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01:43.07TikiPriesti know achieves on the ptr mean nothing, but irnonman as a non premade disc priest rofl
01:43.51tatehttp://eu.battle.net/wow/en/arena/stormreaver/3v3/thecatwhopoopsrainbow/
01:43.52tatelols
01:44.07tatelost few after that updated tho
01:44.29TikiPriestwtf haha
01:44.42TikiPriestI have fluffers :x
01:44.48TikiPriestand we so noob
02:11.44BlackNetwohooo so we downed rag tonight. finally
02:12.30BlackNethad a guy from one of the top guilds on the server in group with us. said it was the cleanest rag kill he has ever seen
02:14.14StormkittyI was never happy with a boss kill unless it was sloppy, undermanned and we did it with no tanks left alive
02:14.35StormkittyReal pros 22 man everything
02:14.46BlackNeti have been getting on to the group for being sloppy and disorganized. they have been improving loads to so that's good
02:15.14BlackNetbut once they down a boss it's like instant farm status for the most part. they understand so much about the fight its unreal at that time.
02:40.02kullervothat's because every one of them has done every single mistake imaginable
02:40.26BlackNetindeeed
03:03.30Mr_Rabieshrmmmm, sUF isn't really my cup of tea, what unit frames addons does everyone use? :O
03:06.11BlackNetelvui.
03:06.17BlackNetnuff said
03:08.19Sephirothelvui here too. :D
03:11.29BlackNet:)
03:22.55BlackNetSephiroth you using recount or skada?
03:23.11BlackNethttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMzTmNv5ah0 here is the trinketbar that i wrote
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03:37.17kullervoBlackNet: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/defias-brotherhood/vji/advanced
03:37.29kullervoshame I can't reforge the "real" tank pieces to av oidance
03:37.49BlackNetcool, 2 shannox kills
03:37.59kullervopost-nerf, I missed the pre-nerf kill :(
03:38.00BlackNetwe are going to start on that next week
03:38.11BlackNetyea but whats done is done
03:38.15kullervoI've got over 42% avoidance unbuffed
03:38.35kullervo"yeow"
03:38.41BlackNetnice
03:38.52BlackNeti droped working on my avoidant set when i heard of the nerf coming up
03:39.09BlackNeti would have prefered if they had given us the option to enable it or not
03:39.17kullervoto what end?
03:39.31BlackNet?
03:40.04kullervoless loot, no achievements for "easy" heroics
03:40.12kullervosomething like that, otherwise it wouldn't make sense
03:40.25BlackNetsport
03:40.38kullervothat's not enough of a reason to do something like that
03:40.44BlackNetnerfing firelands like that took the sport out of the game for most of my group
03:41.07kullervowell, why haven't you started on heroics yet then?
03:41.14kullervoI assure you they're still not *easy*
03:41.22kullervoexcept for Shannox which always was a faceroll boss in heroic
03:42.13kullervoeasier than normal, I'd say
03:42.15kullervostrategy wise
03:42.41kullervohmmh. Have you got any suggestions for what to enchant on the boots?
03:42.41BlackNetwe have a rather odd group to say the least
03:42.49BlackNetlemme look
03:42.50kullervoI've got armor on the cape just so it wouldn't be unenchanted
03:44.02BlackNetwell there is the dps enchants :)
03:44.18BlackNeti have mastery on my boots
03:44.24BlackNethttp://maintankadin.failsafedesign.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=29733
03:44.26kullervome too, on the ctc ones
03:45.00kullervoshould go kill HC maloriak for the token
03:45.03BlackNetImage [Enchant Boots - Precision] : +50 Hit Rating : Enchanting
03:45.33kullervobtw, the two trinkets I have
03:45.45BlackNetok here's the deal.
03:45.46kullervothey can be used at once
03:46.01BlackNetwe have 3-4 dps that's uber heavy and damned good. cant get all of them at the same time sadly.
03:46.10BlackNetmy OT can barely get his hatchling down as it is now
03:46.18kullervolol
03:46.19kullervoin normal?
03:46.25BlackNeti get my side down about 40-45% in to the phase
03:46.27BlackNetyhes
03:46.44BlackNeti run over to help him out and it dies into the tornado phase, AFTER the nerf.
03:46.46kullervoI now have like half a minute to just run around
03:46.52BlackNetmy OT is the weak link in the raid group
03:47.07BlackNethe's a warrior and for the life of me i cant get him to do more damage
03:47.11kullervolast week I would've picked feathers had the warrior tank not failed
03:47.30BlackNeti am convinced i could 1 tank alysrazor now
03:47.32kullervoI was supposed to pick up the bird but it opted to go for the fury warrior who promptly tanked it until the boss died during air phase
03:47.42kullervoI am convinced you couldn't
03:47.51kullervoyou don't have enough cleave damage
03:47.54kullervowarriors and druids do
03:47.57Sephiroth[22:37:05]--- Highlight on #wowhead at 22:22:43
03:47.58Sephiroth[22:37:05] <BlackNet> Sephiroth you using recount or skada?
03:47.59Sephirothrecount.
03:48.07kullervopaladins scale terribly on 2-3 targets
03:48.19BlackNetperhaps
03:48.31kullervono you don't get it
03:48.38kullervowarriors and druids have solo tanked the birds for a long time
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03:48.49BlackNetguy just told me he did that on his dk
03:48.52kullervofor a paladin it would be extremely difficult even after the nerfs
03:49.02Sephirothwhy, BlackNet?
03:49.10kullervothat's fine, DKs have heart strike that hits very hard
03:49.11BlackNetmight be the challange ive been looking for
03:49.23StormkittySo I did some basic math. If I spend more than $18,000 a year with my Debit card, my bank will pay /me/ to bank with them.
03:49.23kullervodo it, then
03:49.25StormkittyFlawless victory.
03:49.30kullervomy healers have been pushing me into solo tanking the birds
03:49.36kullervoI'm inclined to try next week if we'll still do normal
03:49.45BlackNetim not playing at my full potential due to the raid comp we have going. im having to be bored and held back because what they are doing
03:49.46Jammerhave people been doing that pre-nerf?
03:49.50kullervoyes
03:49.53kullervodruids and warriors
03:50.42BlackNethonestly i have yet to see a warrior get the hatchling down in time,
03:50.54BlackNeti konw they can but i have seen plenty who cant
03:50.57kullervothat's because you've only seen bad warriors
03:51.02BlackNetindeed so
03:51.15BlackNetin fact i want to find a good one and find out what the fuck this scrub is doing wrong
03:51.18kullervoI should roll one myself to show everyone in the guild how easy class it is
03:51.20SephirothMy main tank is a warrior who can take care of his hatchling with no problem.
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03:52.27BlackNethere
03:52.32BlackNethttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUj1fKvLYyw watch this
03:52.38BlackNetthat's my pov
03:52.46BlackNetpre-nerf
03:53.28Mr_Rabieson normal, BlackNet?
03:53.41BlackNetyes normal
03:54.03blademeldI will murder Mr_Rabies with a fork
03:54.03Mr_Rabiescause on normal we're now waiting about 20 seconds after worms are dead where we just have a short conversation while waiting on tornadoes
03:54.05blademeldjust you wait
03:54.10blademeldJUST YOU WAIT
03:54.33BlackNeti now help out on the adds you interrupt as well, we can nuke the first one before the egg's are up
03:54.50Mr_Rabieswe sent 2 people up this week
03:54.53Mr_Rabieswe're gonna send 3 next week
03:55.06BlackNetnot sure how many we sent up this week.
03:55.06Mr_Rabiessee if we can down her in one phase
03:55.16BlackNeti konw one week no one went up just for grins and giggles.
03:55.27Sephirothmyself and a warlock went up this week.
03:55.28BlackNetoh hey
03:55.41Sephirothplays a balance druid
03:55.46BlackNetwould you mind looking at the wol entry for my OT on alysrazor and see if you can tell me what he's doing wrong?
03:56.47BlackNethttp://worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-eo5ap6n5mr5htjrc/sum/damageDone/?s=4573&e=5069
03:56.55BlackNetsee the funny in the graph here?
03:57.52kullervohttp://www.overclockers.com.au/pic.php?pic=images/newspics/30sep11/17.jpg
03:58.03BlackNetthe fire mage that went up top did more damage than my OT did
03:58.27BlackNetthe fuck
03:58.41kullervoyour BLs failed there
03:59.02BlackNetBL?
03:59.09kullervobloodlust?
03:59.11JunkHeadBody Lice
03:59.15BlackNetoh
04:00.21kullervoI'm going to bid over ten raid's worth of DKP on the t12 shoulder token if it happens to drop
04:00.24BlackNetnotice that white line drop early on == my damage to hatchling
04:00.40BlackNetany idea what this warrior is doing wrong?
04:01.27kullervonot using his abilities enough?
04:01.34BlackNeti have no idea
04:01.49BlackNetsee the spikes are not there. im doing 2x what he is
04:01.50kullervo7 shield slams
04:01.54kullervototal
04:01.59kullervowhat the *fuck*
04:02.10JunkHeadhaha
04:02.11JunkHeadwhat?
04:02.17blademeldwhen does brewfest end?
04:02.17JunkHead7 shield slams in how long of a fight?
04:02.19BlackNeti told them im going to pull out my scrub gear set and use that and still kill my hatchling before he does.
04:02.31blademeldwhen does kullervo stop putting his penis in any hole he finds?
04:02.31BlackNetthursday
04:02.40BlackNetthis week thursday the 6th
04:02.42kullervo8:16? woah terrible
04:03.06kullervothe warrior uses shield slam less than once per minute
04:03.13JunkHeadhaha
04:03.21blademeldso brewfest ends Thursday and kullervo stops sticking his penis in any place this Thursday the 6th
04:03.32blademeldkullervo: that's more than my Death Knight
04:03.55kullervoblademeld: I have already switched my title to "the Undying", if you know what I mean
04:04.58blademeldoh god kullervo, you have an infinite erection now?
04:05.30kullervoBlackNet: sorry, 10 times, still, that's terrible
04:05.42blademeldMr_Rabies: http://www.mangareader.net/boku-to-kanojo-no-renai-mokuroku/1/8
04:05.48JunkHeadShield Slam cooldown is 6 sec.:P
04:05.52blademeldNot safe for work
04:05.55blademeldunless
04:05.57blademeld....
04:06.10kullervoJunkHead: I have figured that from the damage other warriors deal with it
04:06.12BlackNettalking to a warrior i know in vent about it now. cept he's not done alysrazor as tank
04:06.26kullervohow can melee be his #1 source of damage
04:06.39blademeldhe's sexy that way
04:07.12BlackNetsexy? only if he's the cover model for scrubs united
04:08.11kullervo70% active time
04:08.25kullervoso for nearly third of the fight he's not pushing any buttons
04:08.37BlackNet79% for me
04:08.51BlackNetbut then to tornado's and half phase 1 my add is dead
04:09.13kullervoyou can continue nuking the bird during tornados
04:09.29BlackNeti was on his bird
04:09.58BlackNeti hae said numerous time, how embarassing it is to get mine down so fast and have to do shit like bubble in tornado's while nuking his bird
04:10.19kullervowhy... do you bubble?
04:10.30kullervojust dance around the bird so you avoid the tornados
04:10.40BlackNethelps
04:10.46blademeldbecause bubble
04:10.58BlackNetonly do that when his add is up
04:11.59kullervoever use bubble + hand of sacrifice?
04:12.00BlackNethe got the trinket off rag tonight. i msg'd him and said now your dps can pick up greatly on alysrazor, see to it that it happens
04:12.14BlackNetdont think i have
04:12.22kullervoyou should
04:12.45kullervothat's usually a free ~200k absorb
04:13.35kullervoassuming there's even a remote chance the other tank takes over 600k damage post mitigation
04:13.45kullervoduring the bubble D:
04:14.00BlackNetso i bubble and do hand of sac on me or other tank?
04:14.08kullervothe other tank, you can't cast it on yourself
04:14.18BlackNetk will look into that
04:14.37kullervoa healer once used sacrifice on me at Baleroc
04:14.40kullervoguess what happened
04:14.47BlackNetdied?
04:14.58kullervoturns that absorb works pretty much the same way as the Stay of Execution bubble
04:15.07BlackNetLOL
04:15.14BlackNetthey HATE when i use stay on that fight.
04:15.26kullervoyes, the poor paladin did take like 300k damage
04:15.27BlackNetoh i did a LOH durring that fight once, 1.5 million
04:15.34BlackNetthat's funny
04:16.06kullervoBlackNet: just for fun, compare mine and the #2 paladin's stats on baleroc25n
04:16.19BlackNeturl?
04:16.21kullervohe had 2t12 retri and probably singletarget glyphs etc
04:16.29kullervoI had aoe glyphs D:
04:17.04kullervohttp://worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-w16tz99axo3544d4/details/0/?s=3848&e=4064
04:17.08kullervohttp://worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-cdi2io13r3bh3q42/details/0/?s=1088&e=1303
04:17.59kullervothe other tank failed his rotation, guessing from the SoR damage
04:18.22BlackNeti am so not looking forward to doing the 25m run tomorrow.
04:18.35BlackNetdo you absolutely need 2 tanks for that?
04:19.06kullervolol no
04:19.20kullervoI've solo tanked it for months
04:19.27BlackNetgood
04:19.36BlackNeti dont really trust this OT that well.
04:19.47kullervojust make sure to not have any extra stamina on you
04:19.58BlackNetthe warrior i know in vent just told me he was doing bwd with him and ppl were pulling threat off him when he had nef
04:20.10kullervololol
04:20.20BlackNetin the past week
04:20.35kullervothat player sucks, find someone new and gkick that guy
04:20.43kullervono getting around it
04:20.51BlackNetdont know how many tanks i have seen fail on that fight, i have had to do a hand off on pull for many
04:21.01BlackNetyea really
04:21.10BlackNetcant find many good tanks on this realm
04:21.23kullervoit doesn't take much to notice "this ability deals a lot of damage, better use it often"
04:21.36BlackNethonestly its knowing your class.
04:22.08BlackNetif we were talking about numbers and uber technical details that coders or extremers were using then that's a whole new ball game
04:22.36kullervoyou should see my guild's irc channel sometime
04:23.07BlackNettheorycrafting stuff, thats a whole new ball game
04:23.21kullervo"and from these simulations we can conclude that reforges between X and Y don't matter at all, it just comes down to doing them in a somewhat intelligent manner and playing well"
04:23.24BlackNetim wondering what setup he's using for his rotation
04:23.52kullervosomeone actually said that
04:24.03BlackNetreforgings gives you that extra little bit of tinking feel but you can seriously do it in blue's :)
04:25.07kullervohmh.. I just realised, the first time ever I actually used my dps set in a raid I ranked #1
04:25.12kullervoterrifying
04:25.34BlackNeti told the group im going to put my RET set on and my shield and sword for alysrazor this week :)
04:25.45kullervono don't use your ret set
04:25.48BlackNethell i could prob do it in full ret gear
04:26.07kullervohitcap, as much expertise as possible
04:26.12BlackNeti like a challange but i hate having to drag people thru content
04:26.22kullervoI'm not sure if your HEALERS like the challenge
04:26.34BlackNetthey said NOOOOOO
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04:26.56kullervothough this week on balrog, the shaman whose turn it was in the end was going "FFFFF ARE YOU SERIOUSLY AVOIDING ALL OF THE DECIMATES?"
04:27.35BlackNetwe are getting a 25m group for tomorrow together.
04:27.38kullervoBlackNet: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/defias-brotherhood/vji/advanced
04:27.50kullervorainbow gems \o/
04:27.58BlackNetso far it looks like i can single tank most things and use the OT on some like beth, shannox and alysrazor
04:28.15kullervo... ragnaros, perhaps?
04:28.25BlackNetye arag to
04:28.29BlackNeter yea rag to,
04:28.39BlackNetbut i dont think we are planning on attempting rag
04:28.47kullervoit's faceroll now
04:28.59BlackNethonestly its prob going to be a derp fest and they will only get shannox down
04:29.08kullervoanyway that set, notice I'm very close to being hitcapped and have plenty of expertise
04:29.13BlackNetwill have to come back wed with the 10m group and finish up
04:29.22BlackNetyou see my set? :)
04:29.28janei wish i could pug a firelands raid, period..
04:29.32BlackNetLOL same as what im using
04:29.49BlackNetshit, i logged out in my ctc set
04:29.51kullervojane: I just.. "Pugged" it earlier, with a 4/7h guild
04:29.58BlackNeti use the same trinkets you are using
04:29.58janesigh :)
04:30.03BlackNethttp://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/arygos/blacknet/advanced
04:30.05BlackNetctc set
04:30.19kullervo160k unbuffed D:
04:30.33kullervoyou would've been instagibbed by HC Shannox
04:30.35janei need to get off my server then..apparently we are a new player server again
04:30.40BlackNeti am shooting for hard expertise cap
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04:31.01janebut i feel like people aren't so stupid given the stupidity i'm seeing just running direbrew
04:31.04kullervoyeah it's probably the stat with the highest dps gain until you're capped
04:31.51BlackNetim 8% hit, 40some expertise, very veyr close to block cap
04:32.00BlackNetand i give the dps a run for their money
04:32.02kullervowhat, in dps gear?
04:32.06BlackNettank gear
04:32.21kullervofull tank gear and you're both hit, exp and block capped?
04:32.30BlackNetthe same 2 trinks you are using and like a ring or something i swap
04:32.45BlackNethit, almost hard expertise and close to block cap
04:32.57BlackNetwith buff's mind you
04:33.19kullervohttp://worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-qehr8xaun2w7yffu/sum/damageDone/?s=9550&e=9806
04:33.30kullervoI experimented with a dps set there
04:33.32BlackNethonestly i like the feel better with my threat set than my ctc set
04:33.46BlackNet:)
04:33.48kullervooh I do too, except when the boss starts hurting
04:34.08kullervoI'd rank #2 if I could keep up that dps for the whole fight
04:34.11BlackNetyea i put my ctc set on because we 2h rag tonight.
04:34.40kullervomy warrior OT sucks too
04:34.57kullervowhenever I was on the spark the fragments would be running around killing everyone
04:35.02BlackNetwe have some dps that was marginally pulling above me when i did my special setup :) they hate it and it's sporty with me trying to out dps them
04:35.13Stormkittyhttp://i.imgur.com/PwDkt.jpg
04:35.37BlackNet:(
04:35.40kullervoStormkitty: hahaa indeed
04:35.49BlackNetoh hey
04:36.00BlackNetgoto wow-heroes and pull up your toon
04:36.06kullervothe weather's getting colder here so suddenly me and all my friends decided to Oc our machines again, all at once
04:36.44BlackNetfor me it shows #12 shannox, #38 baleroc, #64 majordomo, #157 cho'gall
04:37.32kullervo#1 baleroc25 #15 shannox25 #42 Twins10 etc etc
04:37.35kullervoI've ranked a ton
04:37.40BlackNeti dont really see this raid group doing heroic firelands much because of thing they are doing like my OT for example
04:37.45BlackNet:)
04:38.57BlackNetwe tried doing h chim in bwd the other day, could not get a good hand off for soaking double strikes.
04:39.24kullervolol it suggests fire resistance
04:39.27kullervofor cloak
04:39.28BlackNeti even brought up me soaking everything till the bot goes offline then we switch, the healers didn'tlike that much and we didnt do that
04:39.39BlackNetfire res?
04:39.56kullervouh erm
04:40.09kullervoHC chimaeron you're supposed to do exactly like you suggested
04:40.18BlackNetoh wow-heores i never look at for that stuff. i trust maintankadin over everyoen else
04:40.21kullervoone tank stays "fresh", eats double strikes
04:40.40kullervoduring feud he starts main tanking and eats the double strikes too
04:40.47kullervousing cooldowns
04:40.49BlackNetthey wanted one of us to soak double strikes and swap out after the offline mode
04:40.57kullervothen the other tank will start taking double strikes
04:40.58Mr_Rabiesblacknet, where is that info
04:41.01Mr_Rabies:o
04:41.04Mr_Rabiesthe rankings
04:41.07kullervoyou don't switch AFTER, you switch during it
04:41.10BlackNethalf way downthe page
04:41.34BlackNetall the times we tired it we both had stacks of break so we called it
04:41.40Mr_Rabiesdon't see it D:
04:41.51kullervoMr_Rabies: have you ranked? :)
04:41.55BlackNetMr_Rabies which toon?
04:41.59Mr_Rabiesnot sure if i have
04:42.03Mr_RabiesRaybeez@llane us
04:42.05BlackNetpull up my toon
04:42.09BlackNetus arygos blacknet
04:42.54Mr_Rabieshuh, guess i haven't
04:43.02BlackNetOHHHHHH
04:43.10BlackNetraidbots has this very cool wicked setup
04:43.11BlackNetlemme find it
04:43.35BlackNethttp://raidbots.com/epeenbot/us/arygos/blacknet/
04:43.38BlackNetthere ya go
04:44.08BlackNetshows % grading per boss
04:44.15BlackNetand progression over time
04:45.41Mr_Rabieslol i dced on shannox last week
04:45.43Mr_Rabies19%
04:46.00BlackNetthis tool is superb,
04:46.13BlackNetlets me see how much progress someone is making and which boss they are weak on
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04:46.23Mr_Rabiesand man, ragnaros really shows how shitty feral is on fights where you can't get behind them
04:46.24kullervolol @ alysrazor curves
04:46.41Mr_Rabiesi'm like 33% on rag
04:46.42BlackNetyup
04:46.52BlackNetkullervo you noticed that LOL
04:46.59Mr_Rabies~80% on everything else
04:47.14kullervoI see you've usually had the privilege of tanking the actual boss on Shannox
04:47.15BlackNetnow look at where you started off at and where you are now.
04:47.26kullervoI never get to do it
04:47.27BlackNetyup
04:47.35BlackNeti never get to stay down on beth tho :(
04:47.36kullervofirst time in full tank gear, zing 15th world ranking
04:47.37BlackNetthey wont let me
04:47.37janeis engrossed in all this chart porn
04:47.56BlackNetbut it's all good
04:48.01kullervoBlackNet: for me it's the other way around, I don't let the other tank go up
04:48.12kullervono matter, you get higher dps above anyway
04:48.31BlackNetand yes i do make mistakes often and all but i try my best to correct then.
04:48.32BlackNetthem
04:48.43Mr_Rabiesferal dps kinda sucks this expansion too so i'm happy with my results
04:49.00BlackNetferal is way op
04:49.14BlackNethad a cat do some insane numbers on halfus
04:49.16Mr_Rabieswe're 11th out of 12 dps specs
04:49.28Mr_Rabiesi think like, bm hunter is below us
04:49.44janei can do insane numbers when i don't have to keep brezzing and popping tranquility because my guild had fail healers
04:49.53janesighs
04:49.58BlackNet:(
04:50.00kullervoBlackNet: my first Alysrazor parse was the best I've ever had :P
04:50.03BlackNetyou need more broccoli
04:50.06janei don't think i've ever had a truly clean fight where shit doesn't go wrong
04:50.24janewe had lots of broccoli :p
04:50.29jane25m guild when we did raid
04:50.29BlackNetlol
04:50.42kullervobeen going down ever since
04:50.43janelike 2-3 broccoli, 2-3 trees, 1-2 cats, one bear
04:50.54BlackNetjane broccoli = resto druids
04:50.57janeoh fuck
04:51.02janelol
04:51.09Mr_Rabiesis there something like state of dps for 4.2?
04:51.13janei keep thinking otherwise given that you no longer shift into tree :(
04:51.14BlackNettree form looks liek a giant broccoli
04:51.15janeexcept as a cd
04:51.24janei keep forgetting i even have tree form
04:51.26janei is bad
04:51.35janeboomkin, broccoli, whatever :D
04:51.49BlackNetboomie = laser chicken
04:51.55janethe worst healer we had was a druid and i usually have first brez cause im a dps
04:52.01janeand also like the only dps that had it glyphed for 100%
04:52.59janeman i still miss raiding even with all the fail players
04:53.18janebut nobody is looking for a kitty and my gear sucks now cause i havent been raiding
04:53.32BlackNettonight we had a guy from one of the top raiding guilds on teh realm for our rag kill. he said it was the cleanest rag kill he has ever seen.
04:53.49Mr_Rabiesour rag kills are still messy as hell in meteor phase
04:54.13janethinks she would pay gold just to be part of a rag kill on normal at this point
04:54.22Mr_Rabieswe get him every time but we lose 2-5 people every time
04:54.30BlackNetthat was the best compliment we could have ever gotten. albiet late on the kill and it shoudl have been months ago
04:54.31Mr_Rabiesall during meteor phase
04:54.48Mr_Rabiesthe nerf didn't really change anything for us, it actually made it harder
04:54.58Mr_Rabiesbecause we're toeing the line for phase transitions constantly
04:55.12BlackNetmy strat for dealing with fail raiders is to teach them every little mechanic of the fight and it's like a pre-rehersed dance
04:55.13kullervo"stop dps!" - what's so hard about that?
04:55.15janespends her days bitching about 85s doing 3k dps on direbrew
04:55.33Mr_Rabieswe do, but when you've got dots ticking for 30k every few seconds, dps keeps rolling
04:55.48kullervothat's why you do it like 5% before
04:55.58BlackNetthey hate me doing that but it helps greatly most of the time
04:56.00janeor dps learn to time their dots better
04:56.20Mr_Rabiesthere's no real timing dots for kitties, either you keep dots rolling or your dps is terrible
04:56.29BlackNeti chewed out the team the other night because we said HOLD DPS, he was at 43%,
04:56.39janenot right before phase transitions
04:56.41BlackNethe was pushed and had seeds up and phase change at the same time
04:56.52BlackNeti was furious
04:57.10Mr_Rabieswell yeah but 5% can blow past way faster than the 15 seconds it takes for my dot to fall off
04:57.16janetrue
04:57.20Mr_Rabiesincluding everyone else's dots etc
04:57.35BlackNetsince then they have been very mindful of watching that % break
04:57.41Mr_Rabiesour MT is a DK too, and he's got dieases ticking away
04:57.49janei suppose
04:57.57Mr_Rabiesand aoe can splash over to rag if we get forced to the closer third of the platform
04:58.07BlackNetyea dots can push it so tonight our hunter was calling it at 45%
04:58.08Mr_Rabieswhen he had more health it was actually easier
04:58.11kullervohttp://raidbots.com/dpsbot/
04:58.16kullervoI wonder what that drop is
04:58.25kullervomany specs of many classes, but not all of them
04:58.35Mr_Rabieswell, i now have my ui frames showing percentage
04:58.41Mr_Rabiesalso i found a rad, rad addon
04:58.43janemy guild had so many problems just listening to rl that id just stop doing anything 5-10% before phase change
04:58.56Mr_Rabieshttp://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/candystripehealth.aspx
04:59.01Mr_Rabiesthis made my QoL so much better
04:59.25BlackNetthat's why i use world of logs, ensida fails, fraps and look see who it is
04:59.32BlackNetafter so many failed attempts i will call them out
04:59.42kullervoMr_Rabies: for some time I had an addon yell "Finish him!" when stuff went below execute range
04:59.56BlackNethate calling people out but it does yield results
04:59.59BlackNetat times
05:00.18Mr_Rabiesif calling someone out actually yields results they're probably awful
05:00.35Mr_Rabiesbecause they should either know and just made a mistake, or they're not aware enough to realize they're doing it
05:00.52BlackNetmaking mistakes is good and all, it's all a question of learning from them and moving on
05:01.02janesome people just don't learn ><
05:01.09kullervoa smart man learns from his mistakes
05:01.10BlackNetiuf they are doing the same mistakes and not learning from them then i have some serious issues with that
05:01.14kullervoa wise man learns from the mistakes of others
05:01.21Mr_Rabiesthat's what i'm saying
05:01.25janeand some raid leaders don't want to make them cry so they won't remove them from raid for continuously fucking the raid
05:01.35Mr_Rabiesif they don't realize they're making mistakes, calling them out probably isn't a solution there either
05:01.43Mr_Rabiesthe solution is probably replacing them
05:02.01BlackNetwell if i can find better then certaintly
05:02.01kullervoassuming you can replace them
05:02.27BlackNetlike this OT for example, we went 3 weeks looking for a good tank
05:02.42BlackNetgood tanks that's aggressive and proactive is very hard to find.
05:02.49Mr_Rabiesi've never believed in calling people out
05:02.54Mr_Rabiesour tanks are too aggressive and proactive
05:02.57BlackNeti hate doing it
05:03.04Mr_Rabiesour shannox trash clears are like 15 minutes now
05:03.10janei don't see anything wrong with like, whispering them about whatever they're doing wrong
05:03.30BlackNetanymore i chain pull trash in there
05:03.51Mr_Rabiesthis is beyond chain pull
05:03.56Mr_Rabiesthis is like, riding the line of wiping on trash
05:04.01Mr_Rabiesit's fun though
05:04.04BlackNetthen that's not proactive
05:04.11BlackNetthat's just highly aggressive
05:04.26Mr_Rabiesscorpions, hell hounds, core hounds all in one pull
05:04.54Mr_Rabieshell we've had a couple molten giant, hell hound, scorpion, flamewalker pulls
05:04.57BlackNetproactive is saying the hunter perfers this and the warlock needs this, so angle things so both can max things out and work from there.
05:05.03janepugs on my server wipe on fl trash with perfectly reasonable pulls :/
05:05.04BlackNetlol
05:05.24janeBlackNet: I KNOW oh my god why is it so hard to find good tanks
05:05.44BlackNetgood tanks are hard to find, esp on this realm i play on.
05:05.46Mr_Rabiesusually adds on molten giant comes from them forgetting i'm behind the mob and me getting blasted into a pack of something
05:06.14BlackNetwas talking to the main tank onthe top alliance raiding guilds team and he ran with us, he liked what i do and all
05:06.15Mr_Rabiesi try to position myself in a way i can backstab and not get booted but in the end i can only do so much
05:06.34BlackNeta good tank knows timing, distance and angle.
05:06.56BlackNetwill calc the fear range on fluffy and pull him to an area where you wont pull half the instance
05:06.57Mr_Rabiesthey're really good on bosses but they don't really worry on trash
05:07.12Mr_Rabieslike, the traps on shannox are always in such a neat perfect line, it's really a sight to behold
05:07.32BlackNeti can spell "UA" with shannox. ua = united alliance, guild name
05:07.52janeI want to raid with you guys kthx
05:07.55Mr_Rabiesthey max out their distance to prevent sep anx
05:08.02BlackNeti tell teh dps at times that farming bots can do better at interrupting and stuff :)
05:08.14Mr_Rabiespfft
05:08.18Mr_Rabiesinterrupting is a tank's job
05:08.25BlackNetnot when it's on alysrazor
05:08.28Mr_Rabiesoh
05:08.34Mr_Rabiesinterrupting is a shitty dps's job
05:08.37janemy old mt was a dick that couldn't build threat faster than i could *mid* fight. and was pretty much "stop pulling off me". on hardmodes.
05:08.42Mr_Rabiesat least post nerf :p
05:08.52Mr_Rabiesgood dps will drop him before one's needed
05:09.03Mr_Rabiesthat's why we're sending up 3 next week
05:09.19BlackNeti was telling them 1 interrupt and he's dead. they go oh no no no, we have to interrupt at least 4 times!
05:09.27BlackNetface palm
05:09.33Mr_Rabiesour dps are so geared that we can twoman the druids on alysra np
05:09.52BlackNeti jump on that add before the egg's are up and we race to see who gets the first interrupt
05:10.13Mr_Rabieslike, last week we spent like 30 seconds between each add just hanging out because we only sent up 1 as per usual
05:10.17blademeld..............
05:10.30blademeldI thought honor weapons were 371
05:10.33Mr_Rabiesthis week we sent up 2 and had 2 on one side, one on the other
05:10.35blademeldbut it's 359
05:10.39blademeldwhat I do now?
05:10.40blademeld:/
05:10.45Mr_Rabiesyeah, the weapons didn't change
05:10.50Mr_Rabieswhat do you mean, blademeld?
05:11.00blademeldwith the honor I got for weapons
05:11.24blademeldhttp://www.wowhead.com/profile=us.draktharon.lavinet
05:11.35blademeldI have 3450 honor
05:14.25blademeldwhat
05:14.28blademeldno suggestions?
05:14.29blademeld:/
05:17.28BlackNetlooking,
05:17.31BlackNetnot good with honor
05:19.57StormkittyI misread that as
05:19.58Stormkittyboner
05:20.12blademeldStormkitty: you have a boner?
05:21.07BlackNetwhat sucks is we are doing a 25m tomorrow, first ever. we dont have the 25m cauldron, just the 10m
05:21.17blademeldbuy one off the AH?
05:21.25BlackNetbuy what?
05:21.42BlackNetthe big cauldron of battle?
05:21.46blademeldyes?
05:21.49blademeldor mats
05:21.59BlackNetfarming the mats now actually
05:23.09BlackNet2632 / 3000
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05:23.58blademeldhello Gary.
05:25.23blademeldDjones_: what I get with 3450 honor help
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05:35.44SephirothCauldrons bind on pickup to the alchemist that craft them.
05:35.53blademeldmm
05:36.03BlackNetcorrect
05:41.40BlackNetwell nite all
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05:56.44StormkittySomething I just realised: World of Warcraft has more armour customisation than Oblivion or Skyrim.
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06:05.55blademeldStormkitty: WoW has more ______________ than <Other MMO>
06:06.39blademeldeven most talent trees, WoW having 10 well developed classes and all
06:08.08kullervohttp://kullervo.dy.fi/pub/drop/pic/Screenshot-2011-10-04_09.08.00.jpg
06:08.14kullervofor whatever reason, I laughed my ass off
06:08.14Stormkittyblademeld, except both Oblivion and skyrim
06:08.18Stormkittyare single person RPGs
06:08.35`viphahahaha kullervo
06:08.55StormkittyWoW has 16 slots. Oblivion has 7. Skyrim will have 5.
06:09.10kullervoalso this..
06:09.12Stormkittychan.jpg
06:09.14kullervohttp://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20111004.gif
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06:09.48Stormkittykuller: so fucking true
06:10.38kullervoI had seen that one before, but the science twist was absolutely priceless
06:10.50blademeldStormkitty: let me revise my sentence
06:10.59blademeldWOW has more ________________ than <Your mom>
06:11.12kullervodicks?
06:11.21Stormkittyassholes?
06:11.21blademeldkullervo: halp, http://www.wowhead.com/profile=us.draktharon.lavinet what I buy with 3450 honor?
06:11.36Binkensteinkullervo: depends on who's mom you're talking about
06:11.48blademeldBinkenstein: Stormkitty's
06:11.52blademeld>.>
06:11.53blademeld<.<
06:12.24kullervoblademeld: pvp trinket, bracers, head, then replace all the blue pvp items, then replace the rest of the pve items
06:12.33kullervoget the weapons ASAP
06:12.44blademeldkullervo: weapons first?
06:12.54kullervoyou probably can't buy them just yet
06:12.58blademeldI can
06:13.04Stormkittyblademeld: If the information I have on Skyrim is correct, Dragon Age 2 has more armour slots than Skyrim will.
06:13.05kullervothen go for them
06:13.06StormkittyDRAGON AGE 2
06:13.18StormkittyThat's just embarassing.
06:13.28blademeldkullervo: should I respec blood for PvP then?
06:13.37kullervonah frost or unholy
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06:13.50kullervono one gives a shit about blood DKs
06:14.26blademeldkullervo: 2h frost or dw frost or UH?
06:14.36kullervoDW frost imo
06:14.40blademeldmmm
06:14.49kullervoUH is pretty good too but the play style is vastly different
06:15.58blademeldhmm
06:16.01kullervoas a healer I'd be more worried about the unholy DK
06:16.22blademeldkullervo: what if I said all I do is BGs and 5 mans?
06:16.28blademeldno arena, no raids
06:16.32kullervowhatever you find fun
06:17.07blademelddoes the weapon make that much of a difference? I was thinking of replacing the bracer first
06:17.21blademeldI mean 353 weapon versus 346 bracer
06:17.50kullervothe weapon slots have the most resilience, and because of how weapon damage scales you'll find the ilvl difference to have a rather large impact on your damage
06:18.59kullervoafk for a few hours
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07:05.49StormkittySuppose I want to sell a game Steam code: where would be the best place to do that?
07:19.19Lothrikhard to say
07:19.52Lothrikonly site I can think of specifically is gog.com.. but they don't exactly have a format setup specifically for that
07:20.43Lothrikhmm
07:20.46Lothrikd2jsp.org maybe
07:24.41hyljeforum gold
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08:09.57Ceiparehello
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10:26.18Ceipareis the sw:tor beta running?
10:26.44Stormkittyhttp://www.yooouuutuuube.com/v/?width=192&height=120&yt=03-L-cCZvVI&flux=1&direction=rand I accidentally YouTube.
10:33.30Demetrious"Chaos Orbs are no longer soulbound!" -- http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3280532927?page=1#1  - Simply awesome.
10:33.45DemetriousUpcoming patch, of course.
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12:04.16tatemorning
12:08.34DemetriousGood morning.
12:18.10Chosifuck you wow.
12:18.31Chosilogging from rogue to healer for the daily keg, has dagger in it. FML
12:21.17JunkHeadHey
12:21.26JunkHeadYou can start questing in hellfire at 58 right?
12:21.39JunkHeadBeen a while since I came to Hellfire at 58.
12:27.37StormkittySo the way my bank keeps flogging this new website they're gonna have, I gotta admit, I'm actually curious to see what it'll be like
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12:43.00Sephiroth<JunkHead> Hey
12:43.00Sephiroth<JunkHead> You can start questing in hellfire at 58 right?
12:43.00Sephiroth<JunkHead> Been a while since I came to Hellfire at 58. <- Yes you can.
12:47.50StormkittyThis is my new favourite phrase. "Possible in the "this is nearly impossible" way"
12:50.27tateoh lol
12:50.33tategot my second ram from direbrew ._.
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13:02.40rosemounthas solved the first 3 math exercises successfully and is looking forward to study more from his first semester's materials.
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13:06.18rosemountDecide whether the following is a statement: There are infinitely many even prime numbers.
13:06.24rosemount. . .
13:07.03BlackNetwas it stated?
13:07.11rosemountnods.
13:07.29rosemountThe statement is wrong, though. :D
13:08.05BlackNetfact that it was stated makes it a statment by definition no?
13:08.06BlackNet:)
13:08.19rosemountHaha.
13:08.26rosemountHow about this?
13:08.32rosemount(a+b)²
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13:09.34rosemountSigh.
13:09.43rosemountI should stop trusting my gut feelings.
13:10.14rosemountI feel and know that (a+b)² is not a statement, even though I cannot describe or explain why.
13:10.57rosemount(a+b)² = 0 is a statement, but one operation on its own does not suffice.
13:12.47rosemountBetter explanation: true/false cannot be applied to (a+b)², but I am still stumbling over how to explain why it cannot be applied.
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13:21.52rosemountIs it bad that I'm using an uncommon word from Latin (applicare) in answering the questions? :(
13:21.55Owkkurirosemount: maybe looking into expressions vs statements will clear the confusion
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13:32.05rosemountHOOORAY
13:32.11rosemountMy answers were correct
13:33.06Owkkuricongrats
13:33.07Owkkuri:)
13:33.48rosemountthanksies
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14:07.26Ackisninja links http://www.reddit.com/r/Pets/comments/l091e/new_hermit_crab_owners_are_we_doing_it_right/
14:07.33Ackisdoesn't know why he wasn't in the channel.
14:07.36Ackisblames fewyn
14:13.59ex0adoes the ptr go down on tuesdays when everything else does?
14:14.34BlackNetprobably
14:15.05BlackNetcan log in but it shows 2 arena realms are up only
14:15.32ex0ai haven't downloaded the PTR client yet
14:15.43ex0agoing to once the sites are back up so i can login
14:15.54ex0ai've been meaning to for a while now but just never got around to it
14:15.55TikiPriestcheat and do it the easy way
14:16.15ex0ahow's that?
14:16.16TikiPriestsomeone linked a post about not having to download the whole thing
14:16.22TikiPriestsee if i can find it
14:16.24ex0akk
14:18.19zinedjust copy all your existing .MPQ files from your original installation to the PTR installation, you'll just have to download like the remaining 2GB or something
14:18.27zined@ex0a
14:18.31ex0aahh nice
14:18.35ex0awill definately do that
14:18.51TikiPriestah yeah, i was in fedora so not in my history
14:19.13zinedex0a: disabling P2P traffic also enhanced download speed for a lot of people, ushould try it too
14:19.27TikiPriestalso, i havent seen the ptr keep the same maint sched as live
14:19.38TikiPriestzined is correct
14:19.50TikiPriestsince p2p uses your upload it slows you down
14:20.23ex0ais it possible to modify a copy of my regular installation to initiate the PTR download or would i have to download the installer for it to pull from the right repo?
14:20.37TikiPriestyou have to download the installer
14:20.40TikiPriestlet it update
14:20.42ex0athat's what i figured
14:20.44TikiPriestthen copy the mpq files
14:20.57zinedbut in general, PTR is of no interest atm. only that one instance is open and you can clear all in a "we've never played that premades and still first try 100%" run :)
14:21.10TikiPriestpre mades?
14:21.13TikiPriesti use mine :(
14:21.25zinedyeah, as i'm an EU guy, i couldn't move my chars, only premades :/
14:21.27TikiPriestand its up atm im on the server brill
14:21.32ex0ayeah i was going to pull my current character
14:21.41TikiPriestim in the us but play on the eu servers haha
14:21.54ex0ais there a legit mirror of the ptr download client or will i have to wait?
14:22.18zinedex0a: just open your regular launcher and check the menu, there should be a pointer to the PTR download. just use that one
14:22.24TikiPriest^
14:22.33ex0ai can't get to the site since blizz is down
14:22.41TikiPriesthmm
14:22.43TikiPriesti could
14:22.50ex0amaybe cause of eu client?\
14:22.51TikiPriestoh crap i deleted it
14:23.04ex0aThe Blizzard family of websites is currently undergoing maintenance to improve your browsing experience. Thank you for your patience!
14:23.08TikiPriesti had the us and eu clients i coulda uploaded them
14:23.09ex0athat's all i get to :|
14:23.20TikiPriestbut i deleted them :/
14:23.30TikiPriestlet me check my file server
14:23.36ex0akk ty
14:24.12TikiPriestgah nope, i cleaned that up too
14:24.49ex0ai looked earlier for a mirror but all i could find was for 3.3.x stuff which is out of the question
14:34.08TikiPriestis the count down in pvp sound new?
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14:54.51junglepaynehi
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14:56.16EllendwayHey
14:56.27JuippisaLo
14:57.30TikiPriestwhen your priest healer in a bg has twice your resil, and non premade, AND 20k more hp, dont call him a noob
14:57.50Juippisunless he's a noob
14:57.55Juippisgear doesn't equal skills
14:57.56Juippisnoob
14:58.07BlackNetalso with good gear you can still die to stupid shit,
14:58.33TikiPriestJuippis seriously, why must you tear out my heart every day
14:58.39BlackNeti.e. a broccoli in our raid group didnt' move on h magmaw this weekend, she is 378 ilevel and she die in like 2 seconds when the nasty shit came up
14:58.47Juippiswhat :D
14:58.55Juippisthis is the first time I've spoken in here like for weeks
14:59.11JuippisBlackNet: lol broccoli
14:59.18BlackNet:)
14:59.32TikiPriesti know, dont mind me
14:59.33BlackNeti was like oh healer down
15:00.00BlackNetwent from human form, broccoli, fire column, dead
15:00.07junglepaynewhats server u guys on?
15:00.13TikiPriestBlackNet yeah, but see, i didnt die, i didnt top them off when they went running after some dude that outgeared/skilled them by loads
15:03.43BlackNetso you let them die for your honor, how noble
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15:08.03TikiPriestthey didnt die, i sat there and used a whole mana pool just to keep them up, they just thought i shoulda topped them off before they ran in
15:08.38EllendwayAnyone got contact on Alayton?
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15:15.42JuippisTikiPriest: you meed idiots on every random BG you do, don't worry about them
15:15.52Juippismeet *
15:15.58TikiPriestyeah im used to it
15:16.06TikiPriestso many on zuljin its not even funny
15:16.17Juippisweren't you on al'akir
15:16.23TikiPriestnope
15:16.41Juippisoh yea I think there was someone called BloodPriest in here
15:16.42TikiPriesti was on Zil'Jin > Galakrond > Zul'Jin
15:17.03TikiPriests/Zil'Jin/Zul'Jin
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15:34.27TikiPriestServer restart in 1.. You have been disconnected
15:35.11BlackNetstill down here.
15:35.58TikiPriestBrill EU?
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15:39.34BlackNetus realm
15:40.24BlackNetoh! coming back up now
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15:41.27TikiPriestyeah
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15:50.28BlackNetis hydraxis new?
15:50.49BlackNetand vashj
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16:08.06Ceiparegot the us realms a new server?
16:08.21BlackNethave 2 listed as 'new players'
16:08.28Ceipareah, okay
16:08.34BlackNetso assuming so
16:08.36BlackNetor newish
16:08.38hyljecheck wowpedia
16:08.39Ceiparethat normal in german realms
16:09.04Ceipareallways 2 are listetd, 1 pvp/ 1 pve
16:09.09BlackNetwhat to do with 32 stacks of obsidum ore
16:09.15hyljesell
16:09.26BlackNetprospect, sell ore or make bars
16:09.30TikiPriestsell or prospect
16:09.43TikiPriestobs bars sell well on my realm
16:09.44Ceiparecheck ah prices
16:09.48BlackNetsame here
16:09.57BlackNetmore per bar than raw ore
16:10.01BlackNetbut dunno about prospecting
16:10.09TikiPriestmeh id sell the bars
16:10.16BlackNetand i send this to the guild jc she is going to be mad at me lol
16:10.53BlackNethttp://theunderminejournal.com/item.php?realm=A-Arygos&item=53038
16:11.28BlackNethttp://theunderminejournal.com/item.php?realm=A-Arygos&item=54849
16:13.06BlackNetshows ore more than bars
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16:24.18BlackNetyea the jc is going to hate me.
16:24.29BlackNetsent her all of the ore
16:25.07BlackNetwas like 4 emails worth
16:25.13TikiPriestlol
16:26.09BlackNetyou should see the guild bank after i got finished with it
16:26.15BlackNetthere's no room on it
16:26.26rosemountgood lord
16:26.29rosemountI just swayed
16:26.31BlackNetwe are busting ass to finish up the 386 flasks for the big cauldron for 25m
16:26.33rosemountand felt so very dizzy
16:28.13TikiPriestonly mod that I see has been updated so far is DBM core
16:28.44BlackNeti use bigwigs
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16:35.29TikiPriestI wonder if I can solo bwl
16:35.38BlackNetNO
16:35.47BlackNetthe first boss you need at least 2
16:35.54TikiPriestbah
16:35.55BlackNetfor the dog it helps to have 3ish
16:36.03BlackNeti didn't get bwl last week :(*
16:36.04TikiPriestchromag?
16:36.17BlackNetyup
16:36.31TikiPriestsucky, i wanted to get some of the pali t2
16:36.40BlackNetif you have enough hourglass sand you could potentially solo him easily
16:36.43BlackNetand the right class
16:36.50BlackNetor can clense that shit
16:37.10TikiPriestthat and take the priest through for t2 as well
16:37.23TikiPriesti think my druid might still have his 7/8 from vanilla
16:38.18BlackNetim not sure but will changing forms remove that crap?
16:38.42TikiPriestlike human > cat?
16:39.10BlackNetyes
16:39.10TikiPriestit does remove the looks in forms, then you get it back when back in human form
16:39.16BlackNeti know i can bubble that off
16:39.29TikiPriestohh nm
16:39.37TikiPriesti was thinking trans,
16:39.45TikiPriesti think ones a poison
16:39.49TikiPriestanother a curse
16:39.52TikiPriestand disease
16:39.56TikiPriestsomething like that
16:40.03BlackNetthe sand from the trash will purge 1
16:40.14BlackNetbut will form change purge the rest?
16:40.35TikiPriestdont think so
16:40.36BlackNetoh and the living bomb on the 2nd boss, may need help with that or some insane burst
16:40.43TikiPriestif so woulda been so easy to do in vanilla
16:41.14TikiPriestwe 3 manned it before, but i just sat back and did dps, didnt really need to ehal
16:41.15TikiPriestheal
16:41.37BlackNetdone it many times with 3
16:41.40BlackNetalso 2
16:44.02poeticdragonMy doggies are wrestlin' on camera
16:44.07TikiPriesttried to 2 man aq, got to the twins and couldnt get past them with just a priest/dk
16:44.39BlackNeti was able to solo aq on my paly
16:44.39AckisTikiPriest: why couldn't you?
16:44.40BlackNetbut not a full boss clear mind you
16:44.48AckisTikiPriest: I've duoed twins as disc priest/feral druid
16:44.49TikiPriestbecause it had been so long, we forgot about keeping them apart
16:44.58BlackNetseveral very stupid bosses in there
16:45.13BlackNeton the twins you can solo them, just group and nuke against the wall
16:45.22Ackisthey heal way to fast for that
16:45.28BlackNetdamage taken is less than healing done
16:45.39BlackNet:)
16:45.47BlackNetif damage taken is greater than healing done then they die
16:46.39BlackNetpain in the ass yes
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16:49.15BlackNetthe one where you need frost damage is the evil one
16:51.53rosemountThe evil-- the evil-- the evil--
16:52.12BlackNethave to do like 200 hits of frost damage to them
16:58.09poeticdragonAnd now they're being x-rated again
16:58.36BlackNet?
16:58.52poeticdragonMy dogs. Watching them on the live stream.
16:59.11BlackNetah
16:59.24rosemountThey're doing naughty stuff?
17:00.01poeticdragonYeah. Gryphon was licking Ghidora's boy bits.
17:00.28rosemounto.O
17:02.47poeticdragonAnd now Gryphon's runnin' around like crazy.
17:03.24poeticdragonI don't usually get to see Ghidora and Gryphon play (without chewing on Gojira together) so this is neat.
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17:26.57Ceiparewell, would be cool if blizz overhaul the other race models like the "fresh" ones
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17:32.08Ceiparebut that will come
17:32.17BlackNetmany things like that would be cool. but i doubt they would do that, to much work on their part
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17:39.41TikiPriestholy lord vs is expiesive
17:46.27kullervofunny how it's usually the girls who fail http://www.wowhead.com/achievement=5799
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17:48.47TikiPriestironic
17:50.31BlackNetthat one is the easiest to get ach yet so many fail on it
17:50.49BlackNetyou can run out, reset to
17:51.00kullervoand waste a good while doing that
17:51.12kullervoI got that in 10man when I was the raid leader
17:51.16kullervo"why are we doing this"
17:51.20kullervo"Because I tell you to"
18:02.23kullervoGODDAMN THREE OF THE WRONG SHOULDER TOKENS
18:07.48kullervoI've been saving DKP for them for over a month
18:10.06TikiPriesttrololol
18:10.42TikiPriestwish the pvp would come back up
18:13.01kullervohttp://www.worldoflogs.com/rankings/players/Firelands/Majordomo_Staghelm/25N/Protection_Paladin/
18:13.13kullervoshould've weared the full set instead of just going half the way :(
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18:39.26BlackNethmm
18:39.33BlackNetlooking at wol for my OT on rag last night
18:39.36BlackNet#1 attack, melee
18:39.46BlackNet20.7%
18:52.09fewyni have a new monitor now i have to go tweak my ui
18:52.16fewynbecause everything is off now
18:55.27Owkkuriwhat'd you get fewyn?
18:55.46fewyn23" monitor
18:55.54fewynhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009255&Tpk=s231hl
18:56.22Owkkurishiny
18:56.54Owkkurii have a http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824001386&Tpk=b2330
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20:08.47fewyni really wish we could search for specific items on the ah
20:08.51fewyni just want embersilk cloth
20:08.53fewynnot bolts
20:08.55fewynfuck you
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20:09.36fewynground control to major_tom
20:09.56major_tomCommencing countdown, engines on.
20:10.28major_tomAnyone using wowhead tooltips to display set items?
20:11.57major_tomThink I found a bug in tooltip javascript ...
20:14.10rosemountWhat kind of bug
20:14.47major_tomI have an item link that should have 5 setitems (5/5), but only 4/5 are displayed in the tooltip.
20:15.03major_tomSee here: http://decoded.de/wowhead.html
20:15.40major_tom5 item ids are listed in the 'ref' attribute ...
20:15.44rosemountrel="lvl=85&ench=4245&gems=68780:52207&pcs=70567:70318:70569:70570:70314"
20:16.07rosemountHmm
20:16.22major_tomYes, is there something wrong with my "rel" pattern?
20:16.26rosemounthttp://www.wowhead.com/item=70567
20:16.31rosemountThe missing item, handguards
20:16.42major_tomHm?
20:16.45rosemountthe last three digits are 568
20:16.52rosemountso 70568
20:17.10g0urrarosemount.. Ruthless Handguards
20:17.27g0urrathe shoulders are ruthless too
20:18.17major_tomThe ids are extracted from Blizzards's JSON API (tooltipParams) ...
20:18.37major_tomSo should be correct I'd guess.
20:19.00rosemountUh
20:19.13major_tom? ;)
20:19.22rosemountI am thinking
20:19.37major_tomAh sorry to interrupt you ;)
20:20.07rosemount(Tooltips and dev stuff are not my area of expertise; I'm not even a dev, but I like to meddle with it when I understand at least some stuff)
20:24.49major_tomOk, item ids are correct, just double checked them. They all belong to the same item set.
20:26.44major_tomSo, could this be a bug? ;)
20:27.51rosemountI guess.
20:28.00rosemountPerhaps report on the Wowhead Feedback forum?
20:28.14rosemountRight here? :) http://www.wowhead.com/forums?board=1
20:29.04major_tomHm, was hoping there was some kind of "workaround" to this ;) But a will file a bug report.
20:29.38rosemountHaha- I wish I could help with it but this is beyond me
20:30.49rosemountI even wonder why ruthless are being counted part of vicious sets...
20:31.38rosemountalright, thanks for the heads up, major_tom
20:33.10major_tomHm, although I'm not too optimistic that this will be fixed soon ;)
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21:08.04TheRealWikipediaUhmkay, so who is stealing my nick?
21:10.24Djones_Everyone.
21:10.32TheRealWikipediaThat sucks...
21:10.43Djones_yes.
21:11.00TheRealWikipediaYou're not convincing.
21:16.29TikiPriestTheRealSlimShady stole it
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21:23.03Freyja[The Wowhead Blog] Patch 4.3 - PTR Build 14791- Spell Changes, New Items, and More - http://www.wowheadnews.com/blog=195966/patch-4-3-ptr-build-14791-spell-changes-new-items-and-more
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21:45.15Stormkitty"John Carmack: Developing RAGE for consoles was a big mistake, future titles will put priority on PC hardware" why is it that the only developers who realise that consoles are worthless are the ones making FPSes
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22:09.19Freyja[The Wowhead Blog] 4.3 Patch Notes Updated - http://www.wowheadnews.com/blog=195967/4-3-patch-notes-updated
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