| 00:00.00 | Mr_Rabies | meters? |
| 00:00.08 | Gunrun | sorry that should be h |
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| 00:00.22 | Mr_Rabies | lol i'm jay kayin' ya |
| 00:00.28 | Mr_Rabies | LOOOOLROOOOOL |
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| 00:12.32 | BlackNet | yeaaaa |
| 00:12.34 | BlackNet | power is back on |
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| 00:14.54 | Moribund | w00t |
| 00:16.48 | XAnubisFSUX | what is the tukui edit for healers |
| 00:16.56 | XAnubisFSUX | with grid built in |
| 00:17.24 | BlackNet | it's /heal |
| 00:18.36 | XAnubisFSUX | no it was an actual edit |
| 00:19.15 | Gunrun | hey BlackNet |
| 00:19.19 | Gunrun | you make knives and shit |
| 00:19.54 | Moribund | BlackNet makes pretty things ^_^ |
| 00:22.29 | Gunrun | BlackNet |
| 00:22.40 | BlackNet | yup |
| 00:22.54 | Gunrun | do you think it would be possible to make a decent cutting blade with carbon fiber |
| 00:23.11 | BlackNet | as scale material yes |
| 00:23.18 | Gunrun | scale material? |
| 00:23.33 | Djane | the insides |
| 00:23.37 | BlackNet | handle material |
| 00:23.50 | Gunrun | so it'd still need to be edged with metal? |
| 00:24.04 | BlackNet | yes |
| 00:24.08 | Djane | No. |
| 00:24.11 | Djane | It doesn't have to be. |
| 00:24.14 | BlackNet | carbon fiber is a very weak substance unless backed by something |
| 00:24.19 | BlackNet | like a liner |
| 00:24.32 | Gunrun | and carbon nanotubes are too new for anyone to really guess how they'd be |
| 00:24.41 | BlackNet | uhm |
| 00:24.42 | Djane | Most carbon fiber blades have titanium cores. |
| 00:24.45 | Djane | But they're pretty effective. |
| 00:24.48 | BlackNet | carbon nanotubes is not a new thing |
| 00:25.28 | Gunrun | we can't even mass produce them though at least so they're linked |
| 00:25.40 | Djane | Carbon nanotubes are pretty damn new. |
| 00:26.07 | Djane | 1991 iirc |
| 00:26.22 | Djane | And certainly much newer in terms of commercial applications |
| 00:26.23 | BlackNet | discovery yes |
| 00:26.33 | BlackNet | but classic damascus steel had them in it from ancient times |
| 00:26.49 | Djane | There's a difference between an incidental manafacturing benefit in an old method |
| 00:26.56 | Djane | and an understanding and usage of the application of said thing. |
| 00:27.32 | Djane | There have also been x-rays since we invented glass, that didn't mean we knew what they were or how to use them. |
| 00:27.40 | Gunrun | well anyway |
| 00:27.51 | Gunrun | now I want a carbon fiber zweihander |
| 00:28.39 | Gunrun | and now I must sleep |
| 00:28.55 | BlackNet | the ore vein they made damascus from in the ancient days had natural carbon nanotubes in it. |
| 00:29.05 | BlackNet | carbon nanotubes and carbon fiber is not even remotely similar |
| 00:29.14 | Gunrun | alright |
| 00:29.40 | Gunrun | what I hear is if you could make long carbon nanotubes you could make extremely rigid, strong, but light structures |
| 00:29.51 | Gunrun | which seems ideal for a sword but then I know nothing about swords really |
| 00:30.45 | Moribund | iirc, cabon nanotubes are fairly brittle |
| 00:30.49 | Moribund | Which is bad for swords |
| 00:30.52 | BlackNet | swords need to be pliable |
| 00:31.06 | bladekitty | Djane: ? |
| 00:31.16 | bladekitty | I was out walking the dog |
| 00:31.55 | BlackNet | they are indeed brittle |
| 00:32.11 | Arkaen | I am so happyyyyyyy |
| 00:32.13 | BlackNet | but clumps in the material makes it much better |
| 00:32.27 | Arkaen | 700k damage lead in a BG, 6th most healing done, 15 KBs, 4 deaths, and 3 flag returns |
| 00:32.40 | bladekitty | Arkaen: rated BG? |
| 00:32.45 | Arkaen | Nah, just a random |
| 00:32.48 | bladekitty | oh |
| 00:32.49 | bladekitty | pfft |
| 00:32.52 | Arkaen | But still satisfying because I'm just starting WoW again |
| 00:32.57 | bladekitty | heh |
| 00:33.03 | Arkaen | With minimal pvp gear, and I just set up a new UI |
| 00:33.10 | Arkaen | (Got sick of Tukui so i made my own) |
| 00:33.29 | bladekitty | Arkaen: SS |
| 00:33.34 | bladekitty | the UI |
| 00:33.46 | BlackNet | screenshots? |
| 00:33.50 | bladekitty | yes |
| 00:34.03 | Arkaen | It doesn't look good, but okies |
| 00:34.22 | BlackNet | well most ui's are work in progress |
| 00:34.25 | Arkaen | http://i.imgur.com/vYrOA.jpg |
| 00:34.38 | Arkaen | I spent like 45 mins on it so far, so i think it's okay |
| 00:35.05 | Arkaen | But yeah I just went around spamming obliterate whenever healers were around |
| 00:35.11 | Arkaen | otherwise I spammed Death Strike |
| 00:35.19 | Arkaen | real fun |
| 00:35.30 | bladekitty | looks fine to me |
| 00:35.38 | bladekitty | except for the green blob on the mini-map |
| 00:35.57 | Arkaen | That's a buff check |
| 00:36.08 | Arkaen | Green = all available buffs up red = not that |
| 00:36.10 | Arkaen | brb |
| 00:36.16 | bladekitty | mm |
| 00:36.34 | fewyn | HRM |
| 00:38.51 | Arkaen | bladekitty, I forgot to set up raven before the bg too |
| 00:38.53 | Arkaen | which made me sad |
| 00:39.07 | BlackNet | Arkaen you see my screenshots? |
| 00:39.22 | Arkaen | of what |
| 00:39.35 | BlackNet | my ui |
| 00:39.38 | Arkaen | Haven't checked the channel much lately, since I haven't been playing |
| 00:39.41 | Arkaen | I don't think so |
| 00:39.44 | BlackNet | lemme pull it up |
| 00:39.47 | BlackNet | gimme a min |
| 00:40.12 | BlackNet | http://wetlands.simplyaquatics.com/v/wow/WoWScrnShot_050711_215203.jpg.html here |
| 00:40.46 | Arkaen | I support and love the fact that it's in ZA |
| 00:40.53 | Arkaen | cause ZA is one of my favorite things in WoW |
| 00:41.26 | Arkaen | I'm assuming it's a Tukui edit from the placement of everything |
| 00:41.34 | BlackNet | i have some major colorblidn issues in zg on the green stuff but it's not bad |
| 00:41.40 | BlackNet | yes. it's elvui |
| 00:41.47 | Arkaen | oo |
| 00:41.57 | Domh | One thing I really miss about old ZA. Music used to change a little while after you beat it, when the NPCs started to dance |
| 00:42.00 | Arkaen | I used an older elvui after I saw Miyari use it in a screenshot |
| 00:42.03 | Domh | I notice the new one doesn't do that |
| 00:43.28 | BlackNet | i have sounds and all that turned off |
| 00:43.51 | Freyja | [The Wowhead Blog] 4.2 PTR Patch Notes Updated (5/13) - http://www.wowheadnews.com/blog=189208/4-2-ptr-patch-notes-updated-5-13 |
| 00:43.56 | Arkaen | I listen to my music folder while I play |
| 00:44.13 | Arkaen | And I can't really sympathize, Domh, because I was never part of the guild group that got to finish ZA |
| 00:44.24 | Arkaen | because my guild didn't trust a 12 year old with doing it's progression raiding |
| 00:45.01 | Domh | Eh, could have gone and done it in Wrath or early cata :p |
| 00:45.08 | Arkaen | I did, but I never really stayed |
| 00:45.10 | Arkaen | I was like |
| 00:45.15 | Arkaen | "oh, cool. achievement." |
| 00:45.19 | Arkaen | and hearthed! |
| 00:46.10 | fewyn | All existing Valor Points in the Currency tab have been converted to Justice Points. |
| 00:59.01 | bladekitty | mm |
| 00:59.06 | bladekitty | denounce change |
| 00:59.08 | bladekitty | delicious |
| 00:59.24 | bladekitty | it's almost a must have PvP talent for holydins now |
| 01:00.51 | bladekitty | BlackNet: prot paladin nerf |
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| 01:01.21 | Domh | wat |
| 01:01.38 | bladekitty | buff to Eternal diamond though |
| 01:01.39 | Domh | After finally getting my paladin heroics ready they're planning to nerf it D: |
| 01:02.07 | bladekitty | Domh: yeah, holy shield will no longer increased damage blocked by 10%, it will now increase block chance by 5% |
| 01:02.11 | bladekitty | which is lol |
| 01:02.22 | bladekitty | Vanessa VanCleef (Heroic difficulty) now has a sweet, sweet voice to accompany her dialog. |
| 01:02.25 | bladekitty | LOL |
| 01:03.11 | Domh | I do like that note :) |
| 01:03.55 | fewyn | sigh there's like no copper on the ah |
| 01:03.58 | fewyn | and i have to farm it |
| 01:04.00 | fewyn | so annoying |
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| 01:04.20 | Domh | That is the entire reason I haven't made my pally a bs yet |
| 01:04.35 | fewyn | almost have enough |
| 01:04.42 | Domh | Cool |
| 01:04.42 | fewyn | it's just the point that i have to farm it :( |
| 01:04.50 | bladekitty | anyways, mastery will now reduce damage by 30% * 2.25 * 103% (Eternal meta) or about 70% of dodge before DR |
| 01:04.50 | fewyn | I DUN WANNA |
| 01:04.58 | bladekitty | fewyn: copper is so easy to farm |
| 01:04.59 | bladekitty | lol |
| 01:05.05 | Domh | Also how is it that friday night/evening and I'm the only one on, on an alt that's actually in the guild. |
| 01:05.09 | fewyn | also i bought the 346 jp helm |
| 01:05.17 | Domh | RL needs a pause button so I can get my guildies back D: |
| 01:05.21 | bladekitty | last I checked, mithril and thorium were the highest priced vanilla metals on Velen |
| 01:05.26 | fewyn | sorry i'm horde side and on my bank alt |
| 01:05.32 | fewyn | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/velen/souffl%C3%A9/advanced |
| 01:05.33 | bladekitty | ah |
| 01:05.34 | Domh | I know :p |
| 01:06.24 | bladekitty | fewyn: I assume you're using the 60 stam gem because they're cheaper? |
| 01:06.30 | fewyn | yeah |
| 01:06.33 | fewyn | and i don't know any better |
| 01:06.43 | fewyn | STAM SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD STAT YO |
| 01:06.59 | Domh | It is, but don't gem pure stam or I'll have to smack you :p |
| 01:06.59 | bladekitty | Mastery + stam in blue, Mastery in yellow and mastery + parry in red |
| 01:07.03 | fewyn | i like zee ache peez |
| 01:07.04 | kullervo | lol |
| 01:07.06 | bladekitty | it's fine for heroics |
| 01:07.10 | bladekitty | no one cares about 5 mans |
| 01:07.13 | kullervo | you have better stats than this new pala in my guild |
| 01:07.18 | kullervo | about 40k less HP though |
| 01:07.19 | fewyn | i am only using this guy for 5mans |
| 01:07.23 | BlackNet | thinking about upgrading my account so i can do remote guild chat on my phone |
| 01:07.38 | bladekitty | kullervo: kek |
| 01:07.38 | kullervo | oh and consider, he is mainspec tank |
| 01:07.50 | fewyn | i am main spec tank now on the warrior |
| 01:07.54 | fewyn | i'm only using him for CTA tho |
| 01:07.58 | bladekitty | kullervo: link the paladin? |
| 01:08.00 | fewyn | AND MAYBE RAID TANK IF NEEDED |
| 01:08.07 | fewyn | but i still need to l2play |
| 01:08.13 | kullervo | wait wait what |
| 01:08.14 | BlackNet | fewyn askmrrobot.com :) |
| 01:08.15 | kullervo | http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/defias-brotherhood/baragorn/advanced |
| 01:08.16 | Domh | I hear that |
| 01:08.19 | kullervo | he actually took my advice |
| 01:08.31 | fewyn | i'm open to advice |
| 01:08.39 | Domh | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/velen/Domha/advanced <-- also open to advice |
| 01:08.50 | kullervo | the gems are still fucked up and some reforging is missing |
| 01:08.54 | bladekitty | fewyn: char looks fine for now, just lol rend TC revenge spam on trash and you should be fine :P |
| 01:09.21 | fewyn | we seem to have a problem with tank shortage in our guild |
| 01:09.28 | kullervo | Domh: never ever go for damage stats unless it's a "for the lulz" 5-man set |
| 01:09.30 | fewyn | i blame claire's puppies |
| 01:09.51 | bladekitty | fewyn: I'll get my paladin on velen to 85 when i get my comp up and running, hopefully by the end of this weekend |
| 01:10.01 | bladekitty | the computer, not 85 |
| 01:10.04 | Domh | kullervo - define Damage Stat that I've gone for :< |
| 01:10.13 | kullervo | Domh: expertise |
| 01:10.20 | Domh | What? Really? |
| 01:10.22 | bladekitty | yes |
| 01:10.23 | Domh | Sonofa |
| 01:10.25 | BlackNet | fewyn here ya go. http://www.askmrrobot.com/wow/gear/usa/velen/souffl%C3%A9#v1-z1 |
| 01:10.26 | bladekitty | lol |
| 01:10.33 | fewyn | oh hey |
| 01:10.39 | fewyn | i didn't know askmrrobot could do that |
| 01:10.40 | Domh | The guides I've been following all told me to get exp capped (soft) |
| 01:10.47 | BlackNet | fewyn yup sure can |
| 01:10.51 | fewyn | DATS COOL |
| 01:10.57 | bladekitty | Domh: but threat doesn't matter |
| 01:11.00 | BlackNet | will help you with enchants, reforgins, gems |
| 01:11.03 | fewyn | it's like our stat weighting thing |
| 01:11.08 | fewyn | but kinda easier to understand |
| 01:11.11 | BlackNet | im suprised that wowhead profiler does not do that |
| 01:11.17 | fewyn | we do something like this |
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| 01:11.20 | fewyn | but it's kinda clunky :( |
| 01:11.23 | Domh | It doesn't? :/ I no longer understand tanking D: |
| 01:11.40 | BlackNet | also the profiler stat weights are grossly wrong now |
| 01:11.44 | bladekitty | BlackNet/fewyn: mr robot has mastery too low on preset, but you can manually change that |
| 01:12.00 | bladekitty | Domh: get initial threat lead, forget threat for rest of fight |
| 01:12.03 | BlackNet | bladekitty yes that was brought up on maintankadin and they explained why it was |
| 01:12.06 | bladekitty | unless gimmick fight |
| 01:12.19 | bladekitty | bladekitty: what was brought up? |
| 01:12.23 | bladekitty | err |
| 01:12.26 | bladekitty | BlackNet* |
| 01:12.39 | BlackNet | they basically said it's about right where dodge/parry is and why it's higher than mastery |
| 01:12.54 | BlackNet | bladekitty why dodge/parry is higher weight stat than mastery |
| 01:12.55 | fewyn | now this is cool |
| 01:12.56 | fewyn | i like this |
| 01:13.19 | bladekitty | BlackNet: yeah, net damage reduction over time blah blah, but mastery is superior for reducing healer mana drain |
| 01:13.46 | BlackNet | http://maintankadin.failsafedesign.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=31355&p=655782&hilit=askmrrobot#p655782 |
| 01:13.46 | BlackNet | here |
| 01:14.07 | kullervo | bladekitty: indeed, my healers always keep telling how I'm easier to keep up than the other tanks if it's a high damage fight |
| 01:14.09 | BlackNet | Mr. Robot accounts for diminishing returns, which is why the dodge/parry stat weights are so high. Those are the "base" stat weights before any DR is applied. Similarly with agility. |
| 01:14.20 | bladekitty | yes |
| 01:14.30 | bladekitty | DR will reduce the stats FAR further |
| 01:14.43 | bladekitty | either way, manual preset or GTFO |
| 01:14.52 | BlackNet | what few stats i have ran it seems DR is about 20-25% |
| 01:16.10 | fewyn | fucking bronze bars |
| 01:16.19 | fewyn | forgot i needed those |
| 01:16.22 | fewyn | NEED MORE COPPER |
| 01:16.41 | Stormkitty | So apparently if you can invent the Tricorder from Star Trek you win $10 million. |
| 01:17.16 | BlackNet | would take many fold higher than that to make a functional proto |
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| 01:17.47 | bladekitty | fewyn: I'd change blood craze + Impending victory + gag order to deep wounds unless you use gag order for pulling casters |
| 01:17.59 | bladekitty | gear wise, you're still gearing, so meh |
| 01:18.07 | bladekitty | min/max later |
| 01:18.16 | bladekitty | ghetto chants and gems for now |
| 01:18.29 | bladekitty | Domh: I'll look over your char later, brb 20-30 min |
| 01:18.34 | Domh | lol |
| 01:18.52 | Domh | It's not a priority anyway. I'm watching trade chat for pug raids to join on the shammy atm |
| 01:19.06 | Domh | thanks though :p |
| 01:21.00 | BlackNet | if it's not epic and good quality stuff then dont bother with the tinkering esp if you are active on that toon |
| 01:23.09 | Domh | Hmm |
| 01:23.34 | Domh | A BWD forming up but the leader is unguilded. I . . . think I'm gonna avoid that |
| 01:24.01 | BlackNet | why? |
| 01:24.12 | fewyn | because velen isn't a good realm |
| 01:24.18 | BlackNet | ah |
| 01:24.34 | Domh | I miss lightning's blade at times |
| 01:24.41 | Domh | I don't miss Hakkar though |
| 01:24.43 | fewyn | i miss illidan all the time |
| 01:25.09 | fewyn | everything was puggable on illidan back in wotlk |
| 01:25.25 | fewyn | lk pug kills all the time |
| 01:25.27 | BlackNet | by all rights you should be able to pug all the raid bosses now |
| 01:25.32 | Domh | Heh, Velen pugs did way better than Hakkar ones |
| 01:25.34 | fewyn | not on velen |
| 01:26.27 | BlackNet | arygos has fallen alot lately |
| 01:26.34 | kullervo | http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/defias-brotherhood/vji/advanced |
| 01:26.41 | kullervo | I switched to the signet of the elder council |
| 01:26.43 | BlackNet | use to be high pop now it's barely medium |
| 01:26.52 | kullervo | it gives more stats than the 346h I had earlier |
| 01:27.21 | BlackNet | kullervo lemme look |
| 01:27.23 | kullervo | 0.18% block and 0,04% more dodge, 575hp |
| 01:27.52 | kullervo | and some threat stats which I really didn't need but will enjoy having regardless |
| 01:28.02 | BlackNet | am using ring of battle anthem and permafrost signet of the rockslab |
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| 01:28.17 | kullervo | yes the one you got is better |
| 01:28.26 | BlackNet | my trinkey's sucks :( |
| 01:28.45 | kullervo | I also thought of getting Tia's Grace |
| 01:28.49 | BlackNet | may i make a recomendation? |
| 01:28.54 | BlackNet | swap to the dps legs |
| 01:28.55 | kullervo | it has more passive coverage than the Finger |
| 01:28.58 | kullervo | huh why? |
| 01:29.20 | BlackNet | dps legs has 228 mastery |
| 01:29.30 | BlackNet | you can reforge the hit to 75 dodge and have 113 hit after |
| 01:29.42 | BlackNet | toss 2x 40 mastery gems in there |
| 01:29.50 | BlackNet | more avoidance than the 'tank' legs |
| 01:30.03 | Domh | Interesting |
| 01:30.51 | BlackNet | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/arygos/blacknet/simple |
| 01:30.52 | kullervo | very |
| 01:31.00 | kullervo | but then I'll need another pair for my dps set >_> |
| 01:32.59 | BlackNet | 'tank legs': parry 137, dodge 188, mastery 91. 'dps legs': mastery 228, hit 113, dodge 75. |
| 01:33.27 | fewyn | what the hell velen no heavy stones? |
| 01:33.28 | Djane | Irrelevant comparison |
| 01:33.31 | Djane | You need to consider 4piece. |
| 01:33.35 | Djane | Which is mandatory for heroic raiding. |
| 01:33.53 | BlackNet | http://www.wowhead.com/compare?items=60347.0.3822.0.52219.52219.0.0.31.13;60357.0.3822.0.0.0.0.0.14.49&focus=0 |
| 01:33.54 | Djane | And then you're looking at helm+legs or shoulders+legs verses helm/shoulders+legs |
| 01:33.56 | BlackNet | there |
| 01:34.03 | Djane | Remaining incorrect. |
| 01:41.56 | BlackNet | The Al'Akir 359 legs give more mastery (thus more CTC) than the 372 Prot legs. |
| 01:42.16 | Djane | Also irrelevant./ |
| 01:42.19 | Djane | Since you need 4 set. |
| 01:42.38 | BlackNet | says who? |
| 01:43.16 | BlackNet | the 4p is crap for the most part esp with the changes recently |
| 01:43.23 | Djane | Herp durp no. |
| 01:43.36 | Djane | The 4piece is mandatory for anyone doing hardmodes. |
| 01:44.00 | BlackNet | 4p provide better overall damage reduction, going off tier yiels more CTC |
| 01:44.08 | BlackNet | situational |
| 01:44.12 | Djane | Not really. |
| 01:44.39 | Djane | Anyone who actually raids hard modes will know that the 4piece tier sets are incredibly well synergised with the mechanics of the hardmode fights |
| 01:44.53 | Domh | debates deleting his bank alt to make room for a warrior |
| 01:45.02 | Djane | The additional 6 seconds on GotAK provides immense coverage across almost all fight mechanics |
| 01:45.06 | Djane | Wheras the 12 second one does not. |
| 01:45.25 | Djane | Since you're in no danger of ever dying outside of specialist fight mechanics, the important part is maximising your survivability when you're actually in danger. |
| 01:45.38 | Djane | Which is why 4 set is mandatory, and additional CTC is irrelevant. |
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| 01:46.29 | BlackNet | so you are using double stams then i take it? |
| 01:46.46 | Djane | I use trinkets depending on the fight. |
| 01:47.03 | Djane | Hypothetically I'd use mirror on magic fights, with worm |
| 01:47.15 | bladekitty | Djane: irrelevant, in BlackNet's case, the legs won't make or break 4P, and he's not doing content that he's undergeared for, rather, his guildmates usually falter |
| 01:47.35 | Djane | bladekitty, he has now actually killed cho'gall |
| 01:47.44 | bladekitty | I know |
| 01:47.46 | Djane | Vial of stolen memories and darmoon card for heroic Chim |
| 01:47.55 | Djane | bladekitty, so he -could- get 4set optimally at that point. |
| 01:48.05 | Djane | For maloriak you're looking at double stam. |
| 01:48.27 | BlackNet | actually im going to test out some interesting stuff |
| 01:48.27 | bladekitty | Djane: again, legs won't make or break, and he could just get helm/shoulder/glove/chest over legs |
| 01:48.34 | bladekitty | in theory |
| 01:48.35 | BlackNet | am going to toss on my bad healer trinkey's for chim :) |
| 01:48.49 | BlackNet | the below 35% blah blah blah blah blah ones :) |
| 01:48.53 | Djane | bladekitty, the point is, taking mastery legs means he has to take an expertise helm or shoulders |
| 01:48.57 | BlackNet | chim should proc them like mad |
| 01:49.30 | Djane | He's replacing dodge with mastery but then sacrificing mastery for experticse elsewhere. |
| 01:49.32 | bladekitty | Djane: I'd have to look at the pieces to see which ones have the greatest net yield |
| 01:49.54 | Djane | bladekitty, well it's forcing you to take both the helm and the shoulder tier if you don't take legs |
| 01:49.57 | BlackNet | i posted the compare from wowhead |
| 01:50.00 | Djane | Which means you lose 200 mastery on the helm, ideally. |
| 01:50.10 | Djane | -ideally/+unavoidably. |
| 01:50.19 | bladekitty | also, I f*cking hate advanced armoury option |
| 01:50.21 | BlackNet | with the ease of vp's it's prob wise to get both and use them |
| 01:50.23 | bladekitty | it sucks |
| 01:50.32 | BlackNet | and i do have both legs |
| 01:50.35 | Djane | Also |
| 01:50.39 | Djane | BlackNet can't get tier helm |
| 01:50.47 | Djane | Since he's not going to kill nef. |
| 01:50.53 | BlackNet | :( |
| 01:50.54 | Djane | So basically, you replace an avoidance stat with a better avoidance stat, and then lose the best avoidance stat for a wasted stat |
| 01:51.13 | Djane | Wheras the BiS helm is off valiona and easily accessible. |
| 01:51.25 | BlackNet | yup |
| 01:51.55 | Djane | Conclusion. Blacknet is ignoring sensible advice and being bad again. |
| 01:52.10 | BlackNet | Djane i said i have both legs and several trinkey's |
| 01:52.25 | bladekitty | like I said yesterday, if legs make 4P, use it, if not, don't |
| 01:52.26 | Djane | You should be using tanking legs. |
| 01:52.33 | BlackNet | i dont have 4p |
| 01:52.41 | Djane | bladekitty, but he's explicitely advising people not to use tanking legs. |
| 01:52.52 | bladekitty | Djane: I already went over this yesterday |
| 01:52.59 | bladekitty | with exactly what I'm saying now |
| 01:53.08 | bladekitty | use legs if 4P |
| 01:53.19 | Djane | bladekitty, there's no reason it shouldn't be 4p if you can kill cho'gall. |
| 01:53.28 | BlackNet | kullervo you have 4p bonus yet? |
| 01:53.56 | bladekitty | Djane: are all tiers VP purchases now? |
| 01:53.59 | bladekitty | I forget |
| 01:54.14 | BlackNet | 2 items are tolken drops |
| 01:55.16 | Djane | bladekitty, no. You have to kill cho'gall for shoulders, and nef for helm |
| 01:55.20 | BlackNet | and no he's got 3p |
| 01:55.24 | bladekitty | then blame RNG and move on |
| 01:55.35 | bladekitty | no need to bicker over non-issues |
| 01:55.39 | Djane | bladekitty, if you take tanking legs and BiS helm from valiona, you lose 49 mastery, and gain 365 parry. |
| 01:55.45 | Djane | and lose 168 dodge |
| 01:55.59 | Djane | that's before reforging but i cba. |
| 01:56.10 | bladekitty | ~365-168 |
| 01:56.10 | infobot | 197 |
| 01:56.17 | bladekitty | that's more than enough |
| 01:56.19 | kullervo | BlackNet: nope, lost them all |
| 01:56.20 | BlackNet | reforging will not make up the difference and basically teh same anyways |
| 01:56.37 | kullervo | Djane: isn't the daybreaker helm from council |
| 01:56.44 | BlackNet | kullervo sucks. we have 2 kills in so far and nothing for paly's |
| 01:56.52 | kullervo | oh it's from twin drakes. |
| 01:56.53 | BlackNet | valonia |
| 01:56.55 | kullervo | My memory falters. |
| 01:57.03 | bladekitty | Domh: your character looks fine for it's progression status |
| 01:57.04 | BlackNet | same with the stam trink |
| 01:57.22 | fewyn | fuck you heavy stones |
| 01:57.25 | fewyn | fuck you in the asshole |
| 01:57.30 | fewyn | rawr |
| 01:57.50 | fewyn | i dun wanna farm more crap |
| 01:57.50 | bladekitty | fewyn's having fantasies of screwing minerals that are relatively great in mass |
| 01:58.16 | Djane | bladekitty, on reforging |
| 01:58.27 | Djane | 131mastery and 56 dodge verses 365 parry. |
| 01:58.27 | bladekitty | fewyn: miner/engineer is the best, empty bags, farm for hours, mail all to bank alt, continue |
| 01:58.34 | Noxy | ASSHOLE |
| 01:58.39 | Djane | you get a nice 220 hit though! |
| 01:58.39 | fewyn | NOXY |
| 01:58.41 | Noxy | jumps on fewyn |
| 01:59.04 | Noxy | I hate you. |
| 01:59.08 | Noxy | rips out fewyns hair |
| 01:59.09 | fewyn | WHAT DID I DO |
| 01:59.16 | bladekitty | Djane: for estimation purposes only, I consider mastery to be 2x avoidance stat value |
| 01:59.17 | fewyn | good thing i sport short hair |
| 01:59.19 | Noxy | YOU BOUGHT MY PONY |
| 01:59.23 | fewyn | SORRY |
| 01:59.25 | Noxy | claws at fewyns scalp |
| 01:59.27 | fewyn | did you have 75k? |
| 01:59.30 | Djane | bladekitty, err, more like 1.1 :p |
| 01:59.46 | Noxy | .. no ;; but you shoulda lent me 63k. |
| 01:59.51 | fewyn | lol |
| 01:59.56 | bladekitty | Djane: people whined at me a lot for not including the coverage factor |
| 01:59.57 | fewyn | sorry i broke my bank buying that pony |
| 02:00.00 | bladekitty | so, 2x it is |
| 02:00.00 | Noxy | nya |
| 02:00.02 | fewyn | i even borrowed 5k from nerkle |
| 02:00.10 | bladekitty | 262+56 < 365 though |
| 02:00.12 | bladekitty | in the end |
| 02:00.22 | Domh | bladekitty, thanks for the assessment. |
| 02:00.30 | Noxy | I'm still mad at Mike for denying me that pony. |
| 02:01.13 | Domh | Well fewyn has a tank now. Make him tank ICC for the shadowmourne quest to get it |
| 02:01.35 | fewyn | STILL LEARNING TO PLAY |
| 02:01.35 | Domh | proceeds to cause trouble |
| 02:01.44 | Domh | then goes to store for pop |
| 02:01.48 | fewyn | SODA |
| 02:01.50 | fewyn | NOT POP |
| 02:01.53 | fewyn | GET IT RIGHT MOFO |
| 02:02.17 | Domh | I don't correct your American English, you leave my Canadian English alone :P |
| 02:02.34 | Noxy | Silly canadians. |
| 02:02.34 | infinity | (Pop, not soda) |
| 02:02.43 | Noxy | ... poor Glar ): |
| 02:02.56 | bladekitty | British spelling with american-bastardized pronunciation |
| 02:03.03 | Inc` | lol |
| 02:03.05 | Noxy | Nick isnt listening to him, ignoring instructions. |
| 02:03.10 | Noxy | Oh |
| 02:03.11 | Noxy | My |
| 02:03.11 | bladekitty | holy shit |
| 02:03.12 | Noxy | God |
| 02:03.15 | bladekitty | Inc` is back |
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| 02:03.27 | Inc` | rawr |
| 02:03.27 | Noxy | Glar "Theres no time for crying in video games" |
| 02:03.28 | fewyn | bsing is such a pain |
| 02:03.31 | Noxy | BEST QUOTE |
| 02:03.33 | fewyn | WHO'S SMART IDEA WAS THIS? |
| 02:03.33 | Noxy | EVER |
| 02:03.46 | bladekitty | fewyn: why are you levelling BS? |
| 02:03.52 | Inc` | fewyn: Agreed |
| 02:03.59 | fewyn | BECAUSE IT SOUNDS WARRIORISH |
| 02:04.03 | fewyn | and gives me extra gem slots |
| 02:04.13 | Inc` | BS + JC = teh sex |
| 02:04.16 | fewyn | and we need a bs in the guild |
| 02:04.20 | bladekitty | ah |
| 02:04.24 | bladekitty | that reason I'll buy |
| 02:04.36 | bladekitty | though... my paladin is miner/BS on velen |
| 02:04.37 | bladekitty | :P |
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| 02:04.49 | bladekitty | now only if I can get my computer... |
| 02:04.51 | bladekitty | >.> |
| 02:05.01 | fewyn | yes but there is a slight problem with that |
| 02:05.04 | fewyn | you're not in our guild |
| 02:05.19 | bladekitty | that's because I'm not max level |
| 02:05.27 | bladekitty | and I was on trial game time 7 days |
| 02:05.27 | fewyn | pfft like that matters |
| 02:05.30 | fewyn | ah |
| 02:05.36 | fewyn | that would matter |
| 02:05.45 | Inc` | all i hear is excuses blade |
| 02:05.53 | bladekitty | I"M ALL EXCUSES |
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| 02:06.17 | bladekitty | Inc`: I think I'll exchange the 560Ti for a 6850 or a 6870 so I can crossfire later if I want |
| 02:06.45 | bladekitty | and 6850/6870 is cheaper... though it'll cost me more because of restocking fees |
| 02:07.00 | bladekitty | since the packing plastic is ruined |
| 02:07.14 | bladekitty | and they charge restocking fees by % |
| 02:07.15 | bladekitty | >.> |
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| 02:07.25 | Inc` | Ouch |
| 02:08.27 | bladekitty | I read from the benchmark tests that the difference between 6850 and 6870 is less than 0.5%, so I think I'll pick up 6850 which is cheaper, what do you think Inc`? |
| 02:08.47 | Inc` | I forget what the differences are |
| 02:09.04 | bladekitty | they're both DDR5 |
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| 02:09.08 | bladekitty | so I don't see much |
| 02:09.10 | bladekitty | really |
| 02:09.14 | Inc` | I haven't really kept up since I bought my 460s |
| 02:09.17 | bladekitty | heh |
| 02:09.29 | Inc` | Been eyeing the new intel chips though |
| 02:09.37 | bladekitty | :3 |
| 02:09.41 | Inc` | Probably will upgrade to ivy bridge when that comes out |
| 02:09.53 | Inc` | Not looking forward to rebuying all my ram though |
| 02:09.58 | BlackNet | cant wait till my new computer is up and operational |
| 02:10.00 | Inc` | Or a new mobo |
| 02:10.06 | bladekitty | Inc`: lol |
| 02:10.33 | Inc` | Seems that 6850 is the better value |
| 02:10.41 | bladekitty | yes |
| 02:10.47 | Inc` | Or that is what a quick google search would suggest |
| 02:10.54 | bladekitty | :o berserk manga is out |
| 02:10.59 | Inc` | lol |
| 02:11.02 | Inc` | that guy |
| 02:11.11 | bladekitty | THAT GUY IS EPIC |
| 02:11.16 | bladekitty | LOLIDOLMASTER |
| 02:11.55 | Inc` | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZ2GAlxdL0Y == win |
| 02:12.51 | bladekitty | lol, cliche long hair |
| 02:15.20 | Domh | Yeah, I was gonna do it. But I got lazy and distracted by 4.1 :p |
| 02:15.25 | Domh | oh wow |
| 02:15.32 | Domh | I'm not scrolled down :p |
| 02:15.38 | fewyn | lol |
| 02:15.38 | Domh | Ignore me! >_> |
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| 02:21.43 | fewyn | dodododo |
| 02:21.55 | fewyn | thank god i'm a dk with the mount speed talent |
| 02:22.04 | fewyn | i think i almost have enough heavy stones |
| 02:25.18 | bladekitty | ... I only farmed minerals |
| 02:25.23 | bladekitty | stones are dirt cheap |
| 02:25.24 | bladekitty | err |
| 02:25.27 | bladekitty | metals |
| 02:25.29 | bladekitty | not minerals |
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| 02:36.24 | Inc` | we require more vespene gas |
| 02:36.50 | Domh | In the rear with the gear |
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| 02:39.18 | kullervo | where do alliance ghosts spawn when they die in Orgrimmar? |
| 02:39.25 | fewyn | razor hill |
| 02:39.26 | fewyn | i think |
| 02:47.25 | rannmann | yeah |
| 02:50.46 | Stormkitty | http://i.imgur.com/XelKg.png spot the photobomb |
| 02:52.09 | fewyn | i wonder how well i would tank a heroic on my warrior at this gear level |
| 02:52.18 | Domh | fine |
| 02:52.39 | fewyn | spot the imgur loading slow problem |
| 02:52.45 | fewyn | stabs imgur |
| 02:52.53 | Domh | stabs fewyn |
| 02:53.06 | Domh | Oh, is that not just a thing we're doing now? |
| 02:53.14 | fewyn | THAT HURT |
| 02:53.31 | fewyn | I'M TELLING YOUR MOM ON YOU |
| 02:57.23 | Domh | I need to stop being nice. This Pug was advertised as a BoT. Got here to find out it's just BoT trash. Said I'd stick out a clear or two, but that's it. And . . . they're doing so bad this first clear might take all night :< |
| 02:57.40 | Domh | Need to learn to just up and ditch PuGs |
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| 03:23.35 | jonn | Domh: bot trash sucks |
| 03:23.36 | jonn | hardore |
| 03:23.55 | Domh | There's nothing I even needed in there on this char |
| 03:24.12 | Domh | Their CC was terrible too :< |
| 03:27.36 | jonn | meh |
| 03:27.38 | jonn | i just afk for trash |
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| 03:29.55 | fewyn | woo new shield |
| 03:30.00 | Stormkitty | What. the. fuck. http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/haxaq/ok_currentformer_hotel_employees_of_reddit_dont/c1tyxfp |
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| 03:35.31 | Inc` | grats fewyn |
| 03:38.01 | fewyn | the heoric shield from ptah in h oo |
| 03:40.40 | fewyn | tank bracers just dropped from the stupid alpha omega boss |
| 03:47.11 | bladekitty | fewyn: how much DPS are you doing on trash/bosses as tank? |
| 03:47.27 | fewyn | like 5.2k? |
| 03:47.32 | fewyn | iunno |
| 03:47.38 | fewyn | looks low |
| 03:47.43 | fewyn | but then again |
| 03:47.45 | fewyn | i'm rogue main |
| 03:48.13 | bladekitty | fewyn: Jewelcrafting: All cut gems now stacks up to 20. Oh my! <-- must be a good day for you |
| 03:48.23 | fewyn | yes it is |
| 03:48.25 | fewyn | hella good day |
| 03:48.32 | bladekitty | 5.2k isn't bad, that's like 15k TPS, which is more than enough |
| 03:48.33 | fewyn | will make managing my gem empire way easier |
| 03:49.10 | fewyn | one thing i like about being a warrior are the shields, the models are always pretty cool looking |
| 03:49.46 | bladekitty | yes |
| 03:49.50 | bladekitty | they are pretty awesome |
| 03:50.19 | bladekitty | warriors get to wear pretty much everything, and with TG, they can look even more bad-ass for kicks |
| 03:51.08 | bladekitty | huh |
| 03:51.14 | bladekitty | all the T12 models are out |
| 03:51.18 | bladekitty | interesting |
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| 04:08.52 | Freyja | [The Wowhead Blog] PST - Episode 29 - http://www.wowheadnews.com/blog=189204/pst-episode-29 |
| 04:09.09 | fewyn | and that was a successful heroic |
| 04:09.11 | fewyn | s'weet |
| 04:09.42 | fewyn | 88g and and inferno ruby |
| 04:13.23 | bladekitty | fewyn: grats and night |
| 04:28.58 | Mr_Rabies | hey fewyn |
| 04:29.07 | Mr_Rabies | can you kick my |work nick please :O |
| 04:31.47 | *** kick/#wowhead [Mr_Rabies|work!~Noxy2@rrcs-64-183-226-172.sw.biz.rr.com] by Noxy (derpasaurusrex) |
| 04:32.10 | Noxy | YOUREWELCOME |
| 04:32.38 | Noxy | night |
| 04:33.45 | Mr_Rabies | thank you noxy |
| 04:33.47 | Mr_Rabies | and goodnight |
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| 04:37.38 | exercisetime | hey |
| 04:37.43 | exercisetime | anyone here |
| 04:37.53 | fewyn | no |
| 04:38.25 | fewyn | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/velen/souffl%C3%A9/advanced |
| 04:39.21 | exercisetime | :( |
| 04:39.24 | exercisetime | i need a class recommendation |
| 04:39.28 | exercisetime | bored of my paladin |
| 04:40.27 | fewyn | derp knight |
| 04:40.39 | exercisetime | no |
| 04:40.42 | exercisetime | not melee preferabily |
| 04:41.03 | exercisetime | thinking mage or warlock |
| 04:41.08 | exercisetime | or rogue if melee |
| 04:41.12 | exercisetime | or hunter |
| 04:41.13 | exercisetime | damn it! |
| 04:41.40 | fewyn | warlock |
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| 04:41.59 | exercisetime | more fun than a mage you think? or hunter/ |
| 04:42.06 | fewyn | shrug |
| 04:42.11 | fewyn | i have 85 of all classes |
| 04:42.12 | fewyn | so |
| 04:42.18 | fewyn | i don't really have a good opinion |
| 04:42.33 | exercisetime | which is more fun though? :) |
| 04:42.35 | fewyn | out of all the ranged classes i like mage |
| 04:42.40 | exercisetime | hmm |
| 04:42.41 | exercisetime | i see |
| 04:42.45 | fewyn | melee is rogue |
| 04:42.47 | fewyn | i don't heal |
| 04:42.49 | fewyn | and warrior tank |
| 04:42.51 | exercisetime | but isn't it kinda boring |
| 04:42.57 | exercisetime | (mage) |
| 04:42.59 | exercisetime | same 3 spells over and over |
| 04:43.05 | fewyn | depends on the spec |
| 04:43.11 | exercisetime | true |
| 04:43.11 | fewyn | fire is complicated and more than 3 buttons |
| 04:43.15 | fewyn | arcane is 3 buttons |
| 04:43.21 | exercisetime | frost is a joke |
| 04:43.25 | exercisetime | ? :P |
| 04:43.27 | BlackNet | LOL |
| 04:43.33 | BlackNet | we are talking about mages right now in vent |
| 04:43.42 | BlackNet | i want a fire mage on our raid team for omnitron |
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| 04:44.43 | exercisetime | BlackNet: help me decide between a mage and a warlock |
| 04:44.44 | Okamikiba | So how about that Zin'Rokh |
| 04:45.27 | fewyn | fuck zin rokh |
| 04:45.35 | Okamikiba | further suggestions? |
| 04:45.55 | BlackNet | well |
| 04:46.01 | BlackNet | a mage is a warlock with training wheels |
| 04:46.08 | exercisetime | lol |
| 04:46.11 | exercisetime | i had a 80 warlock |
| 04:46.13 | exercisetime | back in...wotlk |
| 04:46.20 | exercisetime | did ICC with it a few times |
| 04:46.22 | exercisetime | but it was destro |
| 04:46.26 | exercisetime | so it was like..mage 1.1 |
| 04:46.28 | Okamikiba | have yet to fully level a mage... i find em boring and squishy |
| 04:46.28 | exercisetime | er mage 0.9 |
| 04:47.20 | exercisetime | mage it is i think |
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| 05:24.44 | exercisetime | hey fewyn what spec for leveling a mage |
| 05:25.21 | fewyn | frost |
| 05:25.23 | fewyn | hands down |
| 05:25.47 | exercisetime | isn't frost boring though |
| 05:25.53 | exercisetime | constantly frost bolt |
| 05:27.27 | exercisetime | now i need a nam |
| 05:27.27 | exercisetime | ehmm |
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