| 00:03.12 | *** join/#wowhead dogel (~doggle@S01060014d137deed.vc.shawcable.net) |
| 00:04.35 | dogel | licks Stormscape |
| 00:04.42 | Stormscape | huggles dogel |
| 00:07.25 | dogel | so |
| 00:07.34 | dogel | i'm walking home today with my buddy |
| 00:07.35 | Jolt | ou two |
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| 00:08.10 | dogel | he's a little miffed at the presentation we just had, some hipster looking guy talking about drugs |
| 00:08.28 | dogel | yada yada yada, talk talk talk |
| 00:08.45 | dogel | and at some point i jokingly call him a conspiracy theorist |
| 00:08.46 | Jolt | lol |
| 00:08.49 | dogel | and he says |
| 00:08.55 | dogel | yeah man seriously some of this shit isnt real |
| 00:09.00 | dogel | and im like, oh yeah? like what |
| 00:09.06 | dogel | "like cancer, man. that shit ain't real" |
| 00:09.09 | Jolt | haha |
| 00:09.12 | Jolt | really? |
| 00:09.16 | Jolt | what a jerk' |
| 00:09.17 | dogel | yup |
| 00:09.24 | dogel | and i'm just like ... what |
| 00:09.37 | Jolt | i'd walk out of that class room if someone said that |
| 00:09.43 | Stormscape | T_T |
| 00:09.44 | Jolt | and try not to rage hit on him |
| 00:09.46 | dogel | we're on the street walking home |
| 00:09.50 | Jolt | aah |
| 00:10.06 | Stormscape | dogel why is your friend so dumb |
| 00:10.13 | dogel | "yeah man seriously like cancer that aint real like if it existed even if it did the cure exists" |
| 00:10.22 | dogel | "dude you know how cancer works right" |
| 00:10.23 | dogel | "yeah" |
| 00:10.29 | dogel | "how can you believe it doesnt exist" |
| 00:10.35 | tate | :I |
| 00:10.43 | dogel | "it just doesnt man like theres a cute and stuff out there all this cancer stuff is just bullcrap its the government man" |
| 00:10.49 | dogel | cure* |
| 00:11.35 | dogel | "like dude the cure for cancer is this: just make everybody drink a whole bunch of hydrogen peroxide or something" |
| 00:12.16 | dogel | "alright okay say that DOES work, that's gonna affect your body too" |
| 00:12.22 | Stormscape | Does he think the moon is made of cheese too |
| 00:12.26 | dogel | "well no that'll just affect the cancer cells" |
| 00:13.00 | dogel | "dude youre aware that cancer is pretty much cells growing out of control right so if it affects cancer cells in general instead of counteracting its speed of growth youll probably fuck up the body too" |
| 00:13.07 | dogel | "WELL NO MAN" |
| 00:13.16 | dogel | "alright what about chemo" |
| 00:13.19 | dogel | "doesn't work. nope" |
| 00:14.06 | dogel | "why not" |
| 00:14.23 | dogel | "well its just a load of bull you dont have to pump radiation into people" |
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| 00:14.52 | dogel | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:15.05 | dogel | "well dude cancer spreads thats the point what if its all over your body" |
| 00:15.19 | dogel | "WELL NO MAN YOU CAN GET IT OUT WITHOUT GETTING ALL OVER THE BODY" |
| 00:15.37 | dogel | truly a riveting trek home |
| 00:16.17 | Stormscape | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:17.44 | dogel | one day he's gonna be sitting around on street corners yelling things about the apocalypse and the government |
| 00:18.18 | Stormscape | If I think I'm a hypochondriac, does that make me a hypochondriac? |
| 00:20.16 | dogel | oh dude |
| 00:20.19 | dogel | guess what |
| 00:24.05 | Elysa | heh |
| 00:24.28 | Elysa | I'm a chemist at a pharmaceutical company that does most of our work in oncology |
| 00:24.48 | Elysa | I love hearing the conspiracy theorists talk about how there's a cure for cancer and the government is keeping it from us :) |
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| 00:29.43 | Stormscape | dogel, what |
| 00:30.59 | dogel | Elysa, think we'll have a cure for cancer within the next 100 years? |
| 00:31.24 | Elysa | There are many cancers |
| 00:31.28 | dogel | or some specific ones |
| 00:31.29 | dogel | yeah |
| 00:31.30 | Elysa | We'll probably have cures for some |
| 00:31.35 | Elysa | possibly many |
| 00:31.49 | dogel | plot twist: cancer cure causes zombies |
| 00:31.57 | Elysa | :> |
| 00:32.05 | Stormscape | Plot twist: Zombies cure AIDS |
| 00:32.07 | Elysa | what a twist! |
| 00:32.18 | dogel | wat |
| 00:32.25 | dogel | oh also i get to go to st pauls hospital |
| 00:32.31 | Stormscape | =o why |
| 00:32.41 | dogel | and sit around and ask questions about how the people and stuff there do the EEGs |
| 00:32.46 | dogel | ECGs* |
| 00:32.50 | Stormscape | fancy |
| 00:32.55 | dogel | yeah |
| 00:33.09 | Stormscape | so I woke up feeling very |
| 00:33.11 | Stormscape | not well |
| 00:33.18 | dogel | but i gotta a) haul my ass down there in the morning b) miss a day of school and c) i need to buy some dress pants |
| 00:33.31 | dogel | black jeans isn't gonna cut it |
| 00:33.37 | Stormscape | lame |
| 00:33.44 | Stormscape | DOGEL THE FIRST BOOK SHIPPED |
| 00:33.45 | Stormscape | ZOMG |
| 00:33.45 | dogel | well i need dress pants anyway |
| 00:33.52 | Elysa | I had a heart thing last summer |
| 00:33.56 | Elysa | had to go to the hospital |
| 00:34.14 | Stormscape | my heart and lungs are pretty much always being scumbags |
| 00:34.16 | Stormscape | go to the hospital |
| 00:34.19 | Stormscape | NOTHING WRONG U MAD BRO |
| 00:34.29 | Elysa | I had like 4 EKGs done over the course of a week |
| 00:34.35 | Stormscape | me: bertstare.jpg |
| 00:34.49 | Elysa | turned out it was just my heart trolling me |
| 00:34.57 | Elysa | and/or trying to escape from my body |
| 00:34.59 | Stormscape | I know that feel |
| 00:35.11 | Elysa | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pericarditis |
| 00:35.34 | Stormscape | the doctor told me it's a 90% chance that my heartburn is just really bad |
| 00:35.36 | Stormscape | when I get it |
| 00:35.46 | Elysa | the cardiologist went through a list of a ton of things that could cause it |
| 00:35.53 | Elysa | and concluded that he had no idea why it happened |
| 00:36.01 | Elysa | and said it probably wouldn't come back |
| 00:36.07 | Stormscape | I frequently get the feeling like I can't inhale fully |
| 00:36.11 | Stormscape | like something's blocking my lungs |
| 00:36.20 | Stormscape | it's very disconcerting |
| 00:36.21 | Elysa | :( |
| 00:36.52 | Stormscape | only time I can breath really well is in |
| 00:36.55 | Stormscape | crisp cold night air |
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| 00:43.38 | dogel | crazy looking ecgs |
| 00:43.56 | dogel | Stormscape, if its heartburn maybe you should consider getting some antacids |
| 00:44.23 | Stormscape | I'd also love to figure out which food is causing it |
| 00:44.34 | Stormscape | so if it's a simple diet change I can get to never have it again |
| 00:44.39 | dogel | ... anything acidic? lol |
| 00:45.26 | dogel | just cut a shitton of foods and slowly introduce some back |
| 00:45.30 | dogel | yeah its hard but suck it up |
| 00:45.50 | Stormscape | Indeed |
| 00:45.52 | Stormscape | Also |
| 00:45.53 | Stormscape | "I just called the woman who killed my father and forgave her." |
| 00:46.00 | Stormscape | that man is a greater man than most people |
| 00:46.25 | dogel | depends how she killed him |
| 00:46.31 | dogel | easier to forgive if its an accident |
| 00:46.37 | dogel | granted easier to an extent |
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| 00:50.05 | Stormscape | inattentive driving |
| 00:50.12 | Stormscape | hit him while he was riding his bicycle |
| 00:50.35 | tate | so GW2 is only around 30 euros.. |
| 00:50.45 | tate | is it free online pay without subscriptions? |
| 00:50.47 | Stormscape | Also, dogel, what the fuck is wrong with people: http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/t1sm9/whats_the_douchiest_thing_youve_ever_seen_another/c4iv74h |
| 00:52.29 | dogel | http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/im-sick-of-pretending-i-dont-get-art |
| 00:52.44 | dogel | tate, yup |
| 00:53.59 | tate | hmm |
| 00:54.10 | tate | maybe i'll give it a try, it's coming day after my birthday |
| 00:54.19 | tate | present from me to meeee! |
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| 00:55.57 | Stormscape | dogel I feel like the picture I took of me in the horse mask |
| 00:56.00 | Stormscape | could be a reaction face |
| 00:56.18 | tate | http://creepyhorsemask.com/ |
| 00:56.31 | tate | $25, dot bad |
| 00:58.37 | Stormscape | tate: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/35402764/IMG_20120501_121000.jpg |
| 00:58.38 | Stormscape | me in the mask |
| 00:58.54 | tate | still hotter than jessica parker |
| 00:59.30 | Stormscape | Totally |
| 00:59.57 | Stormscape | only problem is it was clearly designed for somebody with a smaller head than me |
| 01:00.00 | Stormscape | it hurts my chin |
| 01:00.29 | tate | like the point would be comfy in that |
| 01:00.48 | Stormscape | it also forces my lips into |
| 01:00.50 | Stormscape | duckface |
| 01:00.54 | Stormscape | thankfully nobody can see that |
| 01:00.55 | tate | aww cute |
| 01:03.07 | tate | http://youtu.be/ffDPTKn7HiY |
| 01:03.23 | tate | first things i remember getting into youtube years back |
| 01:25.18 | dogel | goddamn |
| 01:25.25 | dogel | another fucking CoD game |
| 01:25.31 | dogel | MW3 JUST CAME OUT |
| 01:25.43 | JunkHead | Of course |
| 01:25.46 | JunkHead | CoD 2k13 |
| 01:25.50 | JunkHead | its a yearly series |
| 01:25.55 | dogel | not to mention wtf is the point of the elite thing if you're gonna churn out another rehash |
| 01:25.56 | Stormscape | It's like Madden |
| 01:25.57 | Stormscape | but worse |
| 01:26.07 | dogel | see i thought the point of the elite dlc whatever was to at least |
| 01:26.11 | dogel | extend the life of MW3 |
| 01:26.22 | Stormscape | extend the profit margin of Activision imo |
| 01:26.40 | JunkHead | PC didnt even get Elite |
| 01:28.01 | dogel | really |
| 01:28.07 | JunkHead | really |
| 01:28.25 | JunkHead | and if im not mistaken... |
| 01:28.32 | JunkHead | its just now getting ANY dlc |
| 01:42.29 | tate | i just bought MW3 and it's fuckig terrible |
| 01:42.45 | tate | have played it total 11 hours, bf3... 50? |
| 02:03.05 | tate | i meant to watch "just one youtube vid" |
| 02:03.07 | tate | like 5 hours ago |
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| 02:25.26 | tate | hmmh |
| 02:25.35 | tate | wonder if eu guild of reddit is alive or not.. |
| 02:25.42 | Elysa | still watching youtube videos? |
| 02:25.45 | Elysa | :) |
| 02:25.49 | tate | yea but took a cup of coffee |
| 02:26.11 | tate | great thing about timezones between us and finland generally |
| 02:26.44 | tate | when i have nothing to do at nights, so many video uploads! |
| 02:26.48 | Elysa | :D |
| 02:27.13 | Elysa | it's what, 3:30 there? |
| 02:27.21 | tate | 05:27.. |
| 02:27.27 | Elysa | oh |
| 02:27.28 | tate | close enough |
| 02:27.28 | Elysa | wait |
| 02:27.34 | Elysa | summer time |
| 02:27.42 | tate | it stil wouldn't be 03:30 anyways |
| 02:27.43 | tate | :D |
| 02:27.48 | Elysa | plus I can't add |
| 02:27.55 | tate | Y U GUYS SO SILLY QQ |
| 02:27.58 | Elysa | :< |
| 02:28.05 | tate | oh fuck me |
| 02:28.09 | tate | it's maintenance day |
| 02:28.16 | tate | WHY NOW. |
| 02:28.22 | Elysa | I was even thinking to myself |
| 02:28.27 | Elysa | Finland is +1 |
| 02:28.28 | Elysa | and then |
| 02:28.36 | Elysa | I forgot to add |
| 02:29.11 | Elysa | except it's +2 apparently |
| 02:29.14 | tate | ye |
| 02:29.14 | Elysa | meaning I was doubly wrong |
| 02:29.18 | tate | gmt+2 |
| 02:29.19 | tate | uh |
| 02:29.21 | tate | nvm sec |
| 02:29.26 | tate | utc+2 |
| 02:29.43 | Elysa | not only did I forget to add one |
| 02:29.46 | Elysa | but I was off by one |
| 02:29.48 | tate | what the |
| 02:29.58 | tate | [Global Notice] Hi all. We're experiencing some technical problems and as a side-effect of that services email is currently down. This means that registering nicks and sending password reset emails won't currently work. The mails will be queued up but it's unknown when they'll be delivered. Thank you for using freenode. |
| 02:30.00 | Elysa | it's not even late! |
| 02:30.18 | tate | i don't even know how to register nick <,< |
| 02:30.24 | tate | too much quakenet |
| 02:30.31 | Elysa | um |
| 02:30.33 | Elysa | I did it a while back |
| 02:30.40 | Elysa | nickserv would know how to do it though |
| 02:30.46 | fewyn | http://www.reddit.com/r/TeraOnline/comments/t2jww/hey_terait_zam_network_wowheadtorhead_proudly/ |
| 02:31.02 | tate | so it seems, it's gmt+3 here atm |
| 02:31.24 | Elysa | makes sense |
| 02:31.29 | Elysa | we're -4 right now |
| 02:31.30 | tate | i quess.. |
| 02:31.34 | tate | fuck timezones |
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| 02:31.36 | Elysa | and we're 7 hours apart! |
| 02:31.36 | tate | here and now |
| 02:33.48 | Elysa | hm |
| 02:33.51 | Elysa | I'm looking at a map of the world |
| 02:33.55 | Elysa | with time zones |
| 02:33.58 | tate | oh fuck me |
| 02:34.02 | tate | i meant to go in /r/wow/ |
| 02:34.19 | tate | opened some links |
| 02:34.20 | Elysa | I didn't realize that if you go east from Poland you hop up two hours |
| 02:34.23 | tate | i ended in /r/wtf/ |
| 02:34.24 | tate | not fun |
| 02:34.30 | Djones__ | pssssh |
| 02:34.41 | Djones__ | /wtf is tame compared to some of the subreddits out there. |
| 02:34.49 | tate | tame? |
| 02:34.51 | tate | uh |
| 02:34.53 | tate | yea |
| 02:34.58 | Elysa | oh wait |
| 02:35.00 | tate | i've seen things i would never wanted o |
| 02:35.00 | tate | to |
| 02:35.07 | Elysa | this other map disagrees with the first map I was just looking at |
| 02:35.07 | Elysa | wtf |
| 02:35.28 | tate | http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/ |
| 02:35.30 | tate | that's what i use |
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| 02:35.40 | Elysa | Boston |
| 02:35.44 | Elysa | Tue 10:35 PM |
| 02:35.47 | Elysa | accurate! |
| 02:36.11 | tate | oh lord |
| 02:36.19 | tate | i've been doing something with photoshop while drunk |
| 02:36.25 | tate | not cool tate, not cool.. |
| 02:37.43 | Djones__ | tate |
| 02:37.47 | tate | ye |
| 02:37.49 | Djones__ | go to /r/letsnotmeet |
| 02:38.22 | tate | tl;dr :I |
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| 02:38.59 | Djones__ | It's one of the BEST subreddits |
| 02:39.07 | Djones__ | because it's scary as fuck, but well written, generally. |
| 02:39.46 | Stormscape | dogel |
| 02:39.47 | Stormscape | In 27 pregnancies, the first wife of Feodor Vassilyev of Russia gave birth to 16 pairs of twins, 7 sets of triplets and four sets of quadruplets in the 17th century. |
| 02:39.55 | Stormscape | mfw 27 pregnancies in the 17th century |
| 02:39.56 | Djones__ | Stormscape...ow. |
| 02:39.57 | tate | http://www.twitch.tv/redditmautarin |
| 02:40.03 | tate | us reddit guild doing 10H ds |
| 02:40.31 | tate | terrible quality tho :( |
| 02:40.40 | Lugburz | lol |
| 02:40.49 | Djones__ | Burts of the Lug. |
| 02:43.37 | Lugburz | sups Djones__ |
| 02:43.42 | Lugburz | Im so fucking behind in school |
| 02:43.45 | Lugburz | dont engage me in conversation |
| 02:43.50 | Elysa | I'm done with school! |
| 02:43.55 | Elysa | I picked up my cap and gown this evening |
| 02:43.55 | Djones__ | Anal sex is important to the growing boy |
| 02:43.57 | Djones__ | it's true. |
| 02:43.58 | Lugburz | nobody cares |
| 02:44.09 | Lugburz | Djones__: ya I give it to the girls hard |
| 02:44.17 | Djones__ | That is unfortunate. |
| 02:44.19 | Lugburz | its true its important they know Im the best |
| 02:44.22 | Lugburz | lol |
| 02:45.42 | Djones__ | Have you ever actually lain with a woman burts of the lug, son of Luggy, king of Burtsville? |
| 02:46.06 | Lugburz | Many womanz to come, my loyal master of arms, jones of the D |
| 02:46.23 | Djones__ | Also. |
| 02:46.36 | Djones__ | Explain to me why I'm reading /r/nosleep and /r/letsnotmeet at 3:47am? |
| 02:46.47 | Lugburz | hahaha because they are interesting |
| 02:47.47 | Lugburz | actually I find r/nosleep w/e its not that great if i recall corrctly |
| 02:47.50 | Lugburz | oh well, w/e |
| 02:48.03 | Djones__ | it's like plugging yourself into the SCP site when you need kittens |
| 02:48.21 | fewyn | there are times when you don't need kittens? |
| 02:48.23 | Djones__ | FUCK YEAH there's an /r/scp subreddit. |
| 02:48.47 | Djones__ | fewyn, sometimes you explicitely need kittens, especially if you've been black bug rooming yourself. |
| 02:49.01 | fewyn | i wish i could sleep |
| 02:49.12 | Djones__ | http://images.wikia.com/marveldatabase/images/9/92/X-Men_116_Page_13_Panel_4.jpg : This should help. |
| 02:49.44 | fewyn | for a second i thought that was a green lantern comic |
| 02:49.49 | fewyn | but no it's xmen |
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| 02:50.19 | Lugburz | whats SCP? |
| 02:50.29 | Djones__ | Lugburz, oh lol |
| 02:50.30 | Djones__ | Really? |
| 02:50.36 | Lugburz | 0 idea what it is |
| 02:50.43 | fewyn | that's like asking what colour is the sky |
| 02:50.44 | Djones__ | You are so fucked. |
| 02:50.48 | Djones__ | http://www.scp-wiki.net/ |
| 02:50.49 | fewyn | (i don't really know what scp is) |
| 02:50.51 | Djones__ | ENJOY MY FRIEND. |
| 02:51.07 | Djones__ | Warning : NSFL |
| 02:51.29 | Lugburz | is this a joke? |
| 02:52.49 | Djones__ | I cannot truly answer that. |
| 02:52.52 | Djones__ | read this : http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-993 |
| 02:53.05 | Lugburz | what does SCP stand for? |
| 02:53.06 | Djones__ | then watch this : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWH2g8Ox7bo |
| 02:53.27 | Elysa | special containment procedures |
| 02:53.33 | Djones__ | Secure, contain, protect. |
| 02:53.42 | Lugburz | o ok |
| 02:53.52 | Elysa | or that |
| 02:53.55 | Elysa | I just guessed |
| 02:53.57 | Elysa | never heard of this |
| 02:54.38 | Elysa | it's either a silly joke or some conspiracy theory |
| 02:54.45 | Elysa | I don't feel like reading more of this site to figure out which |
| 02:54.47 | Djones__ | Put simply : This is a collection of clever horror story ideas and hooks |
| 02:54.51 | Lugburz | I feel like its a joke |
| 02:54.53 | Lugburz | yeah |
| 02:54.54 | Djones__ | It's a public wiki of horror |
| 02:54.59 | Lugburz | I get bored/tired/annoyed by these |
| 02:55.05 | Djones__ | It's not REAL, but it's amazing in it's depth, complexity and coolness. |
| 02:55.08 | Elysa | I clicked through like 5 of them and didn't see anything horror-ish |
| 02:55.16 | Elysa | maybe I chose wrong |
| 02:55.32 | Lugburz | Djones__: Im also super tired and annoyed |
| 02:55.41 | Lugburz | very prone to lashing out atm |
| 02:55.58 | Djones__ | Elysa, you need to read on some of the more dangerous scp protocols |
| 02:56.04 | Elysa | heh, apparently there's a bug on the current MoP beta build that causes professions to be unlearned when taking portals |
| 02:56.16 | Djones__ | Keter class |
| 02:56.22 | Elysa | and people are bitching on the beta forums about how they have rare crafting recipes and it's an outrage |
| 02:56.34 | Elysa | because apparently they're going to spend beta crafting these rare things |
| 02:56.45 | Djones__ | People whining about beta |
| 02:56.52 | Djones__ | welcome to always. |
| 02:56.54 | Elysa | :> |
| 02:56.59 | Elysa | Yep |
| 02:57.19 | Elysa | I'm going to log on beta and make some mechanical yetis, brb |
| 02:57.27 | Lugburz | k |
| 02:57.27 | Elysa | oh, and some chimaerok chops |
| 02:58.11 | tate | http://youtu.be/g8gJOCwBuFc |
| 02:58.12 | tate | wtf japan |
| 02:58.14 | tate | sfw D: |
| 02:58.20 | Elysa | haha, you're still on youtube :) |
| 02:58.34 | Lugburz | yaY JAPANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN |
| 02:58.41 | Lugburz | tate y u no liek japan? T_T |
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| 03:06.27 | tate | http://youtu.be/CDl9ZMfj6aE |
| 03:06.34 | tate | Elysa: yeah |
| 03:06.36 | tate | it seems :D |
| 03:07.27 | Stormscape | http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2012/05/01/bc-tsunami-motorcycle-owner.html |
| 03:07.28 | Stormscape | oh shi |
| 03:08.01 | Lugburz | tate you crazy person |
| 03:10.12 | tate | wut |
| 03:10.21 | tate | i didn't say i don't liek japan :C |
| 03:10.39 | tate | also wat, 2 usd for mice feet and around 10 usd to shipping.. no thanks |
| 03:11.07 | Lugburz | love japan bro |
| 03:11.09 | Lugburz | ah yeahhh |
| 03:12.10 | fewyn | brah |
| 03:12.33 | tate | so i'm thinking to buy new mouse.. hm |
| 03:12.52 | fewyn | naga |
| 03:12.53 | tate | something great for MMO:s generall, meaning as usage of lot of macros and stuff.. |
| 03:12.55 | fewyn | naga |
| 03:12.59 | tate | yeah that's what i was thinking too but |
| 03:12.59 | fewyn | naga |
| 03:13.08 | tate | aren't those pretty uh.. toys? D: |
| 03:13.16 | fewyn | i love my naga |
| 03:13.17 | tate | like shitloads of software required |
| 03:13.23 | fewyn | nah |
| 03:13.26 | tate | not just plug'n'play style |
| 03:13.29 | tate | oh well |
| 03:13.32 | tate | let's see the prices.. |
| 03:13.45 | tate | 67 euros, um :I |
| 03:14.02 | fewyn | i totally love my naga |
| 03:14.06 | fewyn | i just got a new one |
| 03:14.07 | tate | yea hthat's what i heard |
| 03:14.11 | tate | that* |
| 03:14.13 | tate | that's |
| 03:14.14 | tate | fdsjisf |
| 03:14.15 | fewyn | my old one kinda got worn down after 2 years |
| 03:14.17 | tate | i hate my keyboard |
| 03:14.20 | tate | getting old |
| 03:14.50 | tate | oh fuck it |
| 03:14.52 | tate | buying one |
| 03:15.01 | Lugburz | tate: mechanical keyboard bro |
| 03:15.03 | Lugburz | duh |
| 03:15.32 | tate | duh, pricey |
| 03:15.34 | tate | pricy |
| 03:15.36 | tate | uh |
| 03:15.39 | tate | how do i say that correctly |
| 03:15.54 | tate | pricey |
| 03:16.30 | fewyn | i like my keyboard |
| 03:16.33 | fewyn | it's pretty awesome |
| 03:17.01 | tate | i used some 10+ yo IBM |
| 03:17.06 | fewyn | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823109230 |
| 03:17.11 | tate | then i got some new flat one |
| 03:17.18 | tate | it was so damn loud |
| 03:19.30 | Lugburz | dude IBM model M |
| 03:19.32 | Lugburz | fuck yeah |
| 03:19.43 | tate | byebye 78€ .. |
| 03:20.36 | tate | but what if i don't like it <<::CC |
| 03:21.49 | tate | same price when bought aat razerzone store..and i could have bought red one qq |
| 03:22.08 | tate | oh, nope. 98 euros by shipping |
| 03:22.23 | tate | NOPE.. 105 to finland, uuugh |
| 03:22.33 | tate | Est. Shipping (Excl. VAT):25.56€ |
| 03:22.37 | tate | Total:105.55€ |
| 03:22.39 | tate | nopenopenope |
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| 03:48.43 | tate | oh wtf |
| 03:48.49 | tate | armory showing future |
| 03:48.53 | tate | Mercader obtained Elementium Gem Cluster. in 57 minutes |
| 03:49.01 | tate | Textual purchased item Time Lord's Robes. 13 minutes ago |
| 03:49.04 | tate | derp.. |
| 03:52.53 | sas148 | Wowhead down to anyone else/ |
| 03:52.55 | sas148 | ? |
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| 03:53.05 | fewyn | checking |
| 03:53.21 | fewyn | just kinda slow |
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| 03:53.33 | sas148 | I keep gettig Connection Reset on both IE and Firefox |
| 03:55.00 | tate | works slowly for me |
| 03:55.34 | Elysa | Yeah, same, working slowly |
| 03:55.36 | sas148 | Everything else seems fine, maybe it's just me then lol |
| 03:55.54 | sas148 | I cleared my Cache and such didn't work though |
| 03:55.59 | sas148 | oooh |
| 03:56.02 | sas148 | it's back now |
| 03:58.48 | fewyn | seems we might be having issues at the data center |
| 03:58.56 | fewyn | we will investigate |
| 04:00.05 | sas148 | I appreciate it :) |
| 04:00.22 | fewyn | site seems fast now tho |
| 04:00.22 | fewyn | so |
| 04:00.23 | fewyn | ~~ |
| 04:00.25 | sas148 | dunno what I'd do without being able to refresh my Wowhead tab :P |
| 04:00.30 | sas148 | Yea, it sped up all of a sudden |
| 04:00.44 | sas148 | It all feels good at the moment. |
| 04:01.59 | sas148 | well now the beta world server is down |
| 04:02.03 | sas148 | what can you do about that one? :P lol |
| 04:02.42 | fewyn | nothing |
| 04:03.00 | Elysa | maybe they're fixing professions |
| 04:03.18 | fewyn | alright... phone charged, tablet charged, and kindle charged |
| 04:03.28 | sas148 | Sleep time? |
| 04:03.34 | fewyn | i tried sleeping |
| 04:03.37 | Elysa | What time is your flight? |
| 04:03.40 | Elysa | 6:30? |
| 04:03.45 | fewyn | something like that |
| 04:03.50 | sas148 | I thought you left earlier? |
| 04:03.51 | fewyn | why are you stalking me! |
| 04:03.52 | sas148 | or did I dream this? |
| 04:03.57 | fewyn | i have to leave the house |
| 04:04.00 | Elysa | I was here when you were talking about it earlier! |
| 04:04.01 | fewyn | at like 3-4 |
| 04:04.01 | Elysa | well |
| 04:04.05 | Elysa | I was on my other alias |
| 04:04.09 | Elysa | while I was at work! |
| 04:04.12 | Elysa | Elysa = Lienne |
| 04:04.15 | fewyn | see |
| 04:04.17 | fewyn | i did not know this |
| 04:04.20 | Elysa | :) |
| 04:04.22 | fewyn | multiple names confuse me |
| 04:04.25 | Elysa | :( |
| 04:04.28 | fewyn | it's hard enough keeping up with rosemount |
| 04:17.33 | tate | :I |
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| 05:36.20 | tate | stupid youtube and producers.. won't give me new videos.. |
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| 06:00.45 | neutronimity | dogel |
| 06:00.52 | dogel | yes |
| 06:04.53 | fewyn | legod |
| 06:04.58 | fewyn | LE GOD |
| 06:05.01 | fewyn | DOGEL IS GOD |
| 06:05.34 | dogel | dances on fewyn |
| 06:08.23 | neutronimity | dogel |
| 06:08.29 | neutronimity | I want you to play tf2 with me |
| 06:08.37 | neutronimity | fewyn with us optionally |
| 06:08.51 | dogel | b-but i'm doing homework ;_; |
| 06:08.56 | neutronimity | :( |
| 06:08.59 | dogel | damnit man i was free the entire afternoon |
| 06:09.01 | fewyn | i'm shufflin |
| 06:09.10 | neutronimity | :( |
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| 06:23.31 | tate | el dog |
| 06:25.22 | fewyn | el doggy |
| 06:26.08 | tate | jajajajaja --Spanish |
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| 06:27.09 | tate | hola |
| 06:27.17 | neutronimity | dogel pls let me know when you're done .__. |
| 06:29.26 | Mr_Rabies | gooby pls |
| 06:29.34 | fewyn | Mr_Rabies go to bed |
| 06:29.50 | Mr_Rabies | i am the unbed |
| 06:31.19 | fewyn | uncebed |
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| 07:02.26 | fewyn | have about 30 more minutes to kill |
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| 07:07.56 | Stormscape | http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/t0ynr/throwaway_time_whats_your_secret_that_could/c4irs6u welp, my night is ruined. |
| 07:08.09 | neutronimity | Stormscape, play tf2 with me |
| 07:08.18 | neutronimity | pocketmedic me <3 |
| 07:10.42 | tate | so my naga is ready to go now.. |
| 07:10.54 | tate | now i gotta wait some random guy to come and give it to me <,> |
| 07:10.59 | tate | and no idea when they do that |
| 07:12.16 | tate | http://goo.gl/Nmf4D |
| 07:12.34 | tate | F5 F5 F5.. |
| 07:16.40 | fewyn | i turned off the a/c and my ceiling fan |
| 07:16.44 | fewyn | it is creepy quiet |
| 07:16.48 | tate | :| |
| 07:16.55 | tate | so |
| 07:17.01 | tate | i bought naga because you saying it's good |
| 07:17.04 | Mr_Rabies | i have mild tinnitus because i run so many fans in my room constantly |
| 07:17.05 | tate | gonna blame u if it's total crap |
| 07:17.16 | fewyn | i love my naga |
| 07:17.19 | Mr_Rabies | when power goes out my ears ring like crazy |
| 07:17.20 | tate | i know |
| 07:17.20 | fewyn | Noxy loves hers too |
| 07:17.25 | Mr_Rabies | naga plz |
| 07:17.25 | tate | oh |
| 07:17.26 | fewyn | we can't both be wrong |
| 07:17.30 | tate | tinnitus is same in english too o,O |
| 07:17.34 | tate | thought it was finnish word for the effect |
| 07:17.43 | tate | latin, oh my. |
| 07:17.54 | stagen | naga? As in the steelseries mouse? |
| 07:17.58 | tate | no |
| 07:17.59 | fewyn | razer |
| 07:18.00 | tate | razer |
| 07:18.03 | Mr_Rabies | "itus" or "itis" is latin for disease, disorder, etc |
| 07:18.06 | Mr_Rabies | as far as i know |
| 07:18.09 | stagen | Ah, right - what I meant. |
| 07:18.16 | tate | steelseries one is crap what i heard |
| 07:18.24 | tate | not working proerly on anything else than wow only |
| 07:18.41 | stagen | Yea, you're right. But I heard the same about the naga. |
| 07:18.49 | fewyn | naga works fine on everything |
| 07:18.58 | fewyn | it uses 1-0 keys |
| 07:19.06 | tate | hmmh.. |
| 07:19.07 | fewyn | 1234567890-= |
| 07:19.20 | fewyn | you can also rebind them in the razer app |
| 07:19.27 | fewyn | to be whatever |
| 07:19.33 | tate | great |
| 07:19.49 | fewyn | i just leave them on defaults because it's easier that way |
| 07:19.50 | tate | gonna bind for F-buttons |
| 07:19.54 | stagen | Neat - that's at least an advantage towards the logitech apps |
| 07:20.10 | stagen | cause they blow bits. >_> |
| 07:21.20 | fewyn | welp i'm going head out, see you all later |
| 07:21.40 | tate | l8r |
| 07:21.56 | stagen | Had one hell of a time configuring my G700 |
| 07:22.00 | stagen | cya |
| 07:25.23 | tate | i'm currently using mx518, working perfect ect |
| 07:25.43 | tate | just cba binding F5-F12 buttons to wow for focus things |
| 07:25.49 | tate | and everything else, i'm out of space |
| 07:29.14 | tate | etc* |
| 07:29.16 | tate | hmh |
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| 07:37.16 | dogel | fewyn, heading out at 3am in the morning |
| 07:37.22 | dogel | CLEARLY HAVING AN AFFAIR |
| 07:44.42 | Stormscape | CLEARLY |
| 07:58.58 | tate | so.. |
| 07:59.05 | tate | i'm trying to change my order to molten edition :c |
| 08:01.07 | tate | no possibru >:( |
| 08:01.29 | tate | sick customer service speed.. |
| 08:01.39 | tate | took like 2 minutes to answer |
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| 09:23.43 | tate | hmm, had 12.9k dps when cata came out |
| 09:23.45 | tate | to dummy |
| 09:23.56 | tate | in pvp spec ._. |
| 09:25.58 | jane | are you complaining? |
| 09:26.11 | tate | i don't know, not sure |
| 09:26.25 | tate | all i remember we did clear 8 bosses on our first raiding week and i was always top dps |
| 09:26.30 | tate | hunters..hah |
| 09:27.00 | jane | I just had a group with 2 hunters that could barely pull that.. |
| 09:27.21 | jane | although to be fair, one of them kept calling people queer/faggot/gay... and the other was apologizing |
| 09:27.29 | tate | :I |
| 09:27.34 | Owkkuri | Had a warlock the other day, around 50k. |
| 09:27.51 | tate | i was lucky and only hunter/agi user in whole raidgroup, it was great to hav eall the agility loots |
| 09:28.06 | tate | got 358 item level on first week after joining with honor gear |
| 09:29.34 | jane | i told the stupid hunter to stop calling me queer and cocksucker because I am queer and a cocksucker. then i cracked up as he asked me if i was the tank (apparently another queer)'s butt buddy. i mean, if you call people queer and then tell me i must be sleeping with a guy, that means i'd be straight, which isn't much of an insult either.. |
| 09:30.08 | jane | I wish I had some smarter trolls in dungeon groups |
| 09:30.28 | tate | where is mah naga x____x |
| 09:30.35 | tate | been 5 hours till i ordered one :< |
| 09:30.40 | tate | can't wait lol |
| 09:30.50 | jane | only 5 hours oh noes :p |
| 09:30.53 | tate | D: |
| 09:31.08 | tate | two and a half men -> |
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| 09:42.19 | fewyn | At zee aeroport |
| 09:42.31 | fewyn | No affair here dogel |
| 09:44.29 | Stormscape | dogel will never believe you |
| 09:47.52 | fewyn | Boarding now baibai |
| 09:53.08 | Owkkuri | jane, I just don't heal assholes like that :D |
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| 15:00.23 | eidyia | hi all |
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| 15:35.23 | tate | http://youtu.be/R2uMG8ESQVY :D |
| 15:36.07 | tate | kullervo: tj65? |
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| 15:46.49 | JunkHead | http://youtu.be/e4OjDcDlzAw |
| 15:49.04 | Lienne | tate |
| 15:49.08 | Lienne | have you gone to bed yet?! |
| 15:49.16 | Lienne | Or have you been on youtube all night? :P |
| 15:55.50 | tate | had 3 hours of sleep, planning to get back soon |
| 15:56.05 | tate | had to wake up to eat and stuff <,< |
| 15:57.08 | Lienne | :) |
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| 16:50.07 | neutronimity_ | I jjust died too |
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| 17:01.10 | Estriatus | oh my god |
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| 17:21.02 | Freyja | [The Wowhead Blog] Mists of Pandaria Zone Preview: Krasarang Wilds and The Veiled Stair - http://www.wowheadnews.com/blog=203072/mists-of-pandaria-zone-preview-krasarang-wilds-and-the-veiled-stair |
| 17:31.26 | tate | http://youtu.be/BuoaGPlWr-4 |
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| 19:06.41 | eidyia | hey all |
| 19:06.46 | eidyia | quiet day in the ol' IRC |
| 19:10.39 | hylje | no kidding |
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| 19:37.12 | tate | oh god |
| 19:37.22 | tate | why did i have article about testicles open in my browser |
| 19:37.29 | hylje | because why not |
| 19:38.17 | Noxy | because internet |
| 19:38.46 | Jolt | T_T |
| 19:39.13 | tate | the day when i install thunderbird and configure it up none sends me a single email |
| 19:39.34 | tate | usually i get hunderds of spam about viagra etc but nooooooo, not today.. |
| 19:40.26 | Lienne | because internet is pretty much the right answer |
| 19:40.59 | tate | fuck internet |
| 19:44.02 | Lienne | youtube is your best friend :) |
| 19:44.58 | Jolt | lol |
| 19:45.06 | Jolt | tate: /pat |
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| 20:12.26 | JunkHead | http://youtu.be/rCJeNaifYOo |
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| 21:12.45 | tate | http://i.imgur.com/rESUW.jpg |
| 21:12.50 | tate | old but still pretty disturbing |
| 21:12.54 | tate | also sfw |
| 21:13.10 | tate | .i think |
| 21:31.09 | neutronimity | OK |
| 21:31.24 | neutronimity | Can a dead priest with spirit of redemption cast mind control? |
| 21:33.16 | JunkHead | i think healing spells only |
| 21:33.25 | JunkHead | possibly only certain ones. not sure |
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| 22:05.57 | Noxy | Yep some healing ones dont work and make me go AARGGHH WASTED SECONDS AARRRRRRGGGHHHHHHHHHHH |
| 22:08.32 | Estriatus | o.o |
| 22:08.46 | neutronimity | Priest was trying to cast Mind Control |
| 22:09.01 | neutronimity | 1/4 into his cast I killed him |
| 22:09.24 | neutronimity | or wtf |
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| 23:27.22 | frangiblehope | hello |
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| 23:31.17 | neutronimity | waves. |
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| 23:35.42 | frangiblehope | I'm new to WoW - is herbalism a good profession for a human hunter? |
| 23:39.33 | Mr_Rabies | Personally, I'd suggest Skinning and Leatherworking for your first character as a hunter, they're both pretty good to help figure out the professions system and you can work on them by killing things, plus you can build gear for yourself |
| 23:39.49 | jane | I don't know about that.. |
| 23:39.59 | frangiblehope | I have a hunter with that - she's level 14 or so. |
| 23:40.04 | jane | lw takes too much leather to level, and gear worth crafting is rare |
| 23:40.11 | Mr_Rabies | they're not GREAT cash-makers, but they're not too bad |
| 23:40.19 | frangiblehope | I like collecting stuff, so I figured herbalism made more sense than mining |
| 23:40.26 | jane | well mining is probably useless altogether |
| 23:40.33 | Mr_Rabies | not true at all |
| 23:40.37 | jane | for a hunter? |
| 23:40.42 | jane | it's good for moneymaking, that's about it |
| 23:40.44 | Mr_Rabies | keep in mind they're just starting out |
| 23:40.51 | jane | I'd go herbing+alch maybe |
| 23:41.02 | jane | make money and get useful stuff |
| 23:41.33 | Mr_Rabies | alchemy is way too complex to figure out and takes up way too much space while you're leveling up, imo |
| 23:41.38 | jane | hmmm |
| 23:41.47 | Mr_Rabies | on your first character at least |
| 23:41.56 | Mr_Rabies | it's kind of a complicated profession |
| 23:41.59 | frangiblehope | I have a hunter with skinning/leatherworking |
| 23:42.01 | jane | well, my first toon was a druid and people told me to roll skinning+lw because of your exact reason... skinning was great, but i never got to use lw until endgame |
| 23:42.17 | frangiblehope | I might be new to WoW but I'm not new to the genre. I'm pretty sure I can figure it out if there are guides of some sort out there. |
| 23:42.21 | jane | it was always cheaper to buy BoEs from the AH |
| 23:42.24 | Mr_Rabies | ah okay |
| 23:42.39 | Mr_Rabies | there's pretty much no way to go wrong with any profession, except maaaaybe inscription |
| 23:42.57 | Mr_Rabies | all of them have their strengths and weaknesses, and you can always unlearn them |
| 23:43.09 | jane | just don't go mining |
| 23:43.10 | jane | <.< |
| 23:43.15 | Mr_Rabies | i tend to get two gathering professions on my alts while leveling |
| 23:43.22 | jane | new guild wants new main, and my new main has herbing and mining... |
| 23:43.24 | Mr_Rabies | and then drop one for a crafting one once i'm at max level |
| 23:43.33 | jane | I'm going to have to drop mining for something else |
| 23:44.13 | frangiblehope | oh, so I could do skinning/herbalism now for cash and drop one later? |
| 23:44.18 | jane | oh yeah, totally |
| 23:44.42 | jane | but especially if it's something like lw/tailoring/bs just be ready to drop a lot of gold to level |
| 23:44.48 | jane | or to farm the mats on your own |
| 23:45.04 | frangiblehope | Right! |
| 23:45.11 | frangiblehope | thanks - I appreciate it |
| 23:45.24 | jane | like I just leveled JC and some of the outland/wrath stuff was like impossible to find |
| 23:46.57 | jane | oh, and the 2x gathering profs means more xp |
| 23:47.45 | Mr_Rabies | lower level materials tend to go for a decent amount on the auction house |
| 23:47.50 | Mr_Rabies | because there's not a large supply of it |
| 23:47.56 | Mr_Rabies | you get less herbs per picking, etc |
| 23:48.09 | Mr_Rabies | less people at that level, higher demand to level, etc |
| 23:48.30 | jane | Mr_Rabies: fwiw i leveled alchemy on two toons pretty recently, the whole leveling thing is straightforward. no more convoluted path to get a specialization or anything |
| 23:48.34 | frangiblehope | Huh, good to know |
| 23:49.10 | jane | i did in under 4 hours (includes time to gather herbs not on AH) sitting in org |
| 23:49.11 | Mr_Rabies | it's not complicated, but you do have to stop what you're doing and work on it a lot more than other professions, especially if you're new |
| 23:49.36 | jane | well, lw is pretty much the same.. |
| 23:49.37 | Mr_Rabies | the only ones more complex are probably inscription or engineering |
| 23:49.43 | jane | engineering is rough, for sure |
| 23:49.56 | jane | lw is not something you can level by just skinning mobs you run across :( |
| 23:49.58 | Mr_Rabies | lw is mostly stuff you grab from the field and you can build stuff pretty easily in the field |
| 23:50.19 | jane | i farmed so much leather to do it cause back then i didnt have the gold to buy it straight (especially the later level stuff |
| 23:50.36 | Mr_Rabies | whereas the best best for alchemy is gather a giant pile of herbs, go into town and spend a good hour or two leveling it |
| 23:50.38 | jane | the only benefit is, like you say with skinning |
| 23:51.02 | Mr_Rabies | then a good 20 minutes figuring out what's worth selling on the AH and what you should just vendor |
| 23:51.11 | jane | alchemy leveling? i vendor it all hehe |
| 23:51.20 | jane | or pass it onto lower level alts or guildies |
| 23:51.23 | Mr_Rabies | well yeah, because you probably have thousands of gold now |
| 23:51.24 | Mr_Rabies | :p |
| 23:51.26 | jane | :P |
| 23:51.32 | jane | it cost ~3k in mats on my backasswards server |
| 23:51.32 | Mr_Rabies | imagine when you're poor starting out |
| 23:51.36 | jane | well |
| 23:51.40 | jane | herbing makes you decent money |
| 23:51.58 | jane | honestly, they all have pros and cons. i thought alch was easier than lw |
| 23:52.02 | Mr_Rabies | alchemy is the most consistently profitable profession |
| 23:52.09 | jane | i have nightmares about a certain dire maul wing spent hours and hit instance limit farming leather |
| 23:52.11 | jane | just to level |
| 23:52.17 | Mr_Rabies | it has a higher profit margin than any other profession, on average |
| 23:52.23 | jane | yeah, which is really nice |
| 23:52.34 | Mr_Rabies | it's the only one that remains profitable at every patch |
| 23:52.43 | Mr_Rabies | since most of the stuff made for it is consumed really quickly |
| 23:52.59 | jane | plus it's always useful in raids |
| 23:56.08 | jane | alchemy is so useful i have it on so many toons...stop me x.x |
| 23:56.12 | jane | been considering it for my new main |
| 23:56.28 | jane | and then i feel bad when a truegold cd or something goes unused |
| 23:56.50 | jane | oh i could pot spec |
