IRC log for #wowhead on 20080529

00:03.15Cad|GoogleIOrobotusch: I added comments to wiki articles.  now i can post 'YOU SUCK' to my own pages
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01:27.24Poul|Raideranyone who can show me to make a macro that cast spell on mouseover if it exist else just on target
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01:54.57matty-Poul|Raider, There's a Mouseover Sunder Armor for warriors on Wowwiki.com that can be easily modified.
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03:42.39malikeyethis patch downloader is so damn slow
03:46.49malikeyeplus it saturates yer upload so you can't do anything while it's runnin
03:48.03OlisonFor windows there was a tool called TorrentEx or something that can extract a torrentfile from the downloader...
03:48.13OlisonWoWTorrentEx.exe
03:48.17Gnarfozindeed
03:48.21Gnarfozalso: disable p2p
03:48.30Gnarfozit won't saturate your upload, then
03:48.42Gnarfozand it'll fall back to blizzards http mirrors if you're lucky :p
03:51.55malikeyeahh, good call, forgot about that
03:52.54malikeyenice, direct... at about the same speed
03:53.32malikeyefresh install on this box... only thing on it are WoW and the 2 UI maintainers... nothing else cept maybe COD4 is going on this
03:53.50malikeyeI've had 2 days of crappy lag, and it's been a few months since I installed, so...
03:55.39malikeyehave you used that before ? is it legit ?
03:59.14matty-malikeye, lag as in latency?
03:59.51malikeyelag as in, sitting there watching nothing for 10 seconds, and then a fast forward through what just happened in the span on of 1 second
04:00.04malikeyeand latency
04:00.07malikeye7000+ ms
04:00.21matty-ah okay.  I've been having the same problem too
04:00.31matty-Tech Support forums is filled with threads about it
04:00.39malikeyek, I'll check 'em
04:00.46OlisonIs that US?
04:00.49malikeyemy machine was feeling "icky" anyway, so :)
04:00.51malikeyeyeah
04:01.12matty-yeah
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04:04.53malikeyelooks like it might be my cable provider
04:05.49matty-that or somewhere between the ISP of servers and ours ISPs
04:06.43malikeyeeverything else works fine though, so...
04:06.52matty-yep, same here
04:07.19matty-Using DSL from this guy's wireless I "borrowed" works fine too
04:12.52malikeyeget 100k up
04:12.55malikeyewhich is wrong
04:13.41malikeyeshould be getting 384
04:13.56Raws|znoreIF THIS IS MY NICKNAME, TYPE /NICKSLOB IDENTIPIE
04:13.59malikeyegetting half my download too
04:14.59Raws|znore"Love it, hate it or simply laugh at it, sales of the much-maligned meat product Spam are on the rise as families are forced to stretch their food budgets."
04:15.50robotusch:/
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04:15.58Raws|znoreBest news ever
04:16.14robotuschI think I will have steak tonight then
04:16.20Raws|znoreAwesome attitude
04:16.23Raws|znoreI like your style
04:16.29Raws|znoreAnd would like to subscribe to your newsletter
04:18.05Raws|znore"6 Lions Eat Farm Worker in South Africa"
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04:19.00robotuschouch
04:20.04Raws|znoreI would say that farm worker had massive balls
04:20.08Raws|znoreI mean, six lions to take him down
04:20.14Raws|znoreMost people would just get in the car
04:22.07Raws|znoreAnd now it is time for znores
04:22.21Raws|znoreIf Corgan shows up, tell him I said goodnight and sweet dreams
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04:55.21TecnoBratwow
04:55.37TecnoBratblizzard put a notice on their login screen
04:55.39TecnoBratabout the flash exploit
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04:56.16JunkHead-WorkHowdy.
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05:03.32JunkHead-WorkAny pally tanks around?
05:05.32adashielI have one.
05:05.42JunkHead-Workever tanked in karazhan before with it?
05:05.46adashielYep
05:05.55JunkHead-Workfriend of mien had a question about tanking maiden
05:06.01JunkHead-WorkHow does a pally tank do it?
05:06.05JunkHead-Worksince she silences
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05:07.01TecnoBratSpecifically targeting people with keyloggers :(
05:07.02adashielGood question.  During that fight I mostly cleanse and throw half-ass heals on our warrior.
05:07.14JunkHead-Workthat's how we do it now. I tank it.
05:07.17JunkHead-Workbut she wants to try
05:08.17afkafkaI had to dps with a tankadin on maiden
05:08.38SialitenI've seen it done
05:08.43SialitenI don't know how he did it
05:09.07afkafkashield block threat I assume, and dps-threat-capped be damned, they can dps slower for once
05:09.15JunkHead-Workwell, my friend wants to tank as much in there as she can. I already let her do most of the trash, me only pulling when she is low on mana.
05:09.33afkafkaI, of course, did not manage to do so, and watched the fight from the cool, refreshing flagstones beneath her feet.
05:09.35JunkHead-WorkShe tanks attumen and midnight at the same time, and she tanks moroes and his adds.
05:09.41afkafkait worked, was just slow
05:09.47JunkHead-WorkShe wants to tank the rest except nightbane.
05:09.56JunkHead-Workbut she's not sure how she would do maiden.
05:10.00afkafkawhy not nightbane?
05:10.06JunkHead-WorkThe fears.:\
05:10.15afkafkano wards or totems?
05:10.16JunkHead-WorkAnd we ALWAYS have issues finding priests
05:10.22JunkHead-Workshaman we can get.
05:10.28JunkHead-WorkPriests are allergic to our raids.
05:11.51Lukianwhat the heck
05:11.56LukianHeroic Sethekk is the daily
05:12.01Lukianand I was hoping for it XD
05:12.10JunkHead-Workours was durnholde for the 2nd day in a damn row:\
05:12.15Lukianhahahahahahahhaha
05:12.18JunkHead-Workhush
05:12.27Lukianyeah that's nasty
05:12.34JunkHead-WorkI don't even go there.
05:12.34afkafkaours has been BM for four days running
05:12.38JunkHead-WorkNever been. no need to go.
05:12.44JunkHead-WorkH BM rules.
05:12.49JunkHead-WorkI'd love that 4 days in a row.
05:12.50Sialitenyou don't need fear ward for nightbane :P
05:12.50afkafkayer, it's great
05:13.00JunkHead-WorkSialiten - what else would you use?
05:13.05JunkHead-Workother than totems?
05:13.06SialitenCommon sense?
05:13.11Sialitennot that hard to reposition
05:13.20JunkHead-Workwith our groups, yeah it is.
05:13.24Sialitenah
05:13.28JunkHead-WorkWe always get a couple of idiots
05:13.29robotuscharh bugger
05:13.34Sialitenoops
05:13.41robotuschfailed the penultimate mission in GTA4 again :S
05:13.43JunkHead-WorkWe ALWAYS have 1 person who has never been to kara
05:13.49Sialitenyeah, I hated that
05:13.51JunkHead-Workand THAT is the one goddamn person who can't get on vent
05:14.02JunkHead-WorkAND they WILL win everythign that drops
05:14.08JunkHead-WorkI hate that shit.
05:14.10Sialitenyou know what I hate the most?
05:14.13SialitenTrying to explain the macros
05:14.17Sialiten"How do I write a macro?"
05:14.18JunkHead-Work...
05:14.20JunkHead-WorkShade.
05:14.26Jaerynyou type
05:14.28Jaeryna lot
05:14.29robotusch:D
05:14.43robotuschshould have seen our overgeared Kara run, it was hilarious
05:14.45Sialitenpeople type it wrong and it doesn't work and we wipe etc
05:14.50JunkHead-WorkI hate explainign fights.
05:15.00JunkHead-WorkI don't ming saying it, but typing it.... ugh
05:15.04JunkHead-Workmind*
05:15.13Sialitenit's like, "go to wowwiki.com/Illhoof and copy paste zomg >_<"
05:15.24robotuschOn Moroes, I was fearing an add that proceeded to run straight out of the room & reset the entire encounter
05:15.29Sialitenouch
05:15.35JunkHead-WorkI've seen that happen.
05:16.06robotuschOn Shade, we wiped because someone "didn't move" during Flamewreath
05:16.12robotuschOn Chess we wiped xD
05:16.16JunkHead-WorkOh we have a macro for that.
05:16.25JunkHead-Work"DONT MOVE"
05:16.27robotuschCurator was bodypulled (by yours truly)
05:16.32JunkHead-WorkAnd we spam it about 20 times in raid warning
05:16.35robotuschthe rest was pretty much oneshot
05:16.47robotuschI still don't get how we managed to wipe on Chess :/
05:16.54JaerynI made this http://pastebin.com/m742338f9
05:17.06JaerynThat's about as good as I get
05:17.36SialitenI've lost chess before
05:17.38Sialitenlol
05:18.45robotuschon the bright side, we did clear the lot in 2½ hours or so
05:19.00Sialitenvery nice
05:19.03JunkHead-WorkOur fastest run has eben 3 hours.
05:19.12SialitenI ran a few times with a t6 geared pally tank
05:19.15Sialiten2 hour clears ftw
05:19.15JunkHead-WorkThey usually take close to 5 due to..... stupid peopel.
05:19.19robotuschhelps a hell of a lot with 7-8 of the raiders in BT gear :D
05:20.05JunkHead-WorkWe always wipe early on. It never fails.
05:20.20JunkHead-WorkAnd I always say "well betetr to get our one wipe out of the way now rather than later when it matters.
05:20.23robotuschran with 2 healers, 2 feral druids as tanks with one of them going dps when needed, and the rest dps
05:20.38JunkHead-WorkYet it's funny, we can one shot every boss usually... yet we WILL wipe on the trash to attuman.
05:20.42JunkHead-Worknever fails.
05:21.15Jaerynlol
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05:21.57JaerynI kinda miss Kara.
05:22.04JaerynI can't be bothered to find a pug for it.
05:22.40SialitenI do miss Kara
05:22.42Sialitenboo
05:22.48Sialitenmy server fails, sigh
05:34.29ArideniRawr.
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05:53.24JunkHead-Workhttp://www.engadget.com/2008/05/29/dells-mini-inspiron-eee-pc-killer-revealed/
05:53.29JunkHead-WorkI wants it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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07:11.45michele_mgotta farm 10 primal mights AND 20 spellcloth T_T
07:12.38JunkHead-Workspellstrike?
07:12.58michele_myes
07:13.10JunkHead-WorkI need to do that on my shadow priest eventually.
07:13.28michele_musually I farm motes on the elemental plateau
07:13.36michele_mbut there are too many ppl there farming too
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07:15.29JunkHead-WorkI usually just build them up over time instead of farm.
07:17.01ArideniCould anyone confirm for me that DDR2 800 will work on a board which supports DDR2 667?
07:17.28ArideniIt just uh, "scales" down or whatever, right...?
07:19.23JunkHead-Workshould.
07:19.52ArideniWhat could be a potential reason it wouldn't work?
07:19.58Aridenioutdated BIOS?
07:21.11JunkHead-Workdunno.
07:21.23JunkHead-WorkIt's been a long time since I did anythign like that.
07:21.56Aridenisame
07:23.43robotuschwth
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07:24.24robotuschgo me, forgetting to install the tbc client :<
07:29.36Arideni667 costs about the same as 800 so I kinda think it's dumb to buy 667 when I could reuse the 800 in another machine later on
07:32.03ArideniYeah it's like 6$ cheaper with free shipping, =0
07:32.37LukianArideni, it should work, yeah
07:32.48Arideniwait a sec, 30$ rebate here...that would make the memory 13.99 for 2 gb!
07:32.53Lukianrofl
07:32.59Lukiannewegg? :p
07:33.05Aridenihttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146526
07:33.29ArideniYeah. Bad thing is, without rebate it's ~6$ more than DDR2 800 (because of shipping)
07:33.38Aridenifor 2gigs
07:33.42Lukianget 2*2gb 800mhz cas4 for $80 after rebates:D
07:33.55ArideniI'm on a strict budget!
07:34.21ArideniI'm reviving my broken mobo in my P4 system & it's forcing me to upgrade ram & gfx card to pci e
07:35.31ArideniLukian: Do you know how much juice an X1650 Radeon eats? I'm probably gonna buy a PSU also, =(
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07:37.36ArideniI'm lookin' at around 225$ total to fix it with 2gb ram, 500w psu, & a 512mb x1650
07:37.54ArideniIf it lasts another 2 years i'll be happy
07:38.26Arideni4 years strong otherwise
07:39.07Arideniwell, I'm gone to sleep now. Thx for your advice guys.
07:45.11robotuschGOD FUCKING DAMNIT
07:45.30robotuschthird time that mission fails, due to fucked up controls >_>
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09:34.26nebultaso howdy
09:34.36nebultaanyone run WoW under linux?
09:36.43emsy-at-workcedega/wine works fine
09:36.52emsy-at-workand it even rhymes
09:37.03robotuschhttp://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft_functionality_on_Linux
09:37.43nebultalol
09:38.07nebultawell i think i've just fallen in love a little too much with linux in the past 3-4 days, once i can figure out how the file system actually works and all
09:39.23emsy-at-work:)
09:39.30nebultaand i've read all those guides, but really dont feel like downloading the client, anyway i can just burn my wow folder(in windows) to a dvd and drag it into my linux partition for wine?
09:39.33emsy-at-worki had that madness few years ago
09:39.42emsy-at-worklinux from scratch ftw
09:39.49emsy-at-workspent liek 2 weeks compiling and configuring
09:39.50emsy-at-workwas awesome
09:39.53emsy-at-workand then my HDD failed
09:40.07nebultaboo =\
09:40.21emsy-at-worknebulta : i believe u can even run it directly from windows partition
09:40.27nebultabut thats half the fun!, you always have something to tweak/workon o.O
09:40.38emsy-at-worktho i have no idea what's the ntfs write support status
09:40.46nebultaya
09:40.53emsy-at-workbut should be NP if u have it on fat32 - taht wasy u can acces the client form both OS
09:41.01emsy-at-work(typos)
09:42.49nebultalooks like imma have to hop on xp and burn a few dvds(ntfs ftl)
09:43.02emsy-at-workmake a new partition just for that
09:43.06emsy-at-work10gb shoul dbe more than enough
09:43.07emsy-at-work:)
09:43.26emsy-at-worki had games in special partition so i could access them from linux too
09:43.31emsy-at-workaccess and write
09:44.09nebultaahhh, so I'd just set it to fat 32? so i could read the same gamefile from either os?
09:44.15emsy-at-workye
09:44.17nebultaset the partition that is
09:44.22nebultahmmm, hot
09:44.27nebultathanks =)
09:44.36emsy-at-workwell u can't modify the filesystem of exisiton partition with data on the fly
09:44.54emsy-at-worku gotta make the new one or backup data from ntf and then restore once u convert to fat32 i guess
09:45.23emsy-at-work*existing
09:45.28emsy-at-work*ntfs
09:45.38emsy-at-work(i promise i'll learn how to type on kbd)
09:46.08nebultahmmm, boot to a livecd(so nothing is mounted) then trim like 10g from my xp partition and make a new fat32 one?
09:46.25nebultathink that would work?
09:46.28emsy-at-workye
09:46.33emsy-at-worku can even do taht from xp itself
09:46.42emsy-at-workwith partition magic
09:46.46emsy-at-workor somethignsimilar
09:47.27nebultahmmm cool, be back in a bit then, hopefully able to play wow on the dark side =)
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10:12.49Teomyrwtf, windows xp, seriously
10:12.57Teomyri come home to find my pc displaying the login screen
10:13.14Teomyrand then "oh hai, installed updatez, rebooted btw"
10:14.45Mr_Rabies2turn automatic updates to semiautomatic O_o
10:15.11TeomyrI thought I had
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10:33.34robotusch*crosses fingers hoping that this particular download of the TBC client has the executables in it*
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11:01.25giskarduhm, just wonder how i can translate the site in italian
11:01.33giskard(hi *)
11:03.22robotuschI don't think you can, since they rely on the Blizzard languagepacks to do the bulk of the translations
11:03.33robotuschunless, of course, they added Italian languagepack at some point :)
11:04.40giskardah ok. even for the interface?
11:06.38michele_mi highly doubt there will ever be an italian version.. me for one don't even feel the need for a localized version of the game..
11:07.20michele_mbye
11:08.57robotuschgood lord
11:09.02robotusch30 degrees C this weekend
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12:00.14Lukian!i 27846
12:01.25_rane!i 27946
12:02.52Lukianhttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=27846  http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28584
12:02.56LukianI was hoping I could use both
12:03.01Lukianbut alas, they are mainhands
12:03.07Lukianwould be quite sexy to have both on
12:05.07giskarduse  gladiator's fist
12:05.36emsy-at-workhttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=29348 sexier
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12:11.17Lukianemsy-at-work, that's also a mainhand
12:11.29Lukianand the other two kinda match :D
12:11.39Lukianwhereas, that'd look weird with a paw / squid
12:11.45Lukiangiskard, meh, pvp
12:18.01emsy-at-worki'll get u nice fist weapons match
12:18.05emsy-at-workjust gotta find them, sec
12:18.23emsy-at-worktho they are not taht awesoem fo snh shammy as oh is 1.6
12:18.55emsy-at-workhttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=28315 http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28392
12:19.25Lukianneither has agi
12:19.32Lukiansurvival hunter
12:20.02emsy-at-workaha
12:20.21emsy-at-workwell get that pancake shovel from opera :)
12:20.43emsy-at-workhttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=28587
12:23.42Lukianyeah haven't had that event yet
12:24.02Lukianlol @ pic of gnome with it
12:28.36emsy-at-workit's even better than gruul's axe imo
12:28.43emsy-at-workfor survival
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12:47.30Lukianbadge axe is pretty nice
12:47.48kuinkala2hander?
12:47.55Lukianyeah
12:48.01kuinkalaMehmeh
12:48.03Lukianoffers more dps than the crossbow in a few cases
12:49.02kuinkalaBah, laundry day :( Cba to even eat, I'm damn tired
12:50.20Lukianhugs kuinkala
12:50.35kuinkalaAwww
12:51.11kuinkalaMeh, but laundry is easy thingie, just sort 'em, put 'em in the machine and wait
12:51.18kuinkalaThen put them in to dryer
12:52.12Lukianclothes line ftw
12:52.29kuinkalaAnd I think I need to vacuum too :s
12:52.38kuinkalaBut my weekend begins today
12:52.58Lukian:)
12:53.09kuinkalaThat means... Beer!
12:53.21kuinkalaDisturbed - Inside the Fire
12:54.31kuinkalaGinger works whole weekend, so wow and beer will be even closer to my heart, om nom nom
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13:01.21Lukianginger is your ladies name? :D
13:03.03ZiconShe probably has a weird finnish name, with umlauts in it. She IS a ginger, though.
13:06.05kuinkalaHer name it Tatja, and yes, she IS ginger
13:10.12Zicon... no umlauts?!
13:10.22Ziconbe disappointed
13:11.28kuinkala:(
13:11.34kuinkalaMy name has no umlauts either
13:13.24ZiconDAMN YOU
13:13.28kuinkala:(
13:13.39kuinkalaMy mom has umlauts in her name!
13:13.43kuinkalaPäivi
13:13.51ZiconOh god, ANOTHER Päivi.
13:13.57kuinkalaHaha
13:15.07ZiconIs that like the most common girl's name in Finland, or am I just incidentally bumping into it everywhere?
13:15.09Traetaco supreme
13:15.19kuinkalaIt's not common at all
13:16.15kuinkalaMaria, Helena and Anneli - those are common girls names in Finland
13:17.18ZiconIt seems every other finnish female I hear about is named Päivi. :P
13:17.31kuinkalaLies
13:18.32ZiconNot at all.
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13:31.37Traeman... 50-60 sucks powerleveling
13:31.39Traeheh
13:32.04Traewell to 58
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13:44.34kuinkalaNaked ginger ftw, thihi
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13:58.54sflwhen do rogues get vanish
13:59.32Ozgulican't recall
13:59.42sflguess i'll have to use teh google
14:00.06kuinkalaWhat in the name of buddha n' shit?
14:00.10kuinkalaUse wowhead!
14:00.14Tarris....
14:00.20Tarrishttp://www.wowhead.com/?spell=1856
14:00.23sflgoogle takes you to wowhead buddy
14:00.23kuinkalaOh, and at lvl 22 btw
14:00.38kuinkalaNoes, you got wowhead as your home page, right
14:00.46sflha, no
14:00.52kuinkalaI has it
14:00.54sfli have google calendar and email as my home page
14:01.00sfl5 min cooldown is teh suck
14:01.09kuinkalaGet talentz!
14:01.51sfltalentz make cooldown less?
14:02.22kuinkalaYep
14:02.25sflsaweet
14:02.29kuinkalaElusiveness or something, was it's name
14:02.34kuinkalaIn subfail tree
14:02.46sflwell, i'm going sub
14:03.05sflshould i not
14:03.20kuinkalaFor pvp it's most common tree
14:03.25kuinkalaFamous Skillstep!
14:03.28sflyeah, on pvp realm
14:03.43kuinkalaBut for leveling and pve/raiding and shit, combat is far more superior than Sub
14:03.52sflyeah
14:04.11sflpoison comes at 20 right?
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14:05.25kuinkalaYep
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14:07.09Ozguliassassination > combat imo
14:07.19Ozgulibecause combat is lolboring
14:23.42Lukianhow do I do a /target macro
14:23.53Lukianwhich won't target if the mob is dead
14:24.47kuinkala<PROTECTED>
14:24.49kuinkalaOr something
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14:31.00Lukiankuinkala, doesn't work :(
14:31.04kuinkala;o
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15:16.48robotuschhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/database/snickerspie_80041.shtml hm, yum :S
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15:28.06RufwonDid you miss me?
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15:32.27NeffiAny mods that are on - keylogger: http://www.wowhead.com/?forums&topic=25382&p=228397#p228349
15:33.08Neffiand http://www.wowhead.com/?forums&topic=25096&p=228378#p228378
15:34.15RufwonGosh I sure hope it doesn't become like the wow forums.
15:34.55NeffiWowhead has a much more dedicated team than the WoW forums
15:35.14NeffiThe WoW forums are just too large in scope and size to moderate on a sufficient level to stop these. Wowhead isn't that big.
15:37.03TecnoBratNeffi, thanks
15:38.18Rufwonhttp://www.wowhead.com/?forums&topic=24012&p=228386
15:38.32TecnoBratwe banned the user
15:38.38TecnoBratthose should disapear shortly
15:39.01RufwonThese guys actually have time to put in captcha now ?
15:39.12TecnoBratthanks :)
15:39.14TecnoBratthey must
15:40.03RufwonThat's crazy!
15:40.06NeffiWell, hope they do.
15:40.17NeffiOtherwise Wowhead's captcha is being read by programs
15:41.47TecnoBratnah, the delay in posts was too big
15:41.59TecnoBratif it was automated, it would of been quicker
15:42.18TecnoBratI just woke up, otherwise I would of caught it sooner
15:42.37RufwonRise and shine! I was up at 3hrs ago!!
15:42.42Rufwon[///]D
15:47.08lprichgrrr... not sleeping is teh suck.
15:48.27Nefficount sheep
15:48.53TecnoBratI know that feeling
15:49.18Neffihere's a Lua adaption of the popular snippet to help:  while not alseep() do sheep = sheep + 1; end
15:49.36lprichlol
15:49.59RufwonYou wowheads need to learn discipline. Sleeping is the best thing your body needs 7-8hrs at least!
15:50.21NeffiMy body needs between 2 and 12 hours, depending on how I play WoW
15:50.26Neffilol
15:50.26RufwonStop raiding!!!
15:50.29[Liquidor]This is simply amazing. IF you use your headphones and close your eyes you will start to feel like actually being in the barber shop. It gets better and better woot http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUDTlvagjJA
15:50.33lprichwhile time == 2300-0645 do sleep()
15:50.39NeffiEh, fuck raiding. I'm a DPS class. Spamming crap is boring.
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15:50.57Mori-nekoenjoys raiding
15:51.18NeffiYeah I'll probably raid when I roll a druid. I just can't raid DPS.
15:51.20lprichTonight I have an interview with a raiding guild
15:51.43RufwonI don't even raid lol! I just go on random occassions. I just like the leveling and the questing part of the game.
15:51.47[Liquidor]See this wikipedia entry for information about binaural recordings: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binaural_recording
15:51.56Rufwonr u serious? how much are they paying you iprich?
15:52.07NeffiI like arenas and world pvp, and the occasional battleground
15:52.17lprichI r serious.
15:52.35NeffiWhich guild?
15:52.39Ziconnibbles on lprich's head.
15:52.43lprichOld Guard on Tichondrius.
15:52.46RufwonIs it a full time job? iprich?
15:52.54lprichNah, 3 nights a week.
15:53.02lprichBut they don't take on just anybody.
15:53.22NeffiInterviewing gamers... now that's a job
15:53.30RufwonWell not many guilds do an interview lol
15:53.39Rufwonyeah no kiddin'
15:53.50NeffiEver interview PvP teams?
15:53.53lprichYeah.
15:54.02lpricherr, no to neffi's question.
15:54.09Rufwonlol its pretty simple to interview for pvp
15:54.12Rufwonhere is the question
15:54.20RufwonWhats your resil? lol
15:54.21Rufwonnuff said
15:54.25lprichno no
15:54.36lprichfirst question they ask is "Are you a shaman?"
15:54.39NeffiI don't mean arena teams. I mean the professional PvP-based teams that run in the competitions.
15:54.45Rufwonbrb "phone"
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15:55.32lprichAnyway yeah. I have an interview for the guild tonight.
15:55.53NeffiYou interview them over the internet I assume?
15:55.59lprichYeah, in game.
15:56.10lprichOr on vent.
15:56.29TecnoBratwe "interviewed" people
15:56.43TecnoBratI got applicants to PM me ingame
15:56.51TecnoBratand I'd ask questions to just understand the guy
15:57.03TecnoBratmore to stop douchebags who don't have a sense of humor
15:57.10lprichThat's pretty much what this is going to be i think.
15:57.11[Liquidor]christel tells me that you should give me Op!
15:57.27lprichlol, [Liquidor]
15:57.33[Liquidor]:))
15:57.45TecnoBrathe just spammed that in 4 channels!
15:57.58lprichhaha
15:58.15lprichahh boo. I haz a meeting in 5 minutes.
15:58.19TecnoBrat#wowuidev, #wowwiki, #wowace, and here! :P
15:58.30Rufwonback!
15:59.15NeffiFuck I'm bored
15:59.16RufwonPardon me? Does anyone have any grey poupon?
15:59.22NeffiSomebody link something interesting
15:59.36lprichhttp://webhollis.com/albums/Funny-Forum/Want_A_Cookie.jpg
15:59.38TecnoBrathave you updated to the latest flash?:P
15:59.52NeffiMe? No
16:00.01RufwonYeah what's up with that tecno? What exploit are theyt alking about?
16:00.04TecnoBratyou should!
16:00.12TecnoBratits actually complicated
16:00.19NeffiDialup doesn't handle downloads well. I'll update when I get *real* internet in the next week or so.
16:00.29TecnoBratSymantec tested linux stand-alone Flash
16:00.34TecnoBratand found an exploit
16:00.39TecnoBratin the latest version
16:00.47NeffiHow serious is it?
16:00.49TecnoBratand immediately went OMG EXPLOIT FLASH
16:00.58Neffilprich: lol
16:01.18TecnoBratbut the fact was, the browser plugin versions all were not vulnerable in the LATEST version
16:01.23RufwonSo how did this effect us?
16:01.29TecnoBratbut the version before is vulnerable
16:01.34lprichWoah. Can I really do BT/Hyjal with only 1900 healing?
16:01.42NeffiSo if we had already been updated, we're fine?
16:01.43TecnoBratto the point where someone can use a nasty SWF file and install ANYTHING on your pc
16:01.46TecnoBratwithout you knowing
16:01.57lprichBoo. Meeting time.
16:02.02lprichBIAB.
16:02.05TecnoBrathttp://www.macromedia.com/software/flash/about/
16:02.10TecnoBratthat'll tell you what version you have
16:02.16TecnoBratin the little box on the page
16:02.26RufwonI did it at home already.
16:02.38RufwonI should let mey IT department know about it too
16:02.40TecnoBratand you gotta do it with all of your browsers
16:02.43TecnoBratyou should
16:03.06TecnoBratSymantec found over 100,000 websites that have been exploited with an SQL exploit, and a bad SWF installed
16:03.11TecnoBratthat installs a keylogger
16:03.18NeffiHmm... frost mage or feral druid for pvp?
16:03.24Rufwonneither
16:03.25Rufwonlol
16:03.37Neffilol
16:03.55RufwonI'm glad i have symantec !
16:04.06NeffiI want a frost mage, but a druid seems like a better long-term investment given their flexibility. (I get bored easily.)
16:04.31TecnoBratRufwon, thats you assuming that the files the exploit tries to install is known by symantec :P
16:04.32Rufwonwhere can i find info about the explanation of this exploit tecno?
16:04.56NeffiI'd just go druid and get it over with, but now my friend's leveling a mage (and has a start on me!), and I'm considering just picking up my ~30 mage so I can hit 70 along with him, and we could double up for 2v2.
16:06.02TecnoBrathttp://blogs.adobe.com/psirt/2008/05/potential_flash_player_issue.html
16:06.16TecnoBratactually
16:06.17TecnoBrathttp://blogs.adobe.com/psirt/
16:07.02Rufwonok thank you
16:07.31TecnoBratalso
16:07.31TecnoBrathttp://www.symantec.com/security_response/threatcon/index.jsp
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16:17.34RufwonOk I let IT know... of course they are probably going to tell me they knew about it already
16:17.37Rufwonbullshit
16:17.50Rufwonlol
16:19.39Lukianwhttp://www.wowhead.com/?npc=15690
16:19.52LukianTecnoBrat, grants xxx rep with the violet eye possible for npcs like this?
16:20.28LukianI'm hoping it's 250 or higher.. cause I have 204 till revered (and thus, new ammo!)
16:22.01RufwonWouldn't it be nice of Rogues had some talent/skill were they can be immune to AoE effects for short period of time.
16:22.29Lukiancloak of shadows?
16:22.35Lukianis close enough
16:22.40NeffiCloS works against the most powerful AoEs
16:22.51RufwonI can't even fight those mana leeches in MT cause they do that arcane blast or whatever and I almost always die
16:23.12TecnoBrathttp://www.wowhead.com/?forums&topic=25547&p=228442#p228442
16:23.17TecnoBrat^^ too bitchy?
16:24.02NeffiNah
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17:01.31TecnoBrathttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=32375#screenshots:id=52882
17:01.33TecnoBratsexy yes?
17:02.06Rufwonoo its all shiny
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17:02.43KasoIts like the only shield in game that looks like it'd actually be quite protective
17:02.50alaytonpsht, who needs screenshots
17:02.54Georgelopesyeah
17:02.59RufwonThere was a shield i saw not to long ago and it had a flaming skull on it! i thought twas pretty cool ...
17:03.09Rufwoni forget the name of it
17:03.47Georgelopeshmm post BC?
17:04.21TecnoBratno no
17:04.24TecnoBratyou are missing it
17:04.31TecnoBratthe screenshot section is changed :P
17:04.36TecnoBratlightboxes = new!
17:05.15Kasoheh oh
17:05.24Rufwonoh
17:05.26Rufwonhaha
17:05.29TecnoBratahha
17:05.31Rufwonuhjj
17:05.36Rufwonhides
17:06.37Rufwonso yesteray i finally downloaded wowhead client
17:06.47Rufwoni hope when i get on this morning .. ill still have my account
17:06.49RufwonJK!!!!
17:07.27Rufwonok i messed taht up .. i said "this morning" when i menat this evening
17:07.36Rufwonso ill just shut up now
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17:09.38KasoSpeaking of the wowhead client
17:09.47Kasosomeone should really add HTTP proxy support into that
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17:13.15lprichhooray. I am returned.
17:22.44deltronooh the new screenshot viewer is nice
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17:33.21Lukian!p Adamantite Shells
17:33.25NizomiHolySheepy: takes forever to timeout
17:33.31Lukian!p Adamantite Shell Machine
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17:35.53Lukian!p Mysterious Arrow
17:36.36Lukian!i Mysterious Arrow
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17:56.30lprichlalalala
17:59.29kuinkalalalala
17:59.43Rufwoncan i post a referral link!
17:59.56kuinkalaIf you dare
18:00.15Rufwonim just askin if i could its not really advertisement or anything
18:00.43Rufwoni just want to get referral bonuses :P and who knows you all might get interested in it
18:02.06TecnoBratwhat is it? lol
18:02.33Rufwonits a mmo text based game
18:02.41Rufwonfootball
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18:09.33TecnoBratlol then no, not the right place :P
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18:09.46Rufwondarn!
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18:15.05ecstasiatext based football?  zomg boring
18:15.31Rufwonwhat!!!  no way..u trippin doood
18:15.51Rufwonits addicting man ive already dropped about 100$ on it lol
18:16.02ecstasiayou're insane
18:16.06Rufwonbuilding my players up n all
18:16.49Rufwoni never thought id pay 15$ for wow so that makes both of us crazy!!
18:17.33Rufwonlet alone buying the game :P
18:18.03Rufwoneating Tamales for lunch! Don't get jealous!
18:18.19lprichI'm gonna have a burrito
18:19.06Rufwonremind me not be around you lol i hope you have your own office
18:21.00LukianI'm doing some quick calculations, and is it just me, or is intellect one of a hunters highest dps stats?
18:21.05*** join/#wowhead Funkeh` (n=funk@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Ace3/BigWigs/funkeh)
18:21.12Lukian(assuming a battle where you use all your mana)
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18:23.42ecstasiaisn't that what mana pots are for?
18:24.20Lukianyou can burn through those pretty quickly too
18:24.36Lukian(especially in 10mans with wisdom or mana spring?)
18:24.41Lukianwithout*
18:29.37TecnoBratFun transitions :P http://wow.tecnobrat.com/menu/index.html
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18:31.25Lukianlet's say I use aspect of the viper (which I do when I run oom) that's 0.55*INT/5*10.2 (10.2 being the damage per mana) - that's 1.122 dps per int
18:31.41lprichoooh, ran kara last night, pulled 5 pieces of gear.
18:32.19lprichI got The Decapitator!
18:32.21Lukianother hunter stats are around 0.6 dps per agi, 0.174 per attack power, 0.4 per crit rating, 0.036 per -armor, 0.5 per haste, and 0.45 per hit rating
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18:35.12LukianIs my maths right there on viper? :/
18:35.40lprich2 man healing Kara ftw. Makes the run go soooo fast.
18:45.07Ozgulilprich usually running with only one?
18:45.50Ozgulior... three? Because 3 is clearly too much
18:45.55Ozgulione primal suicide geared priest can solo heal most of kara
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18:46.31alaytonalot of guilds start off using 3
18:47.17Ozgulioverkill much?
18:47.21Ozgulijust teaches them to slack
18:48.15ecstasiaif your healers only have like 1400 bonus healing... 3 healing is best
18:48.32ecstasiaif you have a couple with 1800+ 2 healing is the way to go
18:48.32Ozguli1400 is ok, it's about mp5
18:50.11RufwonI ended up buying http://www.wowhead.com/?item=31234 for 75g and I now kind of regret it. The 1.60 and the stam is nice for OH as a rogue though but as I picked up another quest I ended finding something  little better!
18:54.28ecstasiaisn't that a tanking weapon?
18:57.45TecnoBratwe used a pally, priest, and druid when we started kara
18:57.55TecnoBratI mean back in the day, when there was no arena gear
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19:00.34Rufwonwell i had a 2.6 OH
19:00.48Rufwoni was really gimping my dps
19:01.19TecnoBratI'm sure some of you have seen this: http://m1.2mdn.net/viewad/1848390/rspd03_160avail.jpg
19:01.54Rufwonyeah i thought twas rather weird
19:02.36ecstasialol
19:02.36Rufwonpeople im sure are clickin it
19:02.44Rufwonbecause they aer like WTF
19:03.16Rufwonfunny i just went to the rogue forum and there it goes ...
19:03.26Rufwoni see the advertisement
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19:11.16Lukiangood lord
19:11.23LukianIt has a native linux client
19:12.51RufwonAt what level do you start having fun at as a mage?
19:14.04Sialitenwhen you get ice barrier in frost?
19:14.40RufwonWhen is that cause I don't have a mage but I'm considering it as my next alt after I level my rogue
19:15.01Sialitenah ok
19:15.20SialitenI leveled 1-52 as fire
19:15.22Sialitenlol
19:15.24Sialitenwould not do again
19:15.37RufwonYeah there is no CC in fire huh?
19:16.24Sialitenthere is
19:16.34Sialitensome of the talent AoEs have cc effects
19:16.43Sialitendragon's breath does a blind type thing
19:16.47Sialitenblast wave dazes
19:17.13Sialitenfrost = more survivability, less downtime
19:19.22Rufwonyeah thats what im reading
19:19.34Lukianhttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=34581#comments:id=184217
19:19.36LukianLMFAO
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19:22.26Sialitenbut giant pyro crits to the face are always fun
19:24.01alaytonits actually a little disappointing
19:24.12alaytonpyro doesnt hit a whole lot harder than fireball most of the time
19:25.08Sky2042^
19:27.18Sialitenit doesn't, no
19:27.25SialitenIt used to at lower levels, it seemed
19:27.28Sialitennot so much anymore
19:28.50SialitenI use it when soloing but that is about all
19:29.06Sialitenand yay, I jsut got the wand from heroic UB!
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19:32.58LukianROFL
19:33.06Lukian"HOLY FUCKING SHIT DID YOU SEE THAT ROBOT?"
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19:41.03LukianCritcal hit of 42 :D
19:42.19lprichzomg so full of lunch
19:43.34Lukianomg this penny arcade game is FUCKING AWESOME
19:43.45Lukian(it's 6am)
19:44.31lprichI've heard the PA game is teh sex.
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19:52.30Gary13579http://xs127.xs.to/xs127/08224/smite506.png
19:52.35Gary13579Is smite dry humping that chest?
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20:06.26Lukianhttp://www.b12partners.net/mt/images/corn_porn.jpg
20:07.34lprichlol
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20:09.26lprichDK's being available for all races is kinda silly from a lore perspective methinks
20:10.18TeomyrDEATH GNOMES
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20:11.22lprichgnomes are just wrong
20:11.55LukianI'm curious
20:12.10LukianI haven't rolled a horde over 13, so I can make a level 55 horde out of the box? :D
20:12.24lprichLukian: On PvE server yeah
20:12.39Lukianit's not per server though is it?
20:12.40_ranelol?
20:12.55lprichper realm that you have a lvl 55+ character on already.
20:12.58_raneso PvE servers are actually starting to favor pvp players
20:13.05Lukianlprich, hmm
20:13.13_raneor nvm :p
20:13.18Lukianif that's true, it sucks a little
20:13.38lprichThat's what I've heard so far, but of course it's all subject to change.
20:14.15lprichPersonally I like the idea of getting a character all the way to 70 before you get to start a DK at 55.
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20:18.10lprichIt at least makes you kinda learn at least one class.
20:18.45lprichWhich is a huge problem while leveling... people that just don't know how the other classes work, at all.
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20:20.04WikwocketI think 55 is fair, if you don't know a class by 55, you're probably not going to get much better by 70
20:20.39lprichOr 80, as the case will be with WotLK
20:20.59WikwocketIndeed
20:23.17lprichabout 4 hours till my guild interview
20:26.09Wikwocketguild interview?
20:26.14lprichaye.
20:26.34lprichsome serious guilds actually check people out for things other than gear before they get invited
20:26.58WikwocketIn game, or in voicechat, or something else?
20:27.06lprichin game
20:27.10lprichor on vent, one or the other
20:27.33Mori-nekoMost guilds I've actually -wanted- to be in have had a trial period
20:27.49lprichYeah, this one has a trial period too.
20:28.06lprichIt are serious guild. Tichondrius are serious server.
20:28.15Mori-nekoI think it's a good thing, as long as they're not dicks about it
20:28.22lprichIndeed.
20:28.36lprichSo far the guys I've ran with from the guild I'm trying to get in have all been cool.
20:28.41WikwocketI think trial periods are essential
20:29.38lprichThe interview will probably be just a pretty informal chat to make sure I'm not a retard or a doo doo head.
20:29.55lprichAnd that I have at least SOME raid experience, which I do.
20:30.32Wikwocket"Pop quiz hotshot, Ilhoof is sacrificing a hostage... what do you do!?!"
20:30.57lprichGet heals on the hostage and DPS the chains, SIR!
20:31.11alaytonwonder what im doing in kara?
20:31.18Wikwockethehe
20:32.02lprichWe killed maiden so fast last night she didn't even do the repentance thing until the instant she died.
20:32.45lpricheveryone was asking "Is she going to do repentance?"
20:32.45lprich2%
20:32.45lprich1%
20:32.45lprichRepentance, she falls over.
20:36.37lprichAnyone using DBM or is it as horrible as I always hear people say it is?
20:37.45WikwocketI like DBM a lot
20:37.52Wikwocketit does a neat thing with timers:
20:38.08lprichBigWigs > DBM from what I've seen.
20:38.26WikwocketIt has one area for all timers, but when a timer is close to being reached, it jumps to the middle of the screen in larger size
20:38.35WikwocketBigWigs may do that too but I only know what we use
20:38.46lprichBigWigs does that too, yeah.
20:39.14lprichThing is, everyone that I've heard in raids says something like "Deadly boss mods is like 5 to X seconds off"
20:39.24lprichBigWigs is spot on.
20:39.29WikwocketWe have had it be off for Gruul's Shatters but that's all
20:39.33WikwocketYMMV
20:39.46alaytondbm has never been any more off than bigwigs has for me
20:40.30ecstasiai use both dbm and bigwigs
20:40.36ecstasiai use bigwigs for littlewigs
20:40.43lprich<3 my littlewigs
20:41.16ecstasiaugh, i just spent the last i don't know how long digging through the garage
20:41.17ecstasiaugh
20:41.29ecstasiagarage sales ftw
20:42.07ecstasialprich- last night in my kara run some nub aggro'd maiden early... 2minutes1second later she was dead
20:42.08lprichhehe
20:42.39ecstasia... how'd i get that blister?
20:43.19ecstasiaodd spot for a blister, on my left hand between my thumb and index finger
20:43.45lprichlast night in the kara run, I was the nub that aggro'd one of the mechs on the way to curator and died. I blame the pally though.
20:43.59lprichHe said "stack up on pally"
20:44.04lprichso we stacked up
20:44.14ecstasiaroflmao
20:44.21lprichthen I was throwing heals when he called to move back.
20:44.29lprichand i was 1/2 second late moving back :/
20:44.35ecstasiathe person raid leading was just diving into the boss fights without explaining how the guild did things
20:44.48lprichbut if he hadn't stacked us up so close to the pat in the first place it wouldn't have mattered.
20:44.51ecstasiaeven though we had some friends of mine & the warriors pugging
20:45.04ecstasiaand his brother was there... first timer
20:45.29lprichKara is so easy though.
20:45.35lprichGranted, we were all over-geared for it.
20:50.06ecstasiai remember back when you were in the 60's
20:50.55lprichnot that long ago really
20:51.26lprichI was still haxxoring and slashoring with dual wield enhance spec.
20:53.00lprichNow I'm all resto and geared for like ZA, SSC/TK, and very very very entry level for BT/Hyjal
20:53.17lprich17 more badges for my belt, and 100 for my leggings, and I'll be in MUCH better shape.
20:53.24Wikwocketis that what the guild your apping for is working on?
20:53.39lprichGuild I'm applying to is BT/Hyjal, yeah.
20:53.49lprichGetting geared out for SP.
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20:55.18alaytontwo weeks ago, my pally was in kara, s3, and several badge pieces - mostly the older stuff
20:55.29alaytondoing brutallus tonight >.>
20:55.50lprichYeah, in the last 3 weeks i've geared up from like, 1600 +heal to like 1900+heal
20:55.53Sialitennice XD
20:56.11Sialitenany mages on here with opinions on badge rewards for mages?
20:56.15Zicontouches lprich's gear.
20:56.28lprichZicon: Ooooh, that sounds naughty.
20:56.48SialitenI have 45-ish badges but not sure what to get
20:56.57lprichTrinket.
20:57.03lprichif you don't already.
20:57.05Sialitenyeah, nto sure if I should save for something else
20:57.11Sialitenlike the 75-badge boots
20:57.18WikwocketWhat trinkets do you have?
20:57.18lprichor 100 badge legs
20:57.32SialitenBloodgem/Glowing Crystal Insignia
20:57.41lprichbloodgem is good
20:57.44Sialitenyes, yes it is
20:57.45WikwocketYou could aim for the MgT trinket while saving badges
20:57.47lprichi don't know a thing about the other one
20:57.57Sialitenit's like +26 spell damage, quest reward
20:58.02Wikwocketit's a green quest reward, like 30 dmg plus click for damage
20:58.30Sialitenam also working on making the spellstrike set, but are the badge legs better?
20:58.47lprichhttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=29370
20:58.58lprichprobably one of the better trinkets for a while
20:58.59Sialitenyep, I know
20:59.08lprichthe healer one is nice.
20:59.17WikwocketThe badge legs are indeed better, spellstrike is very good though
20:59.18SialitenI know what the items -are-, just not sure how to prioritize
20:59.51lprichProbably other things like legs/belt/chest first
21:00.08WikwocketFor badges, I would prioritize badge rewards that are close to best-in-slot, esp if you don't have epics for that slot
21:00.26lprichoooh, yeah. if you don't have epics in the slot get badge loots for sure
21:00.37SialitenI think I will go stab the mage dps spreadsheet again and see if I can get it to work
21:00.45Sialitenit does not like me
21:01.33WikwocketIf you link your armory we can look at your options
21:01.59Sialitenthat I can do
21:02.00Sialitenhttp://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Misha&n=Wennette
21:02.17Sialitenand yes, I know it's not all enchanted properly yet but I am working on that >.>
21:02.48Wikwockethttp://armorylite.com/us/Misha/Wennette ahhh better
21:02.59Sialitenoh, nice
21:03.03Sialitendidn't know that site existed
21:03.32Wikwocketit's faster and lightweight
21:03.36Sialitenyes, yes it is
21:03.57WikwocketI can make a few recommendations; for real badge priority lists, you'd need to talk to a real mage
21:04.07Sialitenheh
21:04.15Sialitenyou're a fake mage?
21:04.21WikwocketFor necklace, at SSO exalted there's a very good one, and at SSO revered there is a great sword at least as good as your staff
21:04.26Wikwocket(I have a lock alt)
21:04.31Sialitenahhh I see
21:04.53Sialitenyeah, working on SSO rep as I can, between badge farming
21:05.08Wikwocketat Scryer exalted there is a great ring, or there's one for spirit shards if you like farming mana tombs
21:05.25Wikwocketoh there is a badge ring too
21:05.31Sialitenyesss
21:05.35Sialitenfused nethergon or something
21:05.47SialitenI have been working on CE rep for that ring
21:05.59Sialitenwell, the CE one
21:06.01WikwocketI guess I would focus on upgrading the greens and blues, so I'd say keep your tailored pieces for now, and get the pants too if you can afford the primals
21:06.02Sialitennot the fused nethergon
21:06.08Wikwocketright, CE is great too
21:06.21Sialitenmight go for the ring then
21:08.26WikwocketOH I forgot, I want to say there is a nearly-best-in-slot wand buyable for just 25 badges
21:08.46Wikwocketthat, or the Icon of the Silver Crescent, would be a great first buy
21:10.04Sialitenjust got the wand from UB so maybe I'd hold off on the badge wand
21:10.50Wikwockethttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=33192 is the wand, it is an upgrade from yours but not a huge one I guess
21:11.37Sialitenyep
21:12.10SialitenI wish there were badge shoulders
21:12.19SialitenI'm still using the stupid ones from the hellfire ramparts quest
21:12.59Wikwocketshoulders are an annoying slot
21:13.15Sialitenyes
21:13.20Sialitenwas just going to get the pvp ones
21:13.29Sialitengot the AB marks since I managed to win like 3 games last night
21:13.39Wikwockethttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=30925 is a reward for a lonnggg questline in SMV, very good for a blue though
21:13.51Sialitenyeah, I did the cipher of damnation on my druid
21:14.02Sialitenhave been to SMV a grand total of once on my mage
21:14.06Sialitento buy my flyer, lol
21:14.21Sialitenthose do look really nice
21:14.23Sialitenthanks!
21:16.38WikwocketNo problem, best of luck
21:17.57lprichmmm nom nom ZA shoulders
21:17.58lprichhttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=33489
21:18.21Sialitensadly I probably won't be seeing ZA anytime soon
21:18.36lprichThat's what I thought, and then all of a sudden I was geared.
21:18.44Sialitencurrently bumming off random raid invites
21:18.47Sialitenbecause my server is fail
21:18.59Sialitenno one needs ferals, boo
21:19.08Sialitenor undergeared mages
21:19.23lprichMy server isn't top of the food chain for PvE progression, but it's not the last either.
21:19.32SialitenI think we are pretty close to the bottom
21:19.38Sialitenno one has downed Illidan
21:19.48lprichThat's BT right?
21:19.50Sialitenyes
21:19.52lprichSad.
21:19.56SialitenI know
21:19.59SialitenTrust me...I know
21:20.02Sialitenso bad >_<
21:20.22lprichSo why not transfer somewhere else?
21:20.44Sialitentoo many alts, too attached to a few friends on my server to move somewhere else
21:21.17lprichwhich realm are you on?
21:21.20SialitenMisha
21:22.02lprichWith only like 15k people :/
21:22.07Sialitenyes
21:22.09Sialitenit is fail
21:22.25lprichzuluhed is fail
21:22.32lprich03/06, 2236 people
21:22.38Sialiteno_O
21:22.39lprichaccording to warcraftrealms
21:22.47lprichdunno how accurate it is though
21:23.34Sialitenyeah, but the top guild on the server hosts weekly pugs I have been going to, so I do get to raid a small bit
21:23.40Sialiteneven if it's just Mag
21:24.01lprichForget mag for the most part, except for eye of mag
21:24.09lprichsame with gruuls.
21:24.12Sialitenbadges are badges?
21:24.17lprichthere is that
21:24.26Sialiten20 slot bags are also awesome
21:24.28lprichbut if you're on a server that is mostly fail
21:24.48lprichI.E. nobody has downed Illidan...
21:25.23lprichYou're better off just doing Kara and heroics, saving yourself the frustration, and getting as much badge gear as you possibly can, IMO.
21:25.47Sialitenwish I could even be doing Kara
21:26.19lprichwhat's your spell damage?
21:26.25Wikwockethttp://armorylite.com/us/Misha/Wennette
21:26.34Sialitenit's fine for starting Kara
21:26.41Sialitenthough I meant more on my druid than my mage
21:26.52Sialitenmage is an "alt", druid is my main
21:26.57Wikwocketah
21:27.11lprichyeah, 713 is fine for kara.
21:27.19SialitenI say "alt" because I have been playing my mage much more since she actually needs gear and rep and such, heh
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21:27.37lprichkitty druid probably needs somewhere around 1400AP ?  I don't know much about kitties.
21:27.44SialitenI r bear
21:27.49lprichoooh
21:28.02Sialitenbut everyone is full on tanks
21:28.06lprichthat sucks
21:28.08Sialitenyes
21:28.24SialitenI don't really like kitty dps-ing so much
21:28.38lprichIt's like being a rogue, only not.
21:28.40Sialitenyeah
21:28.43Sialitenexpect
21:28.46Sialiten*except
21:28.52Sialitenmore fail, poor scaling
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21:29.20lprichYeah.
21:29.41lprichGah! GNOME MAGE!
21:29.43lprichruns
21:29.49Mori-nekotrips lprich
21:29.49Sialitenwith pink pigtails!
21:29.55lprich><
21:29.58Sialitenlol
21:30.14lprichIt just irritates me that Alliance got gnome to play, and horde didn't get Goblins.
21:30.22Mori-nekoIrritates me too
21:30.36lprichgranted, i pretty much skipped WC3, but WC2 was awesome
21:30.51Mori-nekoHorde doesn't have a short silly race
21:30.59WikwocketGnomes are the best mages, especially when they jump when casting AOE. Does more damage that way!
21:31.46Sialitenand then die
21:31.59Sialitenthough I actually met a healer who could keep me alive on AoE pulls!
21:32.02Sialitenit was awesome!
21:32.34lprichi can keep some clothies alive if i start at full mana
21:32.47lprich1.5second heals ftw
21:32.50Sialitenheh
21:34.10Sialitenthe rogue spreadsheet is so much nicer than the mage spreadsheet, blah
21:36.11lprichSo, I got like 5 pieces from kara last night, 3 off spec ones... Decapitator, some boots, and a belt I think...
21:36.18lprichAnd I have shoulders and chest from ZA...
21:36.27lprichand I still can't break 1200AP without soe totem.
21:36.44lprichgranted, I wasn't dual wielding because I'm not gonna pay to respec just to fool around, but yeah.
21:36.52Sialiten:(
21:38.00lprichDecapitator is cool because it gives me an instant ranged attack, with a pretty good range
21:38.17lprichI'll keep it with me for smackin' alliance on the isle during my dailies
21:38.26Sialitenlolz
21:43.26lprichI've started taking advantage of people being at low health, since they do it to me so much.
21:43.41Sky2042lprich: lol.
21:44.13lprichsrsly.  I'll be smackin' away on some mob while I'm at around 50%, and some mage will like, pyroblast me
21:44.21lprichfrom behind where I cant see
21:44.27lprichand can't get away.
21:44.32lprich:/
21:45.08lprichwhat's cooldown on hunter traps?
21:45.50Sialiten30 seconds
21:46.02kuinkalaWithout talents
21:46.06Sialitenyes
21:47.27lprichfrost trap > earthbind
21:47.50kuinkalaBeer > longdrink
21:48.11lprichwasted > mildly buzzed
21:48.50lprich>.>
21:48.52lprich<.<
21:49.02lprichThat's just the alcoholic in me talking.
21:49.34kuinkala<3
21:51.26kuinkalalprich: Any general tips for healing as a shaman?
21:51.43lprichchain heal! :D
21:51.56lprichwhat level are you?
21:52.09kuinkala62
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21:52.13kuinkalaBut
21:52.14kuinkalaNow
21:52.16kuinkalaSleep
21:52.19kuinkalaZzzZzz
21:52.54lprichlaters
21:52.57Wikwockethttp://elitistjerks.com/f47/t24796-shaman_restoration/ is a good reference
21:53.02lprichoooh yeah.
21:53.11lprichelitistjerks, how to heal like a pro
21:53.35lprichalso, google for 'resto4now' lots of good healing gear rankings for resto sham
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21:57.34lprichI think I just figured out why I was getting schooled for healing last night in kara.
21:57.47lprichI downrank to CH rank 3, which has penalty
22:02.43lprichRank 4 does not, but costs 30 more mana.
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22:47.40lprichAlso. I'm getting a puppy.
22:47.42lprichI think.
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23:17.15RawsOh man
23:17.18RawsThis is amazing http://www.joystiq.com/2008/05/28/guitar-hero-on-tours-disturbing-demo-video/
23:22.15lprichscaaaaaary
23:24.54RawsIf that isn't for real, I will be severely disappointed
23:30.31JunkHeadi saw a video for the new guitar hero last night
23:30.44JunkHeadit had a guy doing that scene from risky business
23:30.58JunkHeadthe tom cruise scene where he is dancing in his underwear
23:31.11JunkHeadBut he was playign a guitar hero guitar. it was really funny
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23:46.55TecnoBratYou are now saved to this instance.
23:47.12lprichYou are now saved to this instance.
23:47.21lprichI'm going home.

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