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01:11.09fewynhttp://www.fewyn.net/img/2012-08-13_21-10-55.png always fun
01:20.04Freyja[The Wowhead Blog] Pandaren Character Customization and Mogu'shan Vaults Preview - http://www.wowhead.com/news=205484/pandaren-character-customization-and-mogushan-vaults-preview
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07:46.53jaxdahl2http://mop.wowhead.com/mists-of-pandaria-talent-calculator#p! what does the number next to each specialization mean? such as 3 disc, 3 holy, 11 shadow
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07:59.22derpzzzhey
07:59.30derpzzzhttp://mop.wowhead.com/item=86571#.  check this out
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09:55.28StormscapeSome guy was getting his jimmies all rustled in LFR cause according to him I was playing my mage "wrong".
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10:38.45Djones_Stormscape, oh?
10:38.54StormscapeDjones yeah it was pretty funny
10:38.59StormscapeYOUR COMBUSTIONS ARE MESSY
10:39.01Djones_Were you casting scorch?
10:39.03StormscapeYOU'RE REFRESHING LB TOO SOON
10:39.06Djones_Wait, what?
10:39.11StormscapeI was like
10:39.14Stormscapenigga this is an alt
10:39.17Djones_Well, sure.
10:39.28StormscapeAlso
10:39.32Djones_refreshing lb too soon is a little nooby, but yeah, a)LFR b)who cares c)alt
10:39.34StormscapeA. don't expect perfect play in LFR
10:39.57StormscapeDjones it's because I'm used to playing a dot class that doesn't need the dot to expire
10:40.04Djones_yup
10:40.11Djones_I know the feeling, speaking as a current spriest/ex mage.
10:40.21Djones_LB is a clunky poor mechanic compared to spriest dots.
10:40.27StormscapeI was only casting scorch while moving
10:40.30Stormscapecause I'm pro like that
10:40.38Djones_you MOVED?
10:40.40Djones_As a mage?
10:40.42Djones_Doing it wrong.
10:40.49StormscapeYor'sahj
10:40.50Djones_Turret turret PEW PEW PEW
10:40.51Stormscapealso
10:40.52StormscapeHagara
10:40.57Djones_Yeah but no
10:40.58Djones_Pew pew pew
10:41.02NiadythI should have known Djones_ would speak up after seeing a comment on mage playstyles
10:41.03StormscapeINDEED
10:41.03Djones_Shit ice wall? Ice block
10:41.03Stormscapealso
10:41.04Niadyth:p
10:41.05Stormscapewe had a
10:41.06StormscapeFROST MAGE
10:41.08Stormscapein the raid
10:41.09Djones_O.o
10:41.12Djones_Holy fuck a niadyth
10:41.18Stormscapewe couldn't fucking believe it
10:41.19Niadyth*wave*
10:41.19Stormscapea frost mage
10:41.26Djones_Aren't you buried in america somewhere?
10:41.30Djones_Stormscape, lol.
10:41.32NiadythI was, for two months
10:41.51Djones_You look like you had fun, at least.
10:41.51Niadythwiggled my way home, eventually
10:41.55Niadythyeah, was good
10:41.59Niadythhows you nowdays?
10:42.17Stormscapemy mage's gear is getting better
10:42.18Stormscapehttp://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/area-52/Taikatalvi/advanced
10:42.25Stormscapesee anything obviously wrong besides bad enchants?
10:42.28Djones_Right now? Ill, generally okay. Bored by wow/waiting for mists. Enjoying playing the priest a LOT more than the paladin ever was.
10:42.32Djones_looks
10:42.56Niadyththats cool, yeah I heard you were playing a priest from somewhere
10:43.17Djones_Stormscape, i'm not current with stat prio's on mages
10:43.30NiadythI'm taking an early lunchbreak, back in about half an hour
10:43.35Djones_Sure
10:43.57Djones_It looks good but I can only assume your reforging is correct, a little clunky, but correct.
10:44.31Djones_lolpower torrent?
10:44.51Djones_power torrent, professions. But yeah, alt.
10:45.22Djones_Your spec is pretty standard but not so great for dragon soul.
10:45.31Stormscapepower torrent is wtf expensive even on Area 52
10:45.42Stormscapetoo expensive for a 378, basically
10:46.19StormscapeHonestly I wouldn't even know what to change for my spec to make it a better raid spec
10:46.28Djones_You don't need Pyromaniac. What boss in DS has 3 targets?
10:46.31Djones_And you don't need blast wave
10:46.53Stormscapewhat would I replace glyph of blast wave with then?
10:47.11Stormscapeblink?
10:48.11Djones_yeah
10:48.12Djones_blink
10:48.38Stormscapeand I assume all 3 talent points into Clearcasting?
10:48.39Djones_either drop pyromaniac, or if you like that, drop Improved scorch
10:49.03Djones_And yeah.
10:49.08Djones_Tbh
10:49.10Djones_Keep blast wave
10:49.11Stormscapeimproved scorch I've found to be great on Yor'sahj cause baddies gonna bad at mana void
10:49.18Djones_Suppose that's true
10:50.36Djones_oh, you should glyph arcane brilliance
10:50.38Djones_not armors
10:50.58Djones_recasting an armor isn't relevant, reduced mana cost on a buff you might recast in a fight is, very slightly
10:54.52Djones_oh wait
10:54.57Djones_blast wave guarentees you impacts doesn't it now?
10:55.42Stormscapetbh
10:55.44Stormscapeidk
10:55.45StormscapeI think so
10:55.52Djones_Yeah, it might not be 100% but it's really high
10:55.57Djones_keep blastwave just for yor'sahj
10:56.01Stormscapeyeah
10:56.09Djones_Hardcasting pyros as adds spawn, blast wave, combustion, fire blast.
10:56.15StormscapeLOL MAX DEEPS
10:56.18Djones_I do miss my mage.
10:56.28Stormscapeshadow priest max deeps is way easier though
10:56.29Djones_it's still in T11 blues and purples. :p
10:56.32Stormscapemind sear
10:56.33Stormscapewin
10:56.33Djones_Mindsear lol
10:56.40Stormscapeu jelly, fire mages
10:56.52Djones_Mind sear + heroic cunning of the cruel == lololool.
10:57.04Stormscapeeven reg cunning
10:57.07Stormscapeis op as fuck
10:57.11Djones_yarp
10:57.14Stormscapeaffected by shadowform
10:57.16Stormscapeproblem, warlocks
10:57.17Djones_I know right
10:57.36Djones_I need to put on trousers and tidy up, though. Be back in an hour.
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11:21.18raspy2WEEEE
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11:21.54raspystarting up deepholm quests on my drooid
11:22.57Stormscapeworst zone ever
11:23.17raspyi know but i love it
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11:24.43raspyi thought vash was pretty bad
11:28.03StormscapeI fucking loved Vash'jir
11:28.04Stormscapeso much
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11:38.19Niadythyeah, I didn't like Vash'jir
11:38.47NiadythI thought it was a nice move creatively from the level designers, but I didn't really enjoy questing there
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11:44.59g0urraanyone here who can debug minidump files?
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11:52.19raspyhmmm
12:02.46tatehmmm
12:02.48tatehttps://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:ZnnibgZt7_wJ:www.gamescom-cologne.com/media/gamescom/downloads/pdf/presse/Neuheitenliste.pdf+&hl=fi&gl=fi&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEEShGNnklMDT0CZsVGzLq8JQ8KUvY8lk_7FfKJD1_LWgKibmv44r_J7y7-9U-qa1RMQi-kmHahI0KIDX9Qjr-39DxSyQ95ZJp1t4s5aZTlqiVG-cKfPe9Dzhg-fnJSeembTPrj0q3&sig=AHIEtbRGjrCh77fcZdJwdzuYTvDp-jswrg
12:02.54tateoops
12:02.54tatewrong url
12:02.59tatehttp://www.gamescom-cologne.com/media/gamescom/downloads/pdf/presse/Neuheitenliste.pdf
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12:11.07jamphati dont get why bliz needs 8 hours on some servers but not all
12:11.20raspycuz some servers need massive help
12:11.23raspy:>
12:11.48raspyfriggin trade thinks the 5.0 patch is now but its prolly not
12:12.19jamphatthat doesnt happen till arena season is over though
12:12.28jamphatand they havent announced arena season ending
12:12.34raspythough that download for mop thing makes the trolls come out
12:13.06raspyfrigging 21gb downloaded for it sux
12:13.46jamphatwow didnt even notice lol
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13:06.23raspyhmmm
13:06.42raspytrying to figure out what belt from vp's i should get for my priest
13:07.04Niadyththe one thats the most epicest
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13:07.08Niadythand, preferably, cloth
13:07.45eidyiacloth - good call :-P
13:07.52raspyofcouse but i cant decide which
13:09.40g0urrago to askmrrobot
13:09.45g0urrasee which one is the best upgrade
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13:11.26StormscapeVestal's is better, btw
13:11.52raspyweee finally an answer ":>
13:12.12Stormscapeg0urra gave you an answer 2 minutes ago
13:12.36raspyi dont like that page everything i tried from that made me get less dps on my mage
13:13.00g0urrawhat's your char's realm and name?
13:13.26raspyclasi on illidan us
13:13.30raspythats my priest
13:14.59StormscapeAre you PvEing or PvPing?
13:15.05StormscapeI can't tell based on that spec
13:15.15raspypve i dislike pvp much
13:15.31raspystill working on my priest stuff
13:15.39Stormscapedrop psychic horror
13:15.48Stormscapeget 1/3 Inner Sanctum
13:15.49g0urraI clicked optimized depending on your current gear
13:16.02Stormscapeyou don't need glyph of fade it's worthless
13:16.09Stormscapeget glyph of inner fire instead it'll keep you alive better
13:16.27g0urrawith gems, reforging and enchants you got 5 sta, 11 int, 12 sp, 0.02% crit and 0.09% haste
13:16.32g0urrano loss
13:17.21g0urraanyway considering that one of your BiS rings is a zone drop in DS you should get Seal of the Grand Architect
13:18.01g0urrareplace Signet of Suturing with is
13:18.17g0urraoh wait nvm
13:18.25g0urraclicked wrong tab
13:18.54g0urrareplace Signet of the Twilight Prophet with it
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13:20.48raspyugh lfr ultrax is funnny seeing tons die
13:22.41g0urraoh god energy drinks makes you hyper as fuck when you're de-sugar'd
13:22.58g0urraI'm gonna crash so hard tonight
13:23.46eidyiathat's what she said?
13:24.43eidyiai have to confess, i honestly don't know what she said
13:25.05g0urra...
13:27.10eidyiamonks wear leather?
13:28.49g0urrayes
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13:29.40eidyiai need to learn up on these monk guys
13:29.56eidyiahopefully less sneaky than rogues
13:30.19raspylotta herpaderps on lfr this early
13:30.43eidyiai think a pandaren rogue is gonna be funny
13:30.47eidyiabig panda going stealth
13:32.00Niadythwhich begs the question: when are we going to have tauren rogues? :p
13:32.07Niadythi would so play a tauren rogue
13:32.14Niadythi would play the shit out of a tauren rogue
13:32.18g0urrahttp://www.wowpedia.org/Tauren_rogue
13:32.39Niadyth:D
13:32.44eidyialol
13:34.50eidyiai'm not sure what's worse: tauren rogues or warlock in general
13:38.55raspyhehe love lfr when i do it on my mage cuz im always ion top dps in it
13:39.21eidyiawhat spec are you raspy?
13:39.26eidyiai'm spec shopping on my mage
13:49.30Djones_raspy, how do you even die on lfr ultrax?
13:49.43Djones_You never have to press the button.
13:51.06Djones_The only way you can ever die on lfr ultrax is by being top threat when the tanks fail.
13:52.49Eraclitopug for heroic 25 lich king... we're SO going to wipe at defile
13:53.00Djones_like defile is going to happen
13:53.24eidyiafor some reason ppl still can't handle H LK
13:53.32Djones_At least, with the spell range at 40 in cata instead of 30 in wrath, you can dps him through the transition phase
13:53.45Djones_Which means he ought to be at 40% when you run back in anyways
13:53.50raspyyayay will of unbinding from lfr spine
13:54.02Djones_If you want advice on heroic LK, ask niadyth. He knows how to tank that fight very well.
13:54.19raspyi done it easy
13:54.37Djones_Yes, I was mocking Niadyth a little, not suggesting you actually require advice. :P
13:54.57eidyiayou want some fun - go pug H RS
13:55.16raspyhaha had 5 people asking me if i wanted to trade t5he trinket
13:55.18Djones_Eh, shadow cutters don't kill you now.
14:00.39Niadythherp
14:00.51Niadythsee those frozen orbs
14:00.57Niadythcharge them, as often as possible
14:01.15Niadythand those shadow traps? make sure every time one spawns on you, you stand as still as possible
14:01.30Eraclitoyay shadow trap wipe!
14:01.35Eraclitothe first one bounced half of the raid
14:01.42eidyiaand let the magic angel carry away the person
14:01.49eidyiathey get a buff that way
14:03.40NiadythI swear, at least 70% of our wipes on that boss were entirely my fault, eh Djones_ ?
14:04.13Djones_But they were, at the very least, hilarious.
14:04.22Niadythtrue, i wiped us in style
14:04.28Djones_Dat orbcharge
14:04.36Djones_Still my funniest wipe of all time.
14:04.50NiadythWHEEEEEE!!!!
14:07.39Niadythso how is tbat these days?
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14:09.00Djones_A little dead. Dragon soul was a terrible instance. We pushed through to heroic spine but ennui and Diablo 3 killed the last raiding vestiges.
14:09.42Niadythyeah, fair play
14:10.01NiadythI think thats the story across the board tbh, I haven't been online in months and months and now I'm back and the server just seems so dead
14:10.08Niadythtumbleweed in trade, seriously
14:10.12Djones_Yup.
14:10.18raspylol my crappy priest got 7th on dps for the madness fight
14:10.29Niadythgz raspy
14:10.36Djones_erm yes
14:10.38Djones_you're a priest.
14:10.38raspybut its lfr soo doesnt mean much
14:10.43Djones_More importantly
14:10.46Djones_spriest on madness.
14:10.52raspycrazy
14:11.00Djones_I've literally topped the meters on that fight in i346 blues as a priest.
14:11.25raspyits not hard specially on lfr
14:11.26Djones_Just to see if I could because LOLPRIEST. We benefit by far the most from the haste buff, we do MASSIVE damage on shadowfiend burst cycles on cataclysm
14:11.36Djones_And we have the perfect aoe environment for us
14:11.42Djones_Not to mention multidotting if you feel like it.
14:11.50Djones_In my gear I tend towards 90k on that fight in lfr
14:12.09Djones_The fight is almost designed for spriests in mind.
14:13.32Djones_every buff and component of it benefits us more than anyone else. Haste scales better for priests than warlocks, corruptions live long enough for 2 rounds multidotting which is optimal for us and not optimal for warlocks. The aoe is again optimal for us(only hunters can compare) and man. Popping a shadowfiend with T13 on cataclysm and rolling multiple 600k hits for 15seconds every 2 minutes is just ridiculous.
14:13.37raspyhehe now i got tthat trinket on my mage and priest
14:13.52Djones_it is nice
14:13.59raspyyes i know
14:14.11Djones_that and Cunning will by your BiS
14:14.38raspygot the lfr cunning on the priest too but dont use it much
14:14.47Djones_you should
14:14.59Djones_Better than anything short of Normal Will/Heroic trinkets.
14:15.09Djones_Even single target.
14:16.03raspywhats yer priests name
14:16.10Djones_Orienna
14:16.26Djones_EU stormrage
14:17.19Djones_You'll notice i've played it for 1 day since May mind you :P
14:17.54Djones_and i'm reforged for lazy rather than for top dps
14:18.10raspyhehe
14:18.13Djones_NO, wait.
14:18.15Djones_That's for dps
14:18.21Djones_thus the high mastery.
14:18.31Djones_Do you have the 4 set T13 yet?
14:18.56raspynaw just 2
14:19.04raspyi loose rolls on it all the time
14:19.16Djones_Heh, be thankful.
14:19.22raspywhy?
14:19.23Djones_T13 has it's own problems.
14:19.51Djones_I.e completely dismantling the way a priest works in favour of a ridiculous unfun playstyle to eek out the best numbers, one that is only properly supported with a legendary
14:20.24Djones_If you care about min/maxing 4pT13 forces you to both learn and incorporate an entirely different playstyle.
14:22.46Djones_Basically your opener under T13 4 set is as follows. Prepot volcanic, Mind flay x 5 ticks(2 casts interupting second cast after first tick), Berzerking(if you have it)+spellpower on uses, Shadowfiend. Mind spikex2(or maybe 3 depending on crit), Dark evangalism, Macro'd Mind blast with a /cancelaura mindmelt, Mind spike x4-5(depending on haste), Macro'd Mindblast, Mindspikex1(or 2 depending on haste), then apply dots.
14:23.12Djones_And then you do that everytime shadowfiend comes off cooldown, as well, unless there's a burst phaser incoming, in which case you hold onto shadowfiend for that.
14:24.04Djones_and for this you need to have enough gear to reach 30% haste, 17% hit and about 15+ mastery.
14:24.10Djones_and then as much into mastery as possible.
14:24.51raspythink i can consider my priest lol priest
14:24.58Djones_So in conclusion, yes. Be glad you don't have 4pT13 and that will also explain my comment about lazy reforging. If I'm reforged to haste I ignore -all- of that and just dps like normal, and lose about 2-3k dps
14:25.16Djones_But on the other hand I do have 38% haste, which is a LOT.
14:25.46raspybest part of that lfr i did more dps then all the mages
14:25.53Djones_You're a priest.
14:26.03raspyand a crappy one at it too
14:26.06Djones_Most fights priests are better than mages nowadays.
14:26.19Djones_Only -good- fire mages can compete, and then, only sometimes.
14:27.00raspylast couple fire mages i went against in normal ds i been doing more dps then them
14:27.22raspyon my arcane mage
14:27.33Djones_Then they're doing it wrong.
14:27.48raspyyeah what makes it worse they have better gear then my mage
14:28.16Djones_Then they're doing it wrong.
14:28.20raspycyeah
14:28.30Djones_an arcane mage shouldn't be able to -touch- a fire mage. It's always the same.
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14:28.41raspythough i was with one arcane mage that was doing 70k was wierd
14:28.43Djones_Arcane is stronger early expansion, but gets blown away late expansion as the crit rate scales massively.
14:28.52Djones_which fight?
14:28.59raspymadness but still
14:29.04Djones_70k is normal
14:29.12Djones_Burst phases on cataclysm
14:29.26Djones_fire makes up for it by massive combustion on the adds
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15:14.34tatehttp://www.wimp.com/wherecamera/
15:14.37tatemy brain hurts
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15:17.34Niadytheasy
15:17.38Niadythshifted lenses
15:18.46Niadyththe camera is to the side of the mirror, and it's using a lens that shifts to the side, and has a large image circle, so it throws the image that would typically be off the side, into the centre of the recording medium
15:19.27Niadythit's a mind fuck, at first, cause very few photographers and videographers know about them these days, but back in the days of old large format bellows cameras that was common practice
15:21.20Niadythoh wait, it's one continuous shot, holy shit
15:21.24Niadythhow could...
15:21.36Niadythblack magic
15:21.40Niadythyeah, black magic
15:22.43tatehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contact_(film)#Visual_effects
15:23.14tate"It was a blue room. Blue walls, blue roof. It was just blue, blue, blue," Foster explained.
15:29.41jaxdahl2http://mop.wowhead.com/mists-of-pandaria-talent-calculator#p! what does the number next to each specialization mean? such as 3 disc, 3 holy, 11 shadow
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15:36.44jamphatwow
15:36.57jamphatwhat movie is that? ive seen it...
15:37.04tate18:22 < tate> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contact_(film)#Visual_effects
15:37.06jamphatoh, contact
15:37.18fewynthat movie was weird
15:37.40fewyni haven’t watch it since i was a kid tho
15:41.21JunkHeadcontact was awesome
15:44.07fewyn3 more of those stupid pebble dailies
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15:46.20eidyiagood question jaxdahl2 - no idea
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16:08.41Jammerman it's kinda slow to level on beta :o
16:08.56fewynnot really
16:08.59Jammer15 hours already played and haven't gained single level yet
16:09.06fewynyou just don’t have the experience boosts
16:09.10fewynthat you’re used to on live
16:09.13fewynlike from guild perks
16:09.19fewynand no heirlooms work
16:09.29sidjiwhich level?
16:09.42fewyni’m assuming he’s talking 85-90
16:09.46Jammeroh... what happened to guild perks?
16:09.52Jammeryes 85-90
16:09.53fewynyou’re not in a guild?
16:09.56JammerI am
16:10.04fewyndo they have the guild level for it?
16:10.11fewyni know they moved things around
16:10.18Jammer25lvl
16:10.21Jammerwhere do I find guild perks now?
16:10.26fewynnevermind then
16:10.28fewynclick j
16:11.02Jammerye fast track lvl2
16:11.23Jammeryou only get leg heirloom for 85-90 I guess?
16:11.38fewyndid they implement those? i haven’t been following that closely
16:11.57Jammerjust saw mention about them
16:12.08Jammerno idea if they actually in-game
16:15.26Jammerstill ... I think I leveled my main in day or little over during cata to max level
16:15.52Jammerseems considerably slower, not to say it's necessarily bad thing
16:16.07Jammerexcept all those alts... ><
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16:21.14powerageHello, could anyone tell me if DK spell pestilence works behind my back, or in front of me only?
16:23.10Freyja[The Wowhead Blog] PvP Season 11 Ending Soon - http://www.wowhead.com/news=205491/pvp-season-11-ending-soon
16:30.32Jammerpowerage: does it really matter? not like you don't want the target in front of you anyway :p
16:30.43sidjipowerage: to all enemies within 10 yd
16:32.00neutronimityJammer - casters
16:35.35poweragethanks sidji
16:36.30eidyias11 is ending
16:38.01eidyiaso…5.0.4 on 9/3? i can't see them patching before the end of the season
16:38.37fewynthat’s my current standing theory
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16:40.16poweragesidji are you completely sure about this ?....one of developers from wotlk told me than pestilence spreads diseases only to targets front of me , i dont know
16:40.45poweragea need offilike info, for my private server :)
16:40.58fewynPlease be aware that with the release of the pre-expansion 5.0.4 patch on Wednesday, August 29, all raid lockouts will be reset. This means that you will not be able to extend a raid lockout beyond the week before the patch release
16:41.03fewynHTH
16:41.06Freyja[The Wowhead Blog] PvP Season 11 Ending Soon, Patch 5.0.4 on August 28th - http://www.wowhead.com/news=205491/pvp-season-11-ending-soon-patch-5-0-4-on-august-28th
16:42.53Elysa!mop
16:42.55Freyja5 weeks 6 days 16 hours 17 minutes 7 seconds until the release of Mists of Pandaria [25th September, 2012]
16:46.04Freyja[The Wowhead Blog] Patch 5.0.4 on August 28th, PvP Season 11 Ending - http://www.wowhead.com/news=205491/patch-5-0-4-on-august-28th-pvp-season-11-ending
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17:02.54Djones_the thing i've never understood about people playing in private servers(see above)
17:03.19Djones_When you cheat and get whatever gear you like anyways, what the hell does it matter whether moves work as intended? You have god modes.
17:03.47NiadythWhen you cheat, in any way, the game means nothing
17:03.56Niadythit's just a pretty way to waste time
17:03.57Djones_Indeed.
17:04.15Djones_Much like Dungeons of Dredmor
17:04.18Djones_*shakes fist at DoD*
17:05.37Wardin the old KOTOR games I used to cheat
17:05.55Wardjust to play through the various stories options without having to worry about combat or gear
17:08.04eidyiawell fewyn - there we go
17:08.07Djones_Sure, at that point who cares, you've already played it properly and now you're just exploring the content.
17:12.43raspydamn only did 35k in bh on my mage
17:13.08Wardwhen's the pre expansion patch hitting?
17:13.14Warda week from now?
17:13.33Wardoh, 2 weeks it is then
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17:32.01TaurentonyAugust 28th
17:33.02fewynAugust 28th
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18:00.32wokz3nHi seeking a formula for Lifebloom can someone help me?
18:01.15g0urradid you check the site?
18:01.35fewynhttp://www.wowhead.com/spell=33763
18:03.03wokz3nwrong question ... looking for it for WotLK
18:05.09g0urrawhy wotlk?
18:06.52g0urrafor private server?
18:06.56wokz3nye
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18:08.22g0urrain that case we wont' answer you because private servers are not allowed
18:09.03Djones_Again, why?
18:09.06wokz3nok thanks
18:09.07Djones_Why would anyone care?
18:09.15Djones_it's lifebloom yo, it blooms life.
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18:23.30Eraclito[20:15:46] [2. Trade] [Kwaksaus]: LFM Win trades lvl 70 w/me! <- what the...
18:25.23WardI'm looking for a horde on my realm to do killtrading with in Wintergrasp
18:25.40Wardfor the Ranger achievement
18:25.54Wardand Didn Stand a Chance
18:27.21Eraclitoi think will be easier with cross-realm zones
18:32.37Wardnorthrend will be cross realm too?
18:32.50Wardthat'd be awesome, feels so dead now
18:34.48Eraclitoeverything should as far i know, i'm interested in nagrand
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18:39.44Wardohhh
18:39.46WardHalaa
18:39.53WardI better grind my research tokens before MoP then
18:39.58WardI'm done with battle tokens
18:40.05Wardgot 720 of em in 1 night
18:40.17Luckssalguien habla español?
18:40.29Eraclitoi found the mysterious camel figurine before mop :P
18:40.53Eraclitothe uldum's camel will be really hard i guess
18:47.23Eraclitoany suggestion on a place to farm oshu'gun crystal powder?
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18:53.20eidyiaEraclito: http://www.wowhead.com/item=26042
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19:00.01jamphatwill h-dw mount drop rate will be nerfed starting the 28th?
19:00.10jamphatis that win mimirons head drop rate dropped?
19:00.35fewyni think so
19:01.24jamphat:( but whyyyy
19:13.10Djones_Because blizzard are good
19:13.13Djones_Just not all the time
19:13.21Djones_The amount of stupidity with mounts they've done is massive.
19:13.32Djones_They should have ALWAYS been nerfing the drop rates of mounts once it's no longer current content.
19:13.46Djones_Glory mounts should have disappeared, too.
19:14.04fewynnoooo
19:14.08jamphatyeah but 28th isnt mop
19:14.08fewynglory mounts no disappear plox
19:14.17Djones_Glory mounts should have been a reward for people who did content when it was relevnat.
19:14.28Djones_I appreciate there are a few players who don't have the opportunity
19:14.42Djones_But the mere fact that -any- idiot can get -any- glory mount completely depreciates the concept of rewarding current eraiders.
19:14.51eidyiadisagree - glory mounts when the content is new are a prize and are shown off;
19:15.02Djones_Yup, which polarises raiding
19:15.03eidyiaglory mounts for old content is just that - no one is still showing them off anyhow
19:15.07Djones_Because only the very very best guilds can get those
19:15.56Djones_so all those good raiding guilds never had a meaningful glory mount
19:17.27eidyiathey could've gotten them if they wanted
19:17.29eidyiabut they wanted to raid
19:17.30Djones_and they did
19:17.35Djones_but a few weeks before new content
19:17.36Djones_not months
19:17.47Djones_new content, within 2 weeks everyone outgears/gets it. Worthless.
19:18.08eidyiabut then the mount is old news
19:18.34eidyiajust like a legendary mount
19:18.45eidyiacool for the first few people - then no one really cares you got it
19:18.52Djones_Precisely my point.
19:18.58Djones_The mount only counted for a tiny proportion of people
19:19.07eidyiayah - so what's the harm in leaving it in?
19:19.09Djones_wheras if they removed it, MUCH bigger percentage.
19:19.18Djones_because it took away the achievement for all those NOT WORLD CLASS raiding guilds
19:19.33WardI got the purple drake for the seasonal events on the first day it was possible to have it
19:19.46eidyiai think just cause it's going away doesn't mean more people will do it - they're still a pain to get
19:19.48Wardit was cool then, but now after every season event has been nerfed and has come around 4 or 5 times
19:19.51Wardeverybody has it
19:20.23Wardkind of like how I got the Loremaster title a few days after WotlK came out
19:20.39Warddid Kalimdor and EK before it got nerfed to hell
19:20.47Djones_eidyia, the point is plenty of people have glory mounts
19:20.50Wardit´s cool to have it early, you can show it off
19:20.55Wardthen after a while, it becomes common
19:20.57Wardand you move on
19:20.59Djones_but the vast majority of them who got them when it's current didn't get them when it's immediate.
19:21.15Wardso my point is, lets move on from past glory
19:21.17Wardand look forward
19:22.49Jammerit would be cool if they used the new gear scaling to stop people from totally overgearing raid content
19:22.50Djones_if they take glory mounts out, everyone who has one would use it because it would always be relevant.
19:23.13Jammercould force everyone to do the raid with the relevant gear level
19:24.09Jammeryou would still have the 30% debuffs but at least it would not be a total faceroll for every baddie :p
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19:39.06Freyja[The Wowhead Blog] Mists of Pandaria - Build 15972 - Spell Changes and More - http://www.wowhead.com/news=205497/mists-of-pandaria-build-15972-spell-changes-and-more
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19:59.55ccoxlove the counts of items changed: Reagent http://mop.wowhead.com/item=77468 amount increased from 77468 to 1.
20:00.04ccoxReagent http://mop.wowhead.com/item=34054 amount decreasaed from 34054 to 10.
20:00.12ccoxwowhead has a small parsing bug there...
20:01.03Freyja[The Wowhead Blog] Mists of Pandaria - Build 15972 - Spell Changes, Items, Icons, and More - http://www.wowhead.com/news=205497/mists-of-pandaria-build-15972-spell-changes-items-icons-and-more
20:02.24ccoxLooks like the enchanting list and engineering have most of the mistakes
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20:17.16Eraclito[20:39:53] <Ward> I better grind my research tokens before MoP then <- in the last hour and half i gathered 9 of them
20:18.42Eraclitoand i think i just dropped an outland world drop recipe
20:19.34sidjiresearch tokens?
20:19.58Eraclitohalaa, nagrand
20:26.05tate!mop
20:26.05Freyja5 weeks 6 days 12 hours 33 minutes 55 seconds until the release of Mists of Pandaria [25th September, 2012]
20:28.31sidji.oO(1,5h...)
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23:23.47Jammerrng spoiling me for once, 4 tolvir sites in a row!
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23:51.36AmarandeJammer: and now you'll get ten canopic jars in a row on a non-alchemist :)
23:52.14Stormscapewow, there's over 50 people in Dalaran on Area 52
23:52.50StormscapeIt literally looks the same as it did in Wrath on most servers
23:53.58Amarandeisn't Area 52 a top-population server though?
23:54.03StormscapeYeah
23:54.11Stormscapewasn't expecting so many people in Dalaran tbh though
23:55.04Stormscape"LFM 25M Heroic ICC. Shards reserved. Pally looking gear reserved"
23:55.07Stormscapemfw

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