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| 00:58.10 | Gunrun | Russian get an ATI HD5870 |
| 00:58.40 | Gunrun | nn |
| 01:05.02 | Stormkitty | No way mang |
| 01:05.05 | Stormkitty | HD6990 |
| 01:05.06 | Stormkitty | or bust |
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| 01:18.27 | Morril | best raiding music ever www.soundcloud.com/Morril |
| 01:18.28 | Morril | :O |
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| 01:34.05 | kullervo | seems to cap at like... 50 yards |
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| 02:31.39 | Cyoor | Any admin for wowhead here? |
| 02:31.54 | Cyoor | fewyn: there? |
| 02:32.11 | Cyoor | Anyway.. |
| 02:32.13 | fewyn | ? |
| 02:32.16 | Cyoor | http://www.wowhead.com/item=13335 is down again |
| 02:32.32 | Cyoor | I messaged you about it 2 days ago, and you reset it serverside and it got fixed |
| 02:32.36 | fewyn | yeah |
| 02:32.37 | Cyoor | now it bugs again |
| 02:32.39 | fewyn | did it again |
| 02:32.42 | fewyn | i'm opening a ticket |
| 02:32.47 | Cyoor | ok |
| 02:33.04 | Cyoor | Thanks again :) |
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| 02:56.27 | JunkPhone | yo |
| 02:57.02 | JunkPhone | hey i got a question. anyone here have a playstation 2? |
| 02:58.15 | JunkPhone | i mainly want to know about backward compatibility. |
| 02:59.15 | fedorared | Neato Archy reminds me when I should visit the archeology trainer |
| 03:00.32 | JunkPhone | i need to do archaeology on my druid.:( |
| 03:02.21 | fedorared | I am doing so right now given he's my alchemist. |
| 03:04.25 | JunkPhone | same. |
| 03:04.42 | JunkPhone | ive done it once though. it sucks. |
| 03:18.24 | kullervo | and in the end, alliance failed hard, but horde sucked more and lost |
| 03:18.48 | fewyn | [23:18:30] [80:Soufflé] has earned the achievement [Level 80] |
| 03:23.27 | hrist | gz |
| 03:23.42 | fewyn | 5 more levels and that'll be 85 number 9 |
| 03:23.53 | hrist | Morril: haha we're listening to your soundcloud now while programming |
| 03:24.10 | hrist | geez, I'm currently leveling my 5th char >80 (83 now) |
| 03:34.29 | fewyn | http://is.gd/bvWBmt |
| 03:35.32 | hrist | impressive |
| 03:35.50 | hrist | I don't think I'd have the patience to do that |
| 03:36.22 | fewyn | i'm probably slightly insane |
| 03:36.26 | hrist | hehe |
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| 03:36.40 | hrist | my problem is that I don't like northrend from 68 to 78 |
| 03:37.00 | hrist | I love storm peaks tho |
| 03:38.52 | Stormkitty | Northrend is basically fail until Storm Peaks |
| 03:40.04 | fewyn | i hate northrend period |
| 03:40.11 | fewyn | i shoveled it down my throat today and yesterday |
| 03:40.43 | fewyn | 3 levels borean, 3 levels dragonblight, 2 levels sholazar, 1.5 levels stormpeaks, .5 levels icecrown |
| 03:40.57 | fewyn | couldn't stand the ending half of the thorim chain and the quests out of frosthold |
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| 03:50.38 | jonn | anyone know the max level professions or first aid you can get at lvl 70? |
| 03:57.03 | bladekitty | I think primary and secondary professions have different level req |
| 03:57.08 | bladekitty | let me check |
| 03:58.29 | bladekitty | http://www.wowhead.com/spell=74522 Skinning 425 req level 75 |
| 03:58.44 | bladekitty | err |
| 03:58.55 | bladekitty | requires 425 to learn |
| 03:59.01 | bladekitty | not max 425 |
| 03:59.13 | bladekitty | http://www.wowhead.com/spell=74522 req 350 and level 55 |
| 03:59.19 | bladekitty | err |
| 03:59.20 | bladekitty | http://www.wowhead.com/spell=50305 |
| 03:59.21 | bladekitty | this link |
| 03:59.37 | bladekitty | so max you can get at 70 for primary professions is 450 |
| 04:00.18 | bladekitty | http://www.wowhead.com/spell=45542 |
| 04:00.21 | bladekitty | first aid |
| 04:00.33 | bladekitty | requires level 65 and 350 skill |
| 04:00.36 | bladekitty | max 450 |
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| 04:03.17 | jonn | bladekitty: can you get embersilk bandages do you think? |
| 04:03.45 | jonn | even though theyre cata bandages >_> |
| 04:04.02 | bladekitty | Embersilk Bandage |
| 04:04.02 | bladekitty | Requires First Aid (425) |
| 04:04.03 | bladekitty | yea |
| 04:04.09 | bladekitty | 425 < 450 |
| 04:04.09 | jonn | thats op at level 70 |
| 04:04.12 | jonn | more than your entire health |
| 04:07.26 | bladekitty | http://verydemotivational.memebase.com/2011/03/18/demotivational-posters-got-that-bitch-a-collar/ |
| 04:07.34 | bladekitty | sfw but I wouldn't do it while boss is watching |
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| 04:30.52 | jonn | mmm |
| 04:31.02 | jonn | my wow keeps crashing randomly with "not enough storage available" |
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| 08:56.09 | Djane | Something is very wrong with my internet. |
| 08:56.18 | Djane | My upload is faster than my download. |
| 08:56.58 | Djane | 4.06mb/sec DL, 4.46mb/sec upload. |
| 09:00.41 | Goofy- | Djane, that is rare but not unheard of |
| 09:00.48 | Goofy- | Some ISPs are just like that |
| 09:00.54 | Djane | ;| |
| 09:00.58 | Djane | I'm on a 50mbit line |
| 09:01.05 | Djane | And pulling 4.06Mbps |
| 09:01.21 | Djane | The upload is about right. |
| 09:01.32 | Goofy- | I think there is something wrong with your internet |
| 09:01.33 | Goofy- | :P |
| 09:01.40 | Djane | (mb/sec should of == Mbps earlier) |
| 09:02.05 | Djane | I'll have a whine at the network admin after they get back from church, then. |
| 09:02.30 | Djane | Meanwhile i shall download heretical philopshy and porn, or something, to be all hipster rebellious. |
| 09:03.28 | Goofy- | I got kicked out from a dungeon for needing on an item with spirit when my tallents make spirit into hit >.< lol |
| 09:03.50 | Djane | spriest? |
| 09:04.29 | Goofy- | What's that |
| 09:04.38 | Djane | Shadow priest. |
| 09:04.48 | Goofy- | Oh |
| 09:04.50 | Goofy- | Druid |
| 09:04.59 | Djane | Did you need on cloth? |
| 09:05.05 | Goofy- | Leather |
| 09:05.19 | Djane | Then who knows. |
| 09:05.28 | Juippis | and who else might've needed this leather spirit shit |
| 09:05.52 | Goofy- | [Balance of Power] turns Spirit into hit so how was it a ninja |
| 09:05.54 | Djane | (in b34 the healer) |
| 09:05.59 | Djane | -3 |
| 09:06.06 | Goofy- | And the only other one with leather was the rouge |
| 09:06.07 | Juippis | oh well, you will find the most stupidest persons in random dungeons |
| 09:06.07 | Djane | Were you the only druid? |
| 09:06.22 | Goofy- | Only 2 people in there with leather. Me and a rouge |
| 09:06.30 | Djane | yeah that's people being stupid. |
| 09:06.43 | Djane | Did you get your item? |
| 09:06.47 | Goofy- | Yes |
| 09:06.50 | Djane | \o/ |
| 09:06.56 | Juippis | :) |
| 09:06.57 | Djane | Consider it a victory, then. |
| 09:07.18 | Djane | Juippis, am I a bad person for doing 2v2 arena purely to get 365 boots for my mage for pve? |
| 09:07.27 | Juippis | no |
| 09:07.35 | Juippis | t2 weapon > most pve weapons |
| 09:07.36 | Goofy- | The funny thingis I'm the kind of person if I win an item and you ask me for it nicely I'd give it to you unless if it's something I REALLY need |
| 09:07.46 | Djane | Yeah, the weapons are a little too much work. |
| 09:07.49 | Goofy- | Like new bracers for my mage >.< |
| 09:07.50 | Djane | The boots was like, 6 wins. |
| 09:08.04 | Juippis | it's fine |
| 09:08.12 | Djane | I was using 318's before hand, boots are 365, sure resilience is wasted |
| 09:08.24 | Goofy- | ooo speaking of boots I need to do my daily random |
| 09:08.33 | Goofy- | I need 2 more dailies for my boots |
| 09:09.05 | Goofy- | Any tips on Druid tanking? |
| 09:09.12 | Juippis | maul n' swipe |
| 09:09.29 | Goofy- | I'm moreless focused on the healing aspect of it but I'd like to tank a little for quicker queues |
| 09:10.12 | Goofy- | Juippis what aboutthe gear, that's what I'm wondering about |
| 09:10.29 | Djane | crit n haste |
| 09:10.40 | Djane | dont' tank heroics until you're rocking 333's everywhere |
| 09:10.57 | Djane | Bind your taunts to something, you'll need them. |
| 09:11.10 | Goofy- | Nah, cata bears suck :P In cata I'd be healing |
| 09:11.25 | Djane | Errr |
| 09:11.30 | Djane | Then why ask for tips... |
| 09:11.41 | Juippis | it was a heat of the moment |
| 09:11.49 | Goofy- | The comment was on the heroic tip |
| 09:11.55 | Djane | Everything else is roflstomp. |
| 09:12.02 | Djane | You can solo anything noncata. |
| 09:13.12 | Goofy- | I don't think I ever seen leather with dodge, is there an atribute that gets counted as dodge/parry for druids latter on? |
| 09:13.23 | Djane | Crit |
| 09:13.35 | Djane | Crit gives you savage defence |
| 09:13.39 | Djane | Which gives you absorvs. |
| 09:13.40 | Djane | b |
| 09:14.04 | Djane | Well, all melee stats really. |
| 09:14.18 | Djane | Haste makes you swing faster, crit more often. Expertise and hit make you hit more often, more crit, more SD. |
| 09:14.29 | Djane | I don't know the priorities or which one provides the most survivability though |
| 09:15.12 | Goofy- | I'm just going to be tanking a little in vanila/bc I don't think I'd do much in LK and none in cata |
| 09:15.31 | Goofy- | This is going to be my healer, DPS for my mage, and tank for my DK |
| 09:15.45 | Goofy- | just hit 360 item level on my DK last night (-: |
| 09:15.52 | Djane | Juippis, for mages, the pvp staff is BiS if you go down the 2handed road. |
| 09:16.30 | Djane | Outside of lolcheology that is. |
| 09:16.57 | Goofy- | hmm I actually haven't been looking for an upgrade for my staff |
| 09:17.03 | Goofy- | Which is odd |
| 09:17.13 | Djane | 1hd+OH is the way to go. |
| 09:18.11 | Goofy- | I dislike doing that. I usually forget to equip the offhand when I am done with what ever (fishing pole or what ever I might of been using) |
| 09:18.27 | Djane | Sure, but minmaxing is king. |
| 09:18.43 | Djane | For a mage, you definitely want MH+OH |
| 09:18.56 | Djane | Because you only have 3 remotely usable staffs, all of which are an arse to get. |
| 09:19.05 | Djane | 1)Archaelogy staff. Fuck that shit. |
| 09:19.17 | Djane | 2)Chelleys whatever of whatever. The BoE healing staff. Reforge spirit to useful stat. |
| 09:19.20 | Djane | 3)Pvp staff |
| 09:19.54 | Djane | 1)millions of hours of time investment, 2)10-20k gold, 3)Some actual competence in pvp or a lot of persistance, either way 3 weeks of grind. |
| 09:20.26 | Djane | Wheras a MH+OH can be got from heroics which is about 0.4% below 2+3 in dps, and about 1.5% below 1. But then, ilevel 346 so... |
| 09:20.35 | Djane | MH+OH 359's are easily BiS. |
| 09:20.48 | Goofy- | I am actually going to start Archaoelogy so you don't know :P I also do enjoy PVP and I'm not spending 20k on a staff |
| 09:21.17 | Djane | You're looking at three and a half k conquest points for the staff, it's reasonable but really not the optimal upgrade path for pvp |
| 09:21.26 | Djane | Archeaology, Yeah. Not going to happen. |
| 09:21.35 | Djane | You will literally need to invest 50-100 hours on it. |
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| 09:21.41 | Goofy- | I think I might have a heroic offhand incase if I get a decent 1 handed |
| 09:21.51 | Djane | Biting sword from vortex pinnacle iirc. |
| 09:21.54 | Djane | I assume you're fire? |
| 09:22.27 | Goofy- | No, Arcane. I'm going Arcane because of the next patch so I can need on Arcane gear |
| 09:22.59 | Djane | Sorry, biting wind. |
| 09:23.05 | Djane | Yeah, arcane will still suck btw :p |
| 09:23.37 | Djane | Either way |
| 09:23.38 | Djane | Biting wind |
| 09:23.47 | Djane | From Grand Vizier Etan in vortex pinnacle |
| 09:23.55 | Djane | First boss iirc. |
| 09:24.35 | Goofy- | Thanks I'll take note of that |
| 09:24.37 | Goofy- | :D |
| 09:25.21 | Goofy- | I need to get some sleep thanks Juippis and Djane |
| 09:25.28 | Djane | Welcome |
| 09:26.30 | Goofy- | Oh does anyone know of an addon that will let me use extra action bars AND mount it somehow to the screen to keep it in somewhat of the same spot when I resize? |
| 09:26.50 | Djane | I'm not sure exactly what you mean |
| 09:26.58 | Djane | I use bartender myself, though. |
| 09:27.15 | Goofy- | Sometimes I play full screen othertimes maximized windowed |
| 09:27.25 | Goofy- | and other times the game takes up half of my screen |
| 09:27.27 | Goofy- | 1second |
| 09:29.05 | Goofy- | Just for an example |
| 09:29.06 | Goofy- | http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/6260/110320042840.jpg |
| 09:29.12 | Goofy- | When I resize my screen it looks like this |
| 09:29.18 | Djane | You have your buttons there? O.o |
| 09:29.33 | Juippis | is the pvp offhand any good? |
| 09:29.34 | Goofy- | http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/1923/110320042922.jpg |
| 09:29.43 | Djane | Juippis, it's ok. |
| 09:29.44 | Juippis | compared to what's available easily from pve |
| 09:29.47 | Juippis | yeah |
| 09:29.58 | Juippis | I remember using the haste offhand in wotlk before got heroic SSS |
| 09:30.09 | Goofy- | Is there an addon somehow that will not change it like that when you resize |
| 09:30.13 | Djane | It has crit on it, which is nice. |
| 09:30.22 | Djane | Juippis, there's a 346 craftable for pve, so... |
| 09:30.30 | Djane | Let me check the two pieces comparatively. |
| 09:31.00 | Djane | Nah, it's not really worth it. |
| 09:31.19 | Djane | The 346 craftable and the drop you'd want both have hit on it, which is a fantastic stat for gearing up. |
| 09:31.36 | Juippis | well the thing is, how big are the differences |
| 09:31.43 | Juippis | because for me its easy to get the pvp one |
| 09:31.51 | Djane | You're short 32 int, but you gain a full 120 of a secondary stat. |
| 09:31.52 | Juippis | but if the pve one is much better of course I need to use it |
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| 09:32.29 | Djane | Well, the pve one will just cost you a bit of gold. |
| 09:32.34 | Djane | since there's a craftable available. |
| 09:32.40 | Djane | So i consider that easier to get than even the pvp one. |
| 09:33.07 | Djane | There's also a justice points one, too. |
| 09:33.16 | Djane | (which is BiS for mages, at least) |
| 09:33.25 | Juippis | mm yeah, gold either isn't a problem. Just that do I want to spend millions if the stat difference isn't too huge :P |
| 09:33.36 | Djane | Oh, it should only cost you a couple hundred gold. |
| 09:33.50 | Juippis | ahh |
| 09:33.56 | Juippis | I thought everything was expensive in cata |
| 09:33.59 | Djane | Well, your server may vary. |
| 09:34.12 | Djane | But any more than 500 would be peculiar, 1000 an utter rip off. |
| 09:34.31 | Juippis | + probably someone in my guild could do it |
| 09:34.31 | Djane | And as I said, you can just get the justice points one which is probably better for you anyways |
| 09:34.31 | robokitty | meows |
| 09:34.38 | Djane | Yeah, exactly Juippis. Morning robokitty. |
| 09:34.53 | Djane | The vendor one is Haste+hit, the craftable is mastery+hit. |
| 09:34.53 | Juippis | morning robo~o |
| 09:35.09 | Juippis | but then again I don't even want to play pve that much |
| 09:35.11 | Zicon | bananas djane |
| 09:35.12 | Juippis | just the guild pressure |
| 09:35.16 | Goofy- | Wait the vender what? |
| 09:35.26 | Goofy- | for a mage, right? |
| 09:35.40 | Juippis | should be good for druids as well? |
| 09:35.44 | Goofy- | Where do you get that |
| 09:35.48 | Djane | Justice points. |
| 09:35.52 | Djane | Zicon, you're up early? |
| 09:36.02 | Zicon | djane: This is not early. |
| 09:36.04 | Djane | Juippis, yeah. |
| 09:36.08 | Djane | Oh yeah, you're in the future. |
| 09:36.25 | Djane | Can we get breakfast and then Eldar some Hummies in the face? |
| 09:36.46 | Zicon | Also orcs. Not orks, but orcs. |
| 09:37.00 | Djane | Yes. We can discuss orcs whilst killing Orks. |
| 09:37.09 | robokitty | :| |
| 09:37.27 | Zicon | Speaking of, I don't think I've synced by laptop back yet. Will have to do that. |
| 09:37.35 | Djane | Heh. |
| 09:37.44 | Djane | But yes, I'm off to find trousers and cereal. |
| 09:37.58 | Djane | zelda item received's. |
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| 09:55.07 | Djane | Guys. |
| 09:55.09 | Djane | new favourite game. |
| 09:55.10 | Djane | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AL-25TrqEOY |
| 09:55.11 | Djane | Clearly. |
| 09:57.20 | robokitty | |: |
| 09:59.00 | Djane | BOAT BOAT BOAT BOAT. |
| 10:04.19 | robokitty | oh for fucks sake |
| 10:04.36 | robokitty | stop with the "Enter master password" shit |
| 10:05.00 | Djane | Huh? |
| 10:05.12 | robokitty | "That email address is already a unified login. Please provide the master password to merge your accounts. If you're unsure what your master password is, try using the password from one of these accounts" |
| 10:05.26 | Djane | Oh. |
| 10:06.05 | robokitty | I really like that the link to "provide the master password" doesn't actually work until you've logged in |
| 10:06.32 | Djane | D'oh. |
| 10:07.37 | Zicon | What service is this? |
| 10:08.18 | robokitty | Wowhead |
| 10:08.36 | robokitty | Someone was WRONG on the forum, but fuck me if I can tell him that he is |
| 10:09.31 | Djane | Heh |
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| 10:11.18 | robokitty | http://www.wowhead.com/forums&topic=185371&p=2578549#p2578549 <- I'll bet a Chaos Orb that he hasn't checked the box to exclude recipes from the opposite faction |
| 10:11.59 | robokitty | or.. unchecked the box that includes them |
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| 10:20.53 | Djane | http://tokyohackerspace.org/en/japan-in-crisis |
| 10:23.00 | hylje | it's a crisis now? |
| 10:23.21 | Djane | ... |
| 10:24.04 | Djane | Please explain, how exactly a combination of a massive earthquake, a tsunami and potential nuclear exposure ever constituted anything less than a crisis? |
| 10:26.11 | hylje | just some time ago it was "hey, we prepared for this even if it's a little more severe than anticipated, we'll be ok" |
| 10:26.34 | Djane | I assume you're referring singularly to the nuclear portion of this, which is true. |
| 10:26.51 | Djane | Kind of ignoring the ten thousand dead people, the millions with food, shelter or clean running water |
| 10:26.56 | Djane | without |
| 10:27.35 | Djane | Ahh no, the numbers have been revised. |
| 10:27.43 | Djane | Only 400,000 people without proper food, shelter and water. |
| 10:27.55 | robokitty | 20k missing or confirmed dead |
| 10:28.17 | Djane | Mhmm |
| 10:28.29 | robokitty | also, I think the borderline for crisis was somewhere before they had two nuclear reactors going rogue |
| 10:28.36 | Djane | Somewhat, yes. |
| 10:29.16 | hylje | the whole nukular thing is "if we don't cool them down we'll lose the plants and they won't produce any power any longer" |
| 10:29.25 | hylje | err, any power ever |
| 10:29.32 | Djane | Meltdown is still a risk. |
| 10:29.46 | hylje | which means total loss of plant |
| 10:29.54 | robokitty | I've sort of given up on trying to keep track of that |
| 10:30.08 | Djane | Radioactive contamination has been found in food and produce from the entire fukushima province, additionally. |
| 10:30.10 | robokitty | because you have 7 different "experts" saying 7 different things are happening |
| 10:30.29 | robokitty | I prefer sticking my head in the sand and enjoy the blissfull ignorance |
| 10:30.34 | Djane | Mhmm |
| 10:30.41 | hylje | radioactive materials have been in the steam they produce from forcibly cooling down the reactors |
| 10:30.58 | hylje | it's a less bad thing to release some radioactivity than it is to lose a plant |
| 10:31.12 | Djane | Yes. But that's such a minor part of the whole thing. |
| 10:31.56 | robokitty | also, what the heck happened to the car? :| |
| 10:32.45 | hylje | destroyed by a japanese nuclear bomb |
| 10:34.19 | robokitty | |: |
| 10:34.36 | hylje | the reactors are getting their power supply restored for good "as early as Sunday" so that's that |
| 10:34.36 | robokitty | also, well played ITV |
| 10:35.01 | robokitty | 200 episodes of Midsummer Murders later, they finally realise that there are people with different coloured skin |
| 10:35.12 | hylje | Radiation levels have increased above the federal governmentâs level in some food products from the Fukushima Prefecture and nearby areas. These levels were detected in samples of milk in Fukushima Prefecture and six samples of spinach in neighboring Ibaraki Prefecture, according to the Japan Atomic Industrial Forum. Edano said that if these products are consumed for a year, the total radiation dose would be equivalent to one CT scan. |
| 10:35.20 | hylje | yeah, that's pretty dangeous shit |
| 10:35.31 | robokitty | ^^ |
| 10:36.06 | hylje | EAT JAPANESE SPINACH <advice nuclear engineer> PASS ON CT SCAN |
| 10:36.10 | Djane | robokitty, yeah, that controversy is hilarious. |
| 10:36.22 | robokitty | This has the potential to rival the volcanic ash in terms of overhyping |
| 10:36.23 | Djane | They're like, "but it doesn't fit the rural english village" |
| 10:36.42 | robokitty | (although the ash did fuck up some engines more than others) |
| 10:36.45 | hylje | volcanic ash legitimately destroys jet engines |
| 10:37.10 | robokitty | A shame the supervolcano didn't go off though |
| 10:37.39 | robokitty | would have been fairly amusing for about 5 minutes, just watching everything and everyone panicking |
| 10:37.49 | Djane | That it would. |
| 10:38.12 | robokitty | I mean, considering that people were talking 50+ years of volcanic ash and all |
| 10:39.21 | robokitty | still no password in my email inbox :< |
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| 11:03.21 | robokitty | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12797471 FFFFFUUUU |
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| 11:19.47 | robokitty | oh for fucks sake wowhead |
| 11:23.57 | Stormkitty | robo no, hilarious would be the Yellowstone Volcano erupting |
| 11:24.00 | Stormkitty | Problem, America? |
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| 13:20.13 | robokitty | grrrrrrrrrrrrrr |
| 13:20.21 | robokitty | *stabs Blizzard in the face with a spork* |
| 13:22.00 | Stormkitty | ahahaha, of course the AI that's the black guy would win the basketball stunt game in Flatout 2. |
| 13:29.33 | Juippis | Stormkitty: :P |
| 13:29.45 | Stormkitty | Juippis I damn near burst out laughing |
| 13:29.48 | Stormkitty | when I saw which AI won |
| 13:29.54 | Stormkitty | "wait... THE BLACK GUY?" |
| 13:30.03 | Juippis | I hate the basketball bonus stage |
| 13:30.20 | Stormkitty | I hate the field goal one |
| 13:30.20 | Stormkitty | the most |
| 13:31.08 | Stormkitty | Basketball one is pretty much you'll always get 2nd unless you can master getting the 9 and 10 point hoops |
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| 13:33.05 | Juippis | I get like, 1 good throw and fail the others |
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| 13:33.41 | Juippis | or one medicore |
| 13:33.44 | Juippis | not even good |
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| 13:44.03 | Stormkitty | the secret angle |
| 13:44.06 | Stormkitty | is 60 degrees |
| 13:44.17 | Stormkitty | to get the 2 7s and the 8 hoops |
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| 13:49.47 | kullervo | Remember the mantrain comic strip I linked earlier? |
| 13:49.55 | kullervo | My sister found an animated version and bookmarked it |
| 13:49.57 | kullervo | I am so proud |
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| 15:43.17 | Jolt | Mew~ :D |
| 15:48.24 | kullervo | Didn't microsoft have some fancy gadget that makes 3d objects / animations out of a bunch of photos? |
| 15:48.57 | Stormkitty | idk but putting in a 7th case fan |
| 15:49.01 | Stormkitty | made my CPU idle at 25C now |
| 15:49.05 | Stormkitty | instead of 27C |
| 15:49.10 | kullervo | >_> |
| 15:49.21 | kullervo | well thanks for sharing, mine idles at 35C at best |
| 15:49.45 | kullervo | maybe the heatsink's poorly attached |
| 15:49.46 | Mowsey | mine idles at ~76C |
| 15:49.47 | Stormkitty | heh, the 6 core Phenom IIs seem to idle really cold |
| 15:49.57 | Stormkitty | like, my 4 core 965 idled at 40C |
| 15:50.00 | Stormkitty | this idles at 25C |
| 15:50.14 | Stormkitty | whoooa, went to 24 for a second |
| 15:50.17 | kullervo | but considering that my HDD idles at 27C |
| 15:50.25 | kullervo | and it's right next to the input fan |
| 15:50.34 | Stormkitty | I've got 3 input fans |
| 15:50.38 | Stormkitty | and 4 exhaust |
| 15:50.44 | kullervo | I wish I had a proper case |
| 15:50.52 | Stormkitty | How many case fans can it have? |
| 15:50.54 | kullervo | should've done more research in that department |
| 15:50.54 | Stormkitty | 2? |
| 15:50.57 | kullervo | 3 |
| 15:51.00 | Stormkitty | ugh |
| 15:51.09 | kullervo | I might drill more holes |
| 15:51.14 | Stormkitty | Mine can have up to 9, but realistically you can only install 7 |
| 15:51.25 | kullervo | two more in the side for 12cm fans and add an extra round 14cm fan on the top |
| 15:51.40 | kullervo | (the top one is there already) |
| 15:51.47 | Stormkitty | Thing is very quiet for having 9 fans in it :P |
| 15:51.57 | kullervo | yeah you can have them at low RPMs |
| 15:52.03 | Stormkitty | course I cheated and used 1200rpm fans |
| 15:52.08 | Stormkitty | and 1 1600rpm fan |
| 15:52.13 | Stormkitty | all sleeve bearings |
| 15:52.36 | kullervo | if I had the choise now I'd get a case with the PSU at the bottom and a FUCKTON of slots for fans |
| 15:52.45 | Stormkitty | I hate PSU at bottom cases |
| 15:52.48 | Stormkitty | they drive me batty |
| 15:52.53 | kullervo | it's a great design |
| 15:53.09 | Stormkitty | not for where my computer sits |
| 15:53.26 | kullervo | you can stack all the cords out of the way because the stuff's closer to the PSU |
| 15:53.48 | kullervo | and the CPU exhaust will be right at the top so there'll be no loss |
| 15:54.15 | kullervo | the GPU seems to idle at 43C |
| 15:54.22 | kullervo | but, considering all this crap is overclocked like FUCK |
| 15:54.25 | Stormkitty | Which sensor? |
| 15:54.36 | kullervo | er, the GPU sensor? |
| 15:54.47 | Stormkitty | Also, like, every video card made in the last 3 years underclocks when not doing anything |
| 15:55.00 | kullervo | yeah |
| 15:55.13 | Stormkitty | my video card has 3 sensors kuller :P |
| 15:55.16 | kullervo | but I can't get it to also undervolt because that's different software |
| 15:55.19 | kullervo | oh. Mine only has one |
| 15:55.19 | Stormkitty | DispIO, MemIO and Shader |
| 15:55.21 | kullervo | also I was saying |
| 15:55.37 | kullervo | I could get it to undervolt from the nvidia driver if I installed the overclock module |
| 15:55.49 | Stormkitty | eh don't bother |
| 15:55.57 | Stormkitty | I assume you got CPU power savings on |
| 15:55.58 | kullervo | or was it that it doesn't have a voltage control at all and I could only set it to underclock really damned low |
| 15:56.01 | kullervo | yes |
| 15:56.04 | kullervo | they're enabled and fine |
| 15:56.27 | kullervo | anyway uh... the GPU only goes to like 430MHz like this when I could get it to 100MHz on desktop |
| 15:56.41 | kullervo | that and the vram |
| 15:57.06 | Stormkitty | my Radeon will only go down to 300 on GPU and RAM |
| 15:57.10 | kullervo | but yeah right now I'm not bothering because the last time I tried it didn't work very well |
| 15:57.35 | Stormkitty | What's hilarious though is turning on manual fan control, setting it to 100% and watching how fast GPU temps drop |
| 15:57.37 | kullervo | all temps would go down like whooooo if I had an input fan at the GPU and another exhaust at the top |
| 15:57.51 | kullervo | tbh |
| 15:58.03 | kullervo | I tried setting the case fan to 100% from BIOS |
| 15:58.06 | kullervo | didn't do a damn thing |
| 15:58.24 | kullervo | case fan? CPU fan, the case fans are hardwired right now |
| 15:58.25 | Stormkitty | my GPU fan sounds like a vaccuum cleaner at 100% |
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| 15:58.31 | kullervo | mine as well |
| 15:58.41 | kullervo | and only results in a few degrees of difference compared to like 50% |
| 15:58.46 | kullervo | so it's clearly a case airflow issue |
| 15:59.04 | Stormkitty | GPU temperature dropped to 40C |
| 15:59.05 | Stormkitty | rofl |
| 15:59.06 | Stormkitty | from 46 |
| 15:59.18 | kullervo | in use? |
| 15:59.23 | Stormkitty | no activity |
| 15:59.27 | Stormkitty | I just turned on manual control |
| 15:59.29 | kullervo | oh also, the GPU when playing wow seems to be at 51C |
| 15:59.33 | kullervo | same as the CPU |
| 16:00.33 | kullervo | but I can tell it's getting warmer as the spring advances, my laptop's snuffling too |
| 16:00.47 | Stormkitty | Yeah that's why I installed the extra case fan |
| 16:00.50 | kullervo | which it only did when I was compiling something |
| 16:00.54 | Stormkitty | this video card was installed in December |
| 16:00.54 | kullervo | during winter |
| 16:01.00 | Stormkitty | it hasn't experienced summer yet |
| 16:01.05 | Stormkitty | I know it's gonna be a loud fucker |
| 16:01.25 | kullervo | I'm afraid I'll have to underclock this stuff during summer if I can't get the fans sorted out |
| 16:01.43 | Stormkitty | Be a pro |
| 16:01.46 | Stormkitty | watercool that shit |
| 16:01.51 | kullervo | was just about to say that :P |
| 16:01.57 | kullervo | watercooling it would be the ultimate solution |
| 16:02.12 | Stormkitty | watercool the CPU with a Corsair H70 imo |
| 16:02.27 | kullervo | I was thinking Antec |
| 16:02.34 | kullervo | but, I just bought a Mugen 2 |
| 16:02.36 | Stormkitty | H70 is pretty much the best |
| 16:02.43 | Stormkitty | if you're being cheap |
| 16:02.45 | Stormkitty | and not doing custom |
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| 16:03.15 | kullervo | and really, installing this thing lowered the temps from I don't even know how high to 55C under stress tests |
| 16:03.34 | kullervo | I was afraid to let them run longer than a minute as the temp went towards 70C |
| 16:03.42 | Stormkitty | Alright I'm going to sleep now |
| 16:03.46 | kullervo | ait |
| 16:03.46 | Stormkitty | I should have gone like 2 hours ago |
| 16:03.49 | kullervo | have fun |
| 16:04.03 | kullervo | what time zone are you in, even |
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| 16:11.24 | kullervo | ooh god I just found the Antec Skeleton |
| 16:11.28 | kullervo | looks badass |
| 16:13.58 | kullervo | I'm so getting that for the next computer I build |
| 16:14.12 | kullervo | fuck being practical |
| 16:14.41 | kullervo | mount it on a metal pillar or bolt it to a wall |
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| 17:05.15 | Djane | kullervo, i have one of those lying around a friends house for my next PC build. |
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| 17:31.47 | kullervo | Djane: I reconsidered and will instead weld my own case |
| 17:32.03 | kullervo | because that thing can't fit proper CPU heatsinks |
| 17:32.49 | kullervo | any ATX carcass should do |
| 17:33.36 | kullervo | just to get the mobo screws right |
| 17:34.34 | Djane | Ahhh |
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| 17:35.54 | kullervo | it'll look even more industrial that way |
| 17:36.07 | kullervo | hmm... Yeah I even know people who likely have the tools! |
| 17:37.02 | kullervo | This is a great idea (Y/N) |
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| 17:37.59 | Djane | Y |
| 17:42.34 | kullervo | t4 tanks for instance tend to have some stupidly good rate of fire |
| 17:42.47 | kullervo | ... let's try to hit the correct channel bind this time around |
| 17:44.48 | Gunrun | http://imgur.com/TptIZ |
| 17:45.52 | Juippis | Gunrun: wtf is that |
| 17:46.03 | Gunrun | new resto shaman tallent on the PTR |
| 17:46.10 | Juippis | no I mean |
| 17:46.15 | Juippis | what the fuck IS that |
| 17:46.35 | Gunrun | it makes it so that after the cooldown finishes everyone is at the same % of health |
| 17:46.56 | Gunrun | by hurting people who are v healthy and healing people who are nearly dead |
| 17:47.08 | Juippis | ahh |
| 17:47.13 | Gunrun | say you have 2 people 1 with 25% health 1 with 75% health |
| 17:47.20 | Gunrun | you pop that and at the end they both have 50% health |
| 17:47.37 | Djane | More importantly |
| 17:47.44 | Djane | You have 1 tank at 10% health |
| 17:47.47 | Djane | and 4 melee at 90% health |
| 17:47.52 | Juippis | after explaining Gunrun I get it. Sounds pretty neat |
| 17:48.04 | Djane | Then you have one tank at 50% health, and melee at 50% health(+/- some numbers) |
| 17:48.56 | robokitty | Riptide Tank -> Chain heal off him -> Win meters |
| 17:49.36 | fedorared | 'cept for the holy priest who circles, PoH, plus everyone's standing in the heal |
| 17:54.42 | Djane | Yeah, heh. |
| 17:57.02 | fedorared | Even when I have holy or disc available I'd probably be holy while a shaman tank heals in that setup |
| 17:57.15 | fedorared | Or bring in the default tank healer, a paladin |
| 17:58.09 | kullervo | I wish our healers were that good |
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| 18:19.21 | Icanhasknife | Could someone help me with a few rogue questions? Please and thank you |
| 18:21.36 | Icanhasknife | anyone? |
| 18:22.23 | wink | some things in cata are so /facepalm |
| 18:22.25 | wink | Icanhasknife: sure |
| 18:23.00 | wink | ^ last hyjal quest: rare 288 plate dps boots. 5th deepholme quest: green 289 plate dps boots |
| 18:23.14 | Icanhasknife | I'm a sub rogue, but, I was wondering if it's viable to use Dual Fist Weapons or the like. |
| 18:23.33 | Icanhasknife | or if I should respec combat for that.. |
| 18:26.02 | wink | ugh, sub |
| 18:26.11 | wink | haven't been Sub since TBC, sorry :P |
| 18:26.55 | kullervo | wink: uh how is that facepalm |
| 18:26.57 | kullervo | deepholm is a higher level area |
| 18:26.59 | kullervo | like 83+ |
| 18:27.11 | kullervo | of course the rewards are better |
| 18:27.15 | kullervo | Hyjal can be done on 78+ |
| 18:27.16 | wink | kullervo: it was one example. you instantly replace the stuff ftom the END quests |
| 18:27.26 | wink | kullervo: hyjal quests are 80+ |
| 18:27.27 | fedorared | w |
| 18:27.28 | wink | not 78 |
| 18:27.32 | kullervo | they are? hmm. |
| 18:27.35 | fedorared | well, yeah |
| 18:27.39 | wink | yes, vashjir as well |
| 18:27.44 | kullervo | well, I never tried leveling from any other than lvl 80 |
| 18:27.52 | kullervo | got many enough toons in reserve |
| 18:27.59 | fedorared | It's a gear revolving door until max level |
| 18:28.00 | kullervo | thanks for correcting me |
| 18:28.07 | wink | and in every expansion before you got like 1-2 blues from the zone-end quest that you kept for a few levels |
| 18:28.11 | wink | this one I kept for 1h |
| 18:28.16 | wink | in the _usual_ levelling path |
| 18:28.24 | wink | not some obscure zone skipping |
| 18:28.26 | kullervo | but still, I don't see why you expect to keep the leveling gear |
| 18:28.45 | kullervo | overall I thought better of the catalysm leveling experience than any previous expansion |
| 18:28.55 | wink | it's MUCH more repetive |
| 18:29.02 | wink | 6th time I start Deepholme now |
| 18:29.04 | wink | and I hate it |
| 18:29.08 | kullervo | ... |
| 18:29.13 | kullervo | that's the sixth time you do it |
| 18:29.14 | fedorared | Because you've done it 6 times? |
| 18:29.17 | kullervo | of course it's repetitive at this point |
| 18:29.40 | Icanhasknife | Sorry about the late reply. Thanks anyway wink :) |
| 18:30.15 | kullervo | we have less "bring me 30 pieces of shit" quests and more "run that way and kill whatever you see. Bring me back some items from there, I don't even care what it is" |
| 18:30.37 | kullervo | "don't bother coming back I'll meet you there" |
| 18:30.57 | wink | kullervo: a) it's over too fast, we are <5 minths into cata and I've got 4 at maxlevel and 3 underway. |
| 18:31.05 | wink | and b) you can't really skip Deepholme |
| 18:31.13 | fedorared | Remove your heirlooms, quest slower |
| 18:31.24 | Icanhasknife | take care all, have fun |
| 18:31.27 | kullervo | seriously your arguments make no sense |
| 18:31.35 | wink | I'm just comparing it to Wrath or TBC |
| 18:31.41 | kullervo | I could level from 1 to 80 in a week if I wanted to |
| 18:31.56 | kullervo | but I wouldn't for instance think about complaining about it if I did it 6 times in a row |
| 18:32.48 | wink | I even did it 9x in Wrath |
| 18:32.51 | wink | and I didn't hate it |
| 18:33.15 | wink | because I could skip zones as the rep didn't matter a bit in the end |
| 18:33.15 | kullervo | but OH GOD YOU CANNOT SKIP HELLFIRE |
| 18:33.24 | fedorared | Is it because there's 5 zones and only a couple linear quest paths? |
| 18:33.29 | wink | you're free to disagree :) |
| 18:33.48 | wink | fedorared: yeah. plus you need many rep rewards at this point in time, pre 4.2 |
| 18:34.16 | fedorared | And we need all of their help to defeat the twilight that makes sense |
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| 18:34.25 | kullervo | did you also notice guild reputation is character-based? |
| 18:34.38 | kullervo | blizzard's hinting that people shouldn't roll a hojillion alts |
| 18:34.40 | wink | yeah, but I couldn't care less for that :P |
| 18:34.56 | wink | I don't give a flying fuck what Blizzard is hinting :) I like my army of alts |
| 18:35.04 | wink | they just were more fun to level in Wrath |
| 18:35.16 | kullervo | the only reason I'd consider leveling them would be to become independent of other crafters |
| 18:35.20 | wink | I also strongly disagree with the 10 slots per server limit |
| 18:36.48 | fedorared | Questing in either was interesting |
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| 18:37.00 | fedorared | Wrath had more aw crap I've outleveled this zone |
| 18:38.35 | wink | yeah, but felt free to skip a zone |
| 18:38.39 | wink | usually even more than one |
| 18:39.09 | wink | and you can't just ever skip the first half of a zone :( |
| 18:39.29 | fedorared | Useful for power leveling crappy for story |
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| 18:56.22 | Djane | err what |
| 18:56.33 | Djane | It's easy to exalt out alts. |
| 18:56.52 | jonn | i dont like the new guild system at all |
| 18:58.01 | kullervo | http://kullervo.dy.fi/pub/drop/pic/World_of_Warcraft-2011-03-20_20.57.58.jpg |
| 18:58.02 | kullervo | epic |
| 18:58.04 | kullervo | you can fly up there |
| 18:58.15 | kullervo | should try the high rafters sometime |
| 18:58.47 | kullervo | http://kullervo.dy.fi/pub/drop/pic/World_of_Warcraft-2011-03-20_20.58.40.jpg |
| 18:58.50 | kullervo | there's a chicken up there |
| 18:58.59 | kullervo | you can't even see it from the ground |
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| 19:16.07 | wink | is that normal that Chimaeron only stacks the debuff to 4? |
| 19:30.43 | kullervo | Tentacles that shoot lasers! |
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| 19:34.06 | jonn | which debuff, wink? |
| 19:41.39 | wink | jonn: the -healing, is there another one? |
| 19:46.01 | jonn | wink: during the 2nd phase? |
| 19:46.34 | wink | jonn: no, the normal stacking thingy on the tank(s) |
| 19:46.56 | jonn | i dont recall any debuffs on the tank |
| 19:47.13 | jonn | unless its something they taunt off of eachother |
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| 19:49.09 | fewyn | http://xkcd.com/radiation/ |
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| 21:18.09 | jonn | if you cant reforge it away, what should I do with excess expertise? |
| 21:18.17 | jonn | I cant see a way to get closer to the cap :/ |
| 21:18.28 | fedorared | Get different gear |
| 21:19.01 | jonn | 16 exp is a really low cap |
| 21:20.41 | g0urra | the cap is 26 |
| 21:20.45 | fedorared | 0 dodge 0 parry? |
| 21:20.53 | jonn | not for ret pallys |
| 21:20.53 | g0urra | dodge = 26 expertise |
| 21:20.57 | g0urra | oh yeah |
| 21:21.03 | jonn | you get 10 from your seal glyph |
| 21:21.13 | g0urra | I know. I play a ret paladin. I didn't know you play one |
| 21:21.22 | jonn | and i get 3 from my racial |
| 21:21.38 | jonn | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/scilla/ramin/advanced |
| 21:21.41 | jonn | my ret gear suckssssss :( |
| 21:24.25 | g0urra | http://www.askmrrobot.com/wow/gear/usa/scilla/ramin#v1-z1-o423B5s222 |
| 21:25.35 | jonn | so everything is optimal? o_O |
| 21:25.56 | g0urra | ignore the enchants then, and yeah |
| 21:26.13 | jonn | i dont think my gear is good enough to blow a shitload on enchants |
| 21:26.47 | g0urra | you want a BiS t11 set then? |
| 21:27.00 | jonn | if I get a new 2 hander i will probably put the best enchant on it |
| 21:27.21 | g0urra | click the box next to the item you think you'll have in the end |
| 21:27.29 | g0urra | the BiS item is at the top |
| 21:27.31 | Juippis | enchanting won't bankrupt you |
| 21:27.33 | Juippis | just do it |
| 21:27.36 | g0urra | DO EET |
| 21:27.47 | jonn | theyre like 10k gold enchants |
| 21:27.49 | jonn | fuck that |
| 21:28.15 | jonn | cloak was ~8k for 15 crit |
| 21:28.37 | g0urra | that's why you can choose "Exclude Expensive Stuff" |
| 21:29.32 | jonn | oh, that's what I thought you meant when you said my enchants werent optimal |
| 21:30.25 | g0urra | no, I meant that you can ignore the enchants since they don't increase your ratings |
| 21:30.30 | g0urra | compared to the gear you have now |
| 21:31.31 | jonn | any idea what the rough rep per heroic is? |
| 21:32.03 | jonn | I need 2300 to get my head enchant |
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| 21:52.53 | Gunrun | so LOTRO is redesigning its character panel |
| 21:52.57 | Gunrun | right now it looks like this |
| 21:52.57 | Gunrun | http://content.turbine.com/sites/lorebook.lotro.com/images/uploaded/b/b9/Character_panel.jpg |
| 21:53.08 | Gunrun | http://www.lotro.com/media/article_images/Dev_Diary/Character%20Panel%20Update/image015.jpg they're making it look like this |
| 21:53.13 | Gunrun | where could they have got this idea from |
| 21:53.41 | Juippis | aion? |
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| 21:57.03 | Gunrun | speaking of lotro time to play some lotro |
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| 22:39.44 | g0urra | http://www.theonion.com/video/towns-teenpregnancy-spike-due-to-one-impressive-yo,19275/ |
| 22:43.41 | hrist | jonn: one heroic maybe two, that is if you got the guild-perk for more rep |
| 22:48.49 | kullervo | http://www.wowhead.com/spell=7867 |
| 22:48.58 | kullervo | fewyn: that... doesn't look correct |
| 22:49.27 | fewyn | are you sure? |
| 22:49.38 | fewyn | nope |
| 22:49.40 | fewyn | that's correct |
| 22:49.50 | kullervo | it CLEARLY does not require lvl 425 |
| 22:50.02 | fewyn | kullervo: http://is.gd/9feIdQ |
| 22:50.08 | fewyn | oh i thought you meant something else |
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| 23:17.15 | kullervo | http://kullervo.dy.fi/pub/drop/pic/SS-2011-03-21_01.14.09.png |
| 23:17.19 | kullervo | http://kullervo.dy.fi/pub/drop/pic/SS-2011-03-21_01.14.22.png |
| 23:17.26 | kullervo | the textures aren't reasonable on any possible level |
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| 23:25.24 | kullervo | isn't the later shield supposed to be new in cata? |
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| 23:35.05 | njoos | but its an old model kullervo |
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