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00:49.37Amarandehmmm
00:49.40Amarandethey really need a fix for this
00:49.56Amarandea couple of quests in Sholazar are trivialised in particular due to this error in design
00:50.55Amarandenamely: quests of the "find the specific otherwise unmarked nodes of type X that contain quest object Y"
00:51.27Amarandesearching is completely shortcircuited by the fact that the tooltip will tell you "Quest Object (0/1)" or the like iff it's a node that's got the quest object
00:51.48Amarandee.g., it's immediately obvious which tracks are Shango's and which mud pile has Vic's keys in it
00:52.09StormscapeIt is?
00:52.14AmarandeStorm: Yup.
00:52.29AmarandeThe mud pile that has Vic's keys in it will have in its tooltip "Vic's Keys (0/1)" while the other ones won't
00:52.38Amarandeand the tracks that are Shango's will show the 0/3 tooltip under it while the ones that are not never do
00:53.10AmarandeI'm not quite sure this is supposed to be intended :S
00:53.42AmarandeI'm also not sure if it's the Blizzard UI or QuestGuru, but I *think* the Blizzard UI indicates if you need a given mob or node for a quest now
00:53.52StormscapeThat's not the default UI
00:53.57Stormscaperecently levelled a character in Northrend
00:53.59Stormscapedidn't see that
00:54.22Amarandeyeah, it's gotta be either QG or possibly TipTac
00:54.44Amarandehowever, you'd think that the nodes would be designed to be random so that you can't have a quest addon show which ones are the right ones :S
01:26.06Freyja[The Wowhead Blog] Mists of Pandaria - Build 15952 - http://www.wowhead.com/news=205325/mists-of-pandaria-build-15952
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01:47.13Amarandeand again I have more health than mana
01:47.17Amarandewhat kind of mage am I anyway heh
01:59.14Amarandehm. does frost mage mastery work on Fingers of Frost charges or only on targets that are genuinely frozen?
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02:42.07Amarande... I feel squishy.
02:42.22AmarandeI suddenly feel very squishy. And I haven't even had my first battle in Vashj'ir yet. :|
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09:01.40tatehttp://kuvauppi.fi/view/output/GUID/4655FC17-2A9D-5109-9B14-7CD258A1BD0B/size/default/wowscrnshot080812120014.jpg
09:01.43tateyyeeess.
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09:58.13tate!mop
09:58.14Freyja6 weeks 5 days 23 hours 1 minute 47 seconds until the release of Mists of Pandaria [25th September, 2012]
10:24.33Wardis there an eta on the prepatch yet?
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10:27.43AmarandeWard: still only speculation
10:27.52Amarandealthough the date usually suggested is 8/28
10:28.24AmarandeDue to the fact that it has to be a Tuesday, and:
10:28.28Amarande* 9/18 is cutting it too close
10:28.50Amarande* 9/11 is considered to have unfortunate implications for the US customer base (although, OTOH, we did get Cataclysm on the anniversary of Pearl Harbour soo ...)
10:29.02Wardpeople are saying they´re planning it to coincide with the GW2 launch
10:29.06Amarande* 9/4 is thought unlikely because it would mean Blizzard working overtime on a holiday weekend to get it launching
10:29.37Amarande* 8/28 is considered the sweet spot because it gives competition with GW2 rather than letting people slip away to Tyria as would be the case with a September patch date
10:29.43Amarande* 8/21 is also speculated, though
10:29.48Amarande* 8/14 is thought to be too soon.
10:31.18WardGW2 comes out around the 21st and 28th
10:32.12AmarandeGW2 is the 28th
10:32.35Wardyeah but it has early access 3 days before
10:32.54Amarandeah, I was going to say, they're giving a full week for pre-orderers this time?
10:33.03raspyweeeez
10:35.48tatei'm planning to buy the expensive digital one today
10:35.50tate<,>
10:37.08Amarandeso I don't really expect the patch this coming Tuesday, but I do expect it one of the next two
10:38.23tateor maybe i'll just buy the regular one and do character transfer <,>
10:40.47raspyhmmm next time i change a char to another servers thats heavy on the other faction i should change factions first then change the server :>
10:41.10tateaye, takes less time
10:41.12tatenoticed few days back
10:41.40raspyoh god trying to do anything ally on illiidan is just freaking nutz
10:41.57tateoutland alliance must be the same
10:42.02tatealso capital city ms-lag is insane
10:42.04AmarandeThey delay and discourage transfers if it places the character on the *smaller* faction on a server? :blink
10:42.15tatemounting up takes about 5 seconds to happen
10:42.21tateout of the capital np
10:42.32raspyoh no took em 10mins flat to switch me over
10:42.45tateö,Ö
10:42.52raspyon sat im changing him to horde and be done with it
10:43.06AmarandeAh, they try not to let you change factions from the smaller to the larger on the server I'm guessing :P
10:43.36Amarandegrumbles about my morning caffeine ... the initial-equip cooldown on [Cup of Hot Green Tea] is far too long :|
10:43.46Grumbles back.
10:43.57raspyi have done 4 server transfers to this server past 3 weeks
10:44.10Amaranderaspy: Blizzard Loves You, I'm sure now ... LOL
10:44.37raspynot counting the other tons of server moves/faction changes i have done
10:45.19raspyits been so long since i have done ally stuff i have gotten lost in stormwind its sad
10:46.07tatei've done shitloads of transfers aswel
10:46.09raspyits sad only real amount of exp to lvl my guy has been in bgs :() and i hate pvp shit
10:46.10tatesigh
10:46.20tateevery time it's a mistake and i leave something behind
10:49.17Amarandeheh, SW isn't so bad once you get used to it, but I usually prefer Ironforge
10:49.47AmarandeAlthough I spent most of the last three weeks mostly based in Darn, but that was because I was being stingy with teleport runes (which I was really already using left and right anyway) and was still working on my wintersabre
10:50.53AmarandeIF is logically designed though, and has certain advantages like the easy to find anvil and forge (of course), the fact that most of the fishing dailies give you a shot at getting Old Ironjaw en passant, and it's also by far the place to grind cooking, too. :)
10:53.38tatehey guys
10:53.43tatewhat if we can breathe in space
10:53.47tatebut they just won't let us escape
10:53.54tateomagaaaad
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10:54.38Amarande(Of course, now that I've touted the usefulness of the IF fishing dailies for getting a shot at Old Ironjaw, I'm going to probably always get either the "build the lure" one or the damned ones that take you all the way out to East Dun Morogh. :P)
10:54.48Amarande(You know, the ones where you DON'T ACTUALLY FISH IN IRONFORGE. :P)
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12:42.15tateokay male or female nelf
12:42.17tatedruid
12:49.54hyljefemale of course
12:50.10hyljeonly they convey the essence of elviness right
12:52.12Stormscape|>making a male NE
12:52.14Stormscape|>any year
12:52.16Stormscape|shiggy diggy
12:54.19hyljeall years
12:54.47eidyiashiggydiggy would be a cool toon name
12:54.57StormscapeIt'd also get you hate from every 4channer
12:55.46eidyiathen i shall pass
12:56.21StormscapeA lot more people from 4chan play WoW than you'd think based on how much /v/ hates WoW
12:56.29hylje/v/ hates all the games
12:56.40hyljethey even hate valve now
12:56.48hyljealthough valve doesn't make games
12:56.54Stormscape...
12:56.57StormscapeI have a question
12:57.00Stormscapeare you retarded?
12:57.05hyljeno, you
12:59.46tate15:52 < Stormscape|> >making a male NE
12:59.50tatebut casting animations ._.
12:59.55tatecyclone cast so cool
12:59.59StormscapeFROSTBOLT
13:00.00tatealso i'm in form 24/7 anyways
13:00.02StormscapeSTRAIGHT FROM THE FOREHEAD
13:00.03tatewhat
13:00.08tate15:42 < tate> druid
13:00.12tateyes frostbolts
13:00.13Stormscapemale casting animations = the worst
13:00.27hylje"the cat"
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13:03.44tatebut gears on nelf male are way better looking than on female .__.
13:03.49tate:I
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13:17.39tateso...
13:17.44tatenow i gotta rename this guy ._.
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13:21.08eidyiarogues wear leather?
13:22.02tateaye
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13:31.27eidyiaany thoughts on what's more exciting to play: lock or priest?
13:31.35StormscapePriest
13:31.55StormscapeBeing a shadow priest is like being a warlock except you don't need to provide healthstones to needy raid members
13:32.26eidyiai want to roll a goblin and am stuck on what class to make them
13:32.35eidyiayou lvl priest in shadow spec?
13:32.49StormscapeI don't think I've ever put more than 1 talent point in Holy
13:32.50Stormscapein 6 years
13:33.01eidyialol
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13:45.41tateholy is damn awesome, like it a lot
13:45.50tatetbh disc is more fun
13:45.55tatealso shadow is fun too.. damn
13:46.11tatealso.. "Queued"
13:46.19tatesigh
13:47.17eidyiai'll give the ol' priest a shot
13:47.25eidyiareally just want a goblin
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14:50.54StormscapeAnybody else noticing Battle.net being a piece of shit today?
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16:02.28aqushey all
16:03.27aqusjust reading up about MoP... druids have a new feature called Symbiosis
16:03.53aqushttp://i.imgur.com/9ORKY.jpg
16:03.53g0urrayou want to know all the effects from it?
16:05.19aqusI know nothing about it - I'm wondering if buttons will appear stating the name of the spell I have acquired
16:05.40g0urrayes, you will get a special symbiosis button
16:06.22aquscool
16:06.27aqusdo you roll a druid?
16:07.14g0urrano, I'll keep playing ret pala
16:07.55aqusright on
16:08.04aqusnew Pandaren benefit: Your love of food allows you to receive double the stats from Well Fed effects
16:08.14aqusnice !
16:08.34aqus+90x2 = +180     MoP will probably go even higher than 90 I'm assuming
16:09.06aqusSeafoof Magnifique always looked lamer to me than Broiled Dragon Feast, anyway. I hope the new raid dish is cooler looking
16:12.25aqusscenarios and challenge modes sound like fun
16:13.02StormscapeI get the feeling the Pandaren racials will get nerfed to shit
16:13.08Stormscapebecause that's too OP for progression raiding
16:13.31aqusseems like it, doesn't it
16:13.55aqusdouble the raid food buff? that's kinda nice... fatass little food devouring pandas !
16:14.02aqus=D
16:14.25aqusI wonder if the Pandas and Bear form druids can procreate
16:14.53aqusor if they'll let me alter my Moonkin appearance for a darned change
16:15.13StormscapeEverybody who's not a paladin, DK, Druid, or Warlock will be pretty much railroaded into being Pandaren if that racial makes it to live unmolested
16:16.12aquswhy, b/c all those classes you mentioned are becoming more powerful as well?
16:17.28StormscapeNo, because those are the only 4 classes that can't be pandaren
16:17.53aqusoh
16:18.07aqusNo P.P. ? Paladin Pandaren :(
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16:23.23crockHi can we talk about emulation here ?
16:25.17crock?
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16:28.57crock??
16:29.17fewynno
16:29.35crockOk, do you know on which chan I could ?
16:30.09fewynnone
16:30.35crocklol ^^ Maybe you're right, maybe you're wrong ^^
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16:53.47NoxyHEY
16:53.48Noxyg0urra
16:53.49Noxyping
16:53.59g0urrahi Noxy
16:54.10Noxyhttp://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e49/NoxiousTwinkie/Baldibar_chibi.jpg
16:54.12NoxyCHIBI
16:55.45NoxyBLAH
16:55.45Noxyk
16:55.52NoxyI'm off to England for two weeeeeeeeekz
16:55.55NoxyBYE GUYS
16:56.09ccoxhave a nice trip
16:56.22g0urraBYE NOXY
16:56.27g0urrahave a nice trip
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17:15.04Freyja[The Wowhead Blog] Mists of Pandaria: August Celestials Preview - http://www.wowhead.com/news=205280/mists-of-pandaria-august-celestials-preview
17:20.03Freyja[The Wowhead Blog] Mists of Pandaria: August Celestials - http://www.wowhead.com/news=205280/mists-of-pandaria-august-celestials
17:21.20fewyn~mop
17:21.23fewyn!mop
17:21.24Freyja6 weeks 5 days 15 hours 38 minutes 37 seconds until the release of Mists of Pandaria [25th September, 2012]
17:25.04Freyja[The Wowhead Blog] Mists of Pandaria: August Celestials Preview - http://www.wowhead.com/news=205280/mists-of-pandaria-august-celestials-preview
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17:46.15rodgepodgekodgeoy, is it just me, or is wow (europe) down?
17:47.31fewynweekly maint
17:47.33fewyni assume
17:48.19g0urraweekly maintenances aren't this late
17:48.32g0urraand no, wow europe isn't down
17:48.41fewyn[13:48:14] SavedInstances: Warning: You've entered about 5 instances recently and are approaching the 5 instance per hour limit for your account. More instances should be available in 2 Min.
17:48.43fewynboo hiss
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18:05.53fewyn[14:05:44] SavedInstances: Warning: You've entered about 5 instances recently and are approaching the 5 instance per hour limit for your account. More instances should be available in 26 Min.
18:05.59fewyntransmog farming sucks
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18:58.41Jammerfewyn: oh, got to get that addon :)
19:11.32sidjihm "Elayne is found only within snowstorms and can usually be found by luring her out with a notepad and promises of Wiki pages."
19:12.44sidji(sourceText of a battle pet)
19:13.49g0urra...what
19:14.31sidjii did some data mining in mop
19:15.12eidyiaare battle pets listed as npcs now in wow?
19:16.13sidji["name"] = "Emerald Turtle", ["creatureID"] = 62994
19:16.32fewynpets have always been npcs
19:16.51sidjibut it's not in petjournal
19:18.03eidyiahm…not asking the question right
19:18.16eidyiathey are tagged with a creatureID then? or have also an NPC ID?
19:18.47fewynnot quite sure i don't do the dev stuff here
19:18.57sidjiNPC ID = creatureID
19:25.39g0urrasidji: you did another datamining? I don't have Elayne in the file you sent me
19:26.07Corgancompanion pets have a spell id and an npc id
19:26.12sidjithis pet has no name
19:26.28CorgancreatureID == NPC ID
19:26.33Corganhttp://mop.wowhead.com/npc=62994
19:27.12Corganand (if applicable) an item id for learning the spell
19:27.33sidjipetID
19:28.51CorganIt's possible that is new, it might be the same as another id though
19:29.24Corganwhat's an example petID?
19:29.57sidji8007245
19:30.42CorganI would imagine that's a unique pet ID to separate your pet from someone else's pet
19:30.58sidjiright
19:31.01eidyiacould be
19:31.04eidyianeed to track lvl and such
19:31.39sidjilast pet had 10xxxxxx
19:32.58eidyiahum.
19:33.05eidyiawhat lvl was this 8007245 pet?
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19:33.40sidjithe petid is unique
19:34.30eidyiasomeone out there probably has pet #1
19:38.28sidji/dump C_PetJournal.GetPetInfoByPetID(1) and take a look
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22:57.48neutronimityI just had an AV where the alliance capped all Horde towers, and all graveyards, and Horde snuck up to their general
22:57.55neutronimity600-200 reinforcements
22:58.33neutronimitySo - cue a battle where it runs to 120-150 reinforcements where the horde is just a huge fucking cluster that wrecks everyone down
22:58.58neutronimityI left at that point then
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