IRC log for #wowhead on 20120804

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00:24.20tatehmm
00:25.00tatehttp://youtu.be/u_8GeEr4bS4
00:25.02tatehttp://youtu.be/P4SD1jcDR6A
00:25.08tatelook the first link, then second one
00:25.14tatesrs internet drama going on
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00:34.24sygnous|mbpris leatherworking still viable?
00:35.02fewynnot if you want to minmax
00:35.07fewynotherwise it really doesn't matter
00:35.30sygnous|mbprjust rolled a new druid... skinning, at least for the money, but was wondering if I should make shit I can wear
00:35.51sygnous|mbpreither that or I'll get go herbalism I guess
00:36.00sygnous|mbprs/get/just/
00:36.20Lugburzcrafting is best to wait to level
00:36.30Lugburzonce youre max level its worthwhile to level crafting profs
00:37.47Lugburzwho was in here like a week ago complaining about how bartenders never know their favorite drink
00:37.58fewynpersonally
00:37.58Lugburzlike I htink it was a 7 n 7 he said nobody knew
00:38.02fewyni pick up herbing and minig
00:38.05fewynfor leveling
00:38.10fewynthen switch profs at cap
00:38.23LugburzI have on my alt herbing and mining
00:38.28tatei'd go skinning/lw as a druid
00:38.30Lugburzand then skinning LW on main
00:38.31tatejust because of mop
00:39.06Lugburzfucking mop
00:39.11LugburzI hate talents so much in it
00:39.13tate:D
00:39.34Lugburzwhat gave blizzard theidea to just not be environmentally friendly and cut down the talent trees T_T
00:39.57tatei kinda like the idea so i don't need to take some shitty talents only so i can take one good one
00:40.16tate"hurrdurr spend 5 more or you can't haz dat"
00:40.19fewyni hate the idea that all my talents are kinda shitty now
00:40.58AmarandeJC and mining are the profession that suffer the most in minmaxing, anyway
00:41.21g0urrafewyn: at least there aren't a few good and few bad, now all of them are bad!
00:41.32Lugburz^^
00:41.34AmarandeMining because the bonus is only of real use in a group setting to a tank (although it's always nice to have when soloing, and AoE heavy battles might make you happy for it too)
00:41.46NoxyG0URRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAWWWWWR
00:41.49Amarandeand JC, well, that depends on how willing you are to spend money on epic gems
00:41.57tate5 more quests and i'm done with tvilight highlands >,>
00:42.03tatebetter get some coffee ->
00:42.07Amarandeas the JC profession bonus is balanced based on blue-grade gems
00:42.55Noxyoh yay lime popsicle
00:44.31sygnous|mbprnetherweave bags are 27g on this realm
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00:45.53Amarandesygnous: that sounds a little high but not outrageously so
00:45.58Amarandehow bad are your 18+ slot bags, and which realm?
00:46.19sygnous|mbprI'm not near the auctioneer... on Arthas
00:47.09Amarandeanything above 16 seems to run into the hundreds of gold at least now
00:47.24Lugburzreall?
00:47.26Lugburzwaht the fuck
00:47.29Lugburzare you for real?
00:47.46sygnous|mbprthe next step up was like 300ish I think
00:47.47fewyntheunderminejournal
00:47.47AmarandeLugburz: on Ysera Alliance, it gets to like 180g for an 18 slot bag and then it's 300+ for a 20 and up from there
00:47.52fewynif you want to know for realz
00:47.58Lugburzthats just retarded
00:48.10AmarandeLugburz: I blame transmog, actually
00:48.11Lugburzso like a primal mooncloth bag is a lot?
00:48.15Lugburzorly?
00:48.18AmarandeYeah
00:48.29Amarandesince all the 18+ slot bags require imbued cloth, which means enchant mats at one stage
00:48.35Lugburzoh ok then
00:48.37Lugburzzsnore
00:48.50Lugburzprimal mooncloth :3
00:48.53Lugburzor imbued netherweave
00:48.54Amarandebut enchant mats are more expensive now because fewer greens are sold at affordable prices due to xmog spiking prices
00:48.57Lugburzcheap cheap cheap
00:49.07Lugburzugh that kind of sucks xmog just jacking prices up
00:49.18Lugburzget journeymans backpack not soulbound 16 slotter
00:49.33Lugburzoh you could also farm magtheridon
00:49.36Amarande16s are not too expensive because that's the highest tier that doesn't require enchant mats in the cloth
00:49.39Lugburzthats fucking genius
00:49.43Lugburzyeah
00:49.52Lugburzon your main just farm maggy
00:50.21StormscapeI just have tons of Mooncloth Bags in my banker toon
00:50.24Stormscapefor if I make an alt
00:50.29Lugburzsweet
00:50.38StormscapeSome of them are 6 years old now LOL
00:50.54LugburzLO nice
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00:54.09StormscapeAmarande wow yeah just checked prices on Stormrage, anything over 20 slots is highway robbery for the prices
00:55.26AmarandeYsera it's something like 10-30g for 16 I think, 180g for 18, 300g for 20, 400g for 22, 3000+ for the top tier (forget if that's 24 or 26 now)
00:56.07AmarandeThat Alliance or Horde prices, btw? (Mine are Alliance prices)
00:56.12raspycrap what heirloom back piece and head piece ya use for druid i totally fergot
00:56.54janea couple thousand gold for 26 slot bags isn't bad
00:57.16Amaranderaspy: what spec?
00:57.37raspycant remember what i set it as ill check
00:57.53tate._.
00:58.24raspylooks like balance for now
01:00.20janehmmm 450g-ish for 22 slot bags
01:00.28StormscapeAmarande, Alliance
01:00.52Stormscape100g for 18 slot, 150g for 20 slot, Highway Robbery for 22 24 and 26
01:00.56Lugburzstill cheaper than haris pilton
01:00.57Lugburzlol
01:01.04janewhat's highway robbery?
01:01.06Lugburzportable hoels etc.
01:01.17Stormscapejane, 600g for 22 slot
01:01.19Stormscape1500g for 24
01:01.20LugburzStormscape: thats retarded
01:01.22Stormscape3000+ for 26
01:01.23Lugburzfuck
01:01.56janemeh i see 26 slot for 2k
01:01.59StormscapeKeep in mind a daily gives 20g though
01:02.27janeit's a little insane illusionary bags are going for 2k
01:02.45raspymeah not for me glad i can make them
01:03.10raspyjust costs me a lil for some chaos orbs
01:03.12Stormscapethe mats are so expensive 3k is usually below cost on my server
01:04.08janei mean, the profit from making a bag isn't much
01:05.03janeanyway that's not that crazy. i happily paid to get all 26 slot bags for my bank
01:07.32raspyhmmm
01:08.17Stormscapeonly place I have 26 slot bags is my main's bags
01:08.23Stormscapenot even her bank has anything over 22 slot
01:08.34janeI'm a hoarder on my main :(
01:09.08janeI have non-soulbound stuff in a guild bank, account bound on an alt, gear in void storage, and only just stuff i need for raiding in my bank..
01:09.15janeand bank, and it's still almost full
01:09.24janeand bag*
01:09.40janemy void storage is full, i have 4 sets of gear..
01:11.09janemy other alts have empty banks with 16 slot bags, and even empty backpack with 16 slot bags..
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01:13.27StormscapeYou never realise how much extra gold being on a low pop server costs you until you leave
01:29.52raspyhmmmm
01:35.36JunkHead[19:53:58] <Stormscape> Amarande wow yeah just checked prices on Stormrage, anything over 20 slots is highway robbery for the prices  <-- I haven't looked in a long time, but SR, while expensive sometimes, does have a pretty stable economy.
01:36.34raspyugh still cant figure out what back piece/head piece for my druid
01:40.26Amarandeyeah, Ysera's seems to be pretty stable too
01:40.30tate8725 >,<
01:40.35Amarandebarring odd anomalies, like that Buzzard Wings were going for 40g per for a while LOL
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01:43.16janeraspy: there's only one choice, which spec are you looking?
01:56.57raspybalance for now
01:57.07raspysorry watching movie too
01:58.45raspybut ill most likly switch to feral once im done
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02:00.44tate8735 .____.
02:01.04tatei'm never gonna reach 9k
02:04.31tate[05:04:22] [R] [85:Sythene:3]: normal ds lolz
02:04.35tate[05:04:26] You have been disconnected from Battle.net.
02:04.40tateokay i'll stay quiet then
02:06.51raspyhehe
02:14.59tate8745..
02:15.00tateslowly
02:16.57raspysigh
02:17.17tatetrying to storm into og once again with 80 man
02:17.23tatewhen tb starts
02:18.52raspyevereytime someone is gonna give me an answer for my question they vanish
02:21.05tate04:57 < raspy> sorry watching movie too
02:21.08tateoh they vanish?
02:21.16raspyyup :>
02:21.33tategoogle should tell the answer within a minute tho
02:22.19tate05:14:15] Lor'themar Theron  dies, honorable kill Rank: Leader (2.79 Honor Points)
02:22.25tatenice.
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02:32.23tateha, for the horde as ally on outland
02:32.31tatewhich is balanced high/full server
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02:55.16StormscapeSeen on Trade: "SELLING REINS OF THE CRIMSON DEATHCHARGER FOR 30K PST"
02:55.17StormscapeSEEMS LEGIT
03:00.12Amarandeheh, a couple guys were hawking vials of the sands for 25k tonight, I filled out cheating reports for them
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03:27.27tateokay this is odd
03:27.33tate3 instant queues in the dungeon as a dps
03:27.41tateone could be random but 3..gosh
03:30.06Lugburzmaybe just your lucky day bro
03:30.25tate4..
03:30.31tateand i missed it
03:30.43tate"nah i won't get instant queues 4 times"
03:31.14Lugburzhaha
03:33.20tateokay let's try again
03:33.57tatelol again
03:33.59tatei was in kitchen
03:34.02tatewireless headshet ftw
03:34.09Lugburzoh my god
03:34.11tatenow something to drink haha ->
03:34.15Lugburzforthe ultimate wow addict
03:34.17Lugburz:p
03:34.23tate4 instant queues yo
03:34.24Lugburzwows
03:34.27Lugburzsiqq
03:35.02tatehttp://www.testfreaks.fi/kuulokkeet-headsetit/creative-sound-blaster-tactic3d-wrath/
03:35.05tatethese
03:35.40Lugburzsweet
03:35.44Lugburzwhats the range on them?
03:36.25tateno idea
03:36.30tatewindows block bluetooth damn well
03:39.22Stormscapehttp://i.imgur.com/AvjSV.jpg
03:39.23Stormscapeohai
03:43.19tateohai
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03:50.16tatehmm
03:50.27tate3,5 bars for therazane exalted <,>
04:05.56StormscapeFUCK
04:05.57StormscapeI just accidentally deleted a character
04:10.43tateaaaaaand how did you manage to do that? ö___ö
04:10.48tatealso gogo restore :D
04:10.51Stormscapemeant to delete level 1
04:10.55Stormscapedeleted my level 64 DK instead
04:11.06tatenice
04:11.24tatejust finished my dungeon
04:11.28tategoing to que... NOW
04:11.42janei hate bad people that keep insisting on being bad ><
04:12.11tate2 more bars for therazane exalted <,>
04:14.12tateque popped!
04:14.16tate3min o,o
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04:39.25tatetherazane..yay..
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05:39.50AcidphaseDoes anyone know any solid facts about people running D3 under wine? I mean there is allot of flamage going on the forums which is expected would be nice to sit down and talk with Blizzard rep to get some facts though, anyone agree?
05:40.11AcidphaseI'm scared to install it under wine after reading half that crap though lol
05:43.07Jammerit seemed to be very small minority that got banned for actual botting instead of wine
05:44.39AcidphaseI'm still skeptic , I mean would suck to install it and get banned especially since I haven't installed it even in windows yet lol
05:45.15AcidphaseThe only reason I say that is because they have a huge warning on the winehq site for D3 that you may get banned
05:46.50AcidphaseSo as a census , most people are saying people that were botting I using wine to whine about their ban then?
05:47.47AcidphaseIf that is true they are a-holes twice over, once for botting and 2 for making Linux gaming more disliked , especially to the people that know nothing about linux and wine
05:50.03AcidphaseWhen I get a chance I'm going to ask woman I've know for close to 12 years now her brother works for Blizzard for quite some time , I'll get the truth that way. I also know he's a Linux user himself because I have played with him in UT years ago when we were both running under linux using loki(that should bring some memories back for some)
05:58.15janeAcidphase: shrug, if theres a platform more hated than mac for gaming, it's linux
05:58.24Acidphaseindeed
05:58.25janeand if its not officially supported i just wouldnt risk it
05:58.41Acidphasewell supported can mean allot of things
05:58.57Acidphaseit just means they wont help you if there is problems
05:59.12Acidphasehence "support"
05:59.22janewell, in the context of "you can do this and we won't ban you but we're not gonna fix problems with the emulation
05:59.40Acidphaseit's not emulation though
05:59.44Acidphaseit's an API
06:00.30janeer, whatever, you know what i mean, sorry i was trying to heal baddies :d
06:01.42Acidphaselol
06:02.05Acidphaseit just doesn't make sense since there is no other problems running other blizzard games
06:02.18Acidphasebtw wine=Wine Is Not an Emulator
06:02.22Acidphase=P
06:02.29janeyes i know that
06:02.39janeim just in a raid that wiped on firelands trash
06:03.19tate8815 !
06:03.23tateit's less than 200 to goal
06:04.29Acidphasejane: that sucks
06:04.39janetank kept pulling trash and only one healer there lol
06:04.46janeand i just relogged...sigh
06:05.20Acidphaseanother mindless tank that thinks there is super heals ... nah.. don't believe it
06:05.21Acidphase=P
06:05.26janelol
06:05.36janeand i was in prot spec when he pulled more trash
06:05.40janeand half of us are heroic ds geared
06:05.41janewe rule <3
06:07.42Acidphaseweee
06:09.14tatejane: us/eu? any room? D:
06:09.22janetate: hmm?
06:09.49tateany spots? eu/us? D:
06:10.00janeoh no sorry :(
06:10.32janei keep forgetting firelands is realid-able
06:10.36janebut it's a guild run
06:12.55janeusually we dont have enough people show up. but we have the reverse of an attendance issue after we hit 8/8h
06:13.57janebeen like 6 weeks of having 35 people show up for 25s, and right now 18 for a 10 man fl run
06:23.41janewhy am i using lay on hands on trash -_-
06:24.07Elysabad healers :>
06:25.07janeim healing :<
06:25.12janethe tank just pulled like 3 packs including the dog
06:25.14janeand we have no shaman
06:25.43janechrist 30k hps
06:26.23Elysabad other healers
06:26.25Elysaalso
06:26.27Elysa<-- shaman
06:26.31Elysa<-- resto shaman
06:26.57janeno tthat we need one but tremor totem would ahve been nice
06:27.01janefucking tanks
06:27.14Elysaoh, starting trash
06:27.19Elysatremor totem is sexy
06:27.19janeyea
06:27.26janeand i seem to be solo healing
06:27.32Elysa:O
06:27.41janelol i cant do this
06:30.13janeaaaand there are people whining that they want BiS gear from fl :/
06:30.56Djones_fuck yeah 391 cloak!
06:31.51janemaybe if these people were top dps i'd care more
06:32.27Djones_Eh, you're 8/8H
06:32.34Djones_People who still care about gear are playing the game wrong.
06:32.55janeexactly
06:32.57Djones_Gear is a vehicle for getting to experience more content, beat harder bosses. If you've beaten the hardest boss and still care about gear, all you play for is gear.
06:33.07Djones_If all you play for is gear, you're playing the game wrong.
06:33.37janewell if they pulled their weight id humor them
06:34.21janesome people are perfectionists
06:34.25Djones_Again. Who cares?
06:34.35janesame reason we're doing this. im a mount whore :P
06:37.38janeI only show up for raiding to get the mount
06:37.50janesome people get reallllllly whiny about gurth or maw not dropping
06:39.38janeoh now they're making bets on if they can kill me or not
06:40.25Djones_Heh
06:40.30Djones_I haven't raided since May
06:41.58janeI shouldnt raid but i like my guild
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08:47.41tate8855 >,>
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08:56.30raspyhmmm
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11:04.43tateIT'S OVER NINE THOUSAND!
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11:13.38tatehttp://i.imgur.com/gNoQw.jpg
11:13.55tatewhy the fuck did imgur rape the quality
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13:56.41StormscapeSo I got my DK restored in 4 hours after accidentally deleting it. They then apologised for taking so long to restore it.
13:56.44Stormscapewhat.
14:00.45hyljethey have an internal SLA
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14:42.09StormscapeI think this sums up blacksmithing perfectly.
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14:42.18Stormscape"While BS might be awesome, the average person would rather take up finger-nail biting because it is BS.
14:42.18Stormscape"
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15:26.09fewyn!mop
15:26.10Freyja7 weeks 2 days 17 hours 33 minutes 52 seconds until the release of Mists of Pandaria [25th September, 2012]
15:26.43Amarandeheh, amazon only just today sent out the pre-order ad for MoP
15:26.49Amarandethat's like picking up last week's newspaper LOL
15:27.13Amarandeany word yet on how soon before MoP the 5.0.4 patch will go live?
15:28.00fewynprobably a month
15:28.11fewynso towars the end of this month
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15:34.46Stormscapehmmm, I need a new name for my mage.
15:34.53StormscapeApparently Vorga is taken on Stormrage :|
15:35.19Amarandeheh, I start thinking I might eventually want a new name for my mage, too, even though that would be a paid name change. I'm glad I don't play on an RP server right now, particularly
15:35.27fewynVendingmachine
15:35.33AmarandeI named my mage Kiruna and then ended up mogging her into all red.
15:35.40AmarandeThose of you who have read the Wheel of Time will know why this doesn't fit.
15:35.46fewynWarlocktears
15:35.58StormscapeBallmer
15:36.03Stormscaperun around shouting Developers
15:37.33Stormscapeoh my god I'm cursed
15:37.36Stormscapecome up with alternate name
15:37.40StormscapeALSO TAKEN BY LEVEL 55 DK
15:38.25fewynthis is why i stopped picking names
15:38.35fewyni just use the random name generator
15:39.34Stormscapeyeah and it gives you winners like
15:39.36Stormscape"Saelleynsia"
15:39.50Stormscapeor "Amavraellis"
15:40.11Stormscapeor "Shaurissaria" aka "I will never get invited to a pug because my name is so long"
15:51.25AmarandeHeh, now you know why I have a sometimes eye-rolling impression at other name-related things too
15:51.46AmarandeLike the tendency of late in fantasy and sci-fi for publishing and production companies to try to claim trademark rights on character names
15:52.19AmarandeLet that go long enough, and eventually all new characters will have to be named something that sounds like it's out of an H.P. Lovecraft novel and may or may not actually be pronounceable by the human mouth :P
15:52.30StormscapeDecided to just name my mage after a Nightwish song
15:52.35StormscapeNamed her Taikatalvi
15:52.43Stormscapesounds quasi-elven... maybe.
15:56.26hyljesince finnish is quasi elven yeah
15:56.27hyljethat's true
15:56.43StormscapeI like how you think
15:56.58hyljerather elvish is quasi finnish
15:57.09hyljetolkien had a hard on for that
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16:13.06Amarandeactually, most notable in terms of Finnish in Middle-Earth is Forochel
16:13.19Amarandewhich really is directly derived from Finnish
16:15.09kullervo... do tell
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18:47.58violentOpinions on whether now is a good time to hop back in or wait for expansion?
18:49.02hyljeend of expansion is nice if you can have your guild run you through all the content in fast forward
18:49.20violentI've actually been out for about a year.  Been researching.
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19:19.20Wardif you just happen to find such a guild
19:19.33Wardmost guilds are dead or busy with alts around now
19:19.36Wardwaiting for expansion
19:19.58WardI think the best time to start playing again is about 3 weeks before the expansion hits, just so you can prep and see a little old content
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19:30.35fewynyay  [Reins of the Twilight Drake]
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21:13.49fewyni never see call to arms when i'm willing to do them :(
21:14.39Wardthat´s because they´re on the weekends
21:15.00fewyni haven't seen it all last week
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21:17.38Wardcall to arms is every friday through monday
21:17.42Wardjust check your ingame calendar
21:17.54fewynnot that call to arms
21:18.03fewynthe dungeon finder one
21:18.06fewynfor healers and tanks
21:18.09Wardoh
21:18.12Wardyeah I never see that either
21:18.20Wardit means your realm is fairly healthy and balanced
21:18.41fewynlfd is region wide
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21:18.58Wardisn´t it servergroup wide?
21:19.21Wardanyway, I don´t think CTA is triggered until the dps queue goes over 20 or 30 mins for the level 85 ones
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21:20.12raspymade like 3k of enchanting matts last night was happy
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21:24.37AmarandeAnd meanwhile some people even think there should be even more exclusives in the CTA goodie bag
21:24.47AmarandeLike ... mounts and minipets that are not available in any other way *eyeroll*
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21:25.19AmarandeThat'd be a bit ... ham-handed, to essentially force every player who cares about mounts and minipets to level a tank or healer to cap
21:25.41Amarande(And, if anything, if you get TOO MANY tanks and healers in the end, that's bad too - after all, you need three DPS per group, you only need one tank and one healer)
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21:26.14AmarandeI'm not exactly sure what triggers CTA, either, since apparently there have been cited cases of CTA actually appearing for DPS
21:26.42Amarande(It's said actually happens more often than people think, too, though the intervals it happens for are always extremely short, and generally are in the wee hours of the morning)
21:26.44raspyin the randoms recently i been outdps'ing the other 2 in the groups doing almost 2x what they are doing its kinda sad
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21:27.21Amaranderaspy: as tank or as the third DPS?
21:27.22raspyacutally had 2 hunters and i was doing double waht they was doing together
21:27.28AmarandeGear can come into play there, too
21:27.48raspyi was doing 25k they was doing 12.5k together
21:27.51Amarandewere the hunters at least doing what you'd expect from a hunter who's only just met the ilvl requirement to queue?
21:28.11raspythey was doing less then lk heroics needed
21:28.27AmarandeRemember that it also tends to try to balance out groups in terms of gearedness, so apparently if you're armed to the teeth, it will tend to put you with worse geared group mates
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21:29.05AmarandeWow, what LK heroics were you doing that needed 6k+ DPS per DPS member? :)
21:29.10AmarandeI don't think even HHoR needed that much
21:29.24raspyi had to check 2 times to see if i was in a heroic and not a normal
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21:30.06WardI have had CTA for DPS a few times
21:30.17raspyi never seen it for dps
21:30.19Wardwhen it was just introduced and right after the DS patch
21:30.28WardI got it on my mage more than once
21:30.48Amaranderaspy: it can be expected to occur at certain times, but rarely if ever for more than a short few minutes at a time, apparently
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21:31.14AmarandeI'd expect it to be most likely probably ... between midnight and 3AM or so
21:31.23raspyim usually waitin for 12-15mins for a dungeon still
21:31.23Amarandewhen raids let out and a lot of tanks and healers are still online from raid
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21:32.07AmarandePerhaps also Tol Barad can be an influence
21:32.16Amarandesince Tol Barad tends to siphon away a lot of DPS not one but two different ways
21:32.32raspylast 2 tol barads i been in had 5 people in them tops
21:32.36Amarandedue to the fact that DPS are always more inclined to PvP than healers or especially tanks
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21:33.03Amarandeand, moreover, when TB goes off is a frequent time for factions to spend even more DPS players on trying to raid the opposite faction cities while their PvP'ers are distracted
21:34.57Amarande(I notice that for instance on Ysera Alliance, it's common when TB is about to start for other people to start forming a raid for Orgrimmar)
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21:35.40AmarandeNot sure what the CTA stats are here though since I don't have an 85 on the server yet
21:37.20AmarandeI do know that it's caused more than a few healers to complain even more loudly, though
21:37.32Amarandeand, that it probably causes some odd dynamics with DPS queues through the week
21:37.57Amarande(as I've sometimes been known to say, it looks like as DPS you shound only bother queuing seriously on Tuesday, Wednesday, or the weekends, and probably should stick to dailies and guild groups on Monday)
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21:38.03WardAmarande, just roll a tank or healer
21:38.06Wardall your issues will be solved
21:38.17Wardthey´re making it so easy to reroll now
21:39.08AmarandeSee, that's the thing though. This is why DPS are kvetching.
21:39.18AmarandePeople enjoy playing their mains, and usually chose their main because it's a class they enjoy playing
21:39.48AmarandeAlthough I do find myself wanting to try a protadin, but I feel like I should finish leveling the mage first so I don't end up like I used to and have 40 bazillion alts that never reach cap
21:40.06Amarandeis prot pally still every bit as fun as it was in BC?
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23:21.05Amarandemithril ore is not a good seller right now
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