IRC log for #wowhead on 20111214

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00:16.49JunkHeadHey, for a Combat Rogue, how important is spell hit cap? Do I stack hit to 17 or 18%? (I forget which it is), or stop at 8%?
00:17.27Arkaenyou don't afik
00:17.28Arkaenafaik
00:17.39Arkaenmost of combat dmg is phys, poisons arent that much
00:17.43Arkaenassassination is the poison spec
00:18.08JunkHeadSo get to 8% (easy) and any else I manage to pick up is just a bonus.
00:18.44Arkaenpretty sure, yep!
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01:24.40Laihendihi mytie (:
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01:31.09LeGendHello?
01:34.35MyTieHi Laihendi, and LeGend
01:35.42Jophiel88Anyone how could help me with some rogues pve builds?
01:37.23MyTieHow do you type doe in headlights?
01:37.33Laihendiris
01:37.43MyTieI guess I could just say, no, I don't know anything about rogue pve builds
01:44.55Laihendioh my god i love food so much it's so great. i dont know how people in africa live without it
01:45.21Stormscape...
01:45.57StormscapeThey don't.
01:46.21Laihendithen i guess they'll never know what they're missing out on
01:47.56StormscapeAre you always this fucking stupid
01:48.45Laihendiwow that's rude
01:49.12StormscapeImplying I give even half a fuck
01:49.43Laihendibro that's not cool people are gonna think you're a jerk with that attitude :/
01:49.58StormscapeNews flash: People /know/ I'm a jerk.
01:50.14Laihendidon't worry when you're ready to apologize i'll forgive you :)
01:50.39StormscapeI don't apologise to idiots.
01:52.01MyTieHeh.  Laihendi started this conversation off by making light of starving people. He obviously wants to fight.  He's trolling you.  Just ignore him.  That will really get him mad.  I've been ignoring him for years.
01:52.45StormscapeOh, I'm not even close to caring about him or what he thinks.
01:52.52StormscapeSo how about them wild moose
01:52.53parall4xWow, NCIS.... watching people kill to the sound of Christmas carols is something new.
01:53.07Laihendimytie i have something to tell you. all those times you thought you were talking to ivokk on vent, you were talking to me
01:53.15Laihendiso much for ignoring me lolol
01:53.33StormscapeThat would be pretty easy to disprove.
01:53.40MyTieDon't worry about it Stormscape
01:53.46StormscapeI know eh
01:53.47MyTieWhat do I care if he was pretending to be Ivokk
01:53.58MyTieSpeaking of food
01:54.01MyTieI'm making enchaladas
01:54.06StormscapeHe's pretty creepy tbh and I've only seen him talking to himself on IRC.
01:54.27MyTieDo not... I repeat... do not... ever make enchaladas with anything but montery jack cheese
01:54.37Stormscapewhat the fuck is an enchalada
01:54.39parall4xIt'll go straight to your hips :-/
01:54.43Laihendistormscape i'm concerned for you. i think you might have asperger's syndrome. you seem to have a lot of the symptomes
01:55.01MyTieMy hips could use a little enchalada
01:55.05Stormscapeparall4x, oh I know eh
01:55.20Laihendiyour hips could use a little salsa ;) idk what that means
01:55.27MyTieenchalada is like a cheese and chicken burrito smothered in white sauce with little chile peppers and cheese topping
01:55.32parall4xThat's a corny way to invite someone to salsa dance with you.
01:55.36StormscapeMyTie, that sounds fucking gross.
01:55.41Stormscapejust sayin
01:55.48parall4xIt's even worse coming out.
01:55.51MyTieI'm pretty picky, and I like them... let me dig up a pick
01:55.53MyTieerr.. pic
01:56.13Stormscapeparall4x, I don't eat food unless it's spicy.
01:56.18Stormscapechile peppers are more like pepper to me
01:56.27MyTiehttp://www.google.com/imgres?q=enchiladas&hl=en&sa=X&biw=1360&bih=653&tbm=isch&prmd=imvnse&tbnid=HTXsN41ncfMMlM:&imgrefurl=http://www.culinary.net/articlesfeatures/FeatureDetail.aspx%3FID%3D1646&docid=0eDETs2MswhqKM&imgurl=http://www.culinary.net/RecipeFileHandler.ashx%253Fid%253D3861%2526fieldId%253D3%2526datacol%253DDESCRIPTION_IMAGE&w=300&h=300&ei=MwLoTumtO5PZiQKFh8mUBw&zoom=1
01:56.29MyTieThere's a pic
01:56.37MyTieBut that uses red sauce
01:56.40MyTieI use white sauce
01:56.42StormscapeYeah, that looks pretty gross.
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01:56.52Pooglesohey
01:56.53MyTieI suppose they aren't for everyone.
01:57.13MyTieWhat kind of mexican foods do you like?  Any?  I prefer Thai food over Mexican food.
01:57.15parall4xThey're fairly ubiguitous here.
01:57.36Pooglesi like yellow rice and refried beans
01:57.51Pooglesand grits
01:57.53MyTieMmm... yellow rice.... I could eat that stuff strait... with cheese is pretty good too
01:57.58parall4xMere sides. They serve only to compliment the enchaladas.
01:58.06StormscapeI'm not a fan of Mexican food at all
01:58.24parall4xEvery time I say "enchaladas", I feel like Antonio Banderas.
01:58.38MyTieI only eat like 4 dishes of mexican food, and only from dives.  Cheap mexican food is always better than sit down expensive
01:59.32MyTieYou ever had Chicken Pad Thai?  I could eat that 4 times a day, every day, for the rest of my life, and not be tired of it.
01:59.54StormscapeYou know what I like? Subway.
02:00.01StormscapeI could eat Subway for the rest of my life.
02:00.09Pooglesi could drink water every day for the rest of my life and never get tired of it. XD
02:00.27MyTieSubway is a good solid meal.  Nice choice.
02:00.41parall4xI had a terrible habit of eating the meatball marinera sub there. Turns out it's the most unhealthy sub they offer.
02:01.04MyTieBuffalo Chicken Sub > Any other sub
02:01.37parall4xI put the Chipotle Southwesth sauce on every sub, no matter the composition.
02:01.39parall4xIt's that good.
02:01.42Laihendii can't relate to this conversation because i don't promote the murder of animals to get food
02:01.51parall4xControversial much?
02:02.02StormscapeDamn right animals have rights. They have the right to be fucking delicious.
02:02.24Laihendii never said they had rights... so your joke does not apply
02:02.36parall4xAnimals' rights don't fit well in the hierarchy of needs, sadly.
02:03.58parall4xCrap, I think this marks that start of our holiday break from raiding.
02:04.13MyTieEveryone got their tree?
02:04.18Stormscapetree?
02:04.24MyTieChristmas tree.
02:04.41MyTieI got a fake one this year.  Last year the real one was infested with spiders.
02:04.44Stormscape<blank stare>
02:04.55Laihendii don't buy christmas trees, i donate the $50 i would normally spend on one to my local homeless shelter.
02:05.02MyTieIt's a yes or a no sort of thing... tree or not?
02:05.11Stormscapewhy would I buy a tree
02:05.16Stormscapewtf am I gonna do with a tree
02:05.26MyTieTradition... I mean... you don't have to.  Decorate it... looks nice.
02:05.28parall4xOf all things, decorate. Don't read too far into that.
02:05.37StormscapeThat's silly.
02:05.43MyTieYeah, it is.
02:05.52MyTieBut it's a nice silly.
02:05.54parall4xI don't bring up this topic at work because this pagan girl goes on a rant about how Christianity stole the concept. Every damn time.
02:06.12Stormscapeparall4x, oh I bet I would have fun with her.
02:06.18Laihendistormscape i'm telling you this as a friend, i really think you should read this http://www.webmd.com/brain/autism/tc/aspergers-syndrome-symptoms for your own good. i'm concerned
02:06.39StormscapeI love trolling trendy new age people who think they're "pagan"
02:06.49parall4xIt's rather rewarding.
02:07.10StormscapeIndeed, since they're even more clueless about pagan stuff than the average Christian is about Christian things.
02:07.14Laihendido you avoid eye contact or stare at others?
02:07.38parall4xI do.
02:07.48Laihendido you have unusual facial expressions or postures?
02:07.51Mr_Rabiesasperger's syndrome is probably the most over- and self-over-diagnosed condition to people who use the internet regularly
02:07.53StormscapeThe voices in my head talk backwards.
02:07.55parall4xSlightly ape-like, yes.
02:08.04Laihendiwow you're probably autistic then
02:08.14parall4xCool. I LIKE 2 PLA THE DRUMZ.
02:08.32parall4xThe set player in my high school jazz band was autistic. He was a riot.
02:08.33MyTieTo me, it is a tree.
02:08.52parall4xHe jumped off the bus on the side of the highway on the way to a competition. We never made it to said competition by the time he was recovered.
02:08.55MyTieIt looks nice.  I don't care who started it, or what it means to others.  To me, it is a pretty and meaningless decoration.
02:08.57StormscapeWhy is a raven like a writing desk
02:09.29Mr_Rabiesman i'm hungry
02:10.02Mr_Rabiesall that talk about food earlier made me hungry
02:10.03Laihendiif we all went a year without christmas trees and donated the money to homeless shelters, maybe we could finally have a christmas where no one went hungry
02:10.17MyTieWhy is a raven like a writing desk, Stormscape?
02:10.25StormscapeMyTie, I haven't the faintest idea
02:10.28Stormscape:D
02:10.31*** join/#wowhead episteme (~omega@unaffiliated/episteme)
02:10.37StormscapeThat was my favourite line from Alice in Wonderland
02:10.41Mr_Rabiesif we started at the top and killed enough rich people we could have a christmas where the whole world had something to eat
02:10.49parall4xLai: In my town, the Christmas trees are sold by an entirely-volunteer fire department server 3k+ citizens of my rural community. I think we'll keep this system.
02:10.56MyTieenchaladas just came out of the oven.  I used chipotle peppers... they are awesome.
02:10.56parall4x*serving
02:11.21Mowseymerp
02:11.26Laihendihere i'm just gonna leave this for you http://life-with-aspergers.blogspot.com/ and as a friend i strongly urge you to look into this. ok i'll stop bringing it up now
02:11.43parall4xAZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZBURGERZ
02:11.47Stormscape^
02:12.01Mr_Rabiesi think Stormscape is angry too much to have ass burgers
02:12.13StormscapeWell I am Mr. Hates Everything
02:12.27Laihendiactually, autistic people are just confused,and that's why they seem to agitated. it's a hard life
02:12.33Laihendiso*
02:12.34MyTieMy cat hates everything.
02:12.41parall4xExpert testimony there, I suspect.
02:13.20Stormscapeparall4x, my mental image of Lai is a fat neckbeard nerd with asthma.
02:13.29StormscapeProbably unhealthy obsession with at least one girl he knows too
02:13.35parall4xNeckbears are quite popular here; among the Amish folk, that is.
02:13.36Laihendii do have asthma but i'm skinny and no beard
02:13.38Mr_Rabiesaren't you the person who posed as someone else in order to ruin someone's marriage? i don't think you're one to diagnose other people's social issues, Laihendi
02:13.42parall4xWho have a great history of mental disease.
02:13.48MyTiethe only girl Laihendi is obsessed with is Laihendi.
02:13.51StormscapeMr_Rabies, indeed he is.
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02:14.07Laihendiactually i'm still obsessed with my ex gf from high school but other than that yes just laihendi
02:14.25Mr_Rabiesi mean stormscape is a dick but i don't think assburgers really fits the bill for his rage
02:14.30parall4xI'm not sure you'd be aware of your alter ego if you were schizophrenic, though, Lai.
02:14.35Mr_Rabiesanxiety, high blood pressure, maybe
02:14.41Laihendiand mr rabies i've never done anything to ruin someone's marriage
02:14.50parall4xThat you remember, Ego #1.
02:14.52Stormscapeparall4x, you're normally not, no.
02:14.55MyTieLaihendi isn't schizo... he just wants attention.
02:15.06Mr_Rabiesa sociopath, then?
02:15.08StormscapeYou'll wonder how you managed to get somewhere though.
02:15.11parall4xCertainly.
02:15.32MyTieI don't know if I would consider him a sociopath.  Probably just annoying.
02:15.46StormscapeI dated a bi-polar schizophrenic in high school.
02:15.48StormscapeFun times
02:15.55Mr_Rabiesarranging the destruction of someone else's life is pretty sociopathic
02:15.57MyTieEnchaladas are thick... like a brick... one of them and I'm full.
02:16.02Stormscapesex fiend too
02:16.15Mr_Rabieswhat kinda meat, MyTie, shredded beef?
02:16.27MyTiechicken
02:16.27Laihendi*shredded murdered cow
02:16.37StormscapeMurder is fucking delicious
02:16.45Mr_Rabiesthe first animal that tells me not to eat it is the first animal i don't eat
02:16.50Stormscape^
02:16.56Mr_Rabiesi.e. humans
02:17.02MyTieFunny... animal rights people are usually pro abortion.
02:17.04StormscapeMr_Rabies, there's some people I'd want to eat.
02:17.05Mr_Rabiesi probably won't ever intentionally eat people in my lifetime
02:17.20Laihendii'm just going to start eating retard babies who can't talk until one of them tells me to stop
02:17.45Mr_Rabiesprobably better for them than having a horribly unfulfilling life
02:17.45StormscapeSounds good.
02:18.12StormscapeMr_Rabies, if anybody here is a sociopath, it would 50% chance be me.
02:18.14Stormscapeor dogel.
02:18.20MyTieThe world is upside down to laihendi.  He is a she.  America is awful and NKorea is the promised land.  Slaughter babies but save chickens.  It's nonsense, but what are you going to do?  You won't change his mind with anything less than a chisel, so just ignore him.
02:18.25Laihendii'm just going to start eating the healthy babies who can't talk of rich people until one of them tells me to stop
02:18.31StormscapeSounds good.
02:18.44parall4xNorth Korea is the promised land... the radio said so.
02:18.47StormscapeAnything that reduces population is a-ok to me.
02:19.03StormscapeI perfer them a bit older though, babies have too much fat
02:19.07Mr_Rabiesyour strawman argument is flawed Laihendi
02:19.07StormscapeFat doesn't taste very good
02:19.08MyTieI used to think there was a population problem, then I drove through Canada.
02:19.22StormscapeMyTie, Australia is worse :D
02:19.29MyTieNothing for hundreds of miles....
02:19.41MyTieThere is no population problem.
02:19.50Laihendii used to think there was a population problem but then i realized that's only true in places like mexico city and china
02:19.53StormscapeNot in Canada, no.
02:19.55MyTieYou could live your whole life in some parts of Cananda and never meet another person.
02:20.03StormscapeWhich is fucking awesome
02:20.10StormscapeBe a backwoods cannibal
02:20.11*** join/#wowhead Atavism (~Nitz@207-118-31-122.dyn.centurytel.net)
02:20.13Stormscapekidnap and eat people
02:20.17Stormscapenever get found
02:20.26Laihendikidnap people you never meet
02:20.37Atavism...wow, what did i stumble upon
02:20.37Laihendibecause no one is there
02:20.42MyTieFor hating people so much you sure are talkative.  You talk about how great it would be to never meet anyone, but you sit on the internet?  I sense some confusion.
02:20.56Laihendii told you he's autistic
02:20.57Mr_Rabieshello and welcome to wowhead's chat channel
02:21.07Mr_Rabieswe're always on topic, as you see
02:21.12Atavismapparently i wont make it out alive ...:-x
02:21.16StormscapeMr_Rabies, distinct difference between words on my screen and actual meatspace people
02:21.16parall4xTopics don't agree with this channel.
02:21.20Laihendii love u atavism be my best friend
02:21.23MyTieWorld of Warcraft is boring to talk about.
02:21.26Laihendii'm nice :)
02:21.37Atavismcan you make scones?
02:21.40StormscapeLaihendi is a sociopath who ruined somebody's marriage out of spite.
02:21.40Laihendiya i can
02:21.45Atavismscore :)
02:21.53Laihendi<3 u bff :)
02:21.56MyTieWhos marriage did Laihendi ruin?
02:22.01Atavismcan we get pendents made?
02:22.16Laihendiidk how but i can order us bff bracelets on amazon
02:22.31Laihendijust give me your address and i'll have one shipped to you
02:22.32Atavismmake them wonder twin rings
02:22.33StormscapeMyTie, I don't know the specifics.
02:22.58Atavismoh sure, ill give my address out to you; you sound legit :)
02:23.08MyTieIf you are refering to the incident he talks about on his profile page, that was MY marriage.
02:23.23MyTieBut, he didn't ruin it, he just made himself out to be an idiot.
02:23.29Laihendithe specifics are that i posed as an underage prostitute and sent mytie a naughty private message. but nothing came of it except mytie wasn't allowed on wowhead for a week or 2
02:23.44Laihendiand i was banned from vent
02:23.46Laihendi:(
02:23.55MyTieYou mean LAIHENDI wasn't allowed on wowhead?  I've never been banned from wowhead.
02:24.18Laihendimy sources informed me that your wife wouldn't let you use wowhead for a while
02:24.43Laihendibut my sources are also liars so i could be mistaken
02:24.57MyTieAh, my wife definately wasn't comfortable with people posing as underage prostitues.  I explained the situation and it worked out fine.  Wowhead didn't ban me.
02:25.09Laihendiyeah i never thought you were banned
02:25.16MyTieok
02:25.31AtavismMyTie; was it the prostitute part or underage part?
02:25.37Atavismor the combo of them which was the problem
02:26.01MyTieAnyway, I don't hate Laihendi.  He is like a graffiti artist, or a bum, or a I don't know... he is a harmless annoynance.
02:26.14Laihendii love you :)
02:26.18Mr_Rabieshe seems like a person with a pretty boring home life
02:26.19MyTieAtavism:  I didn't ask which topic makes my wife more uncomfortable:  prostitution or underage sex.
02:26.25Laihendinot as much as atavism  though
02:26.49Mr_Rabiesthat's my first question on a first date MyTie, you should plan ahead better next time
02:26.49Atavismwhy not?  need to know the boundries - you just eliminated 2 topics when she could have only been pissed at one
02:27.16MyTieThose are two topics I'm ok with eliminating.
02:27.23Atavismhaha
02:27.34Laihendilol!!
02:29.37Pooglesanyone wanna run some heroics with me?
02:30.50Mr_Rabieshere's my opinion on the matter: http://youtu.be/RRF68UKTdb8
02:33.35Pooglesso yes?
02:34.51MyTieI
02:34.58MyTieI will run some heroics with you.
02:35.07Mr_Rabiesno i'm too busy using my computer for whatever's going on in that there german music video
02:35.26MyTieHang on while I get some high speed capable wires to my house, and a subscription to service, and a wow account, and the level the charachter
02:35.50Pooglesare you really about to reactivate your account?
02:35.53MyTieCan i play heroics via smoke signal?
02:35.58Atavismyes
02:36.03Pooglesdo you even play wow?
02:36.03Atavismlatency sucks though
02:36.04MyTieif that were the only obstacle... Poogles.
02:36.06Atavismlots of dropped packets
02:36.22MyTieI haven't played wow in... well.. before cataclysm.
02:37.23MyTie1 smoke poof will represent a 0, and 2 smoke poofs will represent a 1.  I'll put a 10 second break between smoke poofs, and 30 second break between each 1 or 0.  What is my connection speed?
02:37.46MyTieconsider each smoke poof takes about 4 seconds to make as well.
02:37.50Atavismcrap hang on
02:37.53Atavismlet me get my calculator
02:37.56Atavism...carry the 1
02:38.04Mr_Rabiesthe worst part is
02:38.06Atavismugh, damnit
02:38.11Mr_Rabiesi bet wolfram could answer this if asked properly
02:38.14Pooglesso are you running heroics with me or not
02:38.18Atavismi was told there would be no math :(
02:38.23Atavismhaha
02:38.24MyTieThat is a resounding NO
02:38.29Mr_Rabieswelcome to freenode
02:38.35Pooglesthanks for wasting my time than you douche
02:38.36Mr_Rabiesthis will be on the final
02:38.42AtavismHAHA!
02:38.45MyTielol
02:38.54Atavismpoogles, you didn't sense any sarcasm during his statements?
02:39.03Atavismnone...at all?
02:39.07MyTieman... some people's kids are really dense.
02:39.36MyTiebesides... if I went through all that trouble of building a fire and finding a blanket to make the smoke poofs, I'd be playing EQ2
02:40.21Atavismor ADD would kick in and you would end up playing fort with the blanket
02:42.50MyTieI love "fort", but my edition requires sofa cushions.
02:43.26MyTieWe hurt his feelings?
02:43.58Atavism:(
02:44.14MyTieI don't mind.  He needed a little tough love.
02:44.40Atavismboom chicka bow w...err, wrong kind of tough love hu?
02:44.52Laihendioh atavism :)
02:45.52Atavism*purr*]
02:47.01Laihendistrikes atavism
02:47.08Laihendioh that was supposed to say strokes
02:47.13AtavismO.o
02:47.45Mowseyo.O
02:48.00Atavismmy thoughts exactly
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02:48.35Laihendihi dogelboo (:
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02:49.02BlackNethmm
02:49.02Laihendihi you :)
02:49.09BlackNetanyoen here uber good with priest healers?
02:50.25Laihendino but i did stay at a holiday inn last night?
02:50.33BlackNetwas it express?
02:50.42BlackNet:)
02:51.01Laihendiidk i forgot how the commercial goes :(
02:51.15Laihendibye bff
03:19.15JammerBlackNet: I play priest main
03:19.43BlackNetthe gm is telling this one priest to drop attonment spec because it's crap, the worst healing spec there is
03:19.45BlackNetis that true?
03:20.39Jammerif all you do is spam attonement then ye, but arch angel is quite powerful when used right
03:20.54Jammerand you'll have to take into account that when using attonement you're also contributing to damage
03:21.11BlackNetit's a 10m raid
03:21.47BlackNetlast season he said shammy's was the worst so he was on his druid and priest.
03:22.08BlackNetalso says attonment is better for 25m raids than 10m
03:22.32BlackNetany input on that?
03:22.47BlackNethttp://worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-izfu7jybqsui8gx8/sum/healingDone/ and there is the priest in question
03:22.48Jammeryou have more free time to smite in 25man for sure
03:24.11BlackNeti did say about a month ago maybe? that they are prob playing attonment wrong
03:25.34Jammeris not like you have that many other great choices in the talent tree that will make huge difference
03:27.22BlackNetthis is true
03:27.54BlackNetesp if you dont know the spec/class and all that then it really wont make that much of a difference anyways
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03:29.41Jammerarch angel is 15% boost to healing so it's not something you should overlook when played right
03:29.59BlackNeti have not looked to see when/if/how that was used
03:30.27Jammerusually the only reason I personally use attonement is to get that buff up
03:31.01Jammeror if there is no damage to heal then might aswell dps the boss a bit :p
03:31.40BlackNetlemem see what he did
03:32.21BlackNetouch
03:32.27BlackNetArchangel 7
03:32.29BlackNetthat's the count
03:33.10BlackNet1.4% uptime
03:34.50BlackNetthat's not good
03:35.52Jammerbut depending how often you use inner fire&greater heal Train of Thought might not be much better talent either :p
03:36.14BlackNetinner will?
03:36.39BlackNetdont see inner fire on the list for him at all
03:37.05Jammer*inner focus I mean
03:37.24BlackNet0.9% uptime
03:37.27BlackNet22 ticks
03:37.33BlackNethttp://worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-izfu7jybqsui8gx8/details/8/
03:37.39BlackNetthe buffs gained tab
03:37.54Jammeryeah the talent reduces the CD on it every time you cast gheal
03:37.56BlackNetor cast
03:38.30BlackNetso basically his rotation/setup is all wrong
03:46.08Jammerhis talent choices are bit odd
03:46.35Jammerstr of soul isn't that great talent imo and pain suppression and inspiration are like must have
03:51.47BlackNetyeaa my first epic gem
03:52.14Stormscapehugs dogel
03:52.35janeBlackNet: rotation sounds wrong.. and atonement even badly in the right fights can rock
03:52.56janeguild had a dps issue with ultraxion so we went 3 heals with one smite spec priest for extra dps
03:52.58BlackNetnow for the hard choice. replace the 20 parry/20 mastery or the 20 mastery / 30 stam with the 25 parry/37 stam i just had made
03:53.04Laihendihttp://www.santabot.com/
03:53.13janealthough granted we replaced enough baddies that eventually we could have let him stay his regular disc spec
03:53.13BlackNetahh
03:53.36BlackNetjane so your saying the gm is not right in what he said about attonment?
03:53.43janeit depends on the player and the fight :p
03:54.01BlackNetthis one was the ping pong boss
03:54.02JunkHeadI hit 85 today on my rogue
03:54.09BlackNetgreats
03:54.11JunkHeadmy rouge rogue
03:54.16BlackNeter grats rather
03:54.22janeyeah i dont know, ive only seen what? maybe one fight per tier where its nice. and only if the healer knows what he/she is doing
03:55.13Jammerattonement should be usable for that fight
03:55.35Jammerto get the buff up then heal 15% more with prayer of healing
03:56.12Jammerit'll also nicely smartheal the debuff targets most of time
03:56.40janei can't think of fights where it's actually bad (just broken)
03:57.00janebut 1% uptime on archangel on a fight? O.ooo
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03:57.28BlackNetthat's on not just one fight
03:57.34BlackNetthat's over the whole night
03:57.42janeohhh i wasnt paying much attention
03:57.50JunkHeadmy god...
03:57.56JunkHeadtonight sucks for randoms
03:58.22Laihendiaw i'm sorry bro :(
03:58.29BlackNeti have not done randoms today
03:58.31JunkHeadmy 2nd heroic random
03:58.35JunkHeadZA
03:58.36janeBlackNet: looked at one fight and its not much better
03:58.41JunkHeadcame in on last boss
03:58.41BlackNetyea
03:58.44JunkHead2 wipes so far
03:58.47JunkHeadAND IM TOP DPS
03:59.08BlackNetby the time you look at specific fight segments it will drop way down, esp when it says cast it 7 time in several attempts
03:59.10JunkHeadand now the group falls apart
03:59.18BlackNetJunkHead lemme guess, your tank?
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03:59.42janemeh ive never raided with disc :/ that sounds wrong though
03:59.57Jammerbut basically he's ignoring his attonement
04:00.03janeno, i went disc for like one LFR and then dumped it for holy
04:00.05Jammerthat don't really attonement itself bad
04:00.05janeyeah
04:00.09janeyeah
04:00.17Jammer*really make
04:00.44BlackNetJammer yea kinda gathered that when i was told how powerful those 2 things are
04:01.06janemy guild is really lacking in holy pallys, im kind of tempted to level one
04:01.08JunkHeadBlackNet - no. rogue in shit gear from the ah
04:01.16BlackNetas a tank my judgement on how good healers is, is based on what i dub the yo-yo effect
04:02.13janeyo-yo? O.o
04:02.25JunkHeadYO YO BIOTCH!
04:02.29JunkHeadShiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit
04:02.33JunkHeadcrosses arms
04:02.46BlackNetyea watch your health bar. if it looks like a freaking yo-yo bouncing all over the place
04:02.51janelol
04:03.17janesometimes shit happens
04:03.23janeespecially that boss that likes to crit dk tanks in ds..
04:03.24BlackNetsomeone good at healing keeps it more balanced out and smooth for the most part
04:03.35BlackNetyea sometimes shit does happen and that's why we have cd's and oh shit buttons
04:03.36Stormscape"Most men never see a vagina ... unless they use a speculum and a flashlight. However, because it is on the outside, the vulva is easily viewed. Calling the female sexual apparatus a vagina is like calling a steering wheel a car." mfw he uses the word "apparatus" to refer to a sex organ. B^U
04:03.40janeyeah
04:03.57janeI'm not sure what to think about that
04:04.00JunkHeadYou just said "mfw".
04:04.06janeif the tank is half decent, i dont let them yo-yo much
04:04.07JunkHeadI don't know what tot hink about THAT.
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04:04.21janehots and constant small heals and big ones for lots of unavoidable damage..
04:04.24janebut like dungeons oh god
04:04.36janehealing touch healing touch healing touch swiftmend WTF WHY IS HE STILL SO SQUISHY
04:04.41BlackNetprob with the yo-yo is im not sure when i need to use my heavy shit, get very defensive and often that's not good
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04:05.17janeyeah
04:05.32janeits like slow mo when it happens
04:05.46janetank almost dead, everyone heals him, then he blows like a forever minute long survival cd..
04:05.47Jammerbut but... shaman mastery makes their heals better the low your hp is!!!11
04:05.54Jammer*lower
04:06.15BlackNetyea see that often. im like ok shoudl i pop some serious shit her or what.
04:06.26janewell, i know why my guild's tanks are dying and it's not because a resto druid specced for raid healing is tank healing because we have no holy pallies.
04:06.34janecan't fucking hit the button for fading light on ultraxion
04:06.48BlackNetwe have a broccoli and she's one of the best healers i have seen. i can always tell when she's on me
04:07.03JunkHeadhttp://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/greymane/Thresher/advanced
04:07.04JunkHeadmy rogue
04:07.14Jammerawesome gear is awesome :D
04:07.16JunkHeadhaha at outDPSing people
04:07.22BlackNetlot of pvp there
04:07.32JunkHeadyup.
04:07.34janei'm a horrible healer, but i come across worse so then it makes me feel better :/
04:07.40JunkHeadtrust me though
04:07.47JunkHeadI had quest greens from hyjal and uldum.
04:07.51JunkHeadpvp = upgrade
04:08.02BlackNethoneslty anymore i stoped looking at what gear ppl are using in dungeons
04:08.06JunkHeadi gain well over 100 agi from each piece
04:08.09BlackNetyup
04:08.13JunkHeadAnd ti was dirt cheap
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04:08.16janenot even gear, just the way they do things
04:08.19BlackNetoh hey
04:08.27BlackNetlemme find it
04:08.27jane"you need to pop your mana cooldowns when i say so because i'm carrying everyone, duh
04:08.31JunkHeadI need a damn dagger.
04:08.33jane"why the fuck are you dispelling
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04:08.35jane...
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04:08.42JunkHeadmy dagge ris my main problem.
04:08.44BlackNethere
04:08.57BlackNethttp://youtu.be/xAGRjC8SAbg?hd=1 watch this. it's about 1 minute in length,
04:09.01janelfr makes me sick sometimes
04:09.10BlackNeti recorded that this am, it's my new setup im going with
04:09.17BlackNeti have yet to do the lfr stuff.
04:09.32BlackNetthe gm and his brother does that often and that makes them more confident etc
04:09.36janeits nice for practicing
04:09.36JunkHeadlooks ok. i don't like the unit frames though
04:09.49janeits also nice because we have people doing 20k dps in our 25s..
04:09.51BlackNetsec my cat just puked
04:09.52JunkHeadother than that it looks sharp
04:12.25BlackNetback
04:12.41BlackNetone of my cats has FIV and has some intestine problem. she pukes often
04:12.59BlackNetdont like the unitframes?
04:13.01jane:(
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04:14.07BlackNetjane the gm and his brother commonly say ppl need better gear etc.  i told one of the healers tonight you can substitute 'gear' with confidence for what they are saying
04:15.21janeBlackNet: yes, really
04:15.32JunkHeadwow i die don 1st boss of h BRC
04:15.42JunkHeadthe healer left.
04:15.59JunkHeadme and dk died on 1st boss
04:16.01JunkHeadhealer elaves
04:16.02BlackNeti have seen many ppl go into heroic raids with blue gear on and out perform ppl that's over geared for the content
04:16.04JunkHeadtank died
04:16.13JunkHeadboss is still at 30% hp
04:16.21JunkHeadI'm doing 15k...
04:16.28JunkHeadno idea how
04:17.08janeBlackNet: my guild said they wanted a healer when i only use it for 5 mans, and i thought i sucked a lot
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04:17.45janefast forward less than two months later, i'm having fun, think im pretty good although i have more to learn, i know what my weaknesses are and whatnot
04:18.01janedoing completely random shit to surprise others
04:18.17BlackNetthe gm's brother plays a hunter/druid mostly, he's got multiples of every class i think., anyways. i told him what ghost crawler said about bm hunters and it's instant argument that topic is :)
04:18.24janealthough occasionally i get completely stupid groups that expect me to do miracles..
04:18.37janetree can't tank all the adds and kill them in grim batol..ugh
04:19.01janemaybe if i was running with guildies
04:19.12janeas opposed to undergeared idiots bitching that the overgeared healer is a dumbass
04:19.41janeoh well.
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04:23.56BlackNethmm
04:27.38BlackNetok back again, had to give my cat this med stuff
04:27.58JunkHeadyep.
04:28.02JunkHead2nd boss of h brc
04:28.10JunkHeadthey say "whos on what add"
04:28.15JunkHeadhealer picks a side
04:28.17JunkHeadranged side
04:28.25JunkHeadI say I'll get middle
04:28.28JunkHead(rogue)
04:28.34JunkHeadtank tanks boss nowhere near me.
04:28.44BlackNetboss gets put on you
04:28.45JunkHeadthen the person on left add becomes a demon
04:28.54JunkHeadI vanished and walked off
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04:29.36atavismHowdy
04:30.11Laihendihi bff :)
04:30.39Laihendiif i ever forget who you are i'm sorry
04:31.21raspyweee
04:31.44atavismHaha.  Irc on a tablet.  This is awesome
04:32.30Laihendiso awesome
04:33.40atavismYou better believe it
04:40.26Laihendibye bff
04:46.11BlackNetok back to work for me. gotta figure out how to do a few things i need :)
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04:52.52JunkHeadmy GOD
04:52.56Laihendihi
04:52.59JunkHeadthe next group is no better
04:53.11JunkHeadnext group i get in.
04:53.15JunkHeadwere in h sfk
04:53.20JunkHeadon the cammander boss
04:53.22Laihendiwell you know what they say about pugs
04:53.30JunkHeadtank says "ok for the new guy blah blah blah"
04:53.33JunkHeadand someone pulls
04:53.39JunkHeadi laugh
04:53.59JunkHeadtonight is just pathetic
04:54.08Laihendii guess it's one of those things where you had to be there
04:54.16JunkHeadlike...
04:54.26JunkHeadimmediately after he pasted what he was doing, someone pulled.
04:54.30JunkHeadaccidentally
05:02.51Laihendiso
05:03.01Laihendiis wow still stupidly easy like it was in wotlk?
05:14.21JunkHeadwe have 2 tanks in this group
05:14.27JunkHeada blood dk and prot paladin
05:18.31JunkHeadfirst boss. h brc
05:18.36JunkHeadsigh
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05:31.51janelol
05:31.53janei'm so sorry
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05:48.44Laihendicomforts junkhead
05:49.00Laihendirealizes junkhead already left
05:59.16Laihendign u guys (:
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11:07.40Joltyawns
11:07.41JoltYo
11:10.01hyljedo a backflip
11:10.56Joltsure
11:10.57Joltthere
11:11.02hyljecool
11:11.30Joltsup hylje?
11:11.41hyljenorway
11:13.32Jolt;(
11:13.37Joltmean ol' norway
11:15.48LugburzYEAH NORWAY
11:15.50LugburzFUCK YOU
11:15.51Lugburz<PROTECTED>
11:15.58LugburzYOURE LIKE THE HAPPIEST NATION
11:16.02LugburzYOU KNOW WHAT
11:16.10LugburzFUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
11:16.12Lugburzhey Jolt wassups
11:17.21JoltNot much Lugz
11:17.34Joltwaiting for my bus to town
11:17.39Lugburzcool cool, when you movin to florida again?
11:17.45Lugburzalso joyful I bet in the winter
11:17.45Joltgotta go and buy new pants for work
11:17.53Joltsigh
11:18.06Lugburzmeh
11:18.07Jolti wish i was moving man but it's only two weeks and date havent been set yet ;)
11:18.31Lugburzah ok, Im just curious really
11:19.14Jolthehe ok
11:19.22Joltbrb!
11:19.30Lugburzkk\
11:23.26Joltback sigh so cold outside now
11:23.26Joltbrr
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11:26.32DemetriousNo cold in FL at all. Quite nice today, actually.
11:45.59JoltHehe
11:46.04Joltbut in sweden it's cold man :)
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12:15.00Jolti am off guys! see ya later this afternoon
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12:56.56Laihendiyou live in fl too???:o
12:57.38Mowseyo.o
13:01.24Laihendihi mowsey :)
13:02.05Mowseyhola
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13:17.30LaihendiD:
13:17.32neutronimity_because of my fucking router, a perfectly good blackrock depths run got ruined
13:17.49Laihendicomforts
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13:18.03Mowsey:<
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14:01.02neutronimityentire blackrock depths at lvl 50 with 4 players? challenge accepted
14:02.13MowseyI'm thinking of buying the valor helm, since after 20+ runs of well of eternity my other helm hasn't dropped -.-
14:02.54kullervoha ha
14:03.32kullervoMowsey: back in tbc, the rare dungeon trinkets...
14:04.26Mowseyyeah yeah, uphill both ways in a blizzard
14:04.53StormscapeSo this guy on Slashdot is a genius. He thinks Microsoft is gonna use HDDVD for the next Xbox because "good luck finding any discs to pirate the games with"
14:05.15kullervoeheh.
14:06.14kullervoi don't always fail at logic, but when I do, I don't
14:08.20StormscapeMowsey, why, we didn't have feet back then -- too poor!
14:08.22neutronimitytroll hunter ninjaed item from boss. then the 2nd dps left. then the healer left. then it was just me and the hunter.
14:08.34neutronimitychallenge failed
14:08.45neutronimityall because of some ego players
14:09.01neutronimitynow I can't continue because I have no way to call for more people
14:09.04neutronimitycan only queue for new
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14:12.12Mowseyblames Noxy
14:12.30Noxywhat I do now
14:12.43Mowseystuff
14:12.45Mowseypossibly some things
14:12.56Noxy):
14:13.02neutronimityWe got up to this guy http://www.wowhead.com/npc=8983 then the hunter needed on http://www.wowhead.com/item=11819
14:13.28Mowseygoddamn huntards
14:14.31NoxyHEY.
14:14.35NoxyI NEED THAT STRENGTH.
14:14.48NoxyIT BOOSTS RANGED ATK DIDNT YOU KNOW?
14:15.28NoxyA hunter in one of my randoms said that after needing on the Bloodhoof axe.
14:15.51NoxyAfter our tank had needed on it for his offspec :|
14:15.52Mowsey:/
14:16.00NoxyAnd the hunter won it. :|
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14:45.36neutronimityfull stack of copper ore going for 17g. full stack of copper bar going for 65g. $$$$$$$$
14:45.45Mowseylol
14:45.52neutronimitymmm
14:45.54neutronimitythat's cheap
14:46.05neutronimityI can just buy all the ore and smelt them into bars =3
14:46.15neutronimityMONEY + TRADESKILL LEVEL UP
14:59.41Stormscape“We were married by a justice of the peace,” he recalled. “We stood in line with 30 drunken Mexicans who had just been arrested. The justice of the peace pushed me aside and asked if I had $25. I did. He married us right then and there with 30 drunken Mexicans as our witnesses.”
14:59.43StormscapeWinning
15:27.19Laihendihahaha xD
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15:31.28neutronimitywtf?
15:31.36neutronimityI get the instance quests at the end of the instance?
15:31.46Stormscapetrololo
15:32.46AndroUser2Any prot warriors around atm
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15:38.34tatehm
15:38.42tatei got some raid-finder things :}
15:38.49tatemeow, happykitty
15:39.04tatehttp://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/stormreaver/Briisti/simple
15:39.33tatedisclaimer: that's alt :}
15:40.28tankkorialstraszAny one seen or have the mount from ds yet?
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15:46.15DanielSamuelswe have the normal rag one
15:46.37DanielSamuelson this char: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/darkmoon-faire/perfidus/advanced
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16:13.01DemetriousDoes anyone knows of a Mr. Robot, but for PvP?
16:13.41DanielSamuelsI remember reading something about the possibility of it being a part of ARM, PvP that is
16:14.05DanielSamuelshttp://forums.askmrrobot.com/index.php?topic=1093.0
16:14.10DanielSamuelsapparently it does do it already
16:14.47DanielSamuelsI imagine that if you log out in PvP gear it will change to show PvP things
16:15.14DemetriousHmm, let me check. Thanks.
16:18.29DemetriousIt is interesting that is does not recommends adding resilience (other that what it comes with the PvP gear).
16:18.46AzelphurDemetrious: doesn't look like it does for me
16:18.57DemetriousGem/enchant wise, I meant.
16:19.06AzelphurDemetrious: I'm logged out in full ruthless/cata, and it's best in slotting me PvE gear :P
16:19.11Azelphur*shrug*
16:19.29Demetrioushttp://www.askmrrobot.com/wow/gear/usa/eitrigg/agapetus#v1-z1-oA08B3T4620
16:19.35DemetriousIt is not for me.
16:19.59Azelphuryea it is, go to the best in slot tab
16:20.16DemetriousOh dear!
16:20.23DemetriousI stand corrected.
16:20.28Azelphurhehe
16:21.19AzelphurI imagine the gem recommendations it's giving you are for PvE too
16:21.36DemetriousStill, discarding the best in slot, I don't think the rest is quite accurate.
16:22.52DemetriousThere are no much differences, I would assume, with the exception of resilience (and either random BG or Arena (when it comes to mana regen)
16:23.21Azelphurluckily I'm a mage so it's easy
16:23.26Azelphurwhen in doubt add more int.
16:23.40DemetriousSame on priest.
16:23.47Azelphurhehe
16:23.58DemetriousInt > Spi > Sp > ...
16:24.55DemetriousWhat it confused me, and made me think it is not right is the lack of suggestion for hit. For PvP you need it.
16:25.20DemetriousOtherwise fear/mc will miss.
16:25.25Azelphuryou only need 4% hit in PvP
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16:25.35DemetriousRight.
16:26.56Stormscape...well that's a new one. Got faster than my line speed on speedtest.net
16:27.44AzelphurStormscape: I once broke the space time continuum and got -1kbps down on speedtest xD
16:27.57Stormscapehttp://speedtest.net/result/1648507337.png I have a 50/3 line
16:28.00Stormscapehaters gonna hate
16:28.21Azelphur:)
16:28.25AzelphurStormscape: I'd imagine your on a 50/3 line but have some burst
16:28.37StormscapeNope.
16:28.38StormscapeNo burst
16:28.44StormscapeThe burst is the line speed
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17:01.59AtavismHowdy
17:09.38g0urrahm. vicious armor (that doesn't drop) and weapons are gone
17:13.19Atavismworth coming back to wow right now?  stopped at launch of cata
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17:15.54Mr_Rabiesdepends on why you quit playing i guess
17:16.31Atavismraiding was you had to be x class and spec into y
17:19.39kullervoraiding high end, you still want to spec into y
17:20.26Atavismis it all cookie cutter still?
17:20.38kullervodepends on class
17:21.31Atavismis healing a pita still?  I liked WOTLK healing :)
17:21.34Atavismi could see the fights and not just health bars
17:23.04kullervohealing is more fun now, but I haven't played a healer in many heroic fights so it might be different in reality
17:23.37Atavismi was a druid healer, they a viable option?
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17:24.15Mr_Rabies<Atavism> raiding was you had to be x class and spec into y
17:24.22Mr_Rabiesthis really hasn't been true forever
17:24.26Freyja[The Wowhead Blog] Feast of Winter Veil (December 15 - January 2) Guide - http://www.wowheadnews.com/blog=198662/feast-of-winter-veil-december-15-january-2-guide
17:24.33Mr_Rabiesmaybe for cutting edge raiding but who really cares about that
17:25.34Mr_Rabiesi've raided as feral since late vanilla, even though it's been at varying states of viability
17:26.23Mr_Rabiesjust find a good raid group and go in and have fun
17:26.44Atavismi always thought that, but i get self concious
17:26.48Atavismits weird
17:28.17Mr_Rabiesdon't worry about it, "the best" spec is usually only marginally better than the worst spec nowadays
17:28.33Mr_Rabiesclass balance is closer than it has ever been, despite what forums idiots might say
17:29.25Atavismi always wish it were 'dont worry about it' i'm an adult with a complex about a video game - talk about odd
17:30.53Mr_Rabiesi was feral before 1.7 so my IDGAF sense is pretty high
17:31.09Atavismhaha
17:31.34Atavismferal through burning crusade...thats hardcore ;)
17:33.30Laihendihi atavism :)
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17:35.10AtavismHey Laihendi bff
17:35.13Atavismhaha
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19:01.26NoxyWay to make it worse, neutronimity. I was just trying to break the silence.
19:01.42Joltblooorgh
19:01.45neutronimityFewyn started it!
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19:02.22Jolt:D
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19:14.21Joltwe need moar ferrets
19:14.32Mowseybut I only have one!
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19:43.33Azelphurwhat's the best enchant for mage bracers, mighty (+50) intellect?
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22:43.45Laihendiso i was at my optometrists office today
22:43.50Laihendiwho is a total milf btw
22:44.00Laihendiand she gave me a tissue. she read me mind :o
22:44.12Laihendimy**
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23:38.49Chosifewyn: awww did i hurt your feelings by complaining about how a company releases a game? you're pathetic.
23:39.04*** mode/#wowhead [+b *!*osxchosi@unaffiliated/chosi] by fewyn
23:39.04*** kick/#wowhead [Chosi!~fewyn@fewyn.net] by fewyn (Perhaps you should try real life for a while)
23:40.42JunkHeadhuh?
23:41.01JunkHeadhow long ago did... whatever that was happen??
23:41.02fewynhe was in #torhead trolling the channel
23:41.15fewynhe was complaining about launch and then said he didn't even buy the game
23:41.39fewynshrug
23:41.49fewyndon't feel like putting up with him
23:41.49Stormscapeoh yeah that's right I need to get ready for work
23:41.55Stormscapeit's so weird working in the evening
23:48.17tate[01:47:18] [P] [85:Cig]: pala, can you dispell or nope?
23:48.17tate[01:47:21] [P] [85:Cig]: is that so hard? :I
23:48.17tate[01:47:31] [DG] [85:Zalimsa-Dar]: i can just did not know i had too ;)
23:48.17tate[01:47:47] [P] [85:Cig]: Shift button + J
23:48.19tate[01:47:57] [DG] [85:Zalimsa-Dar]: i had never dont that boss;)
23:48.24tateshit, wrong window!
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