00:00.40 | jane | Djane: BlackNet's raid has soakers for stomp and crystals :p |
00:00.52 | jane | he just found a nice spot where they can stack for crystal and get hit by stomp at the same time |
00:01.07 | Djane | jane, no such thing exists. |
00:01.11 | jane | i watched a video lol |
00:01.15 | Djane | Since the crystals CAN and DO spawn more than 25 meters away |
00:01.23 | jane | the crystals spawned close enough for it every time |
00:01.31 | Djane | On one fight |
00:01.31 | jane | ranged were yellow from the crystal, but that's not fatal most days |
00:01.33 | jane | true |
00:01.37 | Djane | And yeah |
00:01.41 | jane | but he said it, and then he showed me a kill from after he said it, so |
00:01.42 | Djane | As i stated over and over |
00:01.46 | Djane | If you outgear it |
00:01.58 | jane | it's not being outgeared, they're not red from crystal |
00:02.02 | jane | they are stacking, they are moving |
00:02.05 | Djane | If you were in appropriate gear |
00:02.08 | Djane | yellow would wipe the raid |
00:02.19 | Djane | Unless you're stood right on top of crystal, in appropriate gearing, you would die. |
00:02.22 | jane | well youve seen some of our raid member's gear...4pc t13 397s etc |
00:02.27 | jane | our rogue just got his legendary |
00:02.27 | Djane | Which is overgearing. |
00:02.42 | jane | anyway, the problem with blacknet's raid is we can't afford yellow crystals |
00:02.46 | jane | because people are dying |
00:02.51 | jane | due to crystals |
00:03.07 | Djane | Allow me to explain again how a strategy that works because you overgear the fight by a fuckton isn't a strategy again. |
00:03.11 | jane | when they're blue, so i think i might suggest an attempt exactly where his raid is tanking the two bosses and see if that affects crystal spawn |
00:03.14 | Noxy | God damn brain freeze. |
00:03.20 | jane | lol, im saying we overgear it and we still cant do it. but our players suck |
00:03.23 | Djane | jane, blacknet is a moron who gets carried hard. |
00:03.25 | jane | and so his strat doesnt work for the most part |
00:03.33 | jane | yeah, his kill was like under 6 minutes |
00:03.41 | jane | our best attempt scraped by at almost 7 |
00:03.50 | jane | that was like our highest dps of the night too |
00:04.05 | Djane | Our last kill was 4:06 |
00:04.13 | jane | so tl;dr boss positioning might be interesting and might help us, not sure anything else will |
00:04.20 | jane | because even with gear we can't do it |
00:04.23 | Djane | No, it won't. |
00:04.28 | Djane | Because people are dying to being out of position |
00:04.40 | jane | well we are wasting a little time positioning bosses SUPER far away |
00:04.40 | Djane | I can guarentee you 100% people are getting doublestomped when they shouldn't. |
00:04.50 | jane | like you know where those npcs are standing? |
00:04.56 | Djane | Yes |
00:04.56 | jane | both groups are way out in the snow |
00:05.03 | jane | we're standing next to those npcs on kohcrom's side |
00:05.05 | jane | lol |
00:05.14 | Djane | A little far away |
00:05.20 | Djane | no need to be that far. |
00:05.27 | Djane | Also |
00:05.28 | jane | i think like a shaman or someone was getting hit by stomp from morchok and kohcrom at the same tiem so we pulled them further apart |
00:05.38 | jane | so yeah, his not moving the boss after they split would help us indirectly for a different reason |
00:05.39 | Djane | for clarification, Blacknet is a person who has been kicked out of multiple guilds for being bad |
00:05.40 | Djane | Over and over. |
00:05.42 | jane | lol |
00:05.51 | Djane | This is the guy who constantly challenges standard tactics because of bullshit reason X |
00:05.56 | jane | well we also discovered our rogues really really really suck, as if the numbers weren't bad enough |
00:06.18 | jane | i ran their reforges through shadowcraft and lol'd at the dps number it was suggesting the rogues could do |
00:06.20 | Djane | As far as Finding a special spot that means you don't have to move the boss. Useful I suppose, but that won't stop you dying |
00:06.28 | jane | yeah |
00:06.35 | jane | well i passed on suggestions to healers |
00:06.46 | Djane | If you're dying to the damage output, you're dying to the damage output. |
00:06.46 | jane | but we won't know until we do another attempt |
00:06.56 | jane | well basically, prioritize the better dps :P |
00:07.01 | Djane | And since blacknets "method" will increase your damage taken |
00:07.01 | jane | some of our best dps were dying first |
00:07.09 | jane | probably because they were last in group in healbot or something, idk why |
00:07.24 | jane | that's one reason brought up by that side lol |
00:07.41 | jane | yeah we cant do yellow crystals. blue killed people. not enough healing is being done to them in time |
00:08.00 | jane | so if its something as stupid as just keeping the highest dps alive the longest, so be it |
00:08.14 | jane | if we have to sort people by where they are in the raid groups so people have less to move their cursors lolol |
00:08.28 | Djane | Or just have less fail? |
00:08.37 | Djane | Do more throughput. |
00:08.43 | jane | you'd think with that side stackiing with better healers, they'd do more |
00:08.47 | nebula169 | hey more pinks, pinks always make things better |
00:08.50 | jane | but apparently they suck at healing the right people in time |
00:08.50 | nebula169 | get* |
00:08.59 | Djane | When I as an offspec healer as a disc priest can solo heal a side in 10man |
00:09.08 | jane | yeah, my side has the gimped healers |
00:09.09 | Djane | Nobody has an excuse for not being able to heal. |
00:09.16 | jane | the one in lfr gear, the one that zones out because hes too stoned.. |
00:09.22 | Djane | my healing gear being equiv i388 or so. |
00:09.34 | nebula169 | disc and paladin can do it pretty easy, its a bit more of a struggle with druids and shamans |
00:09.35 | Djane | most of it shadow gear so reforged horrifically. |
00:09.42 | jane | the other side has the 397ish healers, the 2 feral druid 4pc bonus, the shadow priest, the disc priest.. |
00:09.46 | Djane | nebula169, incorrect, well partially. |
00:09.51 | Djane | Resto druids are pretty strong |
00:09.57 | jane | we topped the meters lol |
00:10.01 | jane | our paladins suck |
00:10.08 | BlackNet | Djane no i have yet to be kicked out of a guild for 'being bad' :) |
00:10.10 | jane | that geared paladin had to be told to use holy radiance more than once |
00:10.14 | nebula169 | ok, with our resto druid, lol |
00:10.18 | Djane | I would place it at Holydin > Holy priest > resto druid > Disc priest > resto shammy |
00:10.33 | Djane | BlackNet, and yet, here you are, 3-5 guilds later since cata started |
00:10.46 | Djane | Constantly complaining about "scrubs" whilst tanking with Darkmoon card : hurricane |
00:10.49 | Djane | Gemming pure mastery |
00:10.54 | jane | how do you switch guilds that often? |
00:10.59 | Djane | because he gets kicked out of them. |
00:11.09 | BlackNet | i dont. |
00:11.13 | Djane | Like, 2 server moves. |
00:11.17 | jane | ive only been in 3 guilds in my main. one died. one is the one im in now. the first one just had some really sexist people. :/ |
00:11.29 | jane | i feel like im not moving around at all lol |
00:11.38 | Djane | BlackNet, you are a terrible player not because you make mistakes, but because you never bother to learn from them. |
00:11.47 | BlackNet | i was in one guild forever, moved to hyjal to run with my sister and some nasty shit went down, i am now in one of the realms top guilds |
00:12.05 | jane | well whatever, he had a suggestion that would help us, indirectly or not.. we need to try it |
00:12.10 | jane | otherwise our healers suck and our dps sucks |
00:12.15 | Djane | BlackNet, yes, getting carried. |
00:12.17 | BlackNet | Djane whatever dude, im all out of fucks to give |
00:12.24 | BlackNet | welcome to ingore |
00:12.30 | Djane | I love some gore in me. |
00:12.36 | Djane | But more importantly, stop giving out bullshit advice. |
00:13.11 | Djane | I wouldn't give any fucks myself if you didn't try and tell people bullshit all the time about how shit works when it clearly doesn't,. |
00:13.27 | Djane | Like, remember how Death grip isn't a taunt? And how expertise is a defensive stat for paladins? |
00:14.15 | Djane | jane, I shit you not. Blacknet used to reforge dodge of his tanking gear for expertise. |
00:14.23 | jane | lol idk anything about tanking :( |
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00:14.32 | jane | maybe i should give a shit, trying to level a paladin |
00:14.33 | Djane | Avoidance > threat. Simple. |
00:14.40 | jane | yeah threat is so silly right now |
00:14.49 | Djane | It's been stupid since wrath. |
00:14.52 | jane | but you need some level of it |
00:14.56 | Djane | No. |
00:15.00 | Djane | You need zero threat stats. |
00:15.08 | Djane | If you need threat stats, you are bad. |
00:15.11 | Djane | You are very bad. |
00:15.21 | jane | we have a warr tank gearing for avoidance and dps that go balls out on kohcrom and get one shot cause he missed with his first attack |
00:15.22 | jane | lol |
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00:15.30 | Djane | Then you have stupid dps |
00:15.35 | jane | i guess so lol |
00:15.36 | Djane | that is not the tanks fault |
00:15.42 | Djane | You can't manage rng |
00:15.42 | Arkaen | http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/418220_10150588767067858_8672582857_9353715_1558312706_n.jpg |
00:15.50 | Djane | but the ONLY time threat matters -anything- is in the first 5 seconds of a fight |
00:15.54 | Djane | and in 25man, never. |
00:15.57 | Arkaen | what's a "threat" |
00:15.59 | jane | lol |
00:16.06 | Arkaen | is that like a tank or something |
00:16.07 | jane | god you'd be surprised. i have a level 70s healer |
00:16.10 | jane | one group had two tanks |
00:16.14 | jane | both with heirloom tank gear |
00:16.14 | Djane | Well yeah, dungeons are shit |
00:16.17 | Djane | and imbalanced to fuck |
00:16.20 | jane | and omg. neither tanked |
00:16.21 | jane | lol |
00:16.24 | Djane | But i'm talking endgame here |
00:16.28 | jane | resto druid and fire mage tanking ftw |
00:16.33 | jane | no, even leveling threat is silly as fuck |
00:16.36 | Djane | 25man raid should have minimum 1 hunter 1 rogue |
00:16.40 | jane | im not sure how people have threat issues |
00:16.54 | Djane | 2 misdirects == more than anyone else who can't ignore threat's burst dps |
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00:17.07 | Djane | I was pulling 10k as a tank, in T11 gear. |
00:17.11 | jane | i need to find better tanks |
00:17.12 | Djane | That's 50k dps effective threat. |
00:17.13 | jane | :p |
00:17.21 | Djane | Tanks now are pulling 20k dps. |
00:17.25 | Djane | That's 100k dps effective threat. |
00:17.30 | Arkaen | i do 110k dps |
00:17.30 | Djane | Find me 100k dps non gimmick fights. |
00:17.31 | Arkaen | pls halp |
00:17.34 | Djane | (protip, you won't) |
00:17.52 | Djane | And that's 20k with zero threat stats. |
00:17.59 | Djane | Any tank that has threat stats is just doing it wrong. |
00:18.25 | Djane | You obviously get some as you go, you can't avoid a small amount of hit on one piece, expertise on another, few people are rolling their BiS lists completely. |
00:18.28 | Djane | But that's what reforging is for. |
00:18.56 | Arkaen | what's a reforging |
00:19.02 | Arkaen | all my items are perfectly itemized |
00:19.02 | Arkaen | etc. |
00:19.03 | Djane | Stop trolling arcane. |
00:19.05 | jane | oh our bear tank likes to bitch about that |
00:19.12 | jane | theres an absurd amount of hit/exp on feral t13 |
00:19.17 | Djane | Yes. |
00:19.20 | Djane | Which is frustrating. |
00:19.20 | jane | not sure who the fuck it's meant for |
00:19.27 | jane | dps doesnt want it, tank doesn't want it...hmmmmm |
00:19.28 | Arkaen | its hunter gear |
00:19.29 | Djane | kitty |
00:19.32 | Djane | which nobody plays :p |
00:19.40 | jane | my main was feral dps :'( |
00:19.45 | jane | and you still dont want exp |
00:19.45 | Djane | lowest dps right now |
00:19.50 | jane | i know, that's why i went resto |
00:20.32 | jane | the sad thing is i still outdps people in my bad feral gear..my server sucks, maybe i should change guilds lol |
00:21.15 | jane | i can't part with my beautifully itemized firelands level feral gear |
00:22.38 | jane | now i can't go back to feral no matter how much i outdps people in 397 gear. no healers :< |
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01:54.27 | Laihendi | i hate it when i spend 2 and a half hours watching a movie and then realize that two of the main characters are twins and not the same person |
01:57.20 | Djane | Next up on how Laihendi is retarded. |
01:58.10 | Laihendi | well they had the same actor and were never on screen at the same time, frankly i think the director could have handled that better |
02:01.56 | Djane | What was it? |
02:03.26 | Laihendi | harry potter and the chamber of secrets |
02:09.40 | Djane | Are you talking about Fred and George? |
02:11.57 | Laihendi | who is fred |
02:19.34 | Stormscape | check it out, remove the top half and Boromir becomes first world courage wolf: http://i.imgur.com/jnCyq.jpg |
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02:55.56 | Djane | Stormscape, make webcomics not suck like 3 years ago kthx |
02:56.13 | Stormscape | One does not simply make webcomics not suck |
02:56.45 | Stormscape | Next you'll be telling me to make Ctrl+Alt+Del funny |
02:57.20 | Laihendi | xD |
02:59.09 | Djane | Stormscape, there are limits to your skills. |
02:59.11 | Djane | Even you. |
02:59.41 | Stormscape | I still can't believe Reality 38 for Goblins is |
02:59.42 | Stormscape | NotWalter |
03:00.09 | Stormscape | We haven't seen NotWalter for like, 5 years |
03:03.26 | Djane | What the fuck is reality 48 |
03:03.28 | Djane | 38 |
03:04.42 | Djane | Sidenote : My girlfriend read reddit and discovered the series of cats with OFF switches pictures |
03:05.06 | Djane | Which means she spent 2 hours yesterday picking up my cat by the scruff of it's neck and watching it melt into a puddle on her lap then stroking it whilst giggling hysterically |
03:05.15 | Djane | And everytime the cat went to move, she'd just grab it again. |
03:06.10 | Stormscape | Djane, http://www.goblinscomic.com/ |
03:06.21 | Stormscape | Goblins is an awesome comic and if you don't read it you're an asshole |
03:06.25 | Djane | I know what goblins is |
03:06.28 | Djane | although I haven't read it in a while |
03:06.38 | Djane | Not since errr, christ I don't know |
03:06.45 | Djane | I stopped reading it the same time I stopped reading LFG and OOTS |
03:06.48 | Stormscape | tl;dr Minmax found a new sword and promptly broke it |
03:07.33 | Djane | But of course. |
03:07.47 | Stormscape | it's now oblivion itself |
03:07.54 | Stormscape | it cannot be affected by anything except Minmax |
03:07.57 | Stormscape | not even time or gravity |
03:07.59 | Djane | Yeah I haven't read Goblins since book 3 |
03:08.02 | Mr_Rabies | that comic is almost as tldr as Tim B^Uckley's work |
03:08.17 | Stormscape | Mr_Rabies, yeah but at least it's interesting |
03:08.22 | Stormscape | unlike B^Uckley's stuff |
03:08.46 | Djane | I don't think up arrow is his middle name |
03:08.51 | Djane | Stormscape, also, oots is better than goblins |
03:08.53 | Stormscape | B^U |
03:08.56 | Mr_Rabies | it's not my kind of comic |
03:08.57 | Stormscape | as in the default Buckley face |
03:09.06 | Stormscape | everybody has that expression |
03:09.13 | Djane | Mr_Rabies, you need to play more DnD |
03:09.24 | Stormscape | Yeah I still read OOTS |
03:09.32 | Mr_Rabies | i like comics with expressive art |
03:09.38 | Stormscape | One day, one day, we'll figure out V's gender |
03:09.46 | Mr_Rabies | the art seems mostly just to be there to fill the small amount of space the speech bubbles don't |
03:09.57 | Djane | Stormscape, lies. |
03:09.59 | Djane | Also |
03:10.06 | Djane | Nobody's read CAD since the miscarriage fiasco. |
03:11.06 | Stormscape | I still read it on the offchance he manages to one day make a funny comic |
03:11.19 | Djane | Reread the archives |
03:11.23 | Djane | You know what you'll find? |
03:11.25 | Djane | Not funny |
03:11.30 | Stormscape | Indeed |
03:11.33 | Djane | But the realisation that he was never funny |
03:11.37 | Djane | Merely, accurate. |
03:11.41 | Djane | Sometimes |
03:11.49 | Stormscape | The only good storyline ever was when Ethan started going crazy from no video games |
03:11.54 | Stormscape | and that was like, 10 comics |
03:11.57 | Djane | Yes. |
03:12.10 | Stormscape | and that was 4 years ago |
03:12.12 | Djane | Ever read Dresden Codak? |
03:12.14 | Stormscape | or was it more |
03:12.18 | Stormscape | shit it was more |
03:12.20 | Stormscape | it was 2006 |
03:12.22 | Stormscape | 6 years ago |
03:12.37 | Stormscape | You know what comic is always good |
03:12.41 | Stormscape | El Goonish Shive |
03:12.43 | Laihendi | i like reading archie while my mom checks out groceries |
03:12.43 | Mr_Rabies | i pretty much only read manga and penny arcade nowadays |
03:12.45 | Stormscape | Also no never heard of Dresden Codak |
03:12.56 | Djane | Stormscape, ok. Well, Dresden Codak is HELLA highbrow shit. |
03:13.07 | Djane | http://dresdencodak.com/2007/02/08/pom/ : |
03:13.09 | Stormscape | Even more than Hark! A vagrant? |
03:13.10 | Djane | Yes. |
03:13.13 | Mr_Rabies | every few months i'll go and catch up on oglaf, but that's about it |
03:13.33 | Djane | Stormscape, read that link, and the entire Hob line. Do it now. It will take you about 30 minutes |
03:13.34 | Stormscape | Oglaf is updated so infrequently going more than every 6 months is just disappointment |
03:13.37 | Djane | Get back to me when you're done. |
03:14.38 | Stormscape | did Victor Hugo really do that? |
03:15.58 | Djane | Yes |
03:16.49 | Mr_Rabies | this is where it's at, though |
03:16.51 | Mr_Rabies | http://6.p.s.mfcdn.net/store/manga/7254/02-003.0/compressed/cgetter_robo_02_198.jpg |
03:16.53 | Stormscape | that's AWESOME |
03:17.02 | Mr_Rabies | those are fourth graders i believe |
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03:23.31 | Djane | Stormscape, what page are you on now? |
03:23.45 | Stormscape | 15 |
03:23.59 | Djane | Heeee |
03:24.27 | Djane | I -really- want a Historical Preenactment society hoodie |
03:30.54 | Stormscape | Djane, that was so weird |
03:31.02 | Djane | But incredible. |
03:31.16 | Stormscape | indeed |
03:31.34 | Djane | transhumanism, philosophy, the ethical rammifications of inevitable strong A.I wrapped up in a human story about personal growth symbolising the evolution of mankind through relationships. |
03:31.44 | Djane | Also doing science to it. |
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03:32.33 | Djane | http://dresdencodak.com/2009/04/19/onald-creely/ : This one is the shits too |
03:32.33 | Stormscape | oh god it took buddy nearly 2 years to write that? I would have gone mad waiting for new pages |
03:34.38 | Djane | Yes |
03:34.41 | Djane | Yes it fucking did. |
03:35.10 | Djane | Dresden Codak is probably my favourite webcomic in existance |
03:35.20 | Djane | But fuck me I check it once ever 3 months and that's it. |
03:35.24 | Djane | Because otherwise i rage. |
03:36.06 | Stormscape | Sparkling Generation Valkyrie Yuuki has been making me rage |
03:36.08 | Stormscape | for years |
03:36.51 | Djane | Also. |
03:36.56 | Laihendi | this show fucking killed off another character like 2 episodes after i starting liking him. what the fuck |
03:36.58 | Djane | http://dresdencodak.com/2009/09/07/the-sleepwalkers/ : I NEED THIS TO BE A REAL TV SHOW OR SOMETHING. |
03:39.06 | Djane | Also Stormscape please tell me you've read and read Gunnerkrigg court? |
03:39.16 | Stormscape | Obviously |
03:39.33 | Djane | Okay good |
03:39.35 | Stormscape | I still think Jones is a robot |
03:39.36 | Djane | cancel the nukes guis |
03:39.39 | Djane | Of course she is. |
03:39.51 | Stormscape | Tim is a master tease |
03:39.56 | Stormscape | Annie knows what she is |
03:39.58 | Stormscape | we still don't |
03:39.59 | Djane | Reynardine > everyone. |
03:40.05 | Stormscape | fuck yeah Reynard |
03:40.25 | Djane | Wondermark? |
03:41.11 | Stormscape | I loved that scene where Jones just punches a hole in the wall |
03:41.13 | Stormscape | Like it's nothing |
03:41.21 | Stormscape | Then she's all |
03:41.24 | Stormscape | IM NOT A ROBOT |
03:41.35 | Stormscape | What a lying robot |
03:41.55 | Stormscape | Djane I hope you read Subnormality |
03:41.55 | Stormscape | :D |
03:42.04 | Djane | I used too |
03:42.21 | Djane | But i got bored of the third act "and then she threatens to eat people" reveal |
03:42.33 | Stormscape | It usually takes me 3 tries to get through any given comic |
03:42.38 | Djane | http://wondermark.com/796/ |
03:42.40 | Stormscape | so many words |
03:43.50 | blademeld | Djane: there are so many free cats in the newspaper |
03:44.03 | blademeld | that seems unnecessary |
03:44.09 | Stormscape | oh man new Widdershins |
03:44.14 | Stormscape | I'm sad Darken ended, I loved Gort |
03:44.19 | Stormscape | but at least I have Widdershins |
03:44.25 | Djane | Stormscape, oh, and that comic about the cats in prohibition america |
03:44.28 | blademeld | Stormscape: how is your love life going? |
03:44.32 | Djane | Forget it's name now because you only check it like once a year |
03:44.35 | Stormscape | blade wat |
03:44.41 | blademeld | dat |
03:45.06 | Djane | Fuck yeah Lackadaisy |
03:45.10 | Djane | You read lackadaisy right? |
03:45.23 | Stormscape | Nope |
03:45.29 | Djane | Right, hang on. |
03:45.30 | Stormscape | I cleaned out my comics list and now there's only like |
03:45.30 | Stormscape | 30 |
03:45.31 | blademeld | no |
03:45.35 | Stormscape | because I removed the unfunny ones |
03:45.41 | Djane | http://lackadaisycats.com/comic.php?comicid=1 |
03:45.43 | Djane | Go there |
03:45.44 | Djane | Enjoy |
03:45.48 | Djane | It will take you a few hours to read through |
03:45.52 | Djane | and then you can ignore it for a year |
03:46.41 | Stormscape | something about comics exclusively made up of talking animals |
03:46.43 | Stormscape | kinda disturbs me |
03:49.00 | Stormscape | You know what I like but updates rarely |
03:49.03 | Stormscape | AWESOME HOSPITAL |
03:50.29 | Stormscape | heh, I think NCIX is desperate to get rid of stock. WD Velociraptors on sale, 150GB for $120 |
03:59.24 | Lugburz | Stormscape: that soundsl ike a decent dleal |
03:59.45 | Stormscape | Except for the part where they make a lot of noise for not a lot of performance gain |
04:00.22 | Lugburz | :/ |
04:09.59 | fewyn | yellow green red, which one are you supposed to kill in lfr? |
04:10.03 | fewyn | i assumed yellow |
04:10.11 | fewyn | but everyone in the raid i syelling green |
04:10.29 | fewyn | people retarded |
04:12.59 | fewyn | no one? |
04:14.28 | Djane | fewyn, in lfr you would kill red |
04:14.32 | Djane | That is |
04:14.40 | Djane | if you wanted to lower the damage the most, red is what you kill |
04:14.44 | Djane | what gets -killed- is green |
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05:08.01 | blademeld | just spent 4.5k on embersilk |
05:08.02 | blademeld | lol |
05:08.11 | blademeld | goddamn tailoring |
05:12.06 | raspy | weee |
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05:51.25 | Lugburz | \o/ |
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06:09.14 | tate | wowhead working fine? |
06:09.17 | tate | nvm |
06:13.31 | Lugburz | meh |
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13:55.18 | raspy | hmmm |
13:56.12 | twsx | no. |
13:56.39 | raspy | i fergot what lvl the old heirlooms worked until |
13:56.48 | twsx | 80 |
13:56.55 | BlackNet | anyone know off hand what the subscriber number was in lk days? |
13:57.04 | raspy | they quit at 80 or until ya hit 81 |
13:57.05 | BlackNet | didnt' it peak at somethign like 14mil or 17mil? |
13:57.13 | twsx | wut |
13:57.17 | raspy | 14 |
13:57.21 | twsx | BlackNet: no. 12m was the peak. |
13:57.22 | twsx | lies |
13:57.31 | BlackNet | 12mil? thought i was 14 |
13:57.33 | BlackNet | it |
13:57.35 | twsx | or am i that wrong? |
13:57.53 | BlackNet | either way they are down to 10 mil now |
13:57.57 | twsx | they started crying about all the losses when they dropped from 12 to 11.4 |
13:58.07 | twsx | so 14 seems off. but i cant be sure. |
13:58.28 | BlackNet | i was on the phone with them a few weeks ago and the guy mentioned 10 million transactions per month |
13:58.47 | twsx | yeah, they're 10.something now. |
13:58.48 | BlackNet | now there is a blurb on wowhead about it and it shows 10 mil as well |
13:59.09 | BlackNet | that's still a 20% loss |
13:59.25 | twsx | 12 to 10 is not 20% :p |
13:59.33 | BlackNet | 10/12 |
13:59.46 | BlackNet | 0.83 |
13:59.55 | twsx | aye |
13:59.56 | BlackNet | ok so 16.6% loss |
14:00.01 | twsx | :) |
14:00.26 | BlackNet | close enough to call it 20% |
14:00.32 | twsx | people act as if wow was dying. it's hilarious. |
14:00.57 | BlackNet | so saying almost a quarter make it sound very bad no? |
14:01.58 | BlackNet | here's an article posted in nov. says they lost 2 mil in one year |
14:03.56 | BlackNet | ah ha |
14:03.57 | BlackNet | On October 7, 2010 World of Warcraft reached a subscriber base of over 12 million players |
14:04.04 | twsx | well, they lost those 2. something mil within 3 semesters |
14:04.26 | twsx | but i seriously doubt we'll see the end of wow within the next 2-3 years. |
14:04.31 | BlackNet | Since May 2011, the number of players playing had decreased by 10% from 11.4 million to 10.3 million. |
14:04.43 | BlackNet | am wondering what the loss/gain was from nov to may |
14:05.53 | BlackNet | i know many realms have taken a beating since the downturn |
14:07.25 | twsx | they are still crowded enough. |
14:07.35 | BlackNet | many are |
14:07.51 | twsx | SWTOR has way less people per realm, and i can't imagine that SWTOR needs less hardware resources per player than wow does. |
14:13.42 | hylje | no players |
14:14.31 | twsx | ? |
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14:22.35 | BlackNet | <PROTECTED> |
14:24.23 | twsx | True. |
14:24.42 | BlackNet | what are the raid group sizes there |
14:25.45 | Lienne | 8/16 |
14:27.32 | BlackNet | so 8 vs 10, 16 vs 25 |
14:27.37 | BlackNet | pretty big difference there |
14:30.04 | BlackNet | least it's uniform and not weighted for 25m |
14:32.26 | twsx | Though considering that there are ridiculously more 10 man noobs than 25man raids in WoW, and I see probably more 16 man raids than 8 mans (at least on my realm), i'm not sure how much of a difference that really is. |
14:33.47 | twsx | Well, is it? |
14:33.49 | BlackNet | well performance wise on slower/older pc's 16 would be not that much worse than 10 |
14:34.04 | hylje | swtor doesn't have combat logs |
14:34.12 | twsx | In WoW 10/25 is supposed to be the same as well, and it failed miserably. |
14:34.14 | hylje | good luck weeding out scrubs with no dps |
14:34.42 | twsx | That is an issue. It's coming though. |
14:35.02 | twsx | Combat log parsing, i mean. |
14:35.36 | twsx | They did however mention that user made UI modifications won't be there for a while, so perhaps we'll see some sort of penis meters in the standard UI. |
14:37.42 | hylje | yeaaaaaah |
14:37.49 | hylje | a penis that rises the more DIPS you get |
14:38.17 | twsx | hmm. is that a German thing? i guess it is. we commonly call damage meters "penismeters". |
14:42.18 | BlackNet | combat logs also tells you who is fucking up mechanics |
14:42.49 | twsx | sure. but i would say the #1 use is still e-peen measuring. |
14:50.06 | BlackNet | i see much more than that |
14:51.39 | BlackNet | comparing your class/spec with others of the same class/spec to see how well you are doing is not epeen |
14:52.16 | twsx | Sure. |
14:52.47 | twsx | Nevertheless, the most common use I'd say is still morons trying to be raid/party-wide #1 and then gloating about it. |
14:53.49 | Djane | twsx, that depends entirely on the context. |
14:54.02 | Djane | Real raid groups don't care who's top |
14:54.05 | Djane | Only who's bottom and why. |
14:54.23 | twsx | You guys don't get what I'm saying. |
14:54.37 | twsx | I'm saying it's the most commonly used thing, not the thing it should be used for. |
14:54.58 | Djane | and commonly only refers to particularly context. |
14:55.06 | Djane | In this context, it is commonly used for |
14:55.08 | Djane | in that context |
14:55.09 | Djane | etc |
15:00.29 | robotigger | Good thing noone in a real raid is trying to rank on WoL then :P |
15:00.45 | twsx | :) |
15:00.59 | BlackNet | imagine that |
15:01.41 | robotigger | pft, feeding a legendary mage all possible buffs & letting him stay in the bad stuff = what real raids do |
15:03.14 | robotigger | but what do I know, I'm just a slacker |
15:03.23 | twsx | ! |
15:03.38 | Djane | Well sometimes, but mostly you just ragequit hilariously. |
15:03.38 | twsx | slackerslackerslackerslackerslackerslacker |
15:03.40 | twsx | hurrr |
15:04.47 | robotigger | yeah |
15:15.36 | twsx | I'm bored. Can anyone recommend any cool Flash games or something? :| |
15:15.48 | Djane | kongregate.com |
15:15.51 | Ackis | facebook.com |
15:16.18 | twsx | Ackis: I've never tried Farmville.. Is it worth it? :| |
15:16.27 | Ackis | IMO no |
15:16.30 | robotigger | noes |
15:16.34 | Ackis | there are 1000's of other games on there however |
15:16.35 | robotigger | imo you're better off playing ARL |
15:16.40 | Ackis | :P |
15:16.49 | robotigger | even if that _will_ take over your life and golds |
15:16.58 | twsx | Yeah, but games on FB will post shit to my wall, aye? |
15:17.06 | Ackis | you can disable that |
15:17.12 | robotigger | you can usually set, yeah |
15:17.16 | twsx | That would be bad, I'm at work, and my boss is a FB friend. :P |
15:17.29 | robotigger | tried CivWorld for about 5 minutes, then gave up and went back to the real thing |
15:18.55 | twsx | Screw it i'll just play desktop tower defense.. |
15:19.07 | robotigger | :P |
15:19.35 | robotigger | I just want my new credit card, so I can grab Civ5 while there's a decent offer on :< |
15:33.41 | murmur | not sure I can recommend Civ5 - broken in so many ways still :( |
15:34.23 | hylje | not too broken i don't think |
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15:36.51 | robotigger | hmpf |
15:38.08 | murmur | hylje: in single player, on large/busy maps, the lag is incredible -- and on multiplayer, out-of-sync happens far too often |
15:39.04 | murmur | hylje: and the top-end of the ladder ito gameplay, it boils down to if/when/how many AI players rush you in the first 50 turns - once you're past that, the game is quite boring to win |
15:39.19 | murmur | Civ4 BTS is much more enjoyable |
15:39.25 | robotigger | hm |
15:39.28 | robotigger | might as well get that then |
15:39.33 | Lienne | I bought Civ 5 on the day it came out, played it on and off for a month, and haven't touched it since |
15:39.34 | robotigger | for some reason I only got Warlords |
15:39.40 | Lienne | :< |
15:39.41 | Lienne | Civ 4 was so much fun |
15:39.42 | Lienne | I miss it |
15:39.47 | Lienne | I should play it again |
15:39.53 | robotigger | my only issue is with Barbarians |
15:40.20 | Lienne | in Civ 4? |
15:40.22 | robotigger | since I prefer playing on huge maps, I get swamped by them from about 200ad onwards |
15:40.28 | Lienne | Ah |
15:40.30 | hylje | raging barbarians |
15:40.33 | Lienne | Hehe |
15:40.37 | Lienne | Yeah |
15:41.18 | Lienne | barbarian musketmen are funny |
15:41.26 | Lienne | and the like |
15:42.00 | hylje | barbs only disappear when all land is occupied by a civ |
15:42.19 | robotigger | yeah |
15:42.35 | Lienne | huge maps makes it hard though |
15:42.38 | robotigger | but massive expansionism early on = crippled economy |
15:42.40 | Lienne | unless you beeline for communism |
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17:34.37 | hylje | because lol |
17:40.10 | g0urra | leaving what? |
17:40.54 | Laihendi | i was talking about rose and anmity leaving irc but i just noticed rose came back so nvm |
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