IRC log for #wowhead on 20120223

00:00.40janeDjane: BlackNet's raid has soakers for stomp and crystals :p
00:00.52janehe just found a nice spot where they can stack for crystal and get hit by stomp at the same time
00:01.07Djanejane, no such thing exists.
00:01.11janei watched a video lol
00:01.15DjaneSince the crystals CAN and DO spawn more than 25 meters away
00:01.23janethe crystals spawned close enough for it every time
00:01.31DjaneOn one fight
00:01.31janeranged were yellow from the crystal, but that's not fatal most days
00:01.33janetrue
00:01.37DjaneAnd yeah
00:01.41janebut he said it, and then he showed me a kill from after he said it, so
00:01.42DjaneAs i stated over and over
00:01.46DjaneIf you outgear it
00:01.58janeit's not being outgeared, they're not red from crystal
00:02.02janethey are stacking, they are moving
00:02.05DjaneIf you were in appropriate gear
00:02.08Djaneyellow would wipe the raid
00:02.19DjaneUnless you're stood right on top of crystal, in appropriate gearing, you would die.
00:02.22janewell youve seen some of our raid member's gear...4pc t13 397s etc
00:02.27janeour rogue just got his legendary
00:02.27DjaneWhich is overgearing.
00:02.42janeanyway, the problem with blacknet's raid is we can't afford yellow crystals
00:02.46janebecause people are dying
00:02.51janedue to crystals
00:03.07DjaneAllow me to explain again how  a strategy that works because you overgear the fight by a fuckton isn't a strategy again.
00:03.11janewhen they're blue, so i think i might suggest an attempt exactly where his raid is tanking the two bosses and see if that affects crystal spawn
00:03.14NoxyGod damn brain freeze.
00:03.20janelol, im saying we overgear it and we still cant do it. but our players suck
00:03.23Djanejane, blacknet is a moron who gets carried hard.
00:03.25janeand so his strat doesnt work for the most part
00:03.33janeyeah, his kill was like under 6 minutes
00:03.41janeour best attempt scraped by at almost 7
00:03.50janethat was like our highest dps of the night too
00:04.05DjaneOur last kill was 4:06
00:04.13janeso tl;dr boss positioning might be interesting and might help us, not sure anything else will
00:04.20janebecause even with gear we can't do it
00:04.23DjaneNo, it won't.
00:04.28DjaneBecause people are dying to being out of position
00:04.40janewell we are wasting a little time positioning bosses SUPER far away
00:04.40DjaneI can guarentee you 100% people are getting doublestomped when they shouldn't.
00:04.50janelike you know where those npcs are standing?
00:04.56DjaneYes
00:04.56janeboth groups are way out in the snow
00:05.03janewe're standing next to those npcs on kohcrom's side
00:05.05janelol
00:05.14DjaneA little far away
00:05.20Djaneno need to be that far.
00:05.27DjaneAlso
00:05.28janei think like a shaman or someone was getting hit by stomp from morchok and kohcrom at the same tiem so we pulled them further apart
00:05.38janeso yeah, his not moving the boss after they split would help us indirectly for a different reason
00:05.39Djanefor clarification, Blacknet is a person who has been kicked out of multiple guilds for being bad
00:05.40DjaneOver and over.
00:05.42janelol
00:05.51DjaneThis is the guy who constantly challenges standard tactics because of bullshit reason X
00:05.56janewell we also discovered our rogues really really really suck, as if the numbers weren't bad enough
00:06.18janei ran their reforges through shadowcraft and lol'd at the dps number it was suggesting the rogues could do
00:06.20DjaneAs far as Finding a special spot that means you don't have to move the boss. Useful I suppose, but that won't stop you dying
00:06.28janeyeah
00:06.35janewell i passed on suggestions to healers
00:06.46DjaneIf you're dying to the damage output, you're dying to the damage output.
00:06.46janebut we won't know until we do another attempt
00:06.56janewell basically, prioritize the better dps :P
00:07.01DjaneAnd since blacknets "method" will increase your damage taken
00:07.01janesome of our best dps were dying first
00:07.09janeprobably because they were last in group in healbot or something, idk why
00:07.24janethat's one reason brought up by that side lol
00:07.41janeyeah we cant do yellow crystals. blue killed people. not enough healing is being done to them in time
00:08.00janeso if its something as stupid as just keeping the highest dps alive the longest, so be it
00:08.14janeif we have to sort people by where they are in the raid groups so people have less to move their cursors lolol
00:08.28DjaneOr just have less fail?
00:08.37DjaneDo more throughput.
00:08.43janeyou'd think with that side stackiing with better healers, they'd do more
00:08.47nebula169hey more pinks, pinks always make things better
00:08.50janebut apparently they suck at healing the right people in time
00:08.50nebula169get*
00:08.59DjaneWhen I as an offspec healer as a disc priest can solo heal a side in 10man
00:09.08janeyeah, my side has the gimped healers
00:09.09DjaneNobody has an excuse for not being able to heal.
00:09.16janethe one in lfr gear, the one that zones out because hes too stoned..
00:09.22Djanemy healing gear being equiv i388 or so.
00:09.34nebula169disc and paladin can do it pretty easy, its a bit more of a struggle with druids and shamans
00:09.35Djanemost of it shadow gear so reforged horrifically.
00:09.42janethe other side has the 397ish healers, the 2 feral druid 4pc bonus, the shadow priest, the disc priest..
00:09.46Djanenebula169, incorrect, well partially.
00:09.51DjaneResto druids are pretty strong
00:09.57janewe topped the meters lol
00:10.01janeour paladins suck
00:10.08BlackNetDjane no i have yet to be kicked out of a guild for 'being bad' :)
00:10.10janethat geared paladin had to be told to use holy radiance more than once
00:10.14nebula169ok, with our resto druid, lol
00:10.18DjaneI would place it at Holydin > Holy priest > resto druid > Disc priest > resto shammy
00:10.33DjaneBlackNet, and yet, here you are, 3-5 guilds later since cata started
00:10.46DjaneConstantly complaining about "scrubs" whilst tanking with Darkmoon card : hurricane
00:10.49DjaneGemming pure mastery
00:10.54janehow do you switch guilds that often?
00:10.59Djanebecause he gets kicked out of them.
00:11.09BlackNeti dont.
00:11.13DjaneLike, 2 server moves.
00:11.17janeive only been in 3 guilds in my main. one died. one is the one im in now. the first one just had some really sexist people. :/
00:11.29janei feel like im not moving around at all lol
00:11.38DjaneBlackNet, you are a terrible player not because you make mistakes, but because you never bother to learn from them.
00:11.47BlackNeti was in one guild forever, moved to hyjal to run with my sister and some nasty shit went down, i am now in one of the realms top guilds
00:12.05janewell whatever, he had a suggestion that would help us, indirectly or not.. we need to try it
00:12.10janeotherwise our healers suck and our dps sucks
00:12.15DjaneBlackNet, yes, getting carried.
00:12.17BlackNetDjane whatever dude, im all out of fucks to give
00:12.24BlackNetwelcome to ingore
00:12.30DjaneI love some gore in me.
00:12.36DjaneBut more importantly, stop giving out bullshit advice.
00:13.11DjaneI wouldn't give any fucks myself if you didn't try and tell people bullshit all the time about how shit works when it clearly doesn't,.
00:13.27DjaneLike, remember how Death grip isn't a taunt? And how expertise is a defensive stat for paladins?
00:14.15Djanejane, I shit you not. Blacknet used to reforge dodge of his tanking gear for expertise.
00:14.23janelol idk anything about tanking :(
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00:14.32janemaybe i should give a shit, trying to level a paladin
00:14.33DjaneAvoidance > threat. Simple.
00:14.40janeyeah threat is so silly right now
00:14.49DjaneIt's been stupid since wrath.
00:14.52janebut you need some level of it
00:14.56DjaneNo.
00:15.00DjaneYou need zero threat stats.
00:15.08DjaneIf you need threat stats, you are bad.
00:15.11DjaneYou are very bad.
00:15.21janewe have a warr tank gearing for avoidance and dps that go balls out on kohcrom and get one shot cause he missed with his first attack
00:15.22janelol
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00:15.30DjaneThen you have stupid dps
00:15.35janei guess so lol
00:15.36Djanethat is not the tanks fault
00:15.42DjaneYou can't manage rng
00:15.42Arkaenhttp://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/418220_10150588767067858_8672582857_9353715_1558312706_n.jpg
00:15.50Djanebut the ONLY time threat matters -anything- is in the first 5 seconds of a fight
00:15.54Djaneand in 25man, never.
00:15.57Arkaenwhat's a "threat"
00:15.59janelol
00:16.06Arkaenis that like a tank or something
00:16.07janegod you'd be surprised. i have a level 70s healer
00:16.10janeone group had two tanks
00:16.14janeboth with heirloom tank gear
00:16.14DjaneWell yeah, dungeons are shit
00:16.17Djaneand imbalanced to fuck
00:16.20janeand omg. neither tanked
00:16.21janelol
00:16.24DjaneBut i'm talking endgame here
00:16.28janeresto druid and fire mage tanking ftw
00:16.33janeno, even leveling threat is silly as fuck
00:16.36Djane25man raid should have minimum 1 hunter 1 rogue
00:16.40janeim not sure how people have threat issues
00:16.54Djane2 misdirects == more than anyone else who can't ignore threat's burst dps
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00:17.07DjaneI was pulling 10k as a tank, in T11 gear.
00:17.11janei need to find better tanks
00:17.12DjaneThat's 50k dps effective threat.
00:17.13jane:p
00:17.21DjaneTanks now are pulling 20k dps.
00:17.25DjaneThat's 100k dps effective threat.
00:17.30Arkaeni do 110k dps
00:17.30DjaneFind me 100k dps non gimmick fights.
00:17.31Arkaenpls halp
00:17.34Djane(protip, you won't)
00:17.52DjaneAnd that's 20k with zero threat stats.
00:17.59DjaneAny tank that has threat stats is just doing it wrong.
00:18.25DjaneYou obviously get some as you go, you can't avoid a small amount of hit on one piece, expertise on another, few people are rolling their BiS lists completely.
00:18.28DjaneBut that's what reforging is for.
00:18.56Arkaenwhat's a reforging
00:19.02Arkaenall my items are perfectly itemized
00:19.02Arkaenetc.
00:19.03DjaneStop trolling arcane.
00:19.05janeoh our bear tank likes to bitch about that
00:19.12janetheres an absurd amount of hit/exp on feral t13
00:19.17DjaneYes.
00:19.20DjaneWhich is frustrating.
00:19.20janenot sure who the fuck it's meant for
00:19.27janedps doesnt want it, tank doesn't want it...hmmmmm
00:19.28Arkaenits hunter gear
00:19.29Djanekitty
00:19.32Djanewhich nobody plays :p
00:19.40janemy main was feral dps :'(
00:19.45janeand you still dont want exp
00:19.45Djanelowest dps right now
00:19.50janei know, that's why i went resto
00:20.32janethe sad thing is i still outdps people in my bad feral gear..my server sucks, maybe i should change guilds lol
00:21.15janei can't part with my beautifully itemized firelands level feral gear
00:22.38janenow i can't go back to feral no matter how much i outdps people in 397 gear. no healers :<
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01:54.27Laihendii hate it when i spend 2 and a half hours watching a movie and then realize that two of the main characters are twins and not the same person
01:57.20DjaneNext up on how Laihendi is retarded.
01:58.10Laihendiwell they had the same actor and were never on screen at the same time, frankly i think the director could have handled that better
02:01.56DjaneWhat was it?
02:03.26Laihendiharry potter and the chamber of secrets
02:09.40DjaneAre you talking about Fred and George?
02:11.57Laihendiwho is fred
02:19.34Stormscapecheck it out, remove the top half and Boromir becomes first world courage wolf: http://i.imgur.com/jnCyq.jpg
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02:55.56DjaneStormscape, make webcomics not suck like 3 years ago kthx
02:56.13StormscapeOne does not simply make webcomics not suck
02:56.45StormscapeNext you'll be telling me to make Ctrl+Alt+Del funny
02:57.20LaihendixD
02:59.09DjaneStormscape, there are limits to your skills.
02:59.11DjaneEven you.
02:59.41StormscapeI still can't believe Reality 38 for Goblins is
02:59.42StormscapeNotWalter
03:00.09StormscapeWe haven't seen NotWalter for like, 5 years
03:03.26DjaneWhat the fuck is reality 48
03:03.28Djane38
03:04.42DjaneSidenote : My girlfriend read reddit and discovered the series of cats with OFF switches pictures
03:05.06DjaneWhich means she spent 2 hours yesterday picking up my cat by the scruff of it's neck and watching it melt into a puddle on her lap then stroking it whilst giggling hysterically
03:05.15DjaneAnd everytime the cat went to move, she'd just grab it again.
03:06.10StormscapeDjane, http://www.goblinscomic.com/
03:06.21StormscapeGoblins is an awesome comic and if you don't read it you're an asshole
03:06.25DjaneI know what goblins is
03:06.28Djanealthough I haven't read it in a while
03:06.38DjaneNot since errr, christ I don't know
03:06.45DjaneI stopped reading it the same time I stopped reading LFG and OOTS
03:06.48Stormscapetl;dr Minmax found a new sword and promptly broke it
03:07.33DjaneBut of course.
03:07.47Stormscapeit's now oblivion itself
03:07.54Stormscapeit cannot be affected by anything except Minmax
03:07.57Stormscapenot even time or gravity
03:07.59DjaneYeah I haven't read Goblins since book 3
03:08.02Mr_Rabiesthat comic is almost as tldr as Tim B^Uckley's work
03:08.17StormscapeMr_Rabies, yeah but at least it's interesting
03:08.22Stormscapeunlike B^Uckley's stuff
03:08.46DjaneI don't think up arrow is his middle name
03:08.51DjaneStormscape, also, oots is better than goblins
03:08.53StormscapeB^U
03:08.56Mr_Rabiesit's not my kind of comic
03:08.57Stormscapeas in the default Buckley face
03:09.06Stormscapeeverybody has that expression
03:09.13DjaneMr_Rabies, you need to play more DnD
03:09.24StormscapeYeah I still read OOTS
03:09.32Mr_Rabiesi like comics with expressive art
03:09.38StormscapeOne day, one day, we'll figure out V's gender
03:09.46Mr_Rabiesthe art seems mostly just to be there to fill the small amount of space the speech bubbles don't
03:09.57DjaneStormscape, lies.
03:09.59DjaneAlso
03:10.06DjaneNobody's read CAD since the miscarriage fiasco.
03:11.06StormscapeI still read it on the offchance he manages to one day make a funny comic
03:11.19DjaneReread the archives
03:11.23DjaneYou know what you'll find?
03:11.25DjaneNot funny
03:11.30StormscapeIndeed
03:11.33DjaneBut the realisation that he was never funny
03:11.37DjaneMerely, accurate.
03:11.41DjaneSometimes
03:11.49StormscapeThe only good storyline ever was when Ethan started going crazy from no video games
03:11.54Stormscapeand that was like, 10 comics
03:11.57DjaneYes.
03:12.10Stormscapeand that was 4 years ago
03:12.12DjaneEver read Dresden Codak?
03:12.14Stormscapeor was it more
03:12.18Stormscapeshit it was more
03:12.20Stormscapeit was 2006
03:12.22Stormscape6 years ago
03:12.37StormscapeYou know what comic is always good
03:12.41StormscapeEl Goonish Shive
03:12.43Laihendii like reading archie while my mom checks out groceries
03:12.43Mr_Rabiesi pretty much only read manga and penny arcade nowadays
03:12.45StormscapeAlso no never heard of Dresden Codak
03:12.56DjaneStormscape, ok. Well, Dresden Codak is HELLA highbrow shit.
03:13.07Djanehttp://dresdencodak.com/2007/02/08/pom/ :
03:13.09StormscapeEven more than Hark! A vagrant?
03:13.10DjaneYes.
03:13.13Mr_Rabiesevery few months i'll go and catch up on oglaf, but that's about it
03:13.33DjaneStormscape, read that link, and the entire Hob line. Do it now. It will take you about 30 minutes
03:13.34StormscapeOglaf is updated so infrequently going more than every 6 months is just disappointment
03:13.37DjaneGet back to me when you're done.
03:14.38Stormscapedid Victor Hugo really do that?
03:15.58DjaneYes
03:16.49Mr_Rabiesthis is where it's at, though
03:16.51Mr_Rabieshttp://6.p.s.mfcdn.net/store/manga/7254/02-003.0/compressed/cgetter_robo_02_198.jpg
03:16.53Stormscapethat's AWESOME
03:17.02Mr_Rabiesthose are fourth graders i believe
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03:23.31DjaneStormscape, what page are you on now?
03:23.45Stormscape15
03:23.59DjaneHeeee
03:24.27DjaneI -really- want a Historical Preenactment society hoodie
03:30.54StormscapeDjane, that was so weird
03:31.02DjaneBut incredible.
03:31.16Stormscapeindeed
03:31.34Djanetranshumanism, philosophy, the ethical rammifications of inevitable strong A.I wrapped up in a human story about personal growth symbolising the evolution of mankind through relationships.
03:31.44DjaneAlso doing science to it.
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03:32.33Djanehttp://dresdencodak.com/2009/04/19/onald-creely/ : This one is the shits too
03:32.33Stormscapeoh god it took buddy nearly 2 years to write that? I would have gone mad waiting for new pages
03:34.38DjaneYes
03:34.41DjaneYes it fucking did.
03:35.10DjaneDresden Codak is probably my favourite webcomic in existance
03:35.20DjaneBut fuck me I check it once ever 3 months and that's it.
03:35.24DjaneBecause otherwise i rage.
03:36.06StormscapeSparkling Generation Valkyrie Yuuki has been making me rage
03:36.08Stormscapefor years
03:36.51DjaneAlso.
03:36.56Laihendithis show fucking killed off another character like 2 episodes after i starting liking him. what the fuck
03:36.58Djanehttp://dresdencodak.com/2009/09/07/the-sleepwalkers/ : I NEED THIS TO BE A REAL TV SHOW OR SOMETHING.
03:39.06DjaneAlso Stormscape please tell me you've read and read Gunnerkrigg court?
03:39.16StormscapeObviously
03:39.33DjaneOkay good
03:39.35StormscapeI still think Jones is a robot
03:39.36Djanecancel the nukes guis
03:39.39DjaneOf course she is.
03:39.51StormscapeTim is a master tease
03:39.56StormscapeAnnie knows what she is
03:39.58Stormscapewe still don't
03:39.59DjaneReynardine > everyone.
03:40.05Stormscapefuck yeah Reynard
03:40.25DjaneWondermark?
03:41.11StormscapeI loved that scene where Jones just punches a hole in the wall
03:41.13StormscapeLike it's nothing
03:41.21StormscapeThen she's all
03:41.24StormscapeIM NOT A ROBOT
03:41.35StormscapeWhat a lying robot
03:41.55StormscapeDjane I hope you read Subnormality
03:41.55Stormscape:D
03:42.04DjaneI used too
03:42.21DjaneBut i got bored of the third act "and then she threatens to eat people" reveal
03:42.33StormscapeIt usually takes me 3 tries to get through any given comic
03:42.38Djanehttp://wondermark.com/796/
03:42.40Stormscapeso many words
03:43.50blademeldDjane: there are so many free cats in the newspaper
03:44.03blademeldthat seems unnecessary
03:44.09Stormscapeoh man new Widdershins
03:44.14StormscapeI'm sad Darken ended, I loved Gort
03:44.19Stormscapebut at least I have Widdershins
03:44.25DjaneStormscape, oh, and that comic about the cats in prohibition america
03:44.28blademeldStormscape: how is your love life going?
03:44.32DjaneForget it's name now because you only check it like once a year
03:44.35Stormscapeblade wat
03:44.41blademelddat
03:45.06DjaneFuck yeah Lackadaisy
03:45.10DjaneYou read lackadaisy right?
03:45.23StormscapeNope
03:45.29DjaneRight, hang on.
03:45.30StormscapeI cleaned out my comics list and now there's only like
03:45.30Stormscape30
03:45.31blademeldno
03:45.35Stormscapebecause I removed the unfunny ones
03:45.41Djanehttp://lackadaisycats.com/comic.php?comicid=1
03:45.43DjaneGo there
03:45.44DjaneEnjoy
03:45.48DjaneIt will take you a few hours to read through
03:45.52Djaneand then you can ignore it for a year
03:46.41Stormscapesomething about comics exclusively made up of talking animals
03:46.43Stormscapekinda disturbs me
03:49.00StormscapeYou know what I like but updates rarely
03:49.03StormscapeAWESOME HOSPITAL
03:50.29Stormscapeheh, I think NCIX is desperate to get rid of stock. WD Velociraptors on sale, 150GB for $120
03:59.24LugburzStormscape: that soundsl ike a decent dleal
03:59.45StormscapeExcept for the part where they make a lot of noise for not a lot of performance gain
04:00.22Lugburz:/
04:09.59fewynyellow green red, which one are you supposed to kill in lfr?
04:10.03fewyni assumed yellow
04:10.11fewynbut everyone in the raid i syelling green
04:10.29fewynpeople retarded
04:12.59fewynno one?
04:14.28Djanefewyn, in lfr you would kill red
04:14.32DjaneThat is
04:14.40Djaneif you wanted to lower the damage the most, red is what you kill
04:14.44Djanewhat gets -killed- is green
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05:08.02blademeldlol
05:08.11blademeldgoddamn tailoring
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13:55.18raspyhmmm
13:56.12twsxno.
13:56.39raspyi fergot what lvl the old heirlooms worked until
13:56.48twsx80
13:56.55BlackNetanyone know off hand what the subscriber number was in lk days?
13:57.04raspythey quit at 80 or until ya hit 81
13:57.05BlackNetdidnt' it peak at somethign like 14mil or 17mil?
13:57.13twsxwut
13:57.17raspy14
13:57.21twsxBlackNet: no. 12m was the peak.
13:57.22twsxlies
13:57.31BlackNet12mil? thought i was 14
13:57.33BlackNetit
13:57.35twsxor am i that wrong?
13:57.53BlackNeteither way they are down to 10 mil now
13:57.57twsxthey started crying about all the losses when they dropped from 12 to 11.4
13:58.07twsxso 14 seems off. but i cant be sure.
13:58.28BlackNeti was on the phone with them a few weeks ago and the guy mentioned 10 million transactions per month
13:58.47twsxyeah, they're 10.something now.
13:58.48BlackNetnow there is a blurb on wowhead about it and it shows 10 mil as well
13:59.09BlackNetthat's still a 20% loss
13:59.25twsx12 to 10 is not 20% :p
13:59.33BlackNet10/12
13:59.46BlackNet0.83
13:59.55twsxaye
13:59.56BlackNetok so 16.6% loss
14:00.01twsx:)
14:00.26BlackNetclose enough to call it 20%
14:00.32twsxpeople act as if wow was dying. it's hilarious.
14:00.57BlackNetso saying almost a quarter make it sound very bad no?
14:01.58BlackNethere's an article posted in nov. says they lost 2 mil in one year
14:03.56BlackNetah ha
14:03.57BlackNetOn October 7, 2010 World of Warcraft reached a subscriber base of over 12 million players
14:04.04twsxwell, they lost those 2. something mil within 3 semesters
14:04.26twsxbut i seriously doubt we'll see the end of wow within the next 2-3 years.
14:04.31BlackNetSince May 2011, the number of players playing had decreased by 10% from 11.4 million to 10.3 million.
14:04.43BlackNetam wondering what the loss/gain was from nov to may
14:05.53BlackNeti know many realms have taken a beating since the downturn
14:07.25twsxthey are still crowded enough.
14:07.35BlackNetmany are
14:07.51twsxSWTOR has way less people per realm, and i can't imagine that SWTOR needs less hardware resources per player than wow does.
14:13.42hyljeno players
14:14.31twsx?
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14:24.23twsxTrue.
14:24.42BlackNetwhat are the raid group sizes there
14:25.45Lienne8/16
14:27.32BlackNetso 8 vs 10, 16 vs 25
14:27.37BlackNetpretty big difference there
14:30.04BlackNetleast it's uniform and not weighted for 25m
14:32.26twsxThough considering that there are ridiculously more 10 man noobs than 25man raids in WoW, and I see probably more 16 man raids than 8 mans (at least on my realm), i'm not sure how much of a difference that really is.
14:33.47twsxWell, is it?
14:33.49BlackNetwell performance wise on slower/older pc's 16 would be not that much worse than 10
14:34.04hyljeswtor doesn't have combat logs
14:34.12twsxIn WoW 10/25 is supposed to be the same as well, and it failed miserably.
14:34.14hyljegood luck weeding out scrubs with no dps
14:34.42twsxThat is an issue. It's coming though.
14:35.02twsxCombat log parsing, i mean.
14:35.36twsxThey did however mention that user made UI modifications won't be there for a while, so perhaps we'll see some sort of penis meters in the standard UI.
14:37.42hyljeyeaaaaaah
14:37.49hyljea penis that rises the more DIPS you get
14:38.17twsxhmm. is that a German thing? i guess it is. we commonly call damage meters "penismeters".
14:42.18BlackNetcombat logs also tells you who is fucking up mechanics
14:42.49twsxsure. but i would say the #1 use is still e-peen measuring.
14:50.06BlackNeti see much more than that
14:51.39BlackNetcomparing your class/spec with others of the same class/spec to see how well you are doing is not epeen
14:52.16twsxSure.
14:52.47twsxNevertheless, the most common use I'd say is still morons trying to be raid/party-wide #1 and then gloating about it.
14:53.49Djanetwsx, that depends entirely on the context.
14:54.02DjaneReal raid groups don't care who's top
14:54.05DjaneOnly who's bottom and why.
14:54.23twsxYou guys don't get what I'm saying.
14:54.37twsxI'm saying it's the most commonly used thing, not the thing it should be used for.
14:54.58Djaneand commonly only refers to particularly context.
14:55.06DjaneIn this context, it is commonly used for
14:55.08Djanein that context
14:55.09Djaneetc
15:00.29robotiggerGood thing noone in a real raid is trying to rank on WoL then :P
15:00.45twsx:)
15:00.59BlackNetimagine that
15:01.41robotiggerpft, feeding a legendary mage all possible buffs & letting him stay in the bad stuff = what real raids do
15:03.14robotiggerbut what do I know, I'm just a slacker
15:03.23twsx!
15:03.38DjaneWell sometimes, but mostly you just ragequit hilariously.
15:03.38twsxslackerslackerslackerslackerslackerslacker
15:03.40twsxhurrr
15:04.47robotiggeryeah
15:15.36twsxI'm bored. Can anyone recommend any cool Flash games or something? :|
15:15.48Djanekongregate.com
15:15.51Ackisfacebook.com
15:16.18twsxAckis: I've never tried Farmville.. Is it worth it? :|
15:16.27AckisIMO no
15:16.30robotiggernoes
15:16.34Ackisthere are 1000's of other games on there however
15:16.35robotiggerimo you're better off playing ARL
15:16.40Ackis:P
15:16.49robotiggereven if that _will_ take over your life and golds
15:16.58twsxYeah,  but games on FB will post shit to my wall, aye?
15:17.06Ackisyou can disable that
15:17.12robotiggeryou can usually set, yeah
15:17.16twsxThat would be bad, I'm at work, and my boss is a FB friend. :P
15:17.29robotiggertried CivWorld for about 5 minutes, then gave up and went back to the real thing
15:18.55twsxScrew it i'll just play desktop tower defense..
15:19.07robotigger:P
15:19.35robotiggerI just want my new credit card, so I can grab Civ5 while there's a decent offer on :<
15:33.41murmurnot sure I can recommend Civ5 - broken in so many ways still :(
15:34.23hyljenot too broken i don't think
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15:36.51robotiggerhmpf
15:38.08murmurhylje: in single player, on large/busy maps, the lag is incredible -- and on multiplayer, out-of-sync happens far too often
15:39.04murmurhylje: and the top-end of the ladder ito gameplay, it boils down to if/when/how many AI players rush you in the first 50 turns - once you're past that, the game is quite boring to win
15:39.19murmurCiv4 BTS is much more enjoyable
15:39.25robotiggerhm
15:39.28robotiggermight as well get that then
15:39.33LienneI bought Civ 5 on the day it came out, played it on and off for a month, and haven't touched it since
15:39.34robotiggerfor some reason I only got Warlords
15:39.40Lienne:<
15:39.41LienneCiv 4 was so much fun
15:39.42LienneI miss it
15:39.47LienneI should play it again
15:39.53robotiggermy only issue is with Barbarians
15:40.20Liennein Civ 4?
15:40.22robotiggersince I prefer playing on huge maps, I get swamped by them from about 200ad onwards
15:40.28LienneAh
15:40.30hyljeraging barbarians
15:40.33LienneHehe
15:40.37LienneYeah
15:41.18Liennebarbarian musketmen are funny
15:41.26Lienneand the like
15:42.00hyljebarbs only disappear when all land is occupied by a civ
15:42.19robotiggeryeah
15:42.35Liennehuge maps makes it hard though
15:42.38robotiggerbut massive expansionism early on = crippled economy
15:42.40Lienneunless you beeline for communism
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17:40.10g0urraleaving what?
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