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01:02.21 | Swordart | hi |
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01:02.36 | Swordart | anyone wanna play wow start a new toon? |
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01:35.54 | JP__ | hi is anyone here? |
01:36.19 | JP__ | Would anyone like to send me a scroll of ressurection |
01:42.27 | parag0n_ | JP__: US? if so, send me your email |
01:43.33 | JP__ | okay |
01:43.36 | JP__ | Yea US |
01:43.37 | parag0n_ | oh.. or character name and realm too, i guess. |
01:44.04 | JP__ | How would i private chat u |
01:44.13 | JP__ | nvm |
01:44.13 | parag0n_ | /msg parag0n_ <message> |
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04:43.25 | Amarande | ugh |
04:43.41 | Amarande | if you do the hubs in not the right order in blade's edge it gets WAY harder to do the loremaster |
04:44.39 | Amarande | go to Toshley's too soon and you lock yourself out of two quests |
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09:02.13 | Stormscape | I'm so tempted to change my priest name to Fraeulein. |
09:02.26 | Djones_ | Better than Bubbletusks |
09:03.01 | Stormscape | Djones so my priest has over 130k mana now |
09:03.10 | Stormscape | I'm pretty much a 15 man Vanilla raid boss now |
09:03.13 | Djones_ | Not bad |
09:03.14 | Stormscape | 156k HP, 130k mana |
09:03.59 | Djones_ | Shall I look at my priest to make you feel bad? :P |
09:04.19 | Stormscape | Yes |
09:04.22 | Stormscape | Link it, in fact |
09:04.44 | Djones_ | http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/stormrage/Orienna/simple : Last played in May. |
09:06.02 | Djones_ | I -think I was around 180k health, 150k mana raid buffed. |
09:06.11 | Djones_ | and 160-170k mana as disc |
09:06.21 | Stormscape | yeah I'm talking 130k mana with only self-buffs |
09:06.23 | Stormscape | no raid buffs |
09:06.36 | Djones_ | Let me log in |
09:06.46 | Djones_ | Which spec? |
09:06.50 | Stormscape | shadow |
09:07.08 | Djones_ | rofl |
09:07.09 | Stormscape | I see you're alchemist master race |
09:07.18 | Djones_ | My character has been in dragon soul for 4 months |
09:07.26 | Stormscape | LOL |
09:07.43 | Djones_ | Hmm |
09:07.46 | Djones_ | You outgear me then |
09:07.49 | Djones_ | Impressive. |
09:07.59 | Djones_ | With flask and Food from last raid(in may) |
09:08.09 | Djones_ | I have 154k health 130.7k mana self buffed |
09:08.46 | Djones_ | Oh wait |
09:08.46 | Djones_ | HERP |
09:08.48 | Djones_ | LE DERP |
09:08.49 | Djones_ | Sec |
09:09.00 | Djones_ | There we go |
09:09.04 | Djones_ | 147k mana |
09:09.12 | Stormscape | did you forget something |
09:09.17 | Djones_ | heroic int trinkets |
09:09.22 | Stormscape | derp |
09:09.24 | Djones_ | compared to Heroic Spine trinket setup on my armory |
09:09.45 | Stormscape | yeah I was wondering how you only had 123k mana with that much gear |
09:09.46 | Djones_ | 139.6k mana without food and flask |
09:10.03 | sidji | and 100k mana after 5.0 patch |
09:10.04 | Djones_ | Yeah, burst trinkets with on use instead of constant. |
09:10.35 | Stormscape | http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/defias-brotherhood/Vordea/simple WHO ARE YOU DOPPLEGANGER |
09:10.38 | Stormscape | WHY DO YOU HAVE MY NAME |
09:10.43 | Djones_ | Snicker |
09:10.44 | Djones_ | It's a noob |
09:10.46 | Djones_ | that's who |
09:10.53 | Stormscape | They even have my original hair |
09:10.57 | Stormscape | when my priest was first made |
09:11.04 | Djones_ | Snicker |
09:11.13 | Djones_ | Yeah, you don't outgear me then :P |
09:11.17 | Stormscape | Djones they actually had some pretty nice gear in LK |
09:11.20 | Djones_ | My trinkets are fucking awesome btw |
09:11.23 | Stormscape | I remember first seeing that doppleganger |
09:11.24 | Stormscape | in Wrath |
09:11.29 | Djones_ | Heroic Cunning of the cruel. <3 |
09:12.00 | Stormscape | I wish I had that |
09:12.03 | Stormscape | only got regular Cunning |
09:12.06 | Djones_ | inorite? |
09:12.09 | Djones_ | It does SO MUCH damage |
09:12.11 | Djones_ | It's not even funny |
09:12.20 | Stormscape | MULTI-BALL |
09:12.25 | Djones_ | Saddest thing ever? |
09:12.26 | Stormscape | it's just like pew pew pew |
09:12.37 | Djones_ | Dragon soul is the first raid i've not been a hardcore raider or given any shits about loot? |
09:12.43 | Djones_ | Only heroic trinkets or weapon ever received. |
09:12.50 | Stormscape | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/zuluhed/Vordea/advanced here's my fail priest |
09:12.58 | Djones_ | All got within first week of heroic raiding |
09:13.00 | Stormscape | Visage of the Destroyer yeah boi |
09:13.37 | Djones_ | Looking sexy |
09:13.49 | Stormscape | You know, I usually kept the weapons from the last raid I did of each expansion |
09:13.54 | Stormscape | but I'm not going to for Cataclysm |
09:13.54 | Djones_ | Do you have normal will of unbinding? |
09:13.57 | Stormscape | No |
09:13.58 | Stormscape | =( |
09:14.02 | Djones_ | Nod. |
09:14.11 | Djones_ | I usually roll with H:Cunning and N:Will |
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09:14.12 | Stormscape | Like, I still have Heroic Dying Light |
09:14.15 | Stormscape | and Torch of Holy Fire |
09:14.22 | Stormscape | and the lollypop from Hyjal |
09:14.23 | Djones_ | Nod |
09:14.24 | Djones_ | Me too |
09:14.27 | Djones_ | I have 3 410's |
09:14.32 | Djones_ | for weapons |
09:14.37 | Stormscape | but Cataclysm is just so |
09:14.37 | Stormscape | so |
09:14.38 | Stormscape | meh |
09:14.45 | Djones_ | Truest of facts. |
09:15.23 | Stormscape | I went from full blues to all 397 in 2 months |
09:15.28 | Djones_ | Yup |
09:15.29 | Stormscape | it's too easy to gear up |
09:15.37 | Djones_ | And you can go from full blues to full 384/397 in a week |
09:16.01 | Stormscape | yeah my mage is average 377 now after only 2 weeks |
09:16.09 | Stormscape | just need to get lucky in LFR |
09:16.11 | Djones_ | I have the full resources of a guild bank behind me |
09:16.18 | Djones_ | I can make all crafted gear for X class in about 5 minutes |
09:17.25 | Stormscape | I just realised |
09:17.35 | Stormscape | You're on Stormrage-EU, I'm transferring to Stormrage-US for Mists |
09:17.40 | Djones_ | Yes |
09:17.48 | Stormscape | Clearly a sign |
09:17.58 | Djones_ | Clearly |
09:18.08 | Djones_ | so |
09:18.10 | Djones_ | for some reason |
09:18.17 | Djones_ | I have 189 shadow spinels on my character |
09:18.29 | Stormscape | You can't even give those away |
09:18.32 | Djones_ | and 5 sets of gear. |
09:18.33 | Stormscape | Nobody uses them |
09:18.55 | Djones_ | pve dps, pve disc. pvp dps, pvp disc. Heroic spine. |
09:19.08 | Djones_ | I literally have so many spare 410's in slots I already have 410's I have a reforged Heroic spine set. |
09:19.10 | Stormscape | I have one set of gear |
09:19.11 | Stormscape | Shadow |
09:19.24 | Stormscape | I don't even have alternate pieces |
09:19.27 | Stormscape | I feel like a mage |
09:19.30 | Djones_ | Snicker |
09:19.40 | Djones_ | I have SO MUCH GEAR |
09:19.49 | Stormscape | I have all 26 slot bags |
09:19.50 | Djones_ | 5 gloves |
09:19.51 | Stormscape | no extra gear |
09:19.55 | Djones_ | 4 belts |
09:20.16 | Stormscape | Ever since I got 2/3 Inner Sanctum I've wondered why I didn't get this months ago |
09:20.38 | Stormscape | I had Phantasm, then I realised nothing roots you in raids |
09:21.08 | Djones_ | 3 legs, 3 boots, 8 rings, 12 trinkets, 4 wands, 5 offhands, 5 weapons, 4 bracers, 6 chests, 3 cloaks, 6 shoulders, 4 necklaces, 5 helms |
09:21.12 | Djones_ | And yes |
09:21.12 | Stormscape | Also why are your shadow glyphs |
09:21.13 | Stormscape | so weird |
09:21.14 | Djones_ | inner sanctum |
09:21.27 | Djones_ | pvp |
09:21.32 | Djones_ | I suspect |
09:21.36 | Djones_ | probably crossed with heroic spine |
09:21.37 | Stormscape | but you can't cast pain supression |
09:21.38 | Stormscape | as shadow |
09:21.43 | Djones_ | yes |
09:21.46 | Djones_ | but I have 5 specs I use |
09:22.03 | Stormscape | you crazy |
09:22.03 | Djones_ | Pve shadow, pvp shadow, pve disc, pvp disc, Heroic SPINE BULLSHIT |
09:22.09 | Djones_ | Yes, but, it's all simple. |
09:22.15 | Djones_ | I press /spec1-5 |
09:22.25 | Djones_ | And it changes my spec, my glyphs, and all my action buttons |
09:22.34 | Djones_ | Because I have a badass setup |
09:22.52 | Djones_ | That looks like a previously disc pvp spec that I couldn't be arsed to fix for some farming raiding |
09:22.54 | Djones_ | Glyphwise |
09:22.55 | Stormscape | my secondary spec is totally for show |
09:22.56 | Stormscape | I never use it |
09:23.48 | Djones_ | oh btw all that gear? |
09:23.56 | Djones_ | 397 or better, mostly 403 and 410 |
09:24.04 | Djones_ | My solution to the boredom of DS was to grind more gear |
09:24.10 | Djones_ | so I could literally have a gearset for anything |
09:24.28 | Djones_ | I have a bank full of spirit gear I don't use anymore too |
09:24.35 | Djones_ | Because disc doesn't need that much regen anymore |
09:24.35 | Stormscape | Do you have a gearset for soloing old raid bosses |
09:24.42 | Djones_ | Sure |
09:24.48 | Djones_ | It's called whatever the fuck I like because it's a piece of piss. |
09:25.10 | Djones_ | Pull everything |
09:25.10 | Stormscape | You should get another set of gear and use it for trolling pugs |
09:25.11 | Djones_ | Shield |
09:25.13 | Stormscape | gem agility |
09:25.14 | Djones_ | Oh I do |
09:25.19 | Djones_ | It's gemmed spell pen |
09:25.22 | Stormscape | YES |
09:25.23 | Djones_ | and stam |
09:25.36 | Stormscape | weapon enchant is +7 weapon damage |
09:25.37 | Djones_ | with str on use trinkets iirc |
09:25.37 | Stormscape | amirite |
09:25.39 | Djones_ | No |
09:25.41 | Djones_ | Crusader |
09:25.52 | Stormscape | get some resist gems too |
09:25.56 | Djones_ | I put it on after I top lfr meters by 5-10k clear |
09:25.59 | Djones_ | And i'm like, really? |
09:26.02 | Djones_ | And see how many people I beat. |
09:26.07 | Djones_ | I usually end up like 12th. |
09:26.10 | Djones_ | Which is just depressing. |
09:26.14 | Stormscape | LOL |
09:26.24 | Djones_ | it's my old 391 heroic firelands gear |
09:26.27 | Stormscape | I bet you could autoattack with wands |
09:26.30 | Stormscape | and still win the meters |
09:26.34 | Djones_ | And still not come last, yeah. Heh. |
09:26.38 | Djones_ | I do 4.5k with wands |
09:26.42 | Djones_ | I know this because i afk'd on ultraxion |
09:26.46 | Stormscape | beast mode |
09:26.56 | Stormscape | melee autoattack him |
09:26.59 | Djones_ | Right click. Go to the toilet. |
09:27.14 | Djones_ | I have a troll action bar setup too |
09:27.17 | Stormscape | what's funny is literally nobody ever gets kicked |
09:27.18 | Stormscape | from LFR |
09:27.19 | Stormscape | ever |
09:27.22 | Djones_ | if I type /specTroll |
09:27.27 | Djones_ | My bars change to have a single action |
09:27.29 | Djones_ | and that action is flash heal |
09:27.35 | Stormscape | LOL |
09:27.38 | Djones_ | And it's macro'd to heal the target in the raid with the HIGHEST health |
09:27.52 | Djones_ | The aim is to get more overheal than the healers get healing |
09:28.09 | Djones_ | On ultraxion 25man |
09:28.14 | Djones_ | I once got 86% of the healing |
09:28.16 | Djones_ | in lfr |
09:28.21 | Djones_ | I got Red, Then blue |
09:28.35 | Djones_ | I had 4k mana when the blue spawned. :p |
09:28.45 | Djones_ | Everyone else was full because I sniped -everything- |
09:29.08 | Djones_ | Moral of the story? |
09:29.11 | Djones_ | Priest is just easymode |
09:29.18 | Djones_ | I've healed on others, I've dps'd on others |
09:29.23 | Djones_ | Nothing is so hilariously easy |
09:29.47 | Stormscape | http://s3.amazonaws.com/theoatmeal-img/comics/religion/validate.png this one makes me laugh |
09:29.50 | Stormscape | a lot |
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09:36.14 | Djones_ | also |
09:36.18 | Djones_ | Growlithe is badass |
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09:47.35 | Kane_Hart | What is a good RAF leveling aoe spot for low level guys in Wrath zones |
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09:56.11 | Stormscape | Djones, http://howsecureismypassword.net/ is so much fun |
09:57.22 | Stormscape | I like how "nigger" is in the top 1000 for most used passwords. |
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10:50.10 | Djones_ | Stormscape, oh dear |
10:50.13 | Djones_ | tbh |
10:50.19 | Djones_ | I'm not entering my password into a website |
10:50.21 | Djones_ | Just saying |
10:51.24 | Djones_ | I like how the standard 8 digit password takes no time at all |
10:51.51 | Djones_ | my standard one would take 37 years |
10:52.12 | Djones_ | my banking one is LOTS of years |
10:53.09 | Djones_ | and the saddest part os when a bank tells me that my password has to be between 6-20 characters, have letters 1 number and nothing else. |
10:53.27 | Djones_ | Like, that's the least secure TYPE of password there is, because Relevant XKCD |
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10:56.13 | sidji | btw.. http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/4862500_700b.jpg |
10:56.34 | Djones_ | snicker |
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11:22.13 | neutronimity | I break up words with letters. |
11:22.24 | neutronimity | s/letters/numbers |
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11:31.10 | Stormscape | Djones my friend's password for years has been "IFuckedYourCat" |
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13:15.28 | Guest64746 | Guys |
13:16.12 | Guest64746 | any of you in the server Frostmane |
13:16.15 | Guest64746 | ? |
13:18.02 | neutronimity | https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/googlemail/rebrand thoughts? |
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14:25.05 | fewyn | i wonder how hard it will be to solo mc on my priest |
14:25.53 | Stormscape | from what I understand, pretty easy |
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14:27.18 | fewyn | it was kinda annoying on my warlock |
14:27.27 | fewyn | ezpz on all my melee characters |
14:27.31 | fewyn | haven't done my shaman tho |
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15:22.57 | fewyn | these curses in molten core are annoying |
15:25.56 | Noxy | so is your butttttttt |
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15:43.12 | fewyn | i forget do you still have to be attuned to do karazhan? |
15:45.04 | Freyja | [The Wowhead Blog] Mists of Pandaria: PvP Gear Preview - http://www.wowhead.com/news=204968/mists-of-pandaria-pvp-gear-preview |
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15:59.55 | ari5av | fewyn: nope. no more old attunements |
16:05.04 | tate | anyone knows how the botianica stands in the lore? |
16:05.16 | tate | it seems to be full of bots atm, 19 lvl 80 druids in there |
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16:25.05 | Freyja | [The Wowhead Blog] Mists of Pandaria Preview: Scott Mercer and Ion Hazzikostas Interview - http://www.wowhead.com/news=205094/mists-of-pandaria-preview-scott-mercer-and-ion-hazzikostas-interview |
16:27.47 | fewyn | Other than that, Blizzard also confirmed that Brewfest will be delayed so it doesn't make players feel rushed to experience Mists of Pandaria as well as do the holiday. This is welcomed news, as most players complained about it in the weeks prior! |
16:27.49 | fewyn | huzzah |
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16:41.51 | eidyia | morning |
16:41.54 | eidyia | well, afternoon folks |
16:43.59 | sidji | hello |
16:44.37 | eidyia | hey hey - how's pet battle life? |
16:45.01 | eidyia | side note: we getting a pre-5.0 patch tomorrow or what? decent size maintenance window |
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16:45.51 | sidji | 400+ unique pets collected |
16:46.15 | sidji | but some of my pets don't exists in petjournal |
16:46.52 | sidji | like [Red Cricket] |
16:47.11 | eidyia | hm... |
16:47.12 | sidji | 1 epic pet |
16:48.00 | eidyia | i didn't think there were that many pets |
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16:50.39 | fewyn | eidyia: very much doubt 5.0 is tomorrow |
16:50.46 | eidyia | oh - i agree |
16:50.48 | fewyn | 5.0 would coincide with the end of the pvp season |
16:50.54 | eidyia | but i think some pre-patching is gonna happen |
16:50.59 | fewyn | they haven't announced that yet |
16:54.53 | eidyia | interesting note: if you vote to kick in LFG too much, you get a cooldown |
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16:55.38 | eidyia | i had to kick 2 tanks for dc'ing yesterday and got a 4 hour CD on kicking |
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19:19.55 | JunkHead- | http://www.blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=177468 |
19:20.06 | JunkHead- | if anyone is interested. |
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20:04.43 | Kane_Hart | Anyone around? |
20:04.48 | Kane_Hart | This is a dumb dumb question :P |
20:05.00 | Kane_Hart | But if I merge WoW accounts should I get the rewards from the other account too? |
20:05.11 | Kane_Hart | I have 2 old old WoW accounts id like to merge before 5.0 |
20:05.25 | Kane_Hart | never done a merge though not sure what it is exactly |
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20:09.00 | eidyia | what rewards? |
20:10.06 | Kane_Hart | mounts/pets |
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20:47.09 | eidyia | sorry - got distracted by stuff |
20:47.14 | eidyia | um... |
20:47.17 | eidyia | depends how you got them |
20:47.28 | eidyia | i mean, achievement rewards are always character bound |
20:47.33 | eidyia | you're merging accounts - not toons |
20:47.39 | eidyia | so, not sure what issue you'd run into |
20:47.44 | sygnous|mbpr | so, how is monk? I prefer to be a healer, just wondering how mistweaver is... |
21:03.54 | Amarande | I'm thinking of rolling a monk tank when MoP hits |
21:04.27 | Amarande | Not sure on race yet. Probably night elf (which is probably a good combo since night elves have that avoidance racial) |
21:05.06 | Amarande | I am presuming that tanking monks use feral staves and polearms? |
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21:16.59 | fewyn | oh HELLO |
21:17.19 | fewyn | it seems someone i randomly gave a scroll to actually did renew their account |
21:17.35 | fewyn | why didn't blizzard email me about that |
21:18.45 | Amarande | I don't know, I didn't get an email when my sister renewed her account either |
21:19.07 | Amarande | and I had to get the link from here to figure out where to go to get my mount |
21:19.18 | fewyn | i was just about to sor my old account to get the mount |
21:19.21 | fewyn | DON'T NEED TO NOW |
21:20.13 | fewyn | thing is ugly as fuck |
21:21.20 | Amarande | I'm not sure if it ended up in my junk folder or if there just isn't such an email |
21:21.27 | Amarande | since I CAN'T GET MY JUNK FOLDER WITH FIREFOX, stupid dreamhost |
21:21.50 | fewyn | hrm |
21:22.02 | fewyn | so |
21:22.10 | fewyn | 120k for mottled drake |
21:22.37 | fewyn | http://www.wowtcgloot.com/mottled_drake.htm |
21:23.04 | fewyn | not sure if i want to spend that much on it |
21:23.18 | fewyn | http://www.wowhead.com/item=68008#modelviewer:10+0 |
21:23.22 | fewyn | Noxy what do you think |
21:23.33 | Amarande | The thing is that Dreamhost keeps costs down by not spending the money to get the Root CA Cartel to sign an individualised cert for every customer domain |
21:23.46 | Amarande | so they only have the one, self-signed cert that's for *.dreamhost.com |
21:23.46 | Kane_Hart | <eidyia> i mean, achievement rewards are always character bound |
21:23.49 | Kane_Hart | Um? |
21:23.51 | Kane_Hart | 5.0.. |
21:24.12 | Amarande | so if you try to use HTTPS email, when you first get to the webmail site you get one of those stern Firefox "it might be fraud, you should get out of here!" warnings |
21:24.20 | fewyn | mounts and pets (except pvp mounts) will be merged in 5.0 |
21:24.36 | Amarande | So you override that warning, and you can get *most of* your email without trouble then |
21:24.38 | Amarande | *except for* the junk folder |
21:24.40 | Kane_Hart | yeah But I was wondering fewyn battle.net or WoW Account |
21:24.54 | fewyn | i think "wow account" |
21:24.57 | Amarande | if you try to click the junk folder, the mailbox pane instead gives another "get me out of here!" warning, and it DOESN'T let you override that one |
21:25.00 | Kane_Hart | ahh darn hehe |
21:25.24 | fewyn | you can't really test that on the beta |
21:25.29 | Amarande | apparently, this has been reported several weeks ago as a bug in firefox (and it's been a bug for considerably longer than that) |
21:25.33 | fewyn | can't have multiple beta accounts on the same bnet |
21:25.34 | Amarande | but the latest Aurora still has not fixed it |
21:26.14 | Kane_Hart | idk I can't find my MOP game on my account |
21:26.31 | Kane_Hart | beta* |
21:27.08 | Kane_Hart | Got the email but never got the stuff on the acocunt it seems |
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21:28.52 | Kane_Hart | It'll show as the PTR on your account management until you select the account. =) |
21:28.57 | Kane_Hart | thats what support says meh hmm |
21:32.52 | fewyn | yeh |
21:32.55 | fewyn | there we go |
21:33.01 | fewyn | spent ~120,000 gold~ |
21:33.24 | fewyn | actually now that i see it in action |
21:33.27 | fewyn | it doesn't look too bad |
21:33.45 | Kane_Hart | I have a 2nd account same last name grrr why does blizzard not let me do a full merge into 1 game account :( |
21:34.37 | JunkHead- | Blizz let me do that once. |
21:34.48 | JunkHead- | had 2 battle.net accounts. |
21:34.51 | JunkHead- | merged them into 1. |
21:36.13 | Kane_Hart | 2 wow accounts though? |
21:36.19 | Kane_Hart | or 1 wow account |
21:36.40 | JunkHead- | 2 |
21:36.56 | JunkHead- | 1 battle.net account had a few wow accounts on it. |
21:37.03 | JunkHead- | the other just had 1 wow account on it |
21:37.15 | JunkHead- | i merged the 2nd one, into the first one. |
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21:40.46 | sacarasc | Being a lazy person, I was wondering if people here could help me... Which kind of heirloom weapons would be best for a monk? The maces, the swords or the daggers? |
21:43.52 | Kane_Hart | I'm still having that nasty bug in WOW |
21:44.15 | Amarande | sacarasc: I'm not entirely sure there's a particularly good BOA weapon choice for monks |
21:44.17 | Kane_Hart | Moving around in AV and certian places |
21:44.21 | Kane_Hart | causes my game to DC a lot |
21:44.31 | Kane_Hart | but my internet connection is spotless |
21:44.50 | JunkHead- | mine disconnects me at random sometimes when i spin my character around too fast. |
21:44.57 | sacarasc | Amarande: No? Why not? |
21:45.54 | Amarande | well, depends on the role |
21:47.40 | JunkHead- | Monks will focus on fist weapons and staves, but will also be able to use one-handed swords, one-handed maces, one-handed axes, and polearms. |
21:47.52 | Amarande | I think for DPS you can get away with the swords, if you're the healer there's standard healer choices |
21:47.53 | JunkHead- | that doesn't really limit the choicesmuch. |
21:47.58 | Mr_Rabies | i really wish they'd make fist weapons two-handed |
21:48.16 | Amarande | However, if you want to be a Brewmaster, there's really no good choice |
21:48.17 | Mr_Rabies | just make it visually dual-wield |
21:48.29 | JunkHead- | but since they use cloth or leather, you'd want either int gear, or agi gear. |
21:48.30 | Amarande | since there are currently no physical-based BOA staves, nor any BOA polearms |
21:48.42 | Mr_Rabies | that way druids could use them, and even have claw-attachments for feral forms :D |
21:48.56 | JunkHead- | for dps and tanking, I'd probably say the 1h agi maces |
21:49.05 | JunkHead- | for healing, the healing mace |
21:49.18 | Mr_Rabies | monks can use 2h maces and polearms too, right? |
21:49.18 | JunkHead- | oops |
21:49.19 | JunkHead- | or staff |
21:49.20 | Amarande | I'm not especially fond of BOA anyway, really :S |
21:49.58 | JunkHead- | Mr_Rabies polearms yes, 2h mace no |
21:50.04 | JunkHead- | according to wowpedia anyway |
21:50.16 | Mr_Rabies | what the heck |
21:50.31 | Amarande | they're expensive, will become even more so with 5.0.4 (because as with when cata came out, the prices will surely be hiked to be in line with the JP intake we'll get at level 90) |
21:50.35 | Mr_Rabies | so that means every new feral/guardian druid weapon will only be a polearm or staff :< |
21:51.25 | Amarande | yeah, sounds like 2H maces will become the province of warriors or ret pallies |
21:51.38 | Amarande | or ... hmm ... can DKs use 2H maces? I can't remember now |
21:51.48 | Mr_Rabies | yeah |
21:51.50 | JunkHead- | yup |
21:51.52 | Mr_Rabies | axes, maces, swords |
21:52.15 | Amarande | but yeah, I'm presuming 2H maces will now be exclusively balanced for STR based classes |
21:53.12 | Mr_Rabies | :| |
21:53.55 | Mr_Rabies | that locks me out of all my old maces for transmog :< |
21:54.04 | Amarande | Also, they really should give ret pallies a rare, big-ticket group buff like spell haste |
21:54.30 | JunkHead- | didnt ret aura used to give melee haste or something? |
21:54.46 | Amarande | not sure, haven't played pally since BC and then I was prot |
21:55.18 | Amarande | however, it seems like part of the way they're handing out spell haste as it is is as an incentive for people to choose the associated specs at all |
21:55.43 | Amarande | particularly boomkin, as a powerful buff is a bone thrown to a DPS role on a class that's under a lot of pressure to choose the tank or healer role instead, as it has both |
21:55.54 | Mr_Rabies | i hope it's easier to get all the buffs in MoP, i haven't really looked |
21:56.04 | Mr_Rabies | it kinda sucks raiding without prot |
21:56.06 | Mr_Rabies | er |
21:56.12 | Mr_Rabies | shit, the priest buff |
21:56.21 | Mr_Rabies | i haven't had it in months |
21:56.31 | JunkHead- | warriors can give it |
21:57.30 | Mr_Rabies | fort |
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21:57.53 | Mr_Rabies | we don't have any warriors either :/ |
21:58.08 | Amarande | most of the buffs are pretty well represented, except for a couple |
21:58.21 | Mr_Rabies | or any warlocks |
21:59.39 | Amarande | the rarest buffs/debuffs are spell haste and the +% Damage Taken debuffs |
22:00.00 | Amarande | the spell damage debuff is only on two classes (rogue and warlock) and appears to be the only buff or debuff only available to two classes |
22:00.34 | Amarande | the other two (physical damage vulnerability debuff, spell haste buff) are available to three classes only, but only to specific specs in those classes (and in all cases, they are DPS specs for classes that could be a tank or healer or both) |
22:00.34 | Mr_Rabies | we've got a blood dk, prot pally, holy pally, resto shaman, resto druid, feral druid, a fire or arcane mage, a (?) rogue, and two hunters whose specs i'm not entirely sure of |
22:01.12 | Amarande | hmm, let's see what we have there |
22:01.23 | Amarande | stats buff: you have kings |
22:01.37 | Amarande | fort buff: missing, unless hunters with silithid pets can still bring it? |
22:01.53 | Amarande | AP buff: DK and hunter both care able to cover that |
22:02.06 | Mr_Rabies | we have a hunter bring a cloud serpent i think |
22:02.11 | Amarande | SP buff: the mage and shaman are both able to cover that |
22:02.11 | Mr_Rabies | for haste? i forget |
22:02.26 | Amarande | physical haste: the rogue will have that |
22:02.36 | Mr_Rabies | honestly, i think long term buffs should go the way of the dodo |
22:02.46 | Amarande | spell haste: you're missing this (maybe ask the feral druid to go boomkin for mop?) |
22:02.53 | Mr_Rabies | fights are balanced around having them all, so getting rid of them all would be the same |
22:02.57 | Mr_Rabies | i'm the feral |
22:03.02 | Mr_Rabies | and no way in hell am i going boomkin :p |
22:03.19 | sacarasc | Maybe get a shaman to drop a totem? :D |
22:03.28 | Amarande | crit: the feral druid, the hunter, and the mage all have that |
22:03.37 | Amarande | sacarasc: spell haste from shamans is solely from ellie spec in mop |
22:04.00 | Mr_Rabies | what's the spell haste buff called? one of them, at least |
22:04.02 | sacarasc | Then I won't feel bad for being selfish with my enhancement shaman! :D |
22:04.06 | Mr_Rabies | so i can look up equivalents on wowhead |
22:04.18 | Amarande | moonkin aura is one, not sure what the shadow priest and ellie shaman versions are |
22:04.49 | Amarande | there is also a new mastery buff, which is brought by monks in windwalker, but it's also already going to be covered by your pallies and shaman |
22:05.00 | Mr_Rabies | playing how you want isn't selfish, it's a good idea if you want to keep playing :p |
22:05.03 | Amarande | debuffs: rogue and druids have equivalent to sunder even without a warrior |
22:05.18 | Mr_Rabies | if you play a class or spec you don't like, you're probably not gonna last long |
22:05.21 | Amarande | phys damage taken debuff: you're missing that |
22:05.27 | Amarande | magic vulnerability: rogue has this |
22:05.53 | Amarande | debuff to reduce enemy phys damage: all tanks basically have this |
22:05.56 | Mr_Rabies | i'm sure our roster's gonna change for MoP |
22:06.02 | Mr_Rabies | we bring the player, not the class though |
22:06.15 | Amarande | casting speed debuff: DK and rogue have that |
22:06.23 | Amarande | and the rogue and hunter can bring the MS debuff |
22:06.41 | Amarande | so you're right now only missing spell haste buff, fort buff, & phys damage taken debuff, it looks like |
22:06.59 | Mr_Rabies | those are basically what we're missing now |
22:07.00 | Amarande | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/4574894/Mists_of_Pandaria_Buff_and_Debuff_Design-3_8_2012 is the list |
22:09.28 | Amarande | I'm not sure what's becoming of the buffs that exotic pets bring |
22:09.40 | Amarande | I kind of hope they're going away, actually |
22:11.37 | Mr_Rabies | i really wish every buff longer than a few minutes would go away |
22:11.39 | Amarande | I mean, they were nice to have, it also meant hunters became a much more valuable class when they were able to fill in nearly any needed buff or debuff through their pet |
22:11.41 | Amarande | *but* |
22:11.53 | Mr_Rabies | raid-level buff at least |
22:12.00 | Amarande | the trouble was that it came down to that there are 40+ different types of pet, several NEW types of pet were added with cata |
22:12.23 | Mr_Rabies | so can any hunter use exotic pets in MoP? or is it just automatic upon specing as BM? |
22:12.24 | Amarande | and most of those types, including most of the ones that were new in cata, were shoved down to the suck tier |
22:13.52 | Amarande | nope, it's still much the same as now |
22:13.56 | Amarande | you have to be BM and level 69+ |
22:14.12 | Amarande | except now you just get it automatic upon being or becoming BM as long as you're that level, rather than needing to spend a talent on it |
22:15.38 | Amarande | but yeah, the problem with the pet buffs in cata was simple |
22:15.47 | Amarande | they gave pets full, raid-tier quality buffs |
22:16.02 | Mr_Rabies | they're a good idea in theory |
22:16.06 | Amarande | except, that only about six or seven types of pet had that kind of buff, so only six or seven types of pets were of much viability in an instance group |
22:16.19 | Mr_Rabies | yeah |
22:16.21 | Amarande | while the other 30+ types of pets more or less exposed you as a huntard who didn't really know your class |
22:16.44 | Amarande | except perhaps in 25 man, since in 25's you usually have all the buffs represented naturally |
22:17.06 | Mr_Rabies | yeah |
22:17.06 | Mr_Rabies | i still think they're eventually gonna replace both 10 and 25 with 15-man |
22:17.28 | Mr_Rabies | way easier to get all the buffs that way, only one size so you don't wind up with either giant empty rooms or clusterfucks |
22:17.37 | Amarande | I think the logical choice would be to keep 10, reduce 25 to 20 |
22:17.55 | Amarande | with all groups being divisible by all smaller groups, it makes things a lot more flexible from a planning standpoint |
22:18.17 | Amarande | something post-vanilla wow has always had an issue with |
22:18.29 | Amarande | vanilla, you had 10, 20, 40 (well, UBRS was technically 15 max, but wasn't it usually run with 10?) |
22:18.41 | Amarande | in other MMOs say LOTRO, you have 12, 24 |
22:18.49 | Amarande | in post-vanilla wow you have ... 10, 25 |
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22:18.52 | Amarande | doesn't seem as logical |
22:19.19 | Amarande | (as for why LOTRO has 12, 24 - that's because a standard party there is 6 rather than 5) |
22:19.38 | Mr_Rabies | brs was 40-man at one point |
22:19.41 | Amarande | Actually, 6, 12, 24 might not be too bad an idea for WoW, too |
22:20.08 | Mr_Rabies | we used to zerg it down to farm for FR gear and stuff |
22:20.09 | Amarande | Six-man as a normal party size would go a lot further to ease the "too many DPS" pain in LFD than things like CTA and the like do |
22:20.35 | Mr_Rabies | scenarios are gonna help with that to an extent |
22:25.43 | Amarande | hm. |
22:25.56 | Amarande | going to hazard a guess that based on the fact that teleport: theramore is not being removed for mop |
22:26.23 | Amarande | that the Alliance questing in Dustwallow is going to be fixed up with some sort of "Theramore Refugee Camp" or something like that to replace the current fort |
22:27.44 | Amarande | I wonder what they'll do about the boating paths, or if Alliance will just learn to love the Ratchet to Booty Bay boat |
22:27.58 | Amarande | (and presumably the boat that used to go to Theramore will be the path used to go to Pandaria instead?) |
22:28.38 | Amarande | granted, as a mage, I think so far I've taken a boat path exactly once :P |
22:29.03 | Amarande | and that not till it was time to go to Northrend :) |
22:40.05 | Amarande | ... I feel shamed |
22:40.15 | Amarande | someone in trade is asking "does a mage know where to get arcane powder" |
22:40.20 | Amarande | I'm a mage, and I don't even know what arcane powder is |
22:40.27 | Amarande | I'm guessing it's a reagent for something but I'm not sure what :S |
22:40.48 | g0urra | it's used to cast arcane brilliance and mage food table |
22:40.53 | g0urra | oh nvm |
22:41.06 | g0urra | nvm, it is |
22:41.15 | g0urra | being removed in MoP |
22:44.42 | Amarande | actually, it's already not needed for arcane brilliance |
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22:45.03 | Amarande | ah, it's only for the table |
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22:52.52 | Eraclito | [00:51:44] [2. Trade] [Killergirl]: wts [X-51 Nether-Rocket X-TREME]1m <- this player is always selling mounts on ah... many crimson deathchargers, vials of sands, various tcg mounts... i have the feeling not everything is legit |
22:54.51 | Amarande | 1m, as in for gold cap? |
22:55.10 | Amarande | have TCG mounts been showing up as exploited? |
22:56.01 | Eraclito | good question, no idea |
22:56.51 | Amarande | TCG mounts might just mean some 1%er is bored and blowing hundreds of bucks on cards on ebay *shrug* |
22:57.03 | Amarande | possibly the same kind of people who actually spend four thousand bucks on a vanilla CE |
22:57.05 | Mr_Rabies | unlikely, probably a gold seller |
22:57.08 | Mr_Rabies | report them either way |
22:57.10 | Amarande | vials and deathchargers sounds suspicious though |
22:57.11 | Mr_Rabies | let blizzard sort it out |
22:57.54 | Eraclito | i don't want to report someone without knowing if they're legit... i fear for myself if i submit a unneeded report :< i don't want warnings |
22:57.57 | Mr_Rabies | gold sellers have basically left our realm because it's not profitable anymore i guess |
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22:58.01 | Amarande | interestingly, I haven't seen anyone sploiting with the bikes |
22:58.15 | Amarande | which I'm glad of, since I'm an engineer and don't want to have to worry when I put stuff up for sale |
22:58.19 | Mr_Rabies | reporting based on suspicion is okay, Eraclito |
22:58.25 | Mr_Rabies | reporting based on malice isn't, though |
22:58.38 | Amarande | I'm kind of hoping the reason we're getting full length maint this week is partly so they have a chance to scrub for illegit mounts |
22:58.59 | Amarande | since it's not patch day, and the last few weeks have all been only rolling restarts |
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23:01.33 | fewyn | what's the name of that addon that dings when you find a rare |
23:02.31 | JunkHead | npcscan |
23:02.34 | JunkHead | is what i us |
23:02.35 | fewyn | thanks |
23:02.37 | JunkHead | e |
23:02.38 | JunkHead | np |
23:02.43 | fewyn | couldn't remember the name |
23:02.46 | fewyn | for the life of me |
23:03.13 | JunkHead | Finally sold something expensive on the d3 ah |
23:03.26 | JunkHead | made 5 mil |
23:03.33 | fewyn | only 5m? |
23:03.45 | JunkHead | its only the 3rd thing ive sold |
23:03.50 | JunkHead | the other 2 were for 5k |
23:03.59 | JunkHead | none of my stuff seems to sell.:\ |
23:04.12 | fewyn | i haven't touched d3 in a month |
23:04.13 | fewyn | i think |
23:04.30 | JunkHead | im enjoying it for now |
23:04.34 | JunkHead | much needed break from wow |
23:04.56 | JunkHead | working on a couple of gear sets. |
23:05.05 | JunkHead | magic find, and resistance |
23:05.19 | JunkHead | one for farming, one for trying to progress in inferno.:( |
23:05.23 | fewyn | i have a max gold find set |
23:05.24 | JunkHead | act 2 = tuff |
23:05.26 | fewyn | on my dh |
23:05.32 | JunkHead | I'm at... |
23:05.41 | fewyn | they added a game limit |
23:05.41 | JunkHead | 214% with no stacks |
23:05.44 | fewyn | so i no longer farm |
23:05.48 | JunkHead | umm... |
23:05.50 | JunkHead | whats the limit? |
23:05.59 | JunkHead | because i farmed warrior's rest yesterday. |
23:06.01 | fewyn | i create games too fast when doing sarkoth runs |
23:06.13 | fewyn | less than a minute to do that |
23:06.22 | JunkHead | Same for warrior's rest |
23:06.23 | fewyn | make ~500k an hour |
23:06.30 | JunkHead | Sarkoth is... where? |
23:06.36 | Amarande | fewyn: silver dragon? |
23:06.38 | fewyn | like very beginning |
23:06.44 | fewyn | the damp cellar |
23:06.48 | JunkHead | I'll look it up. |
23:06.50 | JunkHead | ok |
23:06.52 | JunkHead | i gotcha |
23:07.07 | fewyn | start at act 1 before the cellar |
23:07.10 | JunkHead | warriors rest takes like, 30 seconds at most. leave, resume |
23:07.14 | fewyn | then back track |
23:07.15 | Amarande | heh, you get a "too many instances" type error if you try to create too many games in D3? |
23:07.16 | fewyn | through the old ruins |
23:07.21 | fewyn | yep |
23:07.23 | JunkHead | I didn't |
23:07.27 | Amarande | now if they could just extend that to D2 |
23:07.31 | JunkHead | I did it like... 50 times in a row |
23:07.41 | Amarande | instead, with D2 they would just hand you a temp ban, which would get longer the more times you tried to log in during it, and which they gave you NO indication of the duration of |
23:08.13 | Amarande | (and to boot, before 1.10 or 1.11, they would try to lie and claim that the realm was down rather than that you were restricted) |
23:08.20 | JunkHead | But my MF suit is 214% with no stacks, 23471 damage, 42031 hp |
23:08.23 | JunkHead | currently. |
23:08.31 | JunkHead | MF was higher but it went down when I added damage |
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23:47.29 | Jammer | JunkHead: what class? |