IRC log for #wowhead on 20111023

00:06.44*** join/#wowhead dogel (~dogel@S01060014d137deed.vc.shawcable.net)
00:12.07blademeldwhat is this "book"
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00:41.37blademeldAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
00:41.42blademeldI have this week off
00:41.45blademeld\o.
00:41.48blademeld\o/
00:41.51Arkaengood job blade
00:42.04blademeldArkaen: Arkaen =!
00:42.09blademeldkekekeke
00:42.46Arkaenlol
00:43.44blademeldhttp://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/393453_700b.jpg
00:45.07blademeldhttp://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/393506_460s_v1.jpg NSFW Because of Racist jokes
00:47.26kullervoDjones_: if I'm reading these charts right, 20str/30stam > 40str considering a 100% vengeance scenario (which would be nearly any raid boss)
00:48.59Djones_kullervo, yes
00:49.46kullervoand 60 stamina gems would be even better
00:50.39fewynwhat time does the fishing tourney start on sundays?
01:00.28Djones_kullervo, indewed.
01:00.33fewyntime for sum foo fighters
01:00.40Djones_Pearl Jam for me.
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01:02.31kullervohttp://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/defias-brotherhood/vji/advanced
01:02.47kullervohoping to get lucky in BH next week
01:03.41fewynNYAN CAT
01:03.42fewynHELL YEAH
01:09.26fewynhttp://www.wowhead.com/mists-of-pandaria-talent-calculator
01:09.28fewynHTH
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01:12.07fewynetc tyme
01:16.43Noxyrocks the fuck out.
01:16.57fewyndethlok tshirt
01:16.58fewynheh
01:38.43blademeldAHHHHHHHHHHHH
01:38.46blademeldfewyn: <3
01:38.47blademeld<333
01:38.49blademeld<333333
01:38.56fewynthank koper and jerek
01:39.14fewyni had nothing to do with it
01:40.37blademeldfewyn: you are the bearer of good news
01:41.27JunkHead?
01:42.08fewynhttp://www.wowhead.com/mists-of-pandaria-talent-calculator
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01:46.01fewynthey need to make an album
01:46.02fewynETC
01:46.24solocommandfuck yeah warriors
01:48.03Freyja[The Wowhead Blog] BlizzCon 2011: Mists of Pandaria Talent Calculator, Today's Panels, and More - http://www.wowheadnews.com/blog=196428/blizzcon-2011-mists-of-pandaria-talent-calculator-todays-panels-and-more
01:49.11Djones_Hmmm
01:49.16Djones_I think blizz failed a little on the talent thing
01:49.24Djones_they HAVE managed to make each choice equally interesting.
01:49.29Djones_At least, superficially.
01:49.43Djones_They have however, neglected to make sure each tier was interesting generally.
01:49.51Djones_(but of course this is very early on)
01:50.10NoxyI think they have made an EXCELLENT starting point.
01:50.14Djones_Certainly.
01:50.26NoxyI'm sure it will change, but even if this was implemented right now, I would be very happy.
01:50.27Djones_I like the concept and think it's a brilliant model
01:50.49Djones_The problem I'm seeing with it in its' current incarnation is for people like me, who -only- pve or -only- pvp on a character.
01:50.54Djones_And don't do both on any given character.
01:51.03JunkHeadThe new talent system seems kinda silly to me.
01:51.07Djones_Taking priests for example. I couldn't give a shit about the first tier, -any- of the options.
01:51.14JunkHeadI'm not against it... just don't see the point.
01:51.15Djones_Wheras the second tier is AHAHA AWESOME
01:51.34JunkHeadMakes mroe sense to me to keep the old system and just remove/shuffle/add talents
01:51.37Djones_"increases movement speed by 25% whilst levitated"? Always UP.
01:51.48Djones_any pve fight without aoe damage. ALWAYS LEVITATE ALL THE TIME.
01:52.43blademeldDjones_: I think it's much better than anything on the current MMO scene
01:52.50Djones_blademeld, I like it, definitely.
01:53.00Djones_I just hope they make it so every tier will feel meaningful for everyone.
01:53.02blademeldalso, I think you're a rapist
01:53.06blademeldbut that's beside the point
01:53.09Djones_But, I can live with 1 tier being shit and pointless if the rest are awesome.
01:53.29JunkHeadI looked at the warrior talents.
01:53.35JunkHeadMainly from a prot perspective.
01:53.37Djones_Although anyone who TRULY believes there won't be a -particular- way you Spec
01:53.48Djones_JunkHead, paladin prot is like wtf why would i bother with any of this shit? so far.
01:54.01Djones_There WILL be optimal specs, a lot of them.
01:54.08Djones_It will just differ for the fights specifically, is all.
01:54.21Djones_So, really, it's just a shift in the illusion of choice.
01:54.30Djones_Certainly, in raiding anyways
01:55.06blademeldOh gos
01:55.07blademeldgod
01:55.07Djones_(taking tier 5 of spriests for instance. 3 options, execute phase/spell haste buff/burst damage buff)
01:55.12blademeldwarrior tank with Avatar talent
01:55.28Djones_option 1 for bosses with massive health pulls, option 2 for when it's optimal dps wise, option 3 for when adds need to be bursted down.
01:55.49Djones_no blademeld
01:55.53Djones_warrior tank with bladestorm.
01:56.27blademeldDjones_: level 45 paladin tree
01:56.35blademeldcan't decide what for paladin tank
01:56.41JunkHeadHow would bladestorm affect your ability to dodge/parry/block/get missed?
01:56.43Djones_Always ardent defender
01:56.46Djones_JunkHead, good question
01:56.52Djones_18k shield is like, lolwut.
01:56.58Djones_Gone in .5 of a second.
01:57.02JunkHeadI'd think Bladestorm would be kinda badwhile tanking.
01:57.09JunkHeadBut that's just my thinking.
01:57.14Djones_Ardent defender when you die is more than 20k health
01:57.17Djones_plus you take 20% less damage.
01:57.25Djones_Therefore, sacred shield is vastly inferior
01:57.25blademeldDjones_: Blessed Life is good for threat sensitive fights, whihc I presume they'll be removing in Mists of Pandaria
01:57.31Djones_AHAHAHA
01:57.32Djones_AHAHA
01:57.36Djones_Threat sensitive fights.
01:57.39Djones_Hang on a minute.
01:57.42Djones_I need to get a dictionary.
01:57.51Djones_AS I'M SORRY BUT THAT GROUP OF WORDS TOGETHER HAS NO MEANING.
01:58.16blademeldlol
01:58.17JunkHeadhttp://www.wowhead.com/mists-of-pandaria-talent-calculator#wTT
01:58.23JunkHeadI'm seeing that for prot warriors.
01:58.33Djones_blademeld, consider this. in 359's, on my paladin, i was doing 30k TPS as STANDARD
01:58.41blademeldJunkHead: bladestorm
01:58.52Djones_in 378's, with the threat buff, I now do something 60k tps easy
01:58.53JunkHeadDepends on hig it affects your ability to tank.
01:58.57JunkHeadhow*
01:58.58blademeldDjones_: I was mostly thinking aggrodrop gimmicks
01:59.09Djones_save up a SotR
01:59.12Djones_Bam 400k threat.
01:59.43Djones_JunkHead, Impending victory looks better than Enraged Regen to me.
01:59.55Djones_Purely because it's controllable.
02:00.17Djones_the ONLY threat sensitive fight there is, is if you do Heroic shannox the stupid way with a tank swap on shannox.
02:00.22JunkHeadDepends on the % victory rush gives.
02:00.36Djones_JunkHead, true enough. I'm assuming the -proper- amount.
02:01.06Djones_Also, i'd take distrupting shout purely because if it's one target
02:01.07Djones_you have pummel
02:01.13Djones_and if it's more than one, gag order doesn't cut the mustard.
02:01.24Djones_cut the mustard? wtf does that even mean.
02:01.29JunkHeadHmm...
02:01.33JunkHeadFunny thign is..
02:01.45JunkHeadA lot of the choices, don't even matter.
02:01.50Djones_Indeed.
02:01.58JunkHeadNoone would even notice what you had/used.
02:02.09Djones_unless you were a bladestorming tank.
02:02.15Djones_Because let's face it, that has to happen.
02:02.21Djones_You know why?
02:02.21JunkHeadI'm sure it will.
02:02.25Djones_BONEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESTOOOOOOOOORMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
02:04.37blademeldhttp://i.imgur.com/lpC9l.jpg
02:04.39blademeldbeautiful
02:05.43Djones_Wtf
02:05.49Djones_Did hell open up?
02:06.24fewynsure
02:07.00RawsNope, just Canada
02:07.32Primarit's a derailed train transporting raw molten ice hockey
02:13.21dogelRaws, it's been so long! :O
02:20.09TikiPriestthe name looks familure
02:23.55fewynalright i'm about to say screw you to the foo fighters
02:24.00fewynand go play sc2 or somethign
02:24.06Noxyyeah this is taking too long.
02:24.10rosemountWhat are they doing
02:24.18NoxyI'm sure they're having set up issues.
02:24.31fewynprobably
02:24.32rosemountOh
02:24.50fewynyeah i think i'm going to go suck at sc2
02:24.56rosemountWe had our graduation party postponed because the music didn't work =9
02:25.28rosemountSo it was just kind of a be-awkward-with-parents time
02:25.39Noxygo suck with glar lololl I'll film it and sell it.
02:26.07fewynglar isn't even on my bnet friends list
02:26.08rosemountnn guys =)
02:26.12NoxyWHY NOT
02:26.16fewyni have no idea
02:26.19fewynhe just isn't
02:26.24fewyni'm patching sc2
02:26.27fewynhaven't played in awhile
02:26.49fewyni think i want to make bbq wings tomorrow
02:30.11NoxyWhy no foo fighters wtf.
02:30.14NoxyD:
02:30.18fewyn?
02:30.25Noxymy live stream
02:30.27fewynstill not started?
02:30.30Noxyno foo fighters
02:30.48Noxyit looks like they're just replaying interviews from earlier in the day
02:30.51Noxymaybe
02:30.54NoxyI cant tell
02:30.57fewynthey are
02:30.57fewynkinda
02:31.01fewynsays they are starting now
02:31.13Noxyeh?
02:31.18fewynon my stream
02:31.24fewynhttp://us.battle.net/blizzcon/en/live-stream/
02:31.26Noxynot on my stream, bald guy still talking.
02:31.33fewynrefresh the page
02:31.39fewynyou're back in time
02:31.40fewyni think
02:31.56Noxyah there we go, glar had us afew mins back
02:32.01Noxygot it on the TV
02:32.03Noxynot PC
02:32.55fewynah
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02:33.34NoxySo, 4.3 in two weeks? Yes please.
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02:51.51blademeldDjones_: http://oi53.tinypic.com/n14co4.jpg
02:52.02blademeldthis is level 29 mind you
02:52.17Djones_blademeld, I was shadow for the entire levelling process.
02:52.38Djones_It IS inferior dps, but I agree somewhat with the principle.
02:52.54Djones_But i wouldn't say it's really -that- hard.
02:53.01Djones_And level 29 has NO resemblance to max level at all.
02:53.05Djones_If anything you learn bad habits.
02:53.10blademeldOh please, she was blaming class mechanics, being DoT heavy
02:53.20blademeldfor her low DPS
02:53.24Djones_Yes.
02:53.32blademeldfull heriloom gear, did 53 DPS on bosss
02:53.38blademeldheirloom
02:53.41Djones_I don't know the levels of dps at that point that I did.
02:53.48Djones_What level is gnomergan?
02:53.53blademeldthat range
02:53.55Djones_I mean, what level would you do it around?
02:54.00Djones_Ok, I was doing 250-300 on bosses
02:54.03Djones_as shadow.
02:54.04blademeld27-29
02:54.07Djones_In gnomer.
02:54.14Djones_Think I did 400 as disc though :p
02:54.20blademeldyep, the hunter was soing 150 and the tank was doing 150 as well
02:54.26blademeldso balls
02:54.27Djones_full heirlooms as well for me.
02:54.40Djones_Hmm, no wait.
02:54.46Noxythis is a pretty neat show.
02:54.46Djones_250-300 was the one with herrr.
02:54.57Djones_the guys with two heads
02:55.01Djones_Fuck me, names escape me.
02:55.11Djones_And you can fight them, or become their king.
02:55.27Djones_I recall 186 on the spider boss on the platform in gnomer.
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03:11.09NoxyHoly shit this show is amazing.
03:13.26dogelStormscape
03:13.33dogeli think the cute german is in my house;.
03:13.35dogel.
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05:09.35dogelStormscape you still here
05:10.05dogelif not: I FELT HIS BICEPS. holy mother that guy is so well built. /swoooooon
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05:52.57fewyni just realized i can finally have one thing i've always wanted in a video game
05:52.59fewyngnomish monk
05:54.48fewynwatches the crickets
05:56.01dogeltumbleweeds
05:56.48fewynno one got my gnomish monk comment?
05:56.53fewyni'm sad
05:57.11starspunGnomes will be even more hated
05:58.25fewynsadly it's not funny if i have to explain it
05:58.27fewyn:(
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06:00.12dogelg0urra stop leaving and entering and leaving and entering D:
06:01.01g0urraD: I'm switching between hotel rooms and have no 3g
06:01.25g0urraso I live off wireless
06:03.05fewynhaha
06:03.09fewynget an irc bouncer
06:03.25fewynthen you won't lose stuff between disconnects
06:06.26g0urraI don't really care about that..
06:06.38fewynofft
06:06.40fewynpfft
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