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00:19.18TecnoBrator ...
00:19.20TecnoBratgo to the options
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00:44.32Gary135791TecnoBrat: iirc that isn't an option?
00:44.47Gary135791might be, haven't played classic d2 in ages
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04:13.52TheOny1Dude.
04:14.03TheOny1The Defiant is in our channel, and it has voice.
04:14.13TheOnyxThis intrigues me.
04:14.27NCC-74656zomg, hai onyx!
04:14.37TheOnyxhaha
04:14.51TheOnyxI was just about to go to bed, but checked the channel for pending notices and saw the name
04:15.00TheOnyxI was all WTF DEFIANT
04:15.08TheOnyxWHERE ARE TEH JEM HADAR
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04:23.09Gnarfoz(as am I, because *I* recognize that this is Voyager, not Defiant.)
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05:20.35LukianIf I join a team at 1350 and my rating is 1500, does that mean at 1450 team rating i'll be 1600?
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06:06.02JunkHead-Workheadache.:(
06:14.10Gary135791It looks like you have a Google account. Would you like to link your YouTube and Google accounts?
06:14.15Gary135791Is youtube going to stop sucking :o ?
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06:57.24Gary1357915 boxing is so painfully slow
07:05.15JunkHead-WorkWhat classes?
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07:08.28emsy-at-workhow many classes are there u can multibox with?
07:08.49emsy-at-workthe only that comes to my mind is elem shammy
07:09.51JunkHead-Worki would think any caster
07:09.57JunkHead-Workdruod sounds good to me
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07:10.24JunkHead-Workhunter also possible
07:10.36JunkHead-Worklock maybe
07:10.53JunkHead-Workmages AOEing too
07:13.05Gary135791You can multibox pretty much any class tbh
07:13.10Gary135791but I'm doing classic ele sham atm
07:13.33JunkHead-WorkWouldn't it be better to do different classes?
07:13.40JunkHead-WorkAnd just link similar skills?
07:14.02Gary13579ele sham is fun, and can do pretty much anything end game
07:14.03JunkHead-Worklike, shaman lightning bolt with.. lock shadow bolt... and mage frostbolt?
07:14.29JunkHead-WorkYeah but why have multiples of the same class at the end?
07:14.29Gary13579http://youtube.com/watch?v=j8uLUBEPB-U
07:14.57Gary13579mages wouldn't be able to do things like that :P
07:15.12JunkHead-WorkYeah but having 5 shaman seems like a waste.
07:15.31Gary13579well I don't plan on playing them seperately
07:15.40JunkHead-Workah well.
07:16.09JunkHead-WorkI cans ee multiboxing to lvl characters faster as beneficial, but I just don't see it the same as others.
07:16.25Gary13579plus theres http://youtube.com/watch?v=g5brtLZbXYE&feature=related
07:16.26JunkHead-Work5 of a class doing an instance or bg's is a novelty to me.:\
07:16.41JunkHead-WorkYeah I've seen those before
07:23.49Gary13579it's just so annoying leveling
07:24.21Gary13579"Get 8 Prairie Alpha Teeth", 30% droprate, and I need 40 of em
07:24.37Gary13579plus the xp penalty for being in a group of 5 is just retarded
07:25.14JunkHead-WorkQuestion.
07:25.28JunkHead-WorkFor a collection quest like that, you need 5 mice to pick up items?
07:25.55Gary13579I use one mouse with 5 windows on the same PC
07:26.10JunkHead-WorkHow does it determine who picks up loot?
07:26.15JunkHead-Worknm
07:26.21JunkHead-Workjust thought about that.
07:29.24Gary13579eww, actually used imageshack and it cut my image size in half
07:30.50Gary13579xs.to, my usual image host, is down :/
07:31.42ecstasiagotta love the wonders of putting together a kara group on a monday night
07:31.46ecstasiaand still manage a 3 hour clear
07:32.16ecstasiatoo bad just about everything got DE'd
07:32.50ecstasiaended up with 21 voids
07:34.08Gary13579are there no good image hosting sites that don't require registration :/ ?
07:34.18ecstasiauh no
07:34.28ecstasiathey'd probably end up full of kiddie porn
07:34.37Gary13579xs.to does, but it's down
07:34.41Gary13579seems tinypic does it too, yay.
07:34.45Gary13579JunkHead-Work: http://i25.tinypic.com/2ugm0xl.png
07:35.06Gary13579I need a second monitor, bad lol
07:35.40JunkHead-Workodd looking
07:36.16Gary13579ran using maximizer (resizes window, but allows you to keep whatever resolution you want, without Windows bars around it)
07:37.00Gary13579and keyclone of course, it passes all keys pressed from one window to the others
07:37.46JunkHead-WorkI'd like to dual box.
07:37.53JunkHead-WorkBut I'd like two different classes.
07:38.08JunkHead-Workshaman and druid perhaps.
07:38.30Gary13579UI is horribly screwed up since it's meant to be ran at 1280x1024
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07:44.30JunkHead-WorkI found some stuff on dual boxing with 2 pc's.
07:44.36JunkHead-WorkThis is what I would prefer.
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08:14.24LukianGary13579, gammatester.com
08:14.45Lukianhttp://images.gammatester.com/ *
08:14.58Gary13579thanks, will save in case xs.to is down :p
08:15.29Lukianit's faster than xs.to usually
08:15.32Gary13579JunkHead-Work: Yeah, a lot of people do dual box, pretty much the same concept, just less accounts :P
08:15.39LukianI've had a lot of people in here bitch at me for using xs
08:15.44JunkHead-Workyeah i can't swing more than 2 now.
08:15.48JunkHead-Worknot worth it to me
08:16.26Gary13579well depending on how things go I may be buying a colo slot, so hopefully I won't need it for long
08:16.39JunkHead-Work?
08:17.27LukianGary13579, interesting :D
08:17.35JunkHead-WorkMy idea though would be setting up a ele shaman and balance druid
08:17.53Gary13579JunkHead-Work: Was talking to Lukian :P
08:17.56JunkHead-Worklightning bolt/wrath and shocks/moonspam
08:17.59JunkHead-Workah ok
08:18.07JunkHead-Workbut how you think that combo would work?
08:19.17Gary13579Should work fairly well, at higher levels ToW + moonkin aura would be nice
08:23.41Gary13579you have a paladin, or a mage JunkHead-Work?
08:24.13JunkHead-Worki have both
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08:24.43Gary13579you might just want to power level, then
08:24.45Gary13579http://armorylite.com/us/echo+isles/Bloomkin
08:24.51Gary13579Check out gear/rep/skills
08:25.09Gary13579level 55 in under 3 days played, made about 9k gold so far doing it
08:25.58Gary13579If you have friends that need runs through VC/SM/strat, you can do it even faster (more lower levels = higher XP)
08:26.43JunkHead-Workhow'd you make 9k though?
08:26.49JunkHead-Worki don't get that part.
08:26.55Gary13579Stratholme :)
08:27.03Gary13579The place is insane, I farm it even when not power leveling
08:27.18JunkHead-Worki've never been there a lot.
08:27.40Gary13579You alliance or horde?
08:27.44JunkHead-Workalliance
08:27.52JunkHead-Workwhat makes it so profitable?
08:28.09Gary13579Quest till 15, VC till 20, stocks till 25, sm till 45, strat till 58-60
08:28.39Gary13579Vendor junk, runecloth, greens, TONS of blues (I've gotten so many boe blues I lost count, along with 10+ world epic drops)
08:29.04JunkHead-Workso... you're sayin strat from 45-60??
08:29.22Gary13579Most important are the greens and runecloth, I send it to a tailor/enchanter, make Runecloth Belts, disenchant them, hopefully get Greater Eternal Essences
08:29.36Gary13579GEEs = 30g each on my realm, and I get roughly 10 a run after making runecloth belts
08:29.49Gary13579depending on luck of course
08:30.10JunkHead-WorkHmm... not bad at all.
08:30.17JunkHead-WorkWhat did you use to power lvl that character?
08:30.25JunkHead-Workwhat other clasS?
08:30.33Gary13579paladin
08:30.37JunkHead-Workprot?
08:30.49Gary13579http://armorylite.com/us/echo+isles/Hearthstone
08:30.53Gary13579badly geared paladin :P
08:31.03Gary13579only things that matter are shield and trinket
08:31.41JunkHead-Workwell, my paladin is holy.
08:31.52JunkHead-Workmy mage would be awesome but she'd die too fast to be effective.
08:32.14Gary13579What I USED to do, but was nerfed because of athene
08:32.27Gary13579is run paladin/mage/lowbie x3
08:32.56JunkHead-Workyeah I've heard of that trick
08:33.08Gary13579mage drops group, paladin pulls the instance to entrance, aoes them down to 10%, runs outside, lowbies LoS casters, mage burns em down
08:33.14Gary13579low toons get full xp
08:33.54Gary13579I didn't use his outlands exploit, I just quested with at t6 lock following me killing everything lol
08:34.18JunkHead-Worki didn't know about an outland exploit.
08:34.25JunkHead-WorkI just knew of the pally/mage one
08:34.40Gary13579stuff dies pretty fast when it's being crit for 6k :p
08:34.49JunkHead-Workmake sense
08:34.55Gary13579the outlands one started at 55 iirc, he went to slave pens, group of 3
08:35.26Gary13579lowbie drops group and tags the mob, paladin taunts while mage kills it
08:35.39Gary13579lowbie still gets full xp because the mob is green to both the pala/mage
08:36.42JunkHead-Workah ok.
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08:36.47JunkHead-Worksame thing basically.
08:36.52Gary13579I don't think that was patched though
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09:31.58JunkHead-Work!
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09:47.22JunkHead-WorkAh holy teh shit!
09:47.23JunkHead-Workhttp://news.bigdownload.com/2008/06/30/huxley-enters-open-beta/
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10:22.49kuinkalaO HAI
10:30.28JunkHead-WorkHARRO
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11:11.28thunderchldhttp://www.wowbash.com/image-4120.html
11:20.49Lukiantickles thunderchld
11:20.59thunderchldhehehe that tickles
11:30.20LukianI think I'm the 15th best geared feral dps on my realm ^_^
11:31.00afkafkaif you're using armorylite...?
11:31.06Lukianyeah
11:31.15afkafkait only lists toons that have been searched
11:31.22Lukiani know
11:31.34Lukianbut who in their right mind doesn't use it at least once? :p
11:31.43afkafkahehe
11:33.06LukianThis guy is the best:
11:33.14Lukianhttp://armorylite.com/us/jubei'thos/alski/a
11:33.18LukianI love his arena team names too
11:34.31JunkHead-Workhttp://www.tankspot.com/forums/general-discussion/38104-what-point-do-you-stop-giving-advice.html#post84340
11:34.39JunkHead-WorkComment?
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11:36.05thunderchldThis is going to replace my WoW Obsession
11:36.07thunderchldhttp://www.lanceandeskimo.com/flash/quest.html
11:37.03LukianJunkHead, lol
11:37.58JunkHead-WorkLukian - if you're a member, please reply.
11:38.07JunkHead-WorkIf not, I'd still like your opinion.
11:38.26LukianHe a) didn't want to farm the bg marks
11:38.31Lukianor b) bought the wrong ones
11:38.49Lukianc) maybe he wanted them for pvp? did he get a set bonuses?
11:38.55JunkHead-WorkThere is no B.
11:39.04JunkHead-Workdifferent vendor remember.
11:39.42JunkHead-WorkThere is no C. DPS period. and no set bonuses.
11:39.59JunkHead-WorkBut what is your opinion on the topic as a whole?
11:40.04JunkHead-WorkGiving advice to people?
11:42.20afkafkahas a hard time believing the s2 bracers would be better than the 35 badge bracers, for pve.
11:43.28JunkHead-WorkI have a hard time believing buying s2 bracers for 25 badges is better than farming BG's for S3 badges.
11:43.45JunkHead-WorkS3 bracers*
11:44.18Lukiandpends on the bg
11:44.24Lukianone kara could be faster :p
11:44.46JunkHead-WorkHe doesn't do kara much.
11:45.01JunkHead-WorkThat's just an example anyway.
11:45.59JunkHead-WorkBasically it boils down to this. At what point is it pointless to give advice to someone who has in the past ignored good solid advice?
11:46.43Lukianimmediately :p
11:46.47Lukianif you don't need him ^_^
11:46.53Lukiansee how far he gets without you :D
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11:47.07JunkHead-WorkAs I said... He does BG's more than anything.
11:47.15Nuroohello to all fuckers :D
11:47.16JunkHead-WorkAnd complains constantly about losing.
11:47.33Nuroohello Junk :P
11:47.34Lukian<PROTECTED>
11:47.36JunkHead-WorkMorning
11:47.49JunkHead-WorkLukian - Friend of mine online. Even has access to my private vent server
11:47.50Nurooare u at work ?
11:47.54JunkHead-Workyeah
11:48.00LukianJunkHead-Work, hehe
11:48.08Nuroowhat is ur work i mean what u do ?
11:48.11LukianShower time for me
11:48.20JunkHead-WorkPolice Dispatcher/911 Operator.
11:48.29NurooOMG that is soo
11:48.30LukianJunkHead has a leet job :)
11:48.31Nurooboring
11:48.33Nuroo:D
11:48.38JunkHead-WorkWant anotehr example Lukian?
11:48.43Lukiansure
11:48.54JunkHead-WorkAnother friend of mine.
11:49.00JunkHead-WorkHe has.... 5 lvl 70's.
11:49.02Lukianshowering soon though, so I might mull over a longer/later reply :)
11:49.07LukianI almost do! :D
11:49.10JunkHead-Workmage, hunter, shaman, rogue, warlock
11:49.17JunkHead-WorkSham is enhancement.
11:49.18Nurooon Blizz?
11:49.20JunkHead-Workyes.
11:49.23Lukianof course
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11:49.26NurooOMG
11:49.34JunkHead-WorkNotice he has no healers or tanks.
11:49.34Nuroogive me one char :D
11:49.37JunkHead-WorkStraight dps.
11:49.48JunkHead-WorkHe is working on a prot warrior though and is 65 now I think.
11:49.52JunkHead-WorkOk so...
11:49.52LukianI only have 'tanks' :p (note loosely) :D
11:50.03JunkHead-WorkHe has been noticing lately how hard it is to find groups.
11:50.09JunkHead-WorkAnd by groups... I eman tanks and healers.
11:50.12JunkHead-Workmean*
11:50.20Lukianhe is the tank..
11:50.24JunkHead-WorkSo i told him one time, to respec his shaman to resto.
11:50.32JunkHead-WorkI'll get to that in a minute.
11:50.49JunkHead-WorkHe refuses to respec resto because healing is "blah" <-- his own words.
11:50.49Lukianthat's how I'm planning on levelling my shaman, it's going to buddy buddy with a DK or two
11:51.06NurooPolice can i spek to JunkHead i'm going to kill my self tell him to come to save me :D
11:51.17JunkHead-WorkOk but today, he asked me if I'd tank the daily. Heroic SV. he found a pally who'd heal it.
11:51.29JunkHead-WorkI agreed and he did not do well.
11:51.48JunkHead-WorkWas not timely on sheeps and was last in DPS. (But above me on the meter.)
11:52.19Lukianabove the tank is a good start..
11:52.26Lukianunless you are prot warrior :p
11:52.36JunkHead-Worksorry phone.
11:52.38JunkHead-Workanyway
11:52.47JunkHead-Work<--w arior.:P
11:52.50JunkHead-WorkAnyway...
11:52.57JunkHead-WorkHe tells me he respecced his shaman!!!!!!
11:52.59Nurooto be a dps is good "heal is boring" and tanck is stupid
11:53.03JunkHead-WorkI was like O.O
11:53.22JunkHead-WorkHe respecced to 0/40/21 enhancement/resto
11:53.33Lukian... lol
11:53.35Nurooyeah LoL best talents
11:53.40JunkHead-WorkI was confused by this and asked why (I'm not a shaman expert)
11:53.55JunkHead-WorkHe said so he could dps or heal.
11:54.01JunkHead-WorkHe also mentioend working on healing gear.
11:54.09JunkHead-WorkOk so...
11:54.13LukianYou can heal normals with those specs
11:54.15Lukianbut not heroics
11:54.20JunkHead-WorkExactly.
11:54.26JunkHead-WorkAnd your dps is lack.
11:54.57kuinkalaMmmh
11:54.57JunkHead-Workso you go from "probably decent dps, not much healing" to "mediocre dps, some healing"
11:55.03kuinkalaIt's too fucking warm
11:55.11kuinkalaOver +30'C in sun
11:55.32JunkHead-WorkAnd keep in mind I had mentioend resto before. And he shunned it.
11:55.52JunkHead-WorkBut is now willing to do it... only.... not much apparantly.
11:55.59Nurooohh.. soo hot my bals are.... :D
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11:57.45NurooJunk ppl calling :D ?
11:57.49JunkHead-Workyeah
11:57.50Lukianlol my ex just asked me if I have facebook
11:57.54Lukian*adds her*
11:58.00Nuroowhat are they saying
11:58.24JunkHead-Workbeing annoying
11:58.24Lukianlol she has like her boyfriends in 40% of her photos
11:58.30Nuroo-_-
11:58.33Nuroofuck the ppl :D
11:58.39JunkHead-WorkLukian - Anyway, you see how that example goes to?
11:58.49JunkHead-WorkAlthough that one is about playstyle.
11:58.53LukianJunkHead, aye :/
11:58.55JunkHead-WorkNot a great example but might count.
11:59.07JunkHead-WorkI can't tell someone to play a certain way.
11:59.08LukianJunkHead, hopefully they'll overcome the idiocy or gain gear for a specific use
11:59.11Nuroobut like i say all the time it's better when it have more job
11:59.15Lukianand then spec properly
11:59.18JunkHead-WorkBut it still does kinda fall into the advice category.
11:59.38LukianMy pally was 20-25/35-41/0 for a while
12:00.06Lukianmy druid healed pre-bc content with only 18 in resto :p (but there wasn't much +heal back then)
12:00.11JunkHead-WorkWell, I have noticed somethign over time.
12:00.21JunkHead-WorkAnd my friend whom recently quit playing noticed it too.
12:00.48JunkHead-WorkWe have firends who play wow with us. Roughly a circle of about.... I dunno. 10 people at most. never that many at once though.
12:00.56JunkHead-WorkMore like 3-5 people.
12:01.20JunkHead-WorkWe all enjoy doing things together, hanging out on vent and doing instances.
12:01.50JunkHead-WorkMy closest friend and I noticed a long time ago that her and I were the only ones who lead stuff.
12:02.13JunkHead-WorkIf someone wanted to do an instance, but we couldn't go, or didn't want to go... it didn't happen.
12:03.11JunkHead-WorkIt's like we were/are looked up to for helping people. We don't mind helping. We find it fun. But sometimes we would refuse just to try to get others to help themselves.
12:03.30JunkHead-WorkIt never panned out very well though.
12:03.55JunkHead-WorkThis just adds to the whole confusion of giving advice to people who don't seem to pay any attention to it.
12:04.31NurooJunk what is the name of ur char and the name of ur srvr i wanna see u
12:05.03LukianJunkHead-Work, yeah I'm trying to ween my housemate's dependency off me
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12:05.23LukianI find groups by using /who priest 70 and spamming everyone in viable zones with "Heal for x?"
12:05.33Lukianand it gets taxing being the only one doing it :p
12:05.36Lukian(but it works well!)
12:05.45JunkHead-Workdude... I got whispered today.
12:05.50JunkHead-Work"what spec are you?"
12:05.53JunkHead-Work"prot"
12:05.57JunkHead-Work(no answer)
12:06.03JunkHead-Work"did you ened something"
12:06.11JunkHead-Work"nah thought we needed a tank sorry."
12:06.16JunkHead-WorkI was fuckign stunned...
12:06.16Lukianlol :D
12:06.23NurooJuuunk  what is the name of ur char and srevr?
12:06.28JunkHead-Workhold on
12:06.31Nurooserver*
12:06.31Lukianoh JunkHead that reminds me
12:06.41LukianI've had *several* people join group
12:06.50Lukianand ask who the healer / tank is
12:06.56Lukianmore so than usual
12:06.56JunkHead-Workhahaha
12:06.58JunkHead-Worksame
12:07.00LukianIt's like.. wtf?
12:07.04JunkHead-Workhttp://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Stormrage&n=Sickman
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12:07.07LukianLook at their HP, and their class.
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12:07.23JunkHead-WorkOh, funny addition to the above whisper....
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12:07.32JunkHead-WorkI got whispered by the same guy about 5 minutes later.
12:07.40JunkHead-WorkAsking me to tank Heroic SP.
12:07.42JunkHead-WorkI said sure.
12:08.07JunkHead-WorkWas on vent with the bracers friend at the time and I said "hey i'm in sp with a guildie of yours!"
12:08.22JunkHead-Workand he said "yeah he just asked me if I'd tank h SP but i told him I was dps."
12:08.24Nuroonice char...
12:08.39JunkHead-WorkIt gave me a ehadache just trying to figure out what the hell had happened.
12:09.15JunkHead-Workthey needed dps..... then they needed a tank... but somewhere in there they turned down a dps warrior...
12:09.19NurooJunk Arms Warrs are cooler
12:09.37LukianJunkHead-Work, haha
12:09.55LukianNuroo, no group utility :p
12:10.05Nuroo:D
12:10.20Lukianblood frenzy (and trinketed battleshout) warriors give my druid 125dps ^_^
12:10.25JunkHead-WorkArms warriors are for PvP, not so much PvE... but they do ok depending.
12:10.38JunkHead-WorkFury warriors rock if they're good.
12:10.50Nurooyeah but ur not good :D D:
12:10.51Nuroo:D
12:11.34NurooJunk u know the name "Swifty" ?
12:11.43JunkHead-WorkWhat gets me though is people who run a dps spec as opposed to tanking or healing spec, but then complain about not being able to find groups.
12:11.48JunkHead-WorkNo idea.
12:11.59Nuroou don't know swifty OMG
12:12.08LukianJunkHead, I do occasionally complain on my alts
12:12.17Lukianbuts that's because I've been tanking for months on my two mains
12:12.41LukianThankfully my housemate is feral now, there's an abundance of healers atm
12:13.42NurooJunk just try to start the movie http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=60205
12:13.59Lukiank showering, back in bit :)
12:14.33NurooJunk u here?
12:14.37JunkHead-Workyes busy
12:14.40JunkHead-Workgimme a sec
12:14.46Nuroohttp://www.warcraftmovies.com/stream.php?id=60205&stream=Filefront  <- try that
12:15.54JunkHead-WorkIsn't that mostly pvp stuff?
12:16.12Nurooyeah but he is the BEST!!
12:16.27JunkHead-WorkI'm not very big on PvP.:\
12:16.49Nuroojust watch
12:16.59JunkHead-Workcan't now
12:17.42Nurookey
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12:21.49JunkHead-WorkUrgh I don't feel like doing errands today.
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12:23.41NurooJunk... wtf ppl say when they call ?
12:24.10JunkHead-WorkNothing important now.
12:24.15JunkHead-WorkIt's been quite for now.
12:24.54Nurooif some one say that he is going to kill himself what are u doing ?
12:25.18JunkHead-WorkIt's not a simple answer.
12:25.29JunkHead-WorkI have to do alot for different types of calls.
12:25.34Nurooare u screaming ?
12:25.34Nuroo:D
12:25.39JunkHead-WorkNo...
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12:25.43JunkHead-WorkWhy would I scream?
12:25.55Nuroodunno to tell the police to go there :D
12:26.12JunkHead-WorkDon't have to scream.:P They can hear me fine over the radio.
12:26.21Nurooaaa...
12:26.21Nuroo:D
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12:33.38Lukianhands JunkHead 'quiet'
12:33.53JunkHead-Work!
12:33.59Lukian:D
12:34.13LukianAny further insights into wow stupidity? :D
12:34.17JunkHead-WorkSo ready to get home.:\
12:34.23JunkHead-WorkHmm...
12:34.34JunkHead-WorkWere you in here when I was talking about the BOE Epic ninja?
12:34.38Lukianhttp://ace.pastey.net/90127-14cd <- here's a good one
12:34.39Lukianyeah
12:34.47JunkHead-WorkWere you in here when i said how we got it back?
12:34.54Lukianoh you got it back?
12:34.56Lukiannice
12:35.00JunkHead-Workyeah
12:35.10JunkHead-WorkAfter we got done, the guy got back online and whispered us.
12:35.16JunkHead-WorkHis brother was playing and ninja'd it
12:35.33LukianROFL
12:35.40JunkHead-WorkWe all reformed the group and he let us reroll and he did not roll.
12:35.47JunkHead-WorkThe paladin healer won the roll.
12:35.52JunkHead-WorkMet the guy inS W and got the item.
12:36.01JunkHead-WorkHe was very ncie about it and apologized.
12:38.37Nuroohttp://www.kefche.com/game/4whgdzdb108b/ <- haha best game :D
12:39.17LukianJunkHead, nice to see people who care about their character's 'reputation'
12:39.34JunkHead-WorkYeah.
12:39.36Lukianon that note, I've seen people need roll on the boe epic healing weapon a couple times
12:39.41TraeI don't see why people are bitching about the potential revive (out of combat res) for Druids.   I mean  Shammies have a "battle res"  [Ankh]  and a normal res too.
12:39.42Lukianbut they've always equipped it immediately
12:40.13JunkHead-Worklukian yeah but this was a spell damage weapon, and a rogue.
12:40.23JunkHead-Workwho rolled need, left group. and logged out immediately.
12:40.27Lukianindeed XD
12:40.30JunkHead-WorkIt was pretty obvious.
12:40.46Nurooyeah
12:40.57LukianTrae, the only issue is it gives spriests/shamans less utility when there's a druid healing the instance
12:41.14Lukianbut I don't see why anyone would complain about having to res less people..
12:41.39LukianJunkHead, what'd you think of my pastey? XD
12:41.41Nurooamm.. on the srvr that i play there was a ninja he rolled all the time for paladin items and he was Pieast i tell him to my frd and Admin and he get IP banned ;d
12:41.45TraeLukian, yeah I can't even see that argument.   it doesn't take away utility from another class it gives it to one seriously lacking.
12:41.49JunkHead-Worklooking now
12:42.34LukianNuroo, because the ops aren't doing their jobs I'm going to suggest you read the rules and keep the private server talk to a minimum
12:43.08JunkHead-Workhmm....
12:43.41JunkHead-Workodd conversation coming from a resto shaman.
12:44.11Lukianthey have a hunter main, and questioned my use of survival
12:44.15Lukian:/
12:44.31Lukian(in kara, I was 2nd on dps)
12:44.42JunkHead-WorkI remember that conversation.
12:44.46TraeSurv is a nice tree
12:44.51Lukian(impossible to beat a 1.4k dps warlock in there, but I could have had 200dps higher with bm spec)
12:45.01Lukianbut survival has very nice 5man and pvp utility
12:45.17JunkHead-WorkThe shaman i was talking about earlier, who refused to go resto...
12:45.20Lukianand if you are buffing 4 physical damage dealers, it's perfectly viable
12:45.40JunkHead-Workhe has a mage who until recently was full fire. and had never even dreamed of putting points into arcane.
12:45.46Lukian(that's also assuming my pet stayed alive XD)
12:45.58JunkHead-WorkOnce he finally did, he noticed an increase in dps.
12:46.02LukianLOL
12:46.17JunkHead-WorkAnd by full fire... i mean 61 points.
12:46.21Lukian:/
12:46.23Lukianis there any spellhit in mage trees?
12:46.33JunkHead-Work3% ni frost tree tier 1.
12:46.44JunkHead-Work10% in arcane tier 2 but only for arcane
12:46.52JunkHead-Workan arcane mage needs very little hit to be capped.
12:47.00JunkHead-Workfire/frost mages still need a decent bit.
12:47.09NurooFrost mage is the best
12:47.17JunkHead-Workdepends on situation.
12:47.39JunkHead-WorkFor 5 man instances, it doesn't matter. for pvp, a frost has better survivability.
12:47.49JunkHead-WorkRaid DPS, a fire mage will usually come out on top.
12:48.13JunkHead-WorkArcane at one point would top meters also, but it's just too fun to give up to me.
12:48.21JunkHead-WorkMass AOE damage is fun.
12:48.44LukianI have trouble clawing my way through frost mages in arena :(
12:49.05JunkHead-WorkWhen AE pops everythign around you for 600 on hits and over 1k on crits... it adds up.:P
12:49.18TraeLukian, I'm excited about the trees for Hunters
12:49.25TraeLukian, hunter pets
12:49.28Lukianwarlocks are sad like that too junkhead
12:49.35JunkHead-WorkYup.
12:49.40Lukianif you are able to use soc at fresh 70 gear, you DOUBLE your dps
12:49.48Lukian~744dps vs 350dps
12:49.59JunkHead-WorkOk next shift comign in soon. logging off irc. seeya
12:50.15LukianI'm off to bed, chat to you later!
12:51.04TraeLukian, I really hope (and I think people will laugh at me)  that it one day becomes viable to have a hunter's pet act as a MT.  Maybe have a TP in Beastmaster that allows you to activate a CD that allows your pet to grab all aggro... maybe a challenging roar or something.
12:51.18Traebut when that's active your DPS goes to next to nothing
12:51.21Trae(the hunters does)
12:51.25Traemaybe make it a channel
12:51.48LukianTrae, pets have trees in wrath if you didn't read
12:52.09LukianIt'd be great to see a specced / trained pet to be able to tank something like Pandemoneus
12:52.11TraeLukian, heh you didn't read what I said.  (which is exactly what you said)_
12:52.20Lukian(which all undergeared tanks have issue with)
12:52.48Traepersonally I don't see a problem with the ability of another tank class
12:52.49LukianTrae, oh right, I missed your first two lines :D
12:53.02LukianI think shamans should be able to tank too
12:53.22TraeI think that while the pet is tanking...    the Hunters DPS should drop drastically though
12:53.22Lukianand on that note, I mean a talent/buff which undoes their dual-wield threat reduction
12:53.46Lukianie. a ret paladin is a perfectly viable 5man tank with RF up
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12:54.17TraeLukian, but Hunters would still be OP cause they can run around with all that utility while their pet tanks.  lol
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12:54.32Trae(wouldn't bother me any)
12:54.50LukianTrae, I'm hoping to see bleeds (offers druids more utlity) and diseases on pets (dk utility)
12:54.58Lukians/on/from/
12:55.16Traeheh I had the infobot sed
12:55.22Traes/had/hate/
12:55.25Traelol
12:55.51LukianIt's gotta get it's rank up in the channel some how!
12:56.05LukianTrae, do you forsee pets bleeding and inflicting disease?
12:56.25TraeLukian, but yeah... I'm with you on pets tanking... my only complaint is the lack of a way to level pets once you reach Level Cap.
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12:56.50Lukianagreed, my wind serpent is still like 64 :/
12:56.54TraeI think @ 60 all hunters should get a "Master Tamer" ability
12:57.10Traeerr
12:57.11Lukianheh, that's not a bad idea
12:57.12Traemaybe @ 70
12:57.18JoltYo
12:57.23Trae(and up it to 80 @ LK)
12:57.33LukianJolt, will pets bleed and inflict disease in wrath? :D
12:57.35JoltHmh need to borrow cash so i can buy Badge of Tenacity for my pretty druid
12:57.45JoltLukian: no idea m8!
12:57.49Lukianwhat do you think!
12:57.53Traeand with the Master Tamer, you are allowed to go and tame any pet... and it gains xp at like... some beyond insane amount.
12:57.54JoltLukian: i have no pet class
12:58.01Jolthm i hope not :p
12:58.02Trae(effectively giving you a level per kill)
12:58.11JoltWill be harder to tank Leo then
12:58.19LukianTrae, it should tame it and convert it to 70, but you need to faction with it
12:58.23TraeLukian, don't know about disease and bleeds but yeah
12:58.51TraeLukian, 1 level per kill wouldn't be too bad.   L10 pet you'd only need 60 kills to get it to 70
12:58.56TraeLukian, that's not a bad grind really
12:59.03Lukianalthough instant 70 pets kinda undoes the rarity of a few
12:59.33TraeLukian, just get yourself a mage and do some aoe pulls to level pet
12:59.34TraeLukian, ;)
12:59.43afkafkafinally saw a ghost wolf pet
13:00.14afkafkathat's probably not the name of it... the one that took heroism and stacking spell haste to get, and then they removed the mob
13:00.23Lukianspirit wolf
13:00.24TraeLukian, another gripe is...  Cat's shouldn't be the only pet you get if you want serious DPS from your pet.
13:00.30afkafkathat's the one. Looks damn cool.
13:00.33LukianTrae, they aren't
13:00.40Lukianwindserpents and ravagers beat them
13:00.44TraeLukian, any pet should be able to be specced to be all out DPS (like I hope the new wrath trees will do)
13:00.58TraeLukian, yeah but ravager has low armor
13:00.59LukianOH
13:01.05TraeLukian, and go down like 2 dollar ho's
13:01.09LukianSo my boar can be dps instead of tanking? XD
13:01.19TraeLukian, yah... wouldn't that rock? ;)
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13:01.24Lukianindeed!
13:01.31TraeLukian, but allow you to spec any pet with charge too ;)
13:01.32Lukianbut mostly... I jsut want my fucking pet
13:01.35Lukianto hold aggro
13:01.37Lukianover autoshots.
13:01.40Lukian:/
13:01.42TraeLukian, hahaha
13:01.45TraeLukian, ain't gonna happen
13:01.50Lukianmy boar did
13:02.02Lukiantill they nerfed charge and taunt, and taunt again :(
13:02.16TraeBeastmaster should be the only tree that allows you to have a "tank" for a pet.
13:02.25LukianI could use *all* cooldowns and not outthreat it
13:02.27Traethe rest of the tree's are DPS or utility
13:02.40Lukianthems was good levelling days
13:02.49Lukianthe last 6 levels weren't so fun
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13:25.24nornagonrealms doooown ;(
13:26.29NurooBlizz?
13:26.50NurooBlizzard realms??
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13:30.18nornagonNuroo: indeed
13:30.37Nurooi can say only "HAHAHA"  :D :D :D :D
13:31.15nornagonNuroo: indeed
13:31.24Nuroo:D
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13:49.26JunkHead!
13:51.00Nurooare u in Home Junk ?
13:51.57JunkHeadYeah but I gotta go now.
13:52.00JunkHeadErrand time.:\
13:52.04JunkHeadSeeya guys later.
13:53.29Nuroobye dude
13:56.21thunderchldtootles
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15:26.28Rufwonhello strangers
15:28.11thunderchldhiya
15:28.56RufwonTook a break from wow a few days cause my guild pissed me off
15:29.07thunderchldthat was probably for the best
15:30.20RufwonNobody is motivated to progress and I keep trying to get some groups together even for heroics or something and I just don't get any feedback.
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15:31.55RufwonWe got geared toons in the guild for these types of runs but it seems as if most of them would rather level an alt instead of trying to get better gear for Karazhan runs which we RARELY do.
15:32.46lprichBecause the only real reason for Kara anymore is the badges.
15:33.38thunderchldyea
15:34.12RufwonWell I'm getting a little upset because I got the same rap with my other toon in that guild. It's getting rather repetitive and annoying. I'm having the little devil behind my back telling me to just quit all together.
15:34.38lprichThat's what I'm doing!
15:34.42lprichCopycat!
15:34.44lprich:P
15:34.53thunderchldyea, i'm on hiatus because i was getting bored
15:35.00lprich^^
15:36.03RufwonWell it's not that I'm bored with the game. It's more like I seem to join guilds who want to raid but dont or says they raid a lot but struggle to get there healers/tanks online.
15:36.38lprichThat's a problem across the whole game right now I think.
15:36.54lprichWe've got an expansion coming out in the not so distant future
15:37.06lprichit's the beginning of summer
15:37.29lprichother games have been/will be soon released
15:38.11thunderchldyea
15:38.18thunderchldfamily vacations
15:38.20thunderchldbeach
15:38.22thunderchldmmmm the bach
15:38.23RufwonI even try to sell myself in the LFG channel and I can't even get in a Heroic. It seems as if the only way to get in it is be in a guild which I'm already in... sadly!
15:38.24thunderchldand the beach
15:39.40RufwonSo these are my options! A.) Quit WoW  B.) Reroll Druid or Paladin C.) Quit the guild and hope to find something better.
15:40.06lprichWhy reroll druid or paladin?
15:40.22Keya_Rufwon: what class are you playing?
15:40.47RufwonBecause I can tank heal and dps with them as opposed to just my rogue which is just DPS.
15:41.14RufwonMy hunter is DPS/CC and he can't even get in either since its over populated class.
15:42.10lprichtwo of the most highly populated classes ever.
15:42.19RufwonBasically...
15:42.23lprichRoll shaman. Nobody plays them.
15:42.36Keya_my hunter is basically a pvp char, and that's fine
15:42.42lprichYou get groups left and right... but only as resto until you're uber geared for enhancement. :D
15:43.21RufwonI never really thought of being a healing class.
15:43.34RufwonIt seems that's the only way to get in any raid
15:43.53lprichRaids don't work without dps, but yeah.
15:44.00lprichGood tanks and healers are more sought after
15:44.17lprichbecause for the most part, any dps class will work.
15:44.56RufwonI really don't think it matters of how "GOOD" you are because frankly it's becoming about your stats rather then your skill.
15:45.34lprichUntil you're into T6 content yeah. Even T5 to some extent.
15:45.42RufwonYou could have +600 to heals or something and be the best healer in the game but you won't get in because the not so good healer has +1500 to heals
15:46.17lprichThat's kindof a jump, but yeah.
15:46.36RufwonI'm just saying as an example. It's not about skill anymore its about stats.
15:47.06lprichIt's been like that for a while.
15:47.21Cookie4tank threat generation is definitely a skill, not just a pile of stats.
15:47.22lprichHowever.
15:47.31lprich^^
15:47.40Cookie4well, maybe it's just stats if you're a paladin. or a druid. they get ezmode tanking.
15:47.57lprichI was about to say, you could take the person with the better stats and see how they do
15:48.14lprichand when you see that they suck, well...  actions speak louder than words
15:48.52lprichI've had guilds boot their own healers from ZA and BT to take me, when I wasn't even in their guild.
15:49.02lprichEven though their healers had better gear
15:49.06Cookie4generally speaking, however, someone with high stats is inherently better than someone with low stats, simply because the person who has high stats had to do a lot of stuff just to get that gear.
15:49.17lprichbecause I know how to play my class pretty darned well.
15:49.59lprichCookie3: If that was said a year ago I would believe you.
15:50.09lprichBut now, with badge gear and the ezmode content...
15:51.03lprichI mean, the badge gear is easily T5 quality, and you don't have to do anything beyond Kara to get it at a reasonable speed.
15:52.08lprichNow that there are no attunements either, it's gotten even worse.
15:53.51lprichThere is like, no skill involved in getting quality gear anymore. It's all about how much time you want to spend grinding heroics/kara/za and doing pvp.
15:54.06lprichNow, I will say that ZA does require at least SOME skill
15:56.26lprichbut not much. And it's mainly focused around your tank(s) and healers.
15:57.10lprichAnd then for a 4 chest run, you just have to be uber geared. You take 2 healers, 2 tanks, and 6 dps that can pull 1k dps or higher.
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15:58.22thunderchldWTF - I google vegetables and got "Asian Vegetable sex!"
15:58.31lprichDuh!
15:58.40lprichWhat else are vegetables good for?
15:58.48thunderchld:P
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16:02.49RufwonSo what your saying is that I need to just skip KARA completely and do heroic runs.
16:03.07lprichBasically yeah.
16:03.35lprichYou can do Kara when you get the opportunity, but if you really can't find groups for it, you are just as well off just grinding heroics for badges.
16:03.42RufwonGet my badges since they are pretty much close to t5/t6 gear
16:03.48lprichYup.
16:04.30RufwonSo exactly what is Karazhan? Gruuls? all those other progression for?
16:04.38Rufwonabsolutely NOTHING
16:04.40Rufwongg blizz
16:04.48lprichKara/Mags/Gruuls is for T4
16:05.08Rufwon`
16:05.12lprichThere's nothing to say that you -shouldn't- run them if you get the chance
16:05.26lprichbut don't go out of your way unless it's just to see the content.
16:05.40RufwonWhat for when I can do heroics everyday and get my badges.
16:05.49lprichExactly.
16:06.42RufwonSo name some easy heroic badge runs. The only one I know is Bot and Ramps
16:07.16lprichslave pens
16:07.18lprichunderbog
16:07.32lprichRamps is one of the more difficult heroics, actually.
16:08.12Traelprich, really?  I always thought Ramps was pretty easy even on Heroic
16:08.26TraeI remember one run we did so quick, I honestly though it was on normal
16:08.34TraeI kept having to check it if was on heroic or not
16:08.49lprichRamps is uber easy on normal
16:08.57lprichand it's easy on heroic if you have a group for it
16:09.06lpricherr, good group for it
16:09.12Traelprich, course I was tanking and I'm uber bear
16:09.13Traelol
16:09.18lprichbut when you're talking people that are -maybe- kara geared
16:09.54Traetrue I think our DPS were quite OP
16:09.57Traeanyhoo... lunch!
16:10.13lprichThe most difficult heroics are probably the CoT instances.
16:10.44lprichWell, for DPS anyway. Because, they are DPS races for the most part.
16:13.31lprichHeroic S. Halls can be a pain too.
16:14.07lprichOh. And arcatraz...
16:14.14lprichYeah, just avoid that one on heroic mode.
16:19.11thunderchldah - my google safesearch is turned off
16:19.53RufwonNow if I can only get a group for Heroic runs.
16:19.59RufwonI might as well just quit
16:20.17RufwonD3 is looking good again.
16:20.40RufwonDropped D2 cause of the dupes that were happening back then and never went back to it.
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16:23.49RufwonImagine hunters having the ability to Mulitshot stings lol
16:27.19lprichRufwon: Yeah, the game is in a bad general state right now. People are losing a lot of motivation due to the expansion coming up, summer, other games, etc etc etc.
16:29.04lprichPlus the whole general shift from a hardcore PvE game, to a softcore PvE/PvP game.
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16:38.04Flowyhow to simulate my char?
16:38.50Flowyyeah 99 idling users this rulez
16:40.25FinalXTry asking a question that makes sense?
16:40.32*** join/#wowhead Jolt (n=jolt@90-229-160-213-no92.tbcn.telia.com)
16:40.50FinalXAnd be a little more patient if you want people to answer you rather than having your judgements ready, you're less likely to get an answer when you do crap like that.
16:40.53FinalXHi Jolt :p
16:40.56Flowywhere on your sites i can simulate my hero with items from my wishlist
16:41.03JoltHeya FinalXl!
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16:41.30JoltFinalX: Oh man I am so psyched about Diablo 3
16:41.45Jolthugs his original diablo and diablo 2 + expansion
16:41.49MoonWolfi hope you can stay that way for at least a year probably 2.
16:42.05JoltOh yes
16:42.06JoltI can
16:42.16Jolti have it preorderd
16:42.18Jolt<3
16:42.18RufwonYeah I just watching the video for it.
16:42.22RufwonI'm excited for it too
16:42.26Flowyhow to simulate my char?
16:42.31RufwonWitch Doctoer is going to be sweet
16:42.37JoltDiablo 2 kinda fucked over my school years lol
16:42.46FinalXI haven't seen anything of it yet.. might wanna have a look at it later.. :)
16:42.53RufwonI left D2 because of the dupes on the sojs
16:43.06Joltah yyeah XD
16:43.15JoltI kinda miss my lv 90+ Sorc
16:43.17Joltshe was awesome
16:43.21RufwonSo I might just come back now because of that expanishion
16:43.33Flowyleaving for allakhazam
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16:43.37Jolt..
16:43.39RufwonI had a sorc too and miss the cow levels lol
16:43.43JoltXD
16:43.46JoltMoo!
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16:43.57JoltTip: There is no cow level <- i love that tip
16:44.13Rufwonthey took it off ? lol i bet
16:44.19Rufwoni never had to quest
16:44.24Rufwoni just sit there
16:44.34JoltNono that's a tip in WoW
16:44.39Joltwhen you start and has enabled tips
16:44.45Jolton startup XD
16:44.49Rufwonoooo
16:45.07Rufwoni remember mephisto runs
16:45.12Rufwondiablo runs lol
16:45.15Joltand i also laughed my ass off when they showed Deckard Cain in the gameplay trailer
16:45.17Rufwonman those were the good days
16:45.30Rufwonoh yeah i saw that same exact one
16:45.32JoltXD
16:45.40JoltThere is only one i think
16:45.43Rufwonthe graphics look way better now i think
16:45.47Joltoh man
16:45.48Joltthe enchant
16:45.50Joltdrools
16:46.08Joltand the be able to use the envoirment(sorry) lol
16:46.08Rufwonyeah
16:46.20Rufwonit'll be nice to comback
16:46.28JoltNever died man
16:46.29Jolt^^
16:46.30Rufwonim sure my account is not active anymore so ill ahve to start over
16:46.41Joltnah they remove accounts
16:46.44Joltafter a period
16:46.44RufwonI wat to 99 on hardcore .. :D
16:46.53Rufwonwent*
16:46.59Joltomg nice
16:47.02Jolti never got into hardcore
16:47.07Joltfelt too.. hardcore :p
16:47.13Rufwonlol
16:47.21Rufwontrust me i had near to close deaths
16:47.34Joltbrr :P
16:47.38FinalXI won an "old" Apple iMac G4 w/ 1GB RAM at work, kinda nice; installing WoW on that as well, awesome for quickly trading stuff to my other accounts :)
16:47.50Jolthahaha
16:47.52Joltnice
16:47.55Rufwonewww macs
16:48.03FinalXit's one of those lamp kinda things
16:48.05JoltRufwon: He got it for free dude ;)
16:48.09FinalXwith attached tft screen
16:48.12Rufwonyeah lol
16:48.12Joltfree stuffs = rule
16:48.24FinalXworks really well tbh
16:48.28FinalXfor a freebie
16:48.29lprichDude, I'm buying a macbook or macbook pro
16:48.33lprichfor audio editing
16:48.34Rufwonjust never was a fan of macs
16:48.58lprichwhen it comes to doing production type stuff, photoshop, audio production, etc etc etc
16:49.01lprichmacs win
16:49.11lprichdesktop publishing
16:49.24Jolti never do those things
16:49.25Rufwonyeah thats pretty much what i hear too
16:49.29Rufwonbut for gaming = no no
16:49.31Jolti mainly chat and watch movies and game
16:49.31Jolt:P
16:49.42lprichyou can chat on a mac
16:49.44lprichand watch movies
16:49.46FinalXwow runs pretty smooth on macs :P
16:49.49lprichand play -certain- games
16:49.51lprichbut not all
16:49.55Jolt:p
16:49.57Joltlike 4
16:49.58lprich:)
16:50.03lprichmore than that
16:50.06lprichjust different ones
16:50.10Rufwonspeaking of which ! you guys know gates retired?
16:50.11FinalXfink.sourceforge.net -> apt-get install wine
16:50.14FinalX..
16:50.22FinalXwut
16:50.24FinalXgates retired? omg?
16:50.31lprichFinalX: Parallels :D
16:50.36Joltcare :P?
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16:50.48Joltriches man on earth just became a slacker
16:50.49Rufwonbill gates that rich bastard that for every 50 cents we have its 4500$ for him
16:50.50ThantiKLies.  Lies and slander.
16:50.50Jolt-_-
16:50.51FinalXoh, I care about gates retiring, I like him
16:50.51lprichHe stepped down from a main leading position a while ago. This has been in the works for quite some time.
16:51.05ThantiKDid I just see someone say "I like bill gates"? O_O
16:51.31RufwonI think you did!
16:51.35FinalXI did.
16:52.22Joltgrr 100 more points and ill reach over 2000 xbox points
16:53.19ThantiKwtb WoW servers back online =(
16:53.39ThantiKI've got nothing to do!
16:54.23CadwallionThantiK: life.  get one.
16:54.34lprichI'm working on that myself.
16:54.37lprichCancelled my wow.
16:54.42lprichCancelled my LotRO
16:54.52ThantiKMy subscription to life ended a month ago.
16:54.59ThantiKI haven't renewed it.
16:55.15lprichSince when did cereal have a subscription?
16:55.40Cadwallionlprich: since Cereal companies saw the awesome power of a subscription fees.
16:55.57Cadwallions/of a/of
16:56.20ThantiKI felt it was amazingly ironic someone sitting in an IRC chat room would tell someone else to get a life.
16:56.22lprichDo you get cereal every months?
16:56.42lprichThantiK: Most of us are only on IRC during our work hours.
16:57.24ThantiKI'd love to have the type of job that allowed me to sit in wowhead IRC all day.  I'm just not that lucky.
16:57.53lprichWell, Cadwallion is somewhat obligated to be in wowhead IRC
16:58.03lprichUnless I'm grossly mistaken.
16:58.12ThantiKI'm usually the one locking down ports for irc and such due to our employees abusing our internet policy ;)
16:58.51lprichHeh.  I get around that by using SSH to a computer outside the office.
16:58.53ThantiKYou sure wouldn't be on here under my network admin policies D=
16:59.00lprichNot that I have to, since... I run our firewalls here.
16:59.29ThantiKyeah, you've got the same benefits as me - I don't SSH I just tunnel through our internet facing server
17:00.28lprichThe advantage to my SSH is that I can leave my IRC running all the time.
17:00.43ThantiKDitto.  Terminal services for me.
17:00.54lprichewww, terminal services!
17:01.04ThantiKWhen it's just IRC, does it really matter?
17:01.17FinalX19:01:12 Irssi uptime: 41d 10h 58m 31s
17:01.23FinalX^ when I last did my kernel upgrade :o
17:01.55lprichthe uptime on this box here is only 3 days, but my firewall....
17:01.58FinalXssh -> office machine, screen -Dr running mutt, irssi and other stuff :o
17:02.26FinalXor no, that wasn't my last kernel upgrade, that was the power outage.. they replaced the power supply lines to the data center
17:02.28lprich10:02AM  up 157 days, 15:50
17:02.57lprichMy IRC box isn't quite as stable as my firewall.
17:03.02FinalX[danielm@penance. ~]$ ssh root@ping.xs4all.nl uptime
17:03.02FinalXroot@ping.xs4all.nl's password:
17:03.02FinalX<PROTECTED>
17:03.04FinalX\o/
17:03.08lprichnice
17:03.22lprichso to answer your question, ThantiK, yes.
17:03.37lprichTerminal services for IRC is total overkill.
17:03.48lprichThen again, using a full gui IRC client is overkill
17:03.57lprich:P
17:04.02ThantiKNot when the service is already running and I had to be logged in anyhow ;)
17:04.52lprichI think what frightens me more is that it indicates you're using windows for some serious infrastructure ><  lol
17:05.07ThantiKEither way I'm at home atm - oh and trust me, I hate it as much as the next guy.
17:05.08lprichI'm not a windows hater, but there are certain places for it, and other places it should just be avoided
17:05.46ThantiKFind me a good replacement for Microsoft Exchange server that my boss will accept, and I'll abandon windows altogether.
17:05.58lprich^^ Sad but true.
17:06.07lprichSooo many places stuck on Exchange.
17:06.30lprichMainly because it handles calendaring and all that other shit all at the same time.
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17:06.56ThantiKBecause there are no damn standards w/ exchange server...it's all nasty hack after nasty hack with M$oft and hard for anyone to re-engineer =(
17:07.55lprichI think it's more that there is no single alternative that does everything Exchange can do.
17:08.17ThantiKI've seen some software come CLOSE to being able to replace exchange server, but there's always some small, stupid, zomgwehavetohavethatfunctionorelseweregonnadie function that people don't want to replace =/
17:08.47ThantiKAnd yeah, usually has some BS to do with calendaring. =(
17:09.37Cadwallionlprich: I'm not obligated to, I just choose to while I work.  I'm "obligated" to be in IRC to make sure my code monkeys are actually working.  they aren't in this channel, though.
17:10.14ThantiKteh internetz: The new sweatshop.
17:10.15lprichCadwallion: I was just indicating that you're pretty closely associated with the wowhead project, so you being in here is completely legit, right?
17:10.49lprichI might be mistaken though.
17:10.54lprichSo many people have come and gone.
17:11.20ThantiKIf by legit you mean "I have 40 kids in various countries whos mothers I don't even know"...then yes.  He's legit.
17:11.36CadwallionI work with WoW Radio, not Wowhead.
17:11.53lprichClose enough for me!
17:11.57Cadwallion:-)
17:12.29ThantiKWoW Radio that active? - doesn't seem like there would be much to, cover really.
17:12.51lprichRogue pwns joo, news @ 11
17:13.01CadwallionThere's always stuff to cover.
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17:13.14ThantiKDid you cover the Death and Taxes breakup? =D
17:13.19CadwallionWe currently have 9 active shows.
17:14.09CadwallionMy show talked about the D&T breakup a bit, I'm sure other shows did as well.
17:14.10Gnarfozwoohoo, results for my CAE exam pushed back to August 1st
17:14.13Gnarfozlol
17:14.19Gnarfozthey were supposed to be available on June 30th
17:16.16Gnarfozyou'd think an university like Cambridge to be better at stuff like this ;)
17:17.03ThantiKSo unlike regular monkeys who fling poo.  Code monkeys fling code? - Does it hurt/stink when it hits you?
17:17.47CadwallionThantiK: no
17:17.54GnarfozI've not seen monkeys fling poo
17:18.06ThantiKThen you haven't lived a full life yet.
17:18.18thunderchldi really want some green beans
17:18.29lprichdo you want bacon in with them?
17:18.40thunderchldno
17:18.52lprichgood
17:19.03lprichbecause the whole bacon+green beans thing is nasty IMO.
17:19.06thunderchldMy tummy has been hurting since I haven't had many veggies recently
17:19.09ThantiKMmm, want me some french style green beans ;)
17:19.38Joltstretches *Aaa*
17:19.47Cadwallionwb TecnoBrat
17:20.00thunderchldI'm not picky
17:20.03thunderchldjust green beans
17:20.16ThantiKNow I'm hungry. =(
17:20.21thunderchldgrilled, frenched, whole, halved....just want some veggies
17:20.43ecstasiamakes thunder a salad
17:20.49thunderchldmmm a salad would be good too
17:21.05ecstasiapasses thunder a bottle of multivitamins as well
17:21.26ThantiKToo many greens imo.  MOAR MEAT!
17:21.40thunderchld:P
17:21.57lprichgives thunderchld some meat
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17:24.39ThantiKSo 11am PST is what EST...2pm?
17:24.44Rufwonhmm I got 255 hit rating right now .. me thinks i did too much?
17:24.54ThantiKwhat class ruf?
17:25.02RufwonI haven't even gone through KARA yet
17:25.03Rufwonrogue
17:25.23ThantiK302 is top-end I believe if I remember correctly
17:25.57ThantiKnvm, 362
17:26.13RufwonWell whatever it is .. I'm reading some post where this guy says 250 HR for ZA
17:26.23Rufwonand im like .. uhh
17:26.47ThantiK250 HR is minimum what we accept in my guild, and that's considered low....way low.
17:26.58Rufwoneven to get in KARA?
17:27.03ThantiKnot for kara, no way
17:27.18Rufwonthats what im saying i havent even gone through kara
17:27.29Rufwon3/8
17:27.48RufwonSo me thinks im stackin too much HR too much?
17:27.55Rufwoneh lol
17:27.57ThantiKYour combat spec?
17:28.00Rufwonyes
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17:28.17ThantiKThe more your offhand hits the more energy you get, so I dunno, what's your AP/crit?
17:28.19Rufwonunbuffed: 255HR 1100 AP 21%crit 7K Health
17:28.39Rufwons2 with mongoose
17:28.44Rufwonboth of them
17:29.04ThantiKThat's not bad at all - but then again I don't know rogues nearly as well as other classes.  I know an enhance sham at 70 would be "ok" with those stats.
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17:30.29lprichThat's like, kara worthy.
17:31.02Rufwonwith those mongoose procs and all the buffs i get from my "group" i reach up to 1900 AP .. ive seen it go up as high as 2100
17:31.05Rufwoni was freakin shocked
17:31.22ThantiKOh, heh I guess my comment about "no way" for kara does look to be taken in the wrong context - I was mentioning that your set for kara, not that you were undergeared (oops)
17:32.16RufwonI might be able to even pass for ZA if im taht lucky lol
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17:32.45ThantiKHonestly karazhan can be done in blues.  And it's been nerfed to hell and back even since people did it in blues in the beginning of TBC so, yeah.
17:32.53lprichEhh, unbuffed you want to be at least like 1400 I think for ZA. Not entirely sure to be honest.
17:33.19Rufwon1700 AP for ZA
17:33.32Rufwon1300AP for Kara
17:33.35Rufwon~
17:33.48ThantiK<--downed nightbane pre-nerf in 50%/50% level 70 blue/epic mix so really anything is good for kara anymore.
17:34.01Rufwonlol
17:34.10lprichYeah, but Kara is all about speed runs for quick badges these days
17:34.16lprichthe standards have gone up
17:34.30lprichbecause people don't want to run it because it's new, they want to run it because it's easy badges
17:34.31ThantiKProt Paladin, 2 good healers.  The rest of the group can be complete scrubs and it shouldn't matter much.
17:34.49lprichSame with like ZA
17:35.01ThantiKZA = ez bear mount
17:35.10lprichThey just want to get in and get done.
17:35.29TecnoBratmorning everyone
17:35.29RufwonWhat have I learned today!
17:35.32ThantiKI really hope they do more timed instances in the future.
17:35.36TecnoBratSkosiris!!
17:35.39RufwonThere is nothing "HARDCORE" about karazhan anymore
17:35.46SkosirisTecnoBrat!
17:35.52Rufwonyo tec
17:35.56TecnoBratSkosiris, how was it?
17:36.06lprichWell think about it... Kara is designed as the first thing to go into other than heroics
17:36.11lprichso blues are perfectly acceptable
17:36.17SkosirisTecnoBrat: awesome, very much so
17:36.28TecnoBratsweet
17:36.38ecstasiai love monday night 3 hour pug kara run s
17:36.44ThantiKI always take a welfare spot or two.
17:36.50ThantiKand still get done in under 2 hours
17:36.50Rufwonheh
17:37.07ecstasiasomehow managed to do it in 3 hours even though the maintank was using seal of vengeance the whole freakin time\
17:37.17ThantiKUh, SoV is amazing.
17:37.42Cadwallionnot for trash it isn't. :-P
17:37.44ecstasiathey made me tank prince, lol
17:38.03NamLOLZ
17:38.06NamI FUCKED YOUR DAD
17:38.09NamWHILE YOUR MOM
17:38.11NamRECORDED US
17:38.13NamNOW WE ARE
17:38.14ThantiKEven for trash, there's a little known trick that if you refresh SoV more often than "you should" it stacks quickly.
17:38.14NamON YOUTUBE
17:38.19NamLULZ
17:38.25*** kick/#wowhead [Nam!i=tecnobra@tecnobrat.com] by TecnoBrat (Stop)
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17:38.38NamLulz
17:38.43Jolthrr
17:38.46NamI'm so high
17:38.47Joltgrrrr
17:38.55NamI see Napoleon Bonaparte dancing polka
17:39.00ThantiKBragging about being high is like bragging you have herpies.
17:39.08ecstasiaumm yeah, mebbe a 1hour ban?
17:39.15NamHerpies is like cranberry
17:39.17NamIt's cool
17:39.23JoltDid anyone get my question?
17:39.32NamI got your question in my uretra
17:39.32CadwallionJolt: neg
17:39.32NamLOLZ
17:39.38Wikwocket...
17:39.42ThantiKban imo
17:39.42NamOmg lulz
17:39.42lprichhahaha
17:39.48CadwallionTecnoBrat: you know you want to...
17:39.49*** mode/#wowhead [+b *!*@sra83-1-88-163-204-83.fbx.proxad.net] by TecnoBrat
17:39.50lprichNam: Chill out man. :)
17:39.54Cadwallion:-D
17:39.57*** kick/#wowhead [Nam!i=tecnobra@tecnobrat.com] by TecnoBrat (Come back when you aren't high.)
17:39.58JoltHm was thinking if anyone knew where i could find a nice epic belt for druids ;)
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17:40.09WikwocketWhat spec?
17:40.12ThantiKKArazhan crafted (for dps?)
17:40.31Joltferal
17:40.31Jolt:)
17:40.47Joltdps / tank
17:41.01ThantiKnvm, that's a chest =(
17:41.21WikwocketHow about http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30040 or http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30042 ?
17:41.57ThantiKLeatherworker?
17:42.01CadwallionD-: where's t3h krag0th been?
17:42.03Joltoh those are really nice, but ack -_- i hate farming stuff :p
17:42.22ThantiKyeah, I'd think http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30042 would be best
17:42.23Joltwas thinking as more of a drop or something like that :)
17:42.27Cadwallion@stats
17:42.37MartinThunderStats Updated: http://wow.tecnobrat.com/ircstats/wowhead.html
17:42.42Joltmmm damn thats a nice belt
17:42.48Joltguess id have to start farming then
17:42.50Joltcries
17:42.57lprichGet the badge belt!
17:43.51lprichActually I don't know if there is a good feral badge belt or not
17:43.51JoltYay I am on the 17th place!
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17:43.51lprichI'm just talking out my rear side.
17:43.51JoltLike normal then lprich ;)
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17:43.59lprichJolt: Exactly!
17:44.12JoltGod only thing i hate about having two tanks, people bugs me all the freaking time
17:44.12Joltlol
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17:44.27ThantiKAccording to pre-set weighting stats from WoWhead, belt of natural power is teh best ;)
17:44.31ThantiKfor tanking anyhow
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17:44.44Joltguess ill farm it then -_-;
17:44.59TecnoBrathangovers suck
17:45.17lprichTecnoBrat: Bragging about a hangover is like bragging about herpies
17:45.21lprichherpes
17:45.24lprichthat thing you don't want
17:45.28TecnoBratlol
17:45.29lprichon your genitals
17:45.35ThantiKexactly.
17:45.38TecnoBrat"hangovers suck" isn't bragging
17:45.40TecnoBrat:P
17:45.50lprichKindof is.
17:46.03JoltTecnoBrat: You need a brain for headaches!
17:46.04Joltouch!
17:46.09Cadwallion*ZING*
17:46.09Jolthides
17:46.09ThantiKburn.
17:46.25lprichIt means "I drank enough last night to possibly lose control of bodily functions"
17:46.32ThantiKStormreaver and mug'thol are up, but where's my Korgath! O_O
17:46.34CadwallionCan we fast forward to July 14th?
17:46.50lprichForget the 14th, I want the 11th.
17:47.08ThantiKForget the 11th, I want January 10th...when we get a new president.
17:47.38Cadwallion14th == my birthday + earliest day my prius could come in
17:47.39ThantiKI don't know if that's before or after we nuke Iran though. =(
17:48.37ThantiK<3 Prius...everyone I know though says they're ugly. =(
17:48.39CadwallionThey are foolish.
17:48.41TecnoBratSo can any of you Americans tell me what today is?
17:49.11Cadwallion...I sense a trick question.
17:49.22JoltTuesday
17:49.24Jolt<- Swede!
17:49.32JoltSweden is America Junior now anyways -_-
17:49.33WikwocketCanadian Day
17:49.38TecnoBratding ding
17:49.41CadwallionTecnoBrat: Canada Day!
17:49.43Cadwalliondammit
17:49.49TecnoBratCadwallion, you looked it up!
17:49.50ThantiKBlama Canada.
17:49.53CadwallionTecnoBrat: ofc
17:49.56ThantiKBlame*
17:50.03Joltso where is sweden day?
17:50.07lprichBlame Canada!
17:50.11Joltwhy does canada need their own day?
17:50.21TecnoBratSo why is it that I know what July 4th is, which is 3 days from Canada day, but you don't know when Canada day is?! :PPP
17:50.22ThantiKYeah, when is "America Day"??
17:50.25lprichCanada is so cute. It's almost like a real country.
17:50.33lprich:P
17:50.34TecnoBratThantiK, July 4th?
17:50.39ThantiKIndependance Day.
17:50.43ThantiKNot America Day.
17:50.51lprichEvery day is America Day.
17:50.55CadwallionTecnoBrat: Everyone should know America's holidays, because clearly we are the pinnacle of Awesome.
17:50.55lprichWe're just that arrogant.
17:51.05TecnoBratlprich, exactly! :P
17:51.06ThantiKYes...yes we are.
17:51.16TecnoBratThats the same thing.  Thats what we are celebrating as well.
17:51.26ThantiKIf ignorance is bliss, I'm in fucking heaven!
17:51.32Joltugh i really hate this horde guild on the server
17:52.30ThantiKyay korgath is back up! =D
17:52.39TecnoBratThantiK, Korgath eh?
17:52.42CadwallionFOOD
17:52.43TecnoBratHorde or Alliance?
17:52.46ThantiKalli
17:52.53TecnoBrathow long you played there?
17:52.55TecnoBratand what guild?
17:53.06ThantiKsince server xfers back when DnT came to the server, and Decadence
17:53.06*** join/#wowhead blay (n=KevFlow@50.206.8.67.cfl.res.rr.com)
17:53.11TecnoBratOh dude
17:53.12TecnoBratme too
17:53.29ThantiKPlayed with Calibre on the xfer, (now auxillium)
17:53.31TecnoBratmy main is Barbanus, Paladin.
17:53.33JoltPathogen horde @ frostmane pvp
17:53.48TecnoBratI was an officer, and then the GM of Progeny
17:53.50ThantiKused to be mage class officer for them and I'm secondary paladin tank for decadence ;)
17:53.52TecnoBratthen we broke up
17:53.57ThantiKYeah, Progeny was good
17:54.33TecnoBratI was originally on Kil'Jaeden before the transfers
17:54.39ThantiKStormreaver here.
17:54.56ThantiKMy horde are on Mug'thol & Dethecus
17:55.01TecnoBratahhh so you were in the 2nd group of transfers when DnT etc came
17:55.09TecnoBratI was in the first set before that
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17:55.48ThantiKYeah, I came because horde guild...uh - crap, can't remember their name...well, anyways came because they xferred and they were amazing world pvpers
17:55.55ThantiKGentlemans Club
17:56.05TecnoBratahh yes
17:56.11TecnoBratthose were good times
17:56.14TecnoBratNaxx
17:56.21TecnoBratDrama vs Insomniacs
17:56.38TecnoBratnow that was some world pvp drama, lol
17:56.40Jaeryn<Keenan and Kel'thuzad> that is all.
17:57.09ThantiKDrama...man I hate nearly everyone in that guild.
17:57.27TecnoBratnow? or before?
17:57.33ThantiKNow.
17:57.35TecnoBratThe oldschool guys were awesome
17:57.39TecnoBratI don't know what its like now
17:57.51ThantiKMost of them now are only there for gtag, and are really cocky.
17:57.54TecnoBratWe took some of their oldschool guys
17:58.32ThantiKWhat guild your paladin in atm?
17:58.43TecnoBrathes still in Progeny
17:58.47TecnoBratI don't really play anymore
17:59.20ThantiKbah. - I just got my brother hooked again after a 6 month hiatus.  He saw what my ret paladin was doing in BG and he retrieved the account he sold =P
17:59.59TecnoBratlol
18:00.04Jaerynlolret *hides*
18:00.16ThantiKlolret is amazing in pvp now
18:00.18TecnoBratall of our guild still talk etc
18:00.20Teomyrsounds like my brother. not the account sale thing, but the "OMFG UR CHAR ROX IM GONNA PLAY A WARRIOR"
18:00.23Jaeryn*nods*
18:00.34TecnoBratour guild forums are as busy as they were when we were raiding
18:00.42TecnoBratwe still have our vent, etc, lol
18:00.55ThantiKI'm only ret cause recently had a daughter and I don't have the time to tank anymore - sucks because we just got into sunwell =(
18:00.56TecnoBratlots of our core stopped playing, but they still all talk etc
18:01.01JaerynSo, what are your feelings on Ret in WotLK?
18:01.08TecnoBratwe played together for like 2 years
18:01.09JaerynYay Warrior gear?
18:01.18ThantiKUh, can't have feelings about ret in WotLK, they haven't released any new talents or anything =(
18:01.42JaerynI mean about the empty promise to improve dps and itemization
18:01.59JaerynThen again, DKs will be Blizz's pet project for a whle, so ret might get some nice gear out of that
18:02.01ThantiKActually, they've been doing amazingly well so far, their development team has really come a long way.
18:02.09Jaerynwhile*
18:02.40ThantiKand yeah, DK's are amazing right now.  They made the DK easy to obtain but trust me when I tell you - they're going to suck hard in the hands of mediocre players.
18:02.52Jaerynlike hunterS?
18:03.26JaerynFrom what I've seen of the DK, which isn't much.
18:03.28ThantiKIn terms of the amount of skill based combat - they'll be on par with warriors
18:03.32JaerynEverything looks very 'involved'.
18:03.40lprichmost classes suck in the hands of mediocre players
18:03.47ThantiKyeah, like warlocks, right?
18:03.51Jaeryn*snickers*
18:04.01JaerynI can vouch for that, the Warlocks in my guild blow.
18:04.13JaerynBut I'm too nice to point out that they should be showing me up on the damage meters.
18:04.18ThantiKThe most skill-based classes imo are mage and warrior.
18:04.36JaerynPvP Mage, yes. OMG, I suck at PvP so hard too.
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18:04.57JoltI just want more dps as a tank in wotlk
18:05.06ThantiKThat's what DK's are honestly...
18:05.09ThantiKthey're like DPS tanks.
18:05.13Joltfuck dk's
18:05.14Jolt-_-
18:05.17Joltgief lv 80 warriors
18:05.21ThantiKTitans grip ftw.
18:05.36JaerynTitan's Grip is going to be insane.
18:05.37ThantiKDual-Wielding 2 handers
18:05.42ThantiKlolwarriors
18:05.46JaerynDual Cat's Edge.
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18:06.02JaerynYou know -someone- will do it.
18:06.02ThantiKDUAL HAND OF RAGNAROS IMO! =D
18:06.28JaerynNo no
18:06.29JaerynDual
18:06.33JaerynARCANITE REAPER HOOOOOOOOOOO
18:06.41ThantiKOld skool = ftw.
18:06.54JoltI wanna ninja another Gore Howl just for the Dual wielding :p
18:07.42JaerynBut yes, Gnome Death Knight for me.
18:07.46JaerynNamed Gnotorious.
18:08.05ecstasiagnome with pink pigtails?
18:08.14Jaerynno, that's my tank
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18:08.35ThantiKI've noticed a huge lack of gnome warriors...I've always wondered why.
18:08.42JaerynOh, they're a blast
18:08.51Jaerynhttp://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Cenarius&n=juggergnome
18:09.00ThantiKI know, I've played one...and escape artist is SO PRO
18:09.23ecstasiai know a gnome warrior
18:09.29ecstasiaused to find it hilarious when he tanked
18:09.41ThantiKThat's why I've never understood why there were so few gnome warriors.  Warriors weakness is snares/roots, it would make sense to have a racial, that got rid those roots/snares =/
18:09.41ecstasialittle itty bitty gnome warrior trying to outthreaten a group
18:10.17ThantiKecstasia: wouldn't you get pissed if a little midget was beating your ass?
18:10.46ThantiKMakes perfect sense to me! =D
18:10.51Jaerynhttp://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Cenarius&n=hobbe <-- Awesome gnome tank
18:11.13ThantiKw00t: Blessing of Protection and Blessing of Freedom are being modified to no longer be blessings, meaning they will now stack with whatever blessing the paladin has already cast on the target.
18:12.25ecstasialol
18:12.40ecstasiaoooo
18:13.51TecnoBratlol
18:13.57TecnoBratdance contest from WWI
18:14.11TecnoBratI can't believe they played the bloodhound gang for female gnome
18:14.12TecnoBratlol
18:14.19malikeye|workis there gonna be a d3head.com ?
18:14.26Malgaynehehehe
18:14.28Malgaynemaybe. ;)
18:14.32ecstasia...i still find the choice of names for the conference to be mind boggling
18:14.42ecstasiaapparently they've never heard of world war I
18:14.42malikeye|workdamn, it's already registered
18:14.42Jaerynd3head lol
18:14.55TecnoBratwell ... if its anything like d2, the items are all randomly generated
18:15.01ThantiKstarcrafthead? O_o
18:15.05TecnoBratquests maybe?
18:15.09JaerynKerriganhead
18:15.11TecnoBratthats all I could see happening
18:15.13lprichstarhead
18:15.27MalgayneTB: http://www.battle.net/Diablo2exp/
18:15.32MalgayneI can see having that info
18:15.46ThantiKSo yeah, hunters get stealth...
18:15.50ThantiKisn't that awesome?
18:15.51ecstasiaLOL
18:16.15TecnoBratMalgayne, yea maybe
18:16.17ThantiKnvm, maybe they removed it.
18:16.18ecstasiai really hope they offer ya know, character selections...
18:16.22TecnoBratits still all so randomized
18:16.35TecnoBratbecause of the random level generators and mob scaling, etc
18:16.42ecstasiawas silly having all of one class look the same and be one sex
18:16.49JaerynIt's amazing
18:16.54ecstasiawell the amazons kinda understandable
18:16.54Jaerynthat that site is still maintained
18:17.23lprichDiablo II is still awesome as hell.
18:17.29JaerynIt was that way in Diablo 1, though.
18:17.37JaerynI'm glad to see it change in D3
18:17.59JaerynOh I know
18:18.03JaerynI reinstalled D2 about..
18:18.04lprichI watched the Witch Doctor video... I was like OMG
18:18.07Jaeryn4 days ago
18:18.27Jaerynpeople are still doing trist runs
18:18.45malikeye|workgoing to pick up battlechest right now
18:18.51ThantiKMy wife actually just started playing Sacred & Sacred: Underworld, it's virtually a Diablo 2 clone with much better graphics.
18:18.54lprichMephisto runs ftw.
18:19.04JaerynI ordered War3: TFT from Gamestop, it's supposed to be here today
18:19.09Jaerynso now I can finally connect to bnet with it
18:19.10Jaerynlol
18:19.16JaerynIt was only $9
18:19.29ThantiK<--never played WC3...stopped at WC2 O_o
18:19.45lprichI loaded WC3 a few days ago
18:19.47ThantiKOriginal MS-DOS games ftw.
18:19.50lprichDon't have frozen throne
18:20.03JaerynI played through all the campaigns last Monday
18:20.05Jaerynjust out of boredom
18:20.08lprichI stopped when I hit the first mission that requires you to survive for 30 minutes
18:20.12Jaerynhaha
18:20.15ThantiKlol
18:20.17Jaerynthat was fun
18:20.23Jaerynand easy
18:20.24TecnoBrat"Pro gamers"
18:20.25TecnoBratman
18:20.25lprichI didn't even try
18:20.25TecnoBratthats weird
18:20.31lprichi was like...
18:20.36lprichtotally unmotivated
18:20.41Jaeryn"Don't feel like playing for 30 minutes, bye."
18:20.51ecstasia" which removes the requirement to have your Diablo II CD in the drive while playing."
18:20.53JaerynThey give you stuff to do while you wait
18:20.57JaerynYeah
18:20.57ecstasiahaving to have the cd in was just dumb
18:21.02Jaerynthey did that for SC as well
18:21.05ecstasiawaste of energy
18:21.10lprichfunny thing is I spend like an hour on the previous missions, because I like mining gold
18:21.14lprichand cutting down trees
18:21.18lprichand building huge armies
18:21.28JaerynWarcraft is so not about huge armies
18:21.32Jaerynthat's Starcraft
18:21.37ThantiKI like having the Cd in the drive rather than having to have an internet connection, and have a game locked out completely because you changed the memory in your machine.../cough bioshock
18:21.40JaerynWarcraft is small, but powerful groups
18:22.16JaerynStarcraft is kekekezergrush
18:22.29lprichStarcraft is probably the best RTS ever made.
18:22.44JaerynI got on and played some Evolves
18:22.45ThantiKFrom what beta testers are saying, the new starcraft is amazingly balanced.
18:23.57JaerynI'm still torn about WotLK. I'm going to get it, but I'm not sure what I want to focus on first.
18:24.18lprichGetting to lvl 80?
18:24.18JaerynI don't think I want to play a DK right out of the gate, because I'm not buying an expansion to play through Outland again...
18:24.24malikeye|workthey have a collectors edition announced yet ?
18:25.02JaerynWell, lprich, I have 4 toons at or near level 70, so then it becomes a question of which one.
18:25.20lprichThe amount of time spent getting them to 80 will probably not be that bad
18:25.21ecstasiai'm afraid i'll fall behind on levelling :(
18:25.30lprichYou would likely be foolish to only level one
18:25.37lprichsince there will be new crafting stuffs
18:25.47lprichand you will be able to support your other toons
18:25.55JaerynMage isn't impressing me. I love my Mage, but it seems like more of the same so far.
18:26.09ecstasiawhat level is it?
18:26.15Jaeryn70
18:26.26lprichfire or frost?
18:26.30JaerynArcane/Frost.
18:26.33ecstasiaLOL
18:26.39Jaerynhttp://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Cenarius&n=conall
18:26.40ecstasiaat least mages are always wanted for heroics
18:26.42lprichso you arcane missile spam
18:26.48ecstasiasheep table
18:26.51lprichpft. we do heroics all the time with no mage
18:27.03lprichyou just need uber tank and heals
18:27.06ecstasiaLOL
18:27.15ecstasiathen who will supply the fud?
18:27.37lprichyou do an AV before you go do heroics
18:27.43ecstasiaewww
18:27.47ecstasiafuck that
18:27.54lprichand get deserter debuff
18:28.05ecstasiathen you end up with herpes
18:28.08lprichbasically any pvp instance, nab food
18:28.13lprichdeserter
18:28.17lprichheroic
18:28.19ecstasiadeserter with herpes
18:28.32lprichOr more than likely, you get a mage friend to give you food
18:28.48lprichand herpes
18:28.56ecstasiameh, then you have to get a nother person to help make the table
18:29.01ecstasiai likes table food
18:29.02JaerynRitual of Valtrex
18:29.06ecstasianot water & food
18:29.17ecstasiais spoiled
18:29.26lprichusually not too difficult.. build your 5 man, convert to raid, invite mage
18:29.30lprichmage makes foods, you get foods
18:29.37ecstasiathen you have to drop the group and reform
18:29.37lprichboot mage, convert to normal group
18:29.41lprichbig deal
18:29.44lprichyou haz foods
18:30.08ecstasiathat sounds like entirely too much work
18:30.22JaerynBut yeah, it's either mage or druid to 80 first
18:30.23lprichor you can just buy the naruu rations out on the isle
18:30.34ecstasiathen you're stuck with them
18:30.47lprichsame effect as manna biscuits
18:30.52lprichand don't disappear when you log out
18:31.04ecstasiacan't store them in the MB anymore
18:31.05lprichwell worth keeping a stack or two on ya
18:31.07ecstasiatherefore they are lose
18:31.43ecstasiawhen you carry around as much gear as i do, you can't afford to carry that around
18:31.58lprichI don't carry 3 sets of gear and then some
18:32.03lprichI have a bank for that
18:32.10ecstasiapfft, i needs mine
18:32.12ecstasiaand my bank is full
18:32.19WikwocketI just went to Dire Maul and bought 100 stacks of Kreeg's Stout Beatdown, don't talk to me about space!
18:32.23lprichthen start a bank alt and send stuff to it
18:32.30lprichall my herbs and cloth and stuff go to bank alts
18:32.31ecstasiacan't send soulbound stuff
18:32.50ecstasiathe only non-soulbound stuff i keep in there is my primals, void crystals, large prismatics
18:32.53lprich... if you have an entire bank + bank bag slots full of soulbound stuff, you have issues.
18:32.56ecstasiahearts of darkness
18:33.01ecstasianether vorticies
18:33.48ecstasiagot my pvp kit, stam gear, resist gear, caster switch out gear
18:33.54ecstasiasoulbound gems
18:33.59ecstasiafunstuff
18:34.04ecstasia*coughnoncombatpetscough*
18:34.13lprichhehe
18:34.36lprichWow should do like lotro did.
18:34.38ecstasiai'm still waiting for those special non-combat pet bags they promised last patch
18:34.56lprichthey introduced 2 more tabs of alt gear
18:35.09ecstasianow that would be nice
18:35.09Cadwallionmmmm
18:35.12Cadwallionfood over
18:35.22ecstasiai get so jealous of dps only classes
18:35.22lprichso... you equip one set that you actually get the bonuses from
18:35.28lprichand then you have two costume sets
18:35.33ecstasialike diabloII?>
18:35.34ecstasiasorta
18:35.55ecstasiai'd need 3 extra outfits
18:36.00lprichso the costume sets don't give you any buffs from the gear, but lets you keep gear on you, not in your bags or banks
18:36.03ecstasiaheals, caster, kitty, bear
18:36.29lprichHaven't played with switching out said gear though. Don't quite know how that works.
18:37.10lprichBut yeah. Blizz has said they won't expand the banks and bag sizes due to server constraints right?
18:37.16ecstasiais annoyed at google
18:37.21JaerynI have three sets as a Mage.
18:37.25ecstasiagoogle.ca doesn't have a special picture!
18:37.32ecstasiafull sets, jaeryn?
18:37.34lprichWell, the next time they plan on bringing a new realm online, the customers need to slap them around a bit
18:37.34JaerynDPS, PvP, and Stam
18:37.35JaerynYup
18:37.40lprichno new realms, more bag space.
18:37.41ecstasiaon you at all times?
18:37.44Jaerynyup
18:37.51lprichDedicate that hardware to letting us store more shit.
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18:38.06ecstasiamy last count was about 55 extra pieces of gear in my bags
18:38.11ecstasiahappy canuckistan day, marmot
18:38.16ecstasiabloody calgarian
18:38.43ThantiKecs, I feel ya.  I have full prot, and full holy sets in my bags atm =(
18:38.50lprichlol, mage stam gear - for tanking Krosh
18:38.54marmotIs there a horde quest to obtain a herb bag?
18:38.56marmothehe thx.
18:39.10ecstasiayou keep your krosh gear with you all the time?
18:39.12ecstasiano\
18:39.20marmotgray and rainy so far
18:39.26ecstasia12 slot herb bag from vendor, 20 slot from tailor, 24 slot from CC tailor
18:39.34ecstasia28 from sporeggar rep tailor next patch
18:39.35JaerynYes, because I also whip out a few pieces of it for Naj'entus
18:39.43ecstasiaokanagan is uh, hot and sunny
18:39.50JaerynTHROWITTHROWITTHROWIT
18:39.51malikeye|workbest mage stats? int > stam > spi ?
18:39.55ecstasiayou know what i hate, jaeryn?
18:40.09ecstasiapeople that can't grab enough stam gear to be at 8,500 health unbuffed
18:40.19Jaerynlol
18:40.26Jaeryn*shifty*
18:40.47JaerynI usually sit at about 10,500 buffed for the Naj fight
18:40.49ecstasiathey don't bandage, don't lockrock, don't health pot
18:40.49ecstasiadie
18:40.54ecstasiaand come up at 8,000health
18:40.54lprichI don't think I was at 8500 when I tried naj, but... I've never done TK/SSC
18:41.00Jaerynbecause I'm also the #1 dps in the guild so I have to carry that weight
18:41.01ecstasiawasting a brez or self rez
18:41.01Jaerynlol
18:41.08ecstasiaimmediately dying
18:41.24ecstasiacause they're too freakin good to bring a stam trinket & an elixir of major fort
18:41.50ecstasiai've begun just not brezzing people i know that will popup under 8.5k health
18:41.52Jaerynhttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=30620 <-- my best friend
18:41.57ecstasiaif they want a rez, they can meet hte minimum requirements
18:42.16lprichSo isn't the minimum more like 8501?
18:42.17ecstasiai have the commendation jaeryn
18:42.26Jaerynyes
18:42.33ecstasiayou know what i mean
18:42.36Jaerynbreaking the tidal shield does 8500 damage
18:42.54lprichI've done the fight once. People were bitching at me to move.
18:43.02ecstasiathe netherwing rep trinket gives 45 stam
18:43.04lprichThey pretty much shut up when the raid leader told them
18:43.07Jaerynyeah, the uh.. frost attack
18:43.18lprichI was responsible for keeping WF and SOE down for the melee
18:43.18Jaerynchains to nearby targets
18:43.59lprich"Hi, I'm a resto shaman dropping WF and SOE for the melee group. I need to be towards the front. Move the fuck away from me. I'm not mobile."
18:44.00ecstasiaugh, IE is broken for me today
18:44.04JaerynYou really honestly only need to know two things to raid successfully
18:44.26Jaeryn1) Spread out. 2) For the love of all that is holy, get the fuck out of the fire!
18:44.51lprich3) Don't move during Flame Wreath.
18:44.57Jaerynlmao
18:45.12Jaerynhttp://shadeofaranchant.ytmnd.com/
18:45.13ecstasiamy only consolation when it comes to wasting my brez and 42 silver on rezzing someone is watching them die anyhow
18:45.20ecstasiaha, take two deaths!
18:45.25lprichhehe
18:45.32lprichI've seen people do that
18:45.44lprichhere, have an even higher repair bill.
18:45.51ecstasiayup
18:46.05JaerynWe were having a real off night last time in BT
18:46.14ecstasiaoh i remember when i was kinda new at heroics and stuff and would instinctively brez someone
18:46.14JaerynWe've had Naj on farm, but we wiped for 2 hours that night
18:46.27JaerynI had to stop to tell the priests to stop using circle and throw some prayers
18:46.31JaerynAnd they wouldn't listen
18:46.38Jaerynso then the priest lead showed up
18:46.41Jaeryntold them the same thing
18:46.45Jaerynand they did it
18:46.46Jaerynand we won
18:46.53ecstasiagotta love people accepting the rez then bitching at me for dying again
18:46.56lprichPoM is teh sex.
18:46.59ecstasiathey accepted the rez, then can stfu
18:47.20lprichChain heal still pwns face though.
18:47.52JaerynI've wanted a Shammy just for chain heal
18:48.00JaerynI would put up with 70 levels of grinding just to use chain heal
18:48.21lprichChain heal is only as good as your raid though, in a way.
18:48.25JaerynBut if I did that, I'd probably end up murdering someone for
18:48.29Jaerynrunning away from the chain heal
18:48.35lprich^^
18:48.37lprichExactly.
18:48.59lprichPeople bitch at the shaman for not healing them, when really it's their own damn fault.
18:49.28lprichFor moving out of range of chain heal, or straight up moving out of range.
18:49.53lprichAll these trigger happy dps freaks running around corners and shit, not giving the healers time to get the raid back up
18:50.00lprichXdieX
18:50.08lprichand then bitch... I don't think so.
18:50.25lprichGuess who's going to die a lot more than everyone else tonight?
18:50.26JaerynI've mastered running to the tank
18:50.26lprichHehe.
18:50.30Jaeryn>_>
18:50.48lprichSeriously. Tanks and heals set the pace of the action.
18:51.28Jaerynhttp://img114.imageshack.us/img114/4392/failmathoc4.jpg
18:51.31JaerynFail
18:51.47lprichYeah, DPS plays a role on DPS races, but most encounters are like, tank and spank... and trash is not a dps race in most cases.
18:52.23JaerynI really don't give a damn about trash. If you ever look at a trash only or overall dps meter for me, I suck. Because I'm just standing back chucking random frostbolts.
18:52.53JaerynThere's another mage in the guild that pops icy veins and her trinket on every trash pull
18:53.02JaerynI'm like "who the hell are you trying to impress?"
18:53.07lprichyeah, casters are at a huge disadvantage on most trash
18:53.28JaerynMy build sucks balls against things that die fast
18:53.35JaerynI have no time to set up any kind of rotation
18:53.48lprichspam fb ftw
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18:54.15lprichmages need a fireball/iceball spell with some splash damage
18:54.45JaerynYES
18:54.51JaerynI would kill for splash damage
18:55.01Jaerynhttp://wowwebstats.com/mbeiemqnj51hi?s=110703-113885
18:55.01lprichseriously, the sorceresses in Diablo II had teh sex when it came to spells
18:55.02JaerynI'm sad
18:55.05WikwocketWell, doing good dps on trash is not always about impressing, it is about killing trash faster so there's more time for bosses
18:55.07lprichand spell synergy
18:56.26JunkHeadhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNdTYcbF8tw
18:57.30lprich<3 my Frozen Orb sorceress when I was playing D2
18:57.48WikwocketI'm sure she'll be back in D3
18:58.02lprichYeah, but chances are they will have fixed the OPness
18:58.27lprichlike, once you hit the higher levels and had certain +skills gear
18:58.30ThantiK...Moobs: http://tinyurl.com/2svk55
18:58.39lprichit was just like, click, dead, click, everything dead.
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18:59.04lprichNSE: Not Safe Ever!
19:00.01lprichI need lunches. BYE!
19:00.22ThantiKthe fact that the pic I linked...
19:00.25Wikwocketwow he can eat after seeing that...
19:00.25ThantiKreminded you of lunch...
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19:02.43RawsTODO: rotate pants
19:05.20RawsAlso, http://www.doingitwrong.com/wrong/20070522-091941.jpg
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19:08.07JunkHeadwtf?
19:08.48matty-Kris Kross style is coming back?
19:10.33JunkHeadhttp://www.doingitwrong.com/wrong/advanced_car_styling.jpg
19:10.36JunkHeadholy shit
19:12.21FinalXlol
19:12.42ecstasiatoday will be a long day of virus, spyware, adware, malware scanning\
19:25.58Cadwallionyar
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19:56.57ThantiKThis is my firewall: http://www.doingitwrong.com/wrong/Howtostopcomputerviruses.jpg
19:57.04TecnoBratrofl http://www.doingitwrong.com/wrong/wegfahrsperre.jpg
20:07.00ecstasiahappy canuckistan day, tecno
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20:33.13malikeyewoot, diablo2 in 800x600 :)
20:33.36ecstasialol
20:34.01ecstasiamy IE is all kinds of broken today
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20:34.05ecstasiathis is drving me crazy
20:36.58ecstasiadusts off firefox
20:43.30malikeyeanybody use ElkBuffBar
20:43.31malikeye?
20:44.10_raneme
20:44.56malikeyeI type /ebb and nothing comes up
20:45.05malikeyeyou using the wowace version or the wowinterface version ?
20:46.17malikeyeright now I use buffalo, but I need to see a blink cooldown better
20:47.26WikwocketOmniCC has awesome cooldown visualization
20:47.40Wikwockethttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4836
20:48.55malikeyesimple enough, I'll give that a try
20:50.00lprichnetsplits?
20:50.53malikeyeI think buffalo might be fubar'd
20:55.16lprichBuffalo?
20:55.30adashielTorch catching with bad latency causes singeing.
20:56.07lprichLittle boys who play with matches wet the bed?
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21:29.46Corgantackles Skosiris
21:32.40Rufwonsomeone introduced me to this site and i hav enot stopped yet but this was funny
21:32.41Rufwonhttp://www.doingitwrong.com/wrong/20070924-000454.jpg
21:32.58Rufwonyou dont know how many times i wish i could of done that in college
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21:36.49Corganhttp://www.doingitwrong.com/wrong/20070603-055023.gif
21:38.35RufwonWOW
21:38.42Rufwonroflmao
21:38.44Rufwonclassic
21:40.38alaytonwho the hell writes in cursive..
21:40.57Rufwonhttp://www.doingitwrong.com/wrong/20070531-231005.jpg
21:45.14Corganhttp://www.doingitwrong.com/wrong/20080317-203954.jpg
21:45.25Mori-nekoI do
21:47.14malikeyedo macros automatically take the highest ranking spell ?
21:47.20alaytonyes
21:47.24alaytonunless you specify the rank
21:47.24malikeyelike I wanna "Shackle Undead", but I want level 3
21:47.34malikeyeso Shackle Undead is fine
21:47.35malikeyecool
21:47.35malikeyethanks
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22:05.28lprichAT&T might need to FOAD.
22:07.28lprichIf they say I'm not elligible for upgrade.
22:11.55lprichI've been back with them like a year, and when I signed up I did not buy a phone, used my old one and just got a sim card.
22:12.13lprichI better damn well be eligible for upgrade
22:12.30lprichPaid like $300 for a phone when I did buy from them last.
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22:46.10Lukianer
22:46.25Lukianwhy does armory light have MH speed 3.0 and 3.0 for druids
22:46.32Lukianand MH speed, OH speed both as 1.0 ?
22:46.50Ziconlukian: You're a very naughty boy.
22:47.02LukianZicon, yes I am :o
22:47.30lprichDid he finally show you the pictures you wanted?
22:48.16ZiconNo, he removed it again!
22:48.53lprichHis is removable?
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22:49.44ecstasiabecause it turns into 1.0 in cat?
22:49.51ecstasiaand the actual weapons are generally 3.0
22:50.05Lukianbut neither has an offhand
22:50.15ecstasiamight be considering the left paw as an offhand
22:50.28Lukianneither dual-wields
22:50.38ecstasiapaws are paws
22:50.50Lukianmy left is for balnce
22:50.54Lukianmy right is for clawing
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23:04.42diomacok who linked doingitwrong?? there goes 20 mins of my life
23:05.13Mori-nekopoints at Corgan and Rufwon
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23:10.52ecstasiaokay question, how does wow run on a *shudders* vista machine?
23:12.58lprichProbably about the same as on an XP machine,
23:13.14lprichbut a vista machine -should- have better hardware.
23:13.32lprichsince it's a bit more resource hungry than xp
23:13.39lprichor so I theorize
23:14.14ecstasiawell it's a dual core laptop with 2gb ram... i'm running it on a dual core desktop with 2gb ram
23:14.46lprichwhat kind of video card does the lappy have?
23:15.08Mori-nekothe biggest problem with WoW on a laptop isn't how it behaves with the computer, but rather the controls
23:15.09ecstasiareally don't know
23:15.22ecstasiai hook on a mouse
23:15.29ecstasiaand i'm pretty decent at laptop typing
23:15.45ecstasiai refuse to use the little touchpads
23:16.09lprichassuming it has like an nvidia or ati card, it should be fine on the lappy
23:16.53ecstasiait's just a laptop from my family's business that isn't in use cause of the icky vista... was thinking of borrowing it for beach raiding
23:16.54Mori-nekobelarc advisor can tell you what your video card is
23:18.04lprichdxdiag can tell you what the video card is!
23:18.23Mori-nekoyeah, but I like mine better :P
23:18.37ecstasiai can find out myself
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23:18.57ecstasiajust the thought of using vista, ugh
23:20.17lprichI'm not looking forward to it either, but the sad fact is... soon games will require DX10
23:20.37lprichand DX10 will not be supported on XP.
23:25.29Lukianbut it will be on windows 2008
23:25.42ecstasia2008?!
23:26.14Lukian2008 home server is already on msdn I believe
23:26.26Lukianbetter game performance than vista
23:27.19lprichGames just need to be written to utilize opengl and be all cross platform and stuff
23:39.29lprichhttp://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/funny-pictures-kitten-wants-elevation.jpg
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23:41.23ispep...
23:41.43lprichhttp://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/funny-pictures-little-rodent-does-stretches.jpg
23:43.28Mori-nekoI saw that one
23:43.30Mori-nekoIs very cute
23:44.40lprichAlmost makes me want a kitten
23:44.45Mori-nekohehe
23:44.50lprichBut I haz a puppy.
23:44.52Mori-nekopets her kitty
23:44.58Mori-nekopuppys and kittens get along
23:45.13lprichYeah, but I don't need another pet right now.
23:45.22Mori-nekoyes you do
23:45.46lprichnah
23:46.00Mori-nekoyup
23:46.05Joltpurrs~~~
23:46.32Mori-nekoraises an eyebrow at Jolt
23:46.41Jolt:/
23:46.43Joltcries
23:46.54Mori-nekomews confusedly
23:47.04Joltmews in his corner
23:47.25lprichIt's GTFO time.
23:47.33JoltI got tank trinket from heart of hakkar, head enchant and some lv 60 epic tank weapon today from ZG XD
23:52.54Joltpretty nice day
23:52.54JoltXD

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