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04:27.56TecnoBratdude, that was the most fun I have had in MOUNTS
04:27.58TecnoBratMONTHS*
04:28.19Sialitenlolz, I just spent 3 hours wiping on lurker with the 2nd/3rd guild on the server
04:28.23Sialiten*facepalm*
04:28.59lprichgrrr, stupid people.
04:29.13lprich"Spout" means "get the fuck in the water"
04:29.32TecnoBratI just took my new mountain bike out on Hammerfest, which is like a pretty crazy trail
04:29.40TecnoBratthey have world class racing on it
04:30.03TecnoBratcrazy downhill
04:30.11TecnoBratit was so much fun
04:30.20TecnoBratI hurt like hell
04:30.22lprichI just paid 8g50 for a repair bill from an SSC that failed miserably
04:30.26TecnoBratbut thats okay!
04:30.43Lukianlprich, cheap
04:31.01lprichi have no idea what my repair per death is
04:31.06lprichbut it isn't too bad
04:31.10lprichi still have some blues
04:31.35lprichanyway, i must sleep.
04:31.42lprichcatch you all from work tomorrow
04:33.36Sialitenwait, Iprich, are you on Misha too?
04:34.05Lukianit's an L
04:34.11Lukianget a decent font you idiots :o
04:34.15Sialitenso it is
04:34.29Lukianhehe
04:35.15Sialitenah, 8.5g repair bill, lucky guy -.-
04:35.24Sialitenkay, so I'm a feral druid
04:35.30SialitenI got like no healing
04:35.34SialitenI healed myself most of the time
04:35.42SialitenI did more than half the healing of a holy pally >_<!!
04:37.23TecnoBratlprich, l2capitalizeyourfirstletterlikearealperson
04:39.13OlisonWait, what?
04:39.13Olison:o
04:39.59Sialitenwhat what?
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05:11.05robotuschI ponder the thought, who the hell decided that using webinstallers were some damn good idea? :/
05:12.26Lukian2.5-3g / death for me
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09:12.36Lukianrobotusch, microsoft?
09:27.15robotuschprobably
09:27.27robotuschtrying to get messenger installed, but the damn thing keeps failing
09:28.02robotuschon top of that, it seems like I'm going to have to miss out on a couple of security updates because they too refuse to install >_<
09:29.45robotuschon the bright side, everything else seems to be in working order :>
09:32.23Mr_Rabies2why do you want messenger ew :(
09:34.02robotuschbecause I can
09:41.06Mr_Rabies2hrm
09:41.16Mr_Rabies2how many of you write essays in MLA format often :o
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10:24.03OzguliShould I add wings to this?
10:24.04Ozgulihttp://koti.mbnet.fi/probli/c/IMG_0041.JPG
10:28.12Mr_Rabies2you could add tiny ones to explain how the stinger is being supported :O
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10:29.50MiyariBibi
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10:33.50michele_mhi
10:33.57[R]Timhey.
10:34.11MiyariHi
10:34.27michele_mhope you don't mind if I just idle here for a while XD
10:34.38[R]Timlol
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10:40.20marcimihello dudes
10:40.25MiyariHeya marcimi
10:40.37marcimihappy bday miyari
10:40.41Miyarihaha ty ty
10:41.12marcimiand thanks for the localized wowhead, it's great. I'm wounderin how I can submit some translated aricles
10:41.47MiyariHmmm
10:41.59MiyariSend an email to Malgayne at the feedback email about it
10:42.11MiyariThat way we can talk it over
10:42.30marcimiah, ok
10:42.40marcimithanks 4 the tip
10:43.16Miyarinp sorry I'm not more useful it's kinda 5:43am here
10:43.27MiyariAnd apparently the guys think it's cool to sleep.
10:45.03marcimihehe
10:45.18marcimiit's 0:45pm here ;)
10:45.41marcimitime to hunt something eatable
10:46.29robotusch:D
10:46.49robotuschEveryone's favourite bearorcat overlord getting older?! Unpossible!
10:47.02MiyariHeh, I'm 23 - be fair!
10:47.17robotusch:<
10:47.28marcimii'm 23, too ;)
10:47.36robotuschah well, another month and I'll be a year older as well :/
10:47.36marcimiwelcome in the club
10:48.47marcimimail is out, miyari
10:50.16Miyarity!
10:50.35MiyariWe'll probably talk it over today if I don't sleep all day then go out all night !
10:51.35BibiMiyari ignored me.
10:51.43BibiI think that's sad :(
10:52.47MiyariAw :(
10:52.56MiyariNo notifications on this client :/
10:53.05Bibiyeah, blame the client
10:53.07MiyariIt's a lot of suck but it's also not a bad client either, so what do you do.
10:53.25Bibiwhat do you do ? well, ignore Bibi it seems.
10:53.26MiyariIt can't autojoin or auto identify, either.
10:53.34MiyariI have to manually type everything every time
10:53.36marcimithany miyari. i'll update my wowhead-tooltip post to support multilanguage-links ;)
10:53.56Miyari:D
10:54.11MiyariI was going to ask you if you had a Twin Eredars confirmed loot table.
10:54.24MiyariThen I realized we have Twin Eredar loot recorded anyway so I don't really need it.
10:54.48Bibiso, you weren't going to say hi or ask how I am ?
10:54.56Bibi:(
10:54.58MiyariI'm hurt that you thought I was ignoring you :(
10:55.07Miyari(On purpose!)
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11:07.16marcimimiyari, check out my latest post in the wowhead tooltip sticy
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11:14.04marcimibye bye dudes, have to prepare the raid for today
11:14.08marcimisee ya later
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12:10.45OzguliMr_Rabies I added wings then
12:10.46Ozgulihttp://koti.mbnet.fi/probli/c/winged_demon_of_power.JPG
12:12.40Mr_Rabies2that works
12:13.28Mr_Rabies2i draw a lot of surreal/absurdist stuff if you're wondering why i'm not asking why the minotaur has a stinger and wings :P
12:15.58adashielMy new desktop: http://upload.wowhead.com/images/screenshots/82641.jpg
12:16.05adashielAzshara screenshot from Koblec.
12:20.45kadrahilso last night we were in hyjal
12:20.54kadrahiland i was about to misdirect azgalor to the maintank
12:21.07kadrahiland my misdirect clearly went off on the tank
12:21.18kadrahilbut when i went to shoot at azgalor he came right to me and killed me and reset
12:21.23kadrahiland so the tank had to pick him up
12:21.41kadrahilso i never got back in combat and tapped him for the whole fight and so i couldn't loot the bow stitched leggings when they dropped
12:21.44kadrahili cried :(
12:22.08OzguliMr_Rabies and 4 hands instead of legs... My realm's down and I got bored
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12:50.24Traekadrahil: :(
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14:33.55Traeso I could make a macro that tosses say:  Rejuv, Regrowth and Healing Touch on someone just by pressing the same button?  And the same button will cycle (based on the GCD) through said spells?
14:34.26MiyariI don't see why you would.
14:34.37TraeMiyari: :/  yeah...
14:34.52TraeMiyari: I want to 2box a rogue / resto druid end-game
14:35.32Traeproblem is... I'm trying to think about how I can do things like heal raids or 5 man content and still DPS on the rogue
14:36.16MiyariUse a keyboard macro
14:36.29MiyariThat the same button makes the rogue use sinister strike and the druid cast lifebloom lol
14:36.34Miyari= win
14:36.41Traeheh
14:36.50Traeyeah... not sure that's allowed by ToS
14:36.55Trae(or even feasable)
14:37.03Traeand no I can't spell
14:39.56Traehmm
14:40.03Traewonder if I had something like a KVM
14:40.21Traeif that would help... and hook up both machines to the same Display
14:40.22Traeheh
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14:40.54Traeand simply just have a key that allows me to switch between... :/  that doesn't seem optimum though
14:42.28TeomyrI've been 2-boxing using voice commander
14:42.41Teomyrworks rather well but is a bit annoying over time :P
14:43.54TraeTeomyr: hrm...   yeah.... I tanked Mana Tombs once and DPS'ed on my hunter.
14:43.58TraeTeomyr: but it wasn't fun.
14:43.59Traeheh
14:44.03Teomyrlol
14:44.06TraeTeomyr: that was with two keyboards
14:44.13Traeand 2 screens
14:44.16Teomyrbeen there
14:44.41TraeTeomyr: do you simply use one machine?
14:45.01Traeand run two instances of wow
14:45.34Traesfl: I always feel like, somebodies watching me....
14:46.07TeomyrTrae: depends. if i have to log on quickly, i start two instances of a wow config with reduced settings (my sound card doesn't like dual logging)
14:46.14sflmj for the win
14:46.35TeomyrTrae: but normally, i start up another pc and switch my second monitor to it
14:47.26TraeI guess I could put the screens closer together than I do... heh  right now they are a bit apart.
14:47.44TraeOnly problem with that is, it's hard to have two keyboards and 2 mouse next to each other
14:48.19Teomyryeah :/
14:48.23TraeTeomyr: heh... I could see doing a double stacked keyboard / mice setup
14:48.34Teomyrwhen i still used my secondary pc, i used synergy a lot
14:48.36TraeTeomyr: 1 key/mouse on top of desk, and other below the desk
14:48.56TraeI could see slamming my hands into the desk though
14:48.57Traelol
14:49.09Trae"What could go wrong?"
14:49.10Teomyr"CAST, DAMNIT... oh wtf wrong keyboard"
14:49.16TraeTeomyr: haha
14:49.31Teomyrhttp://synergy2.sourceforge.net/
14:49.32sfli'm a brick
14:49.34sflhowse
14:49.39Teomyrvery nice tool for controlling two PCs
14:49.50Teomyrbut totally unsuitable for controlling the camera in wow
14:50.04Teomyri wonder if that bug has been fixed yet
14:50.17TraeTeomyr: oooh
14:50.56TraeTeomyr: hot damn it's in Ubuntu too
14:51.27Traethis will be nice for work too actually
14:51.39TraeTeomyr: as it'll help me with browser testing
14:51.53Teomyri would still use it for dualboxing. however you can't change the camera in wow without it spinning around like crazy, which kills it for me
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14:52.34TraeTeomyr: I'd use macros and such I think... for a healer... I mean.. all they have to do is click green bars right?
14:52.35Trae;)
14:52.41Teomyrlol
14:52.56TraeTeomyr: make a bunch of full screen health bars
14:52.57Traelol
14:54.07TraeTeomyr: crap you gotta compile it on windows?
14:54.13Traeoh nm
14:54.38Traeewww.... April 2006?
14:54.57Teomyrsee
14:58.37TraeTeomyr: omg... heh this is kinda insane
14:58.37TraeTeomyr: trying to set this up that is.
14:58.37Teomyroh yeah
14:59.16TraeTeomyr: any tips on getting it launched quickly?  ;)
15:00.06TeomyrTrae: sorry, but i haven't used it for almost a year now :(
15:00.16Traebummerific
15:00.18Trae:)
15:02.03Traehttp://www.linux.com/articles/54628
15:02.06Traehaha
15:02.24Trae(I started linux.com years ago)  and I think this might be the first time I actually use it.
15:03.32Teomyrhehe
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15:35.52TraeTeomyr: I'm in heaven.... check this out: http://zzamboni.org/brt/2005/10/19/controlling-two-machines-with-x2vnc/
15:36.34TraeTeomyr: probably the same thing as the synergy, but much more up-to-date and waaaay easier to use.
15:36.58TraeTeomyr: course that's only if you have a Linux / Windows machine, but I'm sure there is a similar tool for windows -> windows
15:37.49TeomyrTrae: chances are there isn't, since X on windows is not very common
15:38.09TraeTeomyr: I'm not running X on windows (you can though hehe )
15:38.23TraeTeomyr: anyhoo... thanks for that help it sent me down a path to solution.
15:38.28TraeTeomyr++
15:38.58Teomyrty! if you find a nice solution, please tell me :)
15:39.31TraeTeomyr: yeah... this is the ticket here.  But, I'm running WoW (Linux - Wine) on one machine, and WoW on Windows on the other machine.
15:40.15TraeTeomyr: now I just need to move my displays closer to each other.
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15:41.30Lehanelo peeps
15:41.39MiyariHey
15:41.40TraeLehan: moo
15:42.47Lehananyone knows if blizzard confirmed that frostmourne will be in wotlk?
15:46.38Lehanany suggestions?
15:47.57Infinity-Xit's a major part of the game
15:48.06HolySheepyhm wasnt there some page with like "monsters who killed the most players" etc?
15:48.08Infinity-Xthey havent said yet if it'll be actually equippble
15:48.22MiyariBibi
15:48.31MiyariHolySheepy: They randomly stopped maintaining it.
15:48.36HolySheepyq.q
15:49.27HolySheepyoh ya, they always stop the fun stuff
15:49.41Lehanhm,ok.Let's talk about something else :-)
15:51.32Lehantalk,talk,talk guys!i wanna read
15:52.01MiyariMmmm
15:52.04HolySheepyread bash.org
15:52.10MiyariI need to know how many Badges of Justice Kil'jaeden drops.
15:52.22MiyariBefore I haul off and assume it's 3, like I'm going to do in about 2 minutes.
15:52.46Lehanread it already,even the russian version
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15:54.03WikwocketI don't think the number of badges was posted anywhere
15:54.12Wikwocketpeople were drooling over the other loot too much to notice
15:54.25MiyariI know, people making my life so difficult.
15:54.30MiyariGod is in the details!
15:54.36Lehancan the number be random?
15:54.38Miyarimakes it 3.
15:54.40MiyariNo
15:55.01WikwocketWhy do you need to know?
15:55.20MiyariSo I don't make the site display incorrect information.
15:55.25WikwocketAh
15:57.02WikwocketYou could PM or in-game mail someone in one of the half-dozen or so guilds who have killed him, I imagine they're the only ones that know for sure
15:57.12MiyariThey're typically rude people, too.
15:57.13Miyari:P
15:57.21WikwocketBut if other Sunwell bosses drop 2, I can't imagine him dropping anything other than 3
15:57.28MiyariAnd the half-dozen is actually 4, and only one on US realms I can access.
15:57.36MiyariYeah I'm not really doubting its 3.
15:57.55WikwocketOkay
15:57.58MiyariJust that nagging reminding me that I'm making an assumption
15:58.05MiyariAnd I hate making assumptions
15:58.12MiyariI like solid, proven facts.
15:58.46Lehanguys,do v remember he there was open beta test of tbc?
15:58.56Lehanu*
15:59.12TecnoBratMiyari, hahahaha
15:59.17TecnoBrat<Miyari> They're typically rude people, too.
15:59.30TecnoBratbecause you are SO nice when random people PM you!
15:59.37MiyariI'm not typical.
15:59.41Miyari:P
16:00.04kuinkala:)
16:00.06MiyariThat surprises people, too, usually one of the first few lines I get is something like "Wow, you're so much nicer than ___" or "You're nicer than I thought you'd be!"
16:00.11WikwocketLehan: yes there was an open beta for TBC
16:00.15Miyari"All the rest of ___ are stuck up"
16:00.16Miyarietc.
16:00.27TecnoBratWikwocket, what?
16:00.36TecnoBratit wasn't an open beta
16:00.39KasoIt wasnt an open beta
16:00.39TecnoBratit was a closed beta
16:00.41Kasofuck >.<
16:00.45WikwocketWas it not? I could have sworn it was
16:00.46TecnoBratjust a LOT of users
16:00.47MiyariA very bad closed beta
16:00.51Kasoit just was an very easy to get into closed
16:00.56WikwocketAhh that's right
16:00.56MiyariThat everyone with an email address got an invite to
16:01.01TecnoBratnah, open beta means anyone (I mean anyone) can signup
16:01.18WikwocketI think dozens of websites were giving away invites
16:01.24TecnoBratyep
16:01.46MiyariI'm reading http://www.lamag.com/featuredarticle.aspx?id=7016
16:02.06MiyariAnd it's fascinating
16:02.35Lehanwonder if  blizz will open beta test or they will just release the x pack?
16:02.39Kasoso sexy!
16:02.57Kasoi doubt they will open beta
16:03.32TecnoBratthey will have a closed beta
16:04.13WikwocketI imagine there would be a beta of some sort, to hold on to users as Warhammer releases
16:05.04Lukianhttp://armorylite.com/us/Jubei%27Thos/Slidarius <- what do I upgrade, I have 200 badges, (Note: I'm 3.5% crushable without consumables)
16:05.22Lukianor debuffs on the target
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16:08.16TecnoBratLukian, chest piece maybe
16:08.27TecnoBratusually you get the biggest bang for your buck there
16:08.29Lehanbtw have u seen ingame news message that there is no registration for beta,tho they didn't say that there was no beta itsel
16:08.46TecnoBratLehan, thats the way TBC was
16:08.46LukianTecnoBrat, yeah the sunwell badge one drops avoidance :/
16:08.58TecnoBratno registration
16:09.06TecnoBratyou just get picked randomly
16:09.16TecnoBratand then fansites get swacks of keys
16:09.18Lukianthe old (one sold in shatt) gains it if socketed correctly, but that means 2 epic gems
16:09.51LukianI do like the threat and stamina on the sunwell one though :./
16:09.56TecnoBratlol shoulders?
16:10.04TecnoBratI didn't notice those were the ones you had on lol
16:10.06Lukiant4 are the only paladin upgrade
16:10.13TecnoBratreally?
16:10.15Lukianyes
16:10.19TecnoBratWTF
16:10.21TecnoBratthats sad
16:10.26Lukianindeed
16:10.44Lukianthere's warrior epics in heroics, but no paladin stat ones
16:11.03TecnoBratgod I hate this site
16:11.11TecnoBratthey need to learn how to customize these tooltips
16:11.31lprichTecnoBrat: But I am teh lazy!
16:11.39lprichI don't want to capitalize things!
16:11.52LukianShattrath Protectorate's Breastplate gains me 567 health, 60 spelldmg, drops me 7 defense (I can part with that), drops me 2% avoidance (sad, very sad)
16:12.01TecnoBratlprich, wow
16:12.03TecnoBratthat was ....
16:12.07TecnoBratlike 8 hours ago
16:12.16Lukianhe was probably sleeping?
16:12.20lprichI know, but it was the first thing I saw when I connected. :)
16:12.24Lukianand replying to a highlight now ^_^
16:12.26TecnoBrathaha
16:12.27Lukianwelcome to IRC :D
16:12.38LukianI do that too :D
16:12.43MiyariI hate this site.
16:12.44TecnoBrathttp://be.imba.hu/
16:12.52TecnoBratthey actually added the gems into the tooltips
16:12.54Miyarihttp://www.dkpsigs.com/
16:12.55TecnoBratand they are wowhead tooltips
16:12.56MiyariLost your password?
16:12.58MiyariTOO FUCKING BAD
16:13.08Lukianhttp://be.imba.hu/?zone=US&realm=Jubei%27Thos&character=Slidarius ? :p
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16:13.20LukianLOL
16:13.25Lehanhm i saw post saying that one
16:13.26Lukianwow, that is CACHED and a HALF
16:14.03LukianYour report is in the wait queue. Current position: #116 *yawns*
16:14.04TecnoBratblizzard is stupid
16:14.04Miyarithe gear-o-meter's graphics look like vomit to me :(
16:14.13Lehanguy recieved invitation from blizz for playing 150 per week
16:14.14TecnoBratthey are limiting the armory to like 1 request per 2 secs
16:14.19TecnoBratfrom each unique IP
16:14.25TecnoBratand if you break that
16:14.27TecnoBratthey ban you
16:14.29TecnoBratfor 12 hours
16:14.37Lehan150 hours
16:14.38LukianTecnoBrat, hahah
16:15.18LukianError fetching data, the server returned an error.
16:15.34TecnoBratI bet they are banned
16:15.37lprichwhen it comes to imba, I usually just use the custom XML parser thing. It's much better than having it fail.
16:15.46LukianTecnoBrat, yeah
16:15.51Lukianlprich, that fails for me
16:16.00lprichLukian: That sucks. :(
16:16.12lprichIt's been pretty reliable for me.
16:16.48Wikwocketarmorylite.com ftw!
16:17.33TecnoBratWikwocket, it fails!
16:17.50Ozguliit doesn't actually
16:17.51lprichTecnoBrat: Worked for me.
16:17.55Lukianit has an overloaded database every second time
16:18.17TecnoBratwhat worked for you lprich?
16:18.23lpricharmorylite
16:18.35TecnoBratno no
16:18.44TecnoBratit fails cause it doesn't have custom tooltips
16:18.57lprichahh
16:19.07Wikwocketis that a problem?
16:19.50lprichTecnoBrat: l2capitalize! :P
16:19.59TecnoBratyes
16:20.01TecnoBratit is a problem
16:20.07TecnoBratit looks sloppy and is hard to use
16:20.51lprichWhy do people fail at lurker?
16:21.04MiyariSame reason people wipe in Karazhan.
16:21.13lprichIdiots?
16:21.25MiyariPerhaps.
16:22.01TecnoBratWikwocket, http://be.imba.hu/?zone=US&realm=Tichondrius&character=Morgir
16:22.04TecnoBratcheck out the tooltips
16:22.11Wikwocketsome people have problems with mobility, especially with dealign with water. The wow camera doesn't help
16:22.12TecnoBratthey are also using wowhead's powered script
16:22.21TecnoBratbut they made it have enchants and gems
16:22.29MiyariSkosiris wants me to ask how.
16:22.33lprichI got hit by spout the first time, because i went the wrong way. I was headed into the center instead of to the outer edge.
16:22.36Miyari-.-
16:22.43TecnoBrathow what Miyari?
16:22.48MiyariThey get the gems.
16:22.52MiyariThe enchants look like crap.
16:22.54MiyariBut yeah.
16:23.33TecnoBrathttp://be.imba.hu/js/moohandlers.js?0.0.8
16:23.37TecnoBratlink him that
16:23.58Miyaritooltip extras!
16:23.59WikwocketI like it either way, that way or the armory lite way. What might be neat is a Pawn-like stats summary in a web tooltip
16:24.12Miyaridoes this site like
16:24.14Miyarinot work anymore
16:24.14MiyariServed 10,202,133 audits of 1,636,268 characters till 2008.May.12 16:15 CET.
16:24.16Miyari...
16:24.29TecnoBratlol
16:24.39Miyariohhh
16:24.40WikwocketI think the armorylite idea is, if you know what the gear is by name, all you care about is, what item is it, what gems are in it.
16:24.53Miyariblizz ban queries?
16:25.34TecnoBratyes Miyari
16:25.46alaytoni refreshed a bunch of characters a day or two ago without a problem >.>
16:26.03Miyariit's US armory
16:26.26Miyarii like this guy's idea of using an app to have the user query the armory then upload the data
16:26.43Miyarithat makes about ten thousand pounds of sense if it's done securely and correctly
16:26.44TecnoBratme too Miyari
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16:27.23Miyarii hate this site god
16:27.28Miyarii hope its developer isnt in here
16:27.41TecnoBratarmorylite?
16:27.44TecnoBrator imba
16:27.58Miyarino raidaholics
16:28.02Miyarithough i notice they've adopted miyari pink
16:28.06Miyarihttp://www.raidaholics.com/index.php?m=guide&boss=kalecgos&z=9
16:28.10Miyaridefinitely a miyari pink imo
16:28.20Miyarii'm a new web standard of pink don't you know
16:28.53lprichyup, that's miyari pink
16:29.11Miyariits ok i copyright use of the color pink on a wow site
16:29.12Miyariwhere's my lawyers
16:29.28lprichhttp://be.imba.hu/?zone=US&realm=Tichondrius&character=Morgir
16:29.35lprichI love that i'm rated for SSC/TK
16:29.58lprichNow I just need a guild that actually raids SSC/TK so I can get gear from them.
16:30.18TecnoBratokay
16:30.19TecnoBratcorrect me
16:30.26TecnoBratit just changes the link color?
16:30.27TecnoBratlol
16:30.32MiyariI know
16:30.40MiyariPretty damn misleading if you ask me
16:30.49MiyariCertainly not worth wasting the screen space on
16:30.54MiyariOr even the time I spent clicking the button
16:31.05MiyariCause the site is still stupidugly.
16:31.13Wikwocket"Please choose which of these mildly annoying header colors to use"
16:33.57MiyariI need an estimate of Kalecgos' HP
16:35.27lprichhttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=29458  Do want!
16:37.30Miyari4586346
16:39.03WikwocketMiyari: http://wowwebstats.com/?search=Kalecgos is showing kills with 4.5M to 6.5M damage
16:39.13Miyariyeah I'm checking WWS but it's like
16:39.34MiyariThere's technicalities between the humanoid Kalecgos, the dragon upstairs, and Sathrovarr the Corruptor
16:39.44MiyariI need to mess with filters and compare multiple reports
16:40.43Wikwocketyeah
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16:45.54ChalisaI have a newbie type question
16:48.25Traeanyone have that DK talent tree link again please?
16:48.26Chalisacan anybody answer a question for me please?
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16:48.36chiisainot before you ask it
16:48.52Traechiisai: lol
16:49.12ChalisaI just hit lvl 60, and now my exp bar is gone, and I dont seem to be getting exp for things I kill... normal?
16:49.22chiisaiyou will need to buy the expansion
16:49.24Chalisahow do I lvl up from there?
16:49.25Chalisaohhhhh
16:49.40chiisaielse you will stay at 60
16:50.06Chalisawell  that answers that!   thank you
16:50.18chiisaino problem :>
16:50.21Chalisabye :)
16:50.32chiisaiI don't think the expansion is too expensive these days, luckily :)
16:50.40Chalisayeah  but I dont wanna buy it
16:50.47Chalisawas thinking of quitting the game anyway
16:50.51ChalisaI'm bored
16:50.52chiisaifair enough :)
16:51.08ChalisaI wanted to get to the highest lvl
16:51.20Chalisaif this is as far as I can get without sinking more money into it, so be it
16:51.20chiisaiyou've gotten to 60, which isn't bad at all.
16:51.36Chalisano  it's not  it's been fun
16:51.57Chalisathanks for your help  now at least I know I'm not crazy :)
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16:52.44TecnoBratchiisai, I don't think I would of figured that out so quick
16:52.52chiisaime neither
16:52.56TecnoBratI would of gone like "do you have any mods? any addons?" lol
16:53.03chiisaioh, haha
16:54.39chiisaiit isn't *that* obvious though, I could see myself asking the same question if I had been playing more casually
16:54.46chiisaiit should say
16:55.02chiisaiCongratulations, you have reached level 60!  Please buy our expansion. Please.
17:00.45TecnoBratyea, like a tip box
17:00.48TecnoBratin the middle of your screen
17:00.50TecnoBrator something
17:01.17WikwocketYou mean the credits didn't roll, "Congrats on beating the game"?
17:01.35TecnoBratif they were smart they would design a crazy GM system that sends you a tell "Congrats! You hit 60, do you want to hear about the features of our expansion?"
17:01.44TecnoBratupsales ++
17:02.18WikwocketUgh let's not put the GM's on commission ;)
17:02.48Wikwocket"For expedited unstuck service, please confirm your subscription extension for 3 months"
17:02.48lprichputs TecnoBrat on commission
17:04.52TecnoBratthats what a smart business does
17:05.03TecnoBrat"I see you are hitting the bandwidth cap, want a better package?"
17:05.14TecnoBrat"I see you are using all of your cellphone minutes"
17:06.17lprichhalp!  http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33332 or http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29458 ?
17:09.09TecnoBratneed the mp5?
17:09.37lprichYeah, but i would only lose like 3 mp5 after socketing
17:09.39alaytonfor a pally, za for sure
17:09.46lprichso the disc of mojo is probably better
17:11.09lprichand, it's the best I could get until sunwell.
17:11.24TecnoBratyea I have http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29458
17:11.29alaytonim wanting to replace mine with the supremus shield >.>
17:11.29Lukianyeah mojo is better
17:11.43TecnoBratalayton, you have a paladin?
17:11.44TecnoBratlink?
17:11.48lprichI want either one
17:11.52TecnoBrat@armory us korgath barbanus
17:11.53[TecnoBot]Barbanus's profile: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Korgath&n=Barbanus
17:11.54lprichaegis or disc, i don't care
17:12.00alayton@armory us gul'dan kittay
17:12.00[TecnoBot]Kittay's profile: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Gul'dan&n=Kittay
17:12.05lprichI just need to get rid of http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27772
17:12.07alaytonhow convenient.
17:12.14lprichBIO! bbiab.
17:12.41alaytonhttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=32255
17:12.44alaytonteh yumz.
17:13.28TecnoBratI need to switch off of mp5 whoring, and more crit
17:14.13alaytonthats what ive started going more towards
17:14.26TecnoBratyea see, if we look at you and me
17:14.31TecnoBratyou have 5% more crit
17:14.47TecnoBratwait...
17:14.52TecnoBrat@char us korgath barbanus
17:15.11TecnoBratcome on you piece of crap, lol
17:15.16TecnoBrat@char us gul'dan kittay
17:15.37alaytonyouve got 33 more mp5 >.>
17:15.40[TecnoBot]Barbanus, Level 70 Human Male Paladin (42/19/0):  Resilience: 0.00; Health: 7327; Intellect: 543; Mana: 10818; Plus Healing: 1970; Holy Crit %: 19.34; Holy Damage: 791; MP5: 145.00;
17:15.40[TecnoBot]Buffs: Devotion Aura, A'dal's Song of Battle
17:15.47[TecnoBot]Kittay, Level 70 Blood Elf Female Paladin (43/18/0):  Resilience: 28.00; Health: 9377; Intellect: 679; Mana: 12858; Plus Healing: 1951; Holy Crit %: 25.11; Holy Damage: 849; MP5: 112.00;
17:15.47[TecnoBot]Buffs: Crusader Aura, Greater Blessing of Kings, Gift of the Wild, Swift Red Windrider, Prayer of Spirit, Arcane Intellect
17:16.12TecnoBratnow you are fully buffed up
17:16.20TecnoBratso not sure what your unbuffed stats are
17:16.22alaytonsort of
17:16.43TecnoBratbut I would say we are close to equal as far as actual stats, just wildly different.
17:17.02TecnoBratwell, int, kings and mark alone is like 125 int
17:17.45TecnoBratI can't remember the int => crit calc
17:17.49alaytonill log in and click stuff off >.>
17:17.56alaytonits like 49 -> 1% or something silly
17:18.58TecnoBrat(Intellect/80)
17:18.59TecnoBratwow
17:18.59TecnoBratlol
17:19.35TecnoBratso its only like a crit and a half anyways
17:19.38lprichbasically int @ level should give you about 5% crit
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17:20.32alayton@char us gul'dan kittay
17:20.37[TecnoBot]Kittay, Level 70 Blood Elf Female Paladin (43/18/0):  Resilience: 28.00; Health: 8637; Intellect: 553; Mana: 10968; Plus Healing: 1888; Holy Crit %: 23.54; Holy Damage: 786; MP5: 112.00;
17:20.37[TecnoBot]Buffs: Crusader Aura, Swift Red Windrider
17:21.03lprichi have puny 103 mana regen without water shield up
17:21.28TecnoBratyea, so like 33 mp5 vs 4% crit
17:21.43alaytonim shooting for 40% holy light crit >.>
17:22.08lprichpally's aim for > 20% crit on heals correct?
17:22.26alayton20% is pretty weaksauce
17:22.36lprich20% is like, just starting Kara
17:23.03lprichmy crit is uber weaksauce. less than 9%
17:23.16lprichbut i'm shaman
17:23.24alaytonyou dont rely on crit for efficiency >.>
17:23.29lprichnope
17:23.39lprichI rely more on bit +heal and mp5
17:23.47lprichs/bit/big/
17:24.02lprichand if I keep gearing from ZA, haste rating.
17:24.25lprichwhich doesn't help efficiency, but helps me compete against other healers
17:24.58alaytoni needed a spriest + mana tide + pots and abilities on cooldown in order to make it through brutallus on the last kill.. because i dont have enough crit ><
17:27.00lprichyou need http://www.wowhead.com/?item=35750
17:27.39lprichI finally got mine.  Expensive little bastard, but well worth it.
17:27.50TecnoBrat20% is like .. you don't have to try to get 20%
17:28.09TecnoBrat20% is like a fully raid buffed pally with no crit gear
17:28.10lprichYeah, pally should have 20% easy.
17:28.48lprichIf I had 20% on my shaman, everone would have Ancestral Fortitude all the time.
17:29.32TecnoBratI can get like 165 mp5 unbuffed
17:29.38TecnoBratactually more like 170
17:29.41TecnoBratwith other gear
17:29.49TecnoBratand still have 20% crit raid buffed
17:29.51lprichI wish I was that high. I can -maybe- hit like 120
17:30.11TecnoBratthats like using the 16mp5 trinket from onyxia
17:30.19TecnoBratlol
17:31.56lprichhehe
17:34.35lprichso, imba doesn't take into account the enchants you have, other than to tell you that you have the right/wrong ones
17:34.40lprichor no enchant at all.
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17:43.24lprichneed to enchant my cloak I think.
17:43.34lprichsubtlety or resistances, not sure which to do.
17:44.18afkafkaimo subtlety is better if only because you benefit all the time
17:45.06lprichEither one would be applicable, but true. Subtlety works all the time.
17:47.06lprichDamn. I need 100 badges for my chest.
17:47.44lprichhttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=34930 vs http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33469
17:47.57lprichReally not much of a comparison, the badge gear is better.
17:48.32lprichIf I had a lot of spell haste the ZA gear would be better, but I don't.
17:48.56Traehey anyone here know about views...  meaning setting keybindings to different saved views?
17:49.27lprichWhen you say views I think SQL views
17:49.32Traeheh
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17:54.39lprichugh. sooo many badges to get.
17:54.43lprichThe badge gear is too good.
17:54.54lpricha lot of it is same ilvl as like, bt gear
18:00.34lprichOr at least ssc/tk
18:12.18Wikwocketlprich: there is no great caster enchant, I prefere resists since usually you can eliminate the need for armor or subtlety by careful play
18:12.29Wikwocket(for cloaks I mean)
18:12.37kuinkalaSubtlety
18:13.00lprichas a healer, usually dishing out LOTS of heals, and therefor generating quite a lot of threat, subtlety would be nice.
18:13.58lprichdepending on the fight though, resistances would also be highly useful.
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18:14.14lprichI think what I'll do is get subtlety, and get a different cloak cor resistances.
18:14.21lpricherr, for.
18:14.28WikwocketI find healer threat to be mostly a non-issue on bosses, except for aggro wipes, where you need to watch your actions anyway
18:14.36WikwocketBut YMMV
18:14.49lprichindeed.
18:15.01lprichthe tough part on aggro wipes is usually the raid needs healed
18:15.40lprichso you either end up healing, or you have to make sure your raid is smart enough to save pots and healthstones for the aggro wipes
18:16.02Wikwocket<3 Prayer of Mending
18:16.22lprich<3 chain heal and Earth Shield
18:16.50Wikwockettrades Lightwell for Earth Shield
18:16.54lprichI've noticed lately that even though I'm less geared than lots of healers out there, I heal way more because of chain heal.
18:17.07kuinkalaOrly
18:17.10lprichand the fact that i actually pay attention in raids
18:17.10kuinkalaIt's like a cheat
18:17.50lprichdruids sometimes outheal me
18:18.02lprichbut usually not by much unless they are really well geared
18:18.21lprichand i'm nearly always ahead of pally and priest healers
18:18.46WikwocketChain heal, lifebloom, and cicle of healing all tend to show more effective healing since they have instant or reactive components
18:19.24lprichyeah.
18:19.41lprichthe cool thing about chain heal too, is it counts as 3 direct healing spells if it hits three people
18:20.01lprichwhich means, any trinkets / neck that has a proc, can proc off ANY of the bounces
18:20.59Wikwockethttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=23862 ftw
18:21.28lprichI think I have one of those.
18:21.52lprichHad, rather.
18:24.50*** join/#wowhead VanCleef (i=Peon@hoas-fe12dd00-210.dhcp.inet.fi)
18:26.34lprichso, 275 badges to get the stuff I want. :/
18:26.56lprichthen probably another 150 for http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34896
18:27.07lprichbecause it's just plain awesome
18:28.14lprichthough http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30108 is roughly equivalent
18:33.54lprich@stats
18:34.00MartinThunderStats Updated: http://wow.tecnobrat.com/ircstats/wowhead.html
18:35.33lprichsoon I shall be #1
18:35.46lprichUnless Miyari quits being all busy with real life wowhead stuff.
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18:36.54lprichoooh, taking quotes out of context: "Raws, I want you to be my wife"  "I can imagine it wouldn't be fun"
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18:39.49lprichBah. TecnoBrat gave me negative karma.
18:40.41lprichmonologues
18:40.54kuinkalalalala
18:41.32TecnoBratSLOWHEAD
18:41.47Cad|GoogleIOTECNOBRAT
18:41.58TecnoBratCAD
18:41.58Cad|GoogleIOsave me from the smell of 10,00 unwashed nerds.
18:42.01TecnoBratHows the show?
18:42.05TecnoBrathaha
18:42.13Cad|GoogleIOThe wifi is getting mauled
18:42.21TecnoBratrofl
18:42.27TecnoBratno surprise there
18:42.38Cad|GoogleIOi have a 400ms lag between when i type something in my ssh terminal and when it displays
18:42.43TecnoBratouc
18:42.45TecnoBratouch*
18:43.12Cad|GoogleIOI don't think anyone expected this many people
18:43.21lprichthat's a lot of wifi
18:43.22Cad|GoogleIOi'm on the floor atm because all the seats are filled
18:43.55kuinkalalprich: What totems should I drop when I heal instances? Not very good gear for resto, at least Mana Spring, I assume
18:43.57Cad|GoogleIOthe keynote room could easily fit several thousand, and people were standing in the door.
18:44.16lprichkuinkala: Depends on the group you're in and weather you have a pally or not.
18:44.24TecnoBratlol
18:44.46kuinkalaLollior tank
18:44.49lprichif you have a pally and you're in a caster DPS group, you drop wrath and mana
18:44.51kuinkalaa.k.a. warrior
18:45.18lprichI'll drop WF if I have at least 3 melee, otherwise it's wrath and mana
18:45.46lprichif you get so unlucky in a raid as to not have a paladin, you end up being asked to drop tranquil and mana
18:45.49lprich:/
18:46.20kuinkalaSetup is me, warrior tank, "dps" warrior, warlock and a feral druid :s
18:46.21lprichbut for serious, a raid without at least one paladin is fail.
18:46.27TecnoBratCad|GoogleIO, good so far though?
18:46.32Cad|GoogleIOoh very
18:46.36TecnoBratwhats their "big thing"?
18:46.47Cad|GoogleIOThere's 6 big things.
18:46.48lprichkuinkala: probably WF then, and mana.
18:46.57lprichUnless you really need that extra 101 healing.
18:47.07kuinkalaI really need it, my +healing sucks
18:47.18lprichwrath and mana it is then.
18:47.25kuinkalaMy resto pieces are piece of shits
18:47.31lprichlink?
18:47.38Cad|GoogleIOthey have a full itinerary for 6 categories: AJAX/JavaScript, App Engine, OpenSocial, Android, Google APIs, and Maps
18:47.51WikwocketWF will add a lot of dps to the warrior and threat to the tank, is all
18:48.21Cad|GoogleIOI'm bouncing between AJAX sessions and API sessions.
18:48.29Cad|GoogleIOas well as google web toolkit
18:48.34lprichWikwocket: the same could be said for wrath with a pally tank and at least one caster dps
18:48.59lpricha lot of times I'll drop what -I- want to buff myself unless someone complains.
18:49.08lprichBut i'm at 1901 unbuffed +heal
18:49.17Cad|GoogleIOow ow ow ow my foot fell asleep
18:49.29lprichso for heroics I don't really need WoA
18:49.38lprichnor in kara
18:49.53lprichit's nice when I can use it though.
18:51.14Cad|GoogleIO$#@$@#$WE my laptop screen won't stay in one place
18:52.22Wikwocketlprich: If there are caster dps and resto shamans in the tank group, there may be bigger questions than what are the best totems to drop :)
18:54.46lprichI've been resto shaman in tank group a couple times, but only because i was the only shaman, and it was tank/melee dps group
18:54.49lprichthey wanted WF
18:55.15lprichlunch time!
18:55.28WikwocketIn my raids, we healers steal the resto shammies for mana totems ;)
18:55.55lprichmana tide/spring +spriest +WoA in the healer groups, IMO.
18:56.09lprichanyway, lunch.
18:59.43WikwocketThe casters steal the shadow priests, they complain louder than us...
19:20.30Lukiangoddamit, another episode of BSG in which "nothing" happens
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19:41.13JoltI hate Dr.Boom -_-
19:46.20OzguliJolt why?
19:46.28Ozgulibest npc ever
19:48.47*** join/#wowhead Kaso (n=Kaso@resnet22.nat.lancs.ac.uk)
19:50.38JoltOzguli: hehe, i don't like his tnt's ;P but the quest is finally done ^^
19:52.33Jolt.. question to druids oranyone that can help me...
19:52.41JoltThis item is it only for hordes ? http://www.wowhead.com/?item=35360
19:54.46deltronyes
19:54.50deltronthere's an alliance version
19:56.00JoltReally :)?
19:56.14*** join/#wowhead Kaso (n=Kaso@resnet22.nat.lancs.ac.uk)
19:56.19Jolthm the alliance version is Honor Hold right?
19:58.03adashielhttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=35469
19:58.28JoltYaay!
19:58.52JoltThen will i have a nice robe when i ding 70 then because i am honored with HH :)
20:01.00JoltHehe can't belive this i am so close to lv 70 with my second char
20:05.10*** join/#wowhead Kaso| (n=Kaso@resnet22.nat.lancs.ac.uk)
20:05.32lprichWikwocket: Depends on the raid leader really, and if there is more than one spriest or not.
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20:08.20lprichit's Cheese!
20:08.26lprichwhat's up Kaso ?
20:08.28deltrondoes anyone remember the site that's like wowjutsu?
20:08.56Kasowierdass ethernet problems are up
20:09.06lprichThat sucks.
20:09.47Kasofor some reason windows was failing to understand dns replied correctly down one of my two connections
20:10.16Kasoand when the other was unplugged my dns failed, even though the requests were coming back (packet sniffing)
20:10.29Kasoand wiredly xchat could do dns requests, i wonder if it has its own dns client?
20:10.31lprichKaso: Do you have two default gateways?
20:10.52lprichBecause that would Seriously Break Shit(TM).
20:11.07lprichNo matter what OS you're on.
20:11.36Kasoi think the problem was something along those lines
20:11.59Kasoi was sharing one of the ethernet lines over ICS in windows to my wifi card in p2p mode
20:12.28Kasothe other line was the one i was using. both were plugged into the same router
20:12.36Kasoa rather silly setup to begin with really
20:13.14lprichahh, so two nics on the same subnet, same default gate, but one of them bridged to your ICS shared wifi card?
20:13.39Kasoyah
20:13.47lprichYeah. That's less than optimal.
20:14.17Kasothe idea was that all my traffic would run down one line, and all my wifi traffic down another for ease of checking it out with wireshark, but thinking about it, probally was the cause of my issue
20:14.36lprichYeah.
20:15.19lprichYou should be able to do it with just one wired nic, I think. Bridge it to your wifi, or rather, bridge your wifi to the wired.
20:15.40lprichmight work out better, if you absolutly must share wifi via your workstation.
20:15.52Joltone level left to 70!
20:15.53Jolt:O
20:16.22Kasoi cant really afford to buy more hardware atm so im stuck with my wirelessless router.
20:20.15lprichThat's a bummer.  Wish I had more insight for ya, but I've avoided windows ICS for a long time.
20:21.07Joltsigh, longest level left grr :(
20:21.18Joltbut ill make it before the release wotlk atleast! <3
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20:21.48lprichJolt: You could hit 70 and gear out in T6 before WotLK if you really worked at it.
20:22.12Joltlprich: I'd rather hit 70 and get fully blued, and a few epix :)
20:22.32lprich:)
20:22.52JoltI am just happy to have a second 70 :o
20:23.41lprichI think my next 70 will be my mage, who is lvl 52 right now.
20:24.16JoltI never ever thought i'd get another char this close to 70XD
20:24.21Jolt<- slow slow slow
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20:27.55Rufwondid u miss me?
20:28.03lprichDon't we always?
20:28.09lprichNow, who are you? :P
20:28.10Rufwonbunch of liars
20:28.27Rufwonfirst time on irc .. rufwon .. from the forums that annoying guy
20:28.35Rufwonwell sometimes
20:28.41lprichThat really narrows it down. lol
20:29.00Rufwonroffles
20:29.53lprichoooh, damnit. I just joined Cad|GoogleIO in the 'my foot fell asleep' club
20:36.54Rufwonsings "That's the sound of your braincracking.... "
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20:40.40lprichhehe
20:44.23lprichI really hope I get into Old Guard.
20:44.41lprichThey are recruiting a resto shaman, 1900 healing minimum, which I have.
20:45.05lprichAnd they are currently raiding BT/Hyjal, ranked like #24 on Tichondrius.
20:46.45JunkHeadhopefully the guild I am in kills mother this week
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20:52.56lprichHopefully I can get some new gear from ZA this week.
20:53.01lprichAnd the shield from Mag
20:53.35craCkpotHopefully the guild I am in kills something this week.
20:53.51craCkpotWe took a big hit when AoC came out...
20:54.00WikwocketHopefully the guild I am in gets enough people to log in to raid this week.
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20:54.13RufwonI'm no longer in a guild and haven't been on one for awhile. Everyone that I seem to go to dies. I think it's me.
20:54.15craCkpotThat is our problem as well Wikwocket.
20:54.45craCkpotWe started to progress quickly through SSC and TK, and then AoC came out, and things slowed to a crawl.
20:55.01RufwonJust hang in there. I'm not hearing so great things about AoC.
20:55.47craCkpotI played it, didn't care much for it.
20:56.15RufwonI also heard you need top notich computer to run it smoothly.
20:56.24craCkpotA lot of guilds on my realm (Bleeding Hollow, US) took a hit from AoC.  One of the top guilds, Ancients Way, disbanded because of AoC.
20:56.46craCkpotRunning the game wasn't an issue for my computer, I just didn't care for gameplay.  It needs a lot of work.
20:57.11WikwocketAoc is transient, but there's also warhammer coming
20:57.27RufwonSee I don't know why people do that...  I wait and see if it's worth it first before purhcasing it when it comes out
20:57.45craCkpotI'm generally not an MMO type person, generally I play FPS.  There's just something about WoW that keeps me playing.
20:57.45RufwonJust like windows vista when it came out...
20:57.52craCkpotVista x64 here =D
21:00.25RufwonI don't have vista
21:00.28RufwonI don't think I want it
21:00.38Rufwonnot yet at least till sp2- sp3 comes out for it
21:00.46RufwonI'm enjoying my xp pro right now ..
21:01.41craCkpotI started with Vista 32-bit, but my computer has 4gb of RAM, and I got tired of it only using ~3.25gb.  So when I reformatted one night, I installed x64.
21:01.47craCkpotHaven't had any problems with it.
21:02.35RufwonYour computer is probably Vista ready. Mine is a bit ancient but then again anything you buy as upgrade now it will be ancient 6 months later.
21:03.20craCkpotIntel Core 2 E6600, 4gb corsair xms2, 8800gts
21:03.33craCkpotnothing spectacular, but it gets the job done.
21:03.36craCkpotand dx10 is pretty =D
21:04.21Rufwonyeah im not even close to what u have
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21:05.14Rufwonamd 64 +3200 / 2gb ram kingston 200mhz lol / nvdia 7600gts
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21:05.22craCkpotyikes on the ram
21:05.34Rufwonit runs like a champ! lol
21:05.46craCkpotas long as it runs whatever games you play, then its all good
21:06.00craCkpotunfortunately, the games i like to play are resource hogs...
21:06.08craCkpotgo go assassin's creed
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21:06.16Teomyr*cough* wow *cough*
21:06.18Rufwonim still on agp so you can just imagine the years on this motherboard    ;; k8n deluxe
21:06.37craCkpotmsi?
21:06.48craCkpoterm no, asus?
21:06.52Rufwonasus yes
21:06.55Tarrisk8n is an asus
21:07.12Tarrishad one long long time ago  :-)
21:07.17craCkpoti love asus
21:07.30craCkpotim using the p8n32-e sli
21:07.38Rufwonit works thats all i have to say lol! im tempted to buy a new mobo but then id have to buy new ram and new video card ..
21:07.56Rufwonim not rich either ...
21:08.06Rufwoni got all this on a 24inch monitor tho .. beat that!!
21:08.13Tarrisif it works, why bother replacing it  :-)
21:08.19craCkpot19" viewsonic vx924
21:08.36craCkpothttp://www.crackpot.us/?nav=computer
21:08.42Rufwongot a samsung 3000:1 ratio
21:08.46craCkpotthats my computer...i think its updated for the most part
21:09.15Teomyri like my 7900GTX, but it's dying :(
21:09.34Rufwonahh g11 keyboard? thats what i got
21:09.38kadrahilslaps Raws around a bit with a large trout
21:09.39craCkpotg15*
21:09.42malikeyesupposedly there is a "head enchant" whith thrallmar rep
21:09.47malikeyeanyone know anything about that ?
21:09.49Rufwong15??!?!? it doesn't have the display??!
21:09.49malikeyea
21:09.53malikeyea healing enchant
21:10.00craCkpotg15 has the display, g11 doesn't (i think)
21:10.09craCkpotyes malikeye
21:10.12Rufwoni have g11 it looks just like urs
21:10.18craCkpotthrallmar or honor hold
21:10.32craCkpotyeah they look similar
21:10.34malikeyeI don't see it mentioned in wowhead
21:10.38craCkpoti couldn't live w/o my lcd display
21:11.06Rufwonyeah no kiddin ..i can't live with out both of mine lol
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21:11.23craCkpotmalikeye: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29190
21:12.12craCkpotwoa my thread about my wowhead tooltip php script has 6k+ hits
21:12.19craCkpoti feel special, lol
21:12.49malikeyeahh, thanks craCkpot
21:12.55malikeyewonder if you can re-use that
21:12.56craCkpotnp
21:12.58TecnoBratmalikeye, http://www.wowhead.com/?items=0.6&filter=cr=17;crs=947;crv=0
21:13.05TecnoBratits there!
21:13.21lprichglyph of renewal, nom nom
21:13.24craCkpotno, once you add it to a head-slot, it goes away
21:13.34*** join/#wowhead Keya (n=pschrine@xdsl-213-196-221-74.netcologne.de)
21:13.34malikeyeI've never seen a glyph before
21:13.38malikeyecan you buy another though ?
21:13.41craCkpotyes
21:13.51lprichthey are just like spellthread
21:13.59craCkpotyou can have as many as you like
21:14.03lprichor the shoulder enchants
21:14.16craCkpoti always keep some for my lock in my bank in case i get a new item
21:14.27malikeyecool, learn something new everyday :)
21:14.36craCkpotthat's the way to live =D
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21:15.36TecnoBratmalikeye, browse that category
21:15.45TecnoBrathttp://www.wowhead.com/?items=0.6
21:16.02TecnoBratarmor kits, scopes, etc
21:16.07TecnoBratthose are all the same mechanic
21:17.50lprichPermanent Item Enhancements
21:18.20kuinkalaWhat's the fastest way to Stranglethorn from Auberdine?
21:18.39RufwonIve ran mana tombs like  11 times already and this dam sword wont drop for me! http://www.wowhead.com/?item=25952
21:18.54RufwonI'm using a POC sword 2.6 speed OH .. and i want a change already
21:19.11Rufwonridiculous!
21:19.36kuinkalaJust level to 70 and get some gladiator swords
21:19.44kuinkalaImo
21:19.46craCkpotcaster for LIFE!!!!
21:19.50Rufwonwhats ur hearthstone set at  kuin?
21:19.58kuinkalaAuberdine
21:20.11lprichWhere is Auberdine?
21:20.21Rufwonalliance or horde?
21:20.32kuinkalaAlliance
21:20.49Rufwongo to ratchet and take the boat
21:21.18Rufwonfly to ratchet then take the boat to STV
21:21.22craCkpotbbl, food + raid (hopefully)
21:21.29lprichget a mage to port you to swamp of sorrows
21:21.45lpricherr
21:21.49JaerynTheramore
21:21.51Jaerynepic fail
21:21.53lprichyar
21:21.54lprichthat one
21:21.59lprichcouldn't remember
21:22.15JaerynMeh, SW Ship Port ruined Portal: Theramore.
21:22.32Rufwontheramore boat takes ut to mithril harbor doesnt it?
21:22.41Sialitenmenethil, yes
21:22.49JaerynTheramore to Ratchet is a short flight.
21:22.54TecnoBratmithril harbour!
21:22.58TecnoBratcan I mine there?
21:23.03Sialitenwould be nice
21:23.04Rufwonroffles
21:23.10TecnoBrat:P
21:23.19kuinkalaBoat to Theramore... Boat from Theramore to STV, right?
21:23.43JaerynNah, Ratchet goes to STV. Theramore goes to Wetlands.
21:24.06JaerynHearth to Shat. Shat port to SW. Fly to STV.
21:24.31Rufwonthats what i said
21:25.02lprichlvl 70 that doesn't have Shatt as hearth == fail, IMO.
21:25.13Ozguliunless mage
21:25.13kuinkalaWho said Im 70?
21:25.18Ozgulior engineer
21:25.18Sialitenmy mage's hearth is in area 52
21:25.21Sialitenfor spellcloth
21:25.23JaerynSame
21:25.35JaerynAnd with Spellcloth being 60g apiece on my realm right now...
21:25.37JaerynMmm
21:25.40Sialitennice
21:25.47Sialitenstill working on her spellstrike set
21:25.55Sialitenjust finished spellfire so now onto spellstrike
21:26.17JaerynI skipped Spellfire, because I knew I'd be reluctant to break it up.
21:26.33Sialitenthe set bonus is pretty nice
21:26.45Sialitenall of a sudden spell damage scales with int
21:26.48Sialitenpretty nifty
21:27.13lprichOnce upon a time in the land of Azeroth
21:27.21JaerynMages were a useful class.
21:27.23JaerynThe End.
21:27.33Sialitenon an unrelated note
21:27.43Sialitenhow do you not go oom horribly as 2/48/11?
21:27.43lprichDave Chappell fought David Hasselhoff
21:27.48RufwonI'm going to roll a mage after I'm done with my rogue
21:27.53Sialitenwell, sort of related actaully
21:28.06JaerynShadow Priest.
21:28.10Wikwocketbribe spriests and shammies?
21:28.13Sialitenhm
21:28.26Jaerynis it can be gem for haste tiem nao plees? http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Cenarius&n=conall
21:28.27Wikwocketbeg for innervate?
21:28.32lprichBribe raid leaders.
21:28.51Sialitendon't have that much raid experience with my mage
21:28.53Sialitenand by that I mean
21:29.00Sialitensome HKM trash and I got summoned in for Curator
21:29.11lprichcaster (mage, spriest, lock) want ele/resto shaman or boomkin
21:29.14lprichor both
21:29.24Sialitenyes, nomnom WoA
21:29.33lprichimagine spriest, mage, lock, boomkin, resto/ele sham
21:29.41Sialitendelicious
21:29.42JaerynI have that weekly
21:29.44lprichthe crit and spell damage would be amazing
21:29.44Jaerynit's epic
21:30.00JaerynThat's our "group 3"
21:30.07lprichThat's a sick group.
21:30.15Sialitenya rly
21:30.16lprichMust be salved, of course.
21:30.20Jaerynyup yup
21:30.24RufwonI have a level 66 rogue with 138 hit rating ... is that good for now?..
21:30.29Wikwocketwe do that, but 2 mages instead of a lock
21:30.31Jaerynit was even better when I was arc/frost
21:30.37Sialitenyeah, that's fine for where you are, ruf
21:30.51Wikwocketfiguring the locks can lifetap, and the mages love them their crit
21:30.51Jaerynwhen I was arc/frost, with procs, I hit 2007 +spell damage
21:31.03Sialitenso, if you're without all the niceties of a 25-man
21:31.04Rufwonthe only problem i have is my OH is 2.6 speed..  am i gimping my dps?
21:31.06Sialitenthen what?
21:31.10Jaerynand was sitting at about 40% fire crit
21:31.25lprichJaeryn: Aggro much? lol
21:31.30Jaerynlol
21:31.36JaerynI hit one of the bog lord dudes clearing to Karathress
21:31.37[dRaCo]Rufwon: as a combat rogue: yes.
21:31.42Jaerynfor 16k and pulled him off the tank
21:31.46Jaerynwith a pryoblast
21:31.46JaerynXD
21:31.50Sialitenlolz
21:31.56Sialiten16k?!!?
21:31.57lprichand then you died right?
21:32.01Jaerynyup
21:32.01Jaerynlol
21:32.12lprichthose things hit like mack trucks, even in UB
21:32.14Jaerynit was fire vulnerable
21:32.14Rufwondraco: i can't seem to find a better sword just from questing... ive ran mana tombs a million times for that chimatar
21:32.20Sialitenahh
21:32.30Sialitentry browsing the AH for a faster one?
21:32.36Rufwonschimatar* ...
21:32.48[dRaCo]Rufwon: yeah, it's just that you wont get as much energy from combat potency
21:32.51Jaerynpokemon*
21:33.14lprichSo, warrior tanking...  You get your block/dodge/parry up right, so you don't get hit much... but without getting hit, you can't generate rage.
21:33.28lprichWhat's the solution?
21:33.37[dRaCo]avoidance first
21:33.47Wikwockettank without your pants on, clearly
21:33.48Jaerynwait for Wrath
21:33.52Rufwondraco: i looked iin wowhead i see there is one that can be crafted http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30077 but im not weaponsmith
21:34.10Sialitenhttp://www.wowhead.com/?items=2.7&filter=qu=2:3;sl=23:13;minrl=60;maxrl=70#0+5+1
21:34.24Sialitenlevel 60-70 green and blue swords sorted by speed
21:34.24JaerynI'm waiting for UPS to show up with my copy of Age of Conan
21:34.53[dRaCo]Rufwon: don't invest too much time in finding a sword now. wait till you're 70, there'll be enough swords around then
21:34.55lprichI was figuring you all would say "roll pally tank"
21:34.56lprichlol
21:35.03Sialitenthere's a good quest reward
21:35.12Sialitenhttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=31541
21:35.13JaerynRoll druid tank
21:35.37Rufwonyea slaiten i saw that but i just started terrokar forrest at 66 lol
21:35.44lprichDruids are good single target tanks that need huge health pools.
21:35.59SialitenI'm really a pally in disguise
21:36.11Rufwonyeah thats what i think im gonna do draco
21:36.14Sialitenmultitanking isn't so hard
21:36.29Sialitenas long as DPS gives you a good lead and can l2assisttank
21:36.46lprichdps starting too early is a common problem.
21:36.54JaerynI don't know, Sialiten, the F key eludes me.
21:37.03Sialitenyeah, it's tough, I know
21:37.06lprichAs a healer though, what I tend to run into, is that the non-primary targets aggro me
21:37.31lprichwith druid/warrior tanks
21:37.37Sialitenthen that druid fails
21:37.39Sialitenso hard
21:37.39ecstasiahey sia
21:37.42Sialitenhey ecs
21:37.50lprichswipe for the win?
21:37.55Sialitenany druid who can't keep up to 4, possibly 5, off the healer is fail
21:37.58ecstasia./swipe swipe swipe\
21:38.01Sialiten5 is about my limit
21:38.47Sialitenand apparently warriors have to be really good to be able to tank more than one thing
21:38.55ecstasiaer, mangle swipe lacerate swipe, lacerate swipe
21:39.03Sialitenbecause on my mage I have encountered many horrible warrior tanks
21:39.18ecstasiaistananwe is only 17 but he's a really good warrior tank
21:39.20SialitenX eats healer's face :(
21:39.21*** join/#wowhead Slackwise (n=Lance@c-24-13-179-168.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
21:39.26Rufwondoesnt mage do burst damage .. its probably going ot happen?
21:39.39Sialitenwhat do you mean?
21:39.45SialitenI'm not talking about me pulling off the tank
21:39.45lprichall dps classes can burst
21:39.48Rufwonaggro ?
21:39.51Sialitenif I do that it's my fault
21:39.54Sialitenand it happens, lol
21:40.09ecstasiasome idiot dps don't seem to realise that if you pull, stop dpsing
21:40.13SialitenI'm talking about warriors who can't hold two targets
21:40.14Rufwonim not  tank or anything so i dont know what pisses them off
21:40.22ecstasiai've seen so many morons just keep pewpewing
21:40.23JunkHeadCan't be worse than the group my friend was in earlier.
21:40.33JunkHeadShe didn't even know who was tanking.
21:40.37Sialitenoops
21:40.39Rufwonbut im sure a tank hates running someone who pulled aggro off them
21:40.41JunkHeadThere were 2 different kill orders
21:40.42lprichecstasia: like huntards who don't FD -before- they pull aggro
21:40.47ecstasiaugh no kidding
21:40.50lprichmages who don't Iceblock
21:40.55lprichBEFORE they pull aggro
21:41.01JunkHeadAnd on Kael (regular MgT) they told her to tank Kaelw hile the melee killed the bird.
21:41.07Sialitenlprich: iceblock doesn't help
21:41.10Sialitenthey need to invis
21:41.13lprichahh
21:41.15lpricheither way
21:41.15ecstasiadon't pull off the tank unless you can tank it yourself
21:41.23JunkHeadShe came in at the second boss and the wiped 12 times before she had to leave.
21:41.28_raneiceblock doesn't reset aggro indeed
21:41.31SialitenO_o
21:41.35Sialitenthat's bad
21:41.35Rufwon<PROTECTED>
21:41.39Sialitenwell I ran into a pally tank on a slabs attempt yesterday to get my mage's keyfrag...
21:41.43Sialitenhe had zero spell damage
21:41.45ecstasiawho was it?
21:41.47ecstasiaeek
21:41.51JunkHeadfigures.
21:41.53SialitenGarob, I think?
21:41.53lprichI didn't know iceblock didn't aggro dump
21:42.02Sialitenlprich: invis is the aggro dump
21:42.03lprichthank you for informing me of this
21:42.08JunkHeadinvis sucks
21:42.14Sialitenyes it does
21:42.14Rufwonspeaking of which i hate that blade flurry hits banish targers or cc'd targets .. when are they going to find that dammit
21:42.15JunkHeadgood luck getting it off in time
21:42.20Sialitenit's like a vanish that takes 4 seconds
21:42.24Sialitenand is interrupted by anything
21:42.26JunkHeadEverytime I try to invis.. it gets to 1s and I get hit
21:42.35JunkHeadno matter how early I do it.
21:42.40Sialitenugh yeah
21:42.59lprichRufwon: They won't fix blade flurry, same as they didn't fix chain lightning
21:43.19Rufwonthats BS lol
21:43.29lprichonly tanks got that buff
21:43.38lprichie, pally capt. america shield
21:43.41JunkHeadDoesn't bother me any.
21:43.44Sialitenwhat, multitarget not breaking cc?
21:43.48JunkHeadIf there is CC, then don't aoe.
21:43.56JunkHeadI can deal with that.
21:43.57SialitenYeah, kind of an idiot check
21:44.07SialitenIt's sometimes a problem in close quarters
21:44.08JunkHeadAlthough sometimes it sucks due to the area you are in.
21:44.11JunkHeadYeah
21:44.11Rufwonim talking about about Blade Flurry though lol .. why should i hit a banished target .. ??
21:44.13lprichYeah, but why fix it for tanks and not other classes?
21:44.21Sialitenit's nto fixed for tanks
21:44.25JunkHeadWell, a banished target shouldn't be affected
21:44.27lprichyes it is
21:44.31Sialitenit is?
21:44.36JunkHeadBut a sheep or shackle will
21:44.36lprichpally shield throw is
21:44.40Sialitendoes swipe not hit critters anymore?
21:44.40lprichand swipe is i think
21:44.45Sialitenswipe still breaks stuff
21:44.59JunkHeadThunder Clap still does too.
21:45.02Sialitenyep
21:45.03ecstasiathe critters survive it seems
21:45.05lprichI'll find the patch notes for which ones got fixed
21:45.12Sialitenit was only holy frisbee
21:45.18JunkHeadThe captain amerca shield got fixed.
21:45.18SialitenI am pretty sure of that
21:45.21JunkHeadAnd....
21:45.27JunkHeadI think that's it.
21:45.30Sialitenyep
21:46.07JunkHeadbrb
21:46.16Rufwonyour all OP
21:46.20Rufwonlol
21:46.48lprichYeah, Avenger's Shield and some chain lightning weapon procs
21:46.58lprichno longer hit cc'd targets
21:47.20Rufwonthats not fair!
21:47.31lprichBlade Flurry no longer hits critters
21:47.44lprichSweeping Strikes no longer hits critters
21:48.09Rufwonc'mon now tho blade flurry hits jsut one target tho
21:48.22Rufwontwo targets totaly
21:48.34Rufwonstill hitting CC ..
21:48.40Rufwoni give blizz the finger
21:48.48lprichchain lightning still hits cc
21:48.49Rufwon:-)
21:48.54lprichsweeping strikes
21:48.56lprichswipe
21:48.59lprichall break cc
21:49.18JunkHeadthe patch notes said they wouldn't.
21:49.21JunkHeadbut they were reverted
21:49.31lprichTest Realm patch notes, at one point, yes.
21:49.43JunkHeadyeah
21:49.43lprichBut Paladins still got the buff.
21:49.46JunkHeadthat's what i meant
21:49.51JunkHeadthey didn't make it into final
21:49.51SialitenI am ok with that
21:49.58Sialitenthey can't really control what holy frisbee hits
21:50.04JunkHeadshield isn't even a big deal.
21:50.10JunkHeadconsecration breaks cc anyway
21:50.11Sialitenand they need it to pull
21:50.12kuinkalaHoly Frisbee :D Nice1
21:50.12lprichI can't control what chain lightning hits
21:50.12JunkHeadso who cares
21:50.23Sialitenyes but you have other spells
21:50.32Sialitenpaladins don't have much in the way of ranged stuff
21:50.36ecstasiaoh man, have to clean
21:50.39Rufwoni can't control blade flurry :P
21:50.42ecstasia./rather be playing wow
21:50.53JunkHeadpoint it, they need consecration to tank.
21:50.59JunkHeadthey NEED to aoe.
21:51.04JunkHeadother classes usually don't.
21:51.12JunkHeadso the CC breaking doesn't really matter much
21:51.24lprichand pally tanking near a sheep is still a bad idea.
21:51.30JunkHeadyup.
21:51.33Rufwonor my sap lol jk :P
21:51.34JunkHeadsame for shackle.
21:51.49lprichCC == away from the action and other mobs
21:51.59Rufwongeesh maybe i should go back to my hunter lol ... ahh nevermind im still hated
21:52.14lprichmultishot still breaks cc. lol
21:52.18JunkHeadyup.
21:52.21Rufwonshh dont remind me!!!
21:52.39lprichthink of the dps though.... triple multishot crits ftw!
21:52.54JunkHeadhunters are supposed to break cc.
21:53.00lprichand then trap
21:53.04JunkHeadthat's why blizzard made them
21:53.07JunkHeadto suck
21:53.09JunkHeadand be hated
21:53.16Rufwonim gonna level my rogue to 70 then drop him for a mage  .. rumoer says mages get beat down by everyone but warriors
21:53.20JunkHeadif they didn't break sheep and feing and kill healers, who would we hate?
21:53.42lprichshitty rogues?
21:53.55Rufwoni like to be the underdog
21:54.00lprichMost of the rogues i've grouped with lately have been terribad.
21:54.03JunkHead[16:53:32] <lprich> shitty players?  <-- corrected
21:54.27lprichmost of the hunters I've grouped with ahve been terribad too.
21:54.39lprichSurprisingly, the ret paladins i've been with lately have pretty much pwned face.
21:54.40JunkHeadI notice you didn't say "lately".
21:54.53ecstasiaeek, must make room on D drive
21:54.59Rufwonyet ret pallys are getin the beat down on my server .. so i might just go there too
21:55.04JunkHeadWe had a guy one time...
21:55.08JunkHeadWe went to SL.
21:55.08lprichJunkHead: I know of like, maybe 10 good hunters on my realm.
21:55.17JunkHeadWe took along a 69 hunter.
21:55.25Rufwonor i can be a moonkin
21:55.28JunkHeadWe had a t4 geard prot pally tanking
21:55.37JunkHeada 67 lock (tank's brother)
21:55.49ecstasiaeek
21:55.50JunkHeadme a 70 prot warrios DPS'ing...
21:55.58JunkHeadAnd a t4 pally healing
21:56.08lprich.... why were you dpsing as prot?
21:56.13ecstasiaprot can't dps
21:56.15lprichthis group sounds like epic fail already
21:56.16ecstasiaeven in dps gear
21:56.18JunkHeadWas bored and wanted to finish out exalted
21:56.24JunkHeadActually no.
21:56.24ecstasiait's like... painful to watch
21:56.31JunkHeadPallies did fine.
21:56.38JunkHeadI had over 30% of the damage
21:56.42JunkHeadbut the hunter...
21:56.47ecstasiathat says more about the rest of the dps than you
21:56.52JunkHeadYep.
21:56.57JunkHeadwell the 67 lock has crap gear
21:57.02JunkHeadthat's why we took him.
21:57.07JunkHeadwe expected him to not do much.
21:57.12JunkHeadBut the hunter...
21:57.14lprichplus at lvl 67... those mobs are 70+
21:57.20JunkHeadhe wouldn't even use his pet.
21:57.22JunkHeadat all.
21:57.28JunkHeadwe kept yelling at him to use it.
21:57.35ecstasiaeek
21:57.36JunkHeadAnd he would say "but it doesn't do much dps"
21:57.40ecstasiahuntard ftl
21:57.45JunkHeadAnd we'd say "a little dps is better than none"
21:57.51lprichbest I ever saw was my first sethekk run.
21:57.52JunkHeadHe could NOT understand this
21:57.59lprichme, 67 shaman
21:58.03lprich69 shaman
21:58.04JunkHeadBut yeah, I got mad prot dps. *flex*
21:58.05ecstasiahe probably is just too cheap to feed it everytime it dies
21:58.06lprich69 rogue
21:58.13*** part/#wowhead Rufwon (n=Rufwon@206.171.93.130)
21:58.14lprichpally healer
21:58.16lprichboomkin tank
21:58.51lprichpally healer and 69 enh shaman ended up 2manning ikiss from like 50%
21:59.00lprichit was awesome.
21:59.09JunkHeadI've done regular MgT a few times.
21:59.13ecstasiasounds usual
21:59.17lprichMgT sucks.
21:59.24JunkHeadAnd at least 3 times it has been me and one other person killing kael from 35% or so.
21:59.37JunkHeadUsually me and my friend (the characters vary)
21:59.37lprichDruid heals in MgT for the win.
21:59.40ecstasiaugh, i did heroic mgt a couple days ago and it was 100% pure epic fail
21:59.45ecstasialike 30g in repairs
21:59.48JunkHeadI've done heroic once.
21:59.56lprichI won't even try it.
21:59.59JunkHeadWe got to Kael eventually but had to leave due to the reset.
22:00.01lprichYou need hots for the last boss.
22:00.22lprichor lots of haste
22:00.42JunkHeadA friend of mine (who was playign the pally healer in the SL group) now has his pally up to 60 so he is holy and healing now.
22:00.44ecstasiathe times i die are when i stop to regrowth on the swimming phase
22:00.50JunkHeadHe was playign my paladin in SL.
22:01.03JunkHeadSo soon he will have his own healer.
22:01.19lprichecstasia: and the balls kick your ass
22:01.28ecstasiayes
22:01.34lprichinstant cast HoT's ftw
22:01.37ecstasiabut the rejuvs & lifeblooms just aren't cutting it
22:01.39JunkHeadAnd another friend (who was the mage in the horrible mgt group earlier) has a 66 priest she is planning on being holy with
22:01.44ecstasiaso i have to stop and regrowth or lose people
22:01.56lprichI guess shaman can keep dropping healing stream
22:02.05lprichbut it's only maybe 150 a tick
22:02.17lprichand you have to be within 30 yds
22:02.33WikwocketI have seen hMgT done with priest, pally, and druid healers
22:02.36ecstasianot gonna work unless 4/5s of the group are shammies
22:02.39JunkHeadbye guys
22:02.42JunkHeadI feel sick
22:02.44JunkHeadnight
22:02.45ecstasiaaww
22:02.47ecstasiafeel better
22:02.48ecstasianite
22:02.54kuinkalaNn JunkHead
22:03.20lprichpriest has HoT right?
22:03.24lprichRenew?
22:03.27kuinkalaY
22:04.23lprichpally == no HoT's, but fast heals
22:04.50_ranedone heroic mgt with druid healer (me) many times
22:04.51_raneno problems
22:05.00_raneif party members don't suck
22:05.04lprichyeah, druid healer in mgt ftw
22:05.05ecstasiamost of the issue was with vex
22:05.14ecstasiabloody dps couldn't follow instruction
22:05.20ecstasiawere burning him too quickly
22:05.36lprichthat the one that spawns the lightning adds that give the debuff?
22:05.40ecstasiayeah
22:05.43lprichthat guys is a pain to heal through.
22:05.51lprichworse than final boss imo
22:05.55ecstasiaespecially when the freakin dps won't listen
22:05.59_ranetranquility ftw
22:06.01_ranein the end
22:06.13lprichbig aoe resto druid heal?
22:06.18_raneyes
22:06.21lprichi like that
22:07.18ecstasiahow much does yours tick for?
22:07.29Jolt17 bars left to 70 gah!
22:07.31Joltgimme ding :(
22:07.42_ranenot sure, but a lot
22:07.47Miyari\
22:07.49ecstasiamine go for about 2.5k
22:08.09lprichmy chain heal rank 3 hits for about 2.5k on the first
22:08.25lprichwell, maybe more like 2.2k
22:08.26lprichbut close
22:09.06ecstasiatranq ticking for 2.5 on each party member throughout the time it's channeled
22:09.49lprich2.5k is huge. how many ticks you get?
22:10.17lprichyou must have like 2200 or more + heal too.
22:10.35ecstasia2076 bonus healing
22:10.39MiyariYou' have to a have a lot..
22:10.47MiyariCause mine ticks for 2610
22:10.56lprichLess than I thought you would have.
22:11.10MiyariAnd I have 2492 healing
22:11.17ecstasiai'm stuck at 2076
22:11.25lprich<-- 1901 :(
22:11.28ecstasiaworking on my feral kits
22:12.17ecstasiaand boomkin...
22:13.46ecstasiamy boomkin spellcritical is just laughable
22:14.03Miyarimy boomkin makes real ones cry
22:14.08Miyarii think i'm the most geared boomkin on the server
22:14.16Miyarieven when other guilds actually use them >.>
22:14.37ecstasiamy spellcrit is a whopping 14.something
22:14.44ecstasiatry not to laugh too hard
22:14.46lprichI love that I can spec Elemental in my healing gear and make a reasonable DPS shaman.
22:14.59lprichNot good enough for anything other than mid difficulty heroics, but still.
22:15.03ecstasiai've gotten my spellhit up to 121, not enough though
22:15.37ecstasiai need 155 spell hit, and a ton more spellcrit
22:15.54ecstasiaexcuse me while i go inspect a boomkin friend with over 1k dps
22:15.57Miyarii should get a little more
22:16.03Miyariso i don't have to get the hit talent
22:16.21lprichI thought hit talents were a good thing?
22:16.22ecstasiai splurged on the boomkin badge shoulders
22:16.25ecstasiasince they freakin rock
22:16.31Miyarimoonkin talent points are like
22:16.37Miyarithere's always something you want to get
22:17.03ecstasiaand some actual caster trinkets would help
22:17.13ecstasiaand i don't have a caster chest piece yet...
22:17.20Sialitenget the rep pvp gear
22:17.23Sialitenit's a start
22:17.35ecstasiai'm just using my ZA healing chest
22:17.46ecstasiaand my healing alchemist stone
22:17.48lprichI want my ZA healing chest
22:17.55ecstasiaalmost tempted to make a spelldamage one...
22:17.57lprichooooh <3 redeemers alch stone
22:18.06Miyarii kinda wanted to
22:18.16Miyarii'd like a hex lord trinket though
22:18.19ecstasiai think i have most of the mats for it... 5 mights, earthstorm, only 1 vortex, the primal manas
22:18.24Miyarii have the skull of gul'dan and the timbal's focusing crystal
22:18.38ecstasiajust need to make a skyfire diamond, buy another vortex and make another philosopher's stone
22:18.48ecstasiai'd be happy with quag's eye
22:18.52lprichecstasia: yeah, it's expensive mats
22:19.05lprichI ended up buying my diamonds because I didn't want to wait.
22:19.16ecstasiawell the only thing i would need to buy would be the actual second vortex
22:19.25ecstasiawhich i can get on a guild wait list for
22:19.33lprichI need a guild.
22:19.46lprichTrying to get into Old Guard on my realm. Dunno if it's gonna happen though.
22:19.48ecstasiaoh man, i can't wait to get something made with those hearts of darkness
22:19.58ecstasiawe scored 12 of em on the weekend on the hyjal run
22:20.02Miyarithere's like, nothing to make
22:20.16ecstasiawhen i mouse over the stack in the guild bank it's like... zomg
22:20.28ecstasiaauctioneer appraises it at like 12,000g
22:20.31Miyarihttp://www.nordrassil.org/balance.png
22:20.41Miyariwhoa auctioneer can appraise your guild bank? lol
22:20.57Miyarior just manual query
22:21.00lprichauctioneer appraises anything you can mouse over
22:21.03ecstasiawell auctioneer pops up the price
22:21.04lprichthat it has seen on the AH
22:21.13MalgayneZERGLING STAFF
22:21.25Sialitenzergling staff?
22:21.26lprichauctioneer/informant
22:21.46Malgaynehttp://www.nordrassil.org/balance.png
22:21.59Sialiten:o
22:22.11MiyariMalgayne!
22:22.13Miyarihttp://www.nordrassil.org/resto.png
22:22.24MalgayneNEW LOOTZ
22:22.29Miyarihell yeah
22:23.03lprichneed lots of shadow resist for a boss in BT?
22:23.12Miyariyep
22:24.41MiyariI don't know what to do with my extra spinel.
22:24.45_ranehttp://guaxia.org/jakubot.txt should anyone be interested in doing quick armory lookups :P
22:24.45MiyariI kinda should put it in my shoulders
22:24.55MiyariBut I want to start working on gemming my legs :/
22:25.04MiyariCause I have legs I've had in my inventory for almost a month now
22:25.09MiyariThat I can't use cause we don't have any spinels
22:25.19Miyarihttp://www.nordrassil.org/wtbspinels.png
22:25.24Miyari-.-
22:25.53MiyariThey need a gem exchange program.
22:26.02MiyariWhere you can turn in crappy gems for good ones.
22:26.53MiyariLike everyone in the game stopped doing daily quests
22:27.09MiyariSo we've been stuck idling around 45-50% progression on the gem vendor for months.
22:27.24lprichMiyari: There is an exchange program so to speek. It's the shatter thing those jewel crafters can do.
22:27.29lprichThey just need to make a second one
22:27.38lprichthat uses blue gems to always make an epic
22:27.47MiyariYeah heh
22:27.56MiyariI bet it's all the people who do Sunwell trash pugs
22:28.11lprichI was in one of those the other day.
22:28.12lprichKinda fun.
22:28.12MiyariWho want to protect their investment and always be able to sell the gems they may win for ridiculous prices.
22:28.28MiyariIt pisses me off, we clear through all of Sunwell's trash and don't get any trash drops :/
22:28.39MiyariAnd the stupid pugs get like 3 items and like 20 gems and sunmotes and stuff.
22:28.43lprichWe were only doing the very first pull
22:28.49MiyariYea
22:28.52MiyariThat's all the ever do.
22:28.55MiyariLike THAT's working as intended.
22:29.13MiyariI wouldn't be surprised if Blizzard does something stupid like lower the trash drop rate even MORE drastically
22:29.27lprichOr save you to it on trash
22:29.58lprichAfter WotLK comes out they will probably change the drop rates.
22:30.15lprichI doubt before then though, since it's THE endgame right now.
22:30.45WikwocketHow much trash can you do in Sunwell with a pug?
22:30.53lprichjust the first pull
22:31.05lprichso, six mobs?
22:31.15Jaerynwhee, Age of Conan is here!
22:31.21WikwocketAnd you have a shot at sunmotes and maybe trash epics?
22:31.21lprichsleep the beast, sheep the hell out of everything else
22:31.28lprichpretty much
22:31.46lprichyou need like 5-6 mages, 3-4 healers, a couple tanks
22:31.49Miyarithey just pull the trash
22:31.55Miyarithen run out leaving something alive
22:31.58lprichwell, maybe 2-3 healers
22:32.10Miyarithey should change it so that the trash doesn't respawn
22:32.21Miyaribut on the same way, that screws up game mechanics
22:32.25Miyariso what do you do :P
22:32.28lprichExactly
22:32.31Miyarithey'll make the first pull save you to the instance
22:32.34lprichit's a touch situation
22:32.35Miyarilike BWL
22:32.38WikwocketOh I see, the whole pack respawns if you leave anything alive?
22:32.41MiyariYou are now saved to this instance.
22:32.44MiyariYou are now saved to this instance.
22:32.45MiyariYou are now saved to this instance.
22:32.46MiyariYou are now saved to this instance.
22:32.51MiyariGood times!
22:32.52lprichIt's just like MgT
22:33.03lprichpeople resetting it to get a good setup for the pvp fight
22:33.11MiyariAll of these terribles
22:33.13MiyariHave my gloves -.-
22:33.17MiyariAnd they won't ever drop for me
22:33.23MiyariAnd the lw pattern drops for nobody !
22:33.45WikwocketIs there a way to see just the trash drops for Sunwell in Wowhead?
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22:34.12MiyariNot yet
22:34.19WikwocketOkay, thank you for the info
22:34.20JaerynThere's a robe pattern I want
22:34.21Jaerynlol
22:34.32Miyariwow see
22:34.34MiyariI walk out of the bank
22:34.40MiyariAnd this idiot has the gloves I want -.-
22:34.42WikwocketMaybe I'll propose it to my guild if we lack a full 25 sometime
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22:35.29ecstasiawb
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22:36.40ecstasiaWikwocket- atlasloot usually shows
22:36.41JaerynI really feel a lot better about the game I'm installing when the installer tells me
22:36.46Jaeryn"This part will take a long time."
22:37.05ecstasiaat least it's honest
22:37.11lprich^^
22:37.11JaerynTrue
22:37.15JaerynWoW never told me that.
22:37.15JaerynXD
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22:37.54ecstasiawb again
22:41.19lprichKeep your fingers crossed for me getting into old guard!
22:41.53Sialite2argh, how do I switch back to my registered name?
22:42.06ecstasiadoes cleaning out a harddrive count as cleaning?
22:42.14ecstasiatry /msg nickserv ghost sialiten pass
22:42.16TecnoBratYou are now saved to this instance.
22:42.18ecstasiaoh you got it
22:42.21ecstasiaLOL
22:42.31Jaerynlmao
22:42.39ecstasia./slap tecnobrat with a wild pacific salmon
22:42.42TecnoBratYou are now saved to this instance.
22:42.45JaerynThat should be in the topic.
22:42.53Jaeryn"Welcome to #wowhead, you are now saved to this instance."
22:42.58lprichYou are now saved to this instance.
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22:43.04ecstasiawas funny the first time
22:43.05*** mode/#wowhead [+o Malgayne] by ChanServ
22:43.08ecstasiayou've killed it
22:43.13MistelHi.
22:43.15TecnoBratYou are now saved to this instance.
22:43.16ecstasiaallo
22:43.21*** topic/#wowhead by TecnoBrat -> Welcome to the official Wowhead channel, enjoy your stay - Channel rules and statistics can be found at www.wowhead.com/?irc - You are now saved to this instance.
22:43.27TecnoBratMalgayne, You are now saved to this instance.
22:43.28ecstasiadon't mind tecno, he's from parksville
22:43.31ecstasiahe can't help himself
22:43.32Jaerynlol
22:43.37MistelErr..Right.
22:43.46lprichYou are now saved to this instance.
22:43.48ecstasia./waits for alberni trashing.
22:43.48TecnoBratYou guys don't remember that?
22:43.56TecnoBratevery mob you killed
22:43.57TecnoBratYou are now saved to this instance.
22:44.05ecstasianope
22:44.46WikwocketIt was more often than every mob kill
22:44.59TecnoBratI mean trash too
22:45.04ecstasiaspammerlicious
22:45.35ecstasiadid it do that after critter kills?
22:45.37TecnoBratsuppression room was LAWL
22:45.48afkafkapicked up the healing ring from mgt normal earlier
22:45.55ecstasiaon woodey i hope
22:46.01afkafkaaye
22:46.04ecstasiagrats!
22:46.10TecnoBratecstasia, I would make a PA joke
22:46.13afkafkathanks. flavour text is nice
22:46.13TecnoBratbut its too easy
22:46.28ecstasiai was expecting 'but it does a good enough job of that on it's own'
22:47.23lprichafkafka: Kharma's Ring of Fate?
22:47.27lprichI have that. Nice ring.
22:47.29ecstasiame too
22:47.33ecstasiai put the +22 healing gem in it
22:47.35lprichPut that +22 healing gem in it.
22:47.39lprichyup.
22:47.52lprichbumps it to a +70 healing ring before stats.
22:48.28afkafkayes
22:48.43afkafkaJim took the 20AP gem unfortunately, or I would
22:49.23ecstasiaugh i need to run hmgt again soon
22:49.27ecstasiastill after the commendation
22:49.40ecstasiahad to force the healing trinket on the shadow priest
22:49.53afkafkauh, why
22:49.59ecstasiadidn't want it
22:50.05afkafkakay
22:50.23ecstasiawell didn't really have to force it
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23:01.51lprichlalala
23:09.16Ziconpokes lprich with a carrot.
23:09.24lpricheats the carrot.
23:09.27lprichI am teh hungry.
23:10.38lprichAlso.
23:10.45lprichZicon: 1901 +heals! :D
23:10.58ZiconI have lots of carrots. I needed a couple for dinner, and had to buy a big basket of them. :|
23:12.57lprichI have to do the same thing with celery, and normally end up throwing it out later because I don't use it all.
23:14.54lprichThe man in the back said everyone attack and it turned into a ballroom blitz
23:16.05lprichand the girl in the corner said boy i wanna warn ya it'll turn into a ballroom blitz.
23:16.11lprichballroom blitz.
23:16.19RawsDuh duh duhduhduhduh
23:17.07lprichRaws:
23:17.14Rawslprich:
23:17.17lprichHi
23:17.48Raws'lo dood
23:17.59Rawswas at the International Tennis Hall 'o Fame today
23:18.04lprichOooh.
23:18.09lprichHow much fun was it?
23:18.59RawsIt was lots of fun
23:19.11RawsI was doing an interactive enshrinee installation there
23:19.22RawsBeautiful day
23:19.28RawsHung out around the grass courts
23:19.29lprichCool.
23:19.32RawsQuite
23:20.40TecnoBratwow
23:20.43TecnoBratthat would be ...
23:20.45TecnoBratboring for me
23:20.47TecnoBratTennis?
23:20.57TecnoBratthat has to be the worst sport to watch
23:21.05lprichNo way.
23:21.10lprichGolf.
23:21.21lprichGolf is teh most boring.
23:21.26TecnoBratyes Golf is also boring
23:21.28TecnoBratits a tie imo
23:21.36lprichAt least in tennis you see people occasionally eat clay.
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23:25.47ecstasiatennis actually requires physical effort
23:27.12Sialitenyes, it does
23:27.52lprich8/0/53 FTW
23:33.32TecnoBratPLAYING yes
23:33.35TecnoBratwatching?
23:35.33robotuschTo me, it's a bit like test cricket, not particularly interesting to watch from start to end - but the sort of thing you can join in at any time and go 'Oh, so that's the score, interesting' at
23:38.57lprichmmm, 21/40/0 mage.
23:39.44lpricha mana regenerating PoM pyro maniac.
23:40.57RawsSomeone should represent the TF2 classes with WoW talent builds
23:44.16lprichOh wow. I had never really looked at the arcane tree, but it seems rather impressive.
23:44.20Cad|GoogleIOsteals Raws' iphone
23:44.35RawsHey now
23:44.41Cad|GoogleIOfine
23:44.43Cad|GoogleIOgives it back
23:44.56Cad|GoogleIOI'm in a code lab, i'm supposed to modify this wiki to have new functionality
23:45.12Cad|GoogleIOonly I don't know python
23:45.21Cad|GoogleIOso i'm guess-and-hacking
23:47.20lprichLaters folks. Sorry for being a pain in your butts and talking all the time! :D
23:47.47Cad|GoogleIOJEEZ JABBER-JAW
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23:48.00Cad|GoogleIOgive teh channel some text
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23:56.52robotuschI'm in your Wiki, messing with your python ;o

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