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| 00:18.19 | BlackNet | jane you there? |
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| 00:27.37 | BlackNet | Djones__ |
| 00:27.43 | Djones__ | Me. |
| 00:27.58 | BlackNet | what was you saying yesterday about h morchok why you have to move him? |
| 00:28.13 | Djones__ | Crystals can spawn further than 25meters from the tank |
| 00:28.30 | Djones__ | If you don't move the tank(and thus the boss), you either have less people soaking stomp |
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| 00:28.41 | Djones__ | or you take crystal damage from further than close range |
| 00:29.03 | Djones__ | If you are appropriately geared. I.e average around 393 or so |
| 00:29.16 | Djones__ | If you have Less than ALL The people soaking stomp and people RIGHT ON TOP of the crystal |
| 00:29.16 | BlackNet | resonating crystal? the one that splits among 3 random players? |
| 00:29.17 | Djones__ | you die. |
| 00:29.22 | Djones__ | No, 3 closest players. |
| 00:29.33 | BlackNet | says here 3 random |
| 00:29.37 | BlackNet | but that's fine |
| 00:29.46 | Djones__ | It's not. |
| 00:30.03 | Djones__ | Therefore, if you don't move the tank, and therefore the boss |
| 00:30.08 | Djones__ | And are appropriately geared. |
| 00:30.16 | Djones__ | You will die to either stomp or crystal damage. |
| 00:30.28 | Djones__ | If however, you outgear it, and since it's been nerfed |
| 00:30.34 | Djones__ | on 25man, you can just have dedicated soakers for each |
| 00:30.45 | Djones__ | I.e if your gear means you can not give a shit about mechanics |
| 00:30.56 | Djones__ | And quite frankly |
| 00:31.06 | Djones__ | any strategy that presumes "you don't give a shit about mechanics" is not a strategy |
| 00:31.24 | BlackNet | so you are saying tanks has to soak the crystals? |
| 00:31.28 | Djones__ | Herp no |
| 00:31.35 | Djones__ | The crystal soakers have to be in range of stomp |
| 00:31.48 | Djones__ | And since moving to crystal can move them out of stomp range |
| 00:31.58 | Djones__ | the tank moves the boss towards crystals to ensure minimum damage on the raid. |
| 00:32.23 | Djones__ | because if 3 people move out of stomp range. You have 600k damage split between 2 people. |
| 00:32.27 | Djones__ | Now, I'm not the best at math |
| 00:32.32 | BlackNet | so your saying the crystal soakers are the same as stomp soakers |
| 00:32.38 | Djones__ | Yes. |
| 00:32.51 | Djones__ | And if they're not, two things are true. |
| 00:32.56 | Djones__ | You're 25man, and you outgear it a lot. |
| 00:35.34 | Djones__ | Any other questions? I want to go watch Dexter with my girlfriend. |
| 00:35.49 | BlackNet | that's it, just wanted to verify what i thought you said last night :) |
| 00:36.00 | Djones__ | Is there anything in this you disagree with? |
| 00:36.28 | BlackNet | i am sure that is a valid sound strategy for your group |
| 00:36.39 | Djones__ | Quick question. |
| 00:36.39 | Stormscape | http://i.imgur.com/kbhTC.png oh god LOL |
| 00:36.40 | Djones__ | If you have a 10man raid group BlackNet |
| 00:36.45 | Djones__ | And you split into 2 groups of 5. |
| 00:36.54 | Djones__ | And each group of 5 requires 4 people minimum to soak a stomp |
| 00:36.59 | Djones__ | and 3 people minimum to soak crystal |
| 00:37.08 | Djones__ | Explain to me how you could have seperate stomp soakers and crystal soakers |
| 00:37.16 | Djones__ | Make 4+3 = 5. |
| 00:37.19 | Djones__ | I double dare you. |
| 00:38.39 | Djones__ | That's what I thought. G'night people. |
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| 00:44.11 | Djones__ | Sidenote : What possible advantages are there in -not- moving the boss anyways? |
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| 00:49.36 | Laihendi_ | :o |
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| 01:02.56 | jane | BlackNet: yea, what's up? |
| 01:05.30 | jane | BlackNet: ping :p |
| 01:08.35 | BlackNet | hey |
| 01:15.47 | Laihendi | every fucking time i like a character in this show the person either dies or has his/her memory erased. i hate these writers |
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| 01:17.25 | blademeld | is there a moonwell in org or any major horde cities? |
| 01:18.05 | Stormscape | There's still stuff that needs Moonwells? |
| 01:23.52 | ari5av | ok, who is familiar with the rules about the various software licenses? |
| 01:29.33 | blademeld | Stormscape: Mooncloth for AH |
| 01:29.45 | blademeld | ari5av: pfft, who reads those things? |
| 01:30.59 | ari5av | blademeld: me. i hope to be making a serious amount of money off some software I wrote, and I found something else that acts similarly but is uglier |
| 01:31.37 | ari5av | it's web based software that I wrote, and I based it on a LGPL php framework |
| 01:31.56 | blademeld | ari5av: umm, unless they've copyrighted the method, and you live in US, I don't think they have grounds to sue you |
| 01:32.05 | blademeld | unless your code is extremely similar to theirs |
| 01:32.08 | blademeld | which I doubt |
| 01:32.10 | ari5av | so I had to be very well versed in what I could do with regard to licensing user accounts to log in and use it |
| 01:32.22 | jane | licensing-wise you can license your software however you want |
| 01:32.28 | ari5av | so this OTHER piece of software that I found, it's released under AGPL v2 |
| 01:32.41 | jane | dont use gpl >< |
| 01:32.44 | ari5av | which covers software-as-a-service |
| 01:33.20 | ari5av | i'm not using gpl, the stuff I do for fun is usually CC-attrib, and the stuff for work is license-based proprietary |
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| 01:35.03 | ari5av | so I wanted to know if I can dig into the code of the AGPL stuff and possibly see how they do a couple of things I've been struggling with (I know this is legal), but if it comes down to using code from it, I would have to release my entire codebase in an AGPL compatible license |
| 01:35.35 | ari5av | you know, for "free software", that shit is restrictive as hell |
| 01:35.40 | jane | i believe so |
| 01:35.49 | jane | yeah, gpl is a plague, it kind of forces people to free it |
| 01:35.51 | jane | "free" |
| 01:36.02 | ari5av | this is yet another reason why I hate rms |
| 01:37.08 | ari5av | if I ever hear him speak and get to publicly ask him a question, I'm going to ask him about that one video of him picking his toenails and eating it, during a live Q&A session |
| 01:37.15 | jane | haha, he is nasty as hell irl |
| 01:37.44 | ari5av | he used to be a hippie, but now he reminds me more of the fat nerd from the wow episode of south park |
| 01:37.54 | jane | lol |
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| 01:38.26 | ari5av | when people ask him about "open source software" publicly, he stops them and berates them for not using the term "free software" |
| 01:39.32 | ari5av | if it was free, I could use useful code without being forced to give away my modifications, even if my code is entirely behind the scenes |
| 01:40.04 | jane | yeah. |
| 01:40.36 | jane | anyway, i could be wrong, but i think your code use would still fall under modification so it'd have to be licensed as a whole |
| 01:41.48 | ari5av | I could write the following code: main(){} <--- if I released that under the terms of the AGPL, I could sue just about every developer who writes something in c, c++, c#, java, or any of their derivatives, from now on |
| 01:41.53 | jane | lol |
| 01:42.17 | jane | well good luck with that, havent there been some super high profile cases of misattributed GPL code not going anywhere? |
| 01:42.23 | jane | there's a license but no real legal backing |
| 01:42.41 | ari5av | i should trademark the phrase "hello, world!" and start suing people |
| 01:43.06 | jane | :P |
| 01:43.17 | jane | urgggg |
| 01:43.28 | jane | i just blindly updated tukui in curse to some alpha and it overwrote EVERYTHING |
| 01:44.08 | jane | wonder if i have a backup.. |
| 01:44.17 | Laihendi | wow i hope so bro |
| 01:44.33 | jane | oh i have backups, just not sure if i have one from the last couple days |
| 01:44.58 | ari5av | hit ctrl-z, see if that works |
| 01:45.02 | ari5av | that might fix it |
| 01:45.16 | jane | lol |
| 01:47.24 | jane | dont know why i bitch so much about running alphas when im running alphas. maybe im just too optimistic with my own apps |
| 01:48.53 | jane | ahhh backups make me happy |
| 01:49.11 | blademeld | hahaha |
| 01:49.32 | blademeld | caught the blimp as it was phasing out to Northrend |
| 01:49.42 | blademeld | logged into UNDER stonetalon mountains |
| 01:49.49 | blademeld | because the phase DCed me |
| 01:49.56 | Lugburz | zzzzzz |
| 01:50.01 | Lugburz | you hearth out? |
| 01:50.53 | blademeld | had to fly up first |
| 01:51.03 | blademeld | since... there's no ground |
| 01:51.16 | Lugburz | oh ya |
| 01:51.20 | Lugburz | wait youre a durid? |
| 01:51.23 | blademeld | no |
| 01:51.33 | blademeld | I was flying to the zepplin |
| 01:51.34 | Lugburz | confused |
| 01:51.37 | Lugburz | ohhh ok |
| 01:51.58 | blademeld | caught it as it was phasing out |
| 01:52.13 | Lugburz | heh nice |
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| 02:38.51 | Interest | yo everyone. |
| 02:42.36 | Laihendi | hi interest :) |
| 02:43.24 | Laihendi | im so glad youre here i barely see you these days i miss you so much <3 |
| 02:47.21 | Interest | any wowhead web page devs on atm? i need some assistance on html |
| 02:47.27 | Interest | and somthing els |
| 02:47.29 | Interest | e |
| 02:47.52 | Interest | or heck, anyone who knows html a bit |
| 02:47.57 | Laihendi | i do |
| 03:17.46 | blademeld | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/draktharon/Lavinet/advanced |
| 03:17.48 | blademeld | whee |
| 03:17.58 | blademeld | spent another 400G on transmog items |
| 03:18.01 | blademeld | kek |
| 03:24.51 | Interest | lol |
| 03:24.57 | Interest | blademeld do you know html at all? |
| 03:25.20 | blademeld | yes, I know that people don't use it |
| 03:25.26 | blademeld | was that what you were asking for? |
| 03:25.53 | blademeld | also, Raws should be an expert in the field.... IF he still uses it |
| 03:28.22 | Interest | blademeld: It's for blogging purposes |
| 03:28.30 | Interest | blogger allows you to code in HTML |
| 03:28.34 | blademeld | yes |
| 03:28.35 | blademeld | it does |
| 03:28.36 | Interest | and i need to do something specific |
| 03:28.39 | blademeld | what did you want? |
| 03:28.42 | Interest | that's not possible with compose |
| 03:28.45 | Interest | well |
| 03:28.52 | Interest | pretty much i wanted to use dungeon journal icons |
| 03:28.59 | Interest | i want to transfer my deathwing encounter over to my blog |
| 03:29.08 | blademeld | can't you use the image tags? |
| 03:29.09 | Interest | i also intend to remaster every boss in my sword of truth instances in the future |
| 03:29.18 | Interest | blogger tends to be a bitch about it |
| 03:29.27 | Interest | also i know there's another way |
| 03:29.29 | Interest | i swear there is |
| 03:29.38 | Noxy | butts. |
| 03:29.41 | Interest | unless a site dev can prove me wrong? |
| 03:29.51 | Interest | oh hai noxy |
| 03:29.58 | blademeld | Limbero ping |
| 03:29.58 | Noxy | hullo |
| 03:30.58 | Interest | hm interesting |
| 03:31.25 | Interest | WOW |
| 03:31.27 | Interest | that's pretty amazing |
| 03:31.44 | Interest | according to this sim, i actually performed at 100%+ for ultraxion |
| 03:31.50 | Lugburz | nope |
| 03:31.53 | Lugburz | you got 0 Interest |
| 03:31.57 | Lugburz | cause you're a bad perso |
| 03:31.59 | Lugburz | nm |
| 03:32.00 | Interest | it's saying 37k dps (combined) |
| 03:32.04 | Interest | and i did 37.6k |
| 03:32.20 | Interest | then again it's femaledwarf, so lol |
| 03:33.04 | Interest | oh snap they do use image tags |
| 03:33.06 | Interest | interesting |
| 03:33.15 | Interest | this'll be fun. time to extract them |
| 03:34.35 | Interest | now to see if it works on blogger. |
| 03:35.25 | Interest | holy crap it works |
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| 03:39.15 | Interest | http://postmasterinterest.blogspot.com/2012/02/programming-article-4-getting-started.html |
| 03:39.24 | Interest | anyone know how to not get it to make a backgroundish thing lol |
| 03:41.05 | Laihendi | i think if you paste it into paint and then crop the top right corner out that'll fix your problem |
| 03:46.10 | Interest | that's not it |
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| 03:50.23 | Laihendi | gn u guyz xoxo |
| 03:50.57 | blademeld | oh god |
| 03:50.59 | blademeld | Noxy: http://wednesdaywolf.com/paintings/butterfree/ |
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| 03:51.59 | Interest | blademeld |
| 03:52.02 | Interest | any ideas? |
| 03:52.04 | Interest | =( |
| 03:53.42 | blademeld | other than the img tag, no |
| 03:57.34 | Interest | you did look, right? |
| 03:57.59 | Lugburz | snuggles blademeld |
| 04:04.51 | Interest | ah i think i found out why' |
| 04:11.38 | Interest | ah that looks so much cleaner |
| 04:12.54 | Interest | i hope the adsense reviewers didn't see all that experimentation lol |
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| 08:14.12 | Digital_Ec | Hey |
| 08:18.52 | Digital_Ec | Anyone interested in a WoW account CHEAP? It's got an 85 Sub Rogue ilvl 393 PvP |
| 08:18.54 | Digital_Ec | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/barthilas/Kenulas/simple |
| 08:18.59 | Digital_Ec | $40 |
| 08:28.09 | Stormscape | We don't allow activities that break the TOS here. |
| 08:36.47 | Digital_Ec | Ahh |
| 08:36.49 | Digital_Ec | Fair enough |
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| 16:53.10 | Tattycakes | Hi |
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| 16:55.27 | Tattycakes | O.o |
| 16:57.28 | robokitty | :? |
| 16:57.38 | g0urra | ?: |
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| 17:00.52 | robokitty | ¿: |
| 17:00.56 | Lienne | :O |
| 17:04.03 | Tattycakes | >.< |
| 17:07.32 | Lienne | :D |
| 17:08.09 | Tattycakes | Le quiet |
| 17:09.08 | hylje | le le |
| 17:10.22 | Tattycakes | Trololol lololol trololol |
| 17:24.44 | Tattycakes | Why no talky |
| 17:28.32 | hylje | everymouse is too busy playing transformice |
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| 18:01.38 | GankedYou | hey guyys |
| 18:02.19 | GankedYou | anyone here?:L |
| 18:03.46 | robokitty | no, we're all in hiding |
| 18:04.10 | Lienne | I'm hiding from robokitty |
| 18:04.14 | robokitty | :o |
| 18:04.25 | Lienne | :D |
| 18:04.30 | GankedYou | :O |
| 18:04.36 | GankedYou | sneeeky ninjas. |
| 18:06.16 | Lienne | Hello, GankedYou. |
| 18:06.43 | GankedYou | well, ive just rolled my first deathh knight. |
| 18:07.04 | GankedYou | and after playing Mage for two months, and just button bashing, its a big difference. |
| 18:11.57 | hylje | have you considered respeccing off arcane |
| 18:13.25 | GankedYou | arcanes tha best though:(:(:(:(: |
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| 19:58.42 | Laihendi | and you know what if you have a problem with who i am then thats just too bad because i am a unique, indepdeent, strongwilled man and i dont take no ish from nobody so if u have a problem w/ me then to dam bad becoz u can say it to my face if u wanna fight about it |
| 20:01.31 | ari5av | /msg Laihendisface i wanna fight about it |
| 20:01.39 | ari5av | oshi |
| 20:02.24 | robokitty | :| |
| 20:02.33 | Laihendi | bish i aint qonna fight wit u <3 |
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| 20:06.44 | ari5av | word holmes <3 |
| 20:33.02 | Freyja | [The Wowhead Blog] News Round Up: Dragon Soul Nerfs Continue and so do MoP Talent Explanations - http://www.wowheadnews.com/blog=200968/news-round-up-dragon-soul-nerfs-continue-and-so-do-mop-talent-explanations |
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| 21:08.42 | Laihendi | seriously how did people watch tv before the internet |
| 21:12.49 | fewyn | they scheduled times to sit down and watch stuff |
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| 23:13.34 | fewyn | so i found the best way to help the group not fuck up spine in lfr is just not to dps anything |
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| 23:55.08 | Djones__ | fewyn, yes. |
| 23:57.40 | tate | yay for the horde |
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