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| 00:37.56 | fewyn | looking for volunteers to create a horde orc on velen-us to sign my guild charter >)> |
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| 00:44.36 | Gary13579 | guild charters |
| 00:44.43 | Gary13579 | the most useless grind blizzard ever dreamt of |
| 00:44.56 | fewyn | i need a horde guild |
| 00:45.01 | fewyn | wtb bank |
| 00:45.27 | jonn | it sonly 5 now, Gary13579 |
| 00:46.03 | Gary13579 | if you could sign remotely I'd have no problem with it |
| 00:46.11 | Gary13579 | but running around the world begging for 5 signatures? |
| 00:46.13 | Gary13579 | fuck dat shit |
| 00:49.35 | Stormkitty | Russians are awesome: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zGjex6qDtM |
| 00:50.49 | jonn | i dont like the guild system tbh |
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| 00:59.50 | fewyn | 433 inferno inks |
| 01:06.42 | Mr_Rabies | yeahhhh gary i'm not really sure what their plan was |
| 01:07.02 | Mr_Rabies | my guess was "people will only make guilds if they already have an established group" |
| 01:07.14 | Mr_Rabies | instead you just have to run around begging for sigs |
| 01:09.18 | Mr_Rabies | http://i.imgur.com/Vgp8B.jpg |
| 01:09.20 | Mr_Rabies | haters gonna hate |
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| 01:13.54 | fewyn | troll druid forms are best forms |
| 01:15.49 | Izzmo | why does everyone think that? |
| 01:15.58 | Izzmo | I think warriors are one of the better looking sets |
| 01:15.58 | fewyn | because they are? |
| 01:16.04 | fewyn | no i mean |
| 01:16.06 | fewyn | druid forms |
| 01:16.17 | Izzmo | oooo, sorry |
| 01:16.42 | Izzmo | NE doesn't look bad either |
| 01:16.46 | Izzmo | since they redid them |
| 01:17.47 | Mr_Rabies | i like them all |
| 01:18.05 | Mr_Rabies | worgen bear is partybear |
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| 01:27.15 | tate | fuck you low lvl hunters |
| 01:27.17 | tate | >,> |
| 01:27.34 | tate | lvl 14 done 30k dmg on the whole wsg |
| 01:27.39 | tate | 39-1-120 |
| 01:27.52 | Djane | welcome to burst. |
| 01:27.59 | Djane | (also lolol if that death ruined wrecking ball) |
| 01:28.07 | fewyn | duck |
| 01:28.13 | fewyn | i made 43 dmf cards |
| 01:28.16 | fewyn | no complete deck :( |
| 01:28.32 | fewyn | closest was missing 1 card from volcano and 2 cards from hurricane |
| 01:28.34 | tate | oh nvm |
| 01:28.35 | tate | 43-3-135 |
| 01:28.38 | jonn | omnitron makes me rage |
| 01:28.58 | Djane | fewyn, odds on a complete deck with 43 cards are pretty low. |
| 01:29.05 | fewyn | i know |
| 01:29.08 | fewyn | but still |
| 01:29.11 | fewyn | A MAN CAN DREAM |
| 01:29.48 | tate | http://rofl.fi/huntard.png |
| 01:29.50 | tate | so great |
| 01:29.53 | fewyn | missing cards were cheap tho |
| 01:29.55 | fewyn | so i bought them |
| 01:30.16 | tate | atleast we won |
| 01:30.18 | fewyn | now to decide if i want to use them or not |
| 01:31.34 | Djane | fewyn, they'll be much less valuable once 4.2 |
| 01:31.38 | Djane | so i suggest yes. |
| 01:31.51 | fewyn | good thing i'm selling cards now then =p |
| 01:32.00 | fewyn | debating about which alts to give them to tho |
| 01:32.10 | tate | blaaaa |
| 01:32.14 | fewyn | oh fuck |
| 01:32.14 | Djane | err |
| 01:32.15 | Djane | I meant |
| 01:32.15 | fewyn | nevermind |
| 01:32.17 | Djane | i suggest sell. |
| 01:32.17 | fewyn | dmf is over |
| 01:32.30 | fewyn | mother fucker |
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| 01:32.33 | fewyn | i hate that thing |
| 01:34.47 | kullervo | tate: what level range? |
| 01:35.11 | tate | 10-14 |
| 01:35.15 | kullervo | k |
| 01:35.20 | tate | already linked a ss |
| 01:35.25 | tate | http://rofl.fi/huntard.png |
| 01:35.26 | tate | ;_; |
| 01:36.33 | kullervo | I saw that already |
| 01:36.38 | kullervo | it doesn't show the level range |
| 01:36.41 | tate | oh |
| 01:36.42 | tate | rite |
| 01:36.56 | tate | didn't remember i cropped that part |
| 01:37.08 | kullervo | no it's just not visible |
| 01:37.21 | tate | well if u see my lvl u know what lvl range it is |
| 01:37.24 | tate | most likely |
| 01:37.26 | kullervo | yeah |
| 01:37.35 | kullervo | well in the default UI anyway |
| 01:37.44 | kullervo | I only see levels in the tooltip |
| 01:39.11 | Mr_Rabies | you know what they say |
| 01:39.15 | Mr_Rabies | taters gonna tate |
| 01:39.16 | tate | i feel kinda old while using default ui while lvling up |
| 01:39.24 | tate | at max-lvl it's just not useful |
| 01:39.28 | tate | Mr_Rabies: ._. |
| 01:43.37 | jonn | they need to make battle rez's less shitty |
| 01:43.38 | jonn | esp dk's |
| 01:43.58 | kullervo | lol |
| 01:44.05 | jonn | you need more health or a short shield or something |
| 01:44.24 | kullervo | now that more classes have it players QQ about it not being efficient enough |
| 01:44.40 | jonn | no, its useless |
| 01:44.59 | jonn | you get rezed, and if there is ANY damage out, youll die again |
| 01:45.06 | Djane | Protip |
| 01:45.08 | Djane | Don't be bad. |
| 01:45.09 | kullervo | if blizzard budges it'll end up with freshly ressed players having 150% of their health and same buffs as when they died |
| 01:45.20 | kullervo | when a battle res is called, you use battle res |
| 01:45.25 | kullervo | you rise up when it's safe |
| 01:45.26 | kullervo | that simple |
| 01:45.32 | Djane | ^ |
| 01:46.05 | jonn | very hard to do on omnitron |
| 01:46.18 | kullervo | no it's not, stop sucking |
| 01:46.26 | jonn | have you done omnitron? i doubt it |
| 01:46.51 | tate | and then suddently |
| 01:46.52 | tate | >PvE |
| 01:46.54 | tate | oh wow |
| 01:47.01 | tate | hides |
| 01:47.06 | kullervo | you can bloody judge when the healers have enough time to top you up instantly |
| 01:47.34 | Djane | It's almost as if they're called hardmodes for a reason. |
| 01:47.39 | kullervo | tate: no I go >PVP |
| 01:47.57 | kullervo | Djane: exactly |
| 01:48.09 | Djane | If you can't take the heat |
| 01:48.13 | Djane | Don't get into the fire. |
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| 01:51.58 | jonn | maybe DKs should get a glyph or something to increase the health |
| 01:52.00 | jonn | like druids have. |
| 01:52.07 | Djane | I heard Dk's are healers yo. |
| 01:52.15 | jonn | what? |
| 01:52.19 | jonn | druids brez people with 100% health. |
| 01:52.25 | Djane | There's a reason Dk and Warlock brezzes are inferior. |
| 01:52.29 | Djane | They're not native healers. |
| 01:52.39 | jonn | imo they should just make all rezes usable in combat |
| 01:52.45 | Djane | Oh stop bitching. |
| 01:52.49 | jonn | you still have the limit per fight |
| 01:52.51 | Djane | If you can't handle hardmodes, don't do them. |
| 01:53.00 | jonn | its just shitty rng |
| 01:53.09 | Djane | No, it is not. |
| 01:53.51 | jonn | i really really hate omnitron |
| 01:54.01 | jonn | the fight is all rng. |
| 01:54.05 | kullervo | then don't... don't go there? |
| 01:54.08 | Djane | No it isn't |
| 01:54.14 | Djane | Chimareon is rng |
| 01:54.30 | kullervo | in pve not much really can be whined about as being rng |
| 01:54.45 | Djane | Chimareon rng cna literally make it impossible ot kill |
| 01:54.47 | kullervo | in pvp not much rng can be whined about as being noteworthy |
| 01:55.03 | Djane | Omnotron rng cannot |
| 01:55.06 | Djane | it's not rng |
| 01:55.11 | Djane | it's poor tactics/lack of awareness. |
| 01:57.32 | jonn | omnitron is all about the shitty timing of bosses up |
| 01:57.49 | Djane | Which you can control, to a certain extent. |
| 01:57.52 | Djane | And you can definitely predict. |
| 01:58.23 | Djane | and in predicting lies the solution. |
| 02:00.37 | tate | blaaaa |
| 02:00.39 | tate | i wanna sleep >,> |
| 02:00.44 | Djane | Heroic modes are all about knowing the fight so well you can manage the harshness that comes |
| 02:00.46 | tate | i have some angry birds outside |
| 02:00.52 | Djane | The moment you don't know what you're doing, you'll probably wipe. |
| 02:01.07 | Izzmo | Most of them aren't that difficult though.. |
| 02:01.18 | Djane | Izzmo, when you overgear, no. |
| 02:01.21 | Izzmo | BWD overall is actually pretty easy. |
| 02:01.22 | Djane | As progression, yes. |
| 02:01.28 | Izzmo | Well, at what point is being overgeared? |
| 02:01.37 | Djane | Heroic halfus, 359 average |
| 02:01.43 | Djane | Maloriak, 359 average |
| 02:01.54 | Djane | end wing bosses, between 362 and 365 average |
| 02:02.12 | Djane | The fights are tuned for just short of perfect gear coming up to that point |
| 02:02.15 | Izzmo | Chimaeron, Atramedes, Magmaw, Maloriak, Halfus are all easy |
| 02:02.20 | tate | http://rofl.fi/angrybirds.AVI |
| 02:02.23 | tate | q,q' |
| 02:02.25 | Djane | Once you've killed them once, yes. |
| 02:02.28 | Djane | But we're not talking that |
| 02:02.31 | Djane | we're talking progression |
| 02:02.31 | Izzmo | the only real hard fights are Nef, and basically everything passed Halfus |
| 02:02.47 | jonn | omnitron is one of the hardest apparently |
| 02:02.52 | Izzmo | Right, but I'm saying easy because they are just like normal mode except 1 or tops 2 quarks |
| 02:03.01 | Izzmo | Omnitron is pretty difficult |
| 02:03.24 | Izzmo | Halfus > Council > VT > Cho'Gall > Senestra for BoT |
| 02:03.39 | jonn | i dont know why we dont do council |
| 02:03.41 | Izzmo | Maloriak > Chimaeron > Magmaw > Atramedes > Nefarian |
| 02:04.21 | Djane | Izzmo, quirks do not define difficulty alone |
| 02:05.00 | Izzmo | Well, if you are 12/12, then usually you have shown you have what it takes to down Heroics, so mostly it comes down to heroics unless a guild has severely carried someone |
| 02:05.21 | Izzmo | Correction: "so mostly it comes down to quarks" |
| 02:05.26 | Djane | Nope. |
| 02:05.31 | Izzmo | This is all my own opinion, but that's just what I've seen. |
| 02:05.33 | Djane | You have to consider fight tuning and raid setups too. |
| 02:05.45 | Djane | 10man gets shafted pretty hard on some raid difficulties |
| 02:05.48 | Djane | Halfus being one of them |
| 02:05.49 | Izzmo | Okay, assuming you have the right class make-up |
| 02:05.50 | Lothrik | =| |
| 02:05.53 | Lothrik | We noticed that you have not played World of Warcraft for awhile. Claim your 7 FREE days of game time! |
| 02:05.55 | Lothrik | derp |
| 02:06.05 | Djane | Again, 10man is much more likely to be shafted in terms of perfect raid setup |
| 02:06.14 | Djane | So which raiding you do has a massive impact on difficulty |
| 02:06.30 | Djane | 10man is generally but not always harder, for instance. |
| 02:06.30 | Izzmo | 10 man is very finely tuned, compared to 25-man, so yes i will agree you do have to be required to know what you are doing moreso than a 25-man group |
| 02:06.49 | jonn | shadow conductors + poison bombs is pretty fucking dumb |
| 02:06.49 | Djane | Mostly overtuned compared to 25man |
| 02:06.51 | Izzmo | When is it ever not harder? |
| 02:06.53 | Djane | Or rather 25man is undertuned. |
| 02:07.05 | Djane | I haven't checked the statistics recently |
| 02:07.13 | Djane | but when content came out, al'akir was easier on 10 |
| 02:07.23 | Djane | that may of changed nowadays |
| 02:07.31 | Izzmo | Yeah, I could see that actually |
| 02:07.33 | Djane | I believe nef was as well |
| 02:07.48 | jonn | nef needs like a 3rd half tank |
| 02:07.50 | Djane | It's not just tuning either. |
| 02:07.54 | jonn | ive heard a plate dps works well with a shield for that |
| 02:08.00 | Djane | It's the mechanics of numbers. |
| 02:08.00 | jonn | or a feral druid |
| 02:08.15 | Djane | If you have 10 raiders, and the optimal strategy calls for a 3rd tank, and you also have a hard enrage timer. |
| 02:08.20 | Djane | hard difficulty, that is. |
| 02:08.46 | Djane | 10man gets shafted considerably more than 25man, any time you have optimal strategies that call for less dps, 10man gets hurt. |
| 02:08.51 | Izzmo | well that's the glory of hard modes, a lot of fights require a 3rd or second tank |
| 02:09.00 | Djane | Second tank isn't a problem. |
| 02:09.01 | jonn | 2nd is expected |
| 02:09.04 | Djane | it's the 3rd that hurts. |
| 02:09.07 | jonn | 3rd is like LOL what |
| 02:09.13 | Djane | And thus poor design at times. |
| 02:09.24 | Djane | Maloriak is brutal on class composition |
| 02:09.26 | Izzmo | Well, I suppose, but your DPS is still hamstrung by lacking that extra DPS |
| 02:09.27 | Djane | 3 melee? Forget it. |
| 02:09.29 | jonn | but yeah |
| 02:09.39 | jonn | omnitron shadow shit + poison bombs = wtf |
| 02:09.53 | Djane | Izzmo, 5 dps should be able to meet any enrage timer there is. |
| 02:09.58 | Djane | 4...it's a bit harder. |
| 02:10.08 | Izzmo | Correct |
| 02:10.09 | jonn | 5 is what you should normally have |
| 02:10.13 | kullervo | maybe your tanks push great dps |
| 02:10.13 | Djane | And similarly, hardmodes enforce 3 healers where a lot of normals you can 2 heal |
| 02:10.26 | Djane | kullervo, not in hardmodes, in normals we can afford hit and expertise |
| 02:10.34 | Djane | in hardmodes, 1% hit I can't get rid of and no expertise. |
| 02:10.40 | Djane | I struggle to break 10k |
| 02:10.46 | Djane | and that's only if i'm constantly getting hit |
| 02:10.50 | Izzmo | Yeah was about to say, no good tank should be over 10k |
| 02:10.51 | Djane | Valiona normal mode? 14k+ |
| 02:10.57 | fewyn | what's the minimum ilevel for heroics again? |
| 02:10.59 | jonn | our tank does 8k |
| 02:11.00 | Djane | 329 |
| 02:11.09 | kullervo | valiona on normal mode ~13k and I have no dps stats at all |
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| 02:11.16 | Izzmo | 8k isn't too bad |
| 02:11.21 | Djane | kullervo, yes, but you're solo tanking and always getting hit, and it's normal mode. |
| 02:11.26 | Izzmo | I think I do usually around 7 to 8 |
| 02:11.26 | kullervo | yes |
| 02:11.32 | Djane | You should do that much. |
| 02:11.36 | Izzmo | Right |
| 02:11.44 | Djane | Because Valiona is the perfect dps fight for a tank |
| 02:11.52 | Djane | No movement, constantly getting hit for max vengence amounts |
| 02:11.55 | kullervo | think I was at 8k on last cho fight |
| 02:12.04 | Djane | Indeed. I tend around that |
| 02:12.12 | kullervo | can't remember who the hell was the other tank |
| 02:12.19 | kullervo | a warrior yeah, I had to hold back |
| 02:12.31 | Djane | Izzmo, on heroic halfus, with 3 tanks and 3 healers, or 2 tanks and 4 healers |
| 02:12.38 | jonn | i dont really like these fights to be honest |
| 02:12.40 | kullervo | and save the avenger's shields for interrupts QQ |
| 02:12.43 | Djane | dps need to push 22k dps before you add the multipliers on |
| 02:12.50 | Djane | kullervo, that fight is a nightmare for avengers shield. |
| 02:13.01 | Djane | After I do it the next two fights i instinctively hesitate on AS. |
| 02:13.12 | Djane | and i always blow it on the pull on the first go. |
| 02:13.14 | kullervo | for me it's the other way around |
| 02:13.25 | tate | BLAA |
| 02:13.29 | kullervo | normally I'm all "OMG AS UP MUST USE MUUUUUST UUUUUSEEEE" |
| 02:13.46 | Djane | 22k dps is actually quite a harsh amount |
| 02:13.56 | Djane | My dps reach it easily, but then my dps are good. |
| 02:14.05 | Djane | Consistantly ranking in the top 100's on fights, for instance. |
| 02:14.27 | Djane | And similarly, stacking melee dps? Goodbye maloriak kill. |
| 02:14.30 | kullervo | depends on the class what they can do |
| 02:14.35 | kullervo | imo |
| 02:14.40 | Djane | kullervo, yes and no. |
| 02:14.43 | kullervo | a mage can do 40k on 3 targets |
| 02:14.46 | Djane | All dps can reach the required thresholds. |
| 02:14.56 | kullervo | yeah the required, but past that |
| 02:15.19 | Djane | past that just makes fights easier. |
| 02:15.55 | tate | oh lol |
| 02:16.18 | tate | some mage joined to realm, yelled how badass he is and whispered me "noob" |
| 02:16.30 | kullervo | that's the spirit |
| 02:16.36 | Djane | kullervo, ony my last heroic halfus kill i have |
| 02:16.59 | Djane | warlock 52k, mage 41k, hunter 41k, dk 41k |
| 02:16.59 | tate | then copied it to trade and he whispered me back saying like "DON'T FUCK WITH ME" and all that shit |
| 02:17.01 | Djane | as my dps |
| 02:17.06 | fewyn | holy shit queue is down to 15 minutes for heroics? |
| 02:17.16 | tate | and at last he ignored me by saying "look at that noob XD" |
| 02:17.16 | Djane | me at 23k, next tank at 20k, third tank at 7k |
| 02:17.17 | jonn | nobody queues for normal heroics |
| 02:17.22 | fewyn | :( |
| 02:17.27 | kullervo | what was the third tank doing? |
| 02:17.27 | tate | normal heroics, wat |
| 02:17.31 | fewyn | but i wanan do heroics on my mage! |
| 02:17.43 | Djane | kullervo, offtanking, in an offspec she never plays, mostly. |
| 02:17.44 | fewyn | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/velen/cakecicle/advanced |
| 02:17.45 | tate | i hope u ain't the mage just whisped me |
| 02:17.46 | jonn | expect the bottom of the barrel players, even more than normal |
| 02:17.51 | tate | phew |
| 02:17.51 | Djane | With fuck all vengence, gear and practise, I suspect. |
| 02:17.53 | fewyn | nope |
| 02:17.56 | kullervo | ...ait |
| 02:18.03 | Djane | Yeah, she wasn't there to pewpew |
| 02:18.04 | fewyn | fuck |
| 02:18.07 | fewyn | where's the helm enchant |
| 02:18.08 | fewyn | for mages? |
| 02:18.09 | fewyn | i forget |
| 02:18.12 | fewyn | hyjal? |
| 02:18.12 | Djane | She was there to split the mortal strike, and that's what she does |
| 02:18.22 | kullervo | Djane: you get full vengeance by tanking anything at all there :S |
| 02:18.34 | kullervo | after you no longer tank just switch to a dps weapon |
| 02:18.35 | Djane | kullervo, but she only tanks anything for about 1/4 of the time. |
| 02:18.47 | Djane | First mortal strike switch, HoP on MT |
| 02:18.52 | Djane | second mortal strike switch, taunt. |
| 02:18.57 | Djane | Third mortal strike switch, HoP on MT. |
| 02:19.02 | Djane | Fourth mortal strike switch, taunt. |
| 02:19.05 | Djane | Fifth+ irrelevant. |
| 02:19.18 | Djane | So she's only getting hit 30 seconds of the fight or so. |
| 02:20.04 | Djane | (oh, and she died...which halves her dps(e). She was doing 11k before that point. Which I suppose makes it make more sense) |
| 02:20.37 | Djane | I think my highest on halfus normal was about 32k |
| 02:20.40 | jonn | i almost wiped us |
| 02:20.45 | Djane | Good times. Single tanking the fight <3 |
| 02:20.47 | jonn | on halfus, but i never told anyone |
| 02:21.00 | Djane | he says, telling everyone. |
| 02:21.02 | jonn | i loh the tank, he would probably wonder why he couldnt bubble but it wore off just in time |
| 02:21.20 | Djane | Why would a tank bubble? |
| 02:21.23 | jonn | the debuff |
| 02:21.30 | Djane | But you're 25man |
| 02:21.34 | jonn | right |
| 02:21.35 | Djane | Don't you have like a million Hand of protections? |
| 02:21.53 | kullervo | Djane: don't you know you can't use it on debuff targets? |
| 02:21.59 | Djane | Yes, I do. |
| 02:22.07 | jonn | its the same issue with forbarance |
| 02:22.13 | Djane | But I also know an external cooldown beats an internal one |
| 02:22.34 | Djane | Because it means I can concentrate on setting up my taunting rotation whilst it's landing |
| 02:22.52 | Djane | And it also means I save my bubble for furious roar interupt emergency |
| 02:23.39 | jonn | meh |
| 02:23.43 | jonn | one tank gets bopped, one bubbles |
| 02:23.55 | Djane | But you have what, at least 3 paladins? |
| 02:24.19 | jonn | like 4 i think |
| 02:24.29 | Djane | Right. |
| 02:24.40 | jonn | theyre used to having one holy pally |
| 02:24.49 | Djane | Enough paladins to ensure no risk whatsoever of furious roar shadownova |
| 02:24.50 | jonn | i wouldnt ask the ret pally to do it tbh |
| 02:25.31 | jonn | i have trouble healing people targeted by the fire beam |
| 02:25.40 | jonn | that seems like only a 25m problem. |
| 02:25.50 | Djane | on omno? |
| 02:25.53 | jonn | yes |
| 02:25.59 | jonn | i have trouble finding them, to be honest |
| 02:26.06 | Djane | ...welcome to raid frames and boss mods. |
| 02:26.24 | Djane | mouseover macros |
| 02:26.51 | Djane | kullervo, the one thing I was really frustrated about was that I was forced to get boss mods for nefarian |
| 02:27.01 | Djane | I despise a mechanic that -forces- a boss mods |
| 02:27.39 | Djane | heroic halfus doesn't, heroic chimareon doesn't, heroic atramades doesn't, heroic maloriak doesn't. |
| 02:27.45 | Djane | Normal nefarian, does. |
| 02:27.52 | Djane | at least, for add tanking. |
| 02:29.16 | jonn | i turned names on grid, maybe that'll help |
| 02:29.28 | Djane | snickers. |
| 02:30.08 | tate | hides |
| 02:36.11 | Izzmo | thinks Dubstep is the shit |
| 02:42.59 | Stormkitty | thinks dubstep is shit |
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| 02:50.37 | Djane | thinks Stormkitty is the. |
| 02:50.46 | Stormkitty | <3 |
| 02:51.19 | tate | doesn't think anything |
| 02:51.39 | Stormkitty | Must be American |
| 02:51.41 | Stormkitty | runs |
| 02:51.45 | tate | finn ._. |
| 02:51.48 | tate | 05am |
| 02:51.51 | Stormkitty | :3 |
| 02:52.01 | tate | close enough tho |
| 02:52.08 | tate | gives a [Cookie] to Stormkitty |
| 02:52.10 | tate | take a cookie |
| 02:52.13 | Stormkitty | \o/ |
| 02:52.22 | Stormkitty | eats cookie in 0.1 seconds |
| 02:54.10 | tate | why god crated anal games |
| 02:54.15 | tate | fuck you god |
| 02:58.15 | jonn | trash respawns are always a good sign |
| 02:58.23 | tate | idd |
| 02:58.53 | Freyja | [The Wowhead Blog] Latest Cataclysm Hotfixes (5/11) - http://www.wowheadnews.com/blog=189103/latest-cataclysm-hotfixes-5-11 |
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| 02:59.16 | jonn | i wish the gate wasnt there in hm bwd |
| 02:59.26 | jonn | sucks to progress on omnitron, you cant do other farm bosses |
| 03:03.51 | hrist | what gate? |
| 03:04.00 | jonn | to the rest of the raid |
| 03:04.18 | hrist | wut? can't you just turn it back to normal and do the rest? |
| 03:04.46 | jonn | you have to do that at the end of the week, and hope you have enough time to clear everything else |
| 03:06.22 | hrist | I don't see anything that prevents you to do so earlier? |
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| 03:11.26 | kullervo | it's actually not even spelled "omnitron" |
| 03:24.26 | jonn | lol someone broke a shield at like 5% |
| 03:32.36 | fewyn | yay my mage got a heroix cloak |
| 03:32.55 | Izzmo | gratz |
| 03:39.27 | Stormkitty | Fury Warrior: http://danbooru.donmai.us/data/47912688441ee36071af4ba8d6fe837f.png |
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| 03:47.04 | jonn | shit finally died |
| 03:47.16 | Stormkitty | Seahorse: http://danbooru.donmai.us/data/5e23e082327943fe5836efd7169b4400.png |
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| 04:41.54 | Freyja | [The Wowhead Blog] Patch 4.2: Beth'tilac PTR Strategies and Preview - http://www.wowheadnews.com/blog=189104/patch-4-2-bethtilac-ptr-strategies-and-preview |
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| 05:40.37 | BlackNet | it's going to be epic |
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| 07:25.21 | robokitty | *mrawrØ |
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| 08:05.58 | Bruun | wow that took some time... |
| 08:08.49 | g0urra | that's what she said |
| 08:11.19 | Bruun | well... that's a good thing, rite? |
| 08:12.14 | robokitty | :| |
| 08:12.42 | Bruun | soo.... need to find some cool pictures of trash cans |
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| 08:30.32 | Bruun | http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/han_solo_desk1.jpg |
| 08:30.32 | Lazz | http://laughingsquid.com/wp-content/uploads/r2d2-trashcan.jpg |
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| 08:45.03 | Lazz | what's not serious about R2-D2? :( |
| 08:45.24 | Lazz | http://lmgtfy.com/?q=cool+trash+cans |
| 08:46.00 | Bruun | i started with "trash cans on fire" >.< |
| 08:50.13 | Lazz | http://etc.usf.edu/clippix/pix/park-trash-can-in-the-snow_medium.jpg cool enough for ya? |
| 08:50.16 | Lazz | >:D |
| 08:51.53 | Freyja | [The Wowhead Blog] BFF Report - Ep 67 - Spiral Knights - http://www.wowheadnews.com/blog=189122/bff-report-ep-67-spiral-knights |
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| 12:08.37 | robokitty | bah |
| 12:08.47 | robokitty | strength flask for all of my troubles |
| 12:10.11 | Stormkitty | oh man what has my life come to. I'm giving people on the Internet advice on how to walk through the worst neighbourhood in North America. Then it occurs to me I've LIVED in the worst neighbourhood in North America. |
| 12:10.58 | humma_kavula | south Detroit? |
| 12:11.29 | Stormkitty | Downtown Eastside, Vancouver |
| 12:12.15 | Stormkitty | Detroit is fucking disneyland compared to Eastside Vancouver |
| 12:12.36 | humma_kavula | you guys have legalized weed though, so its not such a downer |
| 12:12.54 | Stormkitty | No we don't, that's a common American misconception |
| 12:13.32 | humma_kavula | okok, "decriminalized" |
| 12:13.47 | Stormkitty | Not true either |
| 12:14.47 | humma_kavula | damn, that sucks for you guys then |
| 12:14.58 | humma_kavula | at least youve got a nice Chinatown to eat at |
| 12:15.23 | Stormkitty | It's a Schedule II Narcotic, meaning it carries less severe sentencing and charges for possession but the same severe punishments for trafficking and growing |
| 12:16.30 | humma_kavula | Ricky and Julian are out of jail again, so theres still hope |
| 12:17.19 | Stormkitty | and there's additional sentence reductions for smaller amounts |
| 12:17.21 | Stormkitty | It's rather complex |
| 12:17.30 | Stormkitty | But make no mistake, it's not decriminalised or legalised. |
| 12:17.56 | humma_kavula | Mr. Lahey will be on the warpath again then |
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| 13:58.10 | Domh | Yuck. PTR client is still downloading. Why is this taking so long? I started it like 15 hours ago and it's not even halfway |
| 13:58.29 | kullervo | no seeds, low prio on blizzard's servers |
| 14:00.01 | Parall4x | Traditionally, enabling the P2P download in the Loader will result in very little reliance on Blizzard's HTTP source. Although it makes me a bad Internet user, I normally disable the P2P and do direct through the Loader. |
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| 14:32.47 | BlackNet | hmmm |
| 14:33.03 | BlackNet | wish there was some way to invite guild wide on another guild for a cal invite |
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| 15:00.46 | blademeld | ... |
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| 15:04.27 | blademeld | Welcome... to the WORLKD OF TOMORROW! |
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| 15:05.02 | blademeld | World* |
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| 15:28.09 | blademeld | fewyn: are the races pages borked on Wowhead? |
| 15:37.11 | robokitty | mewrs |
| 15:37.52 | robokitty | well, the classes linked sure are :P |
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| 19:26.32 | Irrelephant | Heroic maloriak with actual melee dps sucks. |
| 19:27.06 | BlackNet | melee got shafted by a semi truck sideways in cata |
| 19:30.50 | jonn | its hard to really do much without fucking over melee |
| 19:31.29 | BlackNet | im not to sure about that |
| 19:32.45 | jonn | i'm not sure of a fight where youd want melee dps heavy over ranged |
| 19:33.12 | BlackNet | they could have easily made council fight so you have to have melee on terra in p2 |
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| 19:33.54 | jonn | melee are only there for the interrupts |
| 19:34.57 | Djane | Shamans say hello. |
| 19:35.30 | jonn | they kept fucking up omni last night |
| 19:35.40 | jonn | the melee dps said to have the 4 shamans interrupt >_> |
| 19:35.47 | BlackNet | lemme guess static shock |
| 19:36.01 | Djane | He's talking heroic. |
| 19:36.24 | jonn | that fight has so much shit going on, i just know people died when they missed |
| 19:36.30 | jonn | and I died twice during the kill |
| 19:36.56 | BlackNet | oh |
| 19:37.11 | jonn | i still havent done nef lol |
| 19:37.23 | BlackNet | think my group of scrubs is goign to be working on big al today |
| 19:37.47 | jonn | my character is 11/12N 7/13H lol |
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| 19:38.32 | BlackNet | 10/12 here |
| 19:38.40 | jonn | i feel like i get carried |
| 19:38.47 | jonn | i dont know if its just not me sniping heals enough or what |
| 19:40.55 | Djane | Well. |
| 19:41.03 | Djane | what was your progress before you joined that guild? |
| 19:41.20 | Djane | It was something like 9/12 normal right? |
| 19:41.20 | BlackNet | many ppl now are indeed being carried in raids |
| 19:43.04 | BlackNet | my group is dying to do heroic halfus and they think it should be easy :) |
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| 19:45.09 | jonn | Djane: 11/12 |
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| 19:45.45 | izzmo | Djane you are only 12/12? |
| 19:45.50 | izzmo | 11/12* |
| 19:46.29 | izzmo | Oh wow, nevermind, dyslexia clicked in there. |
| 19:46.36 | BlackNet | we were in one of the new dungeons and the gm's brother was on his mage. they pulled an extra group and i picked them up, it was to much and i went down, so did the healer and a dps. warrior and this guy was only one up. what does he do? he iceblocks and had 1 mob left under 100k |
| 19:48.19 | BlackNet | OH |
| 19:48.23 | BlackNet | i have something for you Djane |
| 19:48.26 | BlackNet | lemme find it |
| 19:48.39 | BlackNet | http://sacredduty.net/ |
| 19:48.42 | BlackNet | there ya go |
| 19:49.45 | Djane | izzmo, no? |
| 19:49.56 | Djane | 2/13 currently, but started heroics recently. |
| 19:50.41 | Djane | should be 4/13 this reset |
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| 19:51.11 | Djane | but we're only a casual guild so *shrug* |
| 19:52.28 | Lothrik | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLrnkK2YEcE |
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| 20:05.45 | Gunrun` | Canceled wow sub |
| 20:06.02 | BlackNet | oh? |
| 20:11.45 | jonn | Djane: what bosses are you working on |
| 20:18.29 | BlackNet | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:34.02 | jonn | BlackNet: i dont think so, but i dont remember |
| 20:34.14 | jonn | we only have 2 tanks for it iirc |
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| 21:20.34 | fewyn | pug za/zg heroic or do normal heroics? |
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| 21:25.36 | BlackNet | you can do the normals faster than the 2 new ones. |
| 21:25.50 | BlackNet | ppl are not that skilled with them and it's epic fail and massive wipes |
| 21:30.10 | izzmo | ^ Agreed. |
| 21:30.29 | jonn | i havent even done them |
| 21:30.39 | BlackNet | http://sacredduty.net/2011/05/06/what-your-raid-leader-really-thinks-of-you/ |
| 21:30.42 | BlackNet | this is so epic |
| 21:30.42 | jonn | well, I did a zg |
| 21:30.44 | jonn | i t was painful |
| 21:32.05 | fewyn | I NEED TEH VALORZ |
| 21:32.21 | izzmo | lol BlackNet that article is pretty funny |
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| 21:33.27 | izzmo | ZG and ZA are so easy, I just don't understand how some people don't get those strategies, especially the first two bosses in ZA |
| 21:33.56 | Sephiroth | i run zg and za with guild runs, have no problems in them. |
| 21:34.22 | BlackNet | was on hex lord last night, party kept wiping then when i posted damage done by spell they stood up and took notice. |
| 21:34.24 | izzmo | Yeah, the problem is the times when I actually want to run them, none of my guild does, so I get stuck with crappy randoms. |
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| 21:34.50 | izzmo | Why I bother I don't know, my DPS and Tank set are ilvl 360+ and have over 1000 valor points that I cannot use |
| 21:34.55 | BlackNet | ppl dont understand the mechanics and know or will interrupt, spell steal, purge and move out of shit like consecration |
| 21:35.26 | BlackNet | this is all the results of the lame ass gearscore bs that has been prevailant in icc days. |
| 21:35.32 | izzmo | Yeah, Interrupts are crucial in these new ones I've figured out, but for somemone who is a MT in raids, it's just common nature to look for it |
| 21:35.38 | BlackNet | cant join a simple raid if your gear score is not high enough blah blah blah |
| 21:35.51 | izzmo | Even as DPS when some random is tanking and I see a interruptable cast, I'm just like.. dude wtf aren't you interrupting? |
| 21:36.09 | BlackNet | i tell all my guys to interrupt everything, purge/spell steal and dispell anything/everything you can |
| 21:36.27 | izzmo | It should be automatic if they have a properly setup UI |
| 21:36.29 | BlackNet | in fact when we made it to maloriak we wiped hard because everyoen was interrupting LOL |
| 21:36.31 | jonn | i hope holy pallys dont get a ranged interrupt |
| 21:36.34 | jonn | i dont want to deal with that shit |
| 21:36.38 | izzmo | BAM YELLOW CAST BAR--------> INTERRUPT |
| 21:36.48 | izzmo | Warriors have a ranged interrupt.. |
| 21:36.59 | izzmo | protection spec anyways |
| 21:37.14 | BlackNet | when im on the hex lord i refuse to use consecration because he can steal it and ppl need to GTFO |
| 21:37.25 | izzmo | lol |
| 21:37.35 | izzmo | I thought he still used it anyways? |
| 21:37.39 | BlackNet | dk's should not use dnd on that boss either. he will steal it |
| 21:37.43 | BlackNet | he will use it anyways |
| 21:37.45 | Darkmilkz | he uses it whether you cast it or not |
| 21:37.52 | nebula169 | he steals the class, not just shit you use |
| 21:37.58 | izzmo | ... u sure? |
| 21:38.02 | BlackNet | but how does the dps know when he stold it or you put it down :) simple solution to a dumb problem is dont use it |
| 21:38.05 | izzmo | I'm pretty sure he does consecration and DnD anyways |
| 21:38.11 | nebula169 | he does |
| 21:38.12 | BlackNet | he will do it anyways. |
| 21:38.22 | izzmo | ... then why does it matter? |
| 21:38.28 | BlackNet | i dont use that spell there because ppl need to GTFO and i dont want to confuse them |
| 21:38.37 | izzmo | oo |
| 21:38.45 | BlackNet | they dont know if he cast it or i cast it |
| 21:38.58 | BlackNet | so if i do *NOT* use it then it gets put down then GTFO |
| 21:39.08 | izzmo | I wish Blizzard would implement a rating system |
| 21:39.13 | BlackNet | simple, clean and dumb down |
| 21:39.13 | izzmo | much like PlayerScore has |
| 21:39.19 | Darkmilkz | well the melee will move because youll move the boss.. are these ranged standing on the boss or something? |
| 21:39.30 | BlackNet | they like to yes |
| 21:39.42 | BlackNet | had a druid, lifebloom was stolen, mage refused to steal it |
| 21:39.48 | BlackNet | the shammy refused to purge it |
| 21:39.57 | BlackNet | boss healed back up and ppl were pissed |
| 21:41.14 | BlackNet | when he steals holy light from me and ppl dont interrupt it things turn ugly |
| 21:41.37 | BlackNet | dragon hawk on the boss after that, last boss there, has fire. ppl die from fire streams all the time |
| 21:44.28 | kullervo | because they're stupid |
| 21:44.40 | BlackNet | yup |
| 21:45.01 | BlackNet | healers have the worst time in the new dungeons. they have tunnel vision and cant move out of stuff |
| 21:46.44 | kullervo | I should change my priest's UI |
| 21:46.51 | kullervo | and put Grid in the middle |
| 21:47.10 | BlackNet | im using tukui now, well elvui which is a tukui edit. |
| 21:47.17 | BlackNet | it has 'grid' built in basically |
| 21:47.26 | kullervo | yeah we know, you've told it four hundred times |
| 21:47.46 | BlackNet | oh sorry |
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| 21:54.24 | izzmo | lol |
| 21:54.57 | izzmo | So, this tukui, how does it look and feel, does it have a grid style interface? |
| 21:58.00 | BlackNet | http://wetlands.simplyaquatics.com/v/wow/WoWScrnShot_050711_215203.jpg.html |
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| 22:15.50 | jonn | BlackNet: I have that issue a lot |
| 22:15.56 | jonn | 10m seemed a lot better in that respect |
| 22:17.15 | BlackNet | which issue |
| 22:18.58 | jonn | tunnel visioning grid |
| 22:21.23 | BlackNet | ah |
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| 22:25.00 | Izzmo[A] | is now away - Reason : .. |
| 22:25.03 | Izzmo[A] | is no longer away : Gone for 2 seconds |
| 22:29.30 | fewyn | reins of the crimson deathcharger? |
| 22:29.32 | fewyn | do i want? |
| 22:30.46 | g0urra | no |
| 22:30.53 | fewyn | yes i do |
| 22:30.54 | fewyn | you lie |
| 22:31.59 | g0urra | no |
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| 22:40.49 | fewyn | [18:40:38] You won an auction for Reins of the Crimson Deathcharger |
| 22:41.37 | jonn | fewyn: how much lol |
| 22:42.26 | fewyn | 75k |
| 22:44.10 | jonn | I really need to get my neutral ah setup going again, blizzard broke it somehow |
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| 22:46.15 | Stormkitty | http://imgur.com/xIWek |
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| 22:59.37 | Domh | Yes, storm, that is how that works :p |
| 23:01.43 | g0urra | so true |
| 23:02.23 | d33k | PAKOW |
| 23:02.52 | fewyn | crimson deathcharger model is pretty badass |
| 23:03.43 | jonn | isnt it just the dk mount? |
| 23:05.20 | g0urra | yep |
| 23:05.29 | g0urra | BUT ITS RED |
| 23:05.43 | d33k | i sold that thing for 110k gold |
| 23:06.03 | d33k | it was the first of the vanity items that i sold... it was sold before i even fought LK with shadowmourne |
| 23:06.09 | g0urra | I mean, honestly, paying that much for a recolored DK mount? noty |
| 23:06.28 | d33k | yeah, some DK bought it for his rogue friend or something, probably a girl who promised him nudes |
| 23:06.41 | fewyn | i bought it for my rogue |
| 23:06.42 | g0urra | LOL |
| 23:06.47 | g0urra | oh my |
| 23:06.48 | fewyn | i am officially never allowed to main change |
| 23:06.50 | fewyn | ever |
| 23:06.54 | d33k | sold the dwarf thing for 40k, music box for 60k, donated the locket to guild that i got the kill on |
| 23:06.59 | d33k | kept the tabard on my DK |
| 23:07.22 | d33k | i built the shadowmourne in july 2010 by hosting ICC GDKPs >.> |
| 23:07.26 | d33k | fuckin earned it! |
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| 23:08.09 | d33k | i never bothered teaching the GDKP ppl the LK fight though, cause of how much it took them to learn sindy |
| 23:08.21 | d33k | so i just went with some other guild for the LK kill with shadowmourne. |
| 23:08.51 | d33k | i want more tabards though |
| 23:10.38 | fewyn | so |
| 23:10.40 | fewyn | QUESTION |
| 23:10.42 | fewyn | if i wanted to tank |
| 23:10.48 | fewyn | which class would you pick? |
| 23:10.56 | fewyn | non-dk |
| 23:11.04 | fewyn | so druid, paladin or warrior? |
| 23:12.12 | BlackNet | paly or warrior |
| 23:14.06 | fewyn | NOXY WHAT IS YOUR OPINION |
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| 23:17.44 | fewyn | domh! |
| 23:20.10 | jonn | why nondk, fewyn |
| 23:20.20 | fewyn | because i don't want to tank on my dk |
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| 23:21.26 | d33k | do druid. |
| 23:21.29 | bladework | BECAUSE DKDK |
| 23:21.32 | bladework | keke |
| 23:21.36 | d33k | you can essentially dps in tank gear |
| 23:21.37 | fewyn | my dk is also a bank alt |
| 23:21.37 | Stormkitty | Domh: I know eh, Harper's just so easy to hate. Like Bush. |
| 23:21.47 | bladework | go druid or paladin so you can do CTA tank/healer |
| 23:22.00 | bladework | Stormkitty: BETTER THAN IGNATIAF |
| 23:22.08 | Domh | Pally IMO |
| 23:22.10 | bladework | Stormkitty: lol@his after election speeches |
| 23:22.15 | Domh | You should know that since that's whay I've been gearing :p |
| 23:22.36 | Domh | Druid is out cause raid leader is a tank druid. |
| 23:23.03 | Stormkitty | bladework: I wanted to hug him |
| 23:23.05 | Stormkitty | He looked so sad |
| 23:23.11 | bladework | Stormkitty: ... |
| 23:23.20 | Stormkitty | Ignatieff that is |
| 23:23.21 | Stormkitty | Not Harper |
| 23:23.22 | bladework | Stormkitty: that bastard became a prof @ UT |
| 23:23.32 | Stormkitty | Still, he looked absolutely crushed |
| 23:23.32 | bladework | since he failed at politics |
| 23:23.39 | bladework | screw him |
| 23:23.42 | bladework | seriously |
| 23:23.44 | Stormkitty | Still better than Mike Harris |
| 23:23.46 | Stormkitty | or Bob Rae |
| 23:23.50 | bladework | NDP LOL |
| 23:24.02 | Stormkitty | Also |
| 23:24.04 | Stormkitty | RALPH KLEIN |
| 23:24.05 | Stormkitty | LOLOL |
| 23:24.11 | bladework | ALSO |
| 23:24.15 | bladework | I have work to do |
| 23:24.15 | fewyn | Domh i mainly want to do it for cta |
| 23:24.16 | bladework | Q.Q |
| 23:24.20 | Stormkitty | bladework: http://imgur.com/gallery/ZJBWE |
| 23:24.20 | Stormkitty | :3 |
| 23:24.22 | bladework | fewyn: then paladin |
| 23:24.33 | fewyn | i don't do healing |
| 23:24.37 | Domh | Paladin, go prot/holy and you can avail of both CTAs |
| 23:24.37 | Domh | oh |
| 23:24.43 | Domh | Eh |
| 23:24.59 | bladework | ehhhh |
| 23:24.59 | Domh | I don't know warrior tanks at high level enough to have an opinion |
| 23:25.06 | bladework | warrior tanks are fine |
| 23:25.12 | Domh | But pally tanking isn't bad |
| 23:25.19 | bladework | they're more interesting than paladin tanking |
| 23:25.28 | Stormkitty | Face it |
| 23:25.32 | bladework | paladin tanking has become better with Grand Crusader change in 4.1 |
| 23:25.32 | Stormkitty | anything is more interesting |
| 23:25.34 | Stormkitty | than pally tanking |
| 23:25.35 | Stormkitty | :3 |
| 23:25.41 | bladework | Stormkitty: paladin healing? |
| 23:25.47 | Stormkitty | Even that |
| 23:25.52 | bladework | paladin DPS? |
| 23:25.57 | Stormkitty | even |
| 23:26.00 | Stormkitty | VANILLA WOW WARLOCK |
| 23:26.07 | bladework | no |
| 23:26.11 | Stormkitty | Shadowbolt times Infinity |
| 23:26.14 | bladework | paladin WotLK tanking |
| 23:26.16 | bladework | now that |
| 23:26.18 | Stormkitty | lawl |
| 23:26.21 | Stormkitty | ummmm |
| 23:26.25 | Stormkitty | ARCANE MAGE WOTLK |
| 23:26.26 | bladework | paladin WotLK tanking, 1 button macro |
| 23:26.32 | bladework | NOTHING TO KEEP TRACK OF |
| 23:26.36 | Stormkitty | :D |
| 23:26.38 | bladework | NO BUFFS, NO DEBUFFS |
| 23:26.43 | Stormkitty | SUNWELL WARLOCK |
| 23:26.43 | bladework | ONE BUTTON |
| 23:26.49 | Stormkitty | spec destro |
| 23:26.50 | Stormkitty | Shadowbolt |
| 23:26.54 | Stormkitty | get 9001 DPS |
| 23:27.01 | bladework | no, I'm pretty sure I have it capped at WotLK paladin tanking |
| 23:27.09 | bladework | nothing to track |
| 23:27.13 | bladework | no DoTs |
| 23:27.13 | Stormkitty | Hunter in WOTLK |
| 23:27.15 | bladework | no nothing |
| 23:27.17 | fewyn | i think i'm going to do warrior |
| 23:27.24 | Eraclito | >tbc hunters |
| 23:27.28 | Stormkitty | bladework: No, Sunwell Warlock really was just shadowbolt |
| 23:27.29 | bladework | fewyn: if you're not healing, might as well |
| 23:27.31 | Eraclito | macro to mousewheel |
| 23:27.33 | Stormkitty | you didn't DoT because it was DPS loss LAWL |
| 23:27.43 | bladework | Stormkitty: srs? |
| 23:27.45 | Stormkitty | srs |
| 23:27.50 | bladework | orly? |
| 23:27.53 | Stormkitty | yarly |
| 23:27.58 | bladework | daum |
| 23:27.58 | Stormkitty | You made the bad warlocks |
| 23:28.00 | Stormkitty | put up curse |
| 23:28.04 | Stormkitty | you just spammed shadowbolt |
| 23:28.14 | Stormkitty | and won the game |
| 23:28.33 | Stormkitty | 2k DPS at 70 sup |
| 23:28.42 | Stormkitty | I knew people who couldn't do 2k at 80 |
| 23:28.58 | fewyn | hrm |
| 23:28.59 | Jammer | as in bad gear? because casting shadowbolt don't sound like something anyone can be bad at :P |
| 23:29.02 | bladework | I left the party at that point |
| 23:29.03 | Stormkitty | bad gear |
| 23:29.04 | fewyn | now how do i want to gear up my warrior |
| 23:29.12 | bladework | fewyn: while levelling? |
| 23:29.12 | Stormkitty | Jammer also you'd be surprised |
| 23:29.14 | bladework | prot |
| 23:29.20 | fewyn | no i'm already level 85 bladekitty |
| 23:29.22 | bladework | oh |
| 23:29.23 | Stormkitty | People who don't know how to life tap for example |
| 23:29.32 | fewyn | http://www.wowhead.com/profile=us.velen.souffl%C3%A9 |
| 23:29.42 | bladework | Stormkitty: IF YOU HAVE TO LIFE TAP, IT"S MORE COMPLEX THAN PALADIN TANKING |
| 23:29.50 | Stormkitty | touche |
| 23:29.53 | Stormkitty | TBC hunter |
| 23:29.54 | Stormkitty | :D |
| 23:30.06 | Stormkitty | bladework also you didn't have to lifetap if you got 2 shadow priests |
| 23:30.08 | Stormkitty | lolololololol |
| 23:30.16 | Stormkitty | infinite mana is a go |
| 23:30.26 | bladework | fewyn: BoE epix and heroic gear --> ZA/ZG is the norm, no? |
| 23:30.47 | bladework | Stormkitty: heh, I miss those days when shadowpriests were recruited just for mana battery |
| 23:31.03 | fewyn | i'm currently not specced tank |
| 23:31.07 | fewyn | and have ilevel of 299 |
| 23:31.11 | Stormkitty | Yeah I didn't have to even pay attention, just return lots of mana ;_; |
| 23:31.18 | fewyn | hrm |
| 23:31.23 | Stormkitty | guilds fighting for a good shadow priest |
| 23:31.27 | Stormkitty | those were the days |
| 23:31.38 | bladework | fewyn: easiest thing would be get BoE epix and run 5 mans with geared guildy tank for leftover gear |
| 23:31.43 | Inc` | bladework: why :| |
| 23:31.49 | bladework | Inc`: why what? |
| 23:31.57 | Inc` | 18:32 bladework : Stormkitty: heh, I miss those days when shadowpriests were recruited just for mana battery |
| 23:32.08 | bladework | also, it's been a while since I've seen you talk Inc` |
| 23:32.09 | bladework | lol |
| 23:32.10 | Stormkitty | Inc`, because it was fucking fun |
| 23:32.13 | Stormkitty | Speaking as a shadow priest |
| 23:32.15 | bladework | ^^ |
| 23:32.21 | bladework | well, not speaking as SP |
| 23:32.24 | bladework | but still fun |
| 23:32.25 | Inc` | Yeah, busy with crap and raiding |
| 23:32.26 | Stormkitty | Infinite mana and I was EXPECTED to do bad DPS |
| 23:32.26 | bladework | to see them |
| 23:32.33 | Inc` | And I raided as a mana battery for 2 years :P |
| 23:32.36 | bladework | Inc`: so you still play? |
| 23:32.40 | Inc` | Yep |
| 23:32.41 | Stormkitty | I did for 3 years |
| 23:32.42 | Stormkitty | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:32.44 | Inc` | MTing a small guild |
| 23:32.47 | bladework | Inc`: what realm now? |
| 23:32.51 | Inc` | Durotan |
| 23:33.25 | Stormkitty | seen on r/Canada: |
| 23:33.28 | Stormkitty | Obama let a kid rub his head :3 |
| 23:33.28 | Stormkitty | I wouldn't let my (hypothetical) child near Harper. |
| 23:33.30 | Domh | feywn, spec it tank this weekend for WSG flag running |
| 23:33.36 | bladework | fewyn: if you don't want to cash out for epix, the only alternative would be to quest for gear replacements I guess |
| 23:33.50 | fewyn | problem is |
| 23:33.53 | bladework | Stormkitty: you won't have custody of your hypothetical child |
| 23:33.57 | Stormkitty | :| |
| 23:33.57 | fewyn | i've already quested |
| 23:34.03 | Stormkitty | and why is that, blade |
| 23:34.05 | bladework | fewyn: ah |
| 23:34.08 | fewyn | i didn't think i was going to be a tank |
| 23:34.10 | fewyn | at 85 |
| 23:34.18 | bladework | Stormkitty: dogel would out-do you in court |
| 23:34.23 | Stormkitty | I know eh |
| 23:34.28 | Stormkitty | Except I can't get mad at dogel |
| 23:34.30 | Stormkitty | TOO NICE |
| 23:34.51 | bladework | fewyn: yeah, then you're pretty much stuck with going for BoE epix or a guild farm run of raids |
| 23:35.18 | bladework | crafted blues work too, but they don't raise your GS easily enough for HCs |
| 23:35.39 | bladework | you need 316 ilevel, was it? |
| 23:35.47 | Djane | 329 for heroics |
| 23:35.52 | bladework | oh |
| 23:35.53 | bladework | yea |
| 23:35.53 | fewyn | well i can always run normals |
| 23:35.55 | Djane | which you can gimmick without a single epic |
| 23:35.56 | Stormkitty | dogel would beat me with her like, ASIAN SKILLS |
| 23:35.57 | bladework | def epix |
| 23:36.02 | Inc` | fewyn: What class? |
| 23:36.05 | bladework | Djane: but it'd be easier |
| 23:36.05 | fewyn | warrior |
| 23:36.08 | Djane | I was doing heroics on my mage at ilevel 302 |
| 23:36.12 | bladework | Inc`: prot war at that too |
| 23:36.14 | fewyn | http://www.wowhead.com/profile=us.velen.souffl%C3%A9 is the warrior right now |
| 23:36.19 | Djane | Blade, no, just buy the full pvp set |
| 23:36.23 | Domh | If you can get your reps up, there's some decent rep 359's |
| 23:36.23 | bladework | Djane: LOL |
| 23:36.29 | Domh | That's what my pally is working on |
| 23:36.39 | Djane | Will cost 2kish, will give you high enough ilevel |
| 23:36.43 | Stormkitty | Louis C.K., I love you: http://i.imgur.com/eVBBh.jpg |
| 23:36.49 | Inc` | heh, warrior is right up my alley |
| 23:37.24 | bladework | fewyn: http://www.wowhead.com/forums&topic=176355&p=2578955 |
| 23:39.34 | Inc` | fewyn: If you can afford them, bs epics are quickest way to help out |
| 23:39.39 | fewyn | the problem with said list is it lists quests and normal mode |
| 23:40.04 | fewyn | i've done the quests that reward tank gear and i picked dps gear instead :( |
| 23:40.08 | bladework | fewyn: yea, looking more at the normal modes |
| 23:40.09 | Stormkitty | bladework check out how awesome the BC Conservatives are: http://www.theprovince.com/life/Gays+should+have+special+protection+Conservative+Cummins+says/4771653/story.html |
| 23:40.21 | Stormkitty | Anti-gay party running in BRITISH COLUMBIA |
| 23:40.24 | fewyn | going to have to go to ah |
| 23:40.24 | Inc` | The belt is awesome for prot, chest not super awesome but decent until tier chest |
| 23:40.25 | Stormkitty | yeah that'll work out well |
| 23:40.26 | fewyn | and buy shit |
| 23:40.31 | Domh | You could get a darkmoon card: earthquake to up your gs for heroics, until you can get a better 346 |
| 23:40.34 | fewyn | i spent 75k earlier today tho |
| 23:40.37 | Inc` | you will need to buy crossfire carbine |
| 23:40.47 | fewyn | yeah epics are out of my price range |
| 23:40.47 | fewyn | atm |
| 23:40.57 | Inc` | carbine only runs 5-12k |
| 23:41.00 | fewyn | i spent *all my gold* |
| 23:41.02 | fewyn | no |
| 23:41.04 | Inc` | ouch |
| 23:41.05 | Domh | Could probably bribe Noxy. I think we have one ot those in the gbank |
| 23:41.06 | fewyn | i spent ALL MY GOLD |
| 23:41.14 | fewyn | i bought a crimson deathcharger |
| 23:41.17 | Inc` | go farm the mats for the bs stuff then |
| 23:41.32 | bladework | Stormkitty: he's not anti-gay, he's just stupid |
| 23:41.32 | Inc` | and hopefully you can find a bs willing to give away orbs super cheap |
| 23:41.48 | fewyn | we don't have any bs in our guild :( |
| 23:41.48 | Inc` | other than that, your best bet will be running regulars |
| 23:41.58 | fewyn | yeah i'm going to have to buy blues off the ah |
| 23:41.59 | Stormkitty | bladework, and just think, he's their LEADER |
| 23:41.59 | Inc` | and your gear isn't too bad to do that, just need a shield :P |
| 23:41.59 | Domh | . . . you have a BS! |
| 23:42.00 | fewyn | it looks like |
| 23:42.02 | bladework | fewyn: NICE |
| 23:42.04 | bladework | NIIICE |
| 23:42.08 | Inc` | how much gold are we talkinga bout? |
| 23:42.16 | fewyn | i have like 5k |
| 23:42.17 | Inc` | the bs shield is usually pretty cheap |
| 23:42.21 | fewyn | but i have like 75k worth of shit on the ah |
| 23:42.36 | fewyn | http://theunderminejournal.com/seller.php?realm=A-Velen&seller=Fawyn |
| 23:42.45 | Inc` | bs shield is running 3.5k on my server |
| 23:42.58 | Inc` | http://www.wowhead.com/item=55069 |
| 23:42.59 | fewyn | i'll have to take a look after i finish my dailies |
| 23:43.10 | bladework | Q.Q |
| 23:43.59 | Domh | fewyn, any idea why our realm has so many naked dancing night elves this week? |
| 23:44.09 | fewyn | nope |
| 23:44.14 | Stormkitty | sigh, another 2 paycheques until I've put the $200 I had to take out of my savings back in |
| 23:49.33 | Inc` | bladework: you still playing? |
| 23:49.38 | bladework | Domh: because Noxy willed it so? |
| 23:50.07 | bladework | Inc`: no, don't have a computer that can run WoW, building one atm, but the video card was dead on arrival, so I have to get it replaced this weekend |
| 23:50.24 | Inc` | ah, and ouch on the gpu |
| 23:50.25 | Inc` | which one? |
| 23:50.35 | bladework | GeForce GTX 560 Ti |
| 23:50.43 | Inc` | yikes |
| 23:50.47 | bladework | ? |
| 23:50.47 | Inc` | rma or returning? |
| 23:50.54 | bladework | RMA |
| 23:50.59 | Inc` | which vendor? |
| 23:51.04 | bladework | Canada Computers |
| 23:51.14 | Inc` | er by vendor i mean gpu vendor |
| 23:51.17 | bladework | oh |
| 23:51.18 | bladework | PNY |
| 23:51.24 | bladework | never heard of them |
| 23:51.29 | bladework | shrugs |
| 23:51.31 | Inc` | they are ok |
| 23:51.47 | bladework | why yikes? |
| 23:51.56 | Inc` | that's a nice card to have doa |
| 23:52.04 | bladework | huh |
| 23:52.23 | bladework | I was debating 6870 or 560Ti actually |
| 23:52.39 | bladework | 6970 or 590 is a bit pricy for me |
| 23:52.43 | bladework | ... |
| 23:52.44 | Inc` | yikes as in sorry to hear that it came doa |
| 23:52.53 | bladework | yea, I got that |
| 23:53.43 | bladework | I'll get the whole system checked out, Bios boot-up screen says no hard drives detected, but OS runs fine |
| 23:53.55 | bladework | first time building a computer on my own |
| 23:54.02 | bladework | so I might have done something wrong |
| 23:54.22 | bladework | it's also detecting only 4GB out of 8GB of RAM |
| 23:54.23 | Inc` | if the os runs fine then there is probably just some config issue in the bios |
| 23:54.29 | Inc` | the os or the bios? |
| 23:54.34 | bladework | the OS |
| 23:54.38 | Inc` | 64bit? |
| 23:54.41 | bladework | Bios says 8GB |
| 23:54.47 | bladework | hmm |
| 23:54.51 | bladework | didn't check what bit |
| 23:54.57 | bladework | I was going to replace the OS anyways |
| 23:54.57 | Inc` | you'll only see 4gb if it's 32 |
| 23:55.01 | bladework | ah |
| 23:55.15 | bladework | I only installed a Win XP for testing |
| 23:55.31 | bladework | I'll have it running Win7 and Ubuntu |
| 23:55.37 | bladework | on separate HDDs |
| 23:55.39 | Inc` | that'll do it then |
| 23:55.44 | Sephiroth | You gotta go 64-bit to see the whole 8GB |
| 23:55.50 | bladework | thanks |
| 23:56.24 | bladework | what's the difference in SATA 6G and 3G? |
| 23:56.27 | bladework | other than speed? |
| 23:56.46 | Inc` | nothing |
| 23:57.02 | bladework | also, do I put SATA in IDE, AHCI or RAID mode? I changed it from AHCI to IDE, but that's just for win XP |
| 23:57.06 | Inc` | just means you'll get faster potential thoroughput, if the drive supports it (aka is fast enough) |
| 23:57.13 | Inc` | ahci is ideal |
| 23:57.16 | bladework | mm |
| 23:57.18 | bladework | thanks |
| 23:57.27 | Inc` | don't need raid unless you are raiding drives |
| 23:57.46 | bladework | I have NEVER dealt with DDR3 motherboards |
| 23:57.49 | bladework | only DDR2 |
| 23:57.49 | Inc` | and even then, mobo raid controllers are usually pretty crappy |
| 23:57.50 | bladework | lol |
| 23:58.10 | Inc` | i wouldn't say it's ddr3 specific, it's just newer |
| 23:58.18 | bladework | ... I probably should have researched this better before I built the computer |
| 23:58.34 | Inc` | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:58.37 | bladework | last custom computer I built with my dad was 5-10 years ago |
| 23:58.40 | Inc` | it's easy to find info on stuff with the internet |
| 23:58.41 | bladework | I don't recall |
| 23:58.43 | Inc` | and how to fix it |
| 23:59.08 | Inc` | unless you did something stupid like bought ddr2 for a ddr3 mobo or bought a psu too weak you'll be fine |
| 23:59.15 | bladework | yea, I've fixed about 3-4 problems on my own, that the manual didn't tell me, but still have some issues |
| 23:59.42 | bladework | I have a corsair 600W because they were out of 700W |
| 23:59.52 | bladework | should be fine with 1 GPU |
