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00:35.10Lothrikserious question: what defensive cooldowns do holy paladins have?
00:35.24Lothrik(I really have no idea, my paladin alt is level 2)
00:35.57Lothrikand by defensive cooldowns I mean something they can use to prevent somebody who is taking very high damage from dying
00:40.33JammerLothrik: Hand of Sacrifice, Lay on Hands, Hand of Protection come to mind right away
00:41.55JammerAura Mastery
00:42.07Lothrikhrmm
00:42.22LothrikI'm going to need to read up on the timing for baleroc shards
00:42.41Jammerthen you have the cooldowns to increase your healing
00:43.13JammerGuardian of Ancient Kings, Avenging Wrath and Divine Favor
00:43.31hristLothrik: divine protection
00:44.16Jammer^ self only
00:44.22hristtrue that
00:44.40Jammerbubble for self too
00:45.15hristya, haven't seen the last sentence
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01:00.56kullervoyou can't bubble the balrog shards
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01:09.46hristdoes it prevent you from getting dmg?
01:09.53hrist(even tho you're getting stacks)
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01:14.00Jammerhrist: no the damage goes through
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01:22.38ngacnlcqmorning
01:23.18ngacnlcqhttp://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/997159-MoP-Story-Leak
01:23.21ngacnlcqreal or fake
01:23.31Joltmeh~
01:23.37Joltcba to care anymore
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01:55.39Azelphurhaha, just did arenas with 2 arcane mages :D
01:55.46Azelphurgo invis, pick a target, pop all cooldowns, oneshot
01:56.02Azelphurwe killed the same guys 5 times in a row, oneshot the dps (shadow priest) and the healer just afk'd out lmfao
01:57.11TikiPriestwell duh, whats he gonna do
01:57.37Azelphurindeed, hilarity insued :p
01:57.59Azelphuralmost as good as the time me and this other guy was doing arenas and we resurrected one of them to kill him again XD
02:02.52BlackNetlol im bad
02:03.11BlackNeti did a pump and dump on the ah today with volatile life, made almost 9k gold from it
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02:05.51Alouriareally? volatile life on my realm isn't worth that much. D=
02:06.05BlackNetfew days ago it was going for 9g each.
02:06.15BlackNeti crashed the market and ppl were buying it at 22 a stack
02:06.22BlackNetflask and shit for raids
02:06.25Alouriahow many stacks did you sell?!
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02:06.39BlackNetenought to make almost 9k gold from it
02:07.15AlouriaId like to sell volatile, but the expensive ones like water are not as easy to get. seems like water takes forever gather compared to the others.
02:07.17AzelphurBlackNet: I make that much every few days vial of the sands ftw :D
02:07.35BlackNetyea not many ppl on this realm have that :(
02:07.55BlackNetnor any of the mounts really
02:07.59AzelphurBlackNet: I just farm my truegold transmutes and every time I get 12 truegold farm up a few herbs and post a vial of the sands :D
02:08.06Azelphurget about 10k profit a hit
02:08.14BlackNeti was goign to xmute the life to air and dump them on the market
02:08.21AlouriaI make most of my money from selling embersilk bolts by the stack for 300 gold. Its in pretty high demand on my realm =o
02:08.31Alouriaeasy to get too
02:09.23Azelphuras for volatile farming, I farm all my volatiles for truegold transmutes
02:09.35Azelphurthe best place for water imo is the elementals in twilight
02:10.12AlouriaActually I can confirm that, also fishing nodes work too. If you have the treasure finding potion on, you can get more.
02:10.28BlackNetgo stand in uldum and xmute to get vol air
02:11.25AlouriaHow much does it cost to make a vial of sands, and how much do you sell it for Azelphur?
02:12.16AzelphurI get my friend who has the level 25 guild perk to buy the regents for me
02:12.23Azelphurso it costs 26.3k for the vendor mats
02:12.25Azelphurand I farm the rest
02:12.40Azelphurthey usually sell 35-40k
02:13.17AlouriaSo about 40% profit for each sell, does it sell fast? =o
02:13.25AlouriaI think I should try that
02:13.34Azelphurnope, pretty slow sell tbh
02:13.39Azelphurtakes me like a week on average?
02:14.21AlouriaThats not bad to get about 15-20k outa it I'd think.
02:14.21Azelphurdo you have vial of the sands recipe?
02:14.48AlouriaNo, im working towards it because I want the mount first then sell them. But I'm wondering if its worth the time and money
02:15.19AzelphurIt's good for making money, but I warn you in advance the farm is really really horrible
02:15.20Azelphurunless you get lucky
02:16.09AlouriaI dont have even half the money yet to buy the vendor mats. How did you make the money to get that?
02:16.23kullervodailies?
02:16.36kullervothat's how I got my first 10k to start me off with market abuse
02:16.45AzelphurAlouria: I got a loan :D
02:16.51Azelphurfrom a guildy
02:17.21AlouriaHow does anyone get that much money so fast. Dailies dont make me 10k DX
02:18.08fewynyawn
02:18.24fewynhurp durp
02:18.24AzelphurAlouria: lol, I have 63k remaining after buying vial of the sands + chopper mats in one day :D
02:18.28fewynprospecting
02:18.30fewynso much work
02:19.08Alouria<---- is jealous. xD
02:19.10SephirothI wish I could make a ton of money, but I fail at it.
02:20.01SephirothWonder if there's a guide somewhere.
02:20.28AzelphurSephiroth: google that if you want to kill yourself with badness
02:21.59SephirothIndeed, Azelphur.
02:22.12SephirothI tried that and 99% of them want you to pay up. I refuse.
02:22.25Azelphurindeed
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02:23.49BlackNetguidl just got realm first h rag
02:23.53AlouriaI figure the best way is to start small first and now blow all your money on some big thing that may not sell or work out long term
02:23.53BlackNetone guild did
02:24.04Alouriaand not blow all your money*
02:24.51AzelphurAlouria: yea I took a bit of a gamble on the vial of the sands but it turned out good :D
02:25.47AlouriaIt goes for 50k or more on my realm. But its just getting the vendor materials thats a pain. your first 25k gold. I think selling truegold and embersilk was a good start
02:26.35Azelphurwow 50k, I wish I could sell mine for that
02:26.37AzelphurI'd be loaded xD
02:26.47kullervoI bought one for 45k
02:27.05Azelphurouch
02:27.09AzelphurI struggle to shift mine for 35
02:27.18kullervobecause in early cataclysm it was the "I have more gold than you, bitch" mount
02:27.27Alourialoool
02:29.15Sephiroththere's 1 person on my realm/faction currently trying to sell a vial for 55k.
02:30.46Azelphurhaha
02:30.56Azelphurwhy don't they buy it for that much on my realm sadface :(
02:30.59kullervoon AH?
02:31.08Sephirothyea
02:31.14kullervousually people sell them on trade chat
02:31.24AlouriaDepends, if there's lots of people selling it, they try to undersell you.
02:31.27AzelphurI sell mine on AH
02:31.34Azelphurand there's like 3 of them on there atm
02:33.28Azelphuryea 3 up atm, 34-40k
02:33.29AlouriaThe bidding war works very well. If you sell it for 50k buyout and put it up for 30k bid, people will try and out bid it each other. I get sooo mad when some guy sits at the auction house and out bids me on stuff the instant i do XD
02:33.55BlackNetwill be exalted next week with avengers
02:34.16AzelphurAlouria: been kinda tempted to put one up for bid but I have a feeling I'd just get ripped off
02:34.22kullervoAlouria: I did that with gems
02:34.53AzelphurAlouria: would be interesting to put one on for 1c bid
02:34.56Azelphurand then just /2 that it's there
02:35.15Azelphurand see what happens xD
02:35.25AlouriaAzelphur you'd be surprised how much people like to fight over stuff. lol
02:35.27hristJammer: bummer (divine shield + baloroc shards)
02:35.32Azelphurhehe
02:36.12AlouriaLike, I wanted these plans...at the time no one was bidding on them. I put a bid up for 14gold. I was like yay. someone else did instantly. We did this for a half hr up to 800 gold
02:36.30Alouriaalmost up the buyout, i gave up at that point
02:36.49Azelphurlol
02:37.09Azelphuryea but thing is if I don't get like 32k I make a loss
02:37.16AlouriaId try and go quest, and i'd get "you have been outbid by this sucker here LOLZ" XD
02:37.25AzelphurxD
02:40.15BlackNetlol
02:40.20BlackNeti have been doing that lately
02:40.32BlackNetfound this one suspected bot farmer and been undercutting the hell out of him
02:40.40Stormscapehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxaCOHT0pmI Bill Gates is the man
02:41.47ngacnlcqhttp://www.horsemenguild.com/index.php?option=com_jfusion&Itemid=53&jfile=viewtopic.php&f=9&t=8898
02:45.22AlouriaI dont usually bid on items that are only just under the buyout price, so dumb. lol. XD
02:50.19AlouriaThere's an auction house App for the iPhone right? lol
02:50.26BlackNetyes
02:50.32Alouriaomg, it explains it all DX
02:50.35kullervoBlizzard one, or one using the Blizzard API?
02:50.51BlackNetbliz one
02:50.53AlouriaOfficial one
02:50.54BlackNetmobile armory
02:50.58BlackNetyou need the sub for it tho
02:51.36kullervoAlouria: also no it doesn't, new year 2010 I had a laptop with me so I could abuse the AH while out of town
02:51.36Alouriamakes bidding wars a pain when I have to my character parked in front of the auction house, when they got a phone XD
02:51.47Alouria=O
02:52.08AlouriaI wish I had more gold. *cries* lool
03:01.58kullervohttp://kullervo.dy.fi/gallery/photos/screenshots/World%20of%20Warcraft/World_of_Warcraft-2011-08-15_23.22.38.jpg
03:03.32kullervothe next day: http://kullervo.dy.fi/gallery/photos/screenshots/World%20of%20Warcraft/World_of_Warcraft-2011-08-16_05.12.47.jpg
03:04.01kullervoor, in other words, one hour later
03:05.01Stormscapehttp://source.ncix.com/lp4/ca/AZIO_Levetron_Mech4/index.html jesus christ what the fuck
03:05.06Stormscapeugliest keyboard of all time winner?
03:05.48kullervoit's a bit like the microsoft X6, except a good lot uglier
03:05.58kullervowhy are the macro keys so huge
03:10.39AlouriaMy friend once said "my fingers are too fat" =P
03:11.58AlouriaHe has a huge one, mostly because he wanted lots of custom keys
03:12.06AlouriaI wish I could find the name on google
03:12.58StormscapeSo I kind of want a new mouse... any recommendations?
03:13.13AlouriaRazor mouse I heard is really good
03:13.29Alourialemme see if I can dig for a link
03:14.59fewynrazer naga
03:15.01Alouriahttp://store.razerzone.com/store/razerusa/en_US/pd/productID.169418900
03:15.02fewyn100%
03:15.28fewynmakes playing all kinds of games a lot more enjoyable
03:16.18StormscapeAlouria, fuck no.
03:16.35StormscapeI want a mouse, not a 2nd keyboard
03:16.37AlouriaStormscape O.o
03:16.44AlouriaOkay. lol. It was just a suggestion
03:16.58AlouriaYou weren't specific =P
03:17.06fewynthen get a generic logitech mouse
03:17.11fewynif you don't want extra buttons
03:17.22Stormscapefewyn completely misses the point as usual.
03:18.04fewynrazer has some good generic mouses
03:18.06blademeldthe point is that Stormscape only has one testicle
03:18.16Alouriak, instead of doing that just tell us what kind you're looking for. Can't read your mind silly.
03:18.37fewyni think it's called mamba or something?
03:19.08StormscapeHowever, the suggestion of Razer did lead to me noticing a mouse I do like
03:19.12Stormscapethe Imperator 2012.
03:19.43Stormscapethe Lachesis also looks interesting
03:21.09StormscapeYes, I think the Imperator 2012 will do nicely.
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03:21.18blademeldStormscape: what's new with the 2012 model?
03:21.24StormscapeThank you for the suggestion of Razer, Alouria.
03:21.28blademeldmy sister has the previous gen
03:21.47StormscapeFuck if I know, but it's cheaper than the previous version.
03:21.49StormscapeBy $5
03:21.51fewynhrm is there a spot in ZG i can stealth to and fish from?
03:22.08fewyndoesn't look like it
03:22.14blademeldfewyn: sprint and vanish tactic doesn't work?
03:22.24fewyntons of see through stealth mobs
03:22.31fewynjust died
03:22.41blademeldinv pot?
03:22.42Stormscapeblademeld: appears to be better laser
03:22.44AlouriaStormscape - I want the mamba. You'd totally like it. XD
03:22.44fewynworking on fishing achievements
03:22.44Stormscapeand ummmmm
03:22.48fewyni'll clear it later
03:22.49fewynor something
03:22.55StormscapeYeah that's it.
03:23.10blademeldStormscape: meh
03:23.16blademeldcost is nice
03:23.21StormscapeAlouria, no I wouldn't.
03:23.32AlouriaIs it the price? =P
03:23.34StormscapeI never use mouse buttons in video games except for Mouse 1 and Mouse 2
03:23.40AlouriaOoo
03:24.11AlouriaI use my 3 custom buttons on my mouse for autorun, jumping, and turning.
03:24.20StormscapeAlso, Mamba is wireless isn't it?
03:24.43StormscapeIf so, wireless + my house = nopenopenope
03:24.48blademeldcan be used both wireless or wired
03:24.54blademeldhas both modes
03:25.26StormscapeThat brings up my next question then: where would I get one
03:25.37StormscapeMamba 2012 is listed as "product not available" on NCIX
03:25.39blademeldNCIX
03:25.43fewynbest buy?
03:25.47blademeldor best buy
03:25.54StormscapeBest Buy sells computer parts?
03:25.59fewyni know i bought my naga at best buy
03:26.00blademeldyes
03:26.01fewynyes
03:26.05blademeldthey sell mobos too
03:26.06blademeldetc
03:26.07fewynthey sell keyboards and mouses
03:26.13fewynjust not many of the cpu/mobo/etc
03:26.15AlouriaThe Future shop and other stores here sell it too
03:26.28fewyncompusa / microcenter /frys
03:26.37fewyni forget where you live
03:26.46fewynso i can't be more specific
03:26.53blademeldStormscape: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=63458&vpn=RZ01-00120400-R3U1&manufacture=Razer
03:27.22StormscapeSays "This product is not available" on my end :|
03:27.33blademeldhurrr
03:27.35blademeldhurrrrrr
03:27.37blademeldhurrrrrrrrr
03:27.46blademeldI'm sure you can back order it
03:27.53AlouriaBlademeld - errr?
03:27.56StormscapeThis is what it says
03:27.57StormscapeThis Product is Not Available  
03:27.57StormscapeThis item is no longer available. Notify me if this product is available again.
03:28.00blademeldAlourrrrrrria
03:28.03blademeldLOL
03:28.06AlouriaXD
03:28.12fewynorder it directly from razer?
03:28.16StormscapeFuck that.
03:28.30fewynwelp then you're screwed unless you check the store
03:28.35fewyncall before going they might check for you
03:28.36StormscapeQuantity in stock at Best Buy for Mamba 2012: 0
03:28.40Stormscapeamazing.
03:28.45StormscapeI'll just buy an Imperator 2012
03:29.02fewyni need a new naga mine is getting pretty beaten up
03:29.19blademeldStormscape: lol
03:29.59blademeldfewynaga
03:31.34AlouriaI only like the custom buttons because for some games it can seriously help. Like I know im being lazy for putting my autorun as one of the buttons. But it also makes gathering stuff so much less painful.
03:31.43Alouria=P
03:32.46fewynmakes combat rotations a lot faster and i react a lot faster with it too
03:33.08fewyni was unsure of it when i first bought it
03:33.11fewynbut it was gooooood
03:34.58blademeldfewyn: dual wield nagas
03:35.04alaytoni have a naga
03:35.07alaytoni use 2 of its buttons
03:35.20blademeldalayton: left click and scroll button?
03:35.27alaytonwell
03:35.29alayton2 of its extra buttons
03:35.38alaytonwho uses their middle button
03:35.43alaytonwell
03:35.43fewyni do :(
03:35.46alaytonnew tabs i guess
03:35.46fewyni used it a lot today
03:35.49StormscapeI hate games that make you use MMB
03:35.51Stormscapeit's like
03:35.51Stormscape:|
03:35.52fewynfor that reason =p
03:35.55kullervowhat counts as extra? These days I consider 11 buttons to be "normal"
03:36.00fewynit's also my mount buttons
03:36.08Stormscapekuller: a standard mouse is 5 buttons
03:36.10fewynto be honest
03:36.14alaytoni use left, right, i guess middle, and 2 of the grid of buttons
03:36.15StormscapeLMB, MMB, RMB, back and forward
03:36.17fewynof the 12 buttons on the left side
03:36.21fewyni use
03:36.24fewyn4 of them
03:36.26Stormscapeanything beyond 5 is extra
03:36.28kullervoStormscape: a standard logitech scroll wheel counts as 5 buttons
03:36.29BlackNeti have been asking in trade on this stupid realm who has aeonaxx. not many knows wtf i am asking :( so far no one has it
03:36.35BlackNetthat's quite sad
03:36.38blademeldStormscape: my mouse, what I consider standard, is left, scroll and right
03:36.38fewynregularly, the rest of them if i need to
03:36.39alaytonthe "normal" 2 side buttons are positioned so badly that my fingers are nowhere near them
03:36.42fewynbut it's nice to have them
03:36.52fewynweird, they seem fine for me alayton
03:37.10alaytontheyre part of the edge of lmb
03:37.12alaytonthats useless
03:37.21alaytonyou cant use your thumb for that
03:37.50alaytonthe point, though, is that buying a naga was a waste
03:39.43fewynyou try to use your thumb on which buttons?
03:39.53Jammeralayton: isn't the numpad on thumb handy then?
03:39.55fewynthe back/fw buttons?
03:40.04fewyni use my index finger for those
03:40.05AlouriaOn my mouse there are 3 buttons where my thumb is, i use them all the time =)
03:40.11alaytonyoure supposed to be able to use your thumb, but you cant
03:40.16fewynyou are?
03:40.20fewynthat would seem awkward
03:40.22alaytonon a normal mouse
03:40.25StormscapeI find it hilarious that Chrome is having such a hard time loading google.ca quickly
03:40.28fewyni've never done it that way
03:40.36alaytonbut a naga is all fucked up for the sake of having a grid of buttons
03:40.40fewynon any mouse, unless they are like on the bottom low side
03:40.56alaytontheyre *supposed* to be on the side
03:41.07fewynshrug
03:41.10alaytontheyve been on the side on all of the best mice
03:42.05AlouriaStormscape - Ironic. XD
03:44.32StormscapeAlouria, yeah it's actually stuttering when trying to load my account's black background
03:44.42Stormscapeso badly that it registers my search string all at once
03:50.08fewynhrm
03:50.14fewyndo i want to goto mlg orlando?
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04:03.45poeticdragonalayton is talking in here... weird.
04:09.16BlackNetmight be changing raid teams, dunno yet
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05:59.20doggleLugburz
05:59.28Lugburzsups
05:59.35Lugburzdoggle: whats up
05:59.36dogglecan i show you
05:59.37dogglesomething
05:59.39dogglesuper weird
05:59.40doggleLOL
05:59.45Lugburzuh ok
05:59.47Lugburzw/e
05:59.57dogglehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUqtnA9M8eI
05:59.59doggleskip to about :40
06:00.16Lugburzwadsworth cosntant of course
06:00.29dogglei thought you might bring that up
06:00.35dogglebut no it actually starts at :40
06:00.36doggleLOL
06:00.53Lugburzthat group up guys
06:00.59LugburzLOL
06:01.08Lugburzits classic japan \o/
06:01.18dogglei know eh LOL
06:01.42Lugburzhttp://www.livestream.com/newchannel/popoutplayer?channel=owsoccupyseattle
06:01.46Lugburzso fucking hilarious
06:01.57Lugburzthe girl is such a dipshit and drum circles in the background
06:03.17dogglewhats with the man in a cape
06:03.17doggleLOL
06:03.55Lugburzidk
06:04.08Lugburzits just a bunch of stoners
06:04.51dogglehey have you ever watched the movie invictus
06:05.11LugburzI feel likeI have but dont remember :|
06:06.11doggleaugh
06:06.13doggleim supposed to making some
06:06.16dogglepersonal response to it
06:06.29dogglebut i fell asleep during the movie cause i thought it was boring as hell
06:06.40Lugburzah
06:06.45doggleit was like, niggers in suits and white people playing rugby
06:07.08Lugburzoh yeah
06:07.10Lugburzhavent seen it w/e
06:07.28doggleits about how if you believe, people will stop being ~*~racist~*~
06:07.33doggleor some dumb shit
06:07.34Lugburzdoggle: say some shit about how it really affected your emotions about apartheid
06:07.58doggleyeah
06:08.04Lugburz^_^
06:08.06Lugburzafk
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08:05.38Lothrikdoes anybody here know what the cooldown is for H baleroc's countdown ability?
08:06.01Lothrik10man if it matters
08:08.54rosemountoh I'm fine, Lugburz
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10:32.03zawopakanyone else unable to get to ptr.wowhead.com ?
10:32.27zawopaka DNS lookup says it doesn't exist
10:40.42BundyResolved ptr.wowhead.com to 173.193.11.36 (F11 - copy to clipboard)
10:41.56zawopakback again now
10:41.58zawopakodd.
10:42.14zawopakit wasn't resolving either at home or from my server in the docklands datacentre
10:43.04Bundyyou know you're a geek when you start researching WHY you cant reach a site :D
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10:49.53OwkkuriBundy: http://xkcd.com/242/
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10:54.47tatePTR Character Copy Average Wait Time: 4 days
10:55.05tatefuck you blizzard, was like a week 1 hour and now it's like dat? /_\
10:56.25StormscapeAnybody know if standard Intel mount brackets will work on LGA2011 when it comes out? Or will I have to e-mail Corsair to get them to ship me new brackets if I get an LGA2011 motherboard?
10:57.02tatesec
10:57.38tateit's working with LGA1366
10:58.25tateand umm, second..
10:58.37tateyeah that should be okay
10:59.07StormscapeSo 2011 is same bracket points as 1366?
10:59.21tateUusi LGA 2011 -kanta on oletettavasti yhteensopiva nykyisten Core i7 900 -sarjan LGA 1366 -kantaisten prosessoreiden jäähdytysratkaisuiden kanssa.
10:59.24tateyes
10:59.27tate:D
10:59.32StormscapeI DON'T SPEAK VIKING
10:59.49tateit's called winnish :}
11:00.43tatei'm still running with 775, QX9650 and never had any problems with anything. cba people getting new and "better"
11:01.00tatevpenis+ must be the only thing
11:01.44StormscapeWell I'm using an AMD at the moment and after the disappointment that's Bulldozer want to get an Intel monster with my vacation pay in January
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11:15.11Bundytate : seriously, are intel launching a new socket, AGAIN?
11:15.20Bundysocket trolls
11:20.15hyljescumbag socket
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11:57.19StormscapeBundy, LGA2011 is a replacement for LGA1366
11:58.41Stormscapeand it's downright ridiculous
11:58.51hylje>2011
11:58.52StormscapeNo North Bridge, Quad-channel 1600 memory controllers
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11:59.07Stormscapemassive L3 caches
12:38.37tatewhy can't they just leave all that incoming change for one new socket like amd launching BD
12:38.58StormscapeLGA2011 is a long term socket
12:39.08Stormscapelike, expected lifespan of 3+ years like 1366
12:39.16Stormscapeit's more of a server socket
12:39.21Stormscapethat has a few desktop SKUs
12:39.21tateoh wow, 3+ years.
12:39.36Stormscapewhereas 1155 is the intended desktop socket
12:39.51StormscapeThink of it this way: Intel sells desktop CPUs in their server socket.
12:39.55StormscapeThat's what 1366 and 2011 is
12:40.02StormscapeAMD doesn't do that.
12:40.45tatei'm still using S775 and when it was launched? like 2006
12:40.55tatethey should do that in every 5 years or so, not once for a year
12:41.16Stormscape1155 is going to be used in Ivy Bridge and probably its successor too
12:41.24StormscapeIt's not like 2011 is replacing 1155
12:41.27Stormscapeit's not supposed to
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12:47.01StormscapeAlso
12:47.04Stormscape775 launched in 2004
12:47.05Stormscapenot 2006
12:47.23StormscapeIt was hilariously outdated by the time it was replaced
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13:08.53blademeldStormscape: AHHHHHHHHH?
13:09.04Stormscapeblarfgh
13:11.16blademeldARG ME MATIES
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15:28.04TikiPriestim debating turning my pali from tank to heal
15:29.06blademeldTikiPriest: why not have both?
15:29.14TikiPriesti could i guess
15:29.29TikiPriesti need new gear for both anyway
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15:29.57blademeldTikiPriest: stack up PvE points for tank gear and PvP points for healing
15:29.59blademeldproblem solved
15:30.06blademeldalso, grind rep with g0urra
15:30.12blademeldpelvic grind
15:30.14g0urrawhat
15:30.16TikiPriestya baby
15:30.30TikiPriestits funny cause my pali is pve tank pvp healing
15:31.46blademeldg0urra: just talking about your butt
15:31.53g0urra...
15:36.01blademeldnananananananananananananananana
15:36.03blademeldnnaaa
15:36.05blademeldnananana
15:36.07blademeldnah
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15:41.26blademeldTikiPriest: link ur 2n
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15:42.36Joltyawns
15:42.40JoltYo!
15:44.45blademeldJolt: link ur cake
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15:45.03Joltwhat
15:45.12JoltMy.. cake D:?
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16:17.41TikiPriestblademeld wut?
16:18.33blademeldTikiPriest: link your character
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16:19.12TikiPriestoh my crappy pali lol sec
16:19.55TikiPriesthttp://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/zuljin/Caraisaqt/simple just got a new relic, havent done heroics yet
16:21.55blademeldTikiPriest: needs more rep gear
16:22.40blademeldTikiPriest: also, reforge your gear
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16:25.29TikiPriestwowreforge.com said it was fine
16:26.29blademeldanything that doesn't have mastery on it should be reforged to mastery
16:26.53blademeldanything with hit/expertise + mastery on it should be reforged to dodge/parry
16:27.47blademeldthis is the mantra of the tanks
16:28.07rosemountI couldn't believe you don't need the hit cap
16:28.26blademeldwhat is this hitcap you speak of?
16:28.36rosemount8% something
16:28.49blademeld>.>
16:28.52blademeldwhoosh
16:29.12TikiPriestso, dodge or parry for exp/mastery
16:29.17TikiPriestim reforging the exp
16:30.19blademeldyou can reforge amulet weapon shield relic boots and trinket
16:30.30TikiPriestim reforging the neck
16:30.50kullervojust the neck?
16:31.13TikiPriestwell i cant do all of them at once
16:31.22blademeldenchant the cloak, glove, wrist, pants
16:31.22rosemountTikiPriest: http://goo.gl/2z7fk :P
16:31.25blademeldlol
16:31.33blademeldyou can't do them all at once?
16:31.41TikiPriestwell, only one spot to put an item in
16:32.30blademeldoh
16:32.30blademeldyou're doing as we speak
16:32.33blademeldrather
16:32.35blademeldtype
16:32.41TikiPriestyes
16:32.55blademeldalso, kullervo is a serial rapist
16:33.03blademeldlisten to him or he'll be in your closet
16:33.26TikiPriestfine by me
16:36.36kullervoTikiPriest: until you reach combined 97,4% dodge+parry+block you'll want to reforge the bigger stat into mastery
16:37.16kullervofor example on your helm, reforge the dodge instead of expertise because that yields more Combat Table Coverage or as it's commonly called, CTC.
16:37.38blademeldTikiPriest: hard or soft 97.4%
16:37.47blademelderr
16:37.52blademeldthat was aimed at kullervo
16:37.53TikiPriestlol
16:38.01kullervosoft one being raidbuffed?
16:38.12blademeldI was thinking pre-mastery proc trinks
16:38.14TikiPriestso instead of doing all the dodge/parry just do mastery till 97.4%?
16:38.21Joltsneezes
16:38.26TikiPriestim conbfused
16:38.28kullervono, mastery proc trinkets suck for paladins because most of the proc gets wasted even with 359 gear
16:38.31blademeldI'm always assume raid buffs
16:38.50kullervoat lower gear levels you'll want to use mastery food and mastery+resistance elixirs, anyway
16:38.53blademeldyeah... prot paladins need their mastery redesigned
16:39.48TikiPriestyes no?
16:39.54kullervomyself I'm at the point where I really don't need more EH for anything and I can't possibly socket any more stamina in my gear so I'll have to reforge into avoidance >_>
16:40.15blademeldNEEDS MROE STAM
16:40.40kullervo197.8k raidbuffed, I think that's enough
16:41.29kullervoit's not ICC anymore >_>
16:41.29blademeldhttp://blanksheetofpaper.com/
16:41.31blademeldHAHAHA
16:41.42blademeldlolICC
16:41.52blademeldYOUR HEALERS MISSED A HEAL?
16:41.56blademeldBAI NOW
16:42.17TikiPriestso yeah, ill reforge mastery till 97%
16:42.26blademeldyes'
16:42.46kullervo97.4%!
16:42.49kullervoraidbuffed!
16:43.09TikiPriestlol i dont raid
16:43.15blademeldwhat is love?
16:43.32kullervowell in that case, you'll probably have to cap it without buffs then
16:44.07TikiPriestbe funny to see all my items Reforged > Matery
16:46.01blademeldkullervo: nah, he doesn't need 97.4% against 82 mobs
16:46.10kullervohmm true
16:46.29kullervoisnt it something like... 94% then?
16:46.34TikiPriestwill be starting heroics so i probably will
16:47.48blademeldkullervo: better practice would be aim for 97.4% raidbuffed and stick with it for Tol'Barad since he is undergeared for newer bosses (4.3 etc)
16:48.24kullervoTol'Barad? Seriously?
16:48.32kullervoI tanked the first boss in mostly greens!
16:48.47kullervoThe new ones aren't that much worse for the tanks
16:49.07kullervowell, I haven't seen the 4.3 one but I suppose what I said to be true
16:49.59blademeldI don't know
16:50.06blademeldI've never been to Tol'Barad
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16:50.28blademeldall I remember is that my first Wintergrasp Raid thing was horrible
16:50.31kullervoand to be more exact the location of the bosses is Baradin Hold
16:50.52kullervoblademeld: yeah VoA was pretty bad, but mostly due to poor dps
16:51.24kullervoat some point I started the "any dps below me [the tank] gets no loot" rule
16:52.36blademeldright now I'm not in a raiding guild and I can't get a TB raid going
16:52.43blademeldI -should- reroll tank
16:52.48kullervodoesn't your realm do pugs?
16:52.54blademeldbut again, not raiding guild
16:52.57blademeldlolno
16:52.59blademeldmy realm sucks
16:53.05kullervodaww
16:53.12kullervowe even pug FL
16:53.20blademeldI should xfer
16:53.30blademeldbut I can't justify the cost with 4.3 raid finder
16:54.16kullervohttp://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/defias-brotherhood/Bar%C3%BAm/advanced
16:54.38kullervogoblins have the worst animations ever, but their racials are imba :|
16:55.06Freyja[The Wowhead Blog] Public Test Realm Patch 4.3 Notes: Updated 10/13 - http://www.wowheadnews.com/blog=196284/public-test-realm-patch-4-3-notes-updated-10-13
16:55.40blademeldkullervo: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/draktharon/Concepts/advanced
16:56.02TikiPriesti got the reforginator addon, that should help
16:56.02kullervowhy no heirloom weapon? :O
16:56.16blademeldbecause I haven't run heroics in a while
16:56.21kullervoCrusader is OP as fuck because it seems to proc from everything, including rend
16:56.22blademeldso I couldn't afford it
16:56.34kullervoso it heals for... quite a lot D:
16:56.49blademeldkullervo: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/draktharon/Lavinette/advanced
16:56.54blademeldhere's my other alt
16:56.56blademeldNO SHOULDERS
16:56.59blademeldNO CHEST
16:57.00blademeldlol
16:57.06kullervoterrible
16:57.11blademeldhttp://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/draktharon/Lavinet/advanced
16:57.12kullervoand that dagger doesn't have fiery weapon
16:57.15blademeldcurrent main
16:57.21kullervoconsidering these days all races start next to a mailbox
16:57.28blademeldcan't do fiery yet, only 27G on alliance
16:57.46blademeldtrying to cover both markets on this realm
16:57.52blademeldbecause this realm kinda sucks balls
16:58.23blademeldRed gem was cheaper than Purple gem
16:58.24blademeldkik
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17:13.36blademeldsomeone entertain me
17:13.57fewynhttp://blogs.battlefield.ea.com/battlefield_bad_company/archive/2011/10/13/battleblog-13-from-the-streets-of-paris-to-the-outskirts-of-tehran-battlefield-3-multiplayer-map-reveal.aspx##
17:14.03fewynI HOPE YOU ARE ENTERTAINED
17:15.18blademeldOo
17:15.51fewyn12 more days
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18:06.43blademeldhits kullervo with a stick
18:08.23kullervoflings piles of office paper at blademeld
18:09.29kullervowhich glyphs should I take for prot warrior leveling?
18:09.47kullervoRevenge, Cleaving?
18:10.10kullervoVictory Rush is okay but ends up overhealing most of the time because all the healers are priests who refuse to spec into Atonement
18:10.37blademeldhow many glyphs do you have at levle 41?
18:10.40blademeldlevel*
18:10.43kullervo1 of each
18:10.44blademeld3 or 6?
18:11.36blademeldrevenge for sure
18:11.55Joltwho want to buy me a spectral tiger for my bday :D?
18:12.00kullervono one
18:12.01blademeldCleaving if you pull single packs only, TC radius or resonating if you pull more than one
18:12.02JoltT_T
18:12.05blademeldJolt: diaf
18:12.07blademeld<3
18:12.10Joltlol
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18:12.17kullervoblademeld: I usually pull 3-4 packs if the instance isn't too loosely paced
18:12.28Joltbut it's my bday in 5 days :D
18:12.43kullervoSM Lib I usually cleared in two pulls
18:12.47kullervothe mages were a bit whiny about that
18:12.54blademeldkullervo: if you ever miss any with TC (like I do) then the 2 yards is nice
18:12.58blademeldlol
18:13.05blademeldno time to do Blizzard
18:13.14kullervono time to regen mana :P
18:13.19blademeldlol
18:13.30kullervoall the noobs speccing arcane for leveling
18:13.48blademeldbecause with average or subpar tanks, that's the only way to roll
18:13.52kullervoif they just went frost their group would have less mana issues, hence less downtime
18:14.00blademeldthough, they do have dual spec and should know when to switch
18:15.12kullervomeh demo shout is lvl 52
18:15.59blademeldkullervo: the only reason I slow down on pulls are when the healers can't keep with with my loving <3
18:16.14blademeldor when they start looting instead of healing
18:16.15kullervoblademeld: I had a warrior tank who was pretty good at chainpulling
18:16.18blademeldgoddamn loot
18:16.33kullervoit was... interesting to heal him because I didn't have time to cast any smites
18:16.52kullervoholy fire *rocket jump* renew bubble smite run run holy fire
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18:19.16blademeldkullervo: wrong order
18:20.15blademeldbubble tank rocket jump holy fire an additional pack bubble self renew tank bubble tank
18:20.50blademeldor do what I do and bubble alt-tab alt tab bubble
18:22.17kullervoblademeld: bubble is expensive as hell and has worse healing per cast time than HFire
18:22.29kullervoplus it has a HoT component which is cool
18:22.47kullervoI also think warriors still don't gain rage from fully absorbed hits
18:23.14blademeldI think you've missed the part about pulling instead of the tank
18:23.55kullervonah that's hard because the tank can keep moving and do what they do, but they'll die if I stop casting for long enough
18:24.09blademeldkullervo: SW:P then
18:24.09kullervomy goal, obviously, is to deal more damage than the other dps players
18:24.13blademeldxD
18:24.30kullervoyeah I only sw:p on bosses and large packs that I believe to die slow
18:25.16blademeldlevel 61, still doing more DPS as DIsc than Shadow
18:25.18blademeld<PROTECTED>
18:25.45kullervoyou're doing it wrong :O
18:26.11kullervoon my alliance priest I could do more DPS as shadow on lvl... 51 I think
18:26.55kullervoyou WILL oom if you can't get sw:d kills though
18:27.06blademeldthat might be why
18:27.15blademeldoh
18:27.24blademeldhurr
18:28.02kullervothe mechanic is forgiving, you don't even have to land the actual kill as long as the mob dies roughly at the same time
18:28.16Djones_Yeah
18:28.28Djones_When I was levelling my priest, I frequently topped the dps meter as the healer until about level 70
18:28.29blademeldI don't use SW:D a lot on trash
18:28.35blademeldwhich might be why
18:28.52kullervooh and you should use it on cooldown even if it won't kill the mob
18:29.52blademeldcan't, healers don't heal me
18:30.02blademeldI'm like lol50% hp
18:30.29Djones_Vampiric embrace?
18:30.31kullervoDjones_: on my warrior I did wild chainpulls in SM yesterday, averaging about 600 dps... on my priest I could do maybe half that at best
18:30.44Djones_Yes, but that's a tank.
18:30.49blademeldDjones_: not enough to recover from SW:D damage on trash
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18:34.44blademeld25 min before class
18:34.49blademeldgoing for lunch and class
18:34.53blademeldttyl
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18:49.41kullervoOh hell
18:49.57kullervosomeone's beaten my record!
18:50.31kullervo4t12 ret pff
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19:03.52hristkullervo: ;p
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19:09.48kullervoI'm not mad I'm disappointed
19:10.11kullervothe abilities used suggest the record was purely RNG and not based on proper ability priorization
19:11.47Ward5that's what people in my guild used to say when I raided as fire
19:11.53Ward5and I had those massive combustion ticks
19:12.06Ward5yet I managed to get them consistently every fight
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19:15.24tatehttp://is12.snstatic.fi/kuvat/lindex/img-1288581622939.jpeg
19:17.02Ward5what's that mean?
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19:46.05Freyja[The Wowhead Blog] Patch 4.3 - PTR Build 14849 - Spell Changes and More - http://www.wowheadnews.com/blog=196294/patch-4-3-ptr-build-14849-spell-changes-and-more
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20:40.05Wardgah
20:40.12Wardmy wireless craps out when I move around to much :p
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20:44.23Sephirothgood grief, still no mage nerfs!
20:49.22kullervothey... don't need any
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21:04.11Wardmages are fine
21:04.14Wardl2p
21:04.28TikiPriestfor tanking addon, sushi mark looks god, any other marking ones i should get?
21:04.44TikiPriestand mages are fine, my fury warrior in pve gear beats em pretty well :P
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21:14.24Wardon my mage, I can pretty much kite warriors around indefinitely
21:14.27Wardunless they're fury
21:14.40Wardthey just charge to a zillion times and one shot you with their pve gear
21:16.05TikiPriestlol
21:21.06Juippisjust deep freeze and shatter them
21:21.07Juippisthey die
21:23.34WardI gotta go pack my bag for tomorrow
21:23.47Juippiswhat's gonna happen tomorrow :o
21:24.00kullervoTikiPriest: why do you need a marking addon?
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21:25.32TikiPriestcause im lazy and dont feel like right clicking half the time
21:26.26Juippiswell you can mark with mouseover macros, too
21:26.55kullervoI don't even mark
21:27.12Juippisyeah, or that
21:27.13TikiPriesti dont usualy
21:27.28TikiPriestthough i did install the sushi one that marks the target im on
21:29.18TikiPriestanyone seen http://www.noxxic.com/ and can say if its pretty accurate?
21:34.47TikiPriestmust be, reading it makes sense on what blademeld and kullervo went over with me for my paly earlier
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21:39.20tatei've seen that too
21:39.26tateseemed pretty accurate for me
21:39.54tatebig part is pretty basic tho that u can not miss on lvl 85
21:40.31tateSince you're Hit Capped, your goal when reforging should be to gain as much Crit as possible. On any gear without Crit, reforge Haste (first priority) or Mastery into Crit. If any gear has excessive amounts of Hit Rating (past the cap), reforge the Hit into Crit as well.
21:40.36tatewould disagree that on pve
21:41.00tatei personally do like more haste than crit. crit will always be around 18-20% when everything has been reforged to haste
21:41.06tateplus all raidbuffs etc.
21:41.11tateas a hunter
21:41.42tatecrit = pvp prio, haste with balanced dps and still pretty insane crits = haste
21:41.47tatebut that's just like how i like it
21:42.32tatejust minimized my wow-client, i will hate myself if book did spawn and i missed it..
21:42.35TikiPriestwell, there is a feedback area
21:44.00tatenah, i'll pass. not my thing to tell anyone to do anything
21:44.08tatethey do what they do and i do what i do, derp.
21:45.06kullervotate: hunters have haste break points too
21:45.37tatenot following, blame my poor english and being tired. once again.
21:46.16tatei keep my crit on pve near the 20%, maybe a bit less and will get the rest % from buffs
21:46.32tateatm i'm reforged everything to crit and i'm standing for 22.17%
21:47.30tatebut yeah, i would spec a bit different for pve. 15% more stamina is pretty useless, same as longer traps
21:47.51tatecould use it for pet focus regen or so
21:51.08Djones_TikiPriest, it's wrong for spriests.
21:51.11Djones_Or rather, far too simplistic.
21:51.31kullervoit's wrong for paladins too
21:51.34TikiPriesthavent checked spriests yet
21:51.58TikiPriesti did see they were asking for feedback on twitter
21:51.59kullervothe aoe rotation is terribly suboptimal
21:53.00kullervoSoR in general is a damage loss in an aoe situation and HW deals less damage than judgement
21:53.23kullervo9k total damage vs 10 targets ":D"
21:53.47kullervoRetribution Aura does more threat than that
21:56.57TikiPriesti use sot and wrath only on dragon/undead
21:58.45TikiPriestwell when tanking, i thik you mean ret
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22:13.30tateHAH
22:13.35tate[Higher Learning]
22:16.03TikiPriestCARBONITE: Enimey Winkie deteceted near you
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23:04.31fewynserver is being restarted
23:04.52TikiPriesteu?
23:05.08fewynue
23:05.09fewynus
23:05.14TikiPriesthuh
23:05.29fewynUS
23:05.30fewynnot eu
23:05.32TikiPriestUSA
23:05.34TikiPriestlol
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23:05.42fewynbetter?
23:05.45TikiPriestthe huh wasnt at you though sorry
23:05.49fewynSORRY
23:05.51fewynI'M CONFUSED
23:05.52TikiPriest!
23:05.54fewynI'VE GOT A HEADACHE
23:06.38fewynat least i now have speakers and can music to drown my brain out
23:06.57TikiPriesti do the headphone thing for that
23:07.22fewynyeah i'm at home
23:07.39fewynand i prefer headset for vent/mumble and phone calls
23:07.39TikiPriestah
23:08.31TikiPriestand all ptr realms are down now i see :/
23:09.54TikiPriestnow i see the update for rolling restarts
23:12.54TikiPriestSERVER: Restart in 12:00
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23:19.27Sephirothhmm, wonder what the realm is restarting for.
23:19.42TikiPriestno idea, mine is in about 4 minutes
23:19.47Sephirothsame
23:19.52Sephirothus uldaman
23:19.57TikiPriestus zul'jin
23:23.03blademeldoooh
23:23.04blademeldahhh
23:23.06blademeldhiii
23:23.09TikiPriesthttp://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3341758908
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23:24.46TikiPriestwow the idiots spamming on my server with the last 15 seconds
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23:27.59blademeldlol
23:28.02blademeldnot doing anything
23:30.13TikiPriestnice troll youhad in chat haha
23:35.03kullervo02:34 [2. T] [Wrath]: of the Lich King
23:43.41blademeldgoddamn shamans
23:45.24Juippisyou better position yourself in vashjr
23:45.31Juippisand hunt for poseidus after restart
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