IRC log for #wowhead on 20100622

00:01.34fewynhot Corgan
00:01.41fewynenough games?
00:01.53Corgannever
00:03.05*** join/#wowhead Sonka` (~Secret@ip02.rdlbnc.com)
00:05.36JunkHead-WorkI can't see the link.:(
00:09.28Molfsontanhttp://www.buzzfeed.com/awesomer/the-vuvuzela-game
00:09.38blademeldkuinkitty: Justin won 3 MMVAs on one video
00:09.43blademeldit made me lol
00:09.45blademeldand sad
00:11.23kuinkittyHaha
00:18.22blademeldOne day
00:18.25blademeldI'll have a soul
00:20.39kuinkittyWich I can steal
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00:46.36*** join/#wowhead arcanium (~michael@c-71-204-0-42.hsd1.ga.comcast.net)
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00:47.57Limbero|Bostonohai
00:48.04MolfsontanHow is it?
00:48.47blademeldMolfsontan's going to die painfully as he's hit by a train, lands in a creek and eaten alive as his blood drains away
00:48.50blademeldI mean...
00:48.51blademeldhi
00:49.09MolfsontanHarro
00:51.49Limbero|BostonMolf, Boston is great
00:52.12MolfsontanI'm glad you are enjoying a foreign country
00:52.13Limbero|Bostonthis apartment is freakin' awesome
00:52.25MolfsontanI'd love to visit anywhere but Canada
00:52.46Limbero|Bostonolol almost 400 unread posts in my RSS Reader
00:55.44blademeldMolfsontan: you should totally visit me in Mississauga
00:55.47blademeldOntario
00:55.48blademeldCanada
00:55.54MolfsontanNo, Canada sucks.
00:56.10MolfsontanMexico, on the other hand, has a rich culture dating back many centuries
00:56.19blademeldyou visit for the culture?
00:56.31MolfsontanOh fuck if I could travel that is what I would do
00:56.33MolfsontanCulture and food
00:56.34blademeldwe have maple syrup
00:56.41blademeldmaple
00:56.42MolfsontanI used to live next to Vermont
00:56.43blademeldsyrup
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00:57.12starspunand beer.
00:57.20MolfsontanBeir
00:57.22MolfsontanBier
00:57.30MolfsontanWhich is it?
00:58.22starspunBieber.
00:58.34Limbero|Bostonhow do I do umlauts on an american keyboard?
00:58.39Limbero|BostonI can't find it
00:58.41JunkHead-WorkUgh this is annoying.
00:58.59starspunI don't think they are on the keyboard, probably have to do some alt+number combination for it.
00:59.24Limbero|Bostonah, k
00:59.33RawsWelcome to Boston, Limbero
00:59.38Limbero|Bostonthanks
00:59.56RawsIf you're on a Mac, you just hit opt + u, then hit a letter to put an umlaut over it
00:59.57Limbero|BostonGunrun told me that maybe I can go to the Apple Store and have my iOS updated there
01:00.00Rawsü
01:00.08Limbero|Bostonit's a pc
01:00.13GunrunLimbero|Boston uh lemee get that page again
01:00.13RawsShit outta luck
01:00.16Limbero|Bostonbut I'll try that
01:00.20Gunrunhttp://teknofire.net/articles/2009/01/08/using-linux-and-vmware-to-update-iphone-firmware/
01:00.23Gunrunnot gonna guarantee it works
01:00.35Gunrunmaybe they fixed the problem and bog standard vmware will work now?
01:00.56Limbero|Bostonhmm
01:01.18GunrunI checked with a Wine dev and he started with "yeah it'll probably work" and then he said "wait shit complex USB stuff doesn't work in wine"
01:01.32Limbero|BostonRaws, do you think it's plausible that the Apple Store on Boylston (sp?) Street will update my firmware?
01:01.37Gunrunphone em
01:01.40Limbero|BostonGunrun, ah
01:01.45RawsI have no clue
01:02.12Limbero|Bostonok, well, it's worth a try since I'm going there anyway
01:02.44JunkHead-WorkOk so far, I've figured out that freshly installed Firefox and IE8 will not open.
01:02.46Gunrunfailing that just bring your USB cable and do it on the sly
01:02.55JunkHead-WorkAnd from my memory stick, Chrome opens, but won't load.
01:03.07JunkHead-Workand Firefox will open but crashes immediately.
01:03.07Gunrunoh Limbero|Boston if you need to talk to the geniuses you need to book an appointment
01:03.09*** join/#wowhead Gary|G1 (~gary@unaffiliated/Gary13579)
01:03.20Gunrunwhich is retarded but there you go
01:03.24Gary|G1Butts
01:03.26Limbero|Bostonoh
01:03.28Gary|G1What
01:03.28Limbero|Bostonohai Gary
01:03.34Limbero|Bostonlook where I am
01:03.35Gary|G1BUTTRESS
01:03.44Limbero|Boston<--
01:03.45Gary|G1I see
01:03.51GunrunLimbero|Boston what state is boston in
01:03.56Limbero|BostonMA
01:04.13Gunrunhttp://concierge.apple.com/store/R149
01:04.15Gunrunhere u go
01:04.42Gary|G1Did you get to ee the mayhem when celtics lost
01:04.46Gary|G1Lolol
01:05.08RawsIt's all over now
01:05.11Gary|G1BUTTS
01:05.36Gary|G1It'll go on for years don't deny it
01:05.36RawsAlthough I just drove by the boston garden while going through downtown Boston about 45 minutes ago, and there's still a huge "FINALS" Celtics banner proudly displayed
01:05.48Gary|G1Lol
01:06.02Limbero|BostonGary|G1: I wasn't in Boston during the game
01:06.13Limbero|Bostonand I fell asleep halfway through the game
01:06.18Limbero|Bostonstupid jetlag
01:06.24RawsAs you saw I mentioned on facebook, the sirens started here not three minutes after the game ended
01:06.47Gary|G1Yeah
01:07.05RawsI think it was actually pretty mild in Boston itself
01:07.14Gary|G1Btw you need to work on my secret project
01:07.16RawsI read that people just sorta filed out of the bars real quiet and sullen
01:07.17starspunblademeld
01:07.21JunkHead-WorkI was at work so I missed everything.
01:07.22Gary|G1Thanks in advanced
01:07.23Rawsblademeld is Gary's secret project
01:07.38starspunblademeld
01:07.42JunkHead-WorkBest i could do was watch the game on the nba site, and by "watch" I mean watch numbers move by slowly.:\
01:08.02Gary|G1No but much like blade the project is in my pants
01:08.14Rawso
01:08.15CorganGary
01:08.18Corganyou have a SECRET PROJECT
01:08.28Gary|G1Yes
01:08.33Corganlet me touch it
01:08.53Gary|G1Jon
01:09.04Gary|G1Fucking
01:09.10RawsRokk
01:09.12Gary|G1Fuck
01:09.17Gary|G1Like
01:09.21RawsA
01:09.25Gary|G1I'll explain later
01:09.26starspunDuck
01:09.30Rawsding ding
01:09.35CorganGary
01:09.38CorganBirthday Tomorrow
01:09.39Limbero|Bostonbeep beep I'm a jeep
01:09.39RawsThat is the exact word I was thinking of
01:09.39Corgan^_^
01:09.50Corganalso Raws
01:09.54Raws!
01:09.58Gary|G1Really
01:09.59Limbero|BostonEarly congratulations in case I can't get on tomorrow Corgan
01:10.06RawsCorgan turns how old?
01:10.07Gary|G1Birthday present time
01:10.08Corgan22
01:10.14Raws22hot
01:10.20Gary|G1Ask, minamoo about it
01:10.22Corganhttp://dump.corgasm.org/ny0UDJ.png
01:10.58Corganungggg
01:10.58MolfsontanBirthday 2 days after tomorrow
01:10.58JunkHead-WorkI can't see it. What is it?
01:10.58MolfsontanDownload
01:10.58Gary|G1Woah where sod that comma come from
01:10.58Rawswtf is that thing in the bottom left-hand corner
01:10.58Molfsontan0kb/s
01:10.58Gary|G1Did
01:10.58Corganoh
01:10.58CorganRaws
01:11.00CorganSafari Extension
01:11.07JunkHead-WorkFucking sucks not having a damn working browser.
01:11.08RawsI figured that much
01:11.18CorganI wonder why my status bar is enabled
01:12.27Gary|G1Sorry needed it for porn
01:12.28ArkaenRaws: "That’s your fancy explanation. My real reason for trail running? Getting dirty makes me feel way more badass than I am."
01:12.34ArkaenI like that quote :^D
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01:13.05Rawslol
01:13.46Gary|G1Going to go read
01:13.50CorganGary
01:13.58Gary|G1Illy
01:14.00Corgan<3
01:14.04fewynGARY
01:14.11starspunblademeld T_T
01:14.13Gary|G1What
01:14.14fewyni was going to ask you something earlier
01:14.20fewynlet me see if i can remember it
01:14.24Gary|G1Oh fewyn
01:14.31Gary|G1Get swype
01:14.53Corganswypes Gary
01:14.54fewynmy phone has swype built in
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01:15.08Gary|G1Oh right lol
01:15.14fewynit's part of the default mytouch 3g slide package
01:15.15fewynoh
01:15.32fewynhow do i backup my phone's rom incase something breaks when i try to root it? couldn't find anything useful
01:16.23Gary|G1nandroid
01:16.30Gary|G1Afk
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01:21.17starspunbike
01:21.31MolfsontanMinamo Lugs|AFKA starspun
01:21.37Lugs|AFKAcuntbag
01:21.40Minamohi
01:22.01Minamowhat the hell
01:22.04Minamowas the point of that
01:22.08Minamoyou dumb shit
01:22.10Minamo<3
01:22.28starspunIt's Lugburz, there doesn't need to be a point.
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01:25.23MolfsontanMinamo: Gutentag.
01:26.31Rawshttp://starbucks.mirror.waffleimages.com/files/23/23e4feac1dd19c693608ebd8f8cdcf3c350cbac6.jpg
01:28.30starspunblademeld, wru :(
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01:35.23Limbostoni like how facebook is complete and utter 100% crap
01:35.39ArkaenI like how Limboston is some random Limbero with a small elbow
01:36.08Limbostondayum
01:36.33starspunslaps Arkaen around a bit with Limboston's elbow.
01:37.02ArkaenGotta roll a d20, starspun
01:37.17ArkaenOtherwise that attack is invalid :^D
01:37.30starspunThis isn't D&D
01:37.43ArkaenThis is IRC&D
01:38.07RawsInternet Relay Cease & Desist
01:38.25ArkaenIRA&D is more believable
01:38.47ArkaenThe IRA probably has dungeons all over the country
01:38.57RawsInternet Relay Ass & Desist
01:39.00starspunInternet Relay Ass & Desist?
01:39.01starspunHahaha
01:39.11starspunDamn it Raws.
01:39.16RawsWelp
01:40.59Rawshttp://j883376.mirror.waffleimages.com/waffleimages/files/e9/e9c26de4417991f644b48a9731ab4653fcc0f8df.jpg
01:41.17starspunLol o_o
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01:42.28RawsI'm eating some hecka good ciabatta toast right now
01:43.15Molfsontanhttp://www.yogiproducts.com/products/category/granola/
01:43.17Molfsontan^ Nom
01:43.27MolfsontanCiabatta is good always, however.
01:43.56RawsI personally think ciabatta is king of breads
01:44.17MolfsontanVery airy and delicious
01:44.17Lugs|AFKARaws; I personally believe that raws is correcty
01:44.26MolfsontanI could spend hours eating bread
01:44.29MolfsontanWith nothing on it
01:44.29Lugburzciabatta remains my preferred bread
01:44.52Lugburzn-nomnom
01:45.17MolfsontanDoes nobody like granola, however?
01:45.32Molfsontanhttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/69/Submarine_sandwich.jpg Holy shit I came
01:46.03starspunNow I want a sandwich! Fu!
01:46.11starspunToo much tomato on that thing though.
01:46.15RawsThat is a pretty serious lookin' sandwich
01:46.34Lugburzyes
01:46.36RawsI like thin-cut tomato
01:46.41Gunrunhey guys
01:46.46RawsI don't mind thick layers of onion
01:46.49Gunrunjust a daily reminder that america is fucking terrible - http://www.zdnet.com.au/internet-kill-switch-proposed-for-us-339303838.htm
01:46.56starspunI don't like tomato at all.
01:46.58RawsIt also looks like there's a huge amount of melted mozzarella
01:47.13RawsYou must not have had garden fresh tomato, then
01:48.09RawsA CYBER 9/11
01:48.13Rawsjesus
01:48.28starspunI've had garden fresh tomato.
01:48.33starspunI really don't like tomato.
01:48.36starspunNever have. :<
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01:49.06RawsHow about tomato bruschetta
01:49.22MolfsontanI can eat tomatoes plain, they are the most delicious fruit.
01:49.23starspunNever had.
01:49.41Molfsontanhttp://healthycheapfood.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/tomato-bruschetta.jpg Look at it, starspun.
01:49.49MolfsontanThey are also goodness
01:49.49RawsI didn't really like tomato as a kid (besides ketchup), but now I appreciate the freshness they can add to anything
01:49.53RawsI also like tomato sauce, of course
01:50.08starspunLooks ew. ;<
01:50.08MolfsontanKetchup is one of the few tomato things I dislike, lol.
01:50.15MolfsontanI tend to eat fries plain, for example.
01:50.26RawsI use way more mustard than ketchup
01:50.28MolfsontanOr mix mayo with the ketchup
01:50.32starspunTomato sauce I can deal with, pizza isn't the same without. Ketchup is fine too.
01:50.32MolfsontanWinning combination
01:50.32RawsI only put scant amounts of ketchup on burgers
01:50.44starspunBut actual tomatos? Gtfo. :(
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01:51.26MolfsontanNot even grape tomatoes?
01:51.29RawsYou gtfo
01:51.49starspunNo.
01:51.52starspunChange of topic!
01:51.52RawsYou don't like the foods I like, you are terrible, raaahhh
01:51.52starspunhttp://www.wowfunny.com/pictures/3967.jpg
01:51.54starspunPies.
01:52.06RawsMan, I had a slice of fresh strawberry pie today at a roadside diner
01:52.12RawsTopped with whipped cream
01:52.20RawsIt was the first strawberry pie I'd ever had
01:52.20Molfsontanhttp://www.instructables.com/id/Pie-Pops/
01:52.32MolfsontanRaws: Memorable?
01:52.36RawsI'd say so
01:52.53RawsThat pi pie looks like it's been wounded
01:52.57RawsShanked in prison or something
01:53.30MolfsontanCooked in a prison
01:54.45Lugburzcooks Molfsontan
01:55.13normandid anyone ever use the new installer that downloads all the files from the net?
01:56.27MolfsontanNew installer for what?
01:57.10LimbostonI like being late to conversations
01:57.18LimbostonCiabatta is indeed the king of breads
01:57.35MolfsontanToast it with some butter and that's all you need
01:57.51LimbostonToast Ciabatta?
01:57.58LimbostonSilly you
01:58.13LimbostonCiabatta is eaten raw or whatever you call it
01:58.38starspunhttp://images.starcraftmazter.net/4chan/inside_jokes/4chan_better_than_sherlock_holmes.gif
01:59.02starspunRaw? Lol. Fresh.
01:59.08starspunFresh out of the oven.
02:00.30LimbostonWhatever
02:00.42LimbostonI'm tired
02:00.49JunkHead-WorkDo people often cook bread still?
02:00.54JunkHead-WorkNews to me.
02:00.55LimbostonI get to make simple lingustic mistakes
02:00.57starspunMy mum does.
02:01.09LimbostonSomeone obviously does
02:01.16LimbostonOr we wouldn't have bread
02:01.31starspunDelicious home-made bread. Mmm.
02:01.39Limbostonoh well
02:01.44Molfsontanstarspun: That is fantastic
02:01.47Limbostonother people want to use the laptop
02:01.53LimbostonI'm off
02:01.59starspunIsn't it just, Molfsontan :D
02:06.27normanMolfsontan: wow installer. if you don't have the disks, you can download everything through a new installer
02:07.26MolfsontanYeah, I knew this.
02:07.38MolfsontanBeen around for a good while
02:07.47JunkHead-WorkSo has it been officially announced that this week is patch 3.3.5?
02:08.30normanAnd if it crashes it starts all over again. The download continues from where it was before the crash, but it starts installing all files - that are already downloaded - again. :|
02:08.59MolfsontanYeah, that's how it works
02:09.02MolfsontanInstallers work that way
02:16.18fewynno JunkHead-Work
02:16.41JunkHead-Work:\
02:17.26normanWould be more clever to have one download prog and one installer prog
02:17.50LugburzQQ no patch
02:20.19MasterOfDisguiseLugburz: Boo hoo.
02:20.27LugburzMasterOfDisguise; QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ
02:20.29Lugburzoh well
02:20.30LugburzIdont play :p
02:20.34MasterOfDisguiseMeanwhile, I finally replaced my paladin's Gorehowl blol
02:20.35Lugburzit was more for my friend
02:20.40Lugburzblol loser
02:20.43Lugburztook you to long
02:31.18MasterOfDisguiseWhatever, bitch
02:31.32MasterOfDisguiseI can see clearly now your brain is gone
02:38.33LugburzMasterOfDisguise; now you can? o_O that took you too long :/
02:38.33blademeldMasterOfDisguise: isn't your paladin well above level 70?
02:38.38Lugs|AFKAsnarf
02:38.42MasterOfDisguise78.
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02:39.14blademeldstarspun!
02:39.22starspunBLADEMELD
02:39.31blademeldstarspun: do you also cause external bleeding?
02:39.58blademelddoes it count as internal bleeding if your heart is bleeding but has been ripped out from your body?
02:40.32starspunUm.
02:40.33RawsNO, BUT IT TASTES GDOO,,
02:40.34starspunI don't know.
02:41.21blademeldRaws: GDOO TASTES AWEEOMS
02:42.04MolfsontanBone marrow tastes awesome
02:42.21blademeldMolfsontan: so I hear
02:42.30blademeldbut I won't try it by itself
02:42.38blademeldit certainly makes great soup stock
02:42.41starspunBLADEMELD
02:42.48blademeldstarsy?
02:42.48starspun(443): i've never heard her scream louder than when the koreans scored. what am i lacking in bed?
02:42.51starspunAny comment to this?
02:43.00blademeldstarspun: he's lacking the spirit of the red devil
02:43.10blademeld;)
02:43.46Rawsloll
02:44.44blademeldstarspun: he could try putting chili paste on his penis, I guess
02:44.51starspuno_o
02:46.10ArkaenStarspun would like that
02:48.07normanoO ouch?!
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02:51.34Minamoapparently dad owns the cable and the desktop
02:51.43Minamothe desktop that I bought..
02:53.15blademeldhello Minamo
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02:53.21Minamohi
02:53.23blademeldouch
02:53.30blademeldyour dad took your desktop?
02:54.46starspunhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQVoAWSP7k4
02:55.55blademeldstarspun: I have a good feeling
02:56.07starspunGood, blademeld.
02:57.17blademeldstarspun: I thought he was going to lap dance for her
02:57.18blademeldlol
02:58.30starspunHaha
02:59.08blademeldUNICYCLE
02:59.37blademeldstarspun: that was epic
03:00.10starspunYes it was. :D
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03:01.11starspunI want someone to propose to me in a similar fashion.
03:01.16starspunJust to see their face when I reject them.
03:01.18starspunHEHEHEHE.
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03:07.24ArkaenMinamo: blademeld's gonna put chili on his penis for starspun
03:07.26ArkaenI think.
03:07.37starspunHe's not.
03:07.45ArkaenOh, just for fun, then?
03:07.48Minamomeh
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03:09.22normanIt would hurt himself
03:09.26norman(also)
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03:35.16MolfsontanMinamo: Look at faces of wowhead
03:35.18MolfsontanLook at my name
03:35.23MolfsontanLook at the last entry for it.
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03:36.04MinamoMolfsontan: apparently you are now Mina
03:36.07Minamolawls
03:39.47MolfsontanYeah, I got a sex change.
03:40.03MolfsontanNow I have a beardy boyfriend
03:40.36Minamo>:
03:40.53Minamobut that's mine
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03:43.19malikeyejust sent two dozen roses to my girl :D
03:43.40Lugburz..................
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03:59.00JunkHead-Work1I'm sleepy.
03:59.12starspunSleep.
03:59.37JunkHead-Work1trying not to.
03:59.43JunkHead-Work1It's only 11pm.
03:59.53starspun6 am here.
03:59.55starspunI'm going to bed.
03:59.56starspun:D
04:00.34starspunGood niiight.
04:00.44starspunAnd good luck not falling asleep, JunkHead. :D
04:01.01JunkHead-Work1Ha, I will later.:P
04:01.16Minamohttp://fukung.net/v/11373/fbf9ee7fc3383a5665b9efbf5549825f.jpg
04:03.59Stormscapeawww yeah my 60 mage is in full Outland gear now
04:04.04Stormscapemeaning she looks like a prostitute
04:07.38JunkHead-Work1Ok got iphone set to shuffle all songs now.
04:07.49JunkHead-Work1gonna sit and hope it stays quiet now.
04:07.55NiLonleveling gear is so sexy
04:08.22JunkHead-Work1My warrior's pants, either the ones she has now or her old ones...
04:08.29JunkHead-Work1Some panties and soem chaps.
04:08.33JunkHead-Work1That's it.
04:08.38JunkHead-Work1metal panties and chaps.
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04:09.32MolfsontanWho is Gallagher?
04:09.46JunkHead-Work1The comedian?
04:10.00MolfsontanI am not familiar with his work
04:10.10MolfsontanI have heard the name before, but still clueless.
04:10.21JunkHead-Work1He's the guy who crushes watermelons and shit with a big sledge hammer.
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04:32.42blademeldputs chili paste in Arkaen's eyes
04:36.29normanyummi
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04:37.28blademeldhello rosemount
04:37.34blademeldnorman: lick it
04:37.35blademeldDO IT
04:37.40rosemounthello blademeld
04:38.21StormscapeI ummm
04:38.21Stormscapewhat
04:38.22Stormscapehttp://fukung.net/v/21649/dsc06076.jpg
04:41.40blademeldStormscape: you came?
04:48.59rosemountI read this as 'Satchel of Chilled Gods'
04:49.15blademeldlol
04:49.23blademeldrosemount: that could work
04:49.28Lugburzputs Stormscape in a satchel
04:49.34LugburzITS A SATCHEL NOT A MAN PURSE
04:49.35blademeldrosemount: did you farm your cloak yet?
04:49.42rosemountno
04:49.49Lugburz:| come on rosemount
04:49.56rosemountwhich cloak anyway
04:50.35rosemountoh the drop from the satchel
04:50.38rosemountnope, never did ahune
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04:57.26Fayneheard some noobishness was going on in here
04:57.31FayneI came to stop it.
04:57.36Fayne<PROTECTED>
04:58.16rosemountbye everyone
04:59.54StormscapeLugburz
04:59.55Stormscapehttp://fukung.net/v/20695/1255258735301.jpg
05:00.02MasterOfDisguiseHe came in to stop the noobishness... by leaving the channel?
05:00.20MasterOfDisguiseAlso, Lugburz left
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05:27.04blademeldAh
05:27.10blademeldI knew I was forgetting something
05:28.47normanyour cury paste?
05:30.14blademeldnorman: nah, my bible study
05:31.55blademeldwow
05:32.01blademeldI have a lot of crap on this computer
05:32.56normandelte it
05:33.59normanmh, i'm missing some letters
05:34.05blademeldnorman: or I can format my computer
05:34.28blademeldI should have an extra desktop to mess around with in a couple days
05:34.32blademeldI'll wait it out
05:35.43normanmh yeah, formatting sounds good. but then you will probably whine about something that you accidently deleted
05:36.52blademeldnorman: not really, the most important things I have on this computer are the bookmarks
05:37.06blademeldI'll probably start storing everything on google docs sooner or later
05:39.21normanhopefully you have internet everywhere you go
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05:59.54Razernokwoot
05:59.58Razernokhttp://www.wowarmory.com/character-achievements.xml?r=Tichondrius&cn=Dorkins&alink=155:8:2145#ach2145
06:00.11Razernokfull holidays done
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06:01.05JunkHead-Work1I think seasonal quest giver's ! and ? should be a different color.
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06:40.07JunkHead-WorkUgh.
06:48.37StormscapeROFL
06:48.38Stormscapehttp://www.vuvuzela-time.co.uk/
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06:51.20stufhttp://www.facebook.com/pages/I-hate-it-when-Im-at-a-vuvuzela-concert-and-people-start-playing-football/106032459446329
07:05.25vaplis@weather report
07:05.25[Wheaties]Location: Vilnius, Lithuania - Updated at: 6/22/10 9:20 AM Local Time - Temp: 54F (12C) - Feels like: 54F (12C) - Wind: NNW 8 MPH - Conditions: Fog
07:05.51vaplishmm feels like -500
07:07.42Owkkuri@weather report SFXX0044
07:07.42[Wheaties]Location: Pretoria, South Africa - Updated at: 6/22/10 8:00 AM Local Time - Temp: 44F (6C) - Feels like: 41F (5C) - Wind: S N/A MPH - Conditions: Sunny (Cached)
07:07.46Owkkuribrrrr
07:15.00blademeld6C?
07:15.02blademeldawesome
07:17.54Owkkurinot really :p
07:18.14Corganhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-Ln_rqPpPk
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07:35.34blademeldnight
07:35.35blademeldkids
07:35.47blademeldwaves especially to Arkaen
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07:48.27Interest_holy crap
07:48.30Interest_chatzilla looks fugly
07:48.47Interest_any way to make it not fugly?
07:51.07Owkkuriuse something else? ^_^
07:51.23Interesteh, mirc expired
07:52.07wink/slap
07:52.29winkkvirc, xchat, ehatever
07:52.31winkwhy mirc ><
07:52.41Owkkuripats quassel
07:52.44Interesttrue point
07:52.56Interesteh, i think i'll just use this
07:52.59Interestdoesn't seem to memory-hoggish
07:54.26barboni'm using chatzilla
07:54.28barbonlal
07:54.49vaplismirc never expires
07:55.09vapliseven if it says so, you can use it
07:57.20stufhttp://ircpics.com/?p=showpix&showpix=111415 lolled
07:58.41barbonhttp://img243.imageshack.us/img243/577/vforvendettaf.jpg
07:58.50Interesteh
07:58.59Interestit wouldn't allow me to open it, i've been using it that way for awhile
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07:59.19Interestsays like "you've been using this for XX days"
07:59.23Interestas always
07:59.25Interestbut can't continue
08:00.06barbonlook this
08:00.07barbonhttp://img190.imageshack.us/i/img2bfmiosonoleggenda.jpg/
08:00.24barbon"I am Nutella" "The last dk on  the earth, and is not alone"
08:00.26barbonxD
08:00.39vaplisit sometimes gives exit button instead of continue, but i simply close it and open again, and continue button appears
08:00.53vaplisbeen using mirc on this pc for almost 800 days
08:01.43Interestah
08:01.45Interestso that's how
08:01.47Interestlolz
08:01.50Interestmeh
08:01.54Interestdidn't wanna deal with it anymore, tbh.
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08:13.35Interestlol, laihendi is such a sucker lol
08:13.41Interest(@ fayne)
08:13.42Faynekek.
08:13.45Interestalso, hi argent
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08:13.47Fayneyeah, i know
08:13.52Fayne:O hi argent
08:13.52Interestwhere the hell you been mon?
08:13.55Faynehaven't seen you in forever
08:14.13Fayne>_>
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08:14.46Faynelol, alt+f4 =/= alt+tab
08:14.52Fayneis too sleepy
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08:16.42kuinkittyStupid irssi can't keep connected :S
08:18.17winkI'm 90% sure it's not irssi :P
08:21.42stufkuinkitty: awesome, best description about spinach soup so far; "ajattele, että joukko miehiä on käynyt masturboimassa lautasellesi ja sitten vain lusikoit sen siitä suuhusi"
08:22.32kuinkittystuf, LOL
08:22.38kuinkittyI like spinach soup >:(
08:22.45winkthat sentence needs more perkkele
08:22.57kuinkittyOne "k" wink :o
08:23.01kuinkitty"perkele"
08:23.07stufI don't like that fucking soup.
08:23.07winkyeah, it's my keyboard :(
08:23.08stufhaet
08:23.09stuf:<
08:23.15winkor my shakin fingers
08:23.19winkit's frickin cold in here
08:23.47stufi think the best thing to put someone down who is thinking about starting to learn finnish, is to tell them about the existence of a word that's "epäjärjestelmällistyttämättömyydellänsäkäänköhän"
08:24.18kuinkittyHaha
08:24.39stufkuinkitty: also, daily tip thread; http://www.vauva.fi/keskustelut/alue/2/viestiketju/833761/_minkalaisia_kakkaamisvinkkeja_teilla_on_jotta_keh/sivu/1
08:25.27kuinkittyWhat the fuck
08:25.31stufrofl
08:26.13kuinkittyOooh 797 resi
08:27.27stuflol fuuu, i have to do the midsummers achievements before my vacation
08:27.28stufwhich is
08:27.29stuftomorrow
08:27.38stufand the day after tomorrow
08:27.53stufafter that i'm going to a friend's place, and on sunday i'll escape to japan.
08:28.33kuinkittyTo japan? Oo
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08:28.53stufyeah, just 2.5 weeks this time, tho
08:29.19kuinkittyYou gonna fuck yourself with octopus' tentacles, eat dogshit, choke in goo and do karate?
08:29.36stufwas there last summer for a month or so, the 3.2 patch had been released while i was there, and the first thing I do when I come home; log on, get invited to TOTC, and don't know what the fuck to do
08:29.45stufsums it up, about, yeah
08:30.57kuinkittyHaha
08:31.31stufalways hilarious when you haven't used a computer for a month or so and then suddenly you come home, "what the fuck is this mouse"
08:31.41kuinkittyNow you can come back and faceroll RS
08:31.50stufyeah, haha
08:32.14stufalso, i'm going to start replying using this image: http://www.kuvalauta.fi/sopo/src/127715597146.gif
08:32.35kuinkittyHah
08:33.21stufmy motivation to work right now is so maxed out
08:33.30stufsoooooo maxe----oh wait, it isn't, lol
08:33.38stufless than three days to vacation
08:34.39kuinkittyCool, this kid says how awezum he is, when he has a Byntroll with 110AP
08:34.57kuinkittyAnd how hard he hits it while he idles in BG's
08:35.07stufsounds really awesome
08:35.11kuinkittyYeah
08:35.28kuinkittyTold him that dont get fucking 2 shotted by shitty warrior
08:35.40barbonstuf amazzing image
08:35.41barbonxD
08:36.21stufkuinkitty: you could reply to him with that gif image!
08:37.01kuinkittyTrue!
08:37.34kuinkittyAh, only 90k honor ro go
08:37.35kuinkitty*to
08:38.41kuinkittyLOL @wg
08:38.45kuinkittyThis priest has
08:38.48kuinkitty118k HP
08:38.55kuinkittyTenacity, fuck yeah
08:39.40stufAlso, on an unrelated note, it seems like the clock is bitching to me about going to get lunch.
08:39.40Interestlol
08:39.44stufTo which my stomach agrees.
08:40.25kuinkittyhttp://desideratus.guildomatic.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=8&p=94&sid=36f5a88dd736d35ffb459c0c3c3ebc44#p94 Worst application ever
08:40.47kuinkitty"Explain what you want to achieve in WoW: Get best gear for my class"
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08:40.50kuinkittyIdiot
08:41.05stuflol
08:41.05winklol
08:42.43vaplisenglish translation of that finnish word is not less tricky
08:42.54stufhaha
08:44.09stufhttp://static.iltalehti.fi/ulkomaat/ponijuttuJI2206_ul.jpg LOL
08:45.49vaplis1 You are in the worst PUG ever. What do you do about it?:Offer the raid leader some help or advice or explain to him what he is doing wrong and then try and fix it or i will volunteer to become raid leader
08:45.51vaplislooool
08:46.06vaplisnoone does that
08:46.52winkraegquit and insult, then whine on /2
08:47.26barbonilamah
08:47.28Interestlol
08:49.00JunkHead-WorkThis sucks.
08:51.19vaplismoo
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08:54.30kuinkittyAlso, last night this one semi-familiar S-Priest made an ingame apply
08:54.35kuinkittyHe was the worst shit EVER
08:55.00barbonomg
08:55.06kuinkittyHe told some srs blaablaablaa
08:55.40kuinkittyThen I asked him "Were you the guy who did 2500DPS in onyxia, then you stood in it's cleave and ragequit?"
08:55.43kuinkittyThen he ignored me
08:56.15robokittyxD
08:56.26kuinkittyhttp://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kilrogg&n=Tkzvenus This
08:56.32kuinkittyPRO SPECS BRO
08:56.37robokittyas long as he wasn't the melee who stood in front of Marrowgar >_<
08:56.59kuinkittyWe just kick that kinda people
08:57.02winkmelee?
08:57.06winkhad a mage die to it on sunday
08:57.15winkwait, why don't you.. *splaz
08:57.16JunkHead-WorkI see it a lot in low level instances.
08:57.24kuinkittyMaybe he tought that he does more damage by stabbing it to FACE
08:57.28kuinkittyLike limbero
08:57.30robokitty:P
08:57.33JunkHead-WorkMost commonly, healers who stand on me while I'm tanking.
08:57.50robokittyon just about every other boss, that isn't a problem as such
08:57.51Interestlol
08:58.02robokittybut when 2-tanking Marrowgar 25, it kinda backfires
08:58.02JunkHead-WorkOr except for when a pat might by, then they're not on me. they're very far away. gettign the pat by accident.
08:58.09Interestwell, for priest it's fun to do that
08:58.31robokittyanyway
08:58.31JunkHead-WorkI seem to get 90% druid healers.
08:58.31robokittybest evar holy priest
08:58.37JunkHead-WorkAnd one I got yesterday was horrible.
08:58.40robokitty75% of his/her spellcasts were prayer of healing
08:58.45InterestLOL
08:58.53kuinkittyBLOL
08:59.03kuinkittyNo renew? No PoM?
08:59.03JunkHead-Workuhh..
08:59.07JunkHead-WorkOMFG LOL!
08:59.07kuinkittyNo FH?
08:59.08JunkHead-Work?
08:59.32Interestno holy nova????
08:59.38Interestlol
08:59.44kuinkittyWell, healing in ICC is srz bznz anyway
08:59.46Interest(i spam holy nova to heal when i'm lazy)
08:59.59kuinkittyWe did HCmarrowgar with Holy priest / resto druid
09:00.18Interest2 heals?
09:00.27kuinkittyYes
09:01.03Interestkewl.
09:01.34kuinkittyBoth have uber good gear, same as tanks
09:02.11barbonmmm priest discipline is a good healer?
09:02.18kuinkittyYes
09:02.19barbon(in raid i mean)
09:02.22kuinkittyYes
09:02.31kuinkittyRoll roll roll your shields!
09:02.33kuinkittyYarrr
09:02.35barbonlol
09:02.44barbonwhat spec you sugest?
09:02.46kuinkittyIn 25mans it's boring shit
09:02.52barbon*build
09:02.54kuinkitty57/14/0
09:03.06kuinkittyYou do more 10mans or 25mans?
09:03.07barbonlink?
09:03.19barbonboth
09:03.20kuinkittyCalm down :P Im not a machine
09:03.25barboni know
09:03.34barbonand i am not an heal-bot
09:03.35barbonxD
09:04.25kuinkittyhttp://www.wowhead.com/talent#bVcbuhhVRIsffRtbv0c:mbA
09:04.27kuinkittyI use that
09:04.28barbonhttp://lh6.ggpht.com/_3LPtjBvyrZA/Syq6bucN_YI/AAAAAAAAAPM/st31nPmCa_M/iokilloitaurenae6.gif => priest rullz
09:04.43kuinkittyand been always using that
09:04.55kuinkittyAnd will keep using that. Until Cata
09:05.38Interestbarbon>mmm priest discipline is a good healer?
09:05.39barbonmmm
09:05.40Interestyes
09:05.59barbonwhy healing focus?
09:06.01Interestkuin
09:06.03Interestone question
09:06.04kuinkittyWhy not?
09:06.11kuinkittyYes Interest ?
09:06.19Interestisn't it acceptable to get improved healing over
09:06.23Interestfocused will?
09:06.52kuinkittyErhm
09:06.54barbonReduces the pushback suffered from damaging attacks  while casting any healing spell by 70%.
09:06.56Interestconsidering you mainly use flash and penance.
09:06.57kuinkittyDidnt quite get that
09:07.12kuinkittyI use mainly Pw:S, PoM and Penance
09:07.15Interesthttp://www.wowhead.com/spell=14912
09:07.20Interestvs http://www.wowhead.com/spell=45244
09:07.30Interestjust a thought.
09:07.39kuinkittyOnly affects penance
09:07.41robokittyoh god
09:07.46Interestand flash
09:07.47robokittytoday starts the phony war
09:07.48kuinkittyI never ever use Greater Heal
09:07.49Interestand greater.
09:07.54kuinkitty"Reduces the mana cost of your Lesser Heal, Heal, Greater Heal, Divine Hymn and Penance spells by 5%."
09:07.57kuinkittyNo Flash heal?
09:07.58Interestwish it would affect more healing spells
09:08.02barboninner focus + greater heal macro
09:08.03Interestoh nvm
09:08.06barbonis not good?
09:08.07Interesti read lesser as flash
09:08.09Interestfor some odd reason.
09:08.09kuinkittybarbon, no
09:08.15kuinkittyInner Focus + Divine Hymn
09:08.19Interest^
09:08.19barbonwhat spell i have to use with inner focus
09:08.23barbonoh
09:08.26barbonnice suggestion
09:08.35kuinkittyTHat's what I fo
09:08.37kuinkitty*do
09:08.42kuinkittyEven as Shadow, if needed
09:09.00Interesti like comboing inner focus with PoH
09:09.07Interestduring instancing
09:09.10kuinkittyAnd I took Healing Focus because I hate goddamn pushback
09:09.17Interesti thought you're supposed to anyways
09:09.26barbonyea
09:09.49kuinkittyIf you dont want Healing Focus, do like this: http://www.wowhead.com/talent#bVcbuhhVRIsffRt0Ezc:mbA
09:10.13Interestyeah i see
09:10.16Interestjust a thought
09:10.20kuinkittySpell Warding, why? I rather take 10% less damage than have a useless talent for me, since I don't use Greater heal
09:10.36Interestnaturally
09:11.34Interesti can't wait until level 85
09:11.35barbonno divine fury?
09:11.35Interestpenance + spirit of protection
09:11.35Interestdivine fury sucks
09:11.35Interester
09:11.35Interestredemption* even.
09:11.42kuinkittyDivine fury is fucking awesome for PVP-Disc
09:11.49barbonoh ok
09:11.55kuinkittyQuick holy fires and smites, GOGO, solo some mudkips
09:12.01Interestbut i mean for pve...
09:12.05kuinkittybarbon, Greater Heal is really, really shit
09:13.02kuinkittyI find renew absolutely useless also
09:13.14Interesti find it useful in instancing
09:13.15barbonmmm yea
09:13.18StormscapeI think Blizzard should give us the option to have our avatar be Trollface on the WoW Forums
09:13.27StormscapeSo people know right away that I'm a dickhead
09:13.29Interestor for when i'm too lazy to flash heal
09:13.37barbonyou spam only penacle?
09:13.44kuinkittyNo
09:13.50kuinkittyOnly shit healers SPAM
09:13.54barbonloool
09:13.55kuinkittyAka. paladins
09:14.01Interestlawl
09:14.07Interest*holy light holy light holy light*
09:14.13kuinkittyYeah
09:14.18Bundylol
09:14.32Interestholy shock if it seems you need to make a save
09:14.33Bundythere's somewhat more to pala healing that spamming holy light
09:14.38StormscapeHow to be a Healadin: bind everything to holy light
09:14.40Stormscapesmash face
09:14.43Interestyes, but that's the general running joke bundy
09:14.54Stormscaperight mouse button = bacon of light
09:14.54Bundyim offended and hurt
09:14.57robokittybundy, yeah, applying a judgement every minute or so
09:15.03Interestand holy shocking
09:15.05Interestlol
09:15.11kuinkittyFuck holy shock
09:15.13robokitty<- solo healed 26 seconds of LK 10 !
09:15.14StormscapeYour healers have time to holy shock?
09:15.16Interestalso, i've seen a lot of healadins not ever judge.
09:15.18Interestso
09:15.23Interestholy shock to heal perhaps?
09:15.26kuinkittyfailadins
09:15.37Bundyi've solo healed festergut
09:15.53Interestcool story bro. it's just festergut =)
09:15.53kuinkittybeacon tank, spam raid
09:15.58Interest^^
09:16.01kuinkittySrz bznz that paladin healing
09:16.02Bundyand if you just spam holy light, you're a crappy paladin
09:16.12Interesthey
09:16.15Interestbut if you flash heal spam
09:16.18Interestyou won't find a guild
09:16.18kuinkittyThey all ar
09:16.19kuinkittye
09:16.19Interestso
09:16.21Interesti digress..
09:16.29StormscapeAll serious healadins are holy light
09:16.30Interestwow
09:16.31Interestumm
09:16.33Interestflash of light spam*
09:16.42Interest^^
09:16.44Interestaye
09:16.46kuinkittyAll serious healers roo something else
09:16.52kuinkitty:(
09:16.55kuinkittyROLL
09:17.02kuinkittyIm still sleeping :|
09:17.05Interestall serious healers are druids.
09:17.06BundyStormscape : ofc its the main spell, but still shouldnt be spammed all the time
09:17.12robokittyolol
09:17.16robokittyslaps Corgie
09:17.22kuinkittyAll serious healers MANA BURN druids
09:17.24kuinkitty;DERP
09:17.36StormscapeBundy if your healers have time to do something besides Bacon Holy Light and judge once a minute, they're doing it wrong.
09:17.51kuinkittyTOo many healers maybe?
09:17.55BundyStormscape : if nobody is dying, no?
09:17.55kuinkittyLike
09:18.11kuinkittyRunning the first 7 bosses in ICC with 3 healers is like 9manning them
09:18.16kuinkitty20% to everything, srs
09:18.34Stormscapekuin yeah we're lazy and 5 heal everything except Saurfang
09:18.35Bundyduring low hps phases use flash of light, then use holy shock + 4 piece bonus for a quick switch to holy light when damage starts coming
09:18.42Stormscapewe 3 heal him
09:18.47kuinkittyStormscape, butbut
09:18.51kuinkittyIt's only saur
09:18.58kuinkitty10man = 1 healer
09:19.20Stormscapeah you meant 10 man
09:19.23Interest^
09:19.23Stormscapederp
09:19.40StormscapeYeah on 10 man we ummm
09:19.47Stormscapetbh I don't know what we do on Saurfang on 10 man
09:19.53Stormscapesince I don't pay attn to our heroic strat
09:19.59StormscapeBecause for me it's the same
09:20.30kuinkittyyeah, dotdotdot flay the shit out of it
09:20.38kuinkittyKill lolbeasts
09:20.39kuinkittyHard
09:20.58kuinkittyBQL hardmode is even more joke
09:21.00Stormscapei noe rite
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09:21.16StormscapeWe almost wiped on BQL Heroic because we forgot we'd actually get a 2nd airphase on Heroic
09:21.22kuinkittyHehe
09:21.30robokitty:P
09:21.31StormscapeSo we didn't wait to bite
09:21.38Stormscapethen it was like "oh wait wut"
09:21.45robokitty2nd airphase + the increased damage going round = god damn intensive
09:21.49Stormscapeboth healers died in the last 10%
09:21.52Stormscapewas pro
09:21.59robokittyhttp://mmad.dk/wow/WoWScrnShot_061910_221733.jpg :(
09:22.09StormscapeVampire Debuff and Vampiric Embrace literally saved the day
09:22.28kuinkitty2 priests in BQL is win
09:22.40robokittywe had 3 :3
09:22.50kuinkittyHow can it be intesive? Oo
09:23.00Stormscapekuin, you know what's even more win
09:23.06Stormscape3 shadow priests in 1 group on LK25 attempts
09:23.08robokittynever really feels like you're catching up on people taking damage :<
09:23.11Stormscape"lol wuts raid damage?"
09:23.16kuinkittyStormscape, haha
09:23.21robokittyoh
09:23.40StormscapeI don't think Infest even ever actually applied to anybody in the group
09:23.43kuinkittyrobokitty, you know, when you have 3 priests, and 3 healers in BQL, none of the priests get feared -.-
09:24.07StormscapeThat's why good priests and pallies are human
09:24.10Stormscapefor EMFH
09:24.19robokittyoi, I'm a healer too, and I got feared for 2 secs :(
09:24.26kuinkittyFear Ward
09:24.27Interestzz
09:24.29StormscapeThat too
09:24.29robokittyand then my tremor totem ticked ^_^
09:24.39StormscapeI always Fear Ward myself on 25 man
09:24.41Interesthow to: heal, spam H HoR
09:24.41Stormscapeit's awesome
09:24.51StormscapeHeroic Halls of Reflection eh?
09:24.55StormscapeDidn't know that was a spell
09:24.57kuinkitty:D
09:25.00kuinkittyAaaah
09:25.05kuinkittySmoking time
09:25.05Interest=)
09:25.11Interestlol
09:25.11robokittyxD
09:25.17Interest:-)
09:25.22Interest:-(
09:25.33StormscapeAlso, behold my new avatar for my guild forums: http://i.imgur.com/XOzCu.png
09:26.00Interestluls
09:26.08StormscapeI think it suits me
09:26.30StormscapeI swear my years of IRC have resulted in me trolling my own guild during raids without realising it
09:26.47Intereststorm: i trolled my guild forums
09:26.48Interestby
09:26.55Interestposting the entire Rules of WoW
09:27.06StormscapeYou mean the TOS
09:27.08Interesthttp://www.wowhead.com/forums&topic=91938
09:27.18Stormscapeoh
09:27.24Interest=P
09:27.39StormscapeWell
09:27.42StormscapeThis one is better
09:27.42Stormscapehttp://dwarfpriest.com/
09:27.48Interestlol i love those
09:27.50Interestexcept
09:27.54Interestit's a ripoff of the RPG rules
09:28.05Stormscape16. The Hypocrisy of Avian Travel
09:28.05StormscapeThe windrider will not know how to get there, unless you do, but it flies itself.
09:28.20Intereststormscape: http://project-apollo.net/text/rpg.html
09:28.25Interestthat's what it's a ripoff of
09:29.06Intereststill
09:29.08Interestpretty good
09:29.52Interest4. The Fecal Inevitability
09:29.54Interestthis is the best one
09:33.00Interest32. The Warlock Postulate Nobody likes Warlocks, not even Warlocks.
09:33.03Interestrofl.
09:38.34Stormscape97. The Catastrophic Constant
09:38.34StormscapeSomeone is always trying to take over and/or destroy the world. If that person is ever defeated, then someone else immediately takes that person’s place.
09:40.04Interestlol
09:40.42Interest93. The Infallibly of Time Travel
09:40.42kuinkittyFucking random DC's
09:40.46InterestIf you travel back in time and mess things up, the present won’t change.
09:40.50Interestlawl.
09:41.39Interest100. The Law of Infinite Entertainment
09:41.42InterestYou can never win the game. That will never stop you from trying.
09:48.35Interestnight
09:48.38Interestalso lol server maintenance
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10:20.48lantanajust taught a markov bot everything alamo has to teach
10:21.00lantanathis bot can now play druid
10:21.22Owkkuricat durid?
10:22.15robokitty:|
10:22.20lantanai think mayb this bot is 4 heel
10:22.26robokitty:3
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10:23.09lantana06:22 <&raine> GLaDOS: durid
10:23.09lantana06:22 <&GLaDOS> raine: Sum durid is need sum halp and advise frum a good durid so u shuld alway halp unother.
10:23.18robokittyxD
10:24.31Owkkurihehe
10:24.34Owkkuriwell done
10:25.35robokittypats Corgan
10:36.50kuinkittyWuhuu, +800 resi
10:36.57kuinkittyNow some Pewpew gear and it's set
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10:40.03buttiloHello
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10:41.08buttiloCould some warrior tank give tips for good UI?
10:43.18kuinkittyhttp://wowinterface.com/downloads/info13691-KuroUI.html
10:43.55vaplisEngland team visited an orphanage in Cape Town today. "It's heartbreaking to see their sad little faces with no hope" said Jamal, aged 6.
10:44.25buttilokuinkitty, ty
10:45.10Owkkurilol vaplis
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10:49.27winkbuttilo: that's a bit vague, mhm? :)
10:49.42winkget threatplates
10:49.54winkget scrolling combat text to show when your cooldowns refresh
10:50.14winkhave your important debuffs displayed on your enemy.
10:50.25winkget Cork or whateber to not forget shouts
10:53.46Gunrun`< Is now an official Zimbabwean Multi-Trillionaire
10:55.01Owkkuridonates to Gunrun`
10:55.14barbonhttp://www.wowhead.com/quest=9319/a-light-in-dark-places where i can find the fire into dire maul?
10:57.17Gunrunprobably just inside the entrance
10:57.44Gunrun"The Blackrock Spire flame is found just after mother smolder thorn. You will walk up a ramp to a ledge with several ogres, and you can't miss the flame. Be careful of ogres." its right in the comments dude
10:58.28buttilowink, okeydokey :)
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11:02.02robokittyread the last comment, unless they've fixed the flame in DM, don't bother with it
11:02.36barbonmmm
11:02.55barbonso is located at DM north?
11:03.09barbonor is out?
11:03.12StormscapeNo, it's gone
11:03.14Stormscaperead the comments
11:03.46barboni know but i play in private server xD
11:03.51robokitty...
11:04.10GunrunTecnoBrat
11:04.18barbon"no wowhead support" for private server right?
11:04.22barbon._.
11:04.26robokittycorrect
11:04.32Gunrunwhy would you even bother
11:04.35Gunrunnothing even works
11:04.55barboni play in retail for 2 years
11:05.09barbon<.<
11:05.55NoxyTecnoBrat ping
11:06.04Gunrunbeat you noxy
11:06.14Noxymore pings dont hurt
11:08.42NoxyEither way.
11:09.01NoxyWe dont welcome your type around here, Mister P.Server.
11:09.18GunrunI'd be careful using that phrase noxy
11:09.56Gunrun"we don't welcome your type around here" is a bad phrase
11:10.03robokittynoxy
11:10.11robokittylol that pic Wout has on facebook xD
11:10.15robokittyhe's totally under the paw
11:10.40NoxyThat cat does that a lot >>
11:10.45robokitty:3
11:10.51robokittygood kitty
11:10.59NoxyGunrun: I know, but it works in a lot of situations.
11:11.07NoxyAnd gets the point accross.
11:11.13robokittysigh
11:11.19robokittyanother day, still no pet :/
11:11.24Noxynoms on robo
11:11.28robokitty:(
11:14.05rikaihum... i still cant believe how much time i've wasted getting bloodsail exalted... :P
11:14.35rikaiat least i'm on the final stretch. :x
11:14.46Gunrunrikai at least you're not doing it on a private server
11:15.01Gunrunargh why is tranquility down
11:15.18rikaiGunrun: true story. That'd be the ultimate waste of time... :P
11:17.08Gunrunargh my authenticator is downstairs
11:17.18GunrunI'm so lazy
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11:20.19rikaiWell, i'll be happy if there's some sort of bloodsail exalted reward in cata, anyway... :F
11:21.04JunkHeadPatch looks to be 24mb or so.
11:21.13stufpatch day tomorrow?
11:21.20JunkHeadthis week yes.
11:21.22JunkHeadI just got it.
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11:26.51barboni found the fire
11:26.54barbonit was at entrace
11:26.56barbon<.<
11:27.03barbonWTF
11:27.23kuinkittyThumbs up, ZG mount run inc
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11:47.21robokittylol
11:47.33robokittywas getting zerged by 2 hunters, a lock and a warr
11:47.39robokittybut I got the Stormwind flame!
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11:48.33kuinkittyWell you got bubbelsz
11:48.45robokittynot on my shaman
11:48.52kuinkittyAh
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12:01.57NoxyBeep
12:02.14robokittyMeow
12:02.33NoxyRun devil devil run run ~
12:02.37robokitty:<
12:04.03barboncoyote is coming
12:04.08barbonwilly
12:04.10barbonxD
12:07.14Owkkuribarbon
12:07.19OwkkuriLO
12:12.50robokittysigh
12:13.22robokittyI hate those low level wankers who run up to me, fire a spell at me to interrupt the fishing and then run off to a handful of guards
12:14.56NoxyI was doing my fire achievs yesterday, an 80 dk was corpse camping me. (I was on my 75 mage)
12:15.13NoxyWhen I finally got away, I killed the undead fishing trainer.
12:15.17robokitty:P
12:15.19NoxyBecause I'm passive aggressive.
12:15.20Noxy):
12:15.38robokittyaaand some level 80 shadowpriest cunt just killed me
12:15.54robokittyof course, finishing off with a /sorry
12:16.02robokittywhat the flip is that supposed to be good for?
12:21.18lantanarofl
12:21.20lantanaMY BAD
12:21.24lantanaI put up all my DoTs on accident
12:21.47robokitty:|?
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12:24.24buttilohow do i repair wow? i dont have repair utility in wow folder because im a macfag :(
12:26.21buttiloneed to restore my interface and wtf folder, cant see damage, debuffs etc
12:26.24NedraeMorning
12:27.16Bundybuttilo : if you need to restore your UI to default, you can just delete the WTF and INTERFACE folders
12:27.54buttiloBundy, i did that and there is addons folder with blizzard addons in interface, but still i cant see damage etc
12:28.13buttiloand when i log at character selection screen, i cant see the red addon button
12:28.28Bundywhen you cant see that button, you have no addons
12:28.53buttilobut i have those blizz "addons"
12:28.56buttiloin addons folder
12:29.05buttiloor doesnt them count?
12:29.39Bundyi dont think so
12:29.42robokittyolol
12:29.49robokittynow some paladin wanker blew all of his CDs
12:29.53Bundywow creates them automaticially
12:29.54buttiloweird, i see the dmg at my char portrait, but not on the screen
12:32.13buttiloreset to default from interface options helped. thanks for trying to help :p
12:32.35barbonMan, do you know how to insert a LCD SCSI memory to the cache over the GUI from Outlook Express NT and from the control preferences inside Outlook Express?
12:32.46barbonThe point is that from Photoshop or from Netscape or from the preferences within Redhat LinuxPPC 4.6.7 you either must boot from a CD shell, or must explore the mousepad on a graphic monitor in order to install on the file over the BIOS.
12:33.15robokittyhaha
12:33.22robokittynow the little cunt is corpse camping me
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13:00.14kuinkitty~1500/25
13:00.15infobot60
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13:17.33vaplisYO DAWG, I HEARD YOU LIKE TO BLOW SO I PUT A PENIS IN YOUR VUVUZELA SO YOU CAN BLOW WHILE YOU BLOW
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13:17.58wink/cla
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13:53.24ari5avGOOD MORNING INTERNET FRIENDS AND ASSOCIATES
13:54.07Primarhttp://5secondfilms.com/watch/playing_with_power
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15:03.54kuinkittyHmm, to upgrade Disc gear or not :|
15:04.43Rawshttp://i49.tinypic.com/rkvvk5.jpg
15:05.08kuinkittyRaws: http://www.funnyforumpics.com/forums/Repost/2/Old-NewsRocks.jpg
15:05.19RawsHell YEAH
15:05.21RawsAlso, http://i46.tinypic.com/21cfevk.png
15:06.08Djones_Raws, what...
15:06.09Djones_the..
15:06.12Djones_.is that DF?
15:06.14Djones_What.
15:06.15RawsYeah
15:06.15Djones_It's wrong.
15:06.17Djones_Just wrong.
15:06.23Djones_I DEMAND @'s!
15:06.36Djones_When did DF get...graphical.
15:06.43RawsIt's a custom tile set
15:06.49Djones_Dayum
15:06.56Djones_Time to load up boatmurdered.
15:07.07Rawslol
15:07.44Djones_I haven't played DF...in a long time, actually.
15:08.21RawsI play it for a little bit once in a while
15:08.49RawsI'm trying to get a succession game going with a few friends
15:09.06Djones_Mhmm.
15:09.09Djones_They're a lot of fun.
15:10.34MolfsontanIsn't there an update for DF coming up where it is way more graphical?
15:11.40Molfsontanhttp://www.digitalspy.com/odd/news/a230979/dog-blown-20-miles-away-in-strong-wind.html
15:11.58RawsOh my god http://notch.tumblr.com/post/719213973/rideable-minecarts-this-wont-be-released-until
15:14.09Parall4xFeeling the strong urge to play Roller Coaster Tycoon now.... possibly drowning some furries.
15:14.23RawsThe first screen just made me think "Gerbils!"
15:14.29RawsWhich only old school Mac users will understand
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15:20.47RawsOh, in other news, I hit 80 for the first time last night
15:20.54RawsAt the end of a crushing AV defeat
15:24.13MolfsontanDo you play Horde?
15:24.41MolfsontanCongrats, given either answer.
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15:27.50RawsMolf: nah, Alliance
15:29.24MolfsontanRace?
15:29.30RawsDwarf
15:29.34RawsHunter
15:29.46MolfsontanAh, a good combination for a new player, if that is what you are
15:29.51fewynDOOOORF
15:29.54MolfsontanThis is your first 80, right?
15:29.56RawsYeah
15:30.02RawsI've been playing since the original beta
15:30.08MolfsontanOh
15:30.10MolfsontanDerp
15:30.12Rawslol
15:30.26MolfsontanSo you just never got a character to 80?
15:30.29RawsYeah
15:30.36MolfsontanToo busy with rl?
15:30.45RawsI got one other hunter to 69 during BC, then had to stop playing for a while
15:30.55RawsThen I got back into it with a friend about a year ago and started fresh
15:31.09RawsSo this is only my second character ever in five years
15:31.31RawsThe 69 hunter is the one I started playing on launch day
15:31.45RawsI decided to keep him 69 forever because 69
15:31.52rosemountyay raws
15:32.04Raws\o/
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15:34.18Mr_Rabies71-80 was surprisingly smooth
15:34.25Mr_Rabiesi mostly did 77-80 doing daily random instances
15:34.43Mr_Rabiesdidn't even go to storm peaks or icecrown, other than the argent tourney stuff at 77
15:37.08buttilo:-D
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15:37.49RawsI did 74–80 all in AV
15:37.56ari5av*yawn*
15:38.03RawsYo ari
15:38.42ArkaenI apparently had asomeone ping me in here
15:38.58Primarhttp://i.imgur.com/wO85l.jpg
15:39.09kuinkittyArkaen, pingpong
15:39.12fewynlol Primar
15:40.21MolfsontanPrimar: Brb, getting some of those made
15:41.54barbonPrimar
15:41.57barbonepic picture
15:41.59barbonxD
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15:42.56Keshy-Hello everyone
15:43.13Raws'lo Keshy-
15:43.48`vipmorning ;)
15:44.02Keshy-Heh, I just came back home from work
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15:44.43`viphaha, I just woke up :l
15:44.46`vipstayed up late
15:45.00`vipmeant to wake up early too ... to watch the FIFA matches :/
15:45.20Keshy-Ah :|
15:45.23barbonbow his head hurting the 'vip'
15:45.35barbonsorry!
15:46.09Keshy-Haven't used IRC in ages, but what's the slashcommand for those emotes barbon preformed?
15:46.22RawsKeshy-: /me
15:46.38Keshy-Ah yeah
15:46.40Faethe!slap
15:46.43Keshy-Thanks Raws
15:46.51barbon!slap Faethe
15:46.54barbonslappa Faethe con un piccolo un piccolo pesce
15:47.06FaetheK so
15:47.10barbon(is in italian :( )
15:47.10Keshy-haha
15:47.12barbonxD
15:47.15FaetheWe're not gonna have access to Ruby even though they're releasing the patch?
15:47.23Keshy-Correct
15:47.27Parall4xYeah. /sigh
15:47.28Gunrunno, because europe won't be getting the patch till next week
15:47.28Keshy-Will be opened "later"
15:47.31Gunruncos of bnet stuff
15:47.40FaetheLamesauce.
15:47.46Parall4xRealID will be live after maintenance though, right?
15:47.47Keshy-Just a bit
15:47.53Gunrunshould be yes
15:47.55Keshy-Yeah
15:48.00Keshy-Atleast for US
15:48.02`vipdoes the lootlist work on wowhead yet?
15:48.03FaetheThey didn't say anything about that being delayed.
15:48.04`vipfor ruby?
15:48.08`vipit didnt last night :/
15:48.15FaetheThere's a new ARP trinket
15:48.16`vipwell, around 2am EDT
15:48.16Faethe:x
15:48.25MolfsontanFaethe: Do sorta want
15:48.29MolfsontanOh wait
15:48.35MolfsontanThe one from Ruby Sanctum?
15:48.38FaetheYeah.
15:48.55fewynreal id will be available today
15:48.59fewynruby sanctum next week
15:49.12Primaris it just me
15:49.17Primaror is the BBC news site hilarifucked
15:49.18Primarhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/
15:49.30fewynyea
15:49.37Parall4xYeah, couple of problems there.
15:49.38fewynmight be my adblock tho
15:49.43Keshy-Haha the hell
15:49.45Molfsontanhttp://ptr.wowhead.com/item=53111 Mmmm
15:49.50barbonguys
15:49.57barbonyou know who is the girl
15:49.58fewynnah it's not adblock
15:50.00fewynthey suck
15:50.01barbonin this picture? http://lh6.ggpht.com/_3LPtjBvyrZA/S7E_VBzoQqI/AAAAAAAAAV8/RqZHVRjD3KI/yoko.jpg
15:50.05Faethehttp://ptr.wowhead.com/item=54569 <----- New Trinket
15:50.07MolfsontanThe hell
15:50.14Molfsontan25 man just drops another pair of tanking boots
15:50.29Keshy-@Faethe, do want
15:50.40FaetheIt's pretty nice =)
15:50.46Keshy-Sure is
15:51.02barbondude
15:51.04barbonhttp://lh5.ggpht.com/_3LPtjBvyrZA/SnQMWQfHBGI/AAAAAAAAAC8/NqrgnnsYugE/s640/comunisti%21.jpg
15:51.06barbonD:
15:51.08`viphrm, that trink is nice ...
15:51.08Parall4xHmm, I'll actually have cause to do a DPS analysis again because of that trinket.
15:51.13`vipgood for Enhance Shammy?
15:51.29FaetheI can't get DBW for the life of me, there's always a ret paladin winning it over me. :|
15:51.33Keshy-@barbon, that's messed :|
15:51.43GrumDBW?
15:51.50FaetheDeathbringer's Will.
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15:52.21Faethesighs.
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15:52.38Grumhmm that 10 or 25m?
15:52.40ari5avgood lord I am bored to bits
15:52.44Faethe25 ICC
15:52.45Keshy-25man
15:52.49FaetheSaurfang.
15:52.56Grumhands ari5av some glue
15:53.02RawsThis is the best company name ever http://smartassess.com/
15:53.59kadrahilRaws
15:54.11kadrahilsmarta7asess.com
15:54.13Rawskadrahil
15:54.16Keshy-@Raws "A learning organisation"
15:54.20Keshy-Yeah, better be...
15:54.21Rawssmarta7asess.com
15:54.26kadrahil<3
15:54.45kadrahilRaws, I'm thinking about going for this network specialist position with the county
15:54.52kadrahil(county government job)
15:54.54ari5av...glue?
15:54.57ari5avoh
15:54.59ari5av"to bits"
15:55.00ari5avhehe
15:55.03kadrahili'd be moving home closer to my family
15:55.07ari5av@weather report 33496
15:55.08[Wheaties]Location: Boca Raton, FL (33496) - Updated at: 6/22/10 10:50 AM EDT - Temp: 91F (32C) - Feels like: 102F (38C) - Wind: ESE 12 MPH - Conditions: Partly Cloudy
15:55.11Raws~*~Network specialist~*~
15:55.12kadrahiland making over 50k starting out with a huge benefits package
15:55.15Primar[16:54:59] Primar: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/netherlands/7846704/Dutch-police-use-decoy-Jews-to-stop-anti-Semitic-attacks.html
15:55.15Primar[16:55:03] Primar: best headline ever
15:55.15Primar[16:55:05] Primar: DECOY JEWS
15:55.16kadrahilyeah
15:55.39Raws~*~DECOY JEWS~*~
15:55.40kadrahilpretty much everything that has to do with wiring, routing, switching, network services, scripting
15:55.54kadrahili haven't done this stuff in probably 3 years
15:56.11kadrahilbut it's all there, still
15:57.42RawsOh no http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_0f7Muu8izqA/TCANy4GjihI/AAAAAAAACm4/d7VEMXX5GgE/s1600/ANAKANicMorrigan.jpg
15:57.51Primaraha
15:58.25barbonahaha
15:59.07barbonhttp://lh5.ggpht.com/_3LPtjBvyrZA/SnQyVvgSY1I/AAAAAAAAADE/2FI3xhjfmos/s640/Immagine.jpg
15:59.12barbonhttp://lh4.ggpht.com/_3LPtjBvyrZA/SnQyV870WYI/AAAAAAAAADI/o0hFna8LvPU/s640/Immagisdane.jpg
15:59.18Primar"If we receive several reports of street robbery in a certain location, we send out the granny. That soon quietens things down," said a spokesman.
15:59.21Faethe(offtopic) Yeah its gonna be nice to be able to keep in touch with crossrealm buddies.
15:59.25barbonhttp://lh3.ggpht.com/_3LPtjBvyrZA/SnQyV7YTR6I/AAAAAAAAADM/UynUEqGmRvA/s640/kaboom.jpg and http://lh6.ggpht.com/_3LPtjBvyrZA/SnQzcdUEXzI/AAAAAAAAADU/6fmkufieI2o/2544fuck.jpg
15:59.27barbonxD
15:59.33barbon(is a sequence)
15:59.48kadrahilRaws http://armorylite.com/score/us/stormreaver/
15:59.50kadrahil#3 lawl
15:59.58Parall4xwishes he had crossrealm buddies with which to communicate.
16:00.04Rawskadrahil: 3hot
16:00.06robokittywat
16:00.08FaetheYou can be my friend :)
16:00.13FaethexD
16:00.18kadrahil:O
16:00.29Parall4x<PROTECTED>
16:00.29kadrahilRaws: is that one more than 2hot
16:00.32Parall4xit works!
16:00.33robokitty>:|
16:00.39Rawskadrahil: yes
16:00.44kadrahilRaws: 3hot5u?
16:00.44FaetheLol
16:00.56RawsYou're still a sucker for paying attention to gear score, but I'll cut you a break because A7A
16:01.02kadrahillol
16:01.04PrimarA7A
16:01.06RawsA7A
16:01.06kadrahilA7A
16:01.15robokittyB7B
16:01.18FaetheNow you know my name IRL
16:01.19kadrahilB8B
16:01.28kadrahilTBH i don't actually pay attention to gear score
16:01.30RawsB-1B
16:01.40robokittyI just know I'll never touch real id
16:01.42kadrahilthat was the first time i looked at that site in probably a year
16:01.51kadrahilwhy? real ID is the best thing to happen to wow in ages
16:01.55robokittyfuck me if people are gonna grab me while I'm chillin' on a secret alt :3
16:01.57FaetheYou don't have any friends x-realm?
16:01.58kadrahilfor people that play on multiple servers at least
16:02.04kadrahiloh, that
16:02.07Parall4xrobokitty: Good point.
16:02.08RawsI'll only use it for really close friends
16:02.13robokittyI do
16:02.13kadrahilyeah
16:02.14Faethe^^
16:02.27kadrahilI'M WITH RA7AWS
16:02.28FaetheI'm not gonna give my Gleader my RealID
16:02.33Rawsblol
16:02.40*** join/#wowhead mystadio (~Mystadio@modemcable165.219-200-24.mc.videotron.ca)
16:02.40*** mode/#wowhead [+o mystadio] by ChanServ
16:02.42robokittyI also have most of them on messenger & faesbook
16:02.43RawsI am my guild leader
16:02.49RawsI will harvest all Real IDs
16:02.52kadrahilRaws, guild leader of <Ra7aws>
16:02.56Rawsyes
16:03.17Parall4xIt's nice to be universally available though when you've got people in the edge raiding guild for you faction who like to invite you to things, though.
16:03.23Parall4x*your
16:03.51RawsIt'd be cool if you could chat with people across US/EU realms
16:03.55RawsOh well, that's what IRC is for
16:04.10kadrahilthe internet is for A7A
16:04.12*** join/#wowhead Srosh (~Srosh@d056229.adsl.hansenet.de)
16:04.19Rawsyes
16:04.43*** join/#wowhead Eresh (IceChat7@563489ed.rev.stofanet.dk)
16:04.47kadrahilsigh
16:05.05kadrahilwhat's a mmo trial worth playing when realms are down :X
16:05.25EreshSalutations
16:05.30Parall4xGreetings
16:05.33robokittysigh
16:05.41EreshI am known by many names
16:05.47robokittythank god we'll only get another session in this dead game
16:05.53EreshFor example, Pyreanor
16:06.35FaetheWhy would you want to play a game when you can sit and chat with us :D
16:07.06Parall4xOooh, who wants to do a TeamViewer session with me so we can play console-based Monopoly together?!?
16:07.14*** join/#wowhead Jamash (~chatzilla@99-92-174-69.lightspeed.iplsin.sbcglobal.net)
16:07.20Ereshwhydoesthisexist
16:07.34Parall4xI don't even bother with a board anymore.
16:08.01MolfsontanI shall call you Kresh.
16:08.26fewynthey just extended the extended maintance
16:08.35fewyn1pm now
16:08.37EreshWas that statement directed towards me, dear sir M?
16:08.40Parall4xWho has extended maintenance? EU realms?
16:08.47fewynus
16:09.09Parall4x...
16:09.18lantana;_;
16:09.22lantanadamnit
16:09.23FaetheHas anyone ever seen the fat guy who flipped out over ICC on youtube?
16:09.32lantananope, but that'd just make my day
16:09.39RawsDa fug http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shabbat_elevator
16:09.43MolfsontanYes, Eresh.
16:09.53MolfsontanI remember seeing that
16:09.54EreshI am hono... wait?
16:09.55Parall4xI guess I should have read the launcher alert. I was living in a fantasy of only having a brief, 15-min realm  maintenance.
16:10.06MolfsontanOn that one Bill Maher or something movie
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16:10.49MolfsontanIn Israel, there is a lab where they work to create things to circumvent Sabbath law
16:10.51MolfsontanHilarious
16:10.55EreshWell, as a movie noob who only watches Twilight regularly, I have nothing to say about that
16:11.15robokittywat
16:11.16Faetheloltwilight
16:11.30EreshStory okay, concept horrid
16:11.43robokittywriting dreadful
16:11.52FaetheYou know what's a good book?
16:11.59Faethe"Shit My Dad Says"
16:12.03EreshWriting actually okay, fanbase revolting
16:12.06robokittyThe Amazing Adventures of Kavalier & Clay?
16:12.12lantanathey're making a show based on that aren't they Faethe?
16:12.18FaetheI believe so yeah lol.
16:12.20robokittyI highly recommend it btw
16:12.25lantanaI look forward to it
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16:12.35FaetheThe book was side-splitting.
16:12.39FaetheI want to meet his dad.
16:12.39robokittymost of my nooks are non-fiction
16:12.42robokitty:<
16:12.54kadrahilyou're a nook
16:12.59robokitty:(
16:13.01robokittybooks*
16:13.04`vipextended sucks, no wow for four more hours X:
16:13.31robokittyI have way too many on Ww1, Ww2 and the life, times and projects of Osama bin Ladin :|
16:13.31EreshWell, I like the books, the movies are okay, the concept is absolutely profane and the fangirls are scum
16:13.31Parall4xFor a patch whose content we don't even get to enjoy immediately after the maintenance!
16:13.45lantanaalso do you have a link to that ICC nerd rage vid?
16:14.42MolfsontanFaethe: I read that while at a college bookstore
16:15.16FaetheFrom the book "Shit My Dad Says". --- One day I was on a walk with my dad and my dog, Angus, who was sniffing aorund in a bush outside a neighbor's house. My dad turned to me and said "Look at the dog's asshole." "What? Why?" "You can tell by the dialation of his asshole that he's going to shit soon. See. There it goes."
16:15.36FaethexD
16:15.39robokitty|:
16:15.45MolfsontanEresh: The writing in Twilight is terrible
16:15.52EreshEhh... Somehow, that only manages to squick me
16:16.03robokittyhttp://www.cracked.com/funny-36-twilight <3
16:16.43EreshM: It seems that way because you've read better books; read My Immortal and you'll see bad
16:17.06Faethe@Molfsontan did you laugh in the middle of the library?
16:17.36MolfsontanI was grouped with like 3 people and all of us were laughing
16:17.39MolfsontanIt was beside um
16:17.44MolfsontanLook at this fucking hipster
16:17.48MolfsontanAnd a few other internet books
16:17.54Domh@realmstatus us velen
16:17.55[Wheaties]Realm status for Velen (PVE) - Status: Down
16:17.57FaetheI was reading the book in the middle of my local mall foodcourt and I was crying laughing.
16:18.25ari5avRaws: shabbat elevators are not accepted by most orthodox jews, you should know that
16:18.26Molfsontan@realmstatus us thrall
16:18.26[Wheaties]Realm status for Thrall (PVE) - Status: Down
16:18.31Molfsontan@realmstatus us cho'gall
16:18.32[Wheaties]Could not find realm cho'Gall, check capitalization and spelling.
16:18.35MolfsontanOh fuck
16:18.38MolfsontanI forgot about that thing
16:18.38Faethe@realmstatus US Shadowmoon
16:18.38[Wheaties]Realm status for Shadowmoon (PVP) - Status: Down
16:18.50ari5av@realmstatus eu gul'dan
16:18.51FaetheDamn you Shadowmoon.
16:18.53[Wheaties]Realm status for Gul'dan (PvP) - Status: Up
16:18.56ari5avyay :D
16:19.03FaetheSo this is goodbye?
16:19.05Faethe:(~
16:19.12ari5avFaethe: try eu
16:19.18ari5av@realmstatus eu shadowmoon
16:19.19Molfsontan@realmstatus us Cho'gall
16:19.21[Wheaties]Could not find realm shadowmoon, check capitalization and spelling.
16:19.21[Wheaties]Could not find realm Cho'Gall, check capitalization and spelling.
16:19.21ari5avoh
16:19.25ari5avwait nvm
16:19.32Molfsontan@realmstatus us Cho' gall
16:19.32[Wheaties]Could not find realm Cho' gall, check capitalization and spelling.
16:19.39barbonguys somesone know death note?
16:19.41MolfsontanWhy the hell did Gul'dan work?
16:19.51MolfsontanOverrated anime?
16:19.54ari5avbecause we're awesome like that.
16:19.58EreshShiver. http://myimmortalrehost.webs.com/chapters122.htm
16:20.07EreshDeath Note is okay
16:20.17FaetheThe only anime I watch is Avatar: The Last Airbender
16:20.19kuinkittyAll anime = shietz
16:20.21barbonwatch this
16:20.23barbonkira play wow
16:20.24barbonhttp://lh4.ggpht.com/_3LPtjBvyrZA/SyqrZdfc97I/AAAAAAAAAO8/0UPck2YyNqo/death%20note.jpg
16:20.25kuinkittyRIGHT JUIPPIS-KUIPPIS?
16:20.30EreshAvatar? *gurgle*
16:20.34Faethelol.
16:20.36MolfsontanHurr hurr
16:20.37MolfsontanSo funny
16:20.37Faetheinorite?
16:20.42EreshAvatar is not anime
16:20.46FaetheI know I know.
16:20.48MolfsontanPrivate servers are cool, bro
16:21.00fewynprivate servers earn bans yo
16:21.03FaetheThe only anime I used to really like only made a few episodes
16:21.07FaetheCat Girl Nuku Nuku
16:21.23Molfsontanfewyn: You saw the ss, right?
16:21.24fewynDomh: EXXXXTENDED MAINTANCE
16:21.26fewynyes
16:21.52*** topic/#wowhead by fewyn -> Welcome to the official Wowhead channel - IRC rules/stats at http://www.wowhead.com/?irc - This is a family friendly chat. | Extended Maintance 1PM PDT
16:21.58DomhI see.
16:21.59ari5avdoh!
16:22.05DomhGood to know then
16:22.08EreshI fanboii Higurashi no Naku Koro ni, CANAAN and Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei
16:22.09FaetheThats for Europe, right?
16:22.12fewynno
16:22.14fewynit's tuesday
16:22.15Molfsontan[Bare Flesh by Joe Kickass on Mind Joe]
16:22.19fewynyou guys get no patch this week
16:22.20Molfsontan^ Pretty good
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16:22.34EreshNot to mention Bokusatsu Tenshi Dokuro-chan
16:22.36Owkkuri[18:22:26] You have added the pet Frigid Frostling to your collection.
16:22.36fewynhttp://anime.fewyn.net/
16:22.37Owkkuri:D
16:22.45fewynnot up to date
16:22.46FaetheGrats
16:22.53Owkkurita
16:23.01EreshI am very scared
16:23.04DomhNo patch?  Why is my patch downloader talking about 3.3.5 then?
16:23.18ari5avfewyn: good LORD
16:23.19fewynDomh
16:23.20DomhAnd my vversion ingame is showing 3.3.5
16:23.23fewynNA gets patch
16:23.25fewynEU does not
16:23.28DomhOh
16:23.29fewynor TW
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16:23.31fewynor KR
16:23.33fewynor anyone
16:23.35Skajkadamn...
16:23.35fewynjust NA
16:23.36DomhSorry about that.  Been tabbing in and out
16:23.40fewyneveryone else is next week
16:23.51FaetheRegardless, we're not getting Ruby Sanctum until Europe and the rest do.
16:23.51fewynit's to make sure the servers don't explode from RealID
16:23.54Faethe:)~~~~
16:23.55fewynyes
16:23.59fewynwhat Faethe just said
16:24.22fewynwe are the guinea pigs
16:24.32EreshAnd the Eurofags like me clap their little hands.
16:24.35FaetheSo the only REAL part of the patch is RealID
16:24.49ari5avdammit we were promised ruby sanctum by 3.3.5 >:(
16:24.50FaetheSee what I did thar?
16:24.54Parall4xIt's too bad, we'll probably never see instances in Wyrmrest for all of the dragon flights unless they actually intend to put >80 level instances in Northrend post-Cataclysm.
16:25.22Domhari5av, not technicallly we weren't.  Plus they noted that it would be delayed a while ago
16:25.29ari5avParall4x: i wouldn't be surprised if they did.  there's already 70 and 80 dungeons in the old world
16:25.34ari5avnothing 80 in outland though
16:25.49FaetheAnyone ever try Aion? I think wow should take their idea of Channel Phasing.
16:25.50DomhSure there is.  Ahune
16:25.58Parall4xOny is an interesting exception.
16:26.03fewynari5av: we get ruby sanctum next week
16:26.14fewynthey are delaying it for world first reasons basically
16:26.17Parall4xBut we're talking about *new* instances in a continent that doesn't include zones for that level.
16:26.18ari5avahune doesn't count, he's a holiday boss
16:26.39ari5avnext week?  sigh, ok *grumble*
16:26.43fewynyea
16:26.52fewynsince everyone else in the world doesn't get 3.3.5 this week
16:27.00ari5avoh
16:27.01fewynas i said we're being the guinea pigs for the realid
16:27.09ari5avto give everyone a chance for the world first
16:27.11fewynyes
16:27.24fewynWORLD FIRSTS ARE SRS BZNS
16:27.27ari5avlame.  there should be a region first achievement for stuff
16:27.34EreshThen amuse yourself with this fine piece of *cough* literature while you're waiting: http://myimmortalrehost.webs.com/chapters122.htm
16:27.43ari5avEresh: saw it, unimpressed
16:27.48ari5ava bit scared, tbh
16:28.00ari5avoh oh oh
16:28.06ari5avfewyn you are a programmer yes?
16:28.11EreshThat's the point - around ch22 it gets worse
16:28.14fewynnot really
16:28.18ari5av...
16:28.19ari5avdamn
16:28.26ari5avi'm trying to figure something out in latex
16:28.29barbonsome blizzard admin here?
16:28.33fewynno
16:28.37barbonlol.
16:28.50ari5avblizzard admins don't (vocally) hang out here
16:29.08fewynyou never know there could be one lurking but i doubt it
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16:29.21ari5avi am ghostcrawler
16:29.28Parall4xWhy limit it to admins? Any Blizzard employee could be sitting around, even in their recreational life, in here.
16:29.40barbonfor spy us?
16:29.44barbonD:
16:29.47FaetheLOL
16:29.50FaetheITS A CONSPIRACY
16:29.52EreshIMPERSONATION. HALP.
16:29.53Faethe<_<
16:29.59ari5avTHE RUSSIANS ARE ATTACKING
16:30.03ari5avDUCK AND COVER
16:30.16barbonRUN RUN FOR YOUR LIFE
16:30.20FaetheIn Solviet Russia, Blizz Employees own you.
16:30.33ari5avFaethe: they pretty much do here too
16:30.40Faethelol
16:30.42barbonthey are attaking with kamikaze hamsters!!!
16:30.45barboncover!
16:30.48barbon*boom*
16:30.56Faethestops drops and rolls.
16:31.24barbonthe blizard central work with runing hamsters right?
16:32.16barbon*blizzard
16:32.28Faetheshrugs. Who knows?
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16:32.41FaetheWB Molf.
16:32.41ari5avno
16:33.12ari5avit's run by nerds on treadmills running after prerelease copies of diablo 3
16:33.30ari5avugh
16:33.33barbonlol
16:33.35FaetheI want pancakes.
16:33.44ari5avdammit, we need RTL support in latex RIGHT NOW
16:33.53barbonwhen i played in retail i play in crushridge
16:33.54ari5avactually, just full unicode support would be pretty cool
16:34.02barboncalled soon "crash-ridge"
16:34.06barbonxD
16:34.23barbonbecause i join when there was a lot of server problems
16:35.04barbonlike the problem of ship of BB
16:35.25barbonthat looped and freezed under stonetalon mountain texture
16:36.03Juippiskuinkitty: what, is there some animefag in my channel?
16:36.21Juippiswatching is anime is worse than killing your own child
16:36.24Juippisand that's pretty sick
16:37.53fewynwhat's wrong with anime?!
16:37.57barbonhttp://lh3.ggpht.com/_3LPtjBvyrZA/SyqrZqR2-yI/AAAAAAAAAPE/BFIvlJ3pewU/s640/technologyhh0.jpg
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16:39.29blademeldgrabs Corgan by the third leg
16:39.35blademeldHAPPY BIRTHDAY YOU HIPPY
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16:43.04RawsSome hall closet door hinges downstairs just got a righteous, almost vengeful, coating of WD40
16:43.41blademeldRaws ejaculates WD400
16:46.17blademeldRaws: it's raining here
16:46.19blademeld:<
16:46.25blademeldI wanted to go for a walk with my dog
16:46.36blademeld@weather report caxx0295
16:46.37[Wheaties]Location: Mississauga, Canada - Updated at: 6/22/10 12:31 PM Local Time - Temp: 70F (21C) - Feels like: 70F (21C) - Wind: SE 7 MPH - Conditions: Light Rain
16:46.50blademeldlight rain, lol
16:46.57fewyn@weather report 32780
16:46.58[Wheaties]Location: Titusville, FL (32780) - Updated at: 6/22/10 11:48 AM EDT - Temp: 88F (31C) - Feels like: 95F (35C) - Wind: ESE 12 MPH - Conditions: Partly Cloudy
16:47.12ari5avblademeld: 21C is nice
16:47.16barbon@weather report barbon
16:47.17[Wheaties]City code not found.
16:47.19ari5avit's millions of degrees here :(
16:47.20blademeldfewyn: that's an awesome name for a town
16:47.22barbon@weather report Vicenza
16:47.22[Wheaties]City code not found.
16:47.26ari5av@weather report 33496
16:47.26[Wheaties]Location: Boca Raton, FL (33496) - Updated at: 6/22/10 11:52 AM EDT - Temp: 91F (32C) - Feels like: 102F (38C) - Wind: ESE 14 MPH - Conditions: Partly Cloudy
16:47.29blademeldari5av: 21 is 3C too hot for me
16:47.35Faethe@weather St. Catharines, Canada
16:47.39ari5avyeah, 18 would be about right
16:47.42ari5avit's 32 here
16:47.46ari5avwhich is balls-ass hot
16:47.55ari5avactually
16:47.56barbon@weather report 36010
16:47.56[Wheaties]Location: Brundidge, AL (36010) - Updated at: 6/22/10 10:53 AM CDT - Temp: 87F (30C) - Feels like: 94F (34C) - Wind: SE 7 MPH - Conditions: Fair
16:47.56blademeld@weather search St. Catherines, Canada
16:47.56[Wheaties]City not found.
16:48.02blademeld@weather search St. Catharines, Canada
16:48.03[Wheaties]Saint Catharines, Canada (CAXX0416), Saint Catharines Arpt, Canada (CAXX0417)
16:48.09ari5ava friend of mine came up with a technical definition of the term balls-ass hot
16:48.10Faethethere!
16:48.15blademeld@weather report caxx0416
16:48.15[Wheaties]Location: Saint Catharines, Canada - Updated at: 6/22/10 12:00 PM Local Time - Temp: 79F (26C) - Feels like: 82F (27C) - Wind: S 12 MPH - Conditions: Mostly Cloudy
16:48.17barbonwhat is the code of italy?
16:48.26ari5avit's the temperature of that place that's not quite your balls and not quite your ass
16:48.27Faethecheers
16:48.29blademeldbarbon: do a @weather search town name, country
16:48.30ari5av@weather help
16:48.45ari5av@weather search vicenza, italy
16:48.45[Wheaties]Vicenza, Italy (ITXX0088)
16:48.52ari5av@weather report ITXX0088
16:48.53[Wheaties]Location: Vicenza, Italy - Updated at: 6/22/10 5:55 PM Local Time - Temp: 77F (25C) - Feels like: 76F (24C) - Wind: WSW 1 MPH - Conditions: Partly Cloudy
16:49.04barbon@wather search chiuppano, italy
16:49.13barbon@weather search chiuppano, italy
16:49.14[Wheaties]City not found.
16:49.17ari5av@weather search jerusalem, israel
16:49.17[Wheaties]Jerusalem, Israel (ISXX0010)
16:49.20Molfsontan@weather search Sicily, Italy
16:49.20[Wheaties]City not found.
16:49.25ari5av@weather report ISXX0010
16:49.25[Wheaties]Location: Jerusalem, Israel - Updated at: 6/22/10 6:50 PM Local Time - Temp: 82F (27C) - Feels like: 86F (30C) - Wind: WSW 14 MPH - Conditions: Fair
16:49.26Faethe@realmstatus US Shadowmoon
16:49.26[Wheaties]Realm status for Shadowmoon (PVP) - Status: Down
16:49.29Faethe:(~
16:50.01ari5avFaethe: 2100 GMT
16:50.09ari5aver
16:50.10Faethehmm?
16:50.10ari5avBST
16:50.15ari5av2000 UTC
16:50.34FaetheI'm gonna go find some food :)
16:50.40Molfsontan@weather search Berlin, Germany
16:50.41[Wheaties]Berlin, Germany (GMXX0007), Berlin/Schonefeld, Germany (GMXX0008), Berlin-Tempelhof, Germany (GMXX0151), Berlin-West, Germany (GMXX1273), Schoneiche/Berlin, Germany (GMXX0956), Birkenwerder bei Berlin, Germany (GMXX1137), Bernau bei Berlin, Germany (GMXX4279), Marienfelde, Germany (GMXX0083)
16:50.48Molfsontan@weather report GMXX0007
16:50.49[Wheaties]Location: Berlin, Germany - Updated at: 6/22/10 6:20 PM Local Time - Temp: 72F (22C) - Feels like: 72F (22C) - Wind: NW 10 MPH - Conditions: Fair
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16:51.07mickeyhello all
16:51.19barbon@weather search Venzia, Italy
16:51.19[Wheaties]City not found.
16:51.22FaetheHi :)
16:51.23barbon@weather search Venezia, Italy
16:51.23[Wheaties]City not found.
16:51.27FaetheK food. Hungry. Bye
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16:52.14mickeyany dk unholy tanks on
16:52.24blademeldmickey: I thought those were extinct
16:52.27blademeldbut ask away
16:52.32blademeldI may have your answer
16:53.15mickeylol i have 5 80's the 5th being my dk and im thinking of making him a dk tank
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16:53.53mickeymy question is if i stack dodge and parry it makes me think i can have a lower hp pool
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16:55.05mickeyso if im avoiding all or most of the hits then a big hp pool is not a big deal right
16:55.29blademeldmickey: two things
16:55.32blademeldwell
16:55.33blademeldthree
16:55.34blademeldactually
16:55.39blademeldit applies to all tanks
16:55.51blademeldspell damage is not mitigated by dodge/parry
16:55.56blademeldavoidance is random
16:56.04blademeldand there's diminishing returns on avoidance
16:56.10blademeldalso
16:56.13blademeldas a Death Knight
16:56.16blademeldyou never stack parry
16:56.28blademeldbecause you have a passive that gives you a lot of parry
16:56.38blademeldBlood tanks would be ideal
16:57.30mickeyok so dodge and stam would be a better idea
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16:58.35mickeyim not a big fan of blood just dont like the feel of it
16:58.51DjaneThat's an interesting sentence to walk in on.
16:58.58mickeylol
17:00.13mickeyjust trying to figure out what to do with my dkk
17:00.17mickeydk*
17:01.05mickeyi would delete but already got his epic flying so sad there was a time i like'd my dk very much
17:01.09blademeldmickey: most DKs and tanks just stack pure stamina in gems
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17:01.37mickey]yeah but im of the thought there has to be more to it
17:02.23mickeyit cant just be get def cap and stack stam that seams so off compared to how it was in bc
17:02.43DjaneEh.
17:02.47DjaneGemming isn't a big part of gearing a tank.
17:03.00Djanegemming and enchanting that is.
17:03.21DjaneYou have to balance def, expertise and hit around your gear. Whilst technically yes, you can just get def capped and not care about anything else.
17:03.46Ac-towngemming and enchanting do play a part for every class
17:04.01blademeldmickey: in BC avoidance tanks worked because there was no diminishing returns
17:04.03DjaneSure, but a minor part.
17:04.20blademeldpeople had 80-90% pure avoidance by end of BT
17:04.27Ac-townDjane: for a tank, yeah
17:04.30blademeldwhich was stupid
17:04.41DjaneAc-town, any class.
17:04.51blademeldDjane: why won't you love me in the pants?
17:04.55DjaneI prefer oral.
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17:05.35DjaneAc-town, let's see, 14 gem slots.
17:05.51*** join/#wowhead rcfreak0 (~rcfreak0@25.76.225.166.in-addr.arpa)
17:05.55Djanethat's 14x23 sp, or 14x10haste/12sp
17:06.16Djane322sp, i'm rocking 3.2k sp in raids on my mage, +demo lock/wrath of air etc.
17:06.18DjaneSo 10%
17:06.30DjaneWhich is obviously desirably, but not really important.
17:06.32mickeyok i think i have a good under standing now as always thank you all for the help
17:06.38blademeldmickey: any time
17:07.00DjaneFor a tank that's at most 420stam. Just over 10% on my pretty well geared tank, again, desirable but not significant.
17:07.13DjaneConsidering on my mage i do approximately 30% more dps than -any- threshold dps requirement in the game.
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17:07.26Djaneand my protadin could survive anything in it's current tier of content.
17:07.43DjaneWhilst gems and enchants are obviously lovely, you could easily ignore them and still achieve the requirements of your class.
17:07.43blademeldDjane: BLUE GEARED ICC 10 RAIDS
17:07.51blademeldEYE <3 GREEDY GOBLIN
17:07.53Djaneblademeld, doable, except for tanks.
17:08.29DjaneFestergut would be impossible without at least 40k health.
17:08.40blademeldhttp://greedygoblin.blogspot.com/search/label/Undergeared
17:08.47DjaneICC10 raids in algalon gear, doable. blues? not so much
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17:09.10blademeldDjane: festergut done
17:09.11blademeldlol
17:09.13blademeldstarspun: HI
17:09.30blademeldDjane: as you can see, they got to VD
17:09.31blademeldin blues
17:09.52starspunHI BLADEMELD
17:10.05Djaneblademeld, ahh I wasn't talking with the buff.
17:10.24DjaneWith the 20%, then yes, I can see it doable, since i'd say the gear move from i200 to i232 is probably about 20% or so.
17:11.18RawsI can see you doable
17:11.27Raws(???)
17:11.29blademeldlol
17:11.33kuinkittyWith hammer?
17:11.35kuinkittyYay
17:12.53blademeldthrusts a hammer into kuinkitty
17:13.04Mowseyhawt
17:13.18mickeyi have a warrior tank ive been working on and hes a good off tank im at 37k unbuffed health should i stack more stam or go for dodge/parry
17:13.39blademeldmickey: more stam
17:13.50kadrahilyou generally don't gem for dodge/parry at all
17:14.11kuinkittyI gem for lulz
17:14.13kadrahiljust acquire that from stats on your gear
17:14.17blademeldmickey: http://www.awkwardzombie.com/comic1-060710.php
17:14.19kuinkitty10lulz/15rofl
17:14.22kuinkittyBest gems
17:14.41kadrahilno u
17:14.48mickeytell me what u think  http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Vek%27nilash&cn=Jaçkßurton
17:15.24kuinkittyI think I need a shower
17:15.37blademeldI think kuinkitty's going for a golden shower
17:15.38kuinkittyMore expertise
17:15.44kuinkittyWay more
17:15.52kadrahilget the stam/resilience shoulder enchant from honor
17:15.56kadrahilit's like 10k honor
17:16.03kuinkittyYeah
17:16.05blademeldmickey: your helmet sockets make me cry
17:16.06kadrahiland more stam is better than the dodge/defense
17:16.18blademeldand your chest
17:16.20blademeldsobs
17:16.24kadrahil...
17:16.25kadrahilwhy
17:16.32kadrahilwould you not use your nightmare tear to gain the socket bonus
17:16.51kuinkittyRather use 10Exp/15sta
17:16.54FaetheMmmm Little Caesar's Pizza
17:16.56kuinkittySince you are under DODGE cap
17:17.35kadrahilyou could throw another exp/stam purple in your helm
17:17.38kadrahiland gain that socket bonus
17:17.44mickeylol didint think of that for helm that is
17:18.13kuinkittyYou should get the 245 triumph helm
17:18.18kuinkittyPropably 176 times better
17:18.41mickeyok so ill fix the socket for the helm  to get bonus
17:18.45kuinkitty@char EU Kilrogg Katyperry
17:18.47[Wheaties]Katyperry, Level 80 Night Elf Female Warrior (15/3/53):  Armor: 27840; Armor Reduction %: 64.64; Block %: 15.28; Defense: 400.00+157; Dodge %: 28.08; Parry %: 21.31; Resilience: 15.00; Health: 44226; Melee Haste %: 0.00; Katyperry's Wowhead Profile: http://tinyurl.com/34j4rmy - WowArmory Profile: http://tinyurl.com/yg86uy6
17:18.51kadrahiland fix your chest sockets too
17:18.52kuinkittyThat's mah warrior
17:19.16kadrahil@char us stormreaver kadshin
17:19.18[Wheaties]Kadshin, Level 35 Orc Female Warrior (26/0/0):  Resilience: 0.00; Health: 1789; Melee Crit: 12.52; Melee Haste %: 0.00; Melee Hit %: 0.00; Weapon Damage: 177-217; Weapon DPS: 59.6; Weapon Speed: 3.30; Attack Power: 399; Kadshin's Wowhead Profile: http://tinyurl.com/36r5ujq - WowArmory Profile: http://tinyurl.com/39d2yyn
17:19.20kadrahil:D
17:19.23Faethe@char US Shadowmoon Faethe
17:19.27[Wheaties]Faethe, Level 80 Draenei Female Hunter (0/55/16):  Resilience: 1177.00; Health: 26464; Mana: 13931; Ranged Crit %: 40.65; Ranged Damage: 1640-2003; Ranged DPS: 748.0; Ranged Haste %: 0.00; Ranged Hit %: 5.34; Ranged Attack Power: 5103; Ranged Attack Speed: 2.43; MP5: 0.00; Faethe's Wowhead Profile: http://tinyurl.com/32xmodk - WowArmory Profile: http://tinyurl.com/3y5dy8l
17:19.35kuinkittymickey, you should really fix your spec too
17:19.57kuinkittyThere are like, only few encounters atm where Safeguard is good
17:20.27mickeywhat u have in mind
17:21.25mickeylike is the 15/3/53 a better spec
17:21.39mickeyand how is my glyphs
17:21.51kuinkitty15/3/53 is propably the best raid tanking spec, but with little modifications
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17:22.39mickeyok so lose safeguard and put points where
17:22.48kuinkittyhttp://www.wowhead.com/talent#LAM00fZhZmItrx0didIzsho:dobzMo
17:22.51kuinkittyThis is what I use
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17:23.43*** join/#wowhead OscarDivine (~FrankieWo@9.suh52.nycm.n54ny31ur.dsl.att.net)
17:23.57OscarDivine@ realmstatus us alexstrasza
17:23.58[Wheaties]Realm status for Alexstrasza (PVE) - Status: Down
17:24.19OscarDivine@ realmstatus US Twisting Nether
17:24.19[Wheaties]Realm status for Twisting Nether (RPPVP) - Status: Down
17:24.19kuinkitty@realmstatus Amuuricaa Fak yeahaa!!!
17:24.22DuviddAren't all US realms down?
17:24.26OscarDivinejust checking
17:24.30OscarDivinesometimes they come up early
17:24.38mickeyok and stack more exp right
17:24.40DuviddAh, yeah. That happened here last week. (EU)
17:24.50kuinkittymickey, yes
17:24.59kuinkittyTry to get _at least_ 26
17:25.10OscarDivine26 whats?
17:25.15kuinkittyExpertise
17:25.21mickeywhat should my dodge parry be
17:25.21OscarDivineoh
17:25.22Djaneblademeld, i see no festergut kill on that blog.
17:25.32Djanerotface, yes.
17:25.35blademeldDjane: it's under rotface
17:25.42DjaneNo, that's saurfang
17:25.44kuinkittymickey, Focus more on armor and stamina
17:25.54DjaneIn order
17:26.09OscarDivineblademeld: my son's Baek-il is coming up.  It's gonna be Korean food and Dduk fest!!!
17:26.19OscarDivinebrb patients...
17:26.28mickeyok so after i get exp at 26 work on armor then stam
17:26.44DjaneValithria, BPC, Rotface, Saurfang. They speak of trying fester, but don't have enough dps for it.
17:26.51kuinkittymickey, get the 245 helm from Triumphs and you are good with expertise
17:27.10blademeldDjane: huh
17:27.10mickeyok kool i can do that :P
17:27.16blademeldDjane: so you're right
17:27.20blademeldI must have misread it
17:27.23blademeldOscarDivine: grats!
17:27.37Djaneblademeld, I'm fairly sure it's mathmatically impossible
17:28.24mickeyok you guys ready to talk enh shammy ??
17:28.27blademeldDjane: "We died because "healers stay melee range to get spores" is sometimes hard."
17:28.31blademeldmickey: eh
17:28.42Djaneblademeld, whilst true they also state only 2/3rds the dps requirements.
17:28.55Djanes/they also state/they also state they/
17:29.00Djanebah, +had
17:29.05`vipI'm a newly 80 Enh Sham ... so far it's fun
17:29.12DjaneYou need 32k rdps for fester, they state 24.8k
17:29.16Djanethat's a lot of ground to make up.
17:29.21`vipbut i'm having to gem at pow till I get better gear :/
17:29.46blademeldmickey: http://www.wowhead.com/profile=21484624
17:30.00mickeymy main is a enh shammy and i wana see if there is any think im doing wrong lol
17:30.01Faethetakes a sip of her ginger ale.
17:30.07mickeyhttp://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Vek%27nilash&cn=Cyclönejack
17:30.18occytakes a sip of Faethe
17:30.19blademeldthrows in an ice cube into Faethe's drink
17:30.26FaetheThanks :D
17:30.27blademeldoccy: how is it?
17:30.35occyblademeld: om nom nom
17:30.41Faethechases the icecube with her straw.
17:30.43FaetheI'm bored.
17:30.59occyyar
17:30.59Faethe-_-
17:31.00occysame
17:31.15occyI gotta work tonight... QQ
17:31.17occyon my day off.
17:31.24FaetheMy work gave me Tuesday and Wednesday off.
17:31.26FaetheFML
17:31.31occyFaethe: fail
17:31.35Faethei know :(~
17:31.47blademeldI don't believe the weather reporters in my area can differentiate light and heavy rain
17:31.56blademeld@weather report caxx0295
17:31.56[Wheaties]Location: Mississauga, Canada - Updated at: 6/22/10 1:23 PM Local Time - Temp: 66F (18C) - Feels like: 66F (18C) - Wind: ESE 3 MPH - Conditions: Heavy Rain
17:31.59blademeldoh
17:32.01blademeldthey changed it
17:32.03occyAny multiboxers here?
17:32.03FaetheApparently, we're in for a big storm, blade.
17:32.17FaetheIts getting pretty dark here, in St. Catharines.
17:32.28occy<-- Has 2x Druids (Bear/Tree) ready to step into ICC10
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17:32.48FaetheI love watching Multi-box shamans 2 shot stuff in BG's
17:32.49blademeldFaethe: ugh
17:32.53blademeldraiiiin
17:32.54blademeld:<
17:32.57FaetheYeah I know hon.
17:33.04FaetheI picked up a little caesar's pizza
17:33.08Faetheand I'm in my snuggie.
17:33.08occyblademeld: umbrella++
17:33.09FaetheLOL
17:33.21mickeybeen raiding icc 10man 2 nites a week stuck on the professer
17:33.22blademeldoccy: I don't have one
17:33.24FaetheRainy days = lazy faethe.
17:33.27occyFaethe: you need a reverse snuggie
17:33.29blademeldI'd rather be hit by rain than use one
17:33.44blademeldoccy: you mean a bathrobe?
17:33.46blademeldalso
17:33.49FaetheA reverse snuggie = a robe?
17:33.51Faethelol
17:33.53occyFaethe: arms are tucked in, but tehre's access to your legs
17:33.54blademeldmy neighbour's dog walker is going out
17:33.56occywait, what?
17:33.58FaethexD
17:33.58occyhides
17:34.05blademeldin this rain
17:34.05blademeldlol
17:34.16Faethehere comes the rain.
17:34.17blademeldmy dog hates the rain
17:34.22blademeldshe won't go out
17:34.22occyChocolate Rain?
17:34.23blademeld:D
17:34.25FaetheLOL
17:34.27Faethe@
17:34.29FaetheChocolate Rain
17:34.47ArkaenHeavy rain
17:34.52FaetheMy favorite is - Look at my horse my horse is amazing
17:34.55FaetheGIVE IT A LICK
17:35.01FaetheMMMM -- It tastes just like raisins.
17:35.02blademeldI'm on a horse
17:35.05starspunHeavy Rain <3
17:35.19occymy friend, who happens to be African American, was telling me how his wife had never heard of Chocolate Rain until a few days ago...  I made a remark about how she hadn't seen that before?
17:35.42Faethehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUl9_5kK9ts
17:36.49occyrealms should be coming up soon I'd think
17:36.55mickeyhey blademeld so with that link what if i get the badge 245 helm do i still need the exp gem
17:36.59occyunless it's one of those Tuesdays that turn into Wednesday
17:37.09blademeldmickey: there's one in the pants
17:37.11blademeld:3
17:37.17`viphey mickey you there?
17:37.19Corganung
17:37.25mickeyyep
17:37.30blademeldCorgan: happy birthday you hippy
17:37.33`vipcan i pm?
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17:37.41mickeysure
17:37.46Corganteehee
17:38.56blademeldCorgan: so how are you celebrating?
17:39.49CorganDinner with family and gf
17:39.51Corgan^_^
17:40.23blademeldThe quiet yet awesome parties
17:40.32Corganmmhmm
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17:41.20starspunCorgan :O Happy birthday.
17:41.59*** join/#wowhead Malgayne (~caseymonr@adsl-68-123-239-227.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net)
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17:42.01RawsC.O.R.G.A.N
17:42.06RawsIs sorta old
17:42.07robokittypounces Corgie
17:43.30Keshy-Hmm
17:43.31blademeldhello Malgayne
17:43.43Keshy-Where do I go if I want to report a bug with Wowhead?
17:43.58MalgayneMostly you tell me about it
17:44.03Faethelets out a long drawn-out sigh.
17:44.15MalgayneBut if you don't have the convenience of IRC there's a "Feedback" link on the top right of every page :D
17:44.29ari5avwhat's the bug you see?
17:44.47Keshy-I must be both blind and stupid...
17:44.53blademeldKeshy-: there's also the report button on the top right on each page
17:44.57blademeldoh
17:44.59blademeldlol
17:45.02blademeldI should read
17:45.03Keshy-Yeah I noticed
17:45.07robokittyIs that 'Did you know we have a Midsummer Festival guide' thingie supposed to pop up constantly? :3
17:45.14Keshy-There's a huge button that reads "FEEDBACK"
17:45.23Malgaynerobokitty: Only until the first time you close it
17:45.27robokitty:/
17:45.31Keshy-I'll just pop away a mail.
17:45.52MalgayneKeshy: Vague idea what's going on so I know how quickly I need to act?
17:46.18RawsIn short, the ice stone is melting
17:46.25Keshy-There's no urgency needed as it might be hard to code away :p
17:46.38Keshy-But in short:
17:46.57ari5avthe bug is that ruby sanctum isn't out yet. >:(
17:47.10RawsSanctify THIS
17:47.14blademeldthe bug is that ari5av's not paying for my WoW
17:47.28blademeldsanctifies Raws' toenails
17:47.48ari5avi'm already paying for someone else's besides myself
17:47.56ari5avget a job, hippie
17:48.00RawsBlessed toenails, hallowed be thy keratin
17:48.09ari5avthy fungus come
17:48.23Rawsnas-t
17:48.53ari5avKeshy-: how short is this problem, you've been typing for YEARS
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17:49.14Keshy-I popped a PM to Malgayne
17:49.18ari5avoh :(
17:49.22Keshy-:p
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17:50.05AzrielWhats up people
17:50.17AzrielAnyone know if a ventrilo server where we can vent till wow comes back up?
17:50.42ari5avi should host a mumble server somewhere
17:50.55AzrielI have a bunch of vent servers
17:51.00AzrielIf you all want to join
17:52.39CorganRaws
17:52.48Corganmy ice stone ism elting
17:52.57RawsYou're getting ~*~older~*~
17:53.06starspunHe's definitely not getting colder.
17:53.08occyI can't get vent to work with my soundcard on Ubuntu for shit
17:53.18starspunConsidering it's melting and all. :O
17:53.19RawsI hope he's getting bolder
17:53.20occypulseaudio--
17:54.21RawsI need to design a new UI for the OS X Vent client
17:54.30RawsI don't use it because I can't stand it
17:54.41rosemountlol hastheicestonemeltedyet.com has changed
17:55.19RawsKONDOR
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18:00.55OscarDivine@realmstatus US alexstrasza
18:00.55[Wheaties]Realm status for Alexstrasza (PVE) - Status: Down
18:00.58CorganRaws: 2hott
18:01.18OscarDivinewow even the login servers are down
18:01.31`vipyeah, extended maintenance today
18:01.33OscarDivinethis patch better be good.  Shame I can't even start DLing it
18:01.39`vipnot up for 2 more hours
18:01.43BiggieSmallsWatch, as your magic BETRAYAYAYAYAYAYS YOU
18:01.45`vipi already dl'd mine ...
18:01.49BiggieSmallslol
18:01.51`vipwhy can't you ?
18:01.57BiggieSmallsdidn't we already download 3.3.5
18:02.02OscarDivinebi udea
18:02.05OscarDivineer no idea
18:02.06BiggieSmallsor is there another part
18:02.15`vipI launched my wow client about an hour ago
18:02.17FaetheThe realms aren't going to be available until 4pm lol.
18:02.18`vipand had a dl
18:02.21FaetheEST
18:02.26`vipyup
18:02.28OscarDivineusually on patch day, my client starts the download, but it won't even let me start it
18:02.31BiggieSmallsI just checked the website
18:02.36CorganHustlin hustlin
18:02.40BiggieSmallsthey put up a 3.3.5 preview
18:02.48OscarDivineah there it is.  Now I'm starting the DL
18:02.53CorganRaws
18:03.00RawsCorgan
18:03.04OscarDivineoh fuck me  2 hours...  My connection sucks.  someone shoot me.
18:03.18CorganiOS4 has orientation lock
18:03.20BiggieSmallsI'm not getting the new download
18:03.25BiggieSmallsshould there be a new one
18:03.25fewyngoogle voice is no longer invite only
18:03.31fewynhttp://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Fvoice&h=6841cWrfYc3CqM63u4-FZViW3wA
18:03.31*** join/#wowhead dubb_ (~dubb@unaffiliated/dubb)
18:03.39OscarDivineI'm getting a new download now
18:03.44Corganfewyn is always behind
18:03.55*** join/#wowhead Pandah (~Pandah@host78-254-dynamic.50-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it)
18:03.57FaetheThe realms won't be available for 2 hours anyways.
18:04.23fewynCorgan it just popped up on facebook
18:04.26OscarDivinelol sadly, I forgot my laptop charging cable at home...  and I'm at 19% battery life now...
18:04.26CorganIt must be hard to post everything to twitter hours late, fewyn
18:04.26Corgan:(
18:04.31OscarDivinemaybe I should conserve...
18:04.37CorganHOURS LATE
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18:05.05AzrielDoes anyone  know the info to an active big ventrilo server for wow?
18:05.10fewynilu2corgan
18:05.13fewynalso happy birthday
18:05.23Corgansuck it
18:05.30OscarDivineI wasn't aware that there were public vent channels?
18:05.37OscarDivineget Skype.  lol
18:05.48FaetheErm?
18:06.01RawsI think he's looking for a public server where there are lots of people to talk to
18:06.11Faetheahh
18:06.18CorganRoss the Boss
18:06.36RawsJon the Don
18:06.37CorganR U HUSTLIN
18:06.39RawsHUSTLIN'
18:06.46DjaneI am
18:06.54Djanenp : Tunng -> Hustle
18:07.03DjaneI shit you not.
18:07.10RawsTuuuunnnnnnggggg
18:07.28Djanecatches bullets in his teeth, in raws's pants
18:07.42RawsTunnf
18:07.56Faethetakes the last sip of her Ginger Ale, prolonging the noise of her empty glass.
18:08.02Faethe:(
18:08.18CorganRaws
18:08.19AzrielNobody knows of a public vent server about wow with tons of people? :(
18:08.20RawsCorgan
18:08.24Corganis listening to The Final Countdown by Europe from The Final Countdown.
18:08.30RawsAzriel: not I, sorry :(
18:08.32Rawslol
18:08.50CorganThis is my ringtone
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18:09.03Corganala Gob from Arrested Development
18:09.06CorganGARY
18:09.10Gary|G1Butts
18:09.23AzrielRight now there is a 250 slot vent server thats full of people talking about wow and I want to be there :(
18:09.24Gary|G1Hi hi hello
18:09.36blademeldhttp://fukung.net/v/11853/c54565724012802874f632030cf55407.jpg
18:09.38*** join/#wowhead TNSe (~evil@ti0042a380-0289.bb.online.no)
18:09.49CorganI woke up to like, 11 facebook notifications
18:09.56MalgayneDoesn't someone run a wowhead vent server?
18:10.03Gary|G1~ping
18:10.04infobot~pong
18:10.10RawsI think there was one, but I have no idea who or where or what
18:10.19Corganand my cat just ran into my face
18:10.27RawsGood job
18:10.45Corgan:(
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18:10.52Gary|G1wait what's up with wow
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18:12.08Gary|G1Test testees
18:12.22Gary|G1Hmm works fine now fdffff
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18:13.02blademeldhello poeticdragon and robokitty
18:13.38BiggieSmallsI can't wait for the chat reform
18:13.42Ac-townme too
18:13.48Ac-towncause I just moved my main
18:13.49poeticdragonhiya
18:13.58Ac-townand its hard to talk to some friends across realms
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18:14.12BiggieSmallsI just hope gms won't ask for real ID bullshit
18:14.19Ac-townlol
18:14.19AzrielI found some huge ventrilo servers.
18:14.24BiggieSmallsit really should be friends only imo
18:14.30Ac-towncause you want to skip raids for SC2?
18:14.35BiggieSmallshaha
18:14.42BiggieSmallsactually just to level my horde alt
18:14.54Ac-townthere might be a hidden mode
18:14.58Ac-townso you can go "offline"
18:15.09BiggieSmallsI think unavailable does that
18:15.12fewynhttp://anime.fewyn.net/ just updated my seen list whieeee
18:15.23NightkillFrom the looks of it Real Id doesn't seem to be an addition to account security ... more less a way to add upon blizzard game socialization
18:15.35Ac-townright
18:15.51BiggieSmallsthe seperate chat window thing
18:15.53BiggieSmallsis so useful
18:16.01Ac-towni know
18:16.04Ac-townI can remove WIM now lol
18:16.06BiggieSmallsI like how it's not immediately an open window
18:16.15Parall4xThe annoying thing is how people are claiming reduced security in WoW because of the integration of RealID.
18:16.16BiggieSmallsbecause that can really be annoying when you pug voa25 or whatever
18:16.19Corganhugs Gary|G1
18:16.30Ac-townI hope I can make whispers a new tab automatically
18:16.35Gary|G1Hi hi
18:16.40BiggieSmallse-mail isn't much security
18:16.40Parall4xThat would be amazing, Ac-town.
18:16.42`vipeh fewyn all that shows for me is a bunch of numbers in chrome :l
18:16.50BiggieSmallsdon't you give that out for guild applications anyways?
18:16.54Ac-townParall4x: like i said, then I have no need for WIM
18:16.59NightkillWell there is the issue of once confirmed RealID friends they can see your full name
18:17.07Corgan.
18:17.17Ac-townNightkill: So only allow people you want to show that too
18:17.18CorganYou realize that RealID friends should only be people that you know/trust
18:17.22Ac-townsuch as irl friends
18:17.28fewyn`vip works fine in chrome for me
18:17.30Ac-townor good in game friends
18:17.31NightkillTrue ... you you know how that will go
18:17.33Rawse.g. people you already know the real names of :P
18:17.37NightkillEveryone will add everyone
18:17.42Nightkilllike facebook
18:17.43dubb_so i have to get irl friends now?! dammit blizzard!
18:17.43Ac-townI wont
18:17.47CorganNightkill, then that's their own fault?
18:17.49Ac-townand you dont need to
18:17.50Parall4xYeah, Nightkill said "confirmed" friends, which is the real key to it.
18:17.56Ac-townso why does it matter?
18:17.57BiggieSmallsbut
18:18.03BiggieSmallspeople on facebook add strangers
18:18.10BiggieSmallsthey really don't care
18:18.10BiggieSmallslol
18:18.13`vipwhat version of chrome do you have, fewyn ?
18:18.21`vipI'm using 6.0.437.3
18:18.37dubb_a bunch of numbers in firefox too
18:18.38MalgayneYeah when strangers add me on facebook I send them a "who the hell are you" message :P
18:18.38BiggieSmallsI usually don't add people unless I know who they are
18:18.39Gary|G1So...don't accept them
18:18.45fewyni'm running dev channel
18:18.53`vipnice dubb_ .. now I know im not the only one ;l
18:18.57`vipyeah, same fewyn
18:19.07CorganFewyn, your shits broke
18:19.08Gary|G1You all need to stop being whoney bitches
18:19.14Corganhttp://dump.corgasm.org/3PWjG5.png
18:19.18fewynwhy does it work for me :s
18:19.19BiggieSmallsthis ruby sanctum gear is amazin
18:19.23BiggieSmallsg
18:19.27RawsSafari doesn't display raw XML as a hierarchy
18:19.30fewynwait
18:19.31Parall4xYeah
18:19.32`vipthats what it shows for me too Corgan
18:19.33fewynhrm
18:19.35Parall4xJust like chrome.
18:19.36fewynstrange
18:19.37RawsWell, webkit in general
18:19.39fewynshouldn't show it that way
18:19.43RawsJust view source
18:19.47Parall4x^this
18:20.02Corganit has an xsl thinger, but yeah
18:20.08Rawsfewyn: is there an xslt to go along with it or something
18:20.09Corgan(shit's broke)
18:20.10Rawsoh
18:20.16Ac-town!weather 97330
18:20.18FreyjaCorvallis, Oregon (44.6N/123.3W); Updated: 11:16 AM PDT (June 22, 2010); Conditions: Mostly Cloudy; Temperature: 64.5F (18.1C); High/Low: 76/52F (24/11C); UV: 5/16; Humidity: 69%; Dew Point: 54F (12C); Pressure: 30.10 in/1019.2 hPa; Wind: ENE at 6.0 MPH (9.7 KPH)
18:20.19fewynah
18:20.21Corganfewyn, design something better, like http://dump.corgasm.org/xKr34g.png
18:20.22CorganGOD
18:20.22fewynthe export is broken
18:20.25BiggieSmallsmmo-chump is lagging like a beast
18:20.32fewyni didn't create it corgan
18:20.36fewynit's from anidb.net export
18:20.38CorganI know you didn't
18:20.41Corgangod
18:20.46Corganyou think i'm retarded or something
18:20.47CorganG
18:20.47fewynGOD
18:20.48CorganO
18:20.48CorganD
18:20.55fewynyou aren't retarded?
18:21.04fewynNEWS TO ME
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18:21.10CorganHEY MAN
18:21.12AzrielDude, I like found the LSPD of policei n games ventrilo server
18:21.14Corgan(NICE SHOT)
18:21.16AzrielIm like wtf?
18:21.19Azriellol!!!
18:22.36fewyni guess i'll reexport it in a different template :(
18:22.53Corganmore like reexport in fail
18:24.31blademeldhttp://fukung.net/v/9430/youwhat.jpg
18:27.05Parall4xgags.
18:27.55blademeldParall4x: http://fukung.net/v/9473/8af2fbdb544057433a5344161f84f4ea.jpg
18:28.08Parall4xThere is an excellent chance of me opening that.
18:28.15Parall4xAnd by excellent, I of course mean none.
18:29.28blademeldParall4x: you need to open http://fukung.net/v/17484/4ffbeb28bcc33fa4cf6ce6d5061cf495.jpg
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18:29.49Parall4xI lol'd.
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18:31.02blademeldhttp://fukung.net/v/28198/35c867802b2e26d5e7b877ae9dfc2ff4.jpg
18:32.22Parall4xI remember when schools suddenly got all uptight about having extra items on desks during tests because of that. They're just as lax as they used to be now, though.
18:35.29dubb_http://fukung.net/v/20895/you-have-no-friends.jpg :(
18:35.40rosemounthttp://i45.tinypic.com/r9lhfs.jpg
18:35.48rosemountmost recent, taken like 5 minutes ago
18:36.43BiggieSmallshttp://fukung.net/v/17647/8056f425d0d61c1bf26c69b735a46e47.gif
18:38.08fewyni have 93 friends!
18:42.20AzrielI have 0
18:42.31AzrielWe got alot in common
18:42.36AzrielI think we can make this work
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18:47.45RilgonPeople who try to make RealID something that it was not designed to be and then get bent out of shape when they're informed of such make me want to drink heavily
18:48.24RawsPeople […] make me want to drink heavily
18:48.48RilgonI was trying to obfuscate my hatred for everyone, Raws
18:48.55RilgonI'm trying that whole "be nice" thing
18:49.03RawsMy job is to cut through to the point
18:49.22RilgonI was about to ask if you were a lawyer, but that's about the exact opposite of what a lawyer does
18:49.23RawsAs a designer, I cannot risk obfuscating my message
18:49.24Rilgonso
18:49.33DjaneRilgon, what?
18:49.40RawsLawyers would be outta business if obfuscation wasn't their profession
18:50.24RilgonDjane: People who want to use RealID for like... virtually everyone they know in-game, and then throw a hissy-fit when they're told that the explicit design goal of it is to only be used with people you know on a RL basis already
18:50.49DjaneRilgon, eh, on what basis can't you use it for anyone you want?
18:50.58RilgonLike, I'm adding three people as RealID friends - my younger brother, my girlfriend, and one of my good friends from here that moved away
18:51.00Rilgonand that's it
18:51.12AzrielHow do you do that
18:51.15RilgonOh, sure, you can use it with anyone, as long as they agree as well
18:51.24DjaneRight.
18:51.27AzrielHow do you use real ID
18:51.31RilgonThe point is, everyone's all "AMG EVERYONE EVER WILL KNOW MY NAME BLIZZARD!!!!!!!!!" and it's like... "you're stupid"
18:51.39RawsDjane: I think he means that some people are likely going to go RealID crazy, then complain when some stranger they've added knows too much personal information
18:51.41Rilgon1) Either you give them your Battle.net email address or they give you theirs
18:51.46Rilgon2) Add them as a friend in-game with that email
18:51.47DjaneRaws, right.
18:51.51Rilgon3) They confirm the connection
18:51.55Malgaynelol
18:51.56Rilgon4) RealID friends are GO
18:51.56MalgayneRilgon
18:52.01DjaneSince you have to accept the contact, it's their own damn fault.
18:52.02RilgonYo
18:52.03MalgayneI never put together that you were in here
18:52.06Malgayneand you were the guy from twitter
18:52.07Rilgonsup
18:52.09RilgonAyup
18:52.12The_Spiderjust what I need, another instant message protocal
18:52.21Malgayneconnects dots
18:52.22RawsDjane: of course, and that is where the whole "People […] make me want to drink heavily" part comes in \o/
18:52.22RilgonGood thing it's entirely optional then :P
18:52.45Azrielso somone from the alliance can real id with a horde friend on same server an abuse bgs and situations now? Awesome
18:52.51Parall4xYeah, that's true, The_Spider, although I think it will be worth it when I can communicate with someone who's in-game while I'm not (I believe that's the end-goal).
18:53.04RilgonRaws, Djane: The thing is, there's only two things known about you by your RealID friends - your name, and your current game/server/character that you're on
18:53.13RilgonI used it on the PTR with my girlfriend, it's quite seamless
18:53.14RawsHow Malgayne conducts himself so eloquently all the time to screaming patrons is beyond me
18:53.22Corganhugs Malgayne
18:53.40RilgonThey literally go into your friends list like all your current friends, but instead of "XxxArthazzzz", you see "John Doe"
18:53.50Corganalso, I'm a little confused about the whole problem with RealID
18:53.52MalgayneIt takes a certain type
18:53.53CorganIt's just your name.
18:54.03Corganit's like, what are you going to do with my name
18:54.04RilgonAnd it's all like "John Doe - XxxArthazzzzzz, Dalaran, Cenarion Circle server"
18:54.05RawsIt's like you're impervious to trolls, Mal
18:54.08CorganHACK MY LIFE?!
18:54.13Corganhacks Raws' life
18:54.16RawsHow did you ever build up such defenses
18:54.18MalgayneNot impervious, I've been trolled now and then
18:54.21Rilgonhackers can turn your computer into a BOMB from THOUSANDS OF MILES AWAY
18:54.25winkCorgan: well, the social engineering and whole "real name vs. online personality" is a problem
18:54.32ArkaenMalgayne is the antitroll.
18:54.40winkmy employer knows I play wow, but maybe a future one shouldn't know it
18:54.49CorganI think about 60% of people I talk to know my real, full name
18:54.52RilgonWink: That's why you only RealID people who *gasp* already know your real name - the explicit design of the system, from Blizzard's mouth
18:55.03CorganHell, do a /whois on me
18:55.04MalgayneWhat it is is that I'm immune to people being rude to me
18:55.14winkCorgan: not sayin one has to be paranoid
18:55.25Corgan.
18:55.25winkRilgon: I've not seen it - so I can't ocmment on exactl functionaluty
18:55.26CorganRaws
18:55.30CorganI just /whois'd myself
18:55.31MalgayneBut I've been trolled by people who pretend to be ignorant or foolish
18:55.33Corganand Colloquy crashed
18:55.34Corgan:(
18:55.37winkI'm just sayin I understand if people don't like the idea
18:55.38RawsGood job
18:55.38RilgonIt's quite seamless, wink
18:55.46RilgonYou give your friend your b.net email (or they give you theirs)
18:55.47winkit works!
18:55.48RawsMal: hmm, yeah
18:55.52winkI can whois corgan
18:55.54RilgonYou add it like you do a friend on Facebook, MSN, etc.
18:55.54winkI am a pro
18:55.55MalgayneBecause my immunity to rudeness comes from being willing to believe the best in people =/
18:55.56winkat the internet
18:55.57RilgonThen they accept it
18:55.58Corganwink, I would understand the complains if it was REQUIRED
18:55.58Rilgonand voila
18:56.02Corganbut it's an OPTIONAL extra service
18:56.06RilgonAll you can see is their name and what character or game they're on
18:56.13Corganfor use with "REAL" friends
18:56.16Rilgon^^^
18:56.17winkCorgan: see above, but I can just imagine "you wont get into my guild without realID"
18:56.18Corganhence the name
18:56.21CorganRealID
18:56.25Corganthen fuck that guild.
18:56.29Rilgonwink: Any guild that does that will not get applicants
18:56.29winkI would
18:56.31RilgonNot sane ones, at least
18:56.35winkhehe
18:56.53winkI'm not against it, I'm just saying I can udnerstand people damning it
18:56.54CorganI've been waiting for something like this for like
18:56.54RilgonI've already explicitly told my guild leader that neither she nor any of her officers are getting my RealID
18:56.54Corganever
18:56.55NightkillI can't see it going that far
18:57.05RilgonAnd if she doesn't like it, she can gkick me :P
18:57.09RawsI think I have an almost infinite patience, but my twisted sense of humor about believing the best in people forces me to crack at some point
18:57.10Corganbecause it's one step further to having an out of game IM client
18:57.15NightkillI'm the all the hype about RealID isn't going to be as far bad as people thing
18:57.15winkI mean, it can't be MY concern
18:57.23winkI'm hosting guild TS on a domain with my name
18:57.34RilgonHaha, yeah
18:57.37winkanyone could find out my name
18:57.43RilgonThe whois for my blog has my name in it, I'm pretty sure
18:57.45winkbut I like to keep the retard filter
18:57.50RawsI am betrayed by my own humorous approach to cynicism
18:57.50winkaka, no whois, no name
18:57.57CorganRaws
18:57.59RawsI will never be able to serve customers
18:58.02Rawsfalls to knees
18:58.03CorganI am betrayed by your good looks
18:58.21Raws:o
18:58.36NightkillAlthough having a RealID handle would have been more "smart" imo
18:58.52DjaneRaws on his knees?
18:58.53DjaneHot.
18:59.03RawsNightkill: I like the directness of a real name
18:59.18RawsAdding a handle might've just added another layer of, here's the word again, obfuscation in terms of online identity
18:59.41RawsForcing people to use a real name really makes the purpose utterly clear
18:59.58Raws(Even though that purpose might still go over some peoples' heads)
19:00.14NightkillTrue but it is nice to have a one name to relate all of your in-game friends alts etc
19:00.32NightkillWhich makes the RealID system somewhat limited to RL friends
19:00.47Rilgon...
19:00.51RilgonThat's the /intended design goal/
19:00.52Faethe@realmstatus US Shadowmoon
19:00.52RawsYeah, if they could implement it in a lesser manner as an alt management system, that would be pretty cool
19:00.53[Wheaties]Realm status for Shadowmoon (PVP) - Status: Down
19:01.01NightkillWhich makes it useless for some
19:01.07RilgonThen don't use it
19:01.08RawsBut that might introduce too much end user confusion or complexity
19:01.20Nightkillfor me as an example I don't have really any RL friends that play
19:01.31RilgonThe only other MMO that I've used that had a similar system was Champions Online, and if anyone actually wants THAT system, they haven't the slightest shred of security consciousness
19:01.42RilgonBecause your character name was blatantly displayed as <character name>.<account name>
19:01.51RilgonIn all channels - party chat, global chat, etc.
19:01.54NightkillBut it would have been nice to use the system for ingame friends I have when I'm playing wow or SC or diablo III
19:01.55Rilgonand quite honestly, screw that
19:02.18RawsI think Blizzard just had to come up with an opinion on that which applied to the largest user base
19:02.28NightkillBut anyhow I don't really have any complaints about anything ... more less suggestions on improvments
19:02.33RilgonFair
19:02.39RawsAnd they said, "well, the majority of our players who want to keep track of friends in other games… are very close friends with those other people"
19:02.41RilgonAt least you're doing it civilly, too
19:02.55RilgonThere's people on Twitter who are all "WELL I GUESS I HAVE TO CALL BLIZZARD AND GET MY NAME CHANGED SO I CAN USE REALID"
19:02.59Corgan[09:00am] Nightkill: True but it is nice to have a one name to relate all of your in-game friends alts etc
19:02.59Corgan[09:00am] Nightkill: Which makes the RealID system somewhat limited to RL friends
19:03.00Corganahahahaha
19:03.01Corganoh god
19:03.15RilgonI sincerely hope they do, so when they get their accounts compromised, they lose access to it
19:03.16CorganThat's just
19:03.17Corganwow
19:03.20RilgonYeah, I know
19:03.41CorganThat's the whole point.
19:04.33Nightkill@Corgan ya put two of my statments out of context together so they don't seem to make sense ....
19:04.42Corgan...
19:04.43Corganwhat
19:04.44FaetheI really want Sylvana's Music Box
19:04.50FaetheThe song is pretty.
19:04.55Corgan[08:59am] Raws: (Even though that purpose might still go over some peoples' heads)
19:04.55Corgan[09:00am] Nightkill: True but it is nice to have a one name to relate all of your in-game friends alts etc
19:04.55Corgan[09:00am] Nightkill: Which makes the RealID system somewhat limited to RL friends
19:04.55Corgan[09:00am] Rilgon: ...
19:04.55Corgan[09:00am] Rilgon: That's the /intended design goal/
19:05.55RawsI think the intended design goal was simply to help connect groups of close friends
19:06.07RawsThe opinion of Blizzard on how to implement that identity is a bit different
19:06.20RilgonPrecisely, Raws
19:06.30RilgonPeople are trying to use it for basically everyone
19:06.32Rilgonwhich is the problem
19:07.05NightkillYeah I see how the intended idea would be too connect groups of close friends ... But wouldn't it have been better to connect groups of ingame friends xrealm, xgame etc
19:07.23RawsMaybe for you and your friends
19:07.34RawsBut when Blizzard designed their implementation, they were looking at the entire user base
19:07.47Rilgon^
19:07.48RawsSo that probably just means you're an outlier
19:07.57NightkillSo when Diablo III comes out (which I'll be getting for sure!!) I'll be able to keep tabs on what's going down in the wow world
19:07.59RawsNot that that's innately bad or anything
19:08.00RilgonHonestly, there's very few people in my guild that I'd want that level of connectivity with
19:08.02RawsIt's just how it works out
19:08.03RilgonBasically, one
19:08.15RilgonI do want to talk to my GF, and harass my brother, and talk to my best friend, though
19:08.19RilgonSo they get Real ID access
19:08.20Rilgonetc.
19:08.22RawsYeah, same
19:09.53NightkillJust a little question off topic I was wondering about...  Noticed wowhead was hiring...  Anyone know what the typical salary is for that type of work and if it's restricted to USA residents?
19:10.05RawsMalgayne: you upgraded to iOS 4, do you use the iFoon authenticator?
19:10.20Raws(and if you do, did you deactivate it prior to upgrading as a safeguard?)
19:11.09RawsNightkill: from the jobs page, it sounds like salary is totally negotiable based on your history
19:11.15RawsAnd that can vary a whole lot :P
19:11.30Nightkilltrue
19:12.25RilgonEvery time someone compares Real ID to Champions Online I want to stab them
19:12.28Rilgonfffffffffff
19:12.33NightkillI'm going to be taking an Internet Application Development course this fall so a job like that would be something interesting
19:12.34MalgayneRaws: Yes and no
19:12.51MalgayneBut I do have the serial number for the authenticator written down elsewhere as a backup
19:12.56RawsIf I applied, I suspect I would have to take a pay cut, but I would do that happily because I want to work with a stable team on long-term projects again
19:13.11RawsMalgayne: hmm, good call
19:13.13RawsI should do that anyway
19:13.27Ac-townI wonder if they will make a stand-alone app
19:13.36Ac-townso you can chat from out of a game
19:13.37MalgayneRaws: Also I'm not in a hardcore situation, so if I miss a weekend of WoW while I get my authenticator fixed that's not a big deal
19:13.55RawsMalgayne: yeah, me neither, so I guess I won't worry about it
19:14.00poeticdragonDomh you around?
19:14.01RawsThanks
19:14.22RawsAc-town: a lot of us in #wowhead often dream about a WoW <-> IRC bridge :(
19:14.26RawsOr used to, at least
19:15.09Ac-townhaha, me too
19:15.19BiggieSmallshttp://boards.4chan.org/b/res/242858961
19:15.30BiggieSmallsdeathwing in human form
19:15.44RawsTime to sync my iFoon for the first time in like four months
19:15.57MalgayneRaws: Most important thing is write down the serial
19:16.02MalgayneBecause if you DO have to remove it
19:16.07RawsYeah, I've done that
19:16.10MalgayneIf you have the serial it's like a five minute process
19:16.12RawsThanks for the tip
19:16.26MalgayneIf you don't you have to print out a bunch of forms and fax them
19:16.30Malgayneand it takes days and days
19:16.33Rawsheh
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19:19.27RawsOh wait, I forgot there's no update at all for first-gen phones
19:19.33Raws:( http://hey.czechmyjugs.com/get/Screen_shot_2010-06-22_at_3.17_.50_PM_.png
19:19.53poeticdragonWhy are you frowning?
19:20.06RawsI am eternally stuck at iOS 3.1.3
19:20.39MalgayneYou mean a regular iphone, not a 3G?
19:21.00Raws2G supremacy
19:21.06RawsRockin' EDGE all up ins
19:21.40RawsThe best is when you try to install iBooks http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1399/4721970772_43fd0d7909_o.jpg
19:22.09Malgaynelawl
19:22.26fewyn!status -status
19:22.28FreyjaNorth American: 0/241 \\ Europe: 263/263
19:22.34RilgonAC-town: Oh god, I'd kill for a Steam-style Battle.net chat application
19:22.43RilgonLike, I'd pay for it
19:24.21Ac-townRilgon: I'm sure if they made a API for talking with RealID someone would write a chat app
19:24.36Ac-townor clients would support it
19:25.10RilgonYeah, I don't doubt it
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19:30.43RilgonLMAO
19:30.47RilgonMalgayne, you're awesome XD
19:31.51BiggieSmallshttp://images.4chan.org/b/src/1277234581928.png
19:32.00BiggieSmallsarchaeology dino mount!
19:35.10Nightkilllol that's sweet
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19:39.06fewyn!status -status
19:39.07FreyjaNorth American: 0/241 \\ Europe: 263/263
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19:41.24Keshy-Good night
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19:42.39RawsMinamo single-handedly turned my Amazon browsing history into an embarrassing abomination the other day http://hey.czechmyjugs.com/get/Screen_shot_2010-06-22_at_3.41_.36_PM_.png
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19:44.04DjaneWhat an embaressing abomination indeed.
19:44.06DjaneIn your pants.
19:44.24BiggieSmallshttp://images.4chan.org/b/src/1277235528988.jpg
19:44.25RawsGross, not like that
19:44.28BiggieSmallstauren paladin mounts
19:44.49starspunI want a tauren paladin.
19:45.31BiggieSmallslol
19:45.52BiggieSmallsI would love to get a kind of charge or DG on pallies
19:46.02DjaneEh.
19:46.08BiggieSmallsever since doing randoms on my tank druid I love charging
19:46.09DjaneYes, our mobility is lesser than others.
19:46.15DjaneBut that's part of being a paladin.
19:46.28fewyn!status -status
19:46.30FreyjaNorth American: 0/241 \\ Europe: 263/263
19:46.30DjaneWe have the -best- aoe tanking abilities, bar none.
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19:46.42BiggieSmallswhat about death knights?
19:46.48DjaneDon't compete.
19:47.20DjaneAvengers shield is immense for picking up casters.
19:47.34ArkaenSo
19:47.35DjaneHammer is immense for small groups, combined with consecrate it's sickening.
19:47.37ArkaenI'm quitting WoW
19:47.45winksteam has a chat? o_O
19:47.51BiggieSmallsI love hammer of the righteous dps
19:48.01BiggieSmallsespecially with 2sett10
19:48.23DjaneYes.
19:48.35DjaneIt's incredible. It beats Seal of command.
19:48.40BiggieSmallsDeath Knight aoe tanking is a bit of a slow start because of the dnd, disease then spread
19:49.01DjaneDK aoe -could- potentially match a paladins, were a fight to go on for a few minutes to catch up
19:49.05Djanebut no trash lasts that long
19:49.09BiggieSmallsPallies have the sense undead glyph to also give huge amounts of dps in icc mobs
19:49.13DjaneYes.
19:49.17BiggieSmallslike 6k
19:49.37DjaneAnd the rest.
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19:49.44BiggieSmallshttp://images.4chan.org/b/src/1277235920285.jpg MONKEYS
19:49.45DjaneI pull 8k or so on marrowgar.
19:49.49Djanethat is, premarrowgar.
19:49.55BiggieSmallslol
19:50.03yutohi, does anyone know a good site where I can find someone as a RAF partner?
19:50.05DjaneThat's without SoCom.
19:50.19BiggieSmallsI don't use Seal of command
19:50.30Djanei'm prot/prot
19:50.38Djaneprot raid/prot trash and heroics.
19:50.49BiggieSmallsoh
19:51.01DjaneWith the 20% buff, i'd probably do near 10k on the pre marrowgar trash
19:51.52BiggieSmallspaladins are nice for tanking valithria H too
19:51.59BiggieSmallsI just downed it on mine
19:52.08DjaneEh, not really.
19:52.16DjaneThat's a fight our lack of mobility matters.
19:52.30DjaneWe do more damage perhaps than others, but that's nto our job, just a happy coincidence.
19:52.51DjaneWarrior tanks are sickening on that fight, followed by DK's then bears and pallys last really.
19:53.00BiggieSmallshttp://images.4chan.org/b/src/1277236028339.jpg
19:53.33BiggieSmallslooks like some old god is reviving vanilla raid bosses
19:53.58BiggieSmallsI didn't tank valihtria though
19:54.09BiggieSmallsI healed it with holy light spam
19:54.14Djaneall tanks are servicable in all fights.
19:54.21DjaneBut there's definitely preferences.
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19:55.08DjaneI'd say a paladins key fights would be LK, BQL, Putricide.
19:55.18DjaneOur worst would be saurfang and valithria, easily.
19:55.41fewynWe are continuing to work on applying the latest content patch and will be extending maintenance for all realms until 3:00PM PDT.
19:55.46Djanehot.
19:55.55BiggieSmallsI hate doing saurfang on my pally
19:55.59*** topic/#wowhead by fewyn -> Welcome to the official Wowhead channel - IRC rules/stats at http://www.wowhead.com/?irc - This is a family friendly chat. | Extended Maintance 3PM PDT
19:56.07DM7002NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
19:56.07BiggieSmallsI have low startup aggro on mark switches
19:56.14DM7002Why is maintanance so long....
19:56.14BiggieSmallsbecause I have to wait for dps to pick up mobs
19:56.19DM7002<PROTECTED>
19:56.20DjaneYes.
19:56.25DjaneWe can't use a lot of our rotation
19:56.33DM7002Djane really?
19:56.41DM7002I find Saurfang rather simple on my pally
19:56.42BiggieSmallsI usually save avenger's shield at that point
19:56.50DjaneDM7002, oh, it's doable enough.
19:56.55DjaneDon't get me wrong.
19:57.04DjaneBut there's 10-12 seconds of no consecrate every 45.
19:57.12Djane4-5 seconds of no hammer of righteous every 45.
19:57.21BiggieSmallsI can keep down consecration without pulling
19:57.21Djane4-5 seconds of no avengers shield every 45.
19:57.22DM7002Yeah although I never really found that to have an effect
19:57.32DjaneBiggieSmalls, what.
19:57.44DjaneYou do a lot less threat than I do, then.
19:57.50WardGreece need to score fast
19:57.54BiggieSmallsyeah
19:57.56DM7002either that or everyone else pulls more threat
19:57.58Wardor Nigeria works for me too
19:58.06BiggieSmallsI compete with a DK tank who spams icy touch
19:58.10BiggieSmallsun killing machine procs
19:58.12BiggieSmallson
19:58.17BiggieSmallsand he beats me in aggro tenfold
19:58.24DjaneDM7002, i have a warlock pushing 11k dps on that fight with no threat reduction, and consecrate will still pull initial threat due to the tick nature of it.
19:58.35DM7002That's true I suppose.
19:58.38DjaneSimple fact is that consecrate ticks before any spells can be cast
19:58.46DM7002I usually hammer one of the beasts for that reason
19:58.53DjaneYes, hammer of justice, of course.
19:58.57yutoDoes anyone know a forum with RAF threads/requests ???
19:59.05DM7002MMO?
19:59.06winkI shockwave one
19:59.07Djanebut you should never pull a beast, as a tank.
19:59.14DM7002yeah
19:59.29Djaneon normal mode you could ignore that, sure.
19:59.32DjaneThey die too fast.
19:59.36DM7002I had a tank in a pug actually kite a beast...
19:59.40DjaneON heroic, if a beast hits you, it's probably a wipe.
19:59.46Wardwhy would anyone want to be RAF'd
19:59.53DM7002the characters
20:00.03Wardall the advantages go to the former player
20:00.08DM7002I'm RAFing my friend once he gets back from spain
20:00.09Wardthe new player gets screwed
20:00.14winkWard: new server, a quick 60
20:00.17winkworth 5 bucks
20:00.18Wardmeh
20:00.33DM7002Pretty true
20:00.47DjaneWard, advantages?
20:00.52DjaneYou mean the vanity mount.
20:00.53DM7002free levesl
20:00.54Warddid US get patch today?
20:00.55DM7002mount
20:00.58DM7002free month
20:00.59DM7002yes Ward
20:01.00fewynyes Ward
20:01.04Djaneand 30 lolvels.
20:01.12DM700230 levels per character
20:01.16WardDM7002, that's just for the people who give the RAF
20:01.22Wardthe RAF receivers get nothing
20:01.24DjaneNo.
20:01.28Djanethey get 300% xp to 60
20:01.28wink"the giver" "the receiver"
20:01.32Djanewhich is pretty significant.
20:01.35winkwhy do I have dirty thoughts now? :(
20:01.39DM7002I did too wink
20:01.42DM7002I did too....
20:01.51winkthe internets tainted me
20:01.52Wardthe RAFer and the RAFee
20:02.01winkoff to KFC I go and have an icecream
20:02.12DjaneWard, a)what a selfish look at it
20:02.18WardI had a strawberry shake from mcdonalds today
20:02.23DM7002oh and Ward i know those are just for the new people
20:02.26Wardmy little nephew wanted a burger from there
20:02.32DM7002errr
20:02.34DM7002RAFer
20:02.36Djaneb)60 levels under RAF takes about 8 hours.
20:02.39DM7002I was just telling DJane
20:02.40WardDM7002, those are just for the old people
20:02.40BiggieSmallsI love KFC double downs
20:02.44Wardthe new people get nothing
20:02.52Djanethey get 300% xp to 60.
20:02.52BiggieSmallsI get one like every week
20:02.53DM7002Except 300% experience on everything
20:02.54DjaneAre you dense?
20:02.54Wardother than the bonus xp when leveling together
20:02.55winkBiggieSmalls: wth is that?
20:03.02DjaneWard, which is worth quite a lot.
20:03.04wink<- Europe, I'm lucky we even HAVE a kfc
20:03.08DjaneYes the other person gets -more-.
20:03.09winkno fancy stuff
20:03.10DM7002for 5 bucks thats significant Ward
20:03.10BiggieSmallschicken breast sandwhiches
20:03.16DjaneBut that doesn't really matter.
20:03.20winknot in stock, afaik
20:03.22winkanyway, laters
20:03.26winkthere's miles to run
20:03.32Djaneit's a meaningless vanity mount and 30 free levels, which on someone already established, aren't that useful.
20:03.33BiggieSmalls2 breasts 2 pieces of whatever cheese 2 strips of bacon 2 kinds of another cheese
20:03.46BiggieSmallswhat
20:03.48WardDouble Coronary Downs
20:03.53BiggieSmallsI would love the vanity mount
20:04.02BiggieSmallstwo people one mount, easy for summoning
20:04.02WardI have the dumb zevhra
20:04.04BiggieSmallsthe rider can afk
20:04.11WardI did raf like a week before they announced the rocket
20:04.14DM7002I have the stupid zebra too
20:04.16DM7002Im pissed
20:04.18DM7002I wanted the damn rocket
20:04.22Wardme too
20:04.24BiggieSmallscan'[t you switch?
20:04.26Wardcba doing another raf
20:04.28Wardnope
20:04.33DM7002Nope
20:04.35Wardonly new RAFers get it
20:04.38DM7002It's lame sauce
20:04.39BiggieSmallsI remember seeing something about a switch
20:04.47BiggieSmallsglad about myself not doing raf though
20:04.59Wardand blizz says " your zevhra is exclusive now, cause people can't get it anymore'
20:05.05BiggieSmallsLOL
20:05.09Wardit's a bloody horse with a horn
20:05.20DM7002http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=24401906849&sid=1
20:05.24DM7002Cant trade back
20:05.56BiggieSmallshttp://images.4chan.org/b/src/1277236998755.jpg
20:06.02BiggieSmallsno more lame skill pane
20:06.20DM7002fancy looking
20:06.59BiggieSmallsit's a bit infected with web2.0
20:07.01Wardomg dude
20:07.08Wardit looks like the LOTRO skills pane
20:07.14Wardlike exactly
20:07.32DM7002Yeah I kinda agree.
20:07.35DM7002But I still like it.
20:07.38Wardyeah
20:07.42BiggieSmallsgetting the spoilers from http://boards.4chan.org/b/res/242858961 fyi
20:07.44Wardlotro interface isn't bad either
20:07.54BiggieSmallshaha
20:07.59BiggieSmallsthey debunked rankwatch
20:08.00fewynthere Corgan now it's not broken http://anime.fewyn.net/
20:09.08DM7000I feel like they look super low rez BiggieSmalls
20:09.51WardI need to update my bluray database
20:10.00Wardbought a ton of movies the last 2 months
20:10.02Wardhttp://ward.webruimtehosting.nl/movies/
20:10.05BiggieSmallsI can't tell
20:10.19BiggieSmallsI usually have my client on low resolution because I use a laptop
20:12.30DM7000The spell book interface looks nice
20:15.44Wardso from what I can tell from the released info lately
20:15.53Wardall the stuff to make the game more casual is staying
20:16.04DM7000Indeed
20:16.06DM7000Which works for me
20:16.07DM7000I are casual
20:16.09Wardbut they're removing anything they had planned that was slightly complex
20:16.13Wardlike path of the titans
20:16.17Wardor guild talents
20:16.34Wardor totally revamped talents for classes that focus more on utility
20:16.39Wardto get rid of cookie cutter builds
20:17.09Wardcomplexity in a game is not a vice in my opinion
20:17.28Wardthe game was at it's most complex during late vanilla and early TBC, and I quite enjoyed that
20:17.36DjaneI love how elitist you are.
20:17.42DjaneYet your mage is horrifically non minmaxed.
20:17.49DjaneThat is all.
20:17.52Wardremember that massive flowchart for TBC achievement that was floating around when MH just came out
20:17.55DM7000xD
20:17.58Wardattunement
20:19.01DM7000Bah
20:19.05DM7000Wtf hunters get a pet a level 1 one?
20:19.07DM7000wow
20:19.10DM7000I mean now not onme
20:19.13DM7000FUUUUU
20:19.41Ward...
20:19.51Wardwhat
20:20.07Dj|foodHunters get a pet at level one.
20:20.11Dj|foodWhich seems pretty reasonable.
20:20.21DM7000I liked having to do that quest.
20:20.23DM7000It was fun
20:20.37Dj|foodSure, but it doesn't really fit what hunters are.
20:21.04Dj|foodthe hunter/pet link is very very strong. It can only strengthen the identity of the class by letting them have it earlier.
20:22.46DM7000Eh but I felt like those first ten levels were training you and gettined attuned with nature
20:22.53DM7000to the point where you could tame on of it's creatures
20:22.58Wardif you get heirlooms
20:23.09Wardyou don't need a pet until level 15
20:23.16Wardshit dies before your pet gets there
20:23.54Dj|foodyou don't -ever- need a pet.
20:24.10Dj|foodYou can pull 15k dps without one.
20:24.22Dj|foodWhat you need and what is part of the class however, is very different.
20:24.34Dj|foodMages don't need blink but it's part of what seperates fthem from other casters.
20:24.38NoxyThats why you get the prettiest one.
20:24.43NoxyOr the most annoying.
20:24.54Dj|foodGO GO WASP WASP WASP
20:24.55NoxyLike a dinosaur that goes STOMP STOMP STOMP STOMP
20:25.06Dj|foodWasps are -way- more annoying than the dino's.
20:25.09NoxyOnes that make lots of noise.
20:25.10Wardor a corehound
20:25.16Wardthat stomps while blocking your view
20:25.26Dj|foodThe proper way is to raid as Bm
20:25.34Dj|foodand pop bestial wrath when an add needs to be picked up.
20:25.42Dj|foodThat way the tank can only see BIG RED PET.
20:25.43NoxyTotally.
20:25.44Dj|foodInstead of the add.
20:25.47Wardlol
20:25.51NoxyWhat we need
20:25.51Wardnameplates
20:25.52NoxyIs
20:25.56NoxyA hybrid.
20:26.03WardI have nameplates on for that
20:26.06NoxyOf a Corehound, Dino and Wasp.
20:26.21Dj|foodDinocorewaspasaur
20:26.22WardFidosaurus Buzz
20:27.01DM7000BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
20:27.04NoxyTwo headed fat glowy T-Red that dribbles, and flys, with BIG STUPID BRIGHTLY COLOURED WINGS
20:27.08DM7000There needs to be a Vuvuzuela pet
20:27.13Wardlol
20:27.18NoxyWith vuvuzelas sticking out of every orafice
20:27.22DM7000Yes!
20:27.40Dj|foodhttp://www.wowbash.com/image-14283.html
20:27.41Wardmy hunter has a boring pet
20:27.42DM7000Someone needs to draw this
20:27.44Warda Bear
20:27.46Wardbrown bear
20:27.51Wardcalled Chewie
20:27.57Wardthe hunter is called Bowcaster
20:28.59DM7000xD
20:29.22Wardhis rank is Han Solo
20:29.25Wardin the guild
20:29.29Raws:-|
20:29.35Wardall our ranknames are star wars chars
20:29.40BiggieSmallslol
20:29.49BiggieSmallshuntards in cataclysm will stat with pets
20:29.50WardHan Solo are alts
20:29.51BiggieSmallsstart
20:29.59Noxy... All my ranknames are types of prostitutes,
20:30.00Wardwelcome to 20 minutes ago
20:30.34Wardin my bankguild I use coorporate titles
20:30.38WardCEO
20:30.38WardCFO
20:30.39WardCIO
20:30.43WardManager
20:30.55WardDrone
20:31.08Ac-town!status -status
20:31.13FreyjaNorth American: 0/241 \\ Europe: 263/263
20:31.49fewynwe still have an hour and a half
20:31.53fewynuntil they extend it some more
20:31.58Wardlol
20:32.04Wardpoor americans
20:32.11Wardyou get a day of downtime
20:32.17DM7000RAWR
20:32.20Wardand we are back up by noon
20:32.21rcfreak0|this sucks, no WoW for the day
20:32.22DM7000I cant do my dailies tonight
20:32.24DM7000grrrr
20:32.36DM7000I have to leave in half hour, and no dailies :'(
20:32.39Wardpatchday I just sleep in
20:32.39Wardtil 11 ish
20:32.40DM7000WHY GOD WHY?!?!?!?
20:32.40Wardbreakfast
20:32.45Wardand bam, it's back up
20:33.06Ac-townfewyn: I figured, but I wanted to check :)
20:33.48WardSouth Korea made it!
20:34.04DM7000Aye
20:34.06DM7000they tied to Nigeria
20:34.18WardI had Argentina and Greece in the pool at work
20:34.28DM7000I want Chile to win
20:34.29Warddamn south koreans cost me 100 points
20:34.41DM7000is from Chile
20:34.57WardI have England and the USA tomorrow
20:35.23Wardand Germany and Ghana in the other group
20:40.03DM7000I miss Zul'Aman
20:40.16Wardmeh
20:40.24WardZul'Aman was like an after dinner mint
20:40.29WardTBC had some epic raids
20:40.36Wardbut imo Sunwell was too much
20:40.48Wardand then they ploinked on ZA as filler
20:43.16DM7000Yeah
20:43.22DM7000but I loved the look fo the gera
20:43.24DM70008gear
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20:45.07DM7000Ah this brings me back to when Pally Tanks used caster weapons
20:46.36rosemountnight folks
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20:46.47DM7000Nighty night
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20:54.52RazernokHey
20:55.39Dj|foodhttp://wondermark.com/601
20:56.22fewynfuck
20:56.26fewyni spilt my drink on my desk
20:57.33ari5avfail :(
21:00.59Razernokanyone know how I can move things like default frames for example the thing in the top middle which shows zone things like pvp items captured in hellfire
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21:02.30robokittykinda nizzle this
21:02.39robokitty11 pm and there's still light on the horizon
21:03.26BiggieSmallsstupid maintenance
21:03.35BiggieSmallsI just find out Lord Ahune drops frost
21:03.53BiggieSmallsfound*
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21:04.42starspunI hate Aion and their stupid OP rangers
21:06.16*** join/#wowhead OscarDivine (~FrankieWo@12.135.53.9)
21:06.36Razernok<---love rangers
21:06.47RazernokI play a Ranger
21:07.04starspunThen your opinion is invalid.
21:07.36RazernokI'm sorry that you just suck
21:08.20starspunIt's nothing to do with sucking.
21:08.40robokittyI kinda lol'd
21:09.17robokittyI'm pretty sure Aion is the first game I've ever preordered, played through the beta and quit playing before it hit retail
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21:10.10OscarDivine@ realmstatus US alexstrasza
21:10.15Wardlol robokitty
21:10.21OscarDivinewhere's my boy Wheaties!!!
21:10.25Wardmy entire guild quit WoW for Aion
21:10.32Wardand then came scampering back a month later
21:10.51Wardmeanwhile I got myself into a better guild to kill LK :p
21:10.53robokitty:P
21:11.27robokittyI had some hope for it, but it just turned out to be so clunky and slow, I ended up quitting it
21:11.45Ac-townit looked nice
21:11.50Ac-townfrom the screenshots
21:11.50WardI liked the graphics
21:11.54Wardbut that gets old
21:11.54robokittyand it didn't help being told that past level 40'ish, there were pretty much no quests left so it was grind-grind-grind
21:11.58Wardthe gameplay was weaksauce
21:12.03Wardcontrols felt all wrong
21:12.23WardAion is by far the prettiest MMO I've played
21:12.24*** join/#wowhead Azriel (Azriel@174-126-67-77.cpe.cableone.net)
21:12.30Warduntil APB
21:12.35WardAPB is hot
21:12.37AzrielAPB sucks
21:13.22AzrielI cant run it :(
21:13.22Wardlol
21:13.22Wardyou suck
21:13.22WardI played the beta then preordered
21:13.22starspunAPB isn't pretty. It looks nice but it's not "pretty" :p
21:13.22Wardso I can play monday!
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21:13.22Azrielmy comp wont run it i get like 5 fps
21:13.22RazernokAPB???
21:13.23Razernokwtf is APB?
21:13.23starspunAll Points Bulletin
21:13.23starspunl2google
21:13.23DFire870I think I've died and gone to heaven
21:13.27Wardstarspun, there's nothing prettier than hanging out of a policecar with your mac 10 shooting down other players
21:13.32Wardwhile your mate is driving
21:13.43starspunOh ew, you're an Enforcer.
21:13.51WardI did enforcer in beta
21:14.01Wardso I can do criminal when it goes live without having seen much content
21:14.38Wardyou know in the beta, I thought all the missions were far harder for enforcers
21:14.44Razernokfailed, site tells you nothing about the game
21:14.48Wardthe criminals basically just had to evade getting killed
21:14.58WardRazernok, you know GTA?
21:14.59starspunStop sucking :))
21:15.04RazernokGTA?
21:15.07Wardyes
21:15.10starspunLol fail
21:15.11Wardor crackdown
21:15.20starspunGrand Theft Auto.
21:15.29starspunAPB is like a GTA MMO
21:15.30RazernokI hate that game
21:15.31WardRazernok, did you just wake up from your millenial hibernation?
21:15.46Wardyou hate GTA?
21:15.47RazernokI don't play console
21:15.48Wardlike all of em?
21:15.59starspunGTA is on PC these days you know.
21:16.02WardGTA is a god damn PC game you
21:16.03Wardyou
21:16.11starspuntroglodyte.
21:16.13WardI have nothing bad enough to call you
21:16.15Razernokits console
21:16.16Wardthat works
21:16.24WardGTA was born on the PC
21:16.29Wardand GTA is still strong on the PC
21:17.06Dj|foodWard, stop being a troll.
21:17.07WardGTA didn't go consolegay until San Andreas
21:17.12RazernokI'd rather not play a gay ass game where you rape women and kill cops
21:17.20Wardyou can play a cop
21:17.22Razernoki can find a better game
21:17.24Wardand stop all that
21:17.39RazernokI've played better games
21:17.40starspunDude how can it be a "gay ass" game
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21:17.43starspunif you rape women
21:17.45starspunas a male character
21:17.49MorrilRaws: This calls
21:17.51Morrilfor shots!
21:18.09Morrilmy future has been fucked.
21:18.11Razernokits wrong to rape women
21:18.16starspunIt's a game.
21:18.21Razernokso
21:18.22MorrilI shall not be able to get my red seal or my BA
21:18.22Ac-town^
21:18.24Morrilso DRINKS
21:18.37Ac-townits also wrong to kill humans
21:18.40Ac-townbut I do it in wow
21:18.46Ac-towndown with the humans
21:18.51Dj|foodGuys.
21:18.55Dj|foodDo not feed the trolls.
21:19.22Ward5 more days
21:19.24Wardtil APB
21:19.27starspunFeed me Dj|food.
21:19.37Razernokfuck that game
21:19.41Dj|foodnukes stars and gives to starspun.
21:19.45starspun<3
21:20.14DFire870woohee
21:20.22DFire870I'm getting an iPhone :D
21:20.43Wardwhy
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21:21.03BiggieSmallsit'll be less cool as soon as the next one comes out next month
21:21.05BiggieSmallslol
21:21.11DFire870this month
21:21.14DFire870thursday actually
21:21.30DFire870and I am getting the new one, but won't get it until next week sometime
21:21.30OscarDivineis anybody else having really big troubles downloading this patch?
21:21.35OscarDivineI get to like 18-20% then it just cuts off
21:21.40OscarDivinethe tracker gets lost or some crap.
21:21.52DFire870anyways, my dad said he was getting all of us new phones, and decided on iPhones
21:22.04BiggieSmallsI'm not getting the patch download, oscar
21:22.09WardI don't like apple's policy on stuff like development
21:22.18Wardit's why I got a Nexus One
21:22.55Ac-town+1 android
21:23.08Ac-townand shame on you DFire870
21:23.13DFire870meh
21:23.37OscarDivineBiggie are you opening up your Launcher instead of going straight into wow?
21:23.38DFire870I would get an Android, but we're with AT&T and we get a discount through them
21:23.39OscarDivinetry that then you might get the patch
21:23.46DFire870and the only android phone for AT&T sucks
21:24.01Ac-townDFire870: so then wait for a new phone?
21:24.04Ac-townI'd do that
21:24.19DFire870I don't want to wait too long
21:24.26DFire870and I'm not paying for it, so I'm not complaining
21:24.29Ac-townright
21:24.34Ac-townbut if you can wait a few months
21:24.42Ac-townand geta phone that is 100 times better
21:24.47DFire870seriously, the number of times he offers something like this is like... once a decade
21:24.54DFire870I like the iPhone actually
21:25.01Ac-townright, so ask if you can get an iou
21:25.13Ac-townthe are as good as money
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21:25.21DFire870lol
21:25.27DFire870he doesn't do IOU's
21:25.48Wardget the iphone
21:25.52Warddon't open the box
21:25.55Wardsell it on ebay
21:26.02DFire870lol
21:26.03Wardthen buy your own android phone in a few months
21:26.14DFire870you can't change my mind, I really want the iPhone
21:26.39Wardbtw
21:26.42WardI love me new netbook
21:26.55Ac-townscared him off
21:26.58Wardbeen working for 5 hours and the battery is still at 60%
21:27.02Ac-towngood thing
21:27.09Gunrun`price per MB to pull data from hubble - £9
21:27.12Wardhe was faltering
21:27.14Wardso he left :p
21:27.17Gunrun`price per MB to send texts - £750
21:27.23Gunrun`fuck telecoms
21:27.27Wardlol
21:27.32Wardtexting is free with my plan
21:27.41Gunrunno its not
21:27.41Ac-towngetting fucked in the ass - priceless
21:27.44Gunrunits included with the plan
21:27.45WardI got 300 minutes and unlimited texts and internets
21:28.07Wardfor 14,95 a month
21:28.12Ac-townnice
21:28.25Parall4xHmm, having fun trying to get around the limit on HTTP transactions with www.wowarmory.com.
21:28.38Ac-town!status -status
21:28.48FreyjaNorth American: ?/? \\ Europe: 263/263
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21:29.21Parall4xAnyone have experience with parsing through guild member information on WoWArmory?
21:30.17Gunrunamericas still down?
21:30.32Wardyes
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21:33.36Wardlogging off
21:33.40Wardgoodnight
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21:37.42*** topic/#wowhead by fewyn -> Welcome to the official Wowhead channel - IRC rules/stats at http://www.wowhead.com/?irc - This is a family friendly chat. | Extended Maintance 4PM PDT
21:38.53*** part/#wowhead krookeye (~quassel@pool-173-65-244-32.tampfl.fios.verizon.net)
21:42.09*** join/#wowhead MasterOfDisguise (~chatzilla@76-255-136-210.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net)
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21:42.58OscarDivineanybody having problems with the patch?  Yes I know you are Biggie
21:43.41Ac-townOscarDivine: define problems
21:43.49FaetheThey've extended maintenance until 4 PST
21:43.50DomhBlizzard is apparently aware of issues.  Look for an update around 4 PDT
21:43.52OscarDivineit stops downloading after 17%
21:44.01FaethePDT*
21:44.01Dj|foodI love being EU.
21:44.20OscarDivineyeah but I don't see how that would affect patch downloading?  Isn't that with their incorporating the patch on their own servers?
21:44.28MasterOfDisguiseOh FML
21:44.30OscarDivinethe patch should be download-able in the P2P Network
21:44.31Ac-townOscarDivine: unless the tracker is down or the http server is, it should work
21:44.33MasterOfDisguiseSo much for playing WoW tonight
21:44.35MasterOfDisguiseQQ
21:44.46Ac-towns/or/and/
21:44.47DomhYeah, your issues sounds like a firewall issue OscarDivine
21:44.56OscarDivineThe tracker has stopped responding is the message.  So...  frick
21:45.02DomhIt goes so far up the percentage scale just making sure things are kosher before it downloads
21:45.19DomhWait, I'm thinking of the installer.  Nm
21:45.23OscarDivinenope two different connections yield the same problem
21:45.58DomhAny luck when you disable the P2P part?
21:46.14Ac-townDomh: the http seeders might be overloaded
21:46.27DomhHence why I suggest turning off the p2p part
21:46.33OscarDivinelemme try that part
21:46.35Ac-townwhy?
21:46.35MasterOfDisguiseOh my god, I'm not going anywhere near the forums.
21:46.39MasterOfDisguise>.<
21:46.43MasterOfDisguiseI love hellholes!
21:46.44Ac-townturned it off makes it use the http seeds
21:46.45DomhThere's a direct download option that's slower, and kicks in when you disable p3p
21:46.46Domhp2p
21:46.51Ac-townright
21:46.54MasterOfDisguiseSpeaking of hellholes, hi blademeld. :P
21:46.56Ac-townthats active all the time
21:47.00Gnarfoznot necessarily slower, tbh
21:47.08DomhYeah, but at the lowest priority
21:47.23OscarDivineblademeld: you gonna let them talk about your hole like that?
21:47.49DomhIs it up on the patch mirrors yet?  Might be able to skip this altogether
21:47.59OscarDivineyeah considered that
21:48.02MasterOfDisguiseOscarDivine: I think you just called him a woman.
21:48.15OscarDivineI don't see how MasterOfDisguise
21:48.27MasterOfDisguiseHis hole
21:48.40OscarDivinedudes have a hole down there too.  it's just for pooping
21:48.50OscarDivinewell....  for some dudes
21:49.43OscarDivineso ANYWAY...
21:49.46MasterOfDisguiseAnd here I was, just about to eat my lunch.
21:49.49OscarDivinethe patch still isn't downloading even with p2p disabled
21:50.05OscarDivineyeah MasterOfDisguise  way to make me talk about blademeld 's bung hole
21:50.14Ac-townOscarDivine: like i said, the http server might be overloaded
21:50.21MasterOfDisguiseEnough with the buttholes!
21:50.29OscarDivineyeah I figure it probably is
21:50.56MasterOfDisguiseThe discussion of butts themselves, on the other hand...
21:51.14OscarDivinenothing quite like a nice round
21:51.21OscarDivineHam
21:55.31`vipjesus did they extend it again?
21:55.50BiggieSmallswhat
21:55.52BiggieSmallswhat
21:55.56BiggieSmallsthey did?
21:56.01`vipso now it's till 7PM EDT right ?
21:57.10BiggieSmallsI'm not getting that
21:57.15BiggieSmallserr
21:57.22BiggieSmallsit should be 6pm EDT
21:57.25fewynyes `vip
21:57.30BiggieSmallsoh
21:57.33fewynno they extended it again BiggieSmalls
21:57.35BiggieSmalls..
21:57.47BiggieSmallslol
21:57.59BiggieSmallsI'm not going to raid on tuesdays anymore
21:57.59blademeldhello OscarDivine and MasterOfDisguise
21:58.09fewynyou never should raid on patch days
21:58.12RawsThere
21:58.15`viphey fewyn what client do you use to connect to your znc?
21:58.16OscarDivinelol @ blademeld
21:58.16OscarDivinewe were discussing your bung hole.
21:58.17fewynit's like the worst idea ever
21:58.18RawsI planted a cedar tree and did some other yard work
21:58.20MasterOfDisguiseIf only I had an Oscar Miyari weiner.
21:58.22fewynmirc `vip
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21:58.26MasterOfDisguiseThen I could slap fewyn with it.
21:58.27`vipcan i pm you ?
21:58.39MasterOfDisguiseTHAT'S RIGHT
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21:58.44MasterOfDisguiseSoB
21:58.48MasterOfDisguise:P
21:58.56fewynmaybe `vip can you?
21:59.25blademeldOscarDivine: I saw
21:59.37blademeldOscarDivine: MasterOfDisguise is just jealous that he doesn't have one
21:59.46OscarDivineit was really MasterOfDisguise that was interested.  I was just explaining
21:59.49Rawsfewyn: maybe update the topic to reflect the new extended maint
21:59.55fewyni did
21:59.58`vipit is
21:59.59`viplol
22:00.00Rawsoh, PDT
22:00.01MasterOfDisguiseTopic for #wowhead  is “Welcome to the official Wowhead channel - IRC rules/stats at http://www.wowhead.com/?irc  - This is a family friendly chat. | Extended Maintance 4PM PDT”
22:00.13OscarDivineblademeld:  everyone has a little asshole in us.  (lol)
22:00.39blademeldOscarDivine: MasterOfDisguise has an artificial one
22:00.42`vipOk, just to make sure I am not mislead, we will NOT be able to access RS tonight, correct?
22:00.52Dj|foodCorrect.
22:01.04`vipok I thought so, someone on vent is trying to tell me otherwise
22:01.12OscarDivinethat's interesting.  I bet that means that he can't get constipated
22:01.37Molfsontan@status US Thrall
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22:01.56BiggieSmallswe won't get rs yet
22:02.05DomhThe login servers are down still, too
22:02.07BiggieSmallsevery region has to have the patch first
22:02.28MasterOfDisguiseWhat about China? :P
22:02.40BiggieSmallsyou mean korea?
22:02.43ari5avhttp://fukung.net/v/22370/8a289aa0c64f7b3d892b9b6f3c47f6a5.jpg
22:03.04MasterOfDisguiseNo
22:03.11MasterOfDisguiseI heard that China doesn't have WoTLK
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22:03.22fewynchinese servers still only run tbc
22:03.36ari5avare they china or taiwan?
22:03.40fewyna lot of chinese players play NA realms
22:03.45fewynchina is it's own region
22:03.56fewynwe have EU NA KR and CH
22:04.00fewyni think that's all of them
22:04.01ari5avright, but I thought there's a ZH and a TW?
22:04.09MasterOfDisguiseZH?
22:04.11fewynmaybe
22:04.14fewyni can't remember
22:04.32ari5avthere's EU NA AU KR TW ZH to my knowledge
22:04.51MasterOfDisguiseWhat's ZH?
22:04.59fewynAU doesn't have it's own realms
22:05.07MasterOfDisguiseYeah, it's part of NA
22:05.07fewynthey play on oceanic servers in the NA group
22:05.24ari5avZH is china
22:05.36ari5avah
22:06.12ari5avI know I'm in the NA group definitely, and there's three groups of servers we can choose from - north america, latin america, and oceania
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22:10.09Wardjust had a mega 80s flashback I had to share
22:10.09Wardhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLVe1NkQA78
22:10.16WardI used to love this show
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22:14.32RawsDang :O http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/06/iconcompare.jpg
22:17.12Wardwhat's that comparing?
22:17.21Malgayneold iphone screen with new one
22:17.22Wardiphones?
22:17.24Wardah
22:17.58Wardcan you load google maps or install google earth on the new iphone?
22:18.03Wardor just their own maps app?
22:18.14MalgayneTheir own maps app IS google maps
22:18.56MalgayneYou can still use it passably as a web app but not much reason to
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22:19.04FaetheWow I just watched the encounter in Ruby Sanctum
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22:19.23OscarDivine!status
22:19.24FreyjaSyntax: !wow [-na|-eu] <realm> or -status.  Searching North American realms by default.
22:19.34Dj|food!status -status
22:19.37OscarDivine! status realm
22:19.43Dj|food!status-status
22:19.43FreyjaNorth American: ?/? \\ Europe: 263/263
22:19.47OscarDivine!status realm
22:19.50Faethe@realmstatus US Shadowmoon
22:19.52fewynit took awhile to load
22:19.57FreyjaUnable to connect to the server status page.  Visit http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/realmstatus/status.xml for more information.
22:19.59fewynbecause the site is probably hammered
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22:20.04Dj|foodYeah
22:20.05Dj|foodnot surprising
22:20.10AndChat|Ugh
22:20.15AndChat|What
22:20.16Parall4xI wonder if that is what was slowing down my HTTP requests to WoWArmory earlier.
22:20.24fewynprobably
22:20.30Parall4xcrosses fingers.
22:20.34BiggieSmallsruby sanctum doesn't look very hard
22:20.48Parall4xOtherwise, my guild parses are going to have to sleep between requests when this is finished. /ob
22:20.50Parall4x*sob
22:20.54fewynit's not supposed to be BiggieSmalls
22:21.02BiggieSmallsI know
22:21.06fewynLich King is supposed to still be the hardest encounter
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22:21.20Ac-townand it is
22:21.34Gary|G1Hardly
22:21.41Ac-town25H it is
22:22.35Gary|G1Ok right on live realms ^_^
22:22.44Parall4xlol
22:23.00Dj|foodHeroic LK is the hardest encounter.
22:23.15Dj|foodAfter that you're looking at sunwell and algalon
22:24.10Dj|foodsunwell simply because no wrath raid can't be brute forced in ICC gear, but sunwell(felmyst) just can't.
22:24.28Parall4xThe Armory is normally offline during maintenance anyways, so I guess I'm lucky to even get responses at this point.
22:25.05Dj|foodIn terms of the hardest encounters.
22:25.26RessoluteJesus, US servers still down?
22:25.26Dj|foodI'd place heroic lk first, followed by a herald of the titans algalon, followed by dedicated insanity/anub 25heroic.
22:26.15AltimeterNot supposed to be up by 4 PST.  Just supposed to give us more information at 4 PST.
22:26.37RessoluteDamn
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22:28.51BiggieSmallsis algalon 10man really hard?
22:29.01BiggieSmallson paper it doesn't sound hard
22:29.13Dj|foodBiggieSmalls, algalon 10man? no
22:29.20Dj|foodAlgalon herald of the titans? GOD yes.
22:29.21BiggieSmallsin current gear levels
22:29.24Wardthis dude rocks
22:29.25Wardhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86AJje3ElDc
22:29.28BiggieSmallsit's probably not that bad
22:29.31BiggieSmallsswitch stacks
22:29.40BiggieSmallsclick portals
22:29.49Parall4xomg Ward
22:30.09BiggieSmallswhat's herald of the titans?
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22:30.14Parall4xYou wouldn't even be able to watch the game; you'd just be looking for what the ref would do next.
22:30.32Dj|foodBiggieSmalls, algalon in appropriate gear.
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22:31.19BiggieSmallsoh well of course
22:31.28BiggieSmallsthe tanks could easily get one shotted
22:32.24BiggieSmallswow is being stupid for me
22:32.30BiggieSmallswon't download the patch
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22:32.43Parall4xUse WoWHead's mirror.
22:32.45Dj|foodBiggieSmalls, yes. Algalon -really- -really- hurts in appropriate gears.
22:33.06Parall4xOr was that not WoWHead...?
22:33.09Parall4xToo many RSS feeds.
22:33.51Parall4xsighs.
22:33.55AzrielHow is everyone doing?
22:33.58AzrielYou all bored?
22:34.06Parall4xIt was WoW.com that arranged for their own mirror, BiggieSmalls.
22:34.12BiggieSmallsthanks
22:34.23AzrielWell I found something you will all enjoy, best video for machinima for wow I have ever seen
22:34.25Azrielhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJ99Lb8w9-4
22:34.31Azrielgo enjoy
22:34.46Parall4xAh yes, the sequel of which we're all waiting for but will never see.
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22:37.17Wardseen it 20 times now
22:37.19CuddleBot[b]I don't know who it is.
22:37.20Wardbut never in 720p
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22:40.13imezhi
22:40.20Pistaciohiya
22:40.32RawsWard: http://ross.fappett.com/misc/20100622_maps_2.jpg http://ross.fappett.com/misc/20100622_maps_1.jpg
22:40.34imezis all servers down still??
22:40.41Pistacioyup
22:40.43RawsRegarding your earlier question
22:40.54RawsStandard Google Maps fare
22:41.06Pistaciowish they would test the patches more before bring them online :\
22:41.16RawsAlthough I suspect fruit plans to replace Google Maps with something else at some point in the future
22:41.23RawsThey bought up a mapping company last year
22:41.23imezwish they could spell also haha
22:41.31fewynPistacio: it's kinda hard to predict problems with a rollout this big
22:41.34WardAzriel
22:41.35Wardhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWgW3ogaV84&feature=channel_page
22:41.37Wardbetter quality
22:41.40fewynhow many realms do we have in NA?
22:41.42fewyna lot iirc
22:41.42Wardthis one doesn't blur at 720
22:41.53SakimooI understand that Blizz has a lot of servers to keep up with, but you would think after 5 years they would have major patches down to a science.
22:41.56fewynthat's a lot of servers to upgrade software on
22:42.01Pistaciothere are ways to test, this does seem so standard now
22:42.02Parall4xIt would be easier if they were a bit more descriptive about the problems that are causing the downtime.
22:42.15Sakimooagreed
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22:42.34fewynyea that would be nice but i doubt it'll ever be understandable by people like us that have no idea how the servers are setup
22:42.38fewynand such
22:42.49BiggieSmallshttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25552425015&sid=1&pageNo=57
22:42.57BiggieSmallsthe posts are so fast
22:42.58BiggieSmallsLOL
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22:43.13Parall4xI used to tolerate the secrecy because most other MMOs did similarly, but now that games like EVE Online are opening up the makeup of their infrastructure to players, I expect similar from Blizzard, perhaps justly.
22:43.28fewynwell eve is a completely different kind of game
22:43.32Pistaciotrue fewyn, but they are offering us a service, as a customer I can complain a bit :) lol
22:43.33Parall4x...
22:43.37Ac-townand they have long downtimes
22:43.45fewyneve has always been like that really
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22:44.01Parall4xEVE Online and WoW face very similar challenges and needs in terms of infrastructure.
22:44.24fewynone has several hundred thousand people playing it while wow has 12 MILLION
22:44.31Parall4xThat's called scale, not nature.
22:44.31Xklarkis the shit up yet?
22:44.33fewynbig difference in hardware in software right there
22:44.35fewynno
22:44.46XklarkCMON BLIZZARD
22:44.50BiggieSmallsfewyn
22:44.52fewynthey probably ran into a problem somewhere rolling out the patch to the realms
22:44.58BiggieSmallsare you sure it's 12 million all at once
22:45.02fewynno
22:45.07Malgaynefewyn: to be fair, doesn't WoW have like, 10 or 20k people on a server
22:45.11Parall4xIt doesn't matter. The applications are built to scale as a matter of necessity.
22:45.13fewynyea
22:45.20MasterOfDisguiseas a customer I can complain a bit :) lol <-- *rolls eyes*
22:45.20MalgayneEVE has everybody on one server
22:45.23fewynbut multiply that by the amount of realms
22:45.24BiggieSmallsand even if it was 12 million all at once
22:45.37MolfsontanI'm sure EVE has a server that can tolerate far more
22:45.37fewynit's just a lot of systems to "upgrade"
22:45.38BiggieSmallsisn't it just the US servers
22:45.44Pistaciofor a company to upgrade hardware would be a huge cost and the moving over would be a nightmare
22:46.00Parall4xPlanning can make all of that negligible.
22:46.08Inc`Parall4x: Not really
22:46.12Parall4xlol
22:46.14Inc`Hardware is shifty
22:46.19fewynhave you ever tried to upgrade on a large scale
22:46.23MasterOfDisguiseIsn't it kid of silly to expect Blizzard to act the same as whatever company makes EVE?
22:46.32BiggieSmallshey
22:46.34Parall4xSo you plan for uncertainties and have contingency where possible.
22:46.34Ac-townCCP
22:46.37Pistacioya, hardware is no way as easy as software changes
22:46.40MolfsontanNot enough C
22:46.43BiggieSmallswhere is the patch mirror for 3.3.5
22:46.52fewynwowwiki.com/patch_mirrors
22:46.55Inc`Right
22:46.57Inc`But it still takes time
22:46.59RawsI don't think most of us know exactly how much complexity and sheer effort and luck is involved in running a small data center, nevermind several enormous data centers like Blizzard
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22:47.01MasterOfDisguiseAlso, I'm pretty sure the only ones qualified to give the technical details are the same ones handling them. :P
22:47.08Parall4xMasterOfDisguise: In all things, yes, but I don't want Blizzard to _be_ CCP when I ask for a tad more information.
22:47.10fewynwhat Raws said
22:47.11BiggieSmallsnevermind
22:47.12BiggieSmallsfound it
22:47.21Inc`If you have problems getting something to upgrade and it takes 2 hours instead of 1, then so be it
22:47.22fewynwhile i was in high school i managed the main computer lab
22:47.23PistacioI do like the IT term "Luck" :) hehehe
22:47.26fewynand kept them up to date
22:47.28fewynand running
22:47.33Inc`Keep in mind that each wow realm is a cluster of servers, not a single server
22:47.38Ac-townRaws: I do, its scarry lol
22:47.38MasterOfDisguiseI don't care for the technical details.
22:47.40MasterOfDisguisePersonally
22:47.52Parall4xHmm, just like CCP's Tranquility server.
22:47.59Parall4xAnd who said WoW and EVE were so different?
22:48.01BiggieSmallswhere do I put the file after downloading it
22:48.11fewynjust run it
22:48.12fewyni think
22:48.16BiggieSmallsoh
22:48.21Sakimooin your wow folder
22:48.22Parall4xYeah, if it's from the mirror, it's an executable.
22:48.29MasterOfDisguiseShit happens. What can you say? :P
22:48.34Inc`^
22:48.47SakimooI'm just hoping that 4.0 isn't as bad as 3.0
22:48.59Pistaciothe wow downloader didn't take that long BiggieSmalls
22:49.04fewyn3.0 wasn't bad
22:49.10fewyn2.0 was bad
22:49.14Parall4xThe WoW Downloader wasn't working for him, Pistacio.
22:49.20Pistaciooh :(
22:49.22SakimooI scarcely remember 2.0, was sooo long ago.
22:49.29Inc`3.0 was a cake walk compared to 2.0 or 1.0
22:49.33fewyni just remember 2.0 being horrible
22:49.35RawsKeep in mind that this is a few _hours_ of downtime for servers and clusters that are kept online 24/7/365 otherwise
22:49.47fewyn^
22:49.51Inc`Agreed
22:49.56RawsThat in itself is an enormous feat of engineering
22:50.03fewynFFXI has daily downtime
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22:50.05Parall4xWhere's the point there? Because servers are high availability, they should have more downtime?
22:50.08fewynif i remember correctly
22:50.21fewynlike an hour each day i think
22:50.26BiggieSmallspistacio
22:50.27RawsParall4x: no, the point is that the minimal amount of downtime required to keep them online as-is is pretty amazing :-P
22:50.30MasterOfDisguiseThe point is people shouldn't complain if stuff happens like this just once a week. :P
22:50.34BiggieSmallsit's not the download process
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22:50.44MasterOfDisguiseWell
22:50.45fewynit doesn't happen once a week
22:50.46fewynmore like
22:50.49fewynevery 5 months
22:50.50BiggieSmallsit keeps saying
22:50.53MasterOfDisguiseThe extended maintenance stuff doesn't happen all the time
22:50.55fewynso i don't know why people complain
22:50.57BiggieSmallspatch can't be applied
22:51.06BiggieSmallsI don't mind downtime
22:51.09MasterOfDisguiseSome weeks there's no maintenance at all
22:51.15MasterOfDisguiseSome weeks it's rolling restart
22:51.15Sakimoojust restarts
22:51.16MasterOfDisguises
22:51.19Parall4xChrist, it was the proposal that we be more informed about why there's downtime, not that there is downtime.
22:51.25BiggieSmallsbut this patch bullshit is basically saying to redownload wow
22:51.26fewynhttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/religion/7847625/Jesus-will-return-by-2050-say-40pc-of-Americans.html
22:51.39RawsParall4x: well sure, that's a valid plea
22:51.46RawsMy guess is that the reasons are pretty boring, though
22:51.55Parall4xI find it all interesting.
22:51.58PistacioBiggieSmall there should be a repair program in your wow folder
22:52.00Mr_Rabiesrealms still down?
22:52.03fewynyes
22:52.04Sakimooyar
22:52.08Sakimoootherwise most of us wouldn't be here
22:52.09Mr_Rabiesrraooooooooaor
22:52.27RawsI mean, if you follow a transparent web host's server status feeds, like DreamHost or WebFaction or something, there are pretty mundane posts every day
22:52.30RawsThings are breaking all the time
22:52.44Parall4xI don't think web hosts face the same challenges.
22:52.45mituulhaving said all this isnt it good we now have a irc channel to ask stuff on when WOW is down
22:52.50RawsQuite :P
22:52.54RawsOn both counts
22:52.55Pistacioso is the torch juggling in Dal do-able with the wowhead advice?
22:52.56Parall4xWe know what makes a webserver and the associated environment.
22:53.14Parall4xWhat do we know about - really know - about realm architecture and how it's done in the datacenter.
22:53.17Parall4x*?
22:53.21BiggieSmallspistacio
22:53.28BiggieSmallsI used the repair program once
22:53.33BiggieSmallswhen prompted
22:53.35MasterOfDisguiseAnyway
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22:53.48SakimooBiggieSmalls: just make sure when to back up your addons and wtf stuff.
22:53.50BiggieSmallsdidn't work
22:54.04BiggieSmallsI can redownload all that crap in a minute
22:54.14MasterOfDisguiseAu revoir.
22:54.17MasterOfDisguiseo.o
22:54.18Pistaciok, BiggieSmalls, was suggesting
22:54.20SakimooI would suggest moving the installer into the wow folder, then installing
22:54.31AzrielHave you guys seen the upcomming free MMO called Vindictus?
22:55.08RawsParall4x: I suppose next to nothing, but web hosting is a very widespread service and diluted market these days, whereas the processes and intricacies of hosting an MMO is still something that could probably be considered Blizzard's intellectual property
22:55.12fewynno and it'll probably suck
22:55.15mituulnope but if its as bad as league of legends i wont bother
22:55.17AzrielCheck the video out to this upcomming mmo dude
22:55.17RawsSo them keeping it secret is no surprise to me
22:55.17Azrielhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLMTtYPetVQ
22:55.17fewynlike every mmo coming out lately
22:55.22AzrielGo watch that video
22:55.28Azrieland tell me what you think
22:55.30Parall4xRaws: That's very true.
22:55.43RawsThat said, they could give us *some* detail to whet our appetites
22:55.49Parall4xBut, I suspect that things are a bit more vanilla.
22:55.57RawsLike, "oops, we need to go back and fix a bug real quick" or "some hardware died"
22:56.02RawsGeneral details like that
22:57.02RawsI also suspect that since Blizzard is such an enormous company, their parents at Activision and the whole bureaucratic system there might frown on such transparency
22:57.09RawsI bet the developers would love to give us more detailed updates
22:57.16RawsOr the community managers
22:57.51Parall4xSometimes. I grant Blizzard the need to be somewhat secretive because of the days where players found out enough about the database infrastructure to actually inject items into their inventories... epic, but dangerous.
22:57.59Rawsheh
22:58.02Rawsstares at Gary
22:58.15fewynlol
22:58.24Molfsontanstares at Gravy.
22:58.25MalgayneI don't think it's an Activision issue
22:58.27fewyni thought the same thing Raws
22:58.35kevvHas anyone had a problem installing patch 3.3.2?
22:58.39OscarDivine!status-status
22:58.45OscarDivineyes Kevv
22:58.47MalgayneI think if Blizzard had a history of transparency then Activision would say "You keep right on being transparent"
22:58.49OscarDivine!status
22:58.50FreyjaSyntax: !wow [-na|-eu] <realm> or -status.  Searching North American realms by default.
22:58.51fewyn!status -status
22:58.53FreyjaNorth American: 0/241 \\ Europe: 263/263
22:58.55kevv"Unable to apply patch"
22:58.57fewynthere's a space in there Osagasu
22:59.00fewynOscarDivine
22:59.01SakimooActivision is there just to rake in some extra profits from what I can tell. They are being smart and not really shoving their hand into anything Blizz that I can tell.
22:59.04BiggieSmallskevv
22:59.05RawsMalgayne: I should've just said "Blizzard/Activision" and left out the "parents" part
22:59.09BiggieSmallsI'm getting that too
22:59.12OscarDivinemeh I syntaxed wrong
22:59.15kevverr
22:59.19kevv"Patch aborted'
22:59.19Parall4xSo, you think Activision is very hands-off with Blizzard?
22:59.23kevvfor 3.3.2, BiggieSmalls ?
22:59.27MalgayneThat's what the guys at Activision tell me
22:59.27BiggieSmalls3.3.5
22:59.30OscarDivinekevv:  patch is buggy for everyone right now
22:59.33kevvI can't get .2 :/
22:59.39OscarDivinelol 2 kevv
22:59.41kevvi'm currently on 3.3.0
22:59.42OscarDivine@ even
22:59.43fewynafk for a bit
22:59.44MalgayneActivisions pretty hands off with ALL of their developers
22:59.53MalgayneBlizzard was always its own publisher
23:00.01kevvcan't apply the australian mirror without 3.3.2, and i can't get it :/
23:00.02MalgayneAnd now that publisher is merged with Activision
23:00.11OscarDivineare you EU or US Kevv?
23:00.19MalgayneBut the development? Activision isn't dumb enough to start marching into Blizzard and telling them how to run their show
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23:00.23kevvUS
23:00.31RawsWell that's encouraging
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23:00.43OscarDivineUS Servers are having issues in general.  That might be a problem that's affecting you with this other patch too
23:00.50RawsThe horror stories circulating back when the merger was first announced painted that sort of picture
23:01.22MalgayneAs far as Activision can see, Blizzard is just printing money
23:01.36MalgayneWarCraft is the most successful entertainment franchise in history
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23:01.52OscarDivineMalgayne: actually, it's "gold" in World of Warcraft
23:02.00OscarDivineand they don't even have to print it
23:02.05OscarDivinethey just code it in to exist
23:02.13MalgayneIt would be like hiring James Cameron to make a movie for you and then telling him he was doing it wrong
23:02.15Malgaynedumb
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23:02.22Parall4xOur treasury does something similar, I hear.
23:03.09sataniaHow are you wowhead?
23:03.19OscarDivinehi satania
23:03.22MalgayneWe're good, thanks. :)
23:03.26SakimooHello tharr
23:03.31Gunrunactivision doesn't just chose to be hands off with bliz
23:03.57Gunrunthey're contractually obligated to be
23:03.58Gunrunapparently
23:04.08MalgayneI'm not surprised
23:04.14MalgayneIf I were Blizzard I would make that part of the terms
23:04.16satanianice word there:P contractually
23:04.28MalgayneBut historically Activision has been very hands off with ALL their developers
23:04.36PistacioBiggieSmalls, do you use a Custom UI installer?
23:04.42Gunrundesign wise at least
23:04.56Gunruntelling them what to do, not the case
23:05.13Gunrunsee stuff like IWNet and the way they treat IW in general
23:05.42`vipwhen I just tried to log into the forums, a new terms of use agreement is up
23:05.44SakimooWell, there is some very small good news. Stuck at Connecting right now instead of the instant everything is down
23:05.47Parall4xWhat was all the stink about them muscling out a couple of their CoD developers?
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23:06.01Gunrunthey refused to pay the devs their dues
23:06.13MalgayneI think that's been blown WAY out of proportion
23:06.14Gunrunits more complex than that but that is what it boils down to
23:06.15Parall4xSo they won't tell their devs what to do, just won't pay them?
23:06.43MalgayneThe full story as far as I know is, the two founders of IW hated it at Activision for whatever reason
23:06.55MalgayneAnd were trying to convince Electronic Arts to hire them away
23:07.04BiggieSmallsno, pistacio
23:07.09Gunrunhave you seen the shit bobby says? I don't wonder why IW dislikes activision
23:07.19MalgayneUp to and including sharing confidential documents—nothing serious, but not a good habit to encourage
23:07.34Gunrunlemme find some quotes
23:07.56MalgayneThey were also supposedly claiming an absurd % of the bonuses that Activision was supposed to pay to IW as a whole
23:08.06MalgayneAnd then telling their employees that Activision was holding out on them
23:08.13MalgayneSo Activision fired them
23:08.32MalgayneAnd sued
23:08.40Gunrun"We have a real culture of thrift. The goal that I had in bringing a lot of the packaged goods folks into Activision about 10 years ago was to take all the fun out of making video games."
23:08.58MalgayneAnd then said "We're going to hold onto these bonuses until the lawsuit is worked out.  When it's done, it will be split between the IW devs who are still with us."
23:08.59Gunrunhas tried to instill into the company culture "skepticism, pessimism, and fear" of the global economic downturn, adding, "We are very good at keeping people focused on the deep depression."
23:09.27Parall4xInspiring.
23:09.32MalgayneI've heard it all before, Gunrun. :P
23:09.40Gunrunthose are his ACTUAL WORDS from his ACTUAL MOUTH
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23:10.21MalgayneSo are these:
23:10.33Malgayne"There are four to five things that I've said that can totally be taken out of context. Like 'Taking the fun out of making video games.' I've used that line for a really long time with the investment community to explain that 'Hey, we're mindful of our responsibility to provide a return to our investors.'"
23:10.50Malgayneand
23:10.57Malgayne"I never really think to edit what I'm saying because it's going to be taken out of context because somebody's going to hear it in a different way. But you don't build a successful business by overcharging your customers. And you certainly don't build a successful business that requires a tremendous amount of creativity and inspiration and innovation by figuring out how to take the fun and joy out of what people do. It's lik
23:10.57Malgayneobvious thing to me to think if you hear something like that; you're going to think it's funny, it's not meant to be serious."
23:11.26`vipanother hour
23:11.40Parall4xscreams.
23:11.42Parall4xI need my fix!
23:11.53Gunrunyou think you have it bad
23:12.04`vipI just need to do one more daily with the oracles to buy my egg =(
23:12.08GunrunEU maintanence coincides with a full days maintanence in Eve
23:12.11Gunrunso thats both my MMOs down
23:12.31Ac-townsleep
23:12.33MalgayneGunrun: If you want the full interview it's at http://kotaku.com/5559201/a-delightful-chat-with-the-most-hated-man-in-video-games?skyline=true&s=i
23:13.23Gunrunthe thing is though
23:13.35Gunrunwhere is he going to be truer to form, talking to investors, or talking to a video games blog
23:13.51MalgayneThe thing is that you're seeing a conflict here
23:13.52MalgayneI don't
23:14.01MalgayneSpeaking as someone who has worked for a company with a serious image problem
23:14.11kevvThe update could not be applied.
23:14.13kevvfuuuuu >:{
23:14.19MalgayneI know what it's like to try and fight that perception of your company
23:14.39MalgayneAnd when you think about it, what has Bobby Kotick ever done to us?
23:14.51kevvI don't think this has anything to do with the maintenance though... i downloaded the patch and manually applied it
23:14.54MalgayneActivision puts out really good games
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23:15.22Malgayneeven if it IS true that he's a greedy, megalomaniacal bastard intent on squeezing the life out of all my favorite beloved franchises
23:15.24MalgayneHe's failing
23:15.28MalgayneSo I don't care :P
23:16.09Natemusany news on server up time?
23:16.20Ac-townupdate on status in an hour
23:16.48Natemusi thought it was supposed to be now, it says on my client 16 min ago
23:17.22Natemusoh wait, probably not figuring in daylight savings sorry
23:20.24The_Spiderthey just extended again
23:20.31The_Spiderhttp://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert
23:20.54Natemusk thanks
23:21.22Natemusguess ill go eat some food instead, either way makes me fat :P
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23:22.03ArkaenMalgayne: Bobby Kotick is probably paying you to say that
23:22.12Arkaen>:(
23:22.17MalgayneIf he wants to pay me to say that I'm available
23:22.28Natemushaha, who is bobby kitock
23:22.33MalgayneThe CEO of Activision
23:22.36BiggieSmallskitock
23:22.36BiggieSmallslol
23:22.43Natemusoh jees should know that
23:22.44MalgayneAnd actually, he's paying Dan Amrich to say that
23:22.48BiggieSmallsreminds me of wocky kitocky
23:22.53BiggieSmallsin apollo justice
23:23.01MalgayneBut that doesn't make it false
23:23.08MalgayneI mean, I get paid to tell you Wowhead is awesome
23:23.19ArkaenBobby Kotick is a gigantic douchebag
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23:23.43ArkaenWho should not, in all honesty, be the CEO of a company that was merged with Blizzard.
23:23.48MalgayneLol
23:23.53MalgayneArkaen read scrollback
23:24.03ArkaenMalgayne: I'm being honest here
23:24.05MalgayneGunrun and I JUST discussed this
23:24.16ArkaenMalgayne: You can't make me not believe it
23:24.24Mr_Rabiesmake the realms come up
23:24.25Mr_Rabiesjerks
23:24.28ArkaenMr_Rabies: no
23:24.28MalgayneThen this discussion is over :P
23:24.31Mr_Rabies:(
23:25.04Furyhunterlol
23:25.07Furyhunter35 minutes
23:25.12Furyhunteruntil 1 hour left
23:25.18Furyhunteruntil 1 hour left
23:25.26Natemusso does blizzard join this at all?
23:25.28Donh35 minutes until they push it back again :)
23:25.37MalgayneNatemus: Not publicly
23:25.44MalgayneSomeone in here could be from Blizzard but they wouldn't admit it
23:25.47DonhDoubtful.  Wowhead is a fansite, not an official blizzard thing
23:25.49ArkaenMalgayne: Bobby Kotick is a businessman.  He just doesn't act the way that I'd figure anyone respectable would act.
23:25.50BiggieSmallsfurryhunter
23:26.00BiggieSmallsit's only for an  update
23:26.02MalgayneBlizzard is very careful about their PR
23:26.03BiggieSmallslol
23:26.04The_Spideri cant imagine the quick patches / re-writes / and compiles they are doing
23:26.09DonhThey should though.  Lets go find the devs and send them pretty invitations :p
23:26.14The_Spiderthis patch is gonna be un-stable as hell
23:26.24NatemusI worked for a software company that monitored forums and stuff, so was just thinking they would
23:26.27ArkaenMalgayne: That's why they puff up features for the next expansion at Blizzcon and then remove them.
23:26.28Parall4xThe_Spider: Why?
23:26.41BiggieSmallsI love it when I bite my tongue when sneezing
23:26.45MalgayneArkaen: Where's all this hate coming from?
23:26.53ArkaenMalgayne: It really just makes me feel like Bobby Kotick is forcing them to lose their "It's done when it's done" policy
23:26.58DomhLikely from his hanging around Gary :)
23:27.04ArkaenNo
23:27.12Mr_Rabies<@Malgayne> Someone in here could be from Blizzard but they wouldn't admit it
23:27.33Mr_Rabiesevery now and then the UI mod used to go into the wow addon makers' channel
23:27.39MalgayneThing is, Blizzard's development policy has always been defined by one central concept:
23:27.39Mr_Rabiesslouken
23:27.54Malgayne"If it's not fucking amazing, then we don't release it"
23:28.07MalgayneThis shows up in two ways
23:28.09Mr_Rabies<Arkaen> Malgayne: Bobby Kotick is a businessman.  He just doesn't act the way that I'd figure anyone respectable would act.
23:28.11ArkaenOh yeah, Malgayne
23:28.12Natemusyah, I cant wait for starcraft 2
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23:28.13blademeldMalgayne: so why were paladins released?
23:28.15Malgayne1. Long development cycles
23:28.18ArkaenLike Wrath of the Lich King's release raids, Malgayne
23:28.20Arkaen:\
23:28.21BiggieSmallspaladins ARE amazing
23:28.26MalgayneThings take forever
23:28.35Parall4xPaladins are a running mistake.
23:28.35BiggieSmallsdon't you mean why were warlocks released?
23:28.37Mr_Rabiesbusinessmen don't generally act respectable, their goal is to uphold promises to shareholders
23:28.38MalgayneBecause Blizzard won't let them out the door until they're done
23:28.49MalgayneAnd 2. Things get cancelled
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23:28.53ArkaenMr_Rabies: huh, I guess that's true enough.
23:29.00MalgayneBecause if it's not good enough and they can't fix it, they just throw it away
23:29.08MalgayneExamples: Path of the Titans
23:29.11MalgayneWarcraft Adventures
23:29.14MalgayneStarCraft: Ghost
23:29.18Mr_Rabiesunfortunately in order to make the big bucks you need to be somewhat heartless
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23:29.21Malgayneetc. etc.
23:29.25Natemusany game devs here?
23:29.41XklarkMalgayne: you are forgetting about the flying bombers in Wintergrasp
23:29.48LugburzI just got insulted by a paddler
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23:29.52ArkaenI'm most annoyed by the fact that Malgayne is pretty much useless now
23:29.56Arkaens/Malgayne/archaeology/
23:29.56Xklarkthey were even on the cover of the box.. yet never implemented
23:29.57ArkaenSorry
23:29.59ArkaenXD
23:30.00fewynXklark: the flying bombers were actually removed
23:30.01Malgaynebahahaha
23:30.03fewynbecause of Goon Squad
23:30.05LugburzArkaen; you are actually insanely useless
23:30.09Xklarkwhat happened O_O
23:30.11ArkaenLugburz: Pants
23:30.15Furyhunter<fewyn> because of Goon Squad <-- TYPICAL
23:30.16LugburzBIKE
23:30.16robokittyI must say, I'm glad you guys are taking the brunt of this, so us Europeans can have a smooth and flawless patchday >:)
23:30.16MalgayneArchaeology is no more or less useless than it ever was
23:30.23fewynmega abused them during wotlk beta
23:30.24Furyhuntershush robokitty :(
23:30.25blademeldArkaen: I'd rather not do archaeology on 6 toons
23:30.30ArkaenMalgayne: It was portrayed to be one of the major forms of alternative character progression
23:30.30Mr_Rabiesgoon squad is awesome
23:30.41Morrilblademeld: DO IT
23:30.41robokittywhat have they done this time?
23:30.47ArkaenSo I'd say it's less useful because it adds 0 value to the game besides an additional secondary profession
23:30.47MalgayneYeah, and they couldn't get it right
23:30.57Mr_Rabiesthey're the best thing that could happen to help make a game grief proof
23:31.01fewynyea archaeology is still going to be awesome
23:31.05Mr_Rabiesbecause they do it on such a huge scale
23:31.08ArkaenOH MAN
23:31.10MalgayneArchaeology was always supposed to be a casual player's game
23:31.12fewynit will have a bunch of lore and cosmetic stuffs
23:31.18Malgayneit was for people who wanted to explore and read lore
23:31.18ArkaenI CAN DIG UP ARTIFACTS SO THAT I CAN GET NON COMBAT PETS
23:31.20Arkaen>:
23:31.24Natemusdo you know if all of the rest of the proffessions will be updated well?
23:31.31MalgayneNot for people who wanted to progress their character up the raiding ladder
23:31.58fewyn^
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23:32.05ArkaenMalgayne: And I want to explore and read lore, but I can just do that in a more time efficient manner by reading what other people have found
23:32.10ArkaenThere's no motivation not to, now.
23:32.14LimbostonOhai
23:32.18ArkaenOH WAIT
23:32.19fewynpath of the titans was basically a fancy glyph system that was gated
23:32.23LimbostonStupid Colloquy is broken
23:32.24ArkaenI CAN GET AN ACHIEVEMENT, I BET!
23:32.28Furyhunterpath of the titans, lolk
23:32.50fewynit sounded cool but i think i'd rather have the new medium glyphs
23:33.05fewynand i need a new mousepad :(
23:33.10Parall4xWoW probably doesn't need additional Lore-introducing features when most players don't read the quests prompts unless absolutely necessary.
23:33.20fewynYou don't read quest text?
23:33.22fewynFor shame
23:33.23ArkaenSame here, to be honest.  But I still wish that archaeology did something slightly useful
23:33.27Parall4xI sure as hell do.
23:33.30MalgayneParall4x: That's the whole point
23:33.33ArkaenOH WAIT, MORE FISH FEAST EQUIVALENTS
23:33.37Parall4xI read every single quest when doing Loremaster/Seeker.
23:33.48ArkaenI liked the idea of those
23:33.49SakimooIf I wasn't too busy hardcore leveling I might actually read em
23:33.55BiggieSmallsI used to read quest text
23:33.55ArkaenSakimoo smells
23:33.56MalgayneIf archaeology did something "slightly useful" by Arkaen's standards, then it would be a necessary form of character advancement for a lvl 85 character
23:34.07ArkaenMalgayne: You're defining my standards, now
23:34.08Arkaen;P
23:34.11fewynhrm
23:34.14LimbostonOnly if I findthem interesting
23:34.15fewyn14.99 for a mousepad
23:34.18LimbostonFind them*
23:34.19MalgayneIn which case it would be a form of character progression that REQUIRED you to read the lore
23:34.19LugburzArkaen; you had none dont lie
23:34.20BiggieSmallsBecuase I didn't know One could unveil quest text immediately
23:34.22fewyndo i really want to spend that much on a mouse pad?
23:34.22fewynhttp://www.steelseries.com/us/products/partners/starcraft_2
23:34.23MalgayneWhich many people don't want to do
23:34.25Lugburzelbows Limboston
23:34.35ArkaenMalgayne: Alternative character progression.
23:34.48ArkaenAs is, there is only progression of character through levels and gear
23:34.49Parall4xHeh, sorry, not to be lacking in humility, but the folks I play with don't need more ways to be subpar.
23:34.55Sakimoodepends on the quality of it Fewyn
23:35.10Sakimooon that one, no.
23:35.34LugburzSakimoo; its overpriced because they know I'll buy it anyways >:
23:35.38MalgayneArkaen: name a non Blizzard RPG that you like so that I may use it in an analogy
23:35.49ArkaenRPG or MMORPG?
23:35.52LugburzADVENTURE QUEST
23:35.54Malgayneeither
23:35.56Lugburzor runesca=e
23:35.58fewynlol adventure quest
23:36.00`vipmy wife plays WoW and she also plays Wizard 101 and loves it more :l
23:36.02fewynlol runescape
23:36.04Furyhunterlol adventure quest
23:36.10SakimooMaple Story
23:36.11ArkaenI used to play both of those
23:36.13ArkaenGood times
23:36.15Arkaenuhh
23:36.15Lugburzfewyn; lol those are totally Arkaen 's FAVORITE games
23:36.17Parall4xNeoPets
23:36.20Lugburz's point is proven
23:36.22LugburzOH GOD
23:36.24fewynman neopets was the shiznit
23:36.25Sakimoololjk
23:36.28fewynwhen i was younger
23:36.29Natemushello kitty island adventure
23:36.32fewynit's all fail now
23:36.32Lugburz^
23:36.35Lugburzbest fucking game ever
23:36.38Parall4xThat's where I started in RPGs. Before that, it was all FPSs.
23:36.43MalgayneDoesn't matter, I just need an example
23:36.51ArkaenMalgayne: Sorry, was busy laughing for a minute there.  Uhh, I guess DDO is fine
23:36.52LugburzFF11?
23:37.03RawsI wish Limbero would show up already
23:37.05RawsI want burgers
23:37.09MalgayneOkay so imagine if some DLC for DDO came out
23:37.11Lugburzhaha
23:37.13Natemusdamn reminds me of food
23:37.22MalgayneAnd they said they were going to introduce a whole now way of levelling your character
23:37.32MalgayneOutside of the traditional D&D class/gear/level system
23:37.44MalgayneAnd it was going to give you a totally different way to progress your character
23:38.01MalgayneAnd then only offered vague ideas of how
23:38.33MalgayneWould you be surprised if they worked on it for six months and then said "We really honestly can't figure out a way to make this work that isn't stupid"
23:39.13ArkaenMalgayne: To be fair, Turbine's budget is much more limited and they don't have an effectively infinite pool of wealth and time to draw from like blizzard does
23:39.15Parall4xI'd be disappointed.
23:39.31MalgayneDon't get me wrong, I'm disappointed too
23:39.35Parall4xWhy start developing something if it didn't make sense from the start or you didn't know what it was you were developing?
23:39.43MalgayneBut I'd much rather they had the balls to say "We can't make this work" than to stick with a bad idea
23:39.49ArkaenParall4x: Why announce it at a con watched by MILLIONS?
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23:40.01Fayneheard there was excitement in here
23:40.07Parall4xArkaen: Because we're loyal, and will see the logic in their decision.
23:40.18MalgayneAlso Arkaen: Blizzard has plenty of money, but it's not infinite and neither is their time
23:40.23Parall4xI don't blame Blizzard for pulling it, I blame them for ever introducing the idea or working on developing it.
23:40.26ArkaenMalgayne: Effectively infinite, :P
23:40.28RawsGosh dang http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/06/batterylife.jpg
23:40.39ArkaenSince they do make literal billions per year
23:40.46BiggieSmallsfuck battle.net
23:41.15ArkaenMalgayne: I got to agree with Parall4x, actually
23:41.43MalgayneArkaen: If you assumed that every single person at Blizzard was paid minimum wage, employee salaries along would still be nearly a billion dollars
23:42.14BiggieSmallsminimum wage of what state
23:42.23ArkaenThe state of that's not relevant
23:42.24BiggieSmallsthere's seperate minimum wages for every state
23:42.26MalgayneCalifornia, where they are incorporated
23:42.37MalgayneWhich is also where I live which is why I knew it offhand
23:42.42BiggieSmallsI agree arkaen
23:43.57LugburzWOOT for high minimum wages
23:44.00Lugburz>_>
23:44.09BiggieSmallsNew Yawk has the highest
23:44.12ArkaenLugburz works for a penny an hour
23:44.21LugburzArkaen; correction, 8.55 an hour
23:44.21BiggieSmallsthank you to Ted Kennedy
23:44.31Lugburzthat ist my states minimum wage
23:44.52LugburzBiggieSmalls; what is your states minimum wage?
23:45.07ArkaenMalgayne: Guh, I completely forgot what I was going to say
23:45.13BiggieSmallseither 7 something or 9 something
23:45.27ArkaenI blame Lugburz ._.
23:45.32blademeldI want to work at Blizzard at minimum wage
23:45.38ArkaenOh well, either way
23:45.43MalgayneI think Blizzard employees are expected to be gods among men
23:45.43LugburzBiggieSmalls; it would have to be 9 something
23:45.44BiggieSmallsyou'd get Friends and Family
23:45.51BiggieSmallsyeah
23:45.52MalgayneAnd Activision employees are expected to be Satan's spawn
23:45.53BiggieSmallsNew Yawk
23:45.56MalgayneAnd neither are true
23:46.03ArkaenMalgayne: I don't expect either
23:46.12BiggieSmallsI learned in a Homos and Queers class a while ago
23:46.13ArkaenI expect Bobby Kotick to be Satan's Father
23:46.20BiggieSmallsaka Home and careers
23:46.30LugburzArkaen; I am actually
23:46.39ArkaenYou're Bobby Kotick?
23:46.44MalgayneArkaen: http://alpha-build.net/2010/04/21/bobby-kotick-the-supervillain-of-the-games-industry/
23:46.45LugburzI fucked hel and out came baby satan, he used to be a cutie pie
23:46.50Lugburzno I am lugburz.......
23:46.53ArkaenMalgayne: Yeah, I've seen that :p
23:47.35ArkaenMalgayne: Still, he's neigh impossible to like when he says he wants a dry, unfun environment for his employees, game prices to be higher, and claims to have been an avid gamer
23:48.14MalgayneKotick doesn't want a dry, unfun environment for his employees
23:48.18MalgayneI've BEEN to the Blizzard offices
23:48.28ArkaenKotick has explicitly stated it, iirc
23:48.40MalgayneI read the quotes
23:48.44BiggieSmallsstupid site
23:48.45Lugburzblizzard's offices are absolutely amazing
23:48.49RawsYou say he's explicitly stated lots of horrible things, but has any of that actually come into existence
23:48.58Lugburzmy mind is blown by how much it isn't like a normal office
23:49.07ArkaenRaws: No, because he doesn't have THAT much power
23:49.09Arkaen:p
23:49.16RawsYeah, so why worry? :P
23:49.18MalgayneKotick wants to make sure that it's 100% clear to his investors that he will brook none of this dot-com bubble style "Spending all your work hours at the ping pong table when you should be making games" bullshit
23:49.35RawsHe appears to be a competent businessman, and that's what he was hired for
23:49.48ArkaenEither way
23:49.57LugburzI like it when my workers take friday afternoon off for a kegger
23:49.57RawsHe doesn't appear to be activ(ision)ely wrecking anything
23:50.09ArkaenMy WoW subscription is canceled because it just doesn't feel as fun as it used to
23:50.25Malgaynehttp://www.wowhead.com/blog=159662#screenshots:159662:16
23:50.26RawsSomehow I doubt that is directly or indirectly Kotick's fault :P
23:50.32ArkaenRaws: YES IT IS
23:50.38ArkaenRaws: Cause he has a bad haircut
23:50.42Arkaentherefore it is all his fault
23:50.46Malgayne...
23:50.50Malgayne...he DOES have a terrible haircut.
23:50.55RawsThat much is true
23:51.20Rawshttp://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/06/06-21-10attvzw.jpg
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23:51.26BiggieSmallshttp://remedialwaste.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/kotick.jpg
23:51.46ArkaenBut yeah
23:51.54ArkaenWoW just feels a bit stagnated to me
23:52.05ArkaenPlywood Arena did not help >_>
23:52.13*** join/#wowhead Limbawstin (183d0e2b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.61.14.43)
23:52.22Limbawstinthere we go
23:52.32LimbawstinI got hold of the laptop
23:52.37ArkaenAnyways, time to swim away from the Limbawstin
23:52.41Limbawstinthe rest if the family finally got back
23:52.53Limbawstinof*
23:53.39RawsHello Limbawstin
23:53.52RawsHow did Bawstin treat you today
23:53.53Limbawstinhi
23:53.56Limbawstingreat
23:54.02Limbawstinwe went o the duck tour
23:54.03RawsFantastic
23:54.05Rawslol
23:54.06MolfsontanI'm glad you like it, as I will reiterate
23:54.07Limbawstinon*
23:54.11MolfsontanWhere are you heading later?
23:54.16Limbawstinhome
23:54.20RawsDid you choose big splash or little splash?
23:54.27MolfsontanSo wait, what was the America trip about?
23:54.32LimbawstinRaws, what?
23:54.33MolfsontanGoing to Boston and just seeing ducks?
23:54.33BiggieSmallshttp://www.bingegamer.net/2009/bobby-kotick-is-the-devil/
23:54.40RawsLimbawstin: :O
23:54.42MolfsontanWho is Bobby Kotick?
23:54.47LimbawstinMolfsontan, going to a class, the duck tour is a tour by boat or car
23:54.58RawsThe driver's supposed to ask you if you want a big splash or a little splash before he drives into the river
23:55.00Limbawstinand*
23:55.01BiggieSmallsactivision ceo
23:55.06LimbawstinI'm freakin' tired
23:55.09BiggieSmallsis he jewish?
23:55.15RawsAnd then disregard your choice and do a big splash anyway and get everyone soaked
23:55.19BiggieSmallsjust a curious question
23:55.20LimbawstinRaws, oh, he didn't, but we had the most awesome driver
23:55.20LugburzOH FUCK DUCK TOURS
23:55.23LugburzI HATE THOSE BOATS
23:55.25LugburzTHEY RUN ME OVER
23:55.30RawsHey, don't hate on duck boats
23:55.33Limbawstinhe claimed he was a descendant of William Shakespeare
23:55.36LugburzI will hate on them
23:55.40Limbawstinhe made loads of great jokes
23:55.48RawsOurs were saving people during our state of emergency flooding earlier in the spring
23:55.57Limbawstinand was dressed up like shakespeare
23:55.58LugburzI will stop hating on them when I stop being yelled at by them and they stop trying to chase me all over a fucking lake
23:56.07RawsOwned
23:56.20RawsI almost drove a duck boat into a bridge support
23:56.24RawsOn my tenth birthday
23:56.29MolfsontanLimbawstin: Sounds fun, in fact
23:56.38MolfsontanI wish you had been able to actually do something, though
23:56.43LimbawstinRaws, yeah, our driver told us they use to help out when there are floods
23:56.56LimbawstinMolfsontan, we also went to the Apple Store
23:57.03Limbawstinand are doing more touristing tomorrow
23:57.09Limbawstinthen I have all weekend by myself
23:57.12RawsHow was the fruit stand?
23:57.16RawsBelieve it or not, I haven't been there
23:57.18Limbawstinthen a week with the people I'm staying at (friends)
23:57.21RawsJust seen it from the street
23:57.22Limbawstinthen two weeks of class
23:57.25Limbawstingonna be awesome
23:57.30MolfsontanAh, so the touristing is what it was about.  You need to go eat some authentic New England food
23:57.36LimbawstinRaws, it was good, but you tricked me, no ipads >(
23:57.39MolfsontanBoston Baked Beans and some Clam Chowder
23:57.42MolfsontanGo
23:57.43Rawswtf, no iPads?
23:57.43Limbawstin:(*
23:57.47Limbawstinnope
23:57.50Rawso_O
23:57.53RawsJeez
23:57.55Limbawstinand not in the cambridge store either
23:57.56MolfsontanYesterday was the release of the iPeriod
23:58.06*** join/#wowhead Primar (~nnscript@cpc1-ware3-0-0-cust970.lutn.cable.ntl.com)
23:58.13RawsThey've got plenty at the store five minutes from my house
23:58.24Raws'lo Primar
23:58.28RawsPlenty of Primars
23:58.33PrimarSO MANY
23:58.38LimbawstinRaws, I'm thinking of headingdown to the iphone 4 release there (7am thursday) and watch everyone going apeshit about it'
23:58.47Limbawstinohi Primar
23:58.47Rawslolo
23:59.02RawsI'll be chilling here with my 2G iFoon
23:59.07Limbawstinhaha
23:59.11BiggieSmallsfuckign site maintenance is bullshit
23:59.12LimbawstinI'm not getting one myself
23:59.20Limbawstinbut it'll be fun to watch
23:59.21`vipcalm down BiggieSmalls
23:59.22BiggieSmallsI'll be up all night waiting for it to be up to redownload wow
23:59.27fewyn!status -status
23:59.28`viphaha
23:59.30FreyjaNorth American: 0/241 \\ Europe: 263/263
23:59.35`vipcry
23:59.37LimbawstinEurope wins
23:59.41BiggieSmallsBAWWWWWWWWWWWWW
23:59.45RawsUntil next week, that is
23:59.45`vip1 minute
23:59.49`viptill they go green!
23:59.56`vipor till we get pushed back another hour!

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