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| 00:30.09 | `vip | Hrmmm, wonder what Metzen has in store for alliance, he just tweeted |
| 00:30.13 | `vip | Don't worry, Alliance! I love ya dearly. There's some epic things yer about to do that will have you smiling and fist-pumping for years. |
| 00:31.57 | fewyn | a meteor is going to crash in the northwest section of azeroth and wipe out night elves and draenei? |
| 00:32.35 | Laihendi | maybe they'll make it so nelf women dont wear bras anymore |
| 00:32.49 | `vip | haha |
| 00:39.11 | BlackNet | ok so reading this thign on wowhead about the eye of rag on the legendary |
| 00:39.16 | BlackNet | some type of /e thing |
| 00:39.32 | BlackNet | surely that's like the lucky rabbits foot thing? |
| 00:39.51 | JunkHead | ? |
| 00:41.15 | BlackNet | this -=> /em pokes %t 's eye out. many post saying that's what they did to make it drop |
| 00:42.40 | JunkHead | no clue what youretalking about. |
| 00:43.53 | BlackNet | http://www.wowhead.com/item=17204#comments:80 scrol down to - |
| 00:43.54 | BlackNet | |
| 00:43.54 | BlackNet | By Grayswindir (498 – 1·13) on 2011/01/19 (Patch 4.0.3) |
| 00:47.35 | JunkHead | try it andsee. |
| 00:48.36 | BlackNet | already locked this week. |
| 00:48.39 | BlackNet | will try come reset |
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| 01:00.53 | Laihendi | i hope santorum is still hot in 4 years when he runs for pres again |
| 01:01.11 | Stormscape | I like how Dealxtreme can ship me a cable from Hong Kong for free, but Newegg wants $10 to ship a cable across the country |
| 01:01.25 | Laihendi | okay |
| 01:02.09 | BlackNet | is one $10 higher? |
| 01:02.41 | Stormscape | and to make it even more hilarious, Newegg wants $4 for the cable |
| 01:02.53 | Stormscape | DX's price? $1.04 each if I buy 10. |
| 01:03.30 | Stormscape | otherwise $1.70 each |
| 01:04.13 | BlackNet | min order then? |
| 01:04.15 | BlackNet | from dx |
| 01:05.07 | Stormscape | Nope, just bulk rates |
| 01:05.26 | BlackNet | yea typically the 'bulk rate' only applies if you order x+ quantity |
| 01:05.38 | Stormscape | $1.70 each if you order less than 3 |
| 01:05.44 | Stormscape | 1.24 each for 3 or 4 |
| 01:05.47 | Stormscape | 1.14 for 5-9 |
| 01:05.50 | Stormscape | 1.04 ea for 10+ |
| 01:06.01 | Stormscape | At those prices you might as well buy 10 |
| 01:07.12 | BlackNet | true |
| 01:07.23 | BlackNet | not all cables are the same either. is this the exact same quality? |
| 01:07.31 | Stormscape | it's a kinda rare cable |
| 01:07.36 | Stormscape | SATA to Molex |
| 01:07.43 | Stormscape | they're annoying as shit to find |
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| 01:07.54 | BlackNet | that's not rare |
| 01:08.07 | Stormscape | No, SATA to Molex: http://www.dealextreme.com/photogallery.dx/sku.91841 |
| 01:08.41 | BlackNet | yea they come with every external enclosure |
| 01:09.02 | Stormscape | uhhh |
| 01:09.05 | Stormscape | why would they |
| 01:09.21 | BlackNet | when you plug sata drives into an external usb port |
| 01:09.38 | BlackNet | the kit includes that adapter, a sata cable, the module itself, a power supply |
| 01:09.59 | Stormscape | why would it include that adapter |
| 01:10.11 | BlackNet | you have to plug drives into power |
| 01:10.16 | tate | oh my |
| 01:10.21 | Stormscape | are you sure you don't mean Molex to SATA |
| 01:11.01 | Stormscape | this is for hooking up molex devices when you have no molex connectors |
| 01:11.41 | BlackNet | one kit that i bought has about 5 different adapters in it |
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| 02:26.51 | tate | hmm |
| 02:36.48 | gearkraft | nobody really talking :( |
| 02:38.12 | tate | :I |
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| 02:44.57 | beornx | hum |
| 02:48.39 | Noxy | It is a little slow on occasion. We dont get as much traffic in here as we used to. |
| 02:49.26 | tate | :I |
| 02:49.57 | Elysa | :( |
| 02:50.00 | Elysa | It's true |
| 02:50.13 | gearkraft | lol figures, I quit playing wow a few years ago, got back into it |
| 02:50.34 | gearkraft | about to hit my first lvl 80 |
| 02:54.01 | Laihendi | gn u guys i luv u all :) <3 |
| 02:54.07 | gearkraft | night |
| 02:54.46 | Noxy | Grats! |
| 02:54.53 | tate | yeah, gz.. |
| 02:55.00 | gearkraft | thanks! |
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| 02:58.03 | tate | so cool |
| 02:58.09 | tate | i've been using photoshop like years |
| 02:58.12 | tate | over 5 years |
| 02:58.21 | tate | and now it's first time i'm introducing myself into layer masks.. |
| 02:58.26 | tate | which is pretty basic |
| 02:59.08 | Noxy | Dont feel so bad. |
| 02:59.15 | Noxy | I dont use layer masks either. |
| 02:59.17 | Noxy | :D |
| 02:59.35 | gearkraft | I've been a graphic designer for nearly 10 years, I've rarely used it myself. |
| 02:59.52 | tate | odd |
| 03:00.13 | tate | i've done everything as "manually" (with multiple layers, few backup layers etc) and thought everyone else is using layer masks instead |
| 03:01.26 | gearkraft | theyre great once you get in the habit of using them |
| 03:02.00 | tate | umm it's ok, i personally use it other way |
| 03:02.09 | tate | i've been trying to force myself use these now.. |
| 03:06.27 | Noxy | I've been told masks are the way to go when making layers for each colour area when I'm doing that drawing thing, but I just get bored trying to figure it out. |
| 03:07.15 | tate | hah |
| 03:07.33 | tate | i've been trying that for last 4 years or so, everyone has told me what to do etc but i just couldn't |
| 03:07.42 | tate | "but what if i do it this way, it works this way too!" |
| 03:07.48 | tate | "no but it's not the same!" |
| 03:08.06 | robotigger | I've only just learned how to make GIMP do a line between two points :( |
| 03:08.07 | gearkraft | there's always more than one way to skin a cat |
| 03:08.18 | robotigger | hisses at gearkraft |
| 03:08.38 | gearkraft | pets the kitty |
| 03:09.06 | robotigger | :3 |
| 03:12.40 | Elysa | scratches robotigger's belly. |
| 03:13.41 | robotigger | hides under the sofa |
| 03:17.35 | tate | humh |
| 03:17.49 | tate | i have no idea what did i just do |
| 03:17.51 | tate | with photoshop |
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| 03:18.03 | tate | me and shitloads of rainbow colors and glowing things |
| 03:18.08 | Pickleface | hi |
| 03:18.15 | Pickleface | I'm a US player that wanted to start playing again |
| 03:18.21 | Pickleface | anyone wanna give me the scroll thing ? |
| 03:18.23 | tate | never eu :( |
| 03:18.42 | gearkraft | hmmm i think i could manage that |
| 03:20.35 | gearkraft | pickle, pming you |
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| 03:27.25 | tate | so.. |
| 03:28.06 | Pickleface | hi |
| 03:29.56 | gearkraft | do any of you use the carbonite addon? |
| 03:30.02 | tate | so i made art |
| 03:30.07 | tate | as |
| 03:30.09 | tate | The Art |
| 03:30.21 | tate | http://kuvauppi.fi/l/57C18458-21DD-F0FB-0914-CF438982621A |
| 03:30.28 | tate | wtf is that and why did i do that |
| 03:31.17 | tate | instead of that i propably should do something constructive lol |
| 03:31.42 | gearkraft | sometimes its fun to play around |
| 03:31.59 | gearkraft | I draw cartoon versions of celebrities when I'm bored |
| 03:32.14 | tate | that's brilliant |
| 03:32.32 | gearkraft | did you make that picture in photoshop or gimp? |
| 03:32.39 | tate | photoshop |
| 03:32.58 | gearkraft | nice |
| 03:33.17 | tate | i'm actually pretty good using it but that's just something i do when i have nothing else to |
| 03:33.30 | tate | no tv-series to watch, no arena partners on, no bf3 friends on etc |
| 03:33.43 | tate | also it's 05:30 am which might explain.. |
| 03:33.49 | gearkraft | whats your bf3 name |
| 03:33.57 | tate | umm |
| 03:34.00 | gearkraft | are you playing on pc |
| 03:34.00 | tate | it used to be tatefin but |
| 03:34.04 | tate | i changed it yesterday |
| 03:34.05 | tate | yeah |
| 03:34.15 | tate | i'd rather add you.. :D |
| 03:34.20 | gearkraft | me too, all my friends play on xbox, so i am foreveralone |
| 03:34.26 | tate | ;_; |
| 03:34.54 | gearkraft | same as my name, "gearkraft" |
| 03:36.03 | tate | going to sleep for hour or two soon |
| 03:36.13 | tate | Last seen |
| 03:36.14 | tate | 2 months ago |
| 03:36.16 | tate | uh. |
| 03:36.25 | gearkraft | lol, nobody to play with, plus wow gets in the way |
| 03:36.51 | gearkraft | i played a lot more bc2 |
| 03:36.55 | tate | so did i.. |
| 03:37.00 | tate | actually it was better imo |
| 03:37.06 | tate | none plays it these days tho |
| 03:37.13 | gearkraft | couldnt agree more, id almost rather play bc2 |
| 03:37.41 | tate | btw which realm u playing at? |
| 03:37.51 | gearkraft | Echo Isles |
| 03:38.07 | tate | never heard.. some rppvp / pve maybe? |
| 03:39.10 | gearkraft | Echo Isles US (PvE) (Server Located in Seattle Washington, USA) |
| 03:39.18 | tate | ah, US |
| 03:39.29 | gearkraft | EU? |
| 03:39.37 | gearkraft | for you that is? |
| 03:39.43 | tate | EU for meh |
| 03:39.46 | tate | -h |
| 03:40.56 | gearkraft | gotcha |
| 03:41.14 | tate | why not zoidberg? (V) (;,,;) (V) |
| 03:41.35 | gearkraft | LOL |
| 03:41.51 | Stormscape | Need a realm name? Why not Zoidberg? |
| 03:42.30 | gearkraft | I'd name mine bacon cheeseburger |
| 03:42.45 | tate | http://imgur.com/gallery/trj52 |
| 03:42.45 | tate | ahaha |
| 03:42.49 | tate | way too tired for this shit |
| 03:42.58 | gearkraft | lol good picture |
| 03:55.12 | gearkraft | CommanderRoot? |
| 03:55.13 | BlackNet | is it possible to disban a level 25 guild? |
| 03:55.26 | gearkraft | I don't see why not |
| 03:55.48 | robotigger | ^^ |
| 03:55.55 | robotigger | not sure why you'd want to do that, but meh |
| 03:56.17 | BlackNet | gm is quitting and said he was going to disban the guild etc. but some are saying you cant it's level 25 |
| 03:57.11 | gearkraft | why wouldnt they just hand the reigns over to somebody else? |
| 03:57.20 | BlackNet | thats what im asking |
| 03:57.39 | gearkraft | seems rather selfish for everyone to lose their perks bc one guy wants it to end. |
| 03:58.46 | gearkraft | @tate: somalisoturi? |
| 03:59.01 | robotigger | perkele? |
| 04:01.14 | Lugburz | RATTIPAILLE |
| 04:01.22 | Lugburz | oh are we speaking finnish here? |
| 04:01.39 | robotigger | http://satwcomic.com/a-bad-day :3 |
| 04:01.40 | Lugburz | looks at turmion kätilõt song names |
| 04:01.40 | gearkraft | LOL no, i was asking tate for his bf3 name |
| 04:01.57 | Lugburz | oh |
| 04:02.01 | Lugburz | robotigger: hahahaha |
| 04:02.03 | Lugburz | nice |
| 04:02.07 | Lugburz | BTW one of best webcomics |
| 04:02.09 | Lugburz | ^_^ |
| 04:02.11 | robotigger | :> |
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| 04:08.57 | BlackNet | oh damn |
| 04:09.01 | BlackNet | they are doing a mass kick now |
| 04:09.02 | tate | gearkraft: ya |
| 04:09.41 | robotigger | ... |
| 04:10.00 | tate | np: Turmion Kätilöt - Shuttle To Venus |
| 04:19.17 | Elysa | tickles robotigger. |
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| 05:02.38 | gearkraft | added tate |
| 05:18.42 | BlackNet | there goes the guildlaunch.com setup to |
| 05:19.00 | JunkHead | ? |
| 05:19.34 | gearkraft | ? |
| 05:20.23 | BlackNet | JunkHead the guild i was in just disbanned |
| 05:20.36 | BlackNet | gm raged, gkicked about 250 accounts |
| 05:20.38 | JunkHead | Didn't you just join them like... |
| 05:20.42 | BlackNet | yup |
| 05:20.42 | JunkHead | a month ago? |
| 05:20.46 | BlackNet | yup |
| 05:21.00 | gearkraft | sounds like somebody has a napoleon complex |
| 05:21.32 | JunkHead | That's why I don't get atatched to guilds. |
| 05:21.40 | JunkHead | I rarely even join guilds. |
| 05:21.42 | BlackNet | he said he's done, blah blah blah, he's going to quit, couldnt' handle all the qq shit, had 4 kids, had to jump on to raid the minute he got home from work and put up all the bickering and he just raged. |
| 05:21.52 | gearkraft | right there with you, ive spent 99% of my time without one. |
| 05:22.00 | BlackNet | well i did get the cloak of coordination this am so i got the one thing i wanted out of it. |
| 05:22.09 | JunkHead | My warrior and mage on greymane are in a lvl 25 guild. |
| 05:22.17 | JunkHead | but if i got gkicked, i wouldn't care. |
| 05:22.22 | JunkHead | nice people though. |
| 05:22.24 | BlackNet | got invited to a guild run this weekend that's 5/8 heroic so that's a plus. |
| 05:22.40 | BlackNet | the good ppl i got on realid now so it went from a few to alot tonight. |
| 05:22.41 | JunkHead | My guild on stormrage is only lvl 3. |
| 05:22.48 | JunkHead | but i kinda can't get kicked from it. |
| 05:22.53 | JunkHead | since it's mine.:P |
| 05:23.41 | BlackNet | the guild i was on before realm/faction changing i was in close to a year, pushed them to level 25 in no time to, was spearheading the group that did the biggest push. |
| 05:23.52 | BlackNet | that shit is not easy either |
| 05:24.15 | JunkHead | This guild on greymane is the only guild for me with any high lvl. |
| 05:24.37 | JunkHead | any other guilds I've been in for any amount of time was before guild levels |
| 05:24.58 | JunkHead | I'd like to get my guild to lvl 5. |
| 05:25.03 | JunkHead | That's my goal. |
| 05:25.12 | JunkHead | It's just so slow.:\ |
| 05:25.15 | BlackNet | was actually starting to like this guild. have some very good ppl in there to. many of us went to oen of the officers alt guilds, it's level 1. talking about doing a 10m tomorrow but honestly im wanting to give this other group a shot see how they are |
| 05:25.45 | BlackNet | yea that one guild i was in before they had the levels and shit. |
| 05:27.13 | BlackNet | i even ask the gm in vent why not just hand the reins over to someoen else since he's quitting the game. the only reply i ever got remotely to that was there's nothing left in the guild bank and nothing there of interest. |
| 05:27.45 | BlackNet | they need a new title for me in game |
| 05:27.49 | BlackNet | 'destroyer of guilds' |
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| 05:57.58 | robotigger | gah |
| 05:58.03 | robotigger | BlSoD >_> |
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| 09:03.21 | neutronimity | http://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/qvl3a/til_that_in_2009_a_canadian_secondary_school/ I looked at the pdf and right on the first page into the actual text (past the table of contents) I noticed a typo >_< |
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| 09:08.30 | neutronimity | "Construction in space will be much more difficult, dangerous and expensive then construction on Earth, [..]" |
| 09:08.34 | neutronimity | groans |
| 09:08.47 | hylje | space space space |
| 09:08.56 | neutronimity | With the effort he put in it I would expect him to type properly |
| 09:09.04 | neutronimity | hugs dogel |
| 09:09.33 | Bundy | yeah oh my god a typo |
| 09:09.39 | Bundy | that totally invalidates the work |
| 09:09.44 | neutronimity | Shush |
| 09:10.10 | neutronimity | That wasn't what I said :3 |
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| 12:49.13 | JunkHead | So I just check my battle.net page |
| 12:49.31 | JunkHead | only to find out that on 11/30/09 i did a raf with my other account... and never claimed the mount. |
| 12:49.40 | neutronimity | .__. |
| 12:53.23 | Lumindia | I got two of my tier tokens from LFR last night |
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| 13:10.38 | Ward | my authenticator went Binary on me |
| 13:10.45 | Ward | I just used it, and the code was 101100 |
| 13:13.39 | BlackNet | lol |
| 13:13.55 | BlackNet | JunkHead grats on the mount |
| 13:14.05 | BlackNet | do you get the zebra mount? |
| 13:16.06 | JunkHead | the rocket |
| 13:17.21 | BlackNet | figured since it was in 09 you would get the rocket |
| 13:17.25 | BlackNet | er zebra |
| 13:17.28 | BlackNet | my bad cant type this am |
| 13:17.30 | JunkHead | no idea. |
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| 13:19.01 | BlackNet | this other guild that msg'd me last night is realm #9 for 10m |
| 13:19.16 | BlackNet | http://www.guildox.com/go/g.asp?n=Well+Played&r=Hyjal-US |
| 13:20.11 | Ward | I have the zebra, never use it |
| 13:20.39 | BlackNet | and the old guild :( http://us.battle.net/wow/en/guild/hyjal/Incubus/ |
| 13:20.47 | BlackNet | Level 25 Horde Guild, |
| 13:20.47 | BlackNet | |
| 13:20.47 | BlackNet | Hyjal |
| 13:20.47 | BlackNet | . |
| 13:20.47 | BlackNet | 3 members |
| 13:20.55 | BlackNet | use to have close to 300 members, yesterday |
| 13:21.06 | BlackNet | gotta run, work calls |
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| 13:51.02 | neutronimity | waves |
| 13:51.16 | Lienne | Hey there |
| 13:51.21 | Lienne | Happy Pi Day! |
| 13:51.28 | neutronimity | Hyia |
| 13:51.36 | neutronimity | hehe! |
| 14:15.21 | Ward | Pi day is on January 3rd 2041 |
| 14:15.33 | Ward | 3-1-41 |
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| 14:59.36 | tate | booyaa. |
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| 15:09.16 | Noxy | Rrooaarwwggl |
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| 15:11.45 | fewyn | roomba |
| 15:21.30 | Lienne | mrrrow |
| 15:25.55 | fewyn | i want a roomba |
| 15:25.57 | fewyn | and a cat |
| 15:28.24 | Noxy | xD |
| 15:38.38 | tate | cat would be nice idd |
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| 16:30.09 | tate | sigh |
| 16:30.12 | tate | wiping for morchok 25H |
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| 16:38.37 | g0urra | http://lukali.deviantart.com/art/WoW-Comic-A-Fitting-End-288038602 |
| 16:43.49 | neutronimity | first time on LoL in 1 year again |
| 16:44.08 | neutronimity | > who are these people in my friends list and how did they ninja approve without my consent? |
| 16:45.02 | Djones_ | Probably me! |
| 16:45.41 | tate | haa heroic gloves |
| 16:45.44 | neutronimity | Djones_ |
| 16:45.48 | Djones_ | Me. |
| 16:45.52 | tate | U. |
| 16:45.56 | Djane | I. |
| 16:46.01 | tate | U. |
| 16:46.06 | Djane | THERE'S SOMETHING INSIDE YOU, IT'S HARD TO EXPLAIN |
| 16:46.07 | tate | Yes. |
| 16:46.19 | Djane | THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT YOU BOY, BUT YOU'RE STILL THE SAME. |
| 16:47.10 | neutronimity | I used to always play |
| 16:47.11 | neutronimity | uhh |
| 16:47.14 | neutronimity | what was her name |
| 16:47.19 | Djane | Ashe. |
| 16:47.21 | g0urra | wut. there's an android app programming course at the local university this summer |
| 16:47.27 | neutronimity | aaah sivir |
| 16:47.32 | Djane | Sivir so stronk |
| 16:47.47 | robotigger | D: |
| 16:49.56 | neutronimity | Djane how does one learn to perfectionize one's item pathway? |
| 16:50.05 | Djane | neutronimity, practice, understanding counters. |
| 16:50.10 | neutronimity | I used to pick whatever was recommended.. |
| 16:50.13 | Djane | Taking an AD carry for instance. |
| 16:50.31 | Djane | You would tend to start with Dorans blade, but you might choose boots and 3 health potions, or cloth armour and 5 potions |
| 16:50.50 | Djane | And that decision is based on an informed understanding of how the lane is likely to go. You then evolve into items that counter what the enemy are doing. |
| 16:50.56 | neutronimity | is someone who hates consumables. |
| 16:51.17 | Djane | For instance if you're playing the AD carry as sivir and you believe you're going to get harassed hard, you'd maybe build into a wriggles lantern early rather than rush a B.F sword. |
| 16:51.51 | Djane | Giving you a massive amount of sustain that can burn through the harass, allowing you to counter harass and push harder on last hits as you are less likely to die/get into a bad position due to harass. |
| 16:52.13 | Djane | If you head to mobafire.com you can see some guides on champs that will give the -general- way to play them, -general- items that are strong on them. |
| 16:54.03 | robotigger | :| |
| 16:54.10 | robotigger | My cats name is mittens |
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| 16:55.03 | neutronimity | Interesting, thanks Djane |
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| 16:55.55 | Djane | Mostly it's just practise. |
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| 17:06.33 | tate | lol wipe for yor'sahj @1% |
| 17:06.42 | tate | some homosexuels tried to farm some dps |
| 17:06.43 | tate | gg.. |
| 17:10.16 | Lienne | hit buttons harder! |
| 17:10.18 | Lienne | more deeps |
| 17:10.39 | Djane | Because gay people are reknown for dps padding. :| |
| 17:14.46 | robotigger | |: |
| 17:16.44 | robotigger | A shame laihendi isn't around, or he'd be giving us a lecture about how it's so miserable being a gay dps |
| 17:16.55 | Djane | tate, also. Wut. How is aoeing ever bad on yor'sahj heroic? |
| 17:17.46 | Lienne | oh, Laihendi |
| 17:17.47 | tate | on the last oozes coming |
| 17:17.55 | Lienne | his trolling isn't even funny :( |
| 17:18.01 | Djane | tate, you let all 4 oozes hit? |
| 17:18.11 | Djane | well, they, not you |
| 17:19.42 | tate | they did, had some communication problems |
| 17:19.51 | Djane | Nod. We had one of those wipes once. |
| 17:20.12 | Lienne | black! no, yellow! |
| 17:20.13 | Lienne | WAIT |
| 17:20.17 | Lienne | GREEN |
| 17:20.20 | Djane | *shudder* |
| 17:20.20 | Lienne | :( |
| 17:20.32 | Djane | Black, yellow, green + ? |
| 17:20.39 | Djane | I think always yellow |
| 17:20.44 | Djane | Unless it's green and red |
| 17:20.47 | Djane | In which case yeah green |
| 17:20.48 | tate | actually someone told to stay on boss |
| 17:20.52 | tate | someone told go for oozes |
| 17:20.57 | Lienne | Yeah, we killed yellow in that case I think |
| 17:20.57 | tate | so some did some didn't |
| 17:21.07 | Lienne | I can't remember |
| 17:21.10 | Lienne | I haven't raided in like 3 months |
| 17:21.10 | Djane | Lienne, red+green == no no no |
| 17:21.14 | tate | at warlord atm, got already hc gloves :} |
| 17:21.20 | Lienne | no, I mean in a black/yellow/green/non-red |
| 17:21.27 | Lienne | green+red = always kill green |
| 17:21.28 | Djane | Yeah, yellow in that situation always |
| 17:21.39 | Djane | Because fuck two sets of adds. |
| 17:21.47 | Lienne | :P |
| 17:22.08 | Djane | iirc the black, green, yellow, red is the nuke green and hit bloodlust phase |
| 17:22.18 | Lienne | Yes |
| 17:22.33 | Djane | I'm a shadowpriest with heroic cunning of the cruel |
| 17:22.37 | Djane | that is my FAVOURITE phase. |
| 17:22.39 | Lienne | hax |
| 17:22.43 | Lienne | :D |
| 17:22.50 | Djane | Mindsear+shadowbolt volley, so much damage. |
| 17:23.29 | Lienne | Numbers EVERYWHERE |
| 17:23.38 | Djane | doing ALL the dps |
| 17:23.52 | Djane | I tend to top the meters on yor'sahj:H because of that. |
| 17:24.07 | Lienne | :) |
| 17:24.19 | Djane | It also helps I have to do very little raid leading |
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| 17:24.32 | Djane | Raid leading is approximately a 10% nerf to my dps. |
| 17:34.48 | tate | so as a hunter flay prio #1? |
| 17:34.57 | tate | at warlord |
| 17:35.15 | Djane | tate, flail first, then eyes. |
| 17:35.27 | Djane | As any dps, flail first tbh |
| 17:35.30 | Djane | except rogues |
| 17:36.07 | tate | flail* :D |
| 17:36.10 | tate | wth am i talking about |
| 17:36.22 | Djane | I knew what you meant :p |
| 17:37.21 | robotigger | shrug |
| 17:43.12 | Lienne | steals robotigger's catnip |
| 17:44.20 | robotigger | glares |
| 17:44.58 | Lienne | :) |
| 17:45.11 | Lienne | tosses NEW catnip in front of robotigger. |
| 17:46.45 | robotigger | rawrs |
| 17:49.54 | Lienne | :) |
| 17:56.45 | tate | ragequit |
| 17:56.51 | tate | i think i'm getting gkicked |
| 17:56.58 | tate | these guys are just.. ehh |
| 17:58.14 | Djane | tate, errr? |
| 17:58.16 | Lienne | :O |
| 17:58.20 | Lienne | snuggles robotigger. |
| 17:58.25 | Djane | what did you do? |
| 18:00.57 | tate | i did what i meant to, healers were slacky |
| 18:01.00 | tate | "I DIDN'T KNOW" |
| 18:01.11 | Djane | is not following. |
| 18:01.31 | tate | people didn't heal me like for 3-4 pulls |
| 18:01.38 | Djane | Ouch |
| 18:01.47 | tate | and then they start blaming me |
| 18:01.49 | tate | which was enough |
| 18:01.51 | tate | fuck that |
| 18:01.59 | Djane | Silly tate |
| 18:02.05 | tate | silly healers |
| 18:02.07 | tate | silly guild |
| 18:02.08 | Djane | Why didn't you reverse mend pet? |
| 18:02.28 | tate | i even deterrenced and was standing for 1% hp like 10 seconds |
| 18:02.29 | tate | none did anything |
| 18:02.31 | tate | blergh |
| 18:02.41 | tate | cofee and some bf3 -> |
| 18:05.19 | Lienne | use a bandage! |
| 18:09.30 | ari5av | lordy i am such a huge nerd |
| 18:10.12 | ari5av | i'm at my local pizza shop working on my laptop and my friend who works here just said to me "hey ari - split pea soup?" and my first reaction was "nil!" |
| 18:10.16 | ari5av | reference here: http://catb.org/jargon/html/p-convention.html |
| 18:12.12 | beornx | hi |
| 18:20.02 | Freyja | [The Wowhead Blog] More Mists of Pandaria Screenshots of the Day - http://www.wowheadnews.com/blog=201615/more-mists-of-pandaria-screenshots-of-the-day |
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| 18:23.45 | robotigger | tate, sounds like me, I spent a couple of pulls not healing persons because they annoyed me :P |
| 18:27.26 | tate | i was quiet and all |
| 18:27.30 | tate | did everything told to |
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| 18:27.41 | tate | there was no way i could annoy anyone |
| 18:28.34 | robotigger | I was just giving my side of the story :p |
| 18:29.43 | robotigger | or to make it brief: Healers are bastards |
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| 18:43.15 | Lienne | <- total bastard |
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| 18:54.51 | Ward | as a healer, I concur |
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| 20:33.52 | BlackNet | bought me a gun today |
| 20:34.05 | BlackNet | got a sig 250 2sum. |
| 20:37.43 | tate | no gkick yet.. |
| 20:37.45 | tate | brilliant |
| 20:37.52 | BlackNet | oh? |
| 20:38.25 | BlackNet | what happened tate? |
| 20:38.53 | tate | ragequitted |
| 20:39.04 | BlackNet | ah |
| 20:39.13 | BlackNet | well you hear about what happened to me last night? |
| 20:39.22 | tate | sure go on |
| 20:39.23 | BlackNet | well not just me but about 90 people |
| 20:39.25 | tate | grabbing cup of coffee brb |
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| 20:40.10 | BlackNet | guild i was in had about 300 toons and close to 90 accounts. gm came on vent and said he's quitting, going to disband the guild etc. |
| 20:40.26 | BlackNet | so he gkicked everyone, canceled his sub |
| 20:40.59 | BlackNet | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/guild/hyjal/Incubus/roster |
| 20:42.24 | BlackNet | he vendored everything in the guild bank as well |
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| 20:43.11 | Stormscape | I thought you could talk to GMs about that |
| 20:43.13 | Stormscape | if that happened |
| 20:43.28 | BlackNet | might be able to |
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| 20:44.29 | BlackNet | level 25 guild. i told him a guild has many perks other than just raiding and the only reply i got was the guild bank is empty and there's no more raiding. |
| 20:45.45 | BlackNet | he gkicked every single person so that we could not replace him after so many days |
| 20:46.41 | Stormscape | what an immature dickweasel |
| 20:47.38 | BlackNet | yup |
| 20:47.53 | BlackNet | i ask him why not just hand the reins over to someone else since he was going to cancel his account. |
| 20:48.18 | BlackNet | about the only thing i got from that was him saying he was offered $600 for his account. |
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| 20:56.39 | Jammer | just report it to the GMs |
| 20:57.01 | Jammer | probably gonna get the account banned if he sells it |
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| 21:00.25 | BlackNet | i just did but honestly im not sure what if anything they can/will do about it. |
| 21:00.36 | BlackNet | afterall the gm is in control and all that |
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| 21:02.36 | BlackNet | also the guildlaunch site everyoen was booted from and the gm is suppose to close that |
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| 21:06.03 | BlackNet | hmm so .wowadmin.net is blizz |
| 21:09.01 | hylje | doesn't sound legit |
| 21:09.34 | BlackNet | just opened a ticket and that was the originating ip |
| 21:09.53 | BlackNet | Received: from su1-europa01 (su1-support-europa01.wowadmin.net [10.44.2.71]) |
| 21:09.53 | BlackNet | by su1-admin-guardian.wowadmin.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id q2EKo5RH007110 |
| 21:10.25 | hylje | so if you can trace that email to the ticket, it's legit |
| 21:10.59 | hylje | but still a leap of faith since if blizzard had any clue, they'd have a *.blizzard.com, *.battle.net or *.worldofwarcraft.com email server |
| 21:11.20 | g0urra | http://www.myiptest.com/staticpages/index.php/whois/wowadmin.net |
| 21:11.32 | Bundy | wowadmin.net does not resovle |
| 21:11.41 | Bundy | and its a non-routeable ip you paste |
| 21:11.47 | Bundy | so its just an internal adress |
| 21:11.56 | BlackNet | do a whois on that |
| 21:13.08 | BlackNet | Registrant: |
| 21:13.08 | BlackNet | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:13.17 | BlackNet | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:13.17 | BlackNet | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:13.17 | BlackNet | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:13.53 | Bundy | its still not a domain they use outside their own network though |
| 21:14.37 | BlackNet | Mar 14 16:50:21 abyss postfix/smtpd[8076]: A4A8B62000A: client=unknown[12.129.230.181] |
| 21:14.37 | BlackNet | Mar 14 16:50:21 abyss postfix/cleanup[9162]: A4A8B62000A: message-id=<201203142050.q2EKo5RH007110@su1-admin-guardian.wowadmin.net> |
| 21:14.42 | BlackNet | there's the public |
| 21:14.55 | BlackNet | and yes i own my MTA |
| 21:15.35 | Bundy | ik not sure what you mean |
| 21:15.49 | BlackNet | first line is the ip they sent the email from. |
| 21:16.11 | BlackNet | the A4a.... is the msgid number |
| 21:16.31 | Bundy | yeah well it has to hit the internet at some point for you to recieve it |
| 21:16.43 | Gnarfoz | can you pastebin the full headers? |
| 21:16.45 | BlackNet | if you do a dig on the ip, 12.129.230.181, it resolves to wowadmin.net |
| 21:17.15 | BlackNet | i did even better Gnarfoz i posted the mail server log entries. |
| 21:17.28 | Gnarfoz | you posted exceprts, and it's in no way "better" :p |
| 21:17.32 | Gnarfoz | *excerpts |
| 21:17.34 | Gnarfoz | DAMNIT |
| 21:17.34 | Gnarfoz | :C |
| 21:17.55 | BlackNet | ok so you wanna see the pre mta routing |
| 21:18.01 | Gnarfoz | wait, I thought I typoed the correction, but I didn't |
| 21:18.49 | Gnarfoz | hm? no, I just want to see the headers of the email, as it reached you - if you care to share them :) |
| 21:18.58 | BlackNet | sure working on that now. |
| 21:19.49 | Stormscape | http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2012/03/14/Girl-12-hit-by-rugby-ball-dies/UPI-43141331705351/ what the actual fuck |
| 21:20.07 | Gnarfoz | seems to be a simple case of split-horizon DNS spilling out into publicly readable places (in this case: email headers), nothing nefarious or unusual, really |
| 21:21.14 | BlackNet | it's a legit email |
| 21:21.24 | Bundy | noone said it wasnt |
| 21:21.26 | BlackNet | know that 100% because i just opened a ticket and this wsa the response. |
| 21:21.47 | Gnarfoz | Bundy: actually, someone did ;-) |
| 21:21.54 | Bundy | ok, yeah |
| 21:21.55 | Bundy | i didnt :P |
| 21:22.33 | BlackNet | did anyone miss the europa section in the post i made? |
| 21:22.52 | BlackNet | Received: from su1-europa01 (su1-support-europa01.wowadmin.net <<<---- |
| 21:22.57 | Gnarfoz | anyway... there's bound to be a ton of smtp servers out there who'd reject the mail because the delivering smtp client uses an IP without a reverse dns entry... |
| 21:23.33 | Bundy | yeah, it seems kinda wierd.. also wowadmin.net do sound supecious |
| 21:23.36 | BlackNet | you would prob be shocked if you saw the mta logs of the shit that i get hit with each day |
| 21:23.39 | BlackNet | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:23.53 | Gnarfoz | nah, I wouldn't, I've got my own |
| 21:23.54 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 21:23.59 | BlackNet | oh ok :) |
| 21:24.08 | BlackNet | 4k rejects / day at LEAST |
| 21:25.24 | Gnarfoz | 98% or something gets rejected for stupidly easily fixable violations of (today's typical) smtp rules like the one I mentioned above (and variations on it) |
| 21:25.39 | Gnarfoz | and of the remaining 2%, again 90% are still spam, imagine that |
| 21:25.39 | Gnarfoz | ;D |
| 21:25.48 | BlackNet | well client=unknown[12.129.230.181] |
| 21:26.36 | Gnarfoz | yet, I wonder why spammers don't care that they're just getting rejected by ungodly amounts of mail servers because of simple shit like that... they must be making enough money regardless. |
| 21:26.41 | Gnarfoz | ...spam just boggles the mind |
| 21:26.49 | BlackNet | they do |
| 21:27.38 | BlackNet | this one guy a few years ago was busted in virginia. had everything he owned in someoen else's name so they had a helluva time getting all that shit for court. he was making a good $750,000 per year just from spam email |
| 21:33.29 | Gnarfoz | makes me reconsider a life of crime, once again |
| 21:33.33 | Gnarfoz | e-crime! |
| 21:33.50 | Gnarfoz | someone should make a TV series about a group of evil spammers |
| 21:33.53 | Gnarfoz | or something ;D |
| 21:35.11 | BlackNet | anyways. http://www.sigsauer.com/CatalogProductDetails/p250-2sum.aspx <<--- what i bought today |
| 21:35.54 | Gnarfoz | The APNSoft Menu will only work on JavaScript enabled browsers. |
| 21:35.58 | Gnarfoz | /sadface |
| 21:36.08 | g0urra | ilvl 402, omnom |
| 21:37.43 | Gnarfoz | BlackNet: http://www.sigsauer.com/upFiles/catalog/product/P250-2SUM-detail-SubC.jpg this one... has no trigger? (it probably has :P how does it work with that model? I know shit all about guns) |
| 21:38.06 | BlackNet | it's 2 frames. you get a compact and regular size. |
| 21:38.22 | Gnarfoz | oh it's not even a different model; swappable frames? |
| 21:38.29 | BlackNet | the trigger group is the 'registered' part so the frame and slide is all you need |
| 21:38.33 | BlackNet | yup correct. |
| 21:38.34 | Gnarfoz | dang |
| 21:38.39 | Gnarfoz | interesting |
| 21:38.48 | BlackNet | you drop the trigger group into the frame you want. |
| 21:38.53 | BlackNet | comes in 40 and 9, |
| 21:39.05 | BlackNet | also you can change the 40 barrel and do 357 |
| 21:39.25 | Gnarfoz | that's... bullet diameter... thingy, right? (caliber?) |
| 21:39.29 | BlackNet | yup |
| 21:39.48 | Gnarfoz | and I guess 40 and 357 are based on inches rather than mm? :P |
| 21:40.01 | BlackNet | yea .40 inches and .357 inches |
| 21:40.08 | Gnarfoz | 357 mm would be... some kind of cannon :D |
| 21:40.13 | BlackNet | and 9mm is also in spread :) |
| 21:40.29 | BlackNet | they measure the headstamp diameter |
| 21:42.03 | BlackNet | this http://wetlands.simplyaquatics.com/v/ammo/headstamp/AP_lc_4.jpg.html?g2_imageViewsIndex=1 |
| 21:42.35 | BlackNet | this one is 30-06, made by lake city in 1944, it's AP |
| 21:42.54 | BlackNet | armor piercing |
| 21:58.50 | BlackNet | LOL |
| 21:59.09 | BlackNet | i just joined a random bg for daily conquest. took about 2 mins tops for the win on our side |
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| 22:09.29 | Ward | woot woot woot |
| 22:09.33 | Ward | got the mount from Madness |
| 22:10.24 | BlackNet | grats |
| 22:10.58 | BlackNet | saw the mount drop from ultra and madness like 3 times so far. they wouldnt' let me roll on it due to guild rank and all that. now am kinda pissed about that due to last night |
| 22:12.43 | Ward | I got it on an alt |
| 22:13.00 | Ward | we have an EPGP system for raidloot, but mounts and novelty stuff we just do a straight raid roll |
| 22:13.21 | g0urra | we raid roll everything |
| 22:14.52 | BlackNet | ok so tell me something, on the realms that everyone here plays on how is the number of 25man groups vs 10 man groups? is it 25m groups are a dying breed? |
| 22:16.16 | Jammer | we have 1 guild only left that is even attempting 25man on alliance side, rest have moved to 10man due to low population |
| 22:17.09 | Ward | yeah my guild was 25 man up until the cataclysm, but numbers dropped fast when 10 mans came out |
| 22:17.23 | Ward | we still try to do 25 man farming but for progress we just do 10s |
| 22:17.25 | Jammer | think we have like ten 10man guilds |
| 22:17.54 | Ward | I think 25 mans should drop better loot than 10 |
| 22:17.57 | Ward | like it was in ICC |
| 22:18.00 | Stormscape | oh god somebody on Hom's Tardware just summed up Steam perfectly. "Steam has become the Apple of the gaming community." |
| 22:18.15 | Ward | nah, Steam works |
| 22:18.16 | Ward | usually |
| 22:18.36 | Ward | Apple is all form over function and wickedly overpriced for what you actually get |
| 22:18.38 | Stormscape | Ward, yeah but it's actually quite minimal in features and Gaben has been elevated to cult status |
| 22:18.41 | Ward | Steam is cheap and practical |
| 22:18.41 | BlackNet | so most are going to 10m and dropping 25m |
| 22:19.04 | Ward | Gabe is a cult hero because he is mocked |
| 22:19.24 | Ward | not like Jobs, who everybody takes deadly serious |
| 22:20.00 | Stormscape | When my co-worker bought his Mac he said it felt like he was being welcomed to a cult by the Apple store employees |
| 22:20.17 | Stormscape | He was like "I very nearly considered just running out of the store" |
| 22:20.24 | Mr_Rabies | gabe's a cult hero because he's a genuinely good guy who doesn't use his position to get as rich as possible at all cost |
| 22:21.36 | hylje | gabe's a cult hero because his fattiness correlates with the money valve earned |
| 22:23.13 | Mr_Rabies | he's amazingly good to his employees and his platform has let many small businesses get way more exposure than they ever would have without it |
| 22:23.17 | Jammer | dunno valve don't seem that much better to other companies :p |
| 22:24.38 | Stormscape | It's also creating a totally unhealthy ecosystem |
| 22:24.40 | Stormscape | a single monopoly |
| 22:24.55 | Mr_Rabies | so far he's a pretty good example of what those with money should do |
| 22:25.06 | Mr_Rabies | there's no competition unfortunately, Stormscape |
| 22:25.09 | Stormscape | Origin. |
| 22:25.12 | Stormscape | Origin is perfectly fine. |
| 22:25.12 | Mr_Rabies | ha |
| 22:25.16 | hylje | >origin |
| 22:25.18 | hylje | >2012 |
| 22:25.24 | hylje | ishiggity diggity |
| 22:25.49 | Stormscape | Origin is already better than Steam because offline mode actually works |
| 22:26.06 | Mr_Rabies | ha |
| 22:26.26 | Mr_Rabies | steam could use some more features, but offline mode works fine if you do it right |
| 22:26.31 | Mr_Rabies | though it's kind of a pain right now |
| 22:26.32 | Stormscape | No, it doesn't. |
| 22:26.35 | Mr_Rabies | sure it does |
| 22:26.44 | Stormscape | It only sometimes works on the first blood moon of the month and only if you're of the right bloodline |
| 22:26.55 | Mr_Rabies | you're probably not using it as explained in the documentation then |
| 22:27.04 | Stormscape | 8 years, 5 computers |
| 22:27.06 | Stormscape | still doesn't work |
| 22:27.18 | hylje | let's just settle to "drm is bad" and "proprietary software is evil" |
| 22:27.25 | Stormscape | Also, Origin lets me change install paths. |
| 22:27.28 | Stormscape | Are you listening Valve? |
| 22:27.29 | Mr_Rabies | you're supposed to switch to offline mode once a month while connected to the internet if you anticipate you'll be disconnected often |
| 22:27.31 | hylje | and go on like adults |
| 22:27.33 | Stormscape | Install paths are important. |
| 22:27.52 | Mr_Rabies | however, that's kind of a crappy way of doing it and i wish it was more smooth |
| 22:28.18 | Mr_Rabies | implying it doesn't work isn't quite accurate though |
| 22:28.27 | Mr_Rabies | and yeah, we could use install paths |
| 22:28.55 | Mr_Rabies | but on the other hand, valve doesn't randomly fire their developers when they're done with a project or force them to release games before they're complete |
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| 22:29.57 | Stormscape | Steam is pretty fucking shit considering how many years it's been out. |
| 22:30.11 | Stormscape | it still does stuff really retarded |
| 22:30.27 | Mr_Rabies | other than offline mode being a bit wonky and no install paths, i'm happy with everything else |
| 22:30.47 | Stormscape | Right now on my machine Steam has a massive memory leak |
| 22:30.54 | Stormscape | It's currently using 115 MB to sit idle in the background |
| 22:31.01 | Mr_Rabies | what windows do you have open? |
| 22:31.04 | Stormscape | Nothing |
| 22:31.05 | Mr_Rabies | steam windows |
| 22:31.13 | Shigy | Origin uses about 30mb more than that to sit idle |
| 22:31.14 | Shigy | lol |
| 22:31.14 | Stormscape | Like I said, it's sitting idle in the background |
| 22:31.21 | Stormscape | Origin uses about 30 MB to sit idle |
| 22:31.25 | Mr_Rabies | also, i'd hardly call 115mb a memory leak |
| 22:31.30 | Mr_Rabies | er |
| 22:31.31 | Mr_Rabies | a massive one |
| 22:31.33 | Stormscape | Mr_Rabies, it's climbed up as high as 200 MB |
| 22:31.39 | Mr_Rabies | oh nooooooo |
| 22:31.53 | Stormscape | Even shitty Thunderbird uses less sitting idle |
| 22:31.57 | Mr_Rabies | pc-133 is so expensive |
| 22:32.07 | Mr_Rabies | those 16 mb sticks will kill you |
| 22:32.24 | Mr_Rabies | steam's currently using 71 mb and it's been open for |
| 22:32.26 | Mr_Rabies | WindowsVista Uptime: 6days 13hrs 53mins 44secs Best: 7wks 6days 4hrs 56mins 15secs |
| 22:32.31 | Mr_Rabies | about a week |
| 22:32.43 | Stormscape | Mine's currently using 115 MB now |
| 22:32.46 | Stormscape | open for: 12 hours |
| 22:33.18 | Shigy | My steam is using 15mb. But it normally uses about 100mb. My browser uses more than that. I'm really not worried. |
| 22:33.29 | Stormscape | ha, I just figured it out. |
| 22:33.33 | Stormscape | wow it's a result of poor coding |
| 22:33.40 | Shigy | oh? |
| 22:33.43 | Stormscape | If you close the main Steam window with the store or community tab open |
| 22:33.46 | Mr_Rabies | if you're splitting hairs for 100 mb you probably need to upgrade your system |
| 22:33.46 | Stormscape | it doesn't empty its memory |
| 22:33.53 | Stormscape | if you switch to library first it dumps the memory |
| 22:34.04 | Stormscape | Current usage: 9 MB |
| 22:34.09 | Shigy | Saves time when you open it again I guess. |
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| 22:34.34 | Shigy | My origin on the other hand is using 80mb sitting idle. |
| 22:34.42 | Stormscape | let's see how much origin uses for me |
| 22:34.59 | Shigy | Personally I'd never use origin except for that I can't get the games on steam. |
| 22:35.13 | Stormscape | I'd honestly use Origin over Steam |
| 22:35.13 | Mr_Rabies | i'll never use it |
| 22:35.16 | Shigy | Its a bad clone of steam. |
| 22:35.18 | Mr_Rabies | EA's fucking awful |
| 22:35.33 | Stormscape | Origin's interface is a lot better. |
| 22:35.51 | Shigy | Not really. It doesn't even select back to the game when you get rid of the overlay |
| 22:36.01 | hylje | origin is Glorified Battlefield 3 Launcher |
| 22:36.03 | Stormscape | overlay? |
| 22:36.11 | Mr_Rabies | i don't care if origin gave me free gas for life |
| 22:36.15 | Shigy | the thing you get when you press shift + f1 |
| 22:36.29 | Stormscape | oh, the first thing I do with any steam install is disable the overlay |
| 22:36.32 | Stormscape | because I never fucking use it |
| 22:37.05 | Shigy | I love the overlay in steam. But origin's one is shite. |
| 22:37.25 | Stormscape | I think I used Steam's once |
| 22:37.26 | Stormscape | by accident |
| 22:37.28 | Stormscape | hated it |
| 22:37.30 | Stormscape | disabled it |
| 22:39.31 | hylje | ding dong bannu |
| 22:40.11 | Stormscape | Also, Origin is a lot faster for downloads. |
| 22:40.17 | Stormscape | I get double my line speed on it. |
| 22:40.25 | Stormscape | Not sure how that's even remotely possible but I'm not gonna argue |
| 22:40.46 | Shigy | I get about the same on both. |
| 22:40.55 | Stormscape | Origin: 10 MB/s usually |
| 22:40.58 | Stormscape | Steam: 3-4 |
| 22:41.04 | Stormscape | my line speed is 5.8 |
| 22:53.11 | Mr_Rabies | change your connection settings in steam |
| 22:53.19 | Mr_Rabies | downloads/cloud tab of settings |
| 22:53.36 | Mr_Rabies | make sure it's set on something faster |
| 22:53.51 | Mr_Rabies | also there's no way you get faster than your line speed, most likely origin either just rounds up or outright lies |
| 22:54.18 | Stormscape | Mr_Rabies, that 3-4 is after years of fucking around with the settings |
| 22:54.23 | Stormscape | it's not even for a server on my continent |
| 22:54.29 | Stormscape | it's for like, Ukraine or something |
| 22:54.38 | Stormscape | the ones in North America give me like, 900 KB/s |
| 22:55.49 | Mr_Rabies | that's weird, your isp might be pulling some shady shit |
| 22:56.06 | Stormscape | ISP works perfectly fine for everything except Steam |
| 22:56.16 | Mr_Rabies | steam maxes out my connection, and friends of mine without crappy internet regularly get 30 MB/s |
| 22:56.16 | Stormscape | BitTorrent? u betcha. Origin? yup. Microsoft's shitty servers? you got it! |
| 22:56.25 | Stormscape | Steam? fuck you. |
| 22:56.44 | Mr_Rabies | my connection's supposedly 6Mbit/s, but i get closer to 3-4 |
| 22:57.01 | Stormscape | Also Mr_Rabies Origin definitely isn't lying because it's downloading the game in half the time it should take |
| 22:57.02 | Mr_Rabies | steam tends to be right at whatever speedtest tells me |
| 22:57.10 | Mr_Rabies | there's like |
| 22:57.30 | Mr_Rabies | literally no way to get faster than your line speed |
| 22:57.42 | Stormscape | So the most likely answer is my ISP and EA have a deal going on. |
| 22:57.57 | Stormscape | Since EA's HQ is literally a 15 minute walk from my house |
| 23:00.29 | hylje | lol net neutrality |
| 23:01.45 | Stormscape | >implying there was ever such a thing in the first place |
| 23:03.00 | tate | >implifying in irc |
| 23:03.02 | tate | oh u |
| 23:04.25 | hylje | greentext |
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| 23:06.05 | Stormscape | >trying to order Panago |
| 23:06.09 | Stormscape | >Says number is not in service |
| 23:06.09 | Stormscape | mfw |
| 23:06.12 | Stormscape | D8 |
| 23:09.32 | Stormscape | This is the message they're giving me now |
| 23:09.33 | Stormscape | "The number you have called is not a find." |
| 23:09.38 | Stormscape | What the fuck does that even mean |
| 23:10.15 | hylje | heh |
| 23:11.23 | Stormscape | maybe I'll try the 1 866 number for Panago |
| 23:11.58 | Shigy | I imagine they mean found but they looked it up in a dictionary lol |
| 23:13.19 | Stormscape | looks like 866 number worked fine |
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| 23:44.21 | Laihendi | fu hail |
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