IRC log for #wowhead on 20080723

00:00.25Gary13579http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details/thottbot.com?site0=thottbot.com&y=t&z=3&h=300&w=470&c=1&u[]=thottbot.com&x=2008-07-23T00%3A03%3A02.000Z&check=www.alexa.com&signature=muZikErjfF5m3SoaK%2BR4PLFELRk%3D&range=max&size=Medium
00:00.38Poul|Raiderfor now i will just do like this, uploading what i want to share my self: ) but thx, might use it later
00:01.00MalgayneTotally up to you.  Just thought it was something you might find handy.  :)
00:01.15Poul|Raiderye, i see the use of it, just not right now :)
00:01.33Poul|Raideri was just taunting with my key :D
00:01.34Poul|Raideromg
00:01.48Poul|Raiderbut we had livestream running also
00:02.12CorganMalgayne, how do you set it to do that?
00:02.22MalgayneNot sure, I haven't messed with it myself
00:02.28MalgayneYou could post in the thread
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00:02.36Malgayneor PM Amandasaurus on their forum
00:02.40Corganhrmm
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01:14.44Poul|RaiderMalgayne, corgan, sorry but i havent realy used the wowhead addon or into how wowhead update, so will come as a noob question. But how fast does items get added to wowhead if i did run the addon?
01:15.09Mal|afkSite updates come manually, and we try to do them every 48 hours
01:15.15Poul|Raideroki
01:15.52MalgayneIf you're talking about wotlk updates, though
01:16.07MalgayneSee http://www.wowhead.com/?forums&topic=32850&p=297422
01:16.17Poul|Raideroki
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01:16.48Poul|Raiderwas just if i could use wowhead to link items on our page without having to wait if the item is not there yet, but reading what you linked, 2sec
01:17.18Poul|Raideroki :)
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01:29.32OrphisAre the hunter's pet talent tree available ?
01:30.02Malgaynefor WotLK?
01:30.10Malgayneor regular wow?
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01:41.51OrphisMalgayne, for woltk
01:41.56OrphisBut I've already found it
01:42.04MalgayneRoger
01:42.11Orphishttp://petopia.brashendeavors.net/html/articles/wotlktalents.php
01:42.40Sky2042_afkskiit skiit.
01:43.13CBGpet's have talents?!
01:43.37OrphisIn woltk Yes
01:43.58OrphisNo more silly point like they have now
01:44.03CBGah ok...! Thought I must be a major idiot to get to 0 and not notice that!
01:44.10CBGAh, good! :)
01:44.15CBGtraning points ftl
01:44.26OrphisNow they have the training points
01:44.47OrphisAnd they will have talent points... well all described there
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01:59.44LukianRoar of Recovery* 1/1 for 34 focus, 5 minute CD, 30 yd range roar that restores 40% of the hunter's total mana over 8 seconds
01:59.45Lukianhawt
02:02.49Lukianso raids can permit 1 tanking pet now for Roar of Fortitude? XD
02:03.02LukianPrincess can come raid with me ^_^
02:03.28Corgan^_^
02:03.53LukianThey better not remove charge from boars :o
02:04.06Corgancharge is global
02:04.14Lukianreally? :O
02:04.18Corganyes
02:04.21Corganor
02:04.23Corganshould be
02:04.32Lukianso this is in addition to charge?
02:04.32LukianCharge*: 1/1 for 35 focus, 8-25 range, 30 second CD immobilises target for 1 second, +25% PAP on next attack
02:04.36Corganyeah
02:04.42Lukiannice
02:05.07CBGScreech ftw!
02:05.26LukianLick Your Wounds* 1/1 for channeled 3 minute CD where pet heals itself for 25% of max health over 10 seconds
02:05.33Lukian*your*, shouldn't that heal the hunter instead? :p
02:05.57Corganno
02:06.06Corganbecause the pet uses it!
02:06.16Lukianthe pet licks your wounds :p
02:06.23Lukian(it feeds off your blood?)
02:06.36CBGI guess you could interperet it as a command from yourself to your pet...
02:06.37Corganthe pet licks it's own wounds!
02:06.44Corgansilly
02:06.44CBGSo you're telling the pet to lick It's wounds...
02:06.55Lukianoh, true
02:06.57CBGmaybe it's a bat? :P
02:07.01Lukianhahaha
02:07.28Lukianit's a wolf actually XD
02:07.55CBGbut carrion bird ftw. level 70 and still have the swoop i tamed in mulgore. first thing I ever tamed - right after the quest for it
02:07.57Lukian<PROTECTED>
02:08.04LukianMoths have tongues?
02:08.57LukianCorgan, looks like dash or dive is global, but boar charge is probably gone
02:09.09Corganwhat
02:09.17CBGIs it still going to be possible to have a pet equally good at tanking AND DPS with this talent system?
02:09.22Lukianunless it's their unique ability
02:09.23CorganCharge*: 1/1 for 35 focus, 8-25 range, 30 second CD immobilises target for 1 second, +25% PAP on next attack
02:09.37Lukianthat's only for Ferocity pet classes
02:09.38CBGIt's why I love my Carrion Bird. I can solo perfectly fine but still do decent DPS as BM spec.
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02:09.51Lukianboar is tenacity
02:10.08Corganoh
02:10.08Corganwhat
02:10.14Corganthat's dumb
02:10.22CorganI thought the pets could pick all 3 trees
02:10.25Lukiannope
02:10.30Corganfail.
02:10.50Lukianeach pet family is meant to get a unique ability though
02:10.57Lukianso I assume screech will still exist
02:11.02Lukianas will thunderstomp etc.
02:12.26RawsCorgan, do you set fire to the bed after making love
02:12.38Corganyes
02:12.46RawsDo you do it as a sacrifice to the gods
02:13.07Corganof course
02:13.12RawsGood
02:13.23RawsAlso, http://ross.fappett.com/arma/dudespawn.jpg
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02:14.06LukianRaws, nice whitespace
02:14.29CorganLukian
02:14.38Corganhttp://wotlk.wowhead.com/?spell=35298
02:14.42Corganboar pet skill
02:15.01Corganand boars get dash
02:15.09Mr_Rabies2http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/07/20/the-roads-of-azeroth-now-with-biker-gangs/
02:15.11Mr_Rabies2wow
02:15.15Mr_Rabies2how did i miss this
02:15.31Mr_Rabies2imagine starting up an arena
02:15.38Corganlol
02:15.45Mr_Rabies2seeing 5 death knights ride up on a hog
02:15.53LukianCorgan, that's not unique. ravager will have it too :/
02:16.24Mr_Rabies2ravagers win imo
02:16.30Corganwrong
02:16.32CorganLukian
02:16.33Corganhttp://wotlk.wowhead.com/?spell=53562
02:16.36Corgannew ravager spell
02:16.46Mr_Rabies2no more gore :(
02:16.50Mr_Rabies2but but but
02:16.52Corganboars get gore
02:16.57Mr_Rabies2that's an inconvienient truth corgan
02:17.08Mr_Rabies2the fact that ravagers can no longer gore :(
02:18.10Lukianso boars lose their 1 sec movement impair.. and ravagers get a 2 sec stun :/
02:18.32Corganand they both get dash
02:19.04Lukianpet abilities have a GCD yeah?
02:19.13Mr_Rabies2brb
02:19.16Mr_Rabies2restarting
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02:36.17LukianHas Inferno spawns on Anethron (I think) been hotfixed yet?
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02:46.49Poul|Raiderhttp://www.mogulus.com/borkedraider got my stream working
02:46.59Corgan:o
02:47.00Corgan:D
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02:48.06Poul|Raider:)
02:48.11Poul|Raideratleast i know its working now
02:48.14Poul|Raidercheer
02:48.24Poul|Raiderbut need another monitor for my irc
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04:19.22Poul|Raideris it posible to see if someone do a /whois nick nick on you ?`
04:19.51Mr_Rabies2nope, not in mirc or wow, whichever you're asking
04:20.03Mr_Rabies2though you can see ctcp's
04:20.23Poul|Raiderwas thinking of irc
04:20.32Mr_Rabies2er irc
04:20.34Mr_Rabies2as far as i know
04:20.45Poul|Raideri cant get any tool or soemthing that could tell me if someone is doing a /whois on me then
04:20.46Mr_Rabies2i'm pretty sure it's all serverside
04:20.55Poul|Raideroki
04:20.56Mr_Rabies2also are you on vista
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04:48.30TecnoBratI just healed Utgarde keep with nothing but holy shock
04:48.31TecnoBratlol
04:48.49TecnoBratactually, holy shock and crit holy shocks with instant holy lights
04:49.26Poul|Raider01:48 <@TecnoBrat> send me a beta key
04:49.29Poul|Raiderso you got one?
04:49.34TecnoBratyep
04:49.36Poul|Raider:D
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04:53.33JunkHead-Work!
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05:27.05GnarfozTecnoBrat: holy palas are awsum, yes?
05:27.21JaerynCan I have a 20k judgement please?
05:27.23Gnarfozstill waiting for a key AND for blizz eu to unfuck themselves.
05:37.11TecnoBratwtf
05:37.15TecnoBratokay, so this is broken
05:37.24TecnoBratyou judge something with Judgement of Justice
05:37.27TecnoBratand guess what?
05:37.38TecnoBratevery hit from that point on does like 1500 extra holy dmg?
05:39.03GnarfozoO
05:39.21GnarfozI'm seriously considering making my paladin my main in wotlk
05:39.21Gnarfoz;D
05:41.03TecnoBratGnarfoz, http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/1600/wowscrnshot072208224002kn1.jpg
05:41.09TecnoBratso I put up SoR
05:41.13TecnoBratJudged it immediately
05:42.35Gnarfozlooks like it procs on each seal proc?
05:42.41Gnarfozgotta read up on JoJ
05:44.28TecnoBratshrugs
05:44.32TecnoBratall I know, is its broken
05:44.47TecnoBratI hit things like 3 times with my fast mace
05:44.48TecnoBratand they die
05:46.24Gnarfozsounds like what pallys should be like, to me! xD
05:51.24Ziconpokes a random person.
05:53.07Jaerynmust
05:53.07Jaerynget
05:53.08Jaerynbeta
05:53.12Jaerynbah
05:53.22Jaerynthat second enter was accidental
05:53.26Jaerynfat fingers -_-
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05:54.48Jaerynthose are some weak melee swings
05:55.13Letothat's what she said D:
05:58.44Lukianlolz
05:58.58Lukiankings + fort + stormpike's salvation in AV = 25k HP bear :D
06:01.45Mr_Rabies2wtb corgan
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07:12.39Lukianpeak honour in AV looks like 2.75k/hr
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07:36.25JunkHead-WorkLukian
07:36.34JunkHead-WorkI just now noticed something.
07:36.57JunkHead-WorkI just did a check on wowhead's wotlk site.
07:37.04JunkHead-WorkChekcing for Plate with defense.
07:37.15Lukianaye there is none
07:37.19JunkHead-WorkThere are about 15 entires
07:37.22JunkHead-Workentries*
07:37.24JunkHead-WorkBUT
07:37.30Lukian"added in wotlk" = none?
07:37.50JunkHead-Workhttp://wotlk.wowhead.com/?items=4&filter=ty=4;cr=131:42;crs=1:1;crv=0:0
07:38.01JunkHead-WorkBut that's not the issue.
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07:38.23JunkHead-Workhttp://wotlk.wowhead.com/?items=4&filter=ty=4;cr=131:123;crs=1:1;crv=0:0  <-- plate with spell damage
07:38.28JunkHead-Worknone of which has defense
07:39.00alaytonit seems pretty apparent that those are holy pally pieces
07:39.28JunkHead-Workwell what the hell are prot pallies in the beta doing?
07:39.33JunkHead-WorkApparantly healing.
07:39.39Letolol
07:40.11alaytontheyre using touched by the light.
07:41.18Letothe pope had something to say about that during world youth day i think
07:41.19Lukiantouches alayton
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07:41.43JunkHead-WorkIncreases your spell power by an amount equal to 30% of your Stamina and increases the amount healed by your critical heals by 30%.
07:41.52JunkHead-WorkQuite nice.
07:43.51Letobbl
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07:49.59Lukianoh nice
07:50.04Lukianthat's a good talent :D
07:50.16Lukianthat means we use warrior tanking/high stam gear now?
07:50.39Lukianlol divine str is in the prot tree!!
07:52.21JunkHead-Workyeah the threat is there. but I don't see any gear with defense.
07:53.03Lukianwow, they've really weirded up the paladin prot tree
07:55.04JunkHead-WorkLooks like a lot of possibly good talents.
07:59.15Lukianwhere'd precision go?
07:59.39JunkHead-WorkI took it and hid it.
08:01.06JunkHead-WorkI'm watching Armageddon
08:02.01Poul|Raiderso, i was thinking of ordering some mor ram. but is it true that (with vista32bit) i wont be able to use more then 3k mb?
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08:05.05fricwell, the real limit is 4gb. although you will probably end up only being able to use around 3gb
08:05.23fricupgrade to a 64bit OS while you're at it ;)
08:05.47Lukianhands out copies of ubuntu
08:10.03Ziconeats Ubuntu.
08:11.45Lukianeats Zicon
08:11.59ZiconDon't make promises you can't keep.
08:12.20JunkHead-Workeats promises
08:12.34JunkHead-Workpoops out disappointment
08:12.38JunkHead-Work:D
08:12.50Lukianoh? but you, Zicon are the only one preventing me from keeping it ;)
08:14.51JunkHead-Workdoes wowwiki or anywhere have basic stats from the beta up yet?
08:15.09JunkHead-Worklike, lvl 80 stats so we can determine tables and stuff?
08:15.25JunkHead-Workalgorithms I guess is what I'm talking about.
08:15.34Ziconlukian: Pft, I'm not doing anything!
08:15.44Lukiangiggles
08:16.06LukianJunkHead, like critical rating conversion and shit?
08:16.18JunkHead-Workyeah
08:16.20JunkHead-Worklike...
08:16.34JunkHead-Workhit rating needed and stuff
08:16.37JunkHead-Workexpertise
08:17.23Lukianthe %ages will be the same XD
08:19.42JunkHead-WorkHmm...
08:20.01JunkHead-WorkAt 70, 22.1 crit rating is 1% for a warrior at least.
08:21.22JunkHead-WorkSome of these items have a good bit of crit on them.
08:22.53JunkHead-Workhmm... wowhead tooltips already have some conversions.
08:23.16JunkHead-Workhttp://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=35670
08:41.08Lukianoh dear
08:41.15Lukianret t4 set bonuses are dreadful
08:41.24LukianI didn't read them properly when I was looking
08:41.41Lukianwell my t4 is defintely going for prot gear then :)
08:42.35Zicontosses a hairy egg at lukian
08:44.24JunkHead-WorkI want more info on the Dell mini-laptop.:\
08:46.49ZiconUgh, I have a sinking feeling my slipped disc is getting infected again.
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08:53.56JunkHead-WorkI want a beta key.:\
08:54.08ZiconI want to not be in pain.
08:54.28JunkHead-WorkI want you to not be in pain too.
08:55.42Lukiancuddles Zicon
08:55.58Lukianall better? :D
08:56.15ZiconNo. Try getting me a replacement spine.
08:57.35JunkHead-Workhmm...
08:58.45Lukianlike the x-files one?
08:58.48Lukian^_^
08:59.03LukianSuper-soldier Zicon :D
08:59.40ZiconSure, why not. I'm sure I could hide some impressive weaponry in my boobs.
08:59.53JunkHead-Workhmm...
09:01.51Poul|Raiderfeel the love
09:02.02Poul|Raiderall noobs gotten keys EU now, so server beeing all slow!
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09:37.11JunkHead-WorkSome guy in my guild got in the beta.
09:41.52ZiconI think several in mine got in.
09:42.09g0urraI got in. >:3
09:42.16ZiconNot sure about myself, as Billing are arseholes who refuse to change my email address, and my old email has vanished off the face of the earth.
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10:09.21LukianAnetheron: Infernals this week? yes/no
10:10.02g0urrayes
10:10.06g0urrathey hotfixed it
10:11.01g0urrawhat should I do when my monitor looks like this? http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/8740/dsc06684ml5.jpg
10:11.06Lukiancheers g0urra
10:11.49Lukiang0urra, check your cable? :p
10:11.52FinalXwell, what it says in the pic? :P
10:11.54Lukian(and try a different monitor XD)
10:12.01FinalXprobally your drivers got messed up
10:12.06FinalXprobably even
10:12.17g0urraLukian: I've tried it on two different monitors, same results
10:12.21g0urraand different cables
10:12.28Lukianhmm
10:12.32Lukiantry drivers then
10:12.37Lukianif not, new video card time? :D
10:12.58g0urraFinalX: I reset the drivers, didn't work. I uninstalled the drivers, which fixed it, but it got fucked up when I rebooted
10:13.48g0urraLukian: maybe, if I had any idea how to do anything on this PC. I got 0 hardware experience
10:14.27JunkHead-WorkLukian!
10:14.29JunkHead-WorkLook!
10:14.31JunkHead-Workhttp://cgi.ebay.com/VIN-DIESEL-SIGNED-8X10-AUTOGRAPH-PHOTO-REPRINT_W0QQitemZ370069550066QQihZ024QQcategoryZ104423QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
10:14.38JunkHead-WorkOnly $5.75!!
10:14.39Lukiang0urra, onboard and expansion video perhaps?
10:14.56g0urraonboard what?
10:14.56Lukiando you have two 'monitor' ports on the back of your case? :D
10:15.00g0urrayes
10:15.11Lukiantried the other one?
10:15.12g0urraINVIDIA Geforce 7600 GS
10:15.29g0urrawell actually there's only the graphic card's monitor ports, and they are two
10:15.32Lukianah
10:15.36Lukiannext to each other?
10:15.38g0urrayes
10:15.39Lukianthat won't help
10:17.05Lukianhmm driver issue eh
10:17.06Lukianwhich OS?
10:17.51g0urrawindows XP
10:18.06Lukiandid you update them recentlY/
10:18.11g0urrano
10:18.18Lukiank, try doing so :D
10:18.21FinalXLawfirm vs FinalX & wife: 0 - 1 \o/
10:19.09g0urraLukian: how?
10:19.18Lukianwww.nvidia.com 'download drvier'
10:19.22Lukiansorry in MH atm
10:20.40Lukianbanshee's don't fill my ragebar ><
10:20.46Lukian*taunts a 2nd one* :D
10:25.19pb_ee1wtf wowhead
10:25.21pb_ee1http://fr.wowhead.com/?spells=7.2
10:25.27pb_ee1"Sceau de piété"
10:25.37pb_ee1you put your mouse on it the tooltip is diplayed
10:25.39pb_ee1you click
10:25.43pb_ee1spell unknown xD
10:27.09JunkHead-Workah well.
10:33.38Lukianlmfao
10:33.43Lukianwipe on Anetheron at 3%
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10:33.57LukianI was cat dps and ended up tanking the last 15%
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10:40.26JunkHead-WorkI has heartburns.:(
10:40.37Lukianants JunkHead
10:40.49JunkHead-Workants?
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10:43.14JunkHead-WorkOh hey, I talked to that friend of mine today.
10:43.33JunkHead-WorkApparantly his GM got mad and said something to him today for working on his shaman.
10:44.10JunkHead-WorkLater he explained though that the reason he said something was that too many people were doing the same thing. And he is putting a stop to it.
10:44.42OlisonWhat?
10:44.52Lukianspending time on chars other than their main?
10:45.04Lukianand screwing with guild progress? :D
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10:45.40JunkHead-WorkAs far as I can tell, yes.
10:46.05JunkHead-WorkBut when I asked him if thatw as the issue he said that they always seem to be low on healers.
10:46.47JunkHead-WorkI mean, once the expansion came out, and my guild had  hit a wall in progression, A LOT of peopel made shaman.
10:46.57JunkHead-WorkYou'd log on and see 20 people, 12 were shaman.
10:47.11JunkHead-WorkSo I don't know.
10:47.25LukianLOL
10:47.49Lukianwe sometimes have 4-6 shamans in our raids XD
10:47.52Lukianbut only 2 today
10:48.00JunkHead-WorkI'm thinking that since the guild he is in is still on the lower end of raid progression, they might demand more from mains.
10:48.02LukianI never seem to have one in the kara runs I do though
10:48.55JunkHead-WorkI mean there are a couple of upgrades for him. Expensive to buy/make upgrades, but upgrades nonetheless.
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10:54.15Lukiani still have heavy clefthoof chest on in MH :D
10:54.45JunkHead-WorkI'm watching Dagon.
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11:16.17JunkHead-WorkI'm playing on this be.imba.hu site
11:17.25Lukianwhat'd dagon again?
11:22.26JunkHead-Worklovecraft movie about fish people
11:23.11Lukiannifty
11:30.47JuippisJunkHead-Work: alliance?
11:31.02JunkHead-Workyep.
11:31.11JuippisJunkHead-Work: I mean, when allies got shamans, _many_ people started a draenei shaman
11:31.17Juippisas well as many horde did BE paladin
11:31.37Juippisbefore TBC I only had alliance toons. It was fun to see how paladins carried a WSG flag with bubble on :-)
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12:11.16Lukianhey JunkHead
12:11.24LukianI had a priest ask me for the 23/38 spec before..
12:11.55Lukianpeople really should l2p their own class
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13:29.30Lukian_http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29506#created-by <- guys, wotlk is infecting your live data
13:29.42Lukian_we don't have spellpower in 2.x
13:31.01FinalXI don't see any spellpower there?
13:31.17g0urraI don't see spellpower either
13:31.33FinalXshows "Equip: Increases healing done by up to 77 and damage done by up to 26 for all magical spells and effects." here, you sure you didnt click wotlk first, then revisited the page?
13:32.03g0urrahttp://www.wowhead.com/?spell=18046
13:32.10Lukian_i'm sure
13:32.12g0urra"Increases spell power by 41."
13:32.18Lukian_it said spellpower just a second ago
13:33.12MoonWorkLukian, while i have no doubt that you truely believe it said that, it doesn't.
13:34.41Lukian_aye, currently it doesn't
13:34.44Lukian_but it did before :p
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13:37.04Lukian_lmao. ret paladins get a (non-reliable) hot
13:40.41MoonWorkLukian_, tell me more
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13:45.56Lukian_http://eps.id.au/images/spellpowerLOL.JPG
13:46.02Lukian_there, now die :P
13:46.04Lukian_^_^
13:48.16Lukian_offline for a sec
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13:53.38VirusHaxHi
14:02.36FinalXLukian_: dunno what you did to get that, but im not getting it :)
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14:23.23TarjinWhat is the realmlist for the EU Beta, anyone?
14:23.59g0urrarealmlist.beta.wow.com
14:24.49Tarjin...
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15:16.22FinalXw/ 56
15:16.25FinalXoeps
15:17.02g0urra22 minutes
15:17.13g0urrathen i has beta client
15:19.33FinalX:o
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15:28.34TarjinWow!
15:32.16TecnoBratI did Utgarde Keep last night
15:32.50JuippisTecnoBrat: you got your beta?
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15:33.02TecnoBratyessir
15:33.48TecnoBratI healed it with nothing but Holy Shock and when holy shock crit, I through around some instant Holy Lights
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15:35.28Erveyhola a todos
15:37.14Lukian_http://ace.pastey.net/92273 <- 70 warlock in kara
15:39.21Juippisheh
15:39.25Juippistell him to get merciless instead
15:39.43lprichI'll show you merciless
15:39.45Juippisoh but, did he mean the outlook of that scythe?
15:40.14Juippislprich: don't be so... vengeful!
15:40.34lprichJuippis: That was pretty... brutal.
15:41.30JuippisI knew I was going to lose this as I said my line :-)
15:41.31Juippisdamn
15:41.40lprichlol
15:41.43Juippisis the name of the s5 set anywhere available yet?
15:42.12Juippisnope, does not seem to be
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15:44.16TecnoBratJuippis, I doubt we will see s5 before wotlk
15:45.33WikwocketI thought blues confirmed that somewhere, s4 was the last before expansion
15:46.48JuippisTecnoBrat: me too
15:47.14TecnoBratWikwocket, makes sense
15:49.20lprichThere's an expansion coming out?
15:49.37lprich</feignshock>
15:56.02Juippishehe
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16:03.14Lukian_02:02:15 To <Tiadora:70>: fort when you can :)02:02:21 <Tiadora:70> whispers: huh?02:02:25 <Tiadora:70> whispers: what did you want??02:02:27 To <Tiadora:70>: fortitude..
16:03.15Lukian_wtf?
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16:19.22TecnoBratLukian, do you play a paladin?
16:19.36LukianTecnoBrat, yes
16:19.50TecnoBratYou will be interested in this
16:19.55Lukiana beta key? :D
16:20.02TecnoBratSo they changed our Seals + Judgements
16:20.11TecnoBratWe now have 3 judgement spells
16:20.18TecnoBratJoL JoW and JoJ
16:20.30TecnoBratexactly what you expect those to be :P
16:20.45g0urraJoLt?
16:21.02TecnoBratso how they work is like if you use SoR, and then use JoW, the judge causes the damage from judging SoR + a JoW debuff
16:21.36TecnoBratSo no more SoL + Judge + SoR, attack, Judge .. crap
16:21.48TecnoBratNow you just go SoR +JoL, attack :P
16:22.01TecnoBratAlso right now the judges aren't consuming the seal
16:22.57TecnoBratoh and right now SoR + JoJ is causing a 800 damage proc on every swing ... but I'm sure thats a bug ..
16:22.58TecnoBrathttp://img244.imageshack.us/img244/7824/wowscrnshot072208224002yq0.jpg
16:23.21Lukianyeah they've fucked up the modifiers
16:23.35Lukianbecause they've added +216 spelldmg + 10% sanct aura + other things
16:23.37Lukianto base spells
16:24.32LukianTecnoBrat, seal/judgement of command is hitting for 18-21k XD
16:24.38Lukianfrom 2 screenshots I saw ^_^
16:24.50TecnoBratWell, its not just that
16:24.58TecnoBratJoJ shouldn't cause a damage proc should it?
16:24.59TecnoBratlol
16:25.29Lukianthat's your seal of righteousness being judged
16:25.30Lukianhmm yeah
16:25.34TecnoBratno keep looking
16:25.35LukianI wonder if htat's intended
16:25.43TecnoBratthe 826 dmg hit every swing
16:25.44TecnoBratlol
16:26.03TecnoBratand I am NOT rejudging there
16:26.03Lukianoh lol
16:26.04Lukiannice
16:26.10TecnoBratthats all from the debuff being on the mob
16:33.53Lukianhttp://chuckg.org/dump/2008/loljoc.jpg
16:34.20Lukiananyway yeah, paladin is serious 'beta' atm
16:34.23Lukianwith all those changes
16:34.32Lukianhttp://chuckg.org/dump/2008/workingasintended.jpg
16:34.53selckincan always count on paladins being broken
16:34.56Wikwocketthose look like cool zones
16:34.57selckinits the 1 constant :)
16:35.07JuippisLukian: my holy paladin does the same amount of dmg in bgs ;-(
16:35.22Juippisthat's why the allies are so afraid of my crazy holy paladin dps
16:35.27JuippisI scare the kids!
16:35.40Juippis(to be honest, I be lucky to get a 500 crit with it :-D)
16:36.09Lukianyeah i've had holy pallies hit me for a decent amoutn in cat form
16:36.13LukianI'm like wait.. are you ret?
16:36.15Juippisanyway, shower -> beer garden
16:36.15LukianXD
16:37.26TecnoBratJuippis, you grow beer in a garden?
16:37.32TecnoBratI like your thoughts on this
16:37.41TecnoBratcan I subscribe to your newsletter?
16:39.04FinalXLukian: lol @ 21k crit
16:39.46LukianI'm waiting for more screenshots from this guy XD
16:41.33Lukianhttp://chuckg.org/dump/2008/boj.jpg <- that's a handy reminder XD
16:46.50TecnoBratWikwocket, http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=37313
16:48.28WikwocketTecnoBrat: That's odd, I would have imagined that in wotlk, since you "learn" your mounts almost as tradeskills or spells, that the crop would be an inscription-like item
16:48.46TecnoBratWikwocket, it is weird
16:48.51TecnoBratbut they haven't made that change yet
16:48.55TecnoBratand it doesn't work on spells
16:49.03TecnoBratso we will see what happens over the next couple weeks
16:49.09Wikwocketyeah
16:49.15Wikwocketplenty of time to iron it out
16:49.16TecnoBrat"that change" = the mount = spell change
16:49.23TecnoBratit still items currently
16:49.26WikwocketAh
16:49.37WikwocketCool, thanks for the info
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16:52.31TecnoBrathehe Lukian I have 1150 "Spell Power" on my paladin :)
16:52.59Lukianholy crap XD
16:53.10TecnoBrat@char us korgath barbanus
16:53.28[TecnoBot]Barbanus, Level 70 Human Male Paladin (42/19/0):  Resilience: 0.00; Health: 7327; Intellect: 543; Mana: 10818; Plus Healing: 1970; Holy Crit %: 19.34; Holy Damage: 791; MP5: 145.00;
16:53.28[TecnoBot]Buffs: Devotion Aura, Flying Machine
16:53.33TecnoBratstupid bot goes to sleep or something, lol
16:53.50TecnoBratso that current live
16:54.04TecnoBratso I gain like 350 spell damage
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16:59.55Lukianwell 212 is from crusader
17:00.03Lukianthe talents boost the rest?
17:00.12Lukianwhat's your stamina?
17:00.19Lukian(30% of that add up to the rest?)
17:00.55Lukianor is crusader directly modifed into the spells damage output?
17:04.19TecnoBratcrusader?
17:04.50TecnoBratwhich skill / talent are you talking
17:04.54TecnoBratI'm holy btw
17:09.29TecnoBratso we get on the boat
17:09.35TecnoBratand its like .. totally a disney world ride
17:09.40TecnoBratI wont say anything more
17:09.48TecnoBratbut I swear I was like in disneyworld
17:10.39Lukianjudgement of crusader (216 spelldmg) was integrated into the spells/class somewho
17:11.19selckinhave drums been nerfed?
17:12.27TecnoBratLukian, ohhhhh
17:12.30TecnoBratokay, no idea
17:12.46TecnoBratprobably by changing coefficients
17:12.48TecnoBratI would think
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17:13.09TecnoBratI wouldn't think a naked paladin would have 216 spell dmg
17:13.13TecnoBratbut I could be wrong
17:14.06WikwocketI'm sure naked warriors have X amounto f attack power
17:14.14MalgayneI thought it came from adding the talent
17:14.22Malgayne30% of your AP --> spell power
17:14.53TecnoBratMalgayne, maybe
17:15.00Malgaynehttp://wotlk.wowhead.com/?spell=53503
17:15.03Malgayne3 point talent
17:15.03TecnoBratMalgayne, you missed it
17:15.04TecnoBratBarbanus, Level 70 Human Male Paladin (42/19/0):  Resilience: 0.00; Health: 7327; Intellect: 543; Mana: 10818; Plus Healing: 1970; Holy Crit %: 19.34; Holy Damage: 791; MP5: 145.00;
17:15.11TecnoBratI have 1150 "Spell Power"
17:15.13TecnoBraton beta
17:15.23TecnoBratso I gained 350 spell power
17:16.13Lukianisn't it like 2.2 spelldmg per power?
17:16.21Lukianor is that healing amoutn?
17:16.30TecnoBratneither
17:16.38TecnoBratthey changed the coefficient for healing
17:16.49TecnoBratin your char sheet they both say the same amount
17:18.15Lukianoh
17:18.28Lukianwait what
17:19.00TecnoBratyou only have 1 stat now
17:19.06TecnoBrat"Spell Power"
17:19.12Lukianyeah I know that bit
17:19.32TecnoBratBut healing spells has like 3x the coefficient than damage spells
17:20.47TecnoBratbut Spell Power is the same as the old spell damage
17:20.48TecnoBrathttp://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=28770
17:20.52TecnoBrathttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=28770
17:21.16Lukianah
17:21.18Lukianinteresting
17:21.29LukianI wasn't aware it was identical to the old spell damage amount
17:21.51Lukianiirc I think healing is 2.8x the amount?
17:23.21Lukianmaybe 1.8 o.O
17:28.01TecnoBratsomething like that
17:28.16TecnoBratit will be close to whatever the X was before with the healing => spell dmg chnage
17:29.10Lukianoh right!
17:29.17Lukiannow that makes sense
17:29.32Wikwocketriught
17:29.34Lukianbecause spelldamage was 50%, but healing items with spelldamage were only 30%
17:31.00Lukianthat's a nice little dps boost to healers, eh? :)
17:32.08TecnoBrathttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=34199
17:32.18TecnoBrathttp://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=34199
17:32.20TecnoBratso thats why
17:32.38TecnoBratnotice how the +dmg is 167 on live, but 266 on wotlk
17:33.01selckini liked big numbers :(
17:33.26TecnoBratused to be that spelldmg was 33% of the healing value
17:33.35TecnoBratnow the spell damage is 53% of the healing value
17:33.55Lukianyes!
17:33.59TecnoBratthats where my extra 350 spell power came from
17:34.02Lukianhow awesome is that? :D
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17:42.36lprichso I would have over 1k spell damage then I guess.
17:43.17lprichbecause I was just over 2k healing.
17:43.22lprichbut then I quit.
17:43.51TecnoBratyes
17:44.03TecnoBratBarbanus, Plus Healing: 1970;
17:44.11TecnoBratso you will be close to the same as me
17:44.12Lukianhttp://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/wotlk/sandboxshots/dalaran/dalaran_05.jpg <- pretty fountain, but the real question is, CAN YOU STAND ON IT? :D
17:44.14TecnoBrat1150 or so
17:44.21lprichThat would make grinding bog lords in my healing gear much better.
17:44.42lprichI tell ya, resto shamans are not horrible at grinding bog lords
17:44.54TecnoBratoh you are a shaman?
17:44.58lprichaye
17:44.59TecnoBratyou will have less then, yea
17:45.01TecnoBratlike 1000
17:45.09TecnoBratbecause we have the int => spell dmg talent
17:45.37WikwocketWell everyone's numbers will be bigger at 80 ofc
17:47.58lprichTecnoBrat: shams do too
17:48.26lprichnatures blessing: increases spell damage and healing by 30% of int
17:48.37TecnoBratwait, what .. when?!
17:48.37TecnoBratlol
17:48.41JuippisI frickin' love Dalaran
17:48.43lprichsince like, forever
17:48.47Juippisbeen loving since Warcraft
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17:51.22Lukianlevel 70 bop blues in wrath exceed ilvl 100-115 epics
17:51.45Lukianlevel 75 bop blues exceed 141-146 gear (t6 quality)
17:52.07TecnoBratso BoP blues exceed kara
17:52.09TecnoBratnot suprising
17:52.36Lukianhttp://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=35575
17:52.51Lukian<PROTECTED>
17:53.07TecnoBratLW epic? :P
17:53.15TecnoBratseriously?
17:53.23TecnoBratTHATS a CRIME
17:53.34Lukianmy druid is still using that for dps
17:53.35TecnoBratthat LW epic should be able to take them to 80
17:53.42Lukianbecause I haven't hit 1.6k rating :p
17:55.06lprichWelcome to TBC round 2
17:55.22TecnoBratawww
17:55.26TecnoBratI don't think filters work!
17:55.27TecnoBrathttp://wotlk.wowhead.com/?items=4&filter=qu=3;minrl=71;maxrl=75
17:55.28TecnoBrat:(
17:55.30TecnoBratcries
17:55.36Lukiannot enough data yet
17:56.20TecnoBrathmmm
17:56.25TecnoBratthe requires level part is there
17:56.28TecnoBrathttp://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=35596
17:56.48TecnoBrathttp://wotlk.wowhead.com/?items=4&filter=qu=3;minle=130
17:56.48Lukianhttp://wotlk.wowhead.com/?items=2&filter=qu=3:4;sl=17;cr=32;crs=1;crv=100#0-9+1
17:56.51TecnoBratin the column too
17:56.52Lukian^ lmfao
17:57.01Lukiangoodbye all two handers, unless you have sunwell loot.
17:57.50LukianTroll Butcherer
17:57.51deltronnot much of my gear will be replaced for a long time
17:59.37Lukianhttp://wotlk.wowhead.com/?items=2&filter=qu=3:4;sl=21:22:13;cr=32;crs=1;crv=100#0-9-2+1
17:59.41lprichshit i'm not even in t5/t6 gear
17:59.44Lukiansunwell loot upgraded by 78 boe! :D
17:59.50TecnoBratLukian, http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?items=4.3&filter=sl=9;ub=7;preset=7.pve.resto
18:00.02lprichquest blues here i come, if I'm even playing.
18:01.04Lukianchuckles
18:01.31Lukianit's gonna suck to de all my epics and get back in blues
18:02.20TecnoBrathttp://wotlk.wowhead.com/?items=4.2&filter=sl=3;ub=11;preset=11.pve.resto
18:02.25deltronI don't see any upgrades for weapons for me so far
18:02.34Lukianlooks like only the season 4 gear will survive
18:02.37TecnoBratwhat weapons? what class?
18:02.45deltroni'm an enhancement shaman
18:02.49Lukianand some of the t6 quality loot
18:03.01deltronI'll have http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=34331 shortly
18:03.27deltronI have http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=34346 already
18:05.48TecnoBratnope, not many items yet
18:06.40deltronthere's no epics yet though
18:07.04Wikwockethow many epics did you get from levels 60-64? hehe
18:07.24LukianI got epic shards? :D
18:07.26deltronnone
18:07.34TecnoBrathttp://wotlk.wowhead.com/?items=4&filter=sl=1;ub=2;preset=2.pve.holy
18:07.36TecnoBratLOL
18:07.56deltronwow that's sad
18:08.22TecnoBrathttp://wotlk.wowhead.com/?items=4&filter=sl=7;ub=2;preset=2.pve.holy
18:08.41deltronWTF
18:08.43deltronhttp://wotlk.wowhead.com/?items=4&filter=sl=1;ub=7;preset=7.pve.enhance
18:08.49TecnoBrathttp://wotlk.wowhead.com/?items=4&filter=sl=5;ub=2;preset=2.pve.holy
18:08.51TecnoBratgogo greens!
18:09.15LukianI love how greens exceed poor-quality badge loot
18:09.20deltronah, it's the 43 expertise
18:09.29Lukianoh wow, s4 got owned
18:09.50WikwocketI for one embrace our new green overlords
18:10.25TecnoBratI'm going to post all items I replace on my paladin
18:10.37TecnoBratthat sounds like fun
18:11.33deltronI need to change those weighted stats methinks
18:12.50Lukianto weight purples higher?
18:12.54Lukianjust because they are purple? :p
18:16.19deltronnah, weights change usually on your level
18:16.35deltronso sunwell has blah, bt/hyjal has bluh
18:16.38deltronusually
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18:17.38TecnoBratdoes that mean SSC had bleh?
18:17.52deltronyeah
18:17.52deltron:D
18:18.56MalgayneI'm still not used to weighting haste rating
18:19.04MalgayneNot sure how to handle it vs. my other stats
18:20.25deltroni'm not sure how it works since haste is melee and spell now in wotlk
18:23.30Lukianaffects spell gcd's but not melee yeah?
18:27.02deltronhttp://gear-wishlist.appspot.com/
18:27.15deltronaffects attack speed
18:27.57TecnoBrat@armory us korgath barbanus
18:27.57[TecnoBot]Barbanus's profile: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Korgath&n=Barbanus
18:29.17TecnoBratMalgayne, have you played with the new judgements?
18:29.35MalgayneNot a whole lot
18:29.40Malgaynei've been messing with the death knight mostly
18:29.59TecnoBratahhh, well they are totally cool
18:40.31deltronwtb beta access
18:40.31deltronheh
18:42.19alaytonthat hollow geode helm looks pretty silly..
18:45.17deltronso stuff doesn't have +heal on it
18:45.22deltronhow's that spell power work out?
18:45.38alayton(that might be shamelessing pointing out the shiny 3d wotlk stuff..)
18:45.44alaytonwow. shamelessly
18:46.55deltronhehe
19:01.38Poul|Raiderstreaming the raid is not nice when wiping on felmyst :D
19:01.48deltroneh?
19:02.05Poul|Raiderlive streaming
19:04.00Lukianlol :)
19:04.15Lukianonly if you stream vent too XD
19:04.24Poul|Raiderwe not using vent anyway :D
19:04.26Lukian"THATS A 50 DKP MINUS"
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19:12.31TarjinI don't see enough dots
19:12.37TarjinI think.. hmm.... 1.. 2.. 3
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19:20.48g0urraI got Three of Rogues :o
19:24.10Lukianwotlk cards?
19:29.34Poul|Raiderhttp://www.borkedguild.net/article/wotlk+live+stream (lowest stream is mine)
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20:16.03TecnoBrathttp://www.tecnobrat.com/2008/7/23/wrath-of-the-lich-king-beta-first-impressions
20:16.17TecnoBratmy feelings on what part of wrath I saw last night
20:19.37deltronwow seals seem nice now
20:21.03TecnoBratYea, I really like the new mechanics
20:26.20deltronhttp://omnomnomnom.com/index.php
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21:02.37Poul|Raiderhttp://www.borkedguild.net/article/wotlk+live+stream muru now
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21:44.43malikeyeyou got a beta key TecnoBrat ?
21:45.30TecnoBratindeed.
21:46.14malikeyedid you get it cause of wowhead ?
21:47.12MalgayneNope
21:47.31TecnoBrat^^
21:47.50malikeyedid you get one Malgayne ?
21:48.03MalgayneYes, but just because i knew someone
21:48.12MalgayneThe official fansite beta keys haven't gone out yet
21:48.47malikeyeoh so they have keys set aside for sites
21:48.53malikeyeso y'all wasted yours ? :)
21:49.01MalgayneYeah, each official fansite gets a small allowance
21:49.10MalgayneWe're pulling to get some for a big giveaway
21:49.24malikeyehmm, didn't know there was one
21:51.26MalgayneWe're hoping
21:52.04TecnoBratthats usually like "phase 2"
21:52.24TecnoBratafter initial beta, when they want a bunch more people to retest level 70ish zones
21:52.42TecnoBratits their way of doing it instead of reseting 1743432 times
21:52.43malikeyepeople are actually paying money for them
21:52.44malikeyebleh
21:57.49TecnoBratNew wowhead feature idea
21:57.56TecnoBratwowhead achievements!
21:58.05deltronlol
21:58.05TecnoBrat"Post 100 comments with +10 rating or higher"
21:58.21TecnoBratsome other ideas are:
21:58.28TecnoBrat"Post 10 gold message spams in less than 2 minutes"
21:58.43TecnoBrat"Have 100 people swear at you"
21:59.25TarjinGet as many Minus-votes as possible :o
21:59.49TecnoBratrofl
21:59.57TecnoBrat"Create a comment with more than -100 rating!
22:00.14deltronI only have like 3 rated comment s:P
22:01.00deltronmy highest rated comment is +59
22:01.02deltron:P
22:01.22TecnoBrathttp://wotlk.wowhead.com/?user=tecnobrat
22:02.01deltronhttp://wotlk.wowhead.com/?user=tecnobrat#screenshots:id=80544
22:02.02deltronlolol
22:02.20deltronhttp://wotlk.wowhead.com/?user=diode
22:02.41TecnoBratdeltron, do you know what?
22:02.45TecnoBratThose are Miyaris
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22:02.56deltronyeah i guessed as much
22:03.36TecnoBratI should probably check the forums
22:03.43TecnoBratI haven't even LOOKED at it today
22:04.10deltron= gtfo
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22:21.34robotusch.. note to self, remember what IRC servers you are on
22:21.49robotuschwho do I poke when an ad has sound?
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22:24.04lprichI don't recall.
22:24.39MalgayneMe.
22:24.57lprich^^ Him.
22:24.59Malgaynehttp://www.wowhead.com/?forums&topic=142&p=1312
22:25.05robotuschyeah just going through that :P
22:25.27robotuschthe same website has 3 ads on the two wowhead tabs I have going
22:25.40MalgayneThat tends to happen
22:26.06robotuschtwo of those ads have a little field with a speaker, which you only have to strafe to activate (but subsequently click to shut off again) - but the third one is missing that field
22:26.09Malgayneour ad server tries to show the ads in order of how lucrative they are, so you frequently see the same ad several times in a row before you hit the limit the advertiser has set
22:28.59robotuschoh well, not a bad day so far lootwise, a dark whelpling + some useful recipes for my priest :D
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22:37.46Poul|RaiderMalgayne, care to share how wowhead store the items internal? like the information is stored in the WDB files?
22:39.10MalgayneI'm not actually a programmer myself, so I couldn't answer that question I'm afraid
22:40.41Poul|Raideroki :)
22:41.24TecnoBratPoul|Raider, in a mysql db :P
22:41.31Poul|Raiderye :)
22:41.53Poul|Raiderwas thinking of the actuly item table :)
22:42.12Poul|Raiderhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Itemcache.wdb
22:42.20Poul|Raiderif its stored like that
22:53.03TecnoBratits probably like that
22:53.07TecnoBratexcept more french
22:53.09TecnoBratright Skosiris?
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23:27.19Skosirishuh lol
23:30.04TecnoBratyou have drank a lot of beer haven't you?
23:30.15Skosirisa little
23:30.20TecnoBratI was saying your database schema was probably more french
23:31.16Skosiriswhat shcema
23:38.37Poul|Raider:)
23:38.55Poul|RaiderSkosiris, i was just asking if the shcema was like http://www.wowwiki.com/Itemcache.wdb
23:39.03Poul|Raideror how is the data stored?
23:39.35Skosirisit's similar
23:39.37Skosirisnods
23:41.13Poul|Raideroki :)
23:59.26Malgaynehttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=34680  vs  http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28516 for pally tanking
23:59.48Malgayne?

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