IRC log for #wowhead on 20111212

00:01.28Stormscapethe thread to go with this image is even better. "Half Life 3, Coming exclusively to Origin" "Published by EA AND Activision!" "Made by THQ" "Designed by Peter Molyneux" "Lighting effects by JJ Abrams" "Bug testing by Bethesda"
00:03.37tateyea
00:03.49tateu fucker got me into reddit
00:03.52tatethanks a lot
00:04.06kullervomwehehehehe
00:04.42neutronimityon my wishlist
00:04.46neutronimityhl2 ep 3
00:06.12StormscapeIt's never going to come out
00:06.15StormscapeValve can't count to 3
00:06.48neutronimityI've heard that before
00:06.53neutronimitywhat about 2.5
00:07.18tatehow do i do the ó_ó -smiley?
00:07.20tatethe cool one
00:07.33StormscapeGet RES.
00:07.45tateಠ_ಠ
00:07.54tateლ(ಠ益ಠ)ლ
00:07.55Stormscapehttp://redditenhancementsuite.com/
00:08.03tateoh it works on opera
00:08.05tatecool
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00:08.34StormscapeConsidering it's just a few thousand lines of JavaScript
00:08.36Stormscapeit damn well better
00:13.17kullervondeed, should be fanchy html5 stuff that doesnt work anywhere
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00:33.00Stormscapehttp://i.imgur.com/lc7xD.png
00:36.38neutronimitythose personal appeals really got on my nerves
00:37.12StormscapeWhat I see whenever I see Jimmy Wales on Wikipedia with the personal appeal
00:37.15Stormscape"I need like 5 bucks"
00:37.48neutronimityhttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/foundation/7/77/Susan_172.gif
00:37.49neutronimityeww
00:46.54Stormscape"Why can't America have online voting?" "Because moot would win all of the votes."
00:47.29Mr_RabiesStormscape: http://i.imgur.com/NrmgK.jpg
00:47.41Stormscapeoh god
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00:48.09Mr_Rabieshere let me help: http://i.imgur.com/pueXj.gif
00:51.00Stormscape.gif
00:51.02Stormscapenopenopenope
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00:54.47Stormscapedogel: "Pervvy old man who lives near me's licence plate: RU18QT"
00:55.36Stormscape"Shriners are masons in silly hats afaik"
00:55.38StormscapeTIL
00:56.34AzelphurIs there any way to see someone elses "Character stats", when you inspect them you only get to see what they are wearing, rather than the popout to the side that shows all the interesting stuff
01:00.39dogelnsfw
01:00.39dogelhttp://i.imgur.com/chRfE.jpg
01:03.00Stormscapedogel: LOLWUT
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01:03.24Stormscapeif that's an actual tattoo and not just a shoop
01:03.25dogeli know eh
01:03.26dogelLOL
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01:12.28neutronimityTIL?
01:12.43neutronimityI've been to the internet for years and I still don't know that one
01:16.39StormscapeToday I learned
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01:20.05neutronimityOhh.
01:20.21fewyntil is from reddit
01:20.25fewynwell not really
01:20.33fewynbut it was made more common there
01:22.26Stormscapedogel, did you see this: http://www.eastportlandblog.com/2011/12/10/on-craigslist-vancouver-bc-woman-seeks-job-as-groupie/
01:22.40Stormscape"I promise to wear super tight, revealing clothing and super high heels. I’m also cultured enough to know that you dance to the BASS, so I’m totally going to have to blow the bass player at some point, even though I know they’re usually the fat pigs of the band."
01:23.03Stormscape"$200 a week is my starting rate, and it goes up based upon how bad your band is, or how ugly your bassist is"
01:28.31neutronimityhttp://i.imgur.com/lgT12.jpg lol
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01:52.29neutronimityhttp://i.imgur.com/7rOmC.jpg
01:53.36tateTrying to find a love supreme
01:53.38tateA love supreme!
01:53.50tateCome and live a love supreme
01:53.55tateDon't let it get you down
01:53.59tateEverybody lives for loveeeeeeeEEE
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01:54.30tate._.
01:54.34tatehe didn't like me singing
01:57.20Lugburzobviously
01:57.31Lugburzneutronimity: do you use a custom UI as well?
01:57.36Lugburzthe default one is just fine for me, I like it
01:57.39neutronimityyeah
01:57.53tatewut custom ui is dat
01:57.56tatelooking cool
01:58.00neutronimitythis made me orgasm: http://www.rawksteady.com/knhud/
01:58.30tatetyvm
01:59.04Lugburztate you're a custom UI
01:59.31tatestgfugf
02:11.03tatehttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/50860224/bart.png
02:11.04tatelold
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03:12.34Laihendiwussup bros
03:12.52StormscapeGoddammit how is it that a simple album can be so hard to find
03:13.07tateö_ö
03:13.10tateufail
03:13.13tateanyways, family guy ->
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03:59.11LugburzStormscape: cuz u 2 busee wit da cawk
03:59.23StormscapeT_T
04:00.31dogelhttp://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=31482900&postcount=876
04:00.39dogeli like this RAGE cover art
04:01.46Stormscapethat's pretty owning
04:02.20dogelcant wait until next gen consoles come out
04:02.31dogeli want a cheap ps3 already damnit
04:03.01StormscapeI like how you can STILL buy brand new PS2s
04:03.04dogelhttp://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=26160737&postcount=461 hhhnnnnggg
04:03.22dogelhttp://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=26199702&postcount=516 OH GOD this killzone 3 art
04:03.44StormscapeSexy
04:03.54dogelhttp://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=26183452&postcount=486  seriously why cant boxes be like this anymore
04:04.21StormscapeAlso I doubt PS3s are going to drop much below $200 even once new systems are out
04:04.27dogelsadly true
04:04.29Stormscapesince that's what they sell as right now for 40gb models
04:04.30dogelbut as long as its around
04:04.33dogel200 range
04:04.34dogeland not
04:04.42Stormscapeand with the 40gb model
04:04.43dogel300-400 depending on hd size
04:04.43Stormscapeyou can just
04:04.45Stormscapereplace the drive
04:04.47dogelswap hd
04:04.48dogelyeah
04:05.04Stormscapeunlike the 360
04:05.05StormscapeLOL
04:05.16dogelyou can swap 360 hds
04:05.31Stormscapeoh, really? I remember people complaining non-stop when they first came out
04:05.33Stormscapethat you couldn't
04:05.37dogelim not sure if regular and slim 360s can swap though
04:05.38dogelyeah :|
04:05.47dogelwhere the hell did you get that idea
04:05.56dogelmaybe when it came out
04:06.15dogelsometimes joe you gotta brush up on your background knowledge before you talk >_>
04:06.20Stormscape>_>
04:06.29StormscapeWell is it as easy as it is with PS3?
04:06.40dogelyou pop out the drive
04:06.42dogelstick another in
04:06.43dogel:|
04:06.47Stormscape:|
04:06.51dogelseriously.
04:06.58dogelthey are removable for a reason.
04:07.01Stormscapethen why the fuck was my friend complaining like a fucking bitch when they first came out
04:07.05Corgandogel
04:07.05Stormscapethat you couldn't swap the drives
04:07.07Corganthoughts? http://i.imgur.com/yWQIe.png
04:07.13dogelbecause your friend is a fuckin bitch
04:07.14dogelobv
04:07.17Stormscapeobv
04:07.30dogelCorgan: i dont like the color scheme of that helm
04:07.34Corgan:(
04:07.41dogelits a cool helmet
04:07.48CorganFINE OK
04:07.52dogelI LOVE YOU
04:07.52dogel:(
04:08.01dogelcome back ;_;
04:08.02Corganhttp://www.wowhead.com/transmog-set=532
04:08.04Stormscapeokay dogel I figured out what I was talking about
04:08.05CorganALTERNATIVE
04:08.06Stormscape"For now, you can only use Microsoft-approved Xbox 360 hard drives with the console."
04:08.10Stormscapethat was the sticking point
04:08.14StormscapePS3 will take any 2.5" drive
04:08.37dogelwhat about it
04:08.38dogelLOL
04:08.53dogelStormscape: well yes because the 360 hds are shaped differently
04:08.59Corganlets all circle jerk about consoles
04:09.02Corganand which one is better
04:09.03StormscapeYeah that's what I meant
04:09.08dogelyeah
04:09.10Stormscapebut I word poorly
04:09.14dogelOBVIOUSLY YOU CANT SWITCH IT WITH OTHER THINGS
04:09.17dogeljesus
04:09.25dogelCorgan: they're all good, but wii is sub-par
04:09.32StormscapeWii U will be a beast though
04:09.37Corgantoo bad the Wii is the most fun.
04:09.37dogelat least it runs gamecube games
04:09.46dogeli had so much fun with de blob
04:09.59Corgannot quite sure what's "subpar" about it
04:10.00StormscapeTrue fact: Wii is so basic in its hardware it can be emulated perfectly by a PC
04:10.05StormscapeCorgan, the hardwaree
04:10.11Corganlaughs
04:10.12Corganwhy
04:10.18Corganbecause of the graphics?
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04:10.30Corganthis just in, graphics dont' make a game good
04:10.37dogelwell. yes
04:10.44dogelbut it's still nice to see pretty things
04:10.48dogelother than that
04:10.49dogelwii is good
04:10.54dogelhomebrew is nice
04:10.59dogeland easily pirated games
04:11.16Corganit's not like the wii is terrible in terms of graphics
04:11.26Corganskyward sword looks awesome
04:11.27dogellack of decent onboard hd is a bit of a nuisance too
04:11.39dogeli dont wanna find a sd card to shove in there
04:11.45dogeli dont even think i have one lying around atm
04:11.54dogelskyward sword looks great
04:12.04dogeli wanna try it but i know ill never finish it
04:12.10dogeli have never finished a loz game
04:12.15Stormscapeneither have I
04:12.18dogelDIDNT EVEN GET OUT OF FIRST VILLAGE ON OOT
04:12.20dogel:|
04:13.33dogeloh oh btw Corgan
04:13.38Corganhmm
04:13.41dogeli used to have that bow on the uh
04:13.44dogeluh whats it called
04:13.45dogelgoblin
04:13.46dogel:D
04:13.57dogelits a pretty bow
04:13.57Corganmmhmm
04:14.09dogeli didnt want to replace it
04:14.12dogelinfact i think its still in my bank
04:14.13Corgangoblin best race
04:14.25Corganhttp://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/illidan/Rallina/advanced
04:14.31dogelthe racial abilities are intense
04:14.34Stormscapedogel
04:14.35Stormscapehttp://i.imgur.com/PEAmx.jpg
04:14.41dogeloh shit that face
04:14.46dogelcame 10x
04:15.12dogelYOU HAVE 3 UNENCHANTED ITEMS
04:15.16dogelAND 7 EMPTY SOCKETS
04:15.18CorganI know
04:15.20dogelget on it >:(
04:15.27Corganpish
04:15.36CorganTotal time played: 8 days, 2 hours, 45 minutes, 24 seconds
04:15.36CorganTime played this level: 0 days, 13 hours, 20 minutes, 29 seconds
04:15.56dogeli have no idea what any of these items are
04:15.58dogellololo
04:15.59Stormscapeoh jesus christ dogel click on the mists of pandaria talent calculator
04:16.05Stormscapelook at how many talents there'll be now
04:16.16dogelhow do i do dis
04:16.40Corganhonk honk dogel
04:16.42CorganHONK HONK
04:16.49dogelbeep
04:17.06CorganI killed deathwing within 10 hours of hitting level 85
04:17.06Corgan:D
04:17.12Stormscapeherp derp you only get 6 talents
04:17.17Stormscapewhat the fuck is dis shit
04:17.27Corganuh
04:17.29Corganbalanced?
04:17.31dogeldeathwing is that um
04:17.33Corganand much better
04:17.35dogelblack dragon dude right
04:17.39Corganyes
04:17.42dogel:D
04:18.01StormscapeCorgan, all it does is make cookie cutter builds even easier
04:18.04CorganStormscape, they made talents more about choice
04:18.07Corganand less cookie cutter
04:18.08Corganlol
04:18.09Corganok
04:18.12Corgango look at the talents
04:18.16Corganand tell me which one is the best one
04:18.24Corganprotip: there isn't one
04:18.46Corganthey aren't flat out +5% damage increases
04:18.47StormscapeI can do it easily
04:18.49StormscapePvE or PvP?
04:18.52Corganthey're situational
04:18.56CorganPvE
04:19.09Corganfor which class
04:19.11StormscapeI'll do Priest since I played one for 4 years
04:19.13Stormscapeshadow
04:19.36dogeli like how guys always try to 1up each other
04:19.38StormscapeLevel 15: Void Tendrils. I'd rather not have enemies running off like morons
04:19.39CorganI don't even know where the calculator is
04:19.44dogeltis amusing from a bystander's standpoint
04:19.50StormscapeCorgan, http://us.battle.net/wow/en/game/mists-of-pandaria/feature/talent-calculator#X!
04:20.24StormscapeLevel 30: Toss up between Body and Soul and Phantasm
04:20.28StormscapeLevel 45: Archangel
04:21.02StormscapeLevel 60: Desperate Prayer
04:21.06StormscapeLevel 75: Power Infusion
04:21.20StormscapeLevel 90: Vampiric Dominance
04:21.35Corgangiggles
04:21.40dogelholy shit level 90
04:21.41dogelLOL
04:21.47CorganI would disagree with those, since a lot of those are choices
04:21.56Corgantwist of fate could be better in a given situation (75)
04:21.57Djanenah
04:22.03Djanefor shadow they're pretty much the only choices.
04:22.08Corganpish
04:22.16StormscapeTwist of Fate is worthless compared to Power Infusion
04:22.21Djanepower infusion is almost always going to be better than twist of fate
04:22.22StormscapePI is an unamibigous DPS increase
04:22.27Djaneunless a boss has a MASSIVE execute phase.
04:22.47CorganFinal Prayer could be better over Desperate Prayer
04:22.51DjanePI will stack with other cooldowns, stacking cooldowns have always been powerful, mostly due to shadowfiend(and most recently shadower apps_
04:23.18dogeltransmorph trap sounds cool
04:23.19Djaneon a gimmick fight yes
04:23.21StormscapeI'd rather have DP over FP
04:23.25dogelignores the priest discussion
04:23.27Djanedepends on fight
04:23.45DjaneThere might be a gimmick fight with massive aoe pulse every 30 seconds
04:23.45StormscapeFP would be good on a gimmick fight
04:23.45Djaneerr 90 seconds
04:24.05StormscapeDivine Star honestly sounds really gimmicky
04:24.07Corganor you know, not using a cooldown
04:24.12dogelwhoa whoa whoa
04:24.13Corganpassive > active
04:24.16dogeldruid has 4 specs
04:24.20Djanewrongs
04:24.29Arkaendongs
04:24.32Djaneactive > passive if skilled.
04:24.35Stormscape^
04:24.36Corganlol
04:24.40Arkaendepends on passive
04:24.42Corganok
04:24.42Arkaenlike old ardent defender
04:24.44Arkaenshit was b0rk son
04:24.47CorganArkaen
04:24.56Corganheal 30% of max health on button push
04:25.08Corganor 20% absorbtion shield when you go below 30%
04:25.17Stormscapeand shield has 90 second CD
04:25.23Corganfirst has 2 min CD, shield has 90second CD
04:25.29Arkaenshield
04:25.37Arkaenbecause A)
04:25.38Corgan^_^
04:25.44ArkaenI'm too dumb to push buttons
04:25.49Corganthis just in, these talents are choices
04:25.52ArkaenB) DEAL WITH IT
04:25.53StormscapeAt least he's truthful
04:26.12StormscapeCorgan, notice how it's a max of 2 choices per tier
04:26.14Corganand if you're stuck in a GCD when you get hit with something?
04:26.19CorganStormscape, uh, yeah
04:26.20Corganno shit
04:26.22Arkaenmost lifesavers aren't on GCD
04:26.23Arkaenafaik
04:26.24Stormscapeand on at least 2 of the tiers they're both shit
04:26.32Corganalso what you said
04:26.34Corgan"Level 30: Toss up between Body and Soul and Phantasm"
04:26.38Corganthat's the whole point
04:26.42Corganthere isn't a cookie cutter
04:26.46Arkaenis body and soul the MS boost thing
04:26.46StormscapeCorgan tbh I'd rather take neither of those
04:26.51Stormscapeand take both from level 45
04:26.55Djaneof course there is Corgan
04:26.57Corganno shit?
04:27.01CorganDjane, not really
04:27.03Djaneit's just the cookie cutter has shifted from Per raid to Per fight
04:27.06Corganhttp://us.battle.net/wow/en/game/mists-of-pandaria/feature/talent-calculator#U!
04:27.07Stormscape^
04:27.11DjaneConsider this
04:27.12StormscapeHave fun respeccing for every boss
04:27.16DjaneYou take no damager in the fight ever
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04:27.27Stormscapeaka Patchwerk
04:27.28Djanewhy would you EVER not take path of the devout?
04:27.32ArkaenDjane, high end people respecced for every fight in a lot of cases anyways
04:27.38DjaneArkaen, yes, like me.
04:27.42ArkaenUnlike me
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04:27.52Djanelots of snares? Phantasm.
04:27.52Corganseriously though
04:27.53Arkaenall I do is not play and occasionally level alts.
04:27.54Stormscapehonestly all 3 of the level 30 priest talents
04:27.56Stormscapefeel like filler
04:27.58Corganlook at dat druid tree
04:28.04Arkaenare the new talents in yet
04:28.06StormscapeYes
04:28.09Stormscapehttp://us.battle.net/wow/en/game/mists-of-pandaria/feature/talent-calculator#Xb!
04:28.11Corganwhat
04:28.12Corganno
04:28.15Corganthere's just a talent calculator
04:28.17Arkaenoh
04:28.18Arkaengood
04:28.20Stormscapetrollface.jpg
04:28.26Arkaeni don't like the new ones.
04:28.32Djanethere will be cookie cutter specs, however, in any given fight, half the talents will be meaningless, 1 of the tiers will be relevant and there's a RIGHT AND A WRONG
04:28.38Djaneand the rest are meaningless flavour that don't affect pve.
04:28.41StormscapeLet's take a look at my only other character I cared about
04:28.42DjaneThe talents for pve are -horrific0
04:28.43StormscapeWarrior
04:28.53CorganDjane, that's the pooiiiinnntttttt
04:29.01Corganthe talents are just for flavor
04:29.05Corganthey're a choice
04:29.07StormscapeWarrior Level 15: Double Time = hilarious
04:29.08Djaneno no
04:29.11Corganthey don't have a HUGE IMPACT
04:29.11Djaneflavour as in they do NOTHING
04:29.18DjaneConsider priests.
04:29.22raspyhmmm
04:29.28CorganI honestly think they're going to change a lot of those priest talents
04:29.28Corganfyi
04:29.29StormscapePriest Level 15: tbh all 3 are shit for raids
04:29.30DjaneTier 1 : CC. Unless they change raiding paradigm significantly, pointless.
04:29.40DjaneTier 2 : Utterly fight dependant, no choice really.
04:29.45Corganhttp://us.battle.net/wow/en/game/mists-of-pandaria/feature/talent-calculator#U!
04:29.48Corganseems to be what they're going for
04:29.48DjaneTier 3 : Shadow? No choice.
04:29.52Corganin regards to choices
04:29.56DjaneTier 4 : Entirely fight dependant, no choice.
04:30.01DjaneTier 5 : Lol no choice.
04:30.04DjaneTier 6 : lol no choice.
04:30.28Stormscapelet's do mages next
04:30.29Stormscape:D
04:30.53DjaneTier 1 : Scorch, always scorch, why anything else?
04:30.55dogelfor once this chat is actually about wow
04:31.11CorganI like how
04:31.15DjaneTier 2 : Choose your flavour of survivability.
04:31.17Corganyou're giving your opinion on what's best
04:31.23StormscapeDjane, read Ice Floes
04:31.29Corganbecause like
04:31.35Corganthat's the whole point
04:31.41DjaneCorgan, no, you're missing the point.
04:31.44Corganthere is no clear cut best
04:31.45DjaneThese talents don't give any options.
04:31.52Corganreally?
04:31.53Stormscapethese talents manage to have even less choice
04:31.57Stormscapeesp for shadow priests
04:31.57DjaneThere ARE clear cut bests, but those bests will rely on the fight itself.
04:32.06CorganI could very easily choose what I want from this
04:32.12Stormscapeif you're shadow and don't take Power Infusion you might as well quit life
04:32.14Corganwhich kind of polymorph do I want
04:32.18Corganwhich kind of survivability
04:32.30DjaneIs there a fight where raiders need to move real quick? Body and soul? Anything else? Uninstall
04:32.38Corganhardly.
04:32.44DjaneFor any serious raider, yes.
04:32.51Corganlol.
04:33.00DjaneIf you didn't take body and soul, as a priest, as a serious raider, for that fight. Out of my raid.
04:33.09Corganlaughs
04:33.10StormscapeAgreed
04:33.12Djaneunless the fight is 90% execute phase
04:33.20DjaneAnd you don't take power infusion? Stop being bad.
04:33.31Corganalso like I said, I'm sure they'll change the priest talents
04:33.39DjaneAnd for polymorphy
04:33.41Corgancause they're mostly just flat dps increases
04:33.45DjaneAre there two adds that need polymorphing?
04:33.53DjaneDon't have double polymorph? Gtfo.
04:33.58Stormscapedouble is probably the ultimate one in general
04:33.58Corgan..
04:33.58Corganlol
04:34.00Stormscapeuse in heroics
04:34.02Stormscapelike a boss
04:34.24Corgansee, I would disagree
04:34.32CorganHeavy Polymorph is very strong
04:34.34Stormscapeoh god Djane, look at the warrior one
04:34.39StormscapeLevel 1: Double Time
04:34.41Stormscapeuse charge twice per CD
04:34.42Corgana 3 second stun when coming out of polymorph?
04:34.43DjaneCorgan, excepting gimmicks, the cookie cutter mage is Scorch, Ice barrier, Ice ward, Cauterise, Irrelevant, whatever spec you are.
04:34.48DjaneCorgan, useless for pve.
04:34.53Corganrofl
04:35.00Corganok
04:35.08Corganexcept not really
04:35.09Stormscapetbh bad mage is bad if he can't re-poly in time
04:35.13DjaneThe new talent trees are -great- for pvp.
04:35.19DjaneNo complaints there.
04:35.23Corganahhhhh missing the point
04:35.31DjaneBut they're utterly rubbish for pve.
04:35.37DjaneThey don't offer choice, they limit it.
04:35.50StormscapeDjane, Tier 3 Warrior: Cripple
04:35.55Stormscapeauto-attack turns into hamstring
04:35.59DjaneGot a fight where you need someone to avoid death ala algalon every 2 minutes?
04:36.12DjaneWhat's that mage, you're not taking cauterise?
04:36.16DjaneGtfo.
04:36.42Corganreally?
04:36.46Corganwhat if he took cold snap
04:36.48Corganand iceblocked it
04:36.54Corgangasp
04:36.55Djane5 minute cooldown
04:36.56Corganwhat's that?
04:36.57Corgana choice?
04:36.57DjaneGtfo
04:36.58Stormscape5 minute cd
04:37.01Stormscapegtfo noob
04:37.01Corganuh huh
04:37.11Corganiceblock the first one
04:37.17Corgancoldsnap ice block the second one
04:37.18Djanebecause that kind of mechanic has historically been more about 1 minute or so
04:37.20DjaneNot 2.5
04:37.28dogelbetter to have cauterize i think cause i'd rather have a half dead and burning mage than a dead mage
04:37.29DjaneSo you'd share with say, a spriest/whatever.
04:37.33Corganactually, more like 90s
04:37.43DjaneYes, 90s is reasonable.
04:37.47Corganand even then
04:37.49DjaneUltraxion is about 60, algalon was about 90
04:37.56Corgancauterize would function just as good as ice block
04:37.58DjaneMage that takes ice flows of presence of mind?
04:38.02DjaneDps loss.
04:38.02Corganwell, ice block/cold snap
04:38.09Corgannot always ^_^
04:38.12Djanealways.
04:38.23DjaneIn every fight I've ever done as a mage, which is...all of them.
04:38.25Stormscapeice flows actually looks kinda cool
04:38.27Stormscapepardon the pun
04:38.32dogelyeah but iceblock/cold snap still only works every 5 mins right
04:38.38dogeland cauterize can happen every 2 mins
04:38.54Stormscapeiceblock/cs is max 2.5 minutes
04:38.56DjaneStormscape, aye, if you move 4 seconds worth of movement per 75 seconds
04:39.04Djaneice flows could be good.
04:39.05Corganif you have osmething that happens every 90 seconds
04:39.09Corganyou can iceblock the first
04:39.12Corgancoldsnap iceblock the second
04:39.18Stormscapeand then?
04:39.20Corganfor cauterize, you can only use it on the first
04:39.27Corganand then?
04:39.27DjaneCauterise the first
04:39.30Djaneice block the second
04:39.32Djanecauterise the third
04:39.33Stormscape^
04:39.34DjaneLulz
04:39.38Corganand the fourth?
04:39.45Stormscape3 > 2
04:39.46DjaneHave someone else take it
04:39.48Djane3 > 2
04:39.53dogelcauterize happens immediately right
04:39.56StormscapeYes
04:39.57DjaneYeah
04:40.00Corganuh
04:40.01dogelwhat if you have fail reflex and dont iceblock in time
04:40.02dogelD:
04:40.06DjaneAnd with glyph of evocate, it's meaningless damage.
04:40.19Stormscapeor even better
04:40.23Stormscapeif you got a shadow priest
04:40.25Corgansigh
04:40.26Stormscapecauterise the first
04:40.28Stormscapedisperse the second
04:40.31Stormscapecauterise the third
04:40.33DjaneDisperse the second, rinse and repeat.
04:40.34Stormscaperepeat
04:40.42Stormscapeherp derp raiding is hard
04:40.48DjaneCorgan, this is our point. These are not choices. Two things will happen
04:40.52Corganok
04:40.54DjaneEIther it doesn't matter
04:40.59Corganhere's their point
04:41.01DjaneBecause you could pick whatever and you know, whatever.
04:41.04CorganI highly doubt your raid will hinge on whether you took cauterize or iceblock
04:41.09DjaneIn which case, you won't actually use your talent.
04:41.12dogelStormscape: raiding = pressing a sequence of buttons in the same order depending on fight
04:41.14dogellollo
04:41.17Stormscapetrololo
04:41.18DjaneOr it matters, and there's a right choice and a wrong choice.
04:41.28dogeltotally what i did
04:41.31DjaneAre there any adds in the fight? Then it matters NOTHING as to what polymorph you take
04:41.33dogel1 2 3 4 5 in that order
04:41.38Stormscaperaiding is hard, that's why the combat rogue in my WoW guild played Pokemon on his DS while fighting Putricide on 25
04:41.41dogelspecial buttons for special fights keybound to mouse
04:41.57dogelif no special buttons its FD and MD
04:42.08DjaneIs there a mob that needs to be cc'd but not healed? OH YOU DIDN'T TAKE SICKLY POLYMORPH? gtfo.
04:42.17Stormscapetwist of fate is always worthless for priests unless the boss has so much HP that the execute phase lasts a year
04:42.25DjaneStormscape, not even then
04:42.34DjaneIt has to be you spend longer at 20% than at other 20% increments
04:42.35Stormscapeeven then
04:42.36StormscapeI'd take PI
04:42.46DjaneIt has to be, 80% of hte fight is at 20% etc
04:42.54DjaneAlso, you can give PI to others.
04:42.55StormscapeSo basically
04:42.56StormscapeVael
04:43.06dogelhow much damage increase does twist of fate give
04:43.06DjaneSo you could stack it on your best dps.
04:43.27DjaneWarlock doing 5k more than anyone else, 3 priests in the raid?
04:43.29DjanePI, PI,PI.
04:43.44Stormscapewarlock basically gets non-stop heroism
04:44.02DjaneMassive damage phase incoming? PI On the shaman healer
04:44.13DjaneSomeone just got a triple damage buff? PI.
04:44.35DjaneOr, do you spend 90% of the fight casting mind spike and mind blast?
04:44.47DjaneWhy would you ever not take serendipity?
04:45.07DjaneThey would only be choices if they were all always viable. Since they're not and won't be, they're not choices.
04:45.09Stormscapeand in terms of the final tier
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04:45.13StormscapeVampiric Dominance
04:45.15Stormscapeonly choice
04:45.15Stormscapelol
04:45.33DjaneStormscape, void shift+ dispersion will be useful i'm sure.
04:45.45Stormscapeoh, good point
04:45.48Stormscapebut I meant for most fights
04:45.49Djaneor on a fight with massive tank damage.
04:45.51Stormscapenot lolgimmick
04:45.55DjaneSure
04:46.01DjaneI can see Void shift being useful is all, but again
04:46.10DjaneIt would have to be "and you should take this for when that happens"
04:46.38Stormscapeoh god Djane look at warlock level 90 talents
04:46.38dogelvow of unity sounds like it could kill the healer
04:46.43Stormscapesplash damage or total garbage
04:47.21Djanekil'jaedens could be amazing if you had a massive haste boost and you were heigan dancing
04:47.57Stormscapeyeah
04:47.59Djaneor like, consider baleroc
04:48.08Djaneif you were soloing a crystal at the start
04:48.08Stormscapebut Archimonde's is like
04:48.09Stormscapelol
04:48.10Djanearchimondes
04:48.14DjaneBut again, pure gimmick.
04:48.36Djanethe only talents that ARE actually interchangable are the pvp ones
04:48.51StormscapeLevel 60 warlock talents: Blood Rush
04:48.52dogelwarlock shouldnt really be taking damage anyway unless its a raid wide dot or something
04:48.53Stormscapealways blood rush
04:48.54Stormscapeimo
04:48.58Stormscapeerm
04:49.00Stormscapeburning rush
04:49.08DjaneStormscape, yes
04:49.27Stormscapelevel 75 depends on spec
04:49.36Stormscapelevel 30 doesn't matter cause cc
04:49.41Djanerofl
04:49.46Djanelook at hunter 75 ones
04:49.55Djane50 focus for you and pet, refunded focus on shot
04:49.56Djaneor readiness.
04:50.00DjaneHMMM I WONDER.
04:50.03Stormscapehmmmmmmmmmmmmm
04:50.10Corganpoints at Druids
04:50.12CorganDO THEM DO THEM
04:50.28StormscapeLOL
04:50.31StormscapeUrsol's Vortex
04:50.34Stormscapeonly choice if not feral
04:51.04Corganlol what
04:51.06Corganhow is that the only choice
04:51.18Djanebecause the other two activate bear form
04:51.24StormscapeBear Hug = you should be doing something else
04:51.25Stormscapelike
04:51.27Stormscapeyou know
04:51.28StormscapeDPSing
04:51.29Djanedpsing
04:51.29Stormscapenot CCing
04:51.31Djaneor healing
04:51.43StormscapeDemo Roar = lolno
04:51.46Corganrolleyes
04:51.51Stormscape4 second CC
04:51.53Stormscapefuckin worthless
04:52.04dogelthats why we have mages
04:52.13Djanewith double polymorph
04:52.17dogel:D
04:52.33Stormscapeoh god Djane
04:52.35Stormscapelevel 60 rogue
04:52.41StormscapeShadowstep CD
04:52.43Stormscapelook at it
04:52.44Corganok well I'll be over here
04:52.49Corgangiving people hugs
04:52.55Corganalso, that was only 1 tier
04:53.06DjaneCorgan, tier 1 is gimmick or meaningless
04:53.21Djanetier 2 is entirely spec dependant
04:53.25Corganwhat
04:53.29Corganhow is that spec dependant
04:53.37dogelStormscape: shadowstep is obvious choice
04:53.44Stormscapedogel no kidding eh
04:53.45Stormscape:D
04:53.57dogelmost of these talents are either
04:53.58dogelobvious choices
04:53.59dogelor
04:54.04StormscapeDjane I like how all of the level 15 druid talents
04:54.04dogeltake this if you're this/doing this
04:54.06Stormscapeactgivate cat form
04:54.07DjaneCorgan, are you healing? If yes, choose anything. If no? It doesn't matter.
04:54.16Corganblinks
04:54.22Corganso wait
04:54.26Corganbasically what you're saying is
04:54.28Corganpick anything?
04:54.31DjaneIf you're healing
04:54.35Djanebut if you're not healing? You're fucked.
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04:54.44Corganand if you're not healing…then pick anything?
04:54.46DjaneOr rather, it doesn't matter
04:54.51dogelStormscape: lv90 talents
04:54.54DjaneWell, actually, no
04:54.56dogelfor shaman
04:55.01DjaneIf you're not healing you should only ever take renewal
04:55.07Stormscapedogel LOL
04:55.09DjaneBecause personal survival cooldown > everythign else.
04:55.11Stormscapeholy fuck
04:55.12Stormscapeso easy
04:55.14dogeli know eh
04:55.16dogelOH
04:55.18dogelI THINK I NEED A TALENT
04:55.21dogelTO /MOVE/ MY TOTEMS
04:55.21StormscapeDjane look at level 90 shaman
04:55.25dogelso dumb
04:55.42Djane...
04:55.50dogeldude dude totemic projection is OP
04:55.53dogelso fucking OP
04:55.58StormscapeTOTEMIC PROJECTION OBV
04:56.03Djaneare you missing lots of buffs? Harmony
04:56.12DjaneDo your totems get destroyed a lot? Restoration.
04:56.29Corganthis just in, any of those are viable
04:56.29DjaneDo any of these make any blind bit of difference in any normal raid? No, you won't use any of them.
04:56.35DjaneYes, but meaningless.
04:56.40Corganthat's the point?
04:56.49Djaneif none of the talents are useful, where's the choice?
04:56.49dogelif meaningless is the point
04:56.51Corganthe majority of talents aren't OH MAN LOOK AT HOW MUCH DPS THIS IS GOING TO BE
04:56.52dogelwhy have talents
04:57.07dogelisnt that the entire point of having talents
04:57.08DjaneCan move totems, can respawn totems, can cast multupke same elements totems.
04:57.15Djanenone of that should ever happen in a raid ever
04:57.16Corganbecause they have uses
04:57.23DjaneBut those -don't-
04:57.25Stormscapedogel, look at level 90 warrior
04:57.28DjaneIf you need to move your totems? stop being bad.
04:57.29Stormscapefrom point of view of fury warrior
04:57.35Corganexcept they do
04:57.39DjaneIf you need multiple same elements totem, tell you rraider to stop being bad.
04:57.40Corganhey look
04:57.41dogeltotem moving: unless you're moving around ALL fight, where's the point
04:57.42Corgana gauntlet
04:57.44Corganlets move the totems with me
04:57.45DjaneCorgan, welcome to mana.
04:57.56DjaneAnd respawn totems? in pve? Lulz
04:58.04Stormscapewtf will kill a totem
04:58.05Stormscapein pve
04:58.12dogelStormscape: i so wanna see avatar in action
04:58.16DjaneNone of those have any impact in pve at all for any half decent raid group
04:58.16dogelitll be like warcraft :D
04:58.19Djaneor any half decent shaman
04:58.20Stormscapefuck yeah
04:58.24Stormscapejust rename Warrior to
04:58.26StormscapeMountain King
04:58.27dogelwait wait
04:58.27Stormscapeimo
04:58.28CorganDjane, every raid group will be perfect
04:58.28DjaneSo yeah, you could pick anything
04:58.30Corganclearly.
04:58.31dogelTITANS GRIP AVATAR WARRIORS
04:58.33CorganI MEAN GOSH
04:58.37Stormscapedogel YUP
04:58.39DjaneCorgan, nowadays? Raid buff wise? yeah, pretty much
04:58.41CorganTHEY DIDNT JUST INTRODUCE PUG RAIDS
04:58.43DjaneAnd again
04:58.43dogelwith the biggest wepaons evar
04:58.46CorganOR ANYTHING
04:58.47Djane25man pug raids
04:58.47dogelweapons
04:58.51Stormscape+20% DPS for 10 seconds every 60 seconds
04:58.51Corgangiggles
04:58.56Stormscapeor
04:58.56Stormscapeshit
04:59.01Djanebecause you won't have all the buffs in a 25man Corgan, nawp.
04:59.05DjaneThat wouldn't happen, Oh wait.
04:59.07Stormscapenope
04:59.08Stormscapenever
04:59.15DjaneThey homogonosied the buffs so ahlf the classes carry everything
04:59.19Djanethen gave hunters pets
04:59.21dogelisnt bladestorm sorta like whirlwind
04:59.25Djanethat actually did something
04:59.36Stormscapedogel yeah but compared to avatar
04:59.36Arkaenbladestorm is channeled whirlwind
04:59.37Stormscapeit's shit
04:59.38Arkaenthat casts multiple times
04:59.40dogelyeah i know
04:59.47dogelbut just pointing out the similarity
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04:59.48DjaneStormscape, yes, but can you charge whilst bladestorming?
05:00.00Djanebecause...
05:00.01ArkaenI want w3 bladestorm
05:00.04DjaneBONEEEESTOOOORMMMMM.
05:00.05Arkaenimmunity to ALL THE THINGS
05:00.13Stormscapeimo give warriors Bonestorm
05:00.14ArkaenDjane, BOUND BY BONE
05:00.16Stormscapeand bone spikes
05:00.17dogelw3 bladestorm avatar
05:00.25ArkaenMake warriors
05:00.27dogelgiant blademaster spinning around everywhere
05:00.28Corgananyways
05:00.28Corganafk
05:00.39Stormscapegive warriors the mirror image ability
05:00.41Stormscapethat blademasters had
05:00.50dogelomg
05:00.50dogelyes
05:00.51ArkaenAvatar Bladestorm Mirror Image and...
05:00.57dogelcritical hit
05:00.59dogelwas the last one
05:00.59Arkaenyes
05:01.00dogelusually
05:01.08ArkaenLet's go with this
05:01.20dogel+15% chance to crit or something
05:01.21Arkaenbecause windwalk is sissy rogue skill and warriors need no sissy rogue skill
05:01.43ArkaenFORTHEBURNINGBLADE
05:01.49Arkaeni freaking loved the W3 blademaster accent
05:02.45dogelhaha yes
05:03.04dogelwindwalk = fucking kill steal
05:03.08dogelNOT AMUSED
05:03.23dogelor, DAMNIT THAT ASSHOLE DISAPPEARED AT 3% HEALTH
05:03.43Arkaenyes
05:05.45dogeldinners
05:05.56Stormscapetickles dogel
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05:57.31SeanMallonHay guys.
05:59.12dogelaloha
05:59.26SeanMallonHay dogel. Nice to meet you.
05:59.31SeanMallon:D
06:02.16dogelnice to meet you too :D
06:02.18dogelwhat's up?
06:03.09SeanMallonNot much. I just retired a lvl 40 Druid just now.
06:03.38SeanMallonStarting fresh with a Death Knight. I'm a first time DK user.
06:06.07dogeldon't retire the druid! D:
06:06.10dogelthey're so fun
06:06.53blademeldsets everyone on fire
06:06.59blademeldsets dogel on ice
06:08.32SeanMallonI retire at lvl 40 because I want to retire one each of every class at that lvl.
06:08.54dogelbut.. why o_o
06:09.52SeanMallonIt's a bet with my friend. The one who first retires all of the classes will win a 54 inch, internet ready HD televisiton.
06:10.03SeanMallon:D
06:10.11Djane...but you could do it in a day
06:10.21Djane1-40 takes about 5 hours at most nowadays
06:10.26dogelholy jeebus
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06:10.36SeanMallonNot when your using classic rules.
06:10.37dogelDjane: people have lives. :P
06:10.58Djaneand what exactly are classic rules?
06:11.11Djanedogel, a days work for a 54 inch tv? That's worth a few days off work.
06:11.47SeanMallonlvl 1-40 using the WoW rules set out when the game fist started. :)
06:12.01Djanewhat.
06:12.18SeanMallonNo patches or add on's allowed.
06:12.26dogelidk man i'd get bored playing wow for more than over 8 hours
06:12.32DjaneSo you're on a private server?
06:12.34dogel-over
06:12.45SeanMallonYup.
06:12.55DjaneOh dear.
06:13.20SeanMallonWhat's wrong?
06:14.46blademeldprivate server is against WoW ToS, and Wowhead doesn't like to affiliate with such behaviour
06:15.21dogeljust dont say what server/how to get there and i'm sure it'll be fine
06:15.23SeanMallonReally.
06:15.37SeanMallonI don't.
06:16.02SeanMallonIt's a server that within a college setting.
06:16.09dogelgranted if you're on a pserv can't you just idk make your characters at 40
06:16.44SeanMallonWe could, but that will defeet the purpose of the challenge.
06:16.53dogelhe wouldnt know
06:16.57dogelmake all your characters
06:17.04dogelsay you finished in 3-5 days
06:17.11dogelfree tv
06:17.21blademeldprivate servers are against WoW ToS and Wowhead doesn't like to affiliate with such behaviour
06:17.36SeanMallonBesides I got a lvl 50 mage in the public domain.
06:17.56dogelblademeld: if that's directed at me, pfft.
06:18.03dogeli dont even /play/ the game
06:18.17blademelddogel: no, just explaining Djane's response
06:18.25SeanMallonI know, but I don't use my pvtserv on WOWHEAD. I would never intentionally break the ToS.
06:19.07blademeldby affiliate, I mean discussion of such activity is frowned upone even on the IRC
06:19.28SeanMallonOh. Sorry. Forgot about that. Sorry guys.
06:19.54blademeldwhen you make private server discussions on the forums, you usually get a delete of the said thread with a warning and possibly a ban/suspension of the account
06:20.21blademeldIRC is a bit more dependant on how the mods are feeling
06:20.27ArkaenAs if we have any mods
06:20.29Arkaen:B
06:20.39blademeldwe have officers
06:20.41SeanMallonI don't discuss things of this nature on a regular basis. Sorry guys.
06:20.41dogelas if the irc mods care unless you're being a huge douche
06:20.42blademeldthat's close
06:20.43dogelLOL
06:20.56Arkaenback in my day,
06:20.59Arkaenwhen Corgan was a mod
06:21.08ArkaenALL OF THE DOUCHEBAGS GOT A BAN
06:21.10Arkaenand i was happy
06:21.11dogelwait wait wait
06:21.17blademeldhands dogel a douching-tool
06:21.18dogelthat brings me to something ive been wondering
06:21.22dogelwhy the hell isnt he an op anymore
06:21.25dogelalso lolz blademeld
06:21.33Djanebecause of sinespe.
06:21.34SeanMallonI wouln't talk about pvt servers on any public WoW board in any compacity.
06:21.37DjaneI mean penis.
06:21.46blademeldsomething Arkaen doesn't have
06:21.49ArkaenDjane, sorry if you're friends with penises
06:21.51ArkaenI don't like him though
06:21.57DjaneArkaen, haven't been for a very long time.
06:22.02ArkaenGood!
06:22.06SeanMallonI won't discuss it any further.
06:22.07dogelDjane: eh?
06:22.13DjaneYeah, he douched all over my guild
06:22.24SeanMallonslaps dogel with a trout.
06:22.25ArkaenPenises douches all over everything
06:22.27dogelso he cleaned it?
06:22.28ArkaenHe was cool before he was cool
06:22.29dogelslaps SeanMallon around a bit with a large trout
06:22.36Arkaenetc.
06:22.41SeanMallonlol
06:22.47dogeltell me the story, oh great Djane
06:22.48ArkaenGuys, important question
06:22.59SeanMallonI give the trout slapping crown dogel
06:23.00Arkaenit's 1:22 PM.  Play more Dota 2 or sleep so i can wake up @ 6
06:23.12dogel6..pm?
06:23.24ArkaenAM
06:23.27ArkaenAM AM AM
06:23.28dogelrofl
06:23.31ArkaenI am not australian
06:23.32dogelif its 1pm
06:23.35Arkaenand i have no affiliation with australia
06:23.35dogeloh wait
06:23.36dogelLOLZ
06:23.39dogelsleep imo
06:23.46dogelunless you're like me
06:23.51dogeland you run horrid on like 5 hours of sleep
06:23.54dogelbut great at 3
06:23.57Arkaenwell
06:24.03Arkaensort of?
06:24.06dogelmy burps taste like salad
06:24.13Arkaenmy burps taste like glass
06:24.42Arkaen35-24 in Dotes 2 so far ^_^
06:25.44ArkaenDjane, the best part of DotA 2
06:25.52blademeldhate
06:25.52Arkaenis getting queued with ROSSHHIANS
06:25.53blademeldyou
06:25.55blademeldpeople
06:25.56Arkaenwho don't speak ENGGRISH
06:26.00blademeldarrrrghhghghg
06:26.01Arkaenblademeld, what people
06:26.04blademeldyou
06:26.06Arkaenwhy
06:26.06blademeldall of you
06:26.11blademeldyou exist
06:26.14Arkaenis it because i saw u on reddit
06:26.17Arkaenbr0br0br0
06:26.18blademeld...
06:26.23Arkaen:D
06:26.24SeanMallon|Busylol
06:26.26blademeldI don't have a reddit account
06:26.33blademeldreddit is too much reading for me
06:26.33Arkaenik but someone has one under your name
06:26.40blademeldnot enough boobs
06:26.46Arkaenhave you been to uhh
06:26.50dogeli have one but i almost never post/comment
06:26.50dogel:D
06:26.52Arkaenthat one reddit that will not be named
06:26.56dogelspacedicks?
06:27.02Arkaenno, that's spacedicks
06:27.03Arkaennot boobs
06:27.14Arkaenfuck yes juggernaut
06:27.17Arkaentime to figure out how to play him
06:28.39SeanMallon|BusyHere is my Ability Tree for my lvl 50 Mage: http://www.wowhead.com/talent#oZRrr0kdRoo:zoZsR
06:29.54blademeldwhat
06:30.20SeanMallon|Busywhat do you mean by "what?" blademeld?
06:30.32blademeldPvE?
06:30.35blademeldSolo?
06:30.43dogeloh god here it comes
06:30.51SeanMallonPvE? :P
06:31.25blademeldugh
06:31.34blademeldslaps Djane on the back of the skull
06:31.47blademeld*with a dogeldildo
06:31.59SeanMallonOMG. I had a drunk guy on the NYU Poly rant about this.
06:32.09SeanMallonIRC that is.
06:32.43SeanMallonHe was banned for sounding sane. :P
06:32.53Djaneblademeld, wait what?
06:33.03SeanMallonlol
06:33.10blademeldDjane: click on his spec
06:33.19blademeldand then slap yourself with another dildo
06:33.36DjaneThat is one special retarded spec.
06:33.46SeanMallon:-o
06:34.30Djanedogel, another itme perhaps? I've got to shower, dress, check bus times and book a train ticket in the next 20 min
06:34.39DjaneArkaen, GIVE ME DOTA 2 NAO
06:34.57dogelDjane: alright, no biggie
06:35.00dogelwhy the train
06:35.07Djanegoing to london tomorrow to meet Zicon
06:35.11blademeldhe likes to molest girls in the train
06:35.16dogelooo fun
06:35.28dogelany particular reason
06:35.34dogelor just meeting up cause why the fuck not
06:35.36Djanekeep her company, mostly
06:35.43dogeleh?
06:36.13Djaneshe's in england for a few days with her spouse, but spouse is working
06:36.41dogeloh cool
06:36.42SeanMallonCan someone help me with something WoW related for a second?
06:36.48dogelwait where are you
06:36.51DjaneReading
06:36.55DjaneAbout 30 min west of london
06:37.27dogel..i dont remember you being from england
06:37.40DjaneYep.
06:37.46DjaneBut i'm a mental
06:37.49DjaneAnd am often up all nigth
06:38.55dogelhuh.
06:38.57dogelmakes mental note
06:39.09Djanewhere did you think i'm from?
06:39.48SeanMallonI was originally from Blackpool but now live in NYC USA. :D
06:40.23dogeli dont know, just not england XD
06:41.07dogelprobably, like you said, because you're up when its way early over there
06:41.13Djaneyes.
06:44.57DjaneOut
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06:48.49SeanMallonWell, I'm heading to bed. Night all.
06:52.04blademeldI thought Djane was from Britan
06:57.41Arkaeni thought Djane was from the UK
06:58.04dogeli think he just
06:58.04dogelexists
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07:05.47blademeldis dogel from Americana?
07:06.24dogelim not a landwhale
07:06.24dogelso no
07:06.25dogel:D
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07:31.47Mr_Rabiesmannnn
07:32.25Mr_Rabieswith the inevitability of a melee weapon dropping for my druid, i'm not sure how to tell my raid that i need it over our hunter without sounding like a loot whore
07:33.00hyljemy paws need an upgrade, meow
07:33.15hyljethen they're all "kitty :3"
07:33.26Mr_Rabiesi really need one right meow
07:33.51Mr_Rabiesmy gear is totally dependent on my melee weapon meow after recent changes
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07:51.45JammerMr_Rabies: surely kitties get priority over hunters? :)
07:52.50Mr_Rabiesthey _should_ but no one in my raid really knows how ferals work
07:53.13Mr_Rabiesthey're always asking me what spells do lol
08:09.05blademeldMr_Rabies: you should just write them an add-on that plays the game for them
08:11.16Owkkuri[09:06:24] <dogel> im not a landwhale || rofl :P
08:13.47ArkaenDONT LAUGH
08:14.02ArkaenI HAD A FRIEND WHO WAS A LANDWHALE.  HE WAS SHOT AND HIS BLUBBER WAS STOLEN.
08:14.05ArkaenBY CANADIANS.
08:14.11ArkaenNever Forget
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11:51.46StormscapeSaw a girl I went to high school with at work... she still sounds like a chipmunk, 6 years later.
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12:14.46consealYay, my ring is charged now!
12:14.53consealnow I just have to get home from work.
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13:59.49Stormscape<+FriskySchoolSlut> I know someone who literally played Generals and ZH to death
13:59.49Stormscape<+FriskySchoolSlut> they were quite high in the rankings
13:59.49Stormscape<+Loki> they died playing Generals and ZH? intense
13:59.49Stormscape<+FriskySchoolSlut> yeah
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14:14.54Corganliterally
14:18.45StormscapeYup, literally died from Generals and ZH
14:18.50Stormscapeintense as fuck
14:30.55Joltwait what
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15:03.48neutronimityI hate the source engine
15:05.15kullervowhy do people dislike it? I thought it was decent
15:26.42Laihendihi rose :)
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15:27.59neutronimityhi.
15:28.18twsHai. Anyone here know how to make Grid have the same background color for all players, no matter which class they are? :(
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15:51.33Azumihi
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15:54.45kullervotws, inverse colors should result in a solid background
15:55.55twskullervo: Aye. When everybody is at full health anyway. :P
15:56.20twsSolution was to turn of class color in the health STATUS. Would have never occured to me to look there.
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16:33.13JunkHeadhahaha wow this quest is so broken.
16:36.26JunkHeadsigh
16:36.36kullervoyou say that and then don't continue?
16:37.06JunkHeadi think i can do this... but damn
16:37.09JunkHeadso annoying.
16:37.16JunkHeadit's the quest in uldum
16:37.21JunkHeadwhere you're freeing the slave guy
16:37.31JunkHeadand you gotta kite the mob around over the cro eggs
16:37.33JunkHeadcroc*
16:37.53JunkHeadthere are invisible crocs though.
16:37.56JunkHeadThey kill me instantly.
16:38.03kullervolol
16:38.15JunkHeadyeah
16:38.21kullervonever had such issues myself
16:38.21JunkHeadi can be nowhere near an egg
16:38.28JunkHeadand wait 2 seconds
16:38.30JunkHeadthen boom dead
16:38.34JunkHead100% to 0%
16:38.36JunkHeadinstantly
16:38.44JunkHeadive neve rhad it either until now.
16:39.00JunkHeadbut wowhead comments date back to early 4.0.3 saying it was there.
16:39.05JunkHeadbut I never knew about it until right now.
16:39.18JunkHeadso peopel recommend kiting him towards the water.
16:39.30JunkHeadthign is... he resets at a certain spot.:\
16:39.54kullervokite in circles
16:40.30kullervothis reminds me, i'll have to kite some ramkahen guards to org
16:42.26JunkHeadtrying to kite in circles.
16:42.30JunkHeadbut other mobs keep respawning
16:42.48JunkHeadthe boss mob has 640k hp. takes forever to burn through.:\
16:44.27kullervoso... i take it that you've never soloed a whale shark
16:44.42JunkHeadNo. Never tried.
16:45.00JunkHeadI'll go gain a level and come abck.
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16:52.11JunkHeadGot my AVGN Volume 5 dvd today.:D
16:55.00kullervoadvanced virtual gaming for newbs?
16:56.51JunkHeadangry video game nerd
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17:22.15g0urrahttp://i40.tinypic.com/90spqe.jpg
17:23.13fewynmy collector's edition i can't get until the 20th
17:23.15fewyni'm jelly
17:25.35JunkHeadI played in the last beta stress test weekend.
17:25.37JunkHeadbarely.
17:25.53JunkHeadbut from what I saw of the game... It didn't seem that great.
17:26.05JunkHeadIt wasn't bad.
17:26.16JunkHeadBut it was just... really, really average feeling.
17:28.12fewyni won't argue about it in here but i think it's really great game
17:28.42g0urra^
17:28.51fewyngameplay feels pretty solid, but it's got a lot of potential i think
17:28.55fewynespecially because of the IP
17:29.11DjaneThe only reason I would play it is for the IP
17:29.17DjaneBut the level of investment I have in WoW. :|
17:29.21JunkHeadWell, I do admit, I didn't get to play much.
17:29.25JunkHeadVery little in fact.
17:29.32JunkHeadThe damn updater was bugging out on me.
17:29.38JunkHeadand I worked that weekend.
17:29.43g0urra<Djane> But the level of investment I have in WoW. :| < I've played for 6.5 years. but I'd still play SWTOR.
17:29.46fewyni've also spent 7 years in wow too Djane =p
17:29.47JunkHeadSo I'd start the download, go to work for 12 hours.
17:29.59DjaneYes.
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17:30.02JunkHeadcome home to find it was broken. try again and go to bed.
17:30.07JunkHeadwake up to see it was broken.
17:30.11JunkHeaddelete a file.
17:30.17JunkHeadstart update, go to work for 12 hours.
17:30.22DjaneI'm not talking gametime
17:30.24JunkHeadand it finally worked.
17:30.25DjaneI'm talking relational.
17:30.32DjaneI'm talking my guild, my raid.
17:30.37JunkHeadso I waste half the weekend trying to update the game just to play it.:(
17:30.44g0urramy guild is talking about moving to SWTOR lol.
17:32.46JunkHeadBut I will say I created a jedi something, and a bounty hunter.
17:32.52JunkHeadthe bounty hunter seemed a lot more fun.
17:32.58Azelphurthis whole SWTOR business seems to happen every time a new MMO comes out, I'm not particularly phased
17:33.18Azelphurwhen GW came out, GW was the amazing WoW killer and everyone was going to switch to it, and WoW was going to die.
17:33.23JunkHeadIf I get it, I'll get normal edition.
17:34.13Mr_Rabiesthat's the thing that they keep forgetting
17:34.24Mr_Rabiesin order to beat wow, it's actually gotta be better than wow, not the same thing
17:34.46Azelphur^ that also nobody wants to reroll
17:35.17Azelphurso basically unless SWTOR is the greatest thing since sliced bread, everyone will play it for a couple weeks, and then come back to warcrack xD
17:37.15Mr_Rabiespretty much
17:37.21Mr_RabiesWoW was freakin' revolutionary
17:37.37Mr_Rabiesthat's what pulled people in that wouldn't play MMOs previously, and pulled people away from EQ
17:37.54Mr_Rabiesthe next MMO needs to be that big of a jump
17:38.42Azelphurand as sad as it is to admit it, I bet the next MMO to make that big of a jump will be titan, haha
17:41.00JunkHeadpoor fedex guy...
17:41.08JunkHeadjust had to deliver a basketball goal.
17:43.29Mr_Rabiesread basketball goat
17:43.31Mr_Rabieswas pretty confused
17:47.55neutronimityI pressed F5 five times. Firefox crashed.
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18:04.01g0urraopens the wowhead profiler and sees plugin-container.exe increase by 100 MB
18:04.01g0urra:|
18:04.11g0urraoo, it crashed
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18:22.09neutronimitySyntaxError: missing ; before statement
18:22.12neutronimity..
18:24.56neutronimityculprit seems to be
18:24.56neutronimityvar blutext += $(this).html();
18:25.03neutronimitywhat the fuck is wrong with it
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19:51.47Joltlol
19:51.49Joltwow is never gonna die
19:52.07CodyByeWho suggested that?
19:52.20CodyByeThey'll go F2P before they ever die, which will give the game another 5+ years
19:52.28Jolt[6:33pm] <Azelphur> when GW came out, GW was the amazing WoW killer and everyone was going to switch to it, and WoW was going to die. <-
19:52.33Joltthat sounded funny :D
19:52.39Joltbut it will never die
19:53.29CodyByeIf a game has good production values and plays reasonably well, they'll do fine.
19:53.58CodyByeBut any recently released games have not lived up to that standard. RIFT was by far the closest, but they just had "average" content.
19:54.23fewynGW is a different type of game
19:54.32fewyni don't think GW2 will kill anything
20:01.01AzelphurJolt: it's true though, I remember back then lol
20:01.09AzelphurI'm talking about GW1
20:01.20JoltAzelphur: haha yeh i even bought the ce of gw1
20:01.23JoltI have it some where
20:02.17Azelphur:)
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20:37.52Laihendiit's crazy how in the past week, every one of my teachers has made a move on me
20:38.29Laihendias if i would hook up with someone over 30
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20:42.39g0urra... what
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20:48.18Laihendievery one of them. one of them even got me while i was alone and i was like woahhhh ok i'm leaving now. the trick is to keep them going until you get an A on the exam and then leave ;)
20:50.03g0urraplayer
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21:19.38PwntiffSo who broke Wowhead?
21:19.54fewyna certain someone
21:20.01PwntiffWas it you? >.>
21:20.06fewynnope
21:20.08fewyni'm content
21:20.28PwntiffWell, I can't blame Mal anymore
21:21.04fewynthe person i typically blame has a name that starts with a K and ends with an oper
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22:14.30Laihendiso who are u guys voting 4 president
22:14.32Laihendi?
22:16.14StormscapeA. over 90% of the channel doesn't live in Murka
22:16.21StormscapeB. the 10% that do probably don't care
22:16.40PwntiffThird Party >.>
22:18.07Mr_Rabiesi'll tell you in 2012
22:19.01Mr_Rabieseither obama or third party though, though it doesn't really matter since my state is gonna be for whoever the regressive candidate is
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22:23.14Pwntiffbible belt Mr_Rabies?
22:24.16Mr_Rabiesyeah, georgia
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22:26.02Pwntiffmetro atlanta tends blue, but the majority of the state tends red
22:26.09Pwntiffjust goes to show urban/rural demographics
22:26.09Mr_Rabiesyeah
22:26.57Mr_Rabiesyou should hear how horribly openly racist a lot of people out here have been in the years since obama has come into office, it's really sad :(
22:30.53tatewat
22:31.01tateso much states and statements
22:31.02tateeverywhere
22:32.17Laihendiwhere is murka
22:50.46winkpfff, You need a higher average item level (Requires: 372. Currently 371)
22:51.08kullervohahaa.
22:51.29kullervorun some 5-mans and cut the qq
22:51.40winkyeah, only did 3
22:52.31winkstill a bit mathematically surprised
22:52.54wink11x 378, 4x 359, 1x 353, 1x 346
22:53.59wink12, 3 - with that unused dps ring
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23:00.04Mr_Rabiesreplace that 346, should be cake :D
23:02.21winkyeah, tomorrow
23:02.59winkso this was: resto shammy 353->371, prot warr 353->362 (with DPS 372) and hunter 355->366 in one week
23:03.03winknerf new 5mans
23:03.39winkoh, and the 2 397 daggers on my main. I think I played a bit much this week...
23:06.36Mr_Rabiesfreakin' rogues are all topping the charts now, it's insane
23:06.59Mr_Rabiesno matter their gear, just those daggers are like
23:07.02Mr_Rabiesinsane
23:09.54kullervothose daggers... are their gear
23:09.59hyljezing
23:10.00kullervodont be silly
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23:23.08winkhehe
23:23.26winkI've not noticed much yet tbh
23:37.32neutronimityI HAZ TEH PICCOLO OF FLAMING FIRE
23:37.50PwntiffGo troll the AH
23:40.15kullervodoit
23:40.28kullervoi shouls get one s well
23:42.54Azelphurneutronimity: I've had it for ages, trolled ah so many times :D
23:43.03Azelphurneutronimity: piccolo + train set...DO THE TRAIN DANCE.
23:43.15neutronimityneed to get to dalaran first =D
23:43.26Azelphur:P
23:43.40kullervowhy dal?
23:44.38Laihendihi rose (:
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23:50.10neutronimityoh because the toy set is in dalaran only?
23:50.15neutronimityoh never mind
23:50.25neutronimitythere are vendors in sw and orgrimmar, too, I suppose
23:50.50kullervoyeah
23:51.08kullervosome horde rogue was ganking the sw toy vendor
23:51.23kullervoreal creepy seeing so many corpses of the same npc
23:52.05Pwntiffhttp://blackacrebrewing.com/home/ Click "I am under 21."  Quite funny

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