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00:30.57Raws|ifoonHEY LAAAADIEEES
00:35.11Mr_Rabies2HEY FELLAS
00:37.31Raws|ifoonMy
00:38.02Raws|ifoon...iFoon just tried to autocorrect "lock" with "Locke"
00:38.30Raws|ifoonSince I share my birthday with Harry Potter,
00:38.34Kasoclearly likes lost too much
00:38.38Kasothat of philosophy
00:38.52Raws|ifoonI dub this "Raws Fappett and the Philosopher's Phone"
00:39.18Raws|ifoonLost, like the TV show?
00:39.33Raws|ifoonI've never watched it, so I have no idea
00:40.07Mr_Rabies2there's a character on it named locke
00:40.17Mr_Rabies2he's pretty much the only half decent actor too
00:40.23Raws|ifoonah
00:40.29Raws|ifoonlolar
00:40.37Kasotheres a John locke in lost also, named after the philosopher
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00:40.53Raws|ifoonI was thinking of the real Licke :P
00:41.46Raws|ifoonok, now it's moved on to kinky
00:41.46Raws|ifoonFRIEDMAN 4 PREZ
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01:36.00RawsHillary Clinton supporters on inauguration day 2009 http://www.worthplaying.com/press/284/TomClancys_EndWar_049.jpg
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01:45.19Corganhttp://youtube.com/watch?v=x9HSaVGnCzM
01:45.21CorganNuuuuuhhhh
01:46.39RawsSweet jesus why
01:55.55WatchDragoni dont even know you, and i hate you now
02:13.51RawsIn related news, I need some fooder
02:13.53Rawsbrb, chicken on a stick
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02:56.44RawsCorgan, run, pig, run
02:59.39Corgan?
02:59.39Corganok
03:01.31Rawsis listening to Run, Pig, Run by Queens Of The Stone Age from Era Vulgaris (3:27 / 4:40)
03:01.57Rawswtfux
03:02.00Rawscorrects improper tags
03:08.10Mr_Rabies2damnit
03:08.33Mr_Rabies2corgan send me the master tracks for the new offspring cd
03:08.40Mr_Rabies2tia
03:08.53Corganhi
03:08.54Corganno
03:11.31malikeyeif I put a gen that "matches a red or yellow socket" into a yellow socket, do I get the socket bonus ?
03:11.52malikeyeor does it specifically need to be a yellow gem
03:12.06Corganit matches
03:12.12Corganyoug et the bonus
03:12.14Corganget*
03:12.19malikeyecool, thanks
03:12.19Mr_Rabies2hrm
03:12.22Mr_Rabies2i've never noticed before
03:12.24Mr_Rabies2http://images.mmorpg.com/images/avatars/120px-Logo_offspring.gif
03:12.43Mr_Rabies2http://www.evolvefish.com/fish/media/Q-GurrenLogo.gif
03:12.59Corganwat
03:13.13malikeye+11 healing or +8 intellect ?
03:14.02Mr_Rabies2healing imo :o
03:14.27malikeyemy int is 568 my healing is 1147
03:14.38Malgayne_what class?
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03:14.43malikeyepriest
03:14.53Malgayneshrugs
03:15.02malikeyeint will increase my mp5 during cast, right ?
03:15.12MalgayneObvious question: Are you frequently running out of mana on tough fights?
03:15.32malikeyenot when it's my first fight with my new guild and didn't want peeps to die :)
03:15.39malikeyeusually I can control my mana usage
03:15.46malikeyeI have roughly 12k mana
03:15.51MalgayneNo I mean basically, ask yourself
03:16.39malikeyewhen I am not trying to over-achieve I have good mana retention
03:16.39Malgaynewhich happens more often: I don't have enough mana to finish a fight? Or, I can't heal fast enough to keep this person at a reasonably high HP level?
03:16.51malikeyecan't heal fast enough
03:16.56malikeyeso +healing
03:17.01MalgayneExactly.
03:17.09malikeyeso wise
03:17.31Malgaynehehe
03:18.39malikeyethink I'll slap a purple into the blue socket too, for more +heal
03:19.14malikeyepurple gem, not purple rarity
03:21.06Mr_Rabies2and to thin
03:21.06Mr_Rabies2k
03:21.09Mr_Rabies2+8 int
03:21.15malikeyeugh, but these gloves aren't really great
03:21.18Mr_Rabies2is +80 mana untalented
03:21.24Mr_Rabies2that's damn near useless
03:21.41malikeyehttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=28507
03:21.48Mr_Rabies2so is +11 healing in the long run but yanno
03:22.39malikeyeI would also be sacrificing +26spi to put those on
03:23.00malikeyeright now I have these : http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27536
03:23.14ecsargh, wow crashed in the middle of fathom fight
03:23.19ecsnaughty wow client
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03:24.36malikeyeonly seven more pieces to get epic'd out
03:24.44malikeyesleeps
03:24.47ecsdon't know if i've died while i was logged out...
03:25.01MalgayneI am so close to full epics
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03:25.10Malgaynehttp://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Draenor&n=Malladin
03:25.18adashielBeen having that problem lately, too.  Video card was dying and had to reduce my video settings so much it looked like I was playing Adventure.
03:25.28Malgaynehahahahhaha
03:25.42ecswonder if it's reset yet
03:25.54adashielFortunately, I just installed my replacement and it's all pretty again.
03:25.56ironmanPC:D
03:26.01RawsI want WoW to look like I'm playing Stunt Copter
03:26.08RawsI just need to get a flying mount and turn it down to 2-bit color
03:27.04RawsAlso: http://youtube.com/watch?v=s-rl3RPC_Mw
03:30.42Malgayne3 items
03:30.47Malgayne3 items short of full epixx
03:31.44Raws:O
03:31.51RawsYou should always be one item short of full epixx
03:31.57RawsBecause pants are not meant to be worn
03:32.12Malgaynehehehehe
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03:43.43Gary13579http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=22871#comments:id=285819
03:43.43Gary13579woooooooooooooooow.
03:43.48Gary13579and someone had it voted it (I minused it)
03:44.09Malgaynefixed. :P
03:44.25Gary13579<3
03:48.08Gary13579haha, love how you fixed it
03:50.49Malgayne...with a ratedown?
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04:21.43Raws"Terrorists hijack a plane full of lawyers.
04:21.49RawsThey ask for a ransom 20 million dollars, and threaten to release one lawyer at a time if not given what they ask for."
04:23.40ironmanPCWhere and when did this happen?
04:24.19Raws…IN MY PANTS
04:25.03ironmanPC<Raws> …IN ?
04:25.17Raws?
04:25.40RawsAre you not using UTF-8 encoding?
04:25.52Raws… should be an ellipsis
04:26.05ironmanPCacp
04:26.32Sky2042...
04:26.34Sky2042..
04:26.36Sky2042...
04:26.38Sky2042huh
04:27.07ironmanPC=)
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05:34.01Rawslifts off
05:58.55Sky2042http://www.cracked.com/video_16271_internet-party-2-intervention-myspace.html (slightly nsfw)
06:00.09Mori-nekohttp://farm4.static.flickr.com/3274/2549695083_b4c9ef92fd_o.jpg
06:06.46Mr_Rabies2that's in an episode of venture brothers
06:06.53Mr_Rabies2SIC SEMPER TYRANNOSAURUS
06:07.13TecnoBratSky2042,
06:07.15TecnoBratI love you
06:07.23Sky2042TecnoBrat: you too.
06:07.25Mr_Rabies2you mean sic semper tyrannis, you said "always faithful terrible lizard"
06:07.31Mr_Rabies2or always the fate of terrible lizard
06:07.33Mr_Rabies2i couldn't tell
06:07.36Mr_Rabies2he had a strong accent
06:07.36Mr_Rabies2:(
06:07.56Mr_Rabies2it was henry killinger
06:08.43Mori-nekoActually, sic semper doesn't mean always faithful, it means "thus always"
06:08.59Mr_Rabies2oh wait it was "semper fidelis tyrannosaurus" in venture brothers
06:09.08Mr_Rabies2he managed to mangle the quote that much
06:09.16Mori-nekowhich would be the always faithful t-rex
06:11.09Mr_Rabies2just watch venture brothers okay >;[
06:11.11KasoMori-neko "Public domain!"
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10:18.00Corganoh god
10:18.01Corganhttp://img.4chan.org/b/src/1212573882890.jpg
10:26.52Kasohah
10:26.57KasoOh 4chan
10:27.09kuinkala:D
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11:55.05thunderchldi <3 battlestar
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12:19.41Lukianlicks thunderchld
12:19.47thunderchldhehe
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12:46.50thunderchldQuestion:  Best way to have a database and import it into a php page.  JSP?
12:47.15thunderchldLike, I have an excel database with addresses that I need to put into an online dictory
12:54.13TraeBacon... In a can!  http://gizmodo.com/5012656/canned-bacon-kills-people-on-touch
13:02.24boman^OMG
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13:11.43nornagonSo, anyone else here run linux? The wowhead client's not so good under wine... :(
13:13.10FinalXi do; never tried the wowhead client under it though
13:13.32nornagonoh well
13:14.12nornagonwould be nice to have a native linux client... but I don't suppose the API is open :D
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13:17.36Lukiannornagon, yeah agreed :/
13:17.43LukianI have to use a vm to upload data
13:17.52Lukianand so I rarely actually do it ><
13:17.59Lukianand my looter is usually out of date lol
13:18.11nornagonheh
13:18.56nornagoncould RE i suppose... but i'd rather not <.<
13:19.28FinalXapt-get install virtualbox :P
13:19.48Lukiankvm > virtualbox :D
13:20.18nornagonyeah, kvm's pretty neat
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13:20.28nornagonbut i'd have to work out how to copy the data across
13:20.33nornagonand that sounds like work
13:21.56Lukian<PROTECTED>
13:21.59Lukian:p
13:22.37nornagon<.<
13:22.48Lukianit's so easy :D
13:22.48nornagonI'd also have to fish out a windows install disk
13:22.55nornagon... unless i have vmware hanging around somewher
13:22.56Lukiandownload it :p
13:24.01Lukianhttp://thepiratebay.org/tor/4008881/Windows.XP.Pro.SP3.Green.Python.Edition.Unattended.Integrated.Fe
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13:24.13Lukianiirc that took 5mins to install
13:25.51nornagoni think the real result here is that we learn of the laziness of nornagon
13:26.36thunderchldman -  103 temp tpday
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13:53.32thunderchldwhy for can I not trial an old version of dreamweaver?
13:55.01thunderchldcan I run firefox 2 and 3 parallel?
13:55.33Lukianshould be able to
13:55.46Lukianbecause you've installed that trial before and it's data is leftover?
13:55.57Lukianor a newer version is preventing it? :D
13:56.00thunderchldno, like, I cannot find it
13:56.07thunderchldyea, new version
13:56.07Lukianah
13:56.41thunderchldbut I really need to use it and I'm waiting on my license to come in
13:57.49Lukianyou have a legal right to the program, so use a pirated version/crack :D
13:58.05thunderchldI can't download it at work
13:58.10thunderchldit's very fustrating
13:58.25Lukianoh? can't use something like rapidshare?
13:58.35thunderchldand dumb adobe's trials are done until JUly 1
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14:08.14Lukiancuddles thunderchld
14:09.06thunderchld:D
14:14.32ZiconCuddling? I want in on that!
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14:24.52thunderchldi actually like the way Firefox 3 looks
14:27.17FinalXI do too, although Opera under Windows is still my favorite
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15:00.34winkillermuaha, wowinsider wins the day
15:00.39winkiller>>You're no more helping gold farmers by using WoWhead's client then you are helping Nazis by buying a BMW. There just isn't any connection and hasn't been for a long while.
15:00.43winkiller>Thread godwinned
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15:18.08lprichI want users to quit being stupid. I also want management to quit being stupid.
15:20.56Cadwallionlprich: good luck with that
15:29.35thunderchldi want lunch
15:29.50Lukianlprich, but then you wouldn't have a job
15:30.32Lukianbacons thunderchld
15:30.38thunderchldhehehe i got baconed
15:35.05robotuschhttp://imageshack.dk//viewimage.php?file=/imagesfree/16c89019.jpg God some people are too effing stupid to drive
15:35.28deltronlol
15:35.54alaytonwhat, how else are you going to get down there? >.>
15:36.34robotuschwell, it's usually only bicycles that are supposed to go down there :/
15:37.02alaytonshe was probably too tired to be riding a bicycle.
15:37.10robotuschworst part is, it was right next to a newsroom xD
15:38.13TecnoBratlprich, I want a naked angelina jolie in my room
15:38.20TecnoBratI don't think thats gonna happen either
15:39.27WikwocketI just saw the news on Wowhead becoming an official wow fan site: congrats Wowhead!
15:39.58alaytonholy shits it finally went through?
15:40.10lprichI'd still have a job, I just wouldn't be pissed off all the time at the stupid shit users do.
15:40.18thunderchldfrakking dreamweaver
15:40.37thunderchldI can't do my work (easily and quickly) with out it at this point
15:43.06TecnoBratthanks Wikwocket
15:43.16TecnoBratalayton, last week actually
15:43.19TecnoBratmaybe the week before
15:43.29TecnoBratthey just announced it a few days ago though I think
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15:47.49alaytoni hate people.
15:48.05alaytononly runed living rubies on the ah are 60g each :(
15:48.24alaytonand theres no design up so i cant just start cutting my own..
15:50.41thunderchldI need code to put in my web page that will conenct to my access database
15:51.09lprichewww, webpages accessing Access databases are gross.
15:51.11thunderchldor an example
15:51.21lprichThat's what postgres or mysql are for, IMO.
15:51.31thunderchldYea, but it's just a little vendors list -
15:51.52thunderchldsomething easy they can update
15:53.12Rufwonwho wants to play yahoo pool
15:53.16Rufwonill kick jur ass
15:53.38Cadwallionic park?
15:54.07Rufwonwhats up cad!! wanna play some pool
15:54.17Rufwonlezz do dissssss!!
15:54.25CadwallionI'm at work.
15:54.32RufwonSo am I
15:54.39Rufwonkek
15:54.49Rufwonzug zug !!
15:54.51lprichBut Cadwallion has a Real Job(TM)
15:55.15Cadwallion6 bugs on my whiteboard
15:55.22Rufwonif it was real he wouldnt be here chattin :P
15:55.28thunderchldOMG IT IS ONLY NOON!
15:55.32lprichCadwallion: you should squash them
15:55.37Rufwonits 9am here
15:55.38Cadwallionlprich: trying
15:55.48TecnoBratCadwallion, only 6?
15:55.57CadwallionTecnoBrat: I know, right?
15:56.26CadwallionIt started out as 10, but I already fixed 4
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15:58.06CadwallionI'd only classify 3 as major bugs
15:58.15Cadwallionthe rest are minor
16:03.25lprichSo, 3 of them are like, houseflies, and the others are like... tarantulas?
16:05.27CadwallionYes
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16:16.05MiyariBibi`
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16:17.39Bibi`Miyari
16:17.58MiyariDo you have a link to the post
16:18.06MiyariWith Ahune's loot table
16:18.32robotuschhttp://www.wowhead.com/?npc=25740#comments:id=241923
16:19.01MiyariI saw that :p
16:19.12Bibi`http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=4603.0
16:19.14Bibi`I guess
16:19.45MiyariThat'll do
16:20.12Miyarity Bibi`
16:20.48MiyariI needed to see if there was anything else from around that time that I would need to give attention to
16:20.50Lukian!p Nether Vortex
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16:21.03MiyariTHE NEW WEEZER CD IS AWESOME
16:22.42Lukian<PROTECTED>
16:22.43LukianROFL
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16:24.34GnarfozLukian: well... that looks authentic
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16:25.18lprichI got http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32946 last night for off spec
16:25.32LukianGnarfoz, if you missed it, http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,23782262-2,00.html?from=public_rss
16:28.29Gnarfozyeah, obviously I missed that, I don't read news, much less australian news ;D
16:29.47TecnoBratMiyari, where does Ahune spawn?
16:30.00robotuschSP
16:30.08Gnarfozslave pens, during the midsummer event
16:30.52MiyariYeaH
16:31.00MiyariSorry, dealing with this stupid TTR stuff.
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16:31.25Miyarihttp://www.wowhead.com/?npcs&filter=na=tamable
16:31.27Miyari(ewwwwwwww)
16:31.33TecnoBratSlave Pens? lol
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16:41.26RawsRAAAAAAAHHHHH IRONFARM
16:41.27Rawshttp://ross.fappett.com/misc/ironfarm.png
16:41.33RawsI just wanted to show that off, that is all
16:43.59robotuschWhat the heck is that :/
16:44.27winkillerno clue
16:45.17Gnarfozsome video transcoding app, but I've got neither a clue what series nor what app, nor what the hell this is about
16:45.20Gnarfoz:p
16:46.11RawsBlah to you all
16:46.20Cadwallionwell blah right back
16:46.21RawsThat's Batch Monitor monitoring my render farm
16:46.36RawsWhich I have renamed "Ironfarm" (RAAAAAAAHHHHH)
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16:46.43RawsIt used to be called Juggernaut
16:46.47RawsAnd before that, The Den
16:46.56Raws(Which is why my machine is named Den Mother)
16:47.35Cadwallion(what is it rendering)
16:47.43lprichwow. http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30918 is pretty nice, and I have a chance at getting it now that I'm in a real guild.
16:48.17lprichstill going for http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34931 though, over http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30893
16:48.22alaytoni wish i could get that ><
16:48.26Raws(It's rendering YOUR MOTHER)
16:48.38alaytonstupid guild not running hyjal anymore..
16:48.42Cadwallionresto shammy boots dropped last night in hyjal
16:48.50lprichthose are nice boots
16:48.56Cadwallionwent to a healadin
16:49.06Cadwallionas we have 0 resto shamanz
16:49.45lprichIt was funny last night, kinda.  I ended up chatting with a guildie for a while.
16:50.00lprichHe was telling me how I'm like, the best person they've recruited in the last few months.
16:50.24lprichThe reason it's funny is because I'm undergeared compared to everyone else, but i'm doing WAY better than them.
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16:50.53PoeticDragonhides ina corner
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16:51.09Cadwallionsends a bengal tiger at PoeticDragon
16:51.16RawsOkay, hmm
16:51.25RawsThe fire alarm appears to be going off at the bar downstairs
16:51.28RawsBut not in our office
16:51.28PoeticDragonRaws! Cadwallion! Hi :D
16:51.34Raws'lo Poe!
16:51.43lprichI'm sitting at like 1900 healing unbuffed, and they keep sticking me in the melee group so I drop WF, instead of WoA. So I'm not fully buffed, but I'm outhealing people that are actually wearing the gear from the places they have been raiding, ie bt/hyjal.
16:51.52CadwallionRaws: why would you render my mother?  waste of a renderfarm, tbh
16:52.01CadwallionPoeticDragon: Greetings
16:52.09lprichhi PoeticDragon
16:52.25Rawsrenders Cad's FACE
16:52.45lprichlol, hiPoeticDragonallergenic.
16:52.52lprichstops with the terribad jokes
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16:53.45RawsHmm. lol
16:53.46Miyarihttp://bp2.blogger.com/_FQ8I0jj1F5s/SBxB_M6Y3dI/AAAAAAAAADw/gInWCEUdMlw/s1600-h/ShiftyEyedPoliticians.JPG
16:53.49RawsI hear sirens outside
16:53.49PoeticDragonGood, cause I don't get it
16:53.52MiyariWeeee!
16:53.56RawsI wonder if, uh, I should get everyone out of the office
16:54.12lprichDamn. Could shamans get some gear with strength instead of AP please.
16:54.17CadwallionRaws: are you on the second floor?
16:54.24Cadwallionor higher?
16:54.31PoeticDragonlprich: no
16:54.43RawsWell, there's a restaurant/bar below the ground floor
16:54.48RawsWe're on the floor directly above it (ground/first)
16:54.54Cadwallionbah, you're fine then
16:55.00lprichPoeticDragon: Why not?
16:55.01RawsOk!
16:55.04PoeticDragonYeah, its not like fire travels up!
16:55.07RawsAye
16:55.08PoeticDragonOr smoke@!
16:55.21lprichOh wait, I know why.
16:55.23RawsAnd it's not like our server room is directly above the grease pans downstairs
16:55.31lprichBecause then Huntards wouldn't want to roll on it. ><
16:55.35Raws(fun fact: IT IS)
16:55.50CadwallionRaws: NEW SERVERS YAY
16:56.03Raws:-D
16:57.28CadwallionI hate that my code monkeys use Dreamweaver.  McEmo's downloading the entire site he's working on.  In Dreamweaver.
16:57.35CadwallionWhich means 4x longer than had he used a real FTP client
16:57.46RawsUgh, I have the same problem here
16:58.03[dRaCo]get new monkeys
16:58.23RawsI want code penguins, and stuff
16:58.34lprichooh yeah, i procced discovery of http://www.wowhead.com/?item=22851 last night :)
16:58.45RawsAlso, in related news, lmao at Miyari pic
16:59.19PoeticDragonI like DW. :O      I wouldn't download an entire site with it, but the convenience of being able to upload from my syntax-highlighting editor is, well, awesome.
17:00.12RawsPah, I can do that too, without DW!
17:00.19RawsI'm not one to talk though, DW has its merits and I used to use it
17:00.22RawsI just grew out of it
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17:01.59CadwallionRaws: same
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17:02.28CadwallionI use Aptana, and you can upload from your syntax-highlighting editor with the same shortcut as Dreamweaver.
17:02.34Cadwalliononly, well, it doesn't suck.
17:02.49PoeticDragonWell, the alternatives I've tried have sucked balls
17:03.12winkilleryou shouldn't upload from editor anyway
17:03.16PoeticDragonLike the one I have right now (because it also supports SSH) wont copy/paste from outside the program its that fucking retarded.
17:03.24winkillermissing the revision management inbetween ><
17:03.54lprichmmmmm revision control
17:03.58Cadwallionwinkiller: I can commit to svn at the same time
17:04.02lprichSVN ftw
17:04.28RawsTweaK: 'lo! :)
17:04.55lprichNeed to down anetheron more, drops stuff i want
17:05.17Cadwallionwinkiller: besides, EVERY edit does not need to go into the svn
17:06.11Cadwallionif I commit every change when i'm testing to svn, i'd hit 40 revs a day
17:06.13winkilleryou never want fixes on live servers
17:06.24Cadwallionofc, but that's why there's a dev platform
17:06.52winkiller40 revs a day isn't bad
17:07.05winkillerit's not like svn stops at rev. 2000 or so P
17:07.07Cadwallionif revs 2-39 don't matter
17:07.26winkillerthat's why git is perfect :P
17:07.41Cadwallionlunch tiem
17:07.50winkillerlunch? madness
17:07.55winkillerI already had dinner :D
17:09.53RawsLuuuncher
17:09.56RawsMan
17:10.06RawsThat googly eyes pic is kicking my ass
17:10.07RawsI want to do that
17:10.12RawsExcept with the Yalta conference pic
17:10.23RawsAnd hang it on the wall in my office
17:10.46TecnoBratCadwallion, thats why you need a local test server
17:10.51TecnoBratso you can putter around
17:10.58TecnoBratand then commit when you actual fix it
17:11.00RawsAnd back to the conversation at hand, there's an awesome little local version control utility, but I can't remember the name of it
17:11.01TecnoBratto the live servers
17:11.09RawsIts name starts with a D, I think
17:11.17RawsI was just talking about it a few days ago :-(
17:11.26TecnoBratgit?
17:11.50RawsActually yes, it is git
17:12.22RawsOh wait, no, it wasn't
17:12.29RawsIt was darcs
17:12.42Raws(git is awesome, btw)
17:12.45Rawshttp://darcs.net/
17:12.50winkillerWTF, just heard the news that the US now want a 3 day pre-notice if you want to fly there
17:12.59winkillerthey're going nuts more and more
17:13.04Rawswtf?
17:13.18winkilleryeah, all in the name of homeland security of course
17:13.35winkiller3 days before flight you have to fill out an online form
17:13.56RawsThat is megalame
17:13.57winkillermethinks there's some braindamaging waves going round in washington DC
17:14.04RawsWell, let's hope that gets fixed soon
17:14.16RawsOn a happier note, I'm going to follow Cad to lunch
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17:20.05robotuschFLIP TO MEXICO!
17:20.23robotusch.. and me to the north pole kthxplx
17:21.49TecnoBrat"Movies now available on the iTunes Store in Canada."
17:22.43robotuschI'm going darntasticly melt away soon :<
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17:30.22Lukianhttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=30943#same-model-as <- these aren't the same model
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17:32.11Lukianie. Handwraps of Undead Slaying & Netherblade Gloves
17:32.19Juippisyea
17:33.31alaytongloves shouldnt have that tab ><
17:33.33alaytonsilly sko
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17:34.46Lukianwhy do gloves fail?
17:35.24alaytonsame reason chests, pants, boots, capes, belts fail
17:35.30alaytonthey arent actual models
17:37.44Juippis:-P
17:38.02Lukian(03:37:16) Pandor: well wouldn't the ones with the chunky bits technically be models?
17:38.15RufwonSo I'm not even done with Nagrand yet  but I'm about 6 bars from leveling to 70! lol Looks like BEM, NS and SV will be my money makers and such good places they are for that.... I have about 1900g scratch 1000 for my 60% flying mount. You think I'll have enough for my epic flying mount after im done with SV?
17:38.45PoeticDragonScrew Shadowmoon. Do dailies.
17:38.47Juippishmm, no
17:39.00Ozguliyou can do both
17:39.01JuippisPoeticDragon: after leveling to 70 it's really recommended to do all the quests
17:39.09Juippisyou get like 11-22 G from a quest
17:39.10Juippisso why not?
17:39.11Rufwon3 Areas to make money and your saying I won't have gold for my epic?
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17:39.45PoeticDragonBecause its faster and easier and you get the same amount of gold doing dailies. Do your 25 dailies first. If you still have time left to play and do quests that day, THEN do the non-repeatable stuff.
17:39.46JuippisRufwon: yea well I got something like 2,5 G from Blade's Edge, Netherstorm and Shadowmoon when I hit 70
17:39.51LukianRufwon, 3 areas is plenty
17:39.53Juippisno, not even that much
17:40.00Juippisunder 2k
17:40.35PoeticDragonThere's no reason to do all the non-repeatable things before doing everything repeatable you can each day. That's all.
17:41.05Rufwonhmm
17:41.16JuippisPoeticDragon: well, point taken
17:41.20Lukianrepeatable quests are designed to be quick and easy
17:41.26Juippisactually I did the same with SV
17:41.37Juippisfirst dailies then to Shadowmoon Valley
17:41.52JuippisI still have 4 unfinished quests in there that are not group quests :-P
17:42.16PoeticDragonI am very, very slowly finishing Zangarmash in this fashion, heh. 25 dailies, if I still feel like questing, off to ZM
17:42.32PoeticDragon(I leveled my paladin healing instances, and refused to do quests, because at the time dailies didn't exist)
17:42.39JuippisZangarmarsh is a pain
17:42.42PoeticDragonSo I was saving *all* BC quests till 70
17:42.53Juippis:-P
17:42.59Juippisdid you have
17:43.17Juippis... a particular reason to do so?
17:43.34PoeticDragonBecause dailies didn't exist.
17:43.42Lukianbecause PoeticDragon was holy :P
17:43.50PoeticDragonSimple math told me these easy level 62 quests would be worth at least 8g a pop.
17:43.57Lukianscrew solo questing as holy :D
17:44.11PoeticDragonThat, and I needed gear, and by the time I got the gear, I was 70 :P
17:44.34RufwonWell I'm going to do BEM and Netherstorm to because I may only get gold from questing but I will more then like get drops as well along with reputation. So I would hate to skip them.
17:44.53LukianRufwon, do you need CE rep?
17:45.02Lukian(referring to 1/3rd of BEM)
17:45.49RufwonI haven't checked there quatermaster items yet but I think they have something least better then what I have now
17:46.00Lukianclass/profs?
17:46.08LukianI did all bar two zones on my first 70
17:46.16LukianI planned on doing them on my 2nd 70
17:46.20Rufwonrogue - skinning/leatherworking
17:46.26LukianI only partially completed them though
17:46.39PoeticDragonI like the "Hi, welcome to 70, here's your 5 piece set"
17:46.54LukianI found it *very* effective to do gear upgrade quests (only) every time I levelled
17:47.00Lukianand then instance for the rest of the level
17:47.54RufwonI remember when I quested in Netherstorm with my hunter. I made a lot of gold.
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17:49.22Rufwonstarting with 900g after i get my norm flying mount is a nice boost....
17:49.32Rufwonhow many of you guys have your epic flying mounts?
17:49.37alayton2.
17:50.14lprichi do
17:50.18PoeticDragon3 of my toons have epic flyers, one has the skill but not the mount
17:50.20Lukianjust on my main
17:50.48PoeticDragon(Because I want a hippogryph, and because my husband's druid has the skill but not the mount cause we can't kill the raven guy, so I don't want to out-pace him)
17:51.50RufwonI could of had my epic flyer with my hunter if I didn't 375 my engineer which cost me so much freakin gold
17:52.47robotusch3
17:52.49robotuscheh
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17:52.58robotusch2, with gold for a third
17:53.04thunderchldgreat!  my laptop that was broken came back
17:53.04LukianPoeticDragon, what's your current gold? :D
17:53.07thunderchldand "was delievered"
17:53.09thunderchldbut
17:53.10thunderchldno idea where too
17:53.25PoeticDragonIn my piggy bank?
17:53.33thunderchldI suppose so
17:53.38thunderchldgood of guess as any
17:53.53PoeticDragonLike, I dunno, 2k. But I recently bought both of the druid tank trinkets, which set me back like 3.5k
17:54.13alaytonboth? badge and what?
17:54.18PoeticDragonAnd I got like... 2k spread around between characters on oother servers
17:54.32PoeticDragonone of the darkmoon decks
17:54.36alaytonah
17:54.54PoeticDragonIts really a pally tank trinket, but meh, I can't seem to get the one out of MgT
17:55.09alaytoni went for the moroes one >.>
17:55.25PoeticDragon51 stam == awesome
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17:55.42PoeticDragonAnd some damage reflect for threat ain't bad.
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18:01.03Cadwallionback from lunch
18:01.58CadwallionTecnoBrat: A local environment just means that all your developers have copies of files.  It makes more sense to have a development platform, and then when it's functional, to commit to svn before it goes to live
18:02.26kuinkalaBWL r00ls
18:03.31TecnoBratCadwallion, my ideal setup is: local test servers (and local copies of all files) for each developer, commit code to SVN, staging server that automatically has the latest SVN copy, and a production server that you "deploy" to using something like capistrano
18:04.01TecnoBratthat allows you to maintain your own code without comitting every little change to test it
18:04.15TecnoBratcommit and test on staging to ensure production level support
18:04.26TecnoBratand deploy in releases
18:04.42Cadwallionwhy have local test servers and local copies, when you can have 1 test server for all developers to work on
18:05.01TecnoBratbecause you have to have local copies anyways right?
18:05.14Cadwallionnot of the entire site
18:05.20Cadwalliononly what you're working on
18:05.24TecnoBratwhy not though?
18:05.37TecnoBratand you use SVN to ensure no conflicts
18:05.50CadwallionWhy fill my hard drive with images i'm never going to touch?
18:05.55TecnoBratokay
18:05.59alaytoni work on a local copy, but all of us have our own virtual host on a dev server, then theres a demo vhost that we update from svn
18:06.00TecnoBratimages should NEVER be in SVN
18:06.02TecnoBratever ever ever
18:06.07CadwallionTecnoBrat: ofc
18:06.14TecnoBratimages should be handled in another matter entirely
18:06.15CadwallionHowever, you're saying testing locally
18:06.28TecnoBratyes?
18:06.35TecnoBratyou should have asset servers anyways :P
18:06.37CadwallionI'm not going to know if it's working if I don't have teh images locally for testing.
18:06.38TecnoBratideally
18:06.45TecnoBratwhich means assets.whatever.com
18:06.55TecnoBratwhich you will want to code it that way anyways
18:06.57TecnoBratso it will work local
18:07.36CadwallionThat's only assuming you have asset servers, something zero of my clients have
18:07.41TecnoBratalayton, thats essentially what I'm saying, yea
18:08.10TecnoBratCadwallion, well you work on a ton of fairly small sites anywas
18:08.44TecnoBratCadwallion, how many files do you have on a site on avg?
18:09.29CadwallionFILES?
18:09.32Cadwallionare we including images?
18:10.51TecnoBratcode
18:11.12Cadwallion30, probably
18:11.21CadwallionMy largest has more like 80
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19:09.00Cadwalliongreetings
19:09.16Mori-nekoHow goes?
19:13.02CadwallionIt goes
19:13.03Cadwalliondebugging
19:13.17lprichhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVhwwFHGEFI  lol
19:13.20Cadwallionatm writing a sorting method to jQuery Tablesorter
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20:49.01Raws|luncherCadwallion: aren't jQ tablesorter sort functions awesome :-D
20:50.40Raws|lunchernotes that he is still at lunch
20:56.14CadwallionRaws: i'm running into a problem with it, but yes
20:56.40CadwallionI had to write my own parser, because one of my columns consist of img tags of stars
20:56.46Cadwallionwhich works, except
20:57.03Cadwallionthe header for that row is colspanned
20:57.23Cadwallioncolspan='2' with the first cell being stars, the second cell being numbers
20:57.39Cadwallionthe first colspan works fine, but any header after that sorts by the wrong column
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21:06.52NefarionJust out of curiosity: how much health would a full S4 rogue, enchanted and gemmed (non-buffed) look at?
21:07.15Nefarion(And on that note, would one ever gem or enchant for stamina?)
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21:40.54TecnoBratMentalPower, you okay? :P
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21:42.13lprichmmmm nom nom, burger and fries and milkshake
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21:51.20robotuschHow's that connection going for ya, MentalPower? :/
21:52.17robotusch:(
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21:54.19lprichApparently I'm missing out on the action because I have my joins/parts suppressed.
21:55.13Juippisyour luck you know
21:56.18Mori-nekoYup
21:56.36Cadwallionthat's generally when we ban someone
21:56.37Cadwallion:-P
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21:58.36robotuschonly 12 Error 104's in the last 45 minutes or so though
21:59.04JuippisI stopped counting when my fingers weren't enough
21:59.10Juippisnot that much after all I guess
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22:03.28CadwallionIt's every 3 minutes
22:04.20robotuschpretty much
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22:05.01robotusch.. but I shall no longer be bothered by it, as I'm off to bed - tomorrow shall feature splendid weather and I shall be inside 'testing stuff' and listening to/watching cricket
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22:09.31blademeldMiyari
22:10.15blademeldor any mod?
22:10.50NefarionThey all died
22:11.28blademeldNefarion!
22:14.41blademeld:S
22:14.49blademeldeveryone hates me
22:15.29Mori-nekoyep
22:15.54blademeldhey Mori-neko
22:16.17blademeldhow's life?
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22:26.43JoltHaha, woot!
22:26.48Joltgot Terestian's Stranglestaff on druid today :)
22:26.51Joltfirst epic on it
22:31.54Gnarfozhow did you manage to not get some of the ubiquitious epic druid loot before reaching Terestrian? ;D
22:32.14PoeticDragonIllhoof you mean
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22:38.50GnarfozPoeticDragon: well, riddle me this: what's the mob's actual name? :P
22:39.18Gnarfozhttp://www.wowhead.com/?npc=15688 < hint hint. yes, I misspelled his first name, but whatever. ;P
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22:51.01buuIs there an easy way to create a filter that says 'drops in a dungeon'?
22:51.19buuOh, hey, 'drops in ... (heroic)'
22:51.21buuHot.
22:51.33kuinkalaTeehee
22:51.38TecnoBrathttp://www.wowhead.com/?items=2&filter=cr=105:106;crs=-2323:-2323;crv=0:0
22:51.47Corganhits TecnoBrat
22:51.50Corganon the nogin
22:52.39buuSo, on a related note
22:53.19buuHow come 'Purchasable with' doesn't list gold?
22:53.36buuAnd can you make something on the 'browse' page display where it drops?
22:53.57TecnoBrathttp://www.wowhead.com/?items=2&filter=cr=63;crs=1;crv=0
22:54.02CorganTecnoBrat
22:54.06Corganhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Pd6-QlNhf4
22:54.35TecnoBraterrrr I think that filter is broken
22:55.54PoeticDragonhttp://www.wowhead.com/?items=2&filter=cr=63:92;crs=1:1;crv=0:0
22:56.15PoeticDragonEverything has a buy price if it has a sale price, heh
22:57.22buuThat search doesn't strike me as useful
22:57.33buuWell, I guess it gets closer
22:57.34PoeticDragonYou're the one who asked for it
22:57.35TecnoBratbut .. if you can't buy it ...
22:57.39TecnoBrathow does it have a price!
22:57.56CorganNOM NOM NOM
22:57.57buuI suppose if you did buy price + leather or something you could clear out most of the trash
22:58.07PoeticDragonTecnoBrat, because the sale price is 1/4 of the buy price. Ergo, in order for things to sell to a vendor they have a buy price, even if they're not on a vendor to sell them.
22:58.08buuWait, you still get badge gear
22:58.31TecnoBratno you don't
22:58.34TecnoBratat least I didn't
22:58.57PoeticDragonNeither did I.
22:59.37TecnoBratthe one I linked is wrong
22:59.40TecnoBratit shows everything
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22:59.45TecnoBratwhich is odd
22:59.54PoeticDragonIts odd, but not incorrect.
23:01.21Corgannom nom nom
23:04.14TecnoBratSko is gonna fix it
23:04.20TecnoBratby removing all buy data
23:04.22TecnoBratcompletely
23:04.30TecnoBratthen we won't have this problem
23:04.43Corganyay
23:06.34JoltGnarfoz: because the freaking healer got like 7 healing drops!!!! :O
23:06.59Joltand she was lv 68 XD
23:07.17Gnarfozhaha, should have said 'I need that too, for offspec.' or "i'm just feral/oomkin because my healing gear sucks so far, I wanna reroll resto once my gear is on par!" :p
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23:09.06Joltyeah but ya know it' was a guild run ;P
23:09.06kuinkalaI'm so full of dailies
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23:10.05lprichi'm so full of wiping with my new guild that supposedly had hyjal and everything before mother on farm. :/
23:10.18Joltlol
23:10.23kuinkalaNo guild, no wiping
23:11.06lprichHopefully do Kara and ZA tonight, one or the other, and a heroic so I can get my damn badge pants.
23:11.11lprichBecause they are uber leet
23:11.28kuinkalaI got my uberbadgelewtpants tonight too
23:11.32kuinkalaFor my Rogue
23:11.48Joltrogues -_-
23:11.50lprichbadge pants are almost best in slot for each class from what i've seen
23:12.15wezimani got my first piece of 25 man boss gear last night after a year of playing my rogue
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23:12.32wezimanfrom black temple, reliquary of souls
23:13.01wezimani had 2pc t4, badge/heroic/kara/za gear
23:13.38lprichi got http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32946 last night
23:13.40lprichfor off spec
23:17.59lprichhrm, http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34930 and http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30887 are pretty much on par.
23:18.57buuCan druids use daggers and fist weapons now?
23:19.23PoeticDragonThey've always been able to use daggers
23:19.29buuOh
23:19.42PoeticDragonThe only class who can't is paladins
23:19.46buuAnd fist weapons?
23:19.55PoeticDragonCause lol, using a knife is hard! Paladins eat with their hands!
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23:21.29PoeticDragonThey've also always been able to use fist weapons
23:21.37PoeticDragonThey just can't dual wield
23:21.42buuOh, part two.
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23:33.27lprichhttp://gizmodo.com/391587/5-million+piece-lego-boulder-chases-indy-crashes-into-car
23:33.31lprichLEGO!
23:43.32Raws:OOOO
23:44.42Raws@#%!
23:44.44RawsI have no reaction to that
23:44.48RawsI am just going to sit here and try to find my jaw
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23:53.17lprichBecause lego is awesome

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