| 00:00.05 | Adys | unless its sent by different persons |
| 00:00.10 | Malgayne | See you all soon. :) |
| 00:00.16 | Zarnox | See you Malgayne |
| 00:00.16 | Adys | see ya o/ |
| 00:00.58 | Adys | Argh |
| 00:01.03 | Adys | so many people sending full-ui shots :( |
| 00:01.27 | zushiba | GetRealmName() behold it does exist.. |
| 00:01.48 | Adys | Ya that one |
| 00:02.46 | zushiba | I'm outa here too, work is done and I have Fridays off so woo, go me. |
| 00:02.50 | zushiba | Later all. |
| 00:02.53 | Adys | See ya |
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| 00:05.53 | PacMan | hey |
| 00:06.03 | Adys | Hiya |
| 00:06.18 | Paradox_ | oh yeah adys |
| 00:06.18 | PacMan | you guys know anything about private servers? |
| 00:06.22 | Paradox_ | got my drake today =) |
| 00:06.30 | Adys | PacMan, read the topic |
| 00:06.34 | Adys | grats Paradox_ =] |
| 00:06.48 | Paradox_ | i'm stressed though, cause I can't decide which one I prefer |
| 00:07.06 | Adys | you can always buy another |
| 00:07.08 | Adys | at the ledge |
| 00:07.17 | Paradox_ | I took the azure, and bought a veridian |
| 00:07.23 | Paradox_ | but now I might prefer the purple one ;3 |
| 00:07.31 | Adys | buy them all and random them out? =] |
| 00:08.18 | PacMan | what bout the topic? |
| 00:08.25 | Paradox_ | I like the veridian, but it's wings are too black, when the rest of it is green :/ |
| 00:08.28 | PacMan | bad english |
| 00:08.29 | Paradox_ | ruins the look |
| 00:09.04 | Adys | pacman, anything against the ToS/EULA is not allowed in this chan, includes gold selling, account trading, private servers, and so much more |
| 00:09.15 | PacMan | oh |
| 00:09.20 | PacMan | sry my bad |
| 00:09.37 | PacMan | To the internet lol! |
| 00:09.39 | *** part/#wowhead PacMan (i=sscarfac@cs181234011.pp.htv.fi) |
| 00:09.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | To the internet lol! |
| 00:09.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | O_o |
| 00:10.23 | *** mode/#wowhead [+b *!sscarfac@*.pp.htv.fi] by Adys |
| 00:10.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | i played on one of those once, it was full of eastern europeans and was frightening |
| 00:10.34 | [dRaCo] | lol, to the internet, lol! lol. |
| 00:10.48 | Inc` | What's an internet? |
| 00:10.55 | [dRaCo] | google it! |
| 00:10.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | i never went back because i value proper english a little more than that |
| 00:11.01 | Adys | It's something full of tubes |
| 00:11.12 | Inc` | Haha, speaking of Ted Stevens... |
| 00:11.42 | Inc` | Arrested on corruption charges? Preposterous! The tubes did not save him. :[ |
| 00:11.45 | Adys | http://adys.stools.net/misc/scottytubes.jpg |
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| 00:12.49 | rayford|redbull | Inc`: JFGI. |
| 00:12.56 | Infinity-X | skosiris, check msn! :) |
| 00:13.13 | Inc` | jfgi? |
| 00:13.14 | Adys | he's afk since a hour and half |
| 00:13.21 | rayford|redbull | Google that. |
| 00:13.30 | Inc` | lol |
| 00:13.36 | Adys | lol |
| 00:13.40 | Inc` | Your acronyms are annoying and redundant. :P |
| 00:13.45 | rayford|redbull | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:13.56 | Inc` | My personal favorite is RTFM. |
| 00:14.45 | rayford|redbull | Thats a good one, too. |
| 00:14.47 | [dRaCo] | which is, at least basically, the same as jfgi |
| 00:15.00 | ElCoronel | Really Taunt Foolish Mages? |
| 00:15.14 | [dRaCo] | both say: "help yourself." |
| 00:15.28 | ElCoronel | heh |
| 00:15.36 | ElCoronel | PEBKM |
| 00:16.17 | Adys | "Jewish Federation of Greater Indianapolis" |
| 00:19.28 | ElCoronel | so |
| 00:19.35 | ElCoronel | I know i missed the big death knight |
| 00:19.45 | ElCoronel | but I'm still curious what everyone thinks |
| 00:20.47 | [dRaCo] | most ppl said something like "dotdotdotfearbubblehearth" |
| 00:22.03 | ElCoronel | any comments as to how it would or wouldn't fit within the 'storyline' |
| 00:22.49 | Adys | think its still way too far to think about how its gonna be implemented lorewise |
| 00:22.56 | Adys | s/far/early/ |
| 00:23.55 | ElCoronel | heh |
| 00:24.03 | ElCoronel | I would agree with one comment |
| 00:24.23 | ElCoronel | how in the heck are they gonna justify the deathknights staying with their original faction |
| 00:24.34 | Adys | they already did |
| 00:25.17 | Adys | Death knight is more of a state, you make a choice of following the lich king or your old faction just like the Forsaken make the choice of following Sylvanas and not the lich king |
| 00:26.07 | ElCoronel | mkay |
| 00:26.16 | ElCoronel | I guess I don't understand |
| 00:26.42 | ElCoronel | though I never really cared for the Forsaken being part of the Horde either |
| 00:26.43 | ElCoronel | heh |
| 00:28.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | well |
| 00:28.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | the scourge didn't have any willpower |
| 00:28.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | the lich king lost some of his control when illidan attacked icecrown and a decent chunk of the undead suddenly found themselves with their own will back |
| 00:28.45 | ElCoronel | yeah |
| 00:28.55 | ElCoronel | I understand the logic behind the lore |
| 00:29.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | the thing about death knights is |
| 00:29.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | they're still alive |
| 00:29.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | and they willingly gave themselves to the lich king |
| 00:29.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | so i'm not sure how metzen will explain it |
| 00:29.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | but we'll see |
| 00:29.42 | ElCoronel | I just always thought 3 factions made more sense |
| 00:29.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | 3 way battlegrounds won't exactly work |
| 00:30.12 | ElCoronel | yeah |
| 00:30.23 | Adys | there are more than 3 factions |
| 00:30.26 | Adys | just only two playable |
| 00:30.37 | Adys | just like there are more than 10 races and 9 classes |
| 00:30.52 | Adys | just like gilneas exists but isnt playable |
| 00:30.53 | Adys | etc etc |
| 00:30.54 | ElCoronel | heh |
| 00:31.17 | ElCoronel | might just be my personal dislike for the forsaken creeping in |
| 00:31.17 | ElCoronel | heh |
| 00:31.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | two factions is about the best way you can manage it |
| 00:31.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | a 3 way battle is near impossible to balance |
| 00:32.30 | ElCoronel | and I don't play BGs much either |
| 00:32.35 | ElCoronel | I prefer world pvp |
| 00:32.56 | Adys | lol |
| 00:33.45 | Adys | world pvp doesnt exist atm |
| 00:33.54 | Adys | i got my hope it comes back with wotlk but.... kinda doubt it |
| 00:34.42 | ElCoronel | world pvp doesn't exist |
| 00:38.08 | ElCoronel | Adys: certainly there is world pvp going on in Zangamarsh and Nagrand, no to mention tons of player on player action in all other contested realms? |
| 00:38.44 | Adys | just curious, were you playing before patch 1.5? |
| 00:40.02 | Adys | i shall find you screenshots |
| 00:41.03 | ElCoronel | I started Nov. last year |
| 00:41.15 | Adys | hm thats kinda recent, gimme a few |
| 00:43.01 | Crevox | There was more World PVP in WoW when battlegrounds did not exist, honor did not exist, and there was no world pvp objectives |
| 00:43.05 | Crevox | it's funny :p |
| 00:43.18 | Adys | http://worldofwarcraft.judgehype.com/images.php?img=466&t=al http://worldofwarcraft.judgehype.com/images.php?img=539&t=al http://worldofwarcraft.judgehype.com/images.php?img=593&t=al |
| 00:43.22 | Adys | this is world pvp |
| 00:43.33 | Adys | not the crap we got going on in nagrand or whatever |
| 00:43.57 | Crevox | Southshore/Tarren Mill |
| 00:44.09 | Adys | indeed, trying to find screenshots of that |
| 00:45.03 | Adys | http://worldofwarcraft.judgehype.com/images.php?img=424&t=al |
| 00:45.06 | Adys | crossroads |
| 00:45.07 | alb | um, anyone know how to stop a /timer in mirc? |
| 00:45.08 | ElCoronel | yeah |
| 00:45.09 | ElCoronel | so |
| 00:45.14 | Inc` | /timername stop |
| 00:45.19 | alb | i tried that |
| 00:45.20 | ElCoronel | a bud and I want to start running world raids like that |
| 00:45.21 | ElCoronel | but |
| 00:45.22 | alb | /timer5 stop |
| 00:45.27 | ElCoronel | what changed? |
| 00:45.31 | Inc` | Try off |
| 00:45.34 | Adys | no one's interested anymore |
| 00:45.35 | Inc` | Instead of stop |
| 00:45.52 | ElCoronel | Adys: why not? |
| 00:45.54 | alb | worked thanks |
| 00:46.13 | Adys | because OMG LOOT HONOR HONOR BG BG ARENA ARENA RAIDS RAIDS |
| 00:46.23 | ElCoronel | heheh |
| 00:46.34 | Adys | back then there was no honor system, no dishonorable kill system, no battlegrounds |
| 00:46.35 | ElCoronel | I've sampled all that stuff |
| 00:46.40 | ElCoronel | and world pvp > * |
| 00:46.40 | Crevox | I've been playing since stress test, there was so much more world pvp |
| 00:46.44 | alb | people wont pvp without rewards nowadays |
| 00:46.47 | Adys | indeed |
| 00:47.06 | Adys | if they removed every single reward the game has i believe people would start playing for fun |
| 00:47.06 | ElCoronel | I don't even bother to run instances anymore |
| 00:47.13 | ElCoronel | I'd rather ride around looking for people to fight |
| 00:47.16 | Adys | but they'd just whine |
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| 00:48.23 | ElCoronel | I also wish the game allowed a little more moral freedom |
| 00:48.26 | Crevox | I went to Durotar the other day on my 62 mage for fun, not one alliance person there... and the horde didn't seem to care I was killing NPCs |
| 00:48.32 | Adys | WoW is not built for it |
| 00:48.35 | ElCoronel | certainly with consequences |
| 00:48.37 | ElCoronel | yeah |
| 00:48.57 | ElCoronel | crazytrev: pvp server? |
| 00:50.13 | Adys | http://worldofwarcraft.judgehype.com/images.php?img=671&t=al |
| 00:50.18 | Adys | that was some other sick memory of the game |
| 00:50.26 | Adys | AQ opening |
| 00:50.53 | Adys | blizzard should remove raid instance loot |
| 00:50.54 | Gnarfoz | http://geektour.de/~smallbrain/wow/archive/gate_flashback.jpg :D |
| 00:50.56 | Adys | pvp rewards |
| 00:50.58 | Adys | honor system |
| 00:51.00 | Adys | everything |
| 00:51.03 | Adys | the game would become fun |
| 00:51.46 | Adys | the mindset is "giving people rewards so they can keep on" |
| 00:51.49 | Raws | Gnarfoz: o_o |
| 00:51.58 | Adys | funny thing is a lot of people dont even play to play anymore |
| 00:52.10 | Adys | they just are online like if they were online on msn |
| 00:52.38 | Gnarfoz | Raws: ^^ |
| 00:52.41 | Adys | but yea its a tradeoff |
| 00:53.01 | Adys | The game would be fun but other games would be better, more attractive == less money |
| 00:53.20 | Adys | so its temporary fun vs long term attraction / addiction |
| 00:53.38 | Adys | sadly |
| 00:54.20 | ElCoronel | yeah |
| 00:54.21 | ElCoronel | well |
| 00:54.23 | ElCoronel | bad storm here |
| 00:54.26 | ElCoronel | take care all |
| 00:54.27 | ElCoronel | nite |
| 00:54.29 | Adys | see ya |
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| 01:46.26 | alb | i wonder what would happen if you spellreflected mind control |
| 01:46.30 | alb | anyone tried it? |
| 01:46.40 | Adys | hm |
| 01:46.59 | Adys | I know blizzard likes to force events on weird stuff happening |
| 01:47.01 | Adys | such as resists |
| 01:47.04 | alb | it is possible to spellreflect seduce |
| 01:47.11 | alb | and that's charm too |
| 01:47.19 | Adys | its a different charm |
| 01:47.30 | Adys | charm is a general mechanic, mind control is a core mechanic of charm |
| 01:47.37 | Adys | if that makes any sense |
| 01:47.57 | alb | not really |
| 01:48.14 | Adys | spells got two mechanics |
| 01:48.23 | Adys | one general mechanic, and one server side mechanic |
| 01:48.34 | Adys | for example, frost nova is root / freeze |
| 01:48.43 | Adys | entangling roots is root / root |
| 01:49.01 | Adys | frost nova WILL triple the damage on ice lance, since its a freeze |
| 01:49.05 | Adys | but entangling roots wont |
| 01:49.41 | Adys | freezing trap is incapacitation / freeze, sap is incapacitation / incapacitation |
| 01:49.45 | Adys | same thing there |
| 01:50.24 | Adys | Seduce is incapacitation / carm, mind control is domination / charm |
| 01:50.32 | alb | aha |
| 01:50.49 | Adys | domination effects include all effects taking control of your character and casting stuff for you |
| 01:51.08 | Adys | I suppose reflecting a domination effect could provoke a resist, an immune or anything, thats what i meant |
| 01:53.29 | alb | found a priest in durotar |
| 01:53.43 | alb | was like you said, nothing happens |
| 01:53.52 | alb | didn't even get immune, resist or anything |
| 01:54.32 | Adys | thats one question more i can answer if i ever get it asked :) |
| 01:55.05 | alb | :) |
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| 02:01.09 | OVVeN | I see Mr. Rabies is still here ^^ |
| 02:01.11 | OVVeN | Hello everyone |
| 02:01.16 | Adys | Hiya |
| 02:08.57 | Adys | how nice |
| 02:12.18 | skizm | haha |
| 02:29.09 | nachos | heya |
| 02:29.36 | nachos | at level 12 is it worth buying a weapon ( two handed mace ) at ~9.5 damage per sec/ |
| 02:29.41 | nachos | i have 30 silver |
| 02:30.31 | alb | you'll replace it in a few levels |
| 02:30.35 | alb | so i'd say no |
| 02:30.49 | nachos | do you get a new weapon? |
| 02:30.52 | nachos | at level 15 |
| 02:31.10 | Adys | depends if you're lucky |
| 02:31.14 | Adys | but dont buy stuff |
| 02:31.20 | Adys | its usually rip offs from npcs |
| 02:31.31 | nachos | yeah :S |
| 02:31.41 | nachos | i have a fire wand but i cant use it :( |
| 02:31.52 | Adys | its nice when you want to gear up your alts quickly and got some money to spare on your main |
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| 02:35.49 | nachos | how do you put the details of a item into chat? |
| 02:36.01 | Adys | shift click it |
| 02:36.04 | nachos | thanks |
| 02:36.13 | nachos | im gonna try sell this firewand |
| 02:37.19 | nachos | also, how do i get to loch modan from sentinel hill/stormwind |
| 02:46.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm always here |
| 02:46.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | always waiting |
| 02:46.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | always watching |
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| 02:51.45 | Kirkburn | yo |
| 02:51.55 | Adys | rawr |
| 02:52.06 | Kirkburn | Oh, you answer here, do you? :P |
| 02:52.20 | Adys | i got beeps on here |
| 02:52.29 | Adys | its calmer than #wowwiki |
| 02:52.37 | Kirkburn | Wow |
| 02:52.52 | Kirkburn | Btw, I think I found Teabingh again |
| 02:52.56 | Adys | haha |
| 02:53.28 | Kirkburn | You must have noticed Voluspa by now |
| 02:53.41 | Adys | hmm |
| 02:53.48 | Adys | yea |
| 02:54.04 | Adys | LOL |
| 02:54.39 | Adys | "HI, IM BACK SUCKERS! DID YOU MISS ME!" |
| 02:54.49 | Kirkburn | Whaa?? |
| 02:55.05 | Adys | if thats not his message in the VP what is it |
| 02:55.59 | Adys | cmon he even has an å in his nickname |
| 02:56.10 | Adys | thats just asking for it |
| 02:56.38 | Kirkburn | If he keeps himself to himself, I can't be bothered with calling him out again |
| 02:56.46 | Kirkburn | But he needs help |
| 02:56.49 | Kirkburn | :) |
| 02:57.30 | Adys | "Völuspá (Prophecy of the Seeress) is the first and best known poem of the Poetic Edda. It tells the story of the creation of the world and its coming end related by a völva or seeress addressing Odin. It is one of the most important primary sources for the study of Norse mythology." |
| 02:57.55 | Adys | what does this guy want |
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| 03:07.23 | Miyari | ALOHA |
| 03:07.54 | Raws | 'lo :) |
| 03:08.26 | Adys | heya |
| 03:08.53 | Miyari | wot i miss |
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| 04:05.32 | TecnoBrat | HI, IM BACK SUCKERS! DID YOU MISS ME! |
| 04:05.43 | Adys | no |
| 04:07.08 | puurst | no |
| 04:07.44 | Adys | I can really kick tecnobrat! |
| 04:08.21 | Sky2042 | please? |
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| 04:09.53 | Crevox | Does an item like Riding Crop or Carrot on a Stick work with a flying mount? |
| 04:09.58 | Adys | yes |
| 04:09.59 | Crevox | I assume yes but... |
| 04:10.02 | Crevox | ah, okay, thanks |
| 04:10.59 | puurst | yes they do |
| 04:11.01 | puurst | but they dont stack together |
| 04:11.06 | puurst | nor w/ any inc.speed talents |
| 04:11.17 | Adys | Riding crop is the highest mounted % increase you'll get |
| 04:11.23 | Adys | and its at the cap |
| 04:13.13 | Crevox | Does that stack with the other +10% trinket? |
| 04:13.35 | puurst | no |
| 04:13.41 | puurst | no mount/move speed stacks with another |
| 04:13.55 | Crevox | So, Carrot on a Stack + Mithril Spurs wouldn't? |
| 04:13.58 | Crevox | stick* |
| 04:14.00 | Crevox | I'm sure they did |
| 04:14.05 | puurst | yeah they did |
| 04:14.12 | puurst | i mean 10% solid ones |
| 04:14.15 | Crevox | I see |
| 04:14.17 | puurst | the whip + crop |
| 04:14.19 | puurst | doesnt stack |
| 04:14.23 | puurst | spurs + crop/whip dont stack |
| 04:14.31 | puurst | but anything below 10% will stack with another below 10% |
| 04:14.33 | puurst | not inc. talents |
| 04:15.29 | Crevox | I see |
| 04:15.46 | Crevox | Thank you |
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| 04:43.40 | Adys | These chinese guys sure know how to take screenshots better than alot of US/EUs |
| 04:43.41 | Adys | http://www.wowhead.com/?screenshot=view&4.161#31475 |
| 04:44.13 | Sky2042 | that's sarcasm, i hope |
| 04:44.22 | Adys | it's full set shot |
| 04:44.28 | Adys | so actually, no |
| 04:44.31 | Sky2042 | but it isn't ingame |
| 04:44.37 | Adys | er, and? |
| 04:44.37 | Sky2042 | isn't that the point of sss? |
| 04:45.06 | Adys | dressing room is ingame, yet it makes much crappier shots than char selection screen :P |
| 04:45.45 | Adys | http://www.wowhead.com/?screenshot=view&3.8223#15093 |
| 04:45.47 | Adys | for example |
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| 04:46.35 | Sky2042 | neither are good |
| 04:46.41 | Sky2042 | imo |
| 04:47.01 | Adys | second one is crap |
| 04:47.10 | Adys | first one is alright for a full set shot |
| 04:50.23 | Adys | and if you think THATS bad you havent seen anything :P |
| 04:50.38 | Sky2042 | you and your frog. |
| 04:50.47 | Adys | was a joke! |
| 05:06.49 | puurst | my favourites are small weapons that are enchanted with mongoose or whatnot |
| 05:06.54 | puurst | that you cant even see the weapon |
| 05:06.58 | puurst | and ppl post there screenshots |
| 05:07.01 | Adys | lol |
| 05:08.00 | puurst | http://www.wowhead.com/?user=iceboxqs |
| 05:08.01 | puurst | lol, man |
| 05:08.16 | Adys | i know ... |
| 05:10.43 | puurst | why are rogues still going to mechanar |
| 05:10.45 | puurst | wasnt it fixed |
| 05:11.40 | Sky2042 | chinaman! |
| 05:11.44 | Sky2042 | >.> |
| 05:11.45 | Sky2042 | <.< |
| 05:21.18 | Miyari | i need to take more ss |
| 05:21.35 | Miyari | im pissed im dumb and forgot to take ss of these terrible druid shoulders that dropped earlier this week |
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| 05:21.53 | Miyari | the ss on the site has them on some naked male blood elf |
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| 05:36.23 | afsasfagga | Whatsup! |
| 05:36.47 | Adys | hey |
| 05:36.59 | Shrekk | How are u |
| 05:37.11 | Shrekk | hey skosiris you there? |
| 05:37.52 | Adys | think he's afk, what do you need? |
| 05:38.10 | Shrekk | I need to know who are u |
| 05:38.16 | Shrekk | Who you are* |
| 05:38.30 | Adys | http://www.wowhead.com/?user=Adys |
| 05:39.15 | Shrekk | cool! |
| 05:39.33 | Shrekk | Are you an employee of wowhead? |
| 05:39.44 | Adys | Sorta, what do you need? |
| 05:39.56 | Shrekk | nothing i just want to talk ;) haha |
| 05:40.23 | Adys | right |
| 05:40.28 | Shrekk | I was looking to know if Skosiris was actually looking here ;) |
| 05:40.48 | Shrekk | Where is mystadio |
| 05:40.57 | Shrekk | does he use Mystadio as well in here? |
| 05:41.05 | Adys | Yes, he's not on atm |
| 05:41.10 | Shrekk | alright |
| 05:41.42 | Shrekk | I'm a RL friend of sko and myst and I was just looking around here to see what it was and how it was going |
| 05:42.07 | Adys | aight |
| 05:42.26 | Shrekk | it's great |
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| 06:31.08 | Miyari | lol |
| 06:31.10 | Miyari | im doing bwl -_- |
| 06:31.21 | Sky2042 | lol! |
| 06:31.28 | Sky2042 | someone need their tf, or just for fun? |
| 06:31.54 | Adys | and i am reading some sick hilarious thread about msn tech support |
| 06:32.35 | Miyari | someone wants a thunderfury :P |
| 06:32.42 | Adys | [...] I had a way to poll each user.. I used it by opening a chat with every offline contact, every 30secs... seemed to work, did some testings... then, when I committed, after a 1 or 2 hour polling, my address was blocked then we removed the feature until I fixed that (poll every 5 minutes using the same SB, as in a multi conversation).. |
| 06:32.43 | Sky2042 | yaha |
| 06:32.56 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 06:32.58 | Adys | anyways, by opening so many chat conversations, the M$ servers detected me as being a 'spam attacker' (you know, when you get thousands of chat windows opening from people you don't have on your list, telling you to visit a site, and they close the convo?) so my mail was blocked... I emails M$ to say 'I'm not a spammer, can I get my account unbanned'.. |
| 06:33.16 | Adys | took me a month of back and forth with emails with them.. they were saying "make sure you're connected, verify your firewall allows msn application, etc..." I had to explain 100 times that I AM A GEEK!! |
| 06:33.27 | Adys | I get the answer "500" from the NS, and everything, explaiined it so much... after I think 5 emails/replies they finally 'talked to me'.. before it was just something like an automated bot searching for patterns in my email and answering common FAQ questions out of the patterns it found, like "can't connect", it answer "please check your internet... ISP... firewall.. blabla"... |
| 06:33.42 | Adys | then, I had to make the tech guy understand the problem, then make him understand the problem, then make him understand that he didn't understand the problem, then make him redirect me to the 'technical guys', then do the same thing over again, then I got my account back.. |
| 06:33.57 | Adys | 2 or 3 days later, I realised that polling each 5 minutes would make my account banned again... been 3+ years, I never had the courage to ask them to re-enable my account |
| 06:34.10 | Sky2042 | ol |
| 06:34.13 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 06:34.37 | Adys | absolutely awesome |
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| 07:09.03 | Miyari | that was boring -_- |
| 07:09.13 | Miyari | got some t2 bracers tho lawl |
| 07:09.38 | Sky2042 | class? |
| 07:09.41 | Miyari | hunter |
| 07:09.45 | Adys | gnite |
| 07:09.48 | Miyari | i never took em when i was actually in alt bwl heh |
| 07:09.52 | Miyari | cos i used 2pc zg set |
| 07:09.57 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 07:10.17 | Sky2042 | i never got to have t2, cept the heaad :| but i still managed 420 dmg with decent mana.hp |
| 07:10.25 | Sky2042 | and a bit of crit, on top of it |
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| 07:11.45 | Sky2042 | bet i could throw my suit together again if i needed to |
| 07:14.18 | `-` | aww razorgore was the best thing bout bwl |
| 07:19.24 | Sky2042 | fun fun |
| 07:19.30 | Sky2042 | i really wanted to see nef though |
| 07:19.39 | Sky2042 | turn myself into a sheep! :] |
| 07:24.34 | Miyari | i broke my damn bow |
| 07:24.37 | Miyari | -_- |
| 07:24.49 | Miyari | like a scrub rofl |
| 07:25.25 | Sky2042 | looooooool |
| 07:25.53 | Miyari | i had two guns in my bags |
| 07:25.56 | Miyari | but no bullets rofl |
| 07:27.51 | `-` | haha |
| 07:28.14 | `-` | melee ftw |
| 07:29.14 | `-` | i wonder can rogues escape the rogue call now with vanish and quickly use shadowstep lawl |
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| 08:06.31 | KennyWithBS | hi |
| 08:17.29 | Sky2042 | hi |
| 08:21.35 | Saladin | moin |
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| 08:29.33 | damien4546 | BONJOUR |
| 08:30.00 | damien4546 | ici c un serveur privé wow? |
| 08:30.22 | Sky2042 | no |
| 08:30.23 | Sky2042 | gtfo |
| 08:31.29 | Saladin | lol |
| 08:33.09 | damien4546 | vous éte anglais |
| 08:34.05 | damien4546 | you fuck my wife XD |
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| 08:42.02 | `-` | be civil fellas |
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| 12:33.05 | Trae | heh |
| 12:33.25 | Trae | #eu-druids is quite the place for spraying |
| 12:33.44 | TheOnyx | SUM DRUIDZ IZ 4 BARES? |
| 12:33.55 | Corgan | SUM DURIDS IZ 4 HEELZ |
| 12:39.47 | Trae | heh |
| 12:40.07 | Trae | yeah I'm liking my drood so far. |
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| 13:41.42 | nachos | heyo |
| 13:41.51 | Demetrious | I like nachos. |
| 13:41.51 | nachos | can a full member give a trial member stuff? |
| 13:42.07 | Demetrious | nachos: I don't think so. |
| 13:42.19 | Demetrious | But I am not totally sure. |
| 13:42.26 | nachos | i dont think so either |
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| 14:05.01 | TheOnyx | nachos: Trial members may not give or receive items in trades or mail. |
| 14:09.02 | *** join/#wowhead McLaren (n=McLarens@85.93.253.233) |
| 14:09.28 | McLaren | Hey ppl |
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| 14:11.17 | McLaren | Anyone who have a good suggestion on what i should specc my mage to get best damage? |
| 14:11.42 | Fensur | 41/0/20 |
| 14:11.43 | Fensur | or |
| 14:11.46 | Fensur | 10/48/3 |
| 14:11.49 | TecnoBrat | what kind of gear do you have? |
| 14:12.04 | TecnoBrat | mainly +dmg, or lots of crit? |
| 14:12.07 | McLaren | have the bg gear |
| 14:12.11 | Fensur | So really, Deep Fire or Deep Arcane |
| 14:12.24 | McLaren | but i can also make gear with tailoring 375 |
| 14:12.50 | McLaren | A lots of crit yes |
| 14:13.04 | Fensur | Whats your ingame name? |
| 14:13.13 | McLaren | Adrine |
| 14:13.20 | Fensur | eu/us? |
| 14:13.23 | McLaren | En |
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| 14:13.36 | Viprime | why would you take slow Fensur |
| 14:13.49 | Fensur | bah i ment 40/0/21 |
| 14:13.50 | Fensur | :p |
| 14:13.59 | Viprime | :P |
| 14:14.11 | McLaren | ok |
| 14:14.20 | Fensur | Are you on stormrage Adrine? |
| 14:14.28 | McLaren | yes |
| 14:14.56 | Fensur | ouch 300 or so dmg :p |
| 14:15.01 | Fensur | I recomend fire tbh if u can make the set |
| 14:15.24 | McLaren | ok |
| 14:15.57 | McLaren | i have Shadoweave tailoring |
| 14:16.30 | Fensur | -.- can you afford to respec? |
| 14:16.41 | McLaren | yea |
| 14:16.58 | Fensur | Go for it then, but farm the mats first since ure frost atm |
| 14:16.59 | Fensur | so easier |
| 14:17.01 | Fensur | to farm fire mobs |
| 14:17.11 | McLaren | ok |
| 14:20.54 | McLaren | its possible to get a talent tree of your suggestion? plz :) |
| 14:22.08 | TheOnyx | Fire will definitely get you the best damage... maybe a little arcane thrown in. |
| 14:22.18 | TheOnyx | It'll also eat through mana like crazy. |
| 14:22.58 | McLaren | hehe |
| 14:25.04 | McLaren | i do it well on duels etc. but when i join Arena everything just screwed up |
| 14:25.15 | [dRaCo] | McLaren: 10/48/3 as in http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=kf0VZxgMzfcIoeRt0h |
| 14:25.17 | Corgan | hmm |
| 14:25.22 | Corgan | I have to wake up in 4 hours |
| 14:25.31 | Corgan | alarms don't wake me up |
| 14:25.33 | McLaren | Thank you wery much Draco |
| 14:25.34 | Corgan | am i fucked? |
| 14:25.35 | Corgan | yes |
| 14:26.20 | TheOnyx | infobot, corgan is screwed |
| 14:26.21 | infobot | okay, TheOnyx |
| 14:26.29 | Corgan | :( |
| 14:26.31 | McLaren | hehe |
| 14:26.59 | McLaren | this is a good chanel guys |
| 14:27.08 | McLaren | c ya later |
| 14:27.13 | Corgan | penis |
| 14:27.19 | winkiller | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=20440 <- anyone sure horde can buy this one? |
| 14:28.33 | m910q | Check WoW's site |
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| 14:53.23 | Fensur | Well its sold by the horde vendor winkller |
| 14:53.46 | Fensur | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=20430 |
| 14:53.50 | Fensur | is the horde one |
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| 15:06.47 | TecnoBrat | Good morning everyone |
| 15:16.25 | Demetrious | Hi there TecnoBrat. |
| 15:17.47 | Raws | 'lo :) |
| 15:19.12 | Fensur | yo |
| 15:33.24 | McLaren | Yo fensur, i tryed the new specc now |
| 15:33.32 | Fensur | whats it like |
| 15:34.02 | McLaren | Yo fensur, i tryed the new specc now |
| 15:34.05 | McLaren | opps |
| 15:34.54 | McLaren | i did'nt get the half of the dmg on frost specced |
| 15:36.32 | TheOnyx | Fire is great for single mobs. |
| 15:36.45 | [dRaCo] | ? |
| 15:36.48 | TheOnyx | I like frost because I can handle several mobs at one. |
| 15:36.52 | [dRaCo] | fire is the boss killer |
| 15:37.03 | [dRaCo] | when soloing, frost is better |
| 15:37.38 | McLaren | ok |
| 15:38.09 | [dRaCo] | frostbolt, frost nova, spam ice lance. :þ |
| 15:38.17 | McLaren | tryed to crit in a duel but only get 1300 dmg |
| 15:38.52 | [dRaCo] | deep fire isnt that great for pvp |
| 15:39.55 | Trae | [dRaCo], what's a good pvp mage build? |
| 15:40.27 | [dRaCo] | I'd go deep frost, best survivability |
| 15:41.45 | TecnoBrat | pvp you have 2 options, depends on your group |
| 15:41.51 | TecnoBrat | deep frost, so you can live |
| 15:42.03 | [dRaCo] | some ppl prefer PoM/Pyro, but if you dont kill anyone with your burst you're totally useless |
| 15:42.07 | TecnoBrat | or like 31/30/0 |
| 15:42.16 | TecnoBrat | and blow people up with AP PoM fire |
| 15:42.39 | TecnoBrat | I do a 3v3 with a warrior and a mage |
| 15:42.44 | TecnoBrat | the page is arc/fire |
| 15:42.55 | TecnoBrat | they just blow up one target immediately |
| 15:43.00 | TecnoBrat | (I'm a paladin) |
| 15:43.04 | TecnoBrat | and BoP is hax, of course |
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| 15:45.44 | McLaren | nice |
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| 15:49.58 | TecnoBrat | then again, both the warrior and the mage are pretty geared |
| 15:50.09 | TecnoBrat | so that strategy works for us |
| 15:50.22 | TecnoBrat | I literally blink, and someone is dead |
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| 15:50.28 | McLaren | i saw 2 horde mage in nether erlyer, they was farming nethercloth's and one mage ride and get agro on 15-20 mobs and sumon WE and get in a ice block and the another do blizzard |
| 15:50.31 | TecnoBrat | morning Skosiris |
| 15:50.36 | Skosiris | hello |
| 15:50.46 | McLaren | is was amazing to watch |
| 15:51.01 | TecnoBrat | ever seen 1 prot pally aoe farm like 25 mobs? |
| 15:51.15 | TecnoBrat | up at black temple is the most common spot |
| 15:52.24 | McLaren | nice |
| 15:53.14 | Trae | anyone started thinking about what they'd like their special L80 char's end-tree abilities to be? |
| 15:53.21 | TecnoBrat | LOL http://pbfcomics.com/archive/PBF226-Preserves.jpg |
| 15:54.12 | TecnoBrat | I would like either a decent HoT or natures swiftness type spell |
| 15:54.19 | TecnoBrat | for end-tree holy paladin |
| 15:54.20 | Kaso | that was the best pbf comic in a long time TecnoBrat |
| 15:54.47 | TecnoBrat | only because then I wouldn't be stuck spamming 2 hearls |
| 15:54.50 | TecnoBrat | heals* |
| 15:57.05 | TecnoBrat | probably won't ever happen though |
| 16:03.28 | Viprime | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=9449#M0z |
| 16:03.34 | Viprime | any idea on the +attack speed at 35? |
| 16:05.20 | Viprime | 433% at 17 |
| 16:09.12 | TecnoBrat | I am doing HORRIBLY repetitious work today |
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| 16:10.38 | Kaso | Viprime, |
| 16:10.44 | Kaso | 144.37% |
| 16:10.47 | Kaso | at level 35 |
| 16:15.15 | Viprime | cool |
| 16:16.07 | Kaso | 185.62% at 29 |
| 16:22.43 | TecnoBrat | wow |
| 16:22.48 | TecnoBrat | so much QQ about WF nerf |
| 16:23.55 | rayford | Yeah. |
| 16:24.22 | rayford | No, Mal, I haven't posted anything in any of those thread. : P |
| 16:26.28 | Malgayne | someone link |
| 16:26.40 | Malgayne | oh, it's a WF totem nerf, isn't it? |
| 16:26.47 | TecnoBrat | yep |
| 16:26.49 | rayford | Yeah. |
| 16:26.56 | TecnoBrat | doesnt effect yellow attacks |
| 16:27.02 | TecnoBrat | MS, Slam, SS, etc, etc |
| 16:27.16 | TecnoBrat | does effect "next attack" abilities tho |
| 16:28.15 | TecnoBrat | wonder if that means that stormstrike on normal windfury weapon got nerfed too |
| 16:28.48 | rayford | Excellent question. |
| 16:29.47 | TecnoBrat | its the only "yellow" attack I can think for shamans |
| 16:29.59 | TecnoBrat | and I am pretty sure it could proc WF before |
| 16:32.33 | rayford | Yeah, it could. |
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| 16:36.32 | Malgayne | I wonder what brought on this decision |
| 16:38.33 | TecnoBrat | aparantly it was a bug |
| 16:38.41 | TecnoBrat | they tried to change it for the xpac |
| 16:38.45 | TecnoBrat | and didnt change it properly |
| 16:38.55 | TecnoBrat | so now they bugfixed it to the change they wanted |
| 16:38.56 | Malgayne | It was a bug that wf totem affected yellow damage initially? |
| 16:39.14 | TecnoBrat | no, it was a bug that they didnt remove it when they launched TBC |
| 16:39.52 | Malgayne | Right right--but wf totem affecting yellow damage was the bug, I mean? |
| 16:40.09 | TecnoBrat | uhh yea, I guess you could say that |
| 16:40.35 | Malgayne | Oh I see, I misread you |
| 16:40.47 | TecnoBrat | it was procing on yellow pre-BC, by design, they tried to make it no longer proc, in TBC, and screwed up |
| 16:40.55 | Malgayne | Right |
| 16:41.26 | TecnoBrat | if it just "happened" when TBC launched, no one would even notice really |
| 16:41.31 | TecnoBrat | because of all of the gear changes, etc |
| 16:41.39 | Malgayne | Well, someone would notice |
| 16:41.51 | Malgayne | And there would be an outcry about the "stealth nerf" a month later. :) |
| 16:47.50 | TheOnyx | I miss shaman of yore. :( |
| 16:47.58 | TheOnyx | Back with WF procced itself. |
| 16:48.22 | Malgayne | See that whole theory of random proc damage irritates me |
| 16:48.40 | Malgayne | I played a ret pally for a while, which is sort of the same theory |
| 16:48.51 | Malgayne | Swing a big 2 hander and pray for crits and SoC procs |
| 16:49.09 | Malgayne | Just like a 2hand enhance shaman with windfury up |
| 16:49.14 | Malgayne | Judge --> shocks etc. |
| 16:49.24 | Malgayne | And it was just incredibly annoying |
| 16:49.42 | TheOnyx | It is, now. |
| 16:49.52 | Malgayne | Well, it's the whole theory that bugs me |
| 16:50.04 | TheOnyx | That's why I'm favoring my mage and warlock over my shammy |
| 16:50.11 | Malgayne | You can measure how much dps windfury or SoC technically adds |
| 16:50.36 | Malgayne | But when you measure the dps of, say, sinister strike spam, you actually know how much dps that will be |
| 16:51.03 | TecnoBrat | duel wield shammy isn't bad |
| 16:51.24 | TecnoBrat | you get lots of procs |
| 16:51.24 | TheOnyx | One could argue that even that is subject to randomness. |
| 16:51.24 | TheOnyx | TecnoBrat: Yeah, but each proc is worth less. |
| 16:51.29 | Malgayne | With SoC or or WF, though |
| 16:51.36 | Malgayne | Yeah, it's subject to randomness |
| 16:51.38 | TecnoBrat | its true, but the randomness effects you less |
| 16:51.45 | Malgayne | But if I'm an enhancement shaman with a huge two hander |
| 16:51.54 | TecnoBrat | Oh, I'm aware |
| 16:51.55 | Malgayne | and I get a big crit + WF proc + more crits |
| 16:52.06 | TecnoBrat | My main is a paladin, SoC is fricken brutal |
| 16:52.10 | Malgayne | I can bring down 80% of a mob's health in less than a second |
| 16:52.24 | TecnoBrat | for a shaman its worse |
| 16:52.27 | TheOnyx | Malgayne: I did it for the lawls of one-shotting clothies in Pv> |
| 16:52.32 | TheOnyx | *PvP |
| 16:52.35 | TecnoBrat | because you want crits, to proc flurry, + WF procs |
| 16:52.46 | TecnoBrat | so a 2h for raid dps is horrible if you get unlucky |
| 16:52.53 | Malgayne | Yeah, but the problem is that you can bang on that same clothie for like 15 seconds |
| 16:52.57 | TecnoBrat | for duel wield, it really isn't that bad |
| 16:52.58 | Malgayne | And get nothing |
| 16:53.04 | TheOnyx | But yeah, it's unpredictable and annoying when you don't ge tthem. |
| 16:53.08 | TheOnyx | Malgayne: Yep. |
| 16:53.16 | Malgayne | And then when the clothie is at 2% THEN you get a double crit + WF proc + crit |
| 16:53.22 | Malgayne | And it's like "What good did THAT do?" |
| 16:54.10 | TheOnyx | haha |
| 16:54.16 | TheOnyx | Malgayne: I've been there. |
| 16:54.25 | TheOnyx | Malgayne: Also, tanks hate me. |
| 16:54.30 | Malgayne | So in actuality, like half of the bonus dps you get from WF etc. is wasted |
| 16:54.41 | TheOnyx | Malgayne: My aggro is so unpredictable. |
| 16:54.41 | TecnoBrat | yea, you walk up to a mob |
| 16:54.46 | TecnoBrat | auto attack |
| 16:54.48 | TecnoBrat | and WAM |
| 16:54.55 | TecnoBrat | crit + WF procs, etc |
| 16:55.06 | TheOnyx | Suddenly the boss is banging on me |
| 16:55.09 | TecnoBrat | guessw hat .. you are dead :P |
| 16:55.12 | TheOnyx | because I got 3 WF procs in a row |
| 16:55.21 | TecnoBrat | thats why duel wield is better for raid dps |
| 16:55.23 | rayford|working | TheOnyx: Thats why I'll lay my totems as the tank is building aggro, starting with whatever air totem I'm laying down. |
| 16:55.25 | Malgayne | Hehe--I always drop blessing of salvation on ray in a Raid. :) |
| 16:55.37 | TheOnyx | haha |
| 16:55.42 | rayford|working | Yeah. Typically I stay under the threat. But BoS helps a lot. |
| 16:55.56 | TecnoBrat | Malgayne, you play a paladin? |
| 16:56.01 | rayford|working | I get to go balls out right from the get-go with BoS on. |
| 16:57.58 | rayford|working | TechnoBrat: Yeah, Mal plays a Pally. |
| 17:03.49 | Malgayne | :) |
| 17:04.34 | Demetrious | Nobody generates more agro than a shadow priest. Nobody. |
| 17:04.43 | Malgayne | Ah |
| 17:04.55 | Malgayne | If only I had any first hand experience to back that up |
| 17:05.00 | Demetrious | I can pull agro from the best tank. |
| 17:05.02 | Malgayne | Wouldn't that be nice |
| 17:05.19 | Malgayne | Demetrious, you should meet Jasica sometime |
| 17:05.29 | Demetrious | Jasica? |
| 17:05.39 | TecnoBrat | Demetrious, uhhh |
| 17:05.42 | Malgayne | Jasica is a friend of mine--the tank for our static group |
| 17:05.42 | TecnoBrat | thats not true at all |
| 17:06.01 | Demetrious | TecnoBrat: What it isn't? |
| 17:06.05 | TecnoBrat | shadow priests have a 25% reduced aggro talent. |
| 17:06.17 | Demetrious | Look me up on the armory. |
| 17:06.22 | TecnoBrat | Damage per threat, shadow priests are actually lower than a lot of casters |
| 17:06.28 | TecnoBrat | err threat per damage |
| 17:06.58 | jmccaffrey | searing pain spam > shadow priest aggro |
| 17:07.02 | TecnoBrat | Yes, you can pull aggro, but you don't generate more threat compared to other casters |
| 17:07.38 | Demetrious | I have nothing to reduce agro on my talents tree, only fade (not improved neither). |
| 17:07.46 | TecnoBrat | uhhhh |
| 17:07.52 | TecnoBrat | look in your shadow tree again |
| 17:07.58 | Demetrious | And with improved VE, I pull agro like there is no tomorrow. |
| 17:07.58 | TheOnyx | That's not really something to brag about. |
| 17:08.04 | TecnoBrat | Shadow affinity |
| 17:08.07 | TecnoBrat | 2nd tier |
| 17:08.08 | Demetrious | I am not bragging :-) |
| 17:08.10 | TecnoBrat | 3 points |
| 17:08.16 | TecnoBrat | err 5 points |
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| 17:08.31 | TecnoBrat | err no, 3, total of 25% reduced threat from shadow spells |
| 17:08.36 | jmccaffrey | You do know that aggro is designed as a challenging mechanic for dps classes right? |
| 17:09.05 | Demetrious | jmccaffrey: I play and have fun. Sometimes my shadow priest tanks quite nicely. |
| 17:09.27 | jmccaffrey | Oh, now I understand totally |
| 17:09.31 | Demetrious | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-talents.xml?r=Eitrigg&n=Demetrious |
| 17:09.31 | TecnoBrat | So regardless, a mage or even a warlock generates more threat per damage than a shadow priest. |
| 17:09.32 | TheOnyx | Oh yeah? |
| 17:09.40 | TheOnyx | Well, my aggroes can beat up your aggroes! |
| 17:09.51 | Malgayne | lol |
| 17:09.53 | TecnoBrat | well Demetrious |
| 17:09.57 | TecnoBrat | you are not very smart then |
| 17:10.00 | jmccaffrey | TheOnyx: My poor usage of abilities is worse than yours! |
| 17:10.06 | TecnoBrat | since you didn't take the -shadow threat talent :P |
| 17:10.23 | Demetrious | TecnoBrat: :-) Which one? |
| 17:10.24 | Malgayne | Depends on your grouping philosophy |
| 17:10.28 | TecnoBrat | Demetrious, 2nd tier |
| 17:10.33 | TecnoBrat | one on the left |
| 17:10.41 | TecnoBrat | Shadow Affinity |
| 17:10.43 | jmccaffrey | I love the armory |
| 17:10.47 | Malgayne | That's why you guys should talk to Jasica sometime, he has a really well-thought out group philosophy |
| 17:10.51 | Demetrious | I built mainly for PvP. |
| 17:10.59 | Malgayne | He has a blog about tanking which I just adore |
| 17:11.13 | TecnoBrat | right, but this started by you saying -10:01:53- (@Demetrious) Nobody generates more agro than a shadow priest. Nobody. |
| 17:11.13 | TecnoBrat | :P |
| 17:11.35 | TecnoBrat | which is only because your talent build isn't built for pve shadow dmg at all :P |
| 17:12.14 | Demetrious | TecnoBrat: I stand corrected. Nobody generates more agro than a shadow priest with equal talent build as mine :) |
| 17:12.19 | TecnoBrat | haha |
| 17:12.27 | Malgayne | Well heck |
| 17:12.40 | Malgayne | You can just say "Nobody generates more aggro than me" |
| 17:12.48 | Malgayne | And that would be perfeclty true. :P |
| 17:12.48 | TecnoBrat | hehe |
| 17:12.52 | jmccaffrey | Even then, other classes can pull, even with PvE specs, just depends on your choice of abilities. Your job as a DPS class is to hug 99%(good ones can hug 120+% at ranged) and not pull |
| 17:13.05 | TecnoBrat | jmccaffrey, yea |
| 17:13.06 | Demetrious | Malgayne: Aha! Right. |
| 17:13.11 | TecnoBrat | I was just talking to my enh shaman about that |
| 17:13.11 | Malgayne | What I love is the misapprehension among tanks |
| 17:13.18 | TheOnyx | DONT YOU WISH YOUR AGGROES WERE HOT LIKEME DONTCHA |
| 17:13.23 | Malgayne | hehehe |
| 17:13.27 | TecnoBrat | about swapping between WF and TA in the rogue group |
| 17:13.37 | Sky2042 | 130% to aggro from range, so they should be hugging 125ish, while melee should be hugging 105%. :] |
| 17:13.39 | TecnoBrat | and making his job to keep the rogues at the top of the threat meter |
| 17:13.46 | TecnoBrat | right behind the tanks |
| 17:13.54 | Malgayne | That's an interesting though, Brat |
| 17:13.55 | TheOnyx | Malgayne: Tank blog? Link? |
| 17:14.00 | Malgayne | Not a tank blog |
| 17:14.02 | Malgayne | A personal blog |
| 17:14.04 | TecnoBrat | Malgayne, I thought so |
| 17:14.06 | jmccaffrey | Sky2042: I like to leave atleast some room for crits, esp with the warlock |
| 17:14.09 | Malgayne | Written by a friend who incidentally loves to tank |
| 17:14.19 | TheOnyx | ah |
| 17:14.34 | Sky2042 | Crits just do the damage 2x faster. they don't cause more aggro ;_; |
| 17:14.38 | Demetrious | I really like the new(?) love for shadow priests that BC has generated. Before no one wanted me. |
| 17:15.09 | Demetrious | Now, with VT and VE, plus the CC, I feel wanted. |
| 17:15.10 | jmccaffrey | Sky2042: You're saying that doing 2x the damage does not cause more aggro than doing 1x? |
| 17:15.11 | TecnoBrat | it all depends on how much threat pool the tank has |
| 17:15.18 | Malgayne | That's true sky, but nonetheless they are an essentially unpredictable aggro jump |
| 17:15.18 | TheOnyx | That's because PREISTS IZ 4 heels |
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| 17:15.27 | TecnoBrat | haha |
| 17:15.33 | TecnoBrat | you guys all said that |
| 17:15.37 | TecnoBrat | and Sky2042 was d/c :P |
| 17:15.45 | Sky2042afk | qq nubs, qq |
| 17:15.48 | Sky2042afk | >:) |
| 17:15.48 | jmccaffrey | ha |
| 17:15.54 | jmccaffrey | (12:14:55 PM) jmccaffrey: Sky2042: You're saying that doing 2x the damage does not cause more aggro than doing 1x? |
| 17:16.07 | TheOnyx | 2 > 1 |
| 17:16.10 | TheOnyx | Q.E.D. |
| 17:16.14 | Sky2042afk | innately, it does, but no, critting doesn't actually cause more aggro :O |
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| 17:16.37 | Malgayne | The damage caused from crits does not inherently generate more threat than damage from non-crits |
| 17:16.41 | Sky2042_afk | ^^^ |
| 17:16.44 | Malgayne | Crits do additional threat in proportion to their damage |
| 17:16.46 | TecnoBrat | THREAT |
| 17:16.47 | jmccaffrey | Oh, yea |
| 17:16.47 | TecnoBrat | not aggro |
| 17:16.49 | TecnoBrat | geez |
| 17:16.58 | TecnoBrat | its the same threat / dmg |
| 17:17.07 | Malgayne | We all agree on this, it's just semantics |
| 17:17.11 | TheOnyx | Yeah |
| 17:17.15 | Demetrious | A quick quiz, how many level 80 will go for the death knight grind/questline? :-) |
| 17:17.18 | TheOnyx | We're all using different words to talk about ratios. |
| 17:17.25 | TheOnyx | We should all just use the word "ratio" |
| 17:17.26 | TecnoBrat | aggro = you are getting beat by the boss :P |
| 17:17.30 | Sky2042_afk | demetrious: we don't know |
| 17:17.38 | Malgayne | HERE's the tank blog: |
| 17:17.40 | Malgayne | http://dmeroit.blogspot.com/search?q=world+of+warcraft+tank |
| 17:17.42 | Sky2042_afk | its not the only hero class to be coming :P |
| 17:17.57 | Demetrious | Sky2042_afk: If i had to guess, a 98%. |
| 17:18.05 | TecnoBrat | Sky2042, uhh what? |
| 17:18.05 | Sky2042_afk | nah |
| 17:18.07 | Sky2042_afk | 20%, tops |
| 17:18.20 | Sky2042_afk | anyway, going now |
| 17:18.21 | TecnoBrat | "its not the only hero class to be coming :P" <= uhhh |
| 17:18.22 | jmccaffrey | Who here agrees with me that Arthas will be an NPC with a faction that you can gain rep with as an infiltrator of some kind? |
| 17:18.24 | Demetrious | Really? |
| 17:18.32 | Sky2042_afk | it can't be tecnobrat |
| 17:18.43 | Sky2042_afk | just the only one at release |
| 17:18.48 | Sky2042_afk | anyway, really going now |
| 17:18.50 | Malgayne | I understand they hinted at blizzcon that they were making more |
| 17:18.52 | Sky2042_afk | mom aggro :O |
| 17:18.52 | TecnoBrat | oh, yea, okay |
| 17:18.56 | TecnoBrat | more eventually |
| 17:18.57 | TecnoBrat | yea |
| 17:19.22 | Demetrious | Eventually, right. |
| 17:19.24 | TheOnyx | I would assume that only paladins can become death knights. |
| 17:19.28 | jmccaffrey | Malgayne: There was a presentation about classes inwhich they discussed how this hero class mechanic will allow for incremental creation of hero classes |
| 17:19.34 | Demetrious | TheOnyx: No. |
| 17:20.26 | Malgayne | And that they eventually wanted to try and incorporate as many war3 type heros as possible |
| 17:20.35 | Demetrious | Death Knights is an "unlockable" new class. It doesn't relate to any existing one. That's the way I see it. |
| 17:20.54 | Demetrious | ~/is/are |
| 17:21.05 | Malgayne | As I understand it all races are capable of becoming death knights |
| 17:21.10 | jmccaffrey | Yea |
| 17:21.32 | jmccaffrey | I am under the impression that the quest will be arthas related, either given by him or something |
| 17:21.46 | TheOnyx | Yeah |
| 17:21.48 | jmccaffrey | It was hinted at that arthas will not be a boss locked away in some high level zone like illidan |
| 17:21.54 | TheOnyx | It'll start with you looting Frostmourne |
| 17:21.54 | TheOnyx | O_o |
| 17:22.23 | jmccaffrey | not hinted at, that is what they said, I take that to mean hes an NPC you can interact with. Like king of northrend or something |
| 17:22.40 | TheOnyx | that would be lame :( |
| 17:22.47 | Malgayne | why? |
| 17:23.22 | TheOnyx | Malgayne: You kill his lieutenants, you kill his minions, you thwart his plans, then you walk up to him and go "sup, got any quests for me?" |
| 17:23.42 | TheOnyx | Suspension of Disbelief: FAIL |
| 17:24.00 | jmccaffrey | Less like that, more of an infiltrator I bet |
| 17:24.07 | Malgayne | It's only lame if they do it that way |
| 17:24.18 | Malgayne | I can see you doing a series of quests to prove your loyalty to the lich king |
| 17:24.27 | Malgayne | Killing important alliance/horde npcs etc. |
| 17:24.40 | Demetrious | Actually, the questline to DK will started when you kill Hogger in heroic mode. |
| 17:24.46 | jmccaffrey | Malgayne: Or like netherwing, where you take the quest and then just stage it |
| 17:24.47 | Demetrious | started = start |
| 17:24.52 | Malgayne | And then walking in to Arthas' throne room just like ARthas walked into Lordaeron, while all the Scourge chants "One of us! one of us!" |
| 17:25.35 | jmccaffrey | Would be pro |
| 17:26.01 | jmccaffrey | 25 man naxx is going to wreck |
| 17:29.52 | rayford|working | infobot, dance |
| 17:29.53 | infobot | Sir! Too much booty in the pants, sir! |
| 17:29.53 | TecnoBrat | some of my guildmates are bitching about that |
| 17:29.57 | rayford|working | Hahaha. |
| 17:30.07 | TecnoBrat | I think I said this before, we recruited some members from Drama, one of the top US servers |
| 17:30.12 | TecnoBrat | so they have seen KT LOTS |
| 17:30.17 | TecnoBrat | while our core, never got there |
| 17:30.24 | TecnoBrat | we were 4 bosses short |
| 17:30.52 | TecnoBrat | So we have like 80% of our guild excited for naxx |
| 17:31.05 | TecnoBrat | and 20% who are like "aww man .. blizzard cutting corners .. blah blah" |
| 17:31.25 | Malgayne | Yeah |
| 17:31.29 | Malgayne | I'M excited at least |
| 17:31.32 | TecnoBrat | What I liked about Naxx is that there wasn't a lot of really random fights |
| 17:31.33 | Malgayne | But I never even cleared ZG |
| 17:31.44 | TecnoBrat | at least the ones we did |
| 17:32.05 | TecnoBrat | Spider wing was technical, positioning and transitions |
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| 17:32.35 | rayford|working | I'm excited to see Naxx, too. Screw it if its a recycled dungeon. |
| 17:33.02 | TecnoBrat | patchwerk is just a tank and spank but very dps and healing intensive fight |
| 17:34.04 | TecnoBrat | The only really random element was Maxxenas (or however the heck you spell it) |
| 17:34.12 | TecnoBrat | you could get a bunch of healers stuck to the wall |
| 17:34.19 | TecnoBrat | but thats not really that bad to handle |
| 17:34.41 | rayford|working | I read a bit about Patchwerk. He's got an enrage, right? |
| 17:34.47 | TecnoBrat | there could of been more random fights later, that I dont know about |
| 17:34.54 | TecnoBrat | yes, Patch has an enrage |
| 17:35.14 | TecnoBrat | and he hits the person with the most health besides the MT for 8-9k every 1.2 secs |
| 17:35.36 | TecnoBrat | and the MT (the person who pulls), basically has unlimited threat, you can't pull from him |
| 17:35.36 | rayford|working | So make sure you have an OT. |
| 17:35.44 | rayford|working | Oh yeah. I remember that. |
| 17:35.52 | TecnoBrat | We rolled with 1 MT, 3 OTs |
| 17:36.08 | TecnoBrat | 2 of them taking the hateful strikes rotating between them |
| 17:36.10 | jmccaffrey | We had one warrior with all dodge gear basically, it made that fight so easy |
| 17:36.23 | TecnoBrat | and the 3rd who would take the occasional |
| 17:36.27 | TecnoBrat | the "oh shit" tank |
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| 17:36.45 | TecnoBrat | remember, 10k HP used to be a lot |
| 17:36.56 | rayford|working | All dodge and stam. Thats not a bad idea. |
| 17:37.02 | jmccaffrey | It worked really well |
| 17:37.08 | TecnoBrat | so you basically have to heal a tank from 10-20% to full, in 2.4 secs |
| 17:37.18 | jmccaffrey | Allowed us healers to get alot of time out of FSR, which on that fight is key |
| 17:37.27 | jmccaffrey | Because rolling max ranks is always shadey |
| 17:38.22 | TheOnyx | Completely Random Question aimed at anyone familiar with "Beastie Boys - No Sleep Til Brooklyn": Have you ever been in The Barrens and heard one of the songs they play in that zone, then heard a riff in it and thought "That sounds like the riff from 'No Sleep Til Brooklyn'"? |
| 17:39.12 | jmccaffrey | I have not had that experience, but that is probably due to my not having in game music on usually |
| 17:39.47 | TecnoBrat | yea, so you have to do 8-9k healing every 2.4 secs, for 7 mins |
| 17:39.57 | TecnoBrat | thats if the tank doesnt dodge |
| 17:40.01 | TecnoBrat | or parry |
| 17:41.45 | Malgayne | Did you guys take a look at that tank blog? |
| 17:41.59 | TheOnyx | I'll have to look later, I'm at work now... just wanted a link . |
| 17:42.05 | Malgayne | np |
| 17:42.13 | Malgayne | The front end link is dmeroit.blogspot.com |
| 17:42.18 | TheOnyx | Some of us don't get paid to WoW :( |
| 17:42.36 | rayford|working | More like most of us. |
| 17:42.37 | TheOnyx | Although it'd be nice! |
| 17:42.48 | Malgayne | But most of the recent blogs are about Christianity, taking the bar exam, and Star Wars: Empire at War |
| 17:42.48 | rayford|working | Oh yeah. No kidding. |
| 17:42.59 | Malgayne | have you submitted your resume, Onyx? :P |
| 17:43.09 | TheOnyx | Malgayne: Yeah, on Tuesday I think. |
| 17:43.32 | Malgayne | Excellent |
| 17:43.45 | Malgayne | I have no idea who's getting in, teh resumes are going to Evilseed |
| 17:44.01 | TheOnyx | Well, Tim knows me as TheOnyx |
| 17:44.10 | TheOnyx | although the resume came from another e-mail account naturally |
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| 17:45.44 | TheOnyx | I'm just impatient when it comes to thinks about which I am excited. O_o |
| 17:45.54 | jmccaffrey | I believe we all are like that |
| 17:46.00 | Malgayne | Yeah. :) |
| 17:46.07 | Malgayne | Does Tim know you actually? |
| 17:46.25 | TheOnyx | Not in real life, but he was pretty much the guy I talked to early on when Wowhead was around |
| 17:46.34 | TheOnyx | he got a constant stream of bug reports and suggestionsf rom me |
| 17:46.44 | TheOnyx | he actually IMed me during my hiatus to ask how I was doing |
| 17:47.18 | TheOnyx | (he noticed I randomly disappeared) |
| 17:47.26 | Malgayne | Hehe |
| 17:48.14 | TheOnyx | So I assume I was missed, based on that and the fact that Skosiris was excited to see me back |
| 17:48.46 | Malgayne | We <3 you Onyx! |
| 17:48.59 | rayford|working | I don't. I find you annoying. And smelly. |
| 17:49.00 | TheOnyx | Wowhead is <3 |
| 17:49.12 | TheOnyx | rayford|working: you forget, I know you are SHENS |
| 17:49.32 | TheOnyx | So you actually just told me you find me entertaining and that I smell very nice. |
| 17:49.36 | rayford|working | Eh. I'm ok with that. I tolerate you, which is about as much on my good side sa people get. Right Mal? |
| 17:49.45 | Malgayne | Lately. :P |
| 17:51.06 | rayford|working | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:51.36 | crankford|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:51.44 | Malgayne | lol |
| 17:52.05 | TheOnyx | infobot, rayford is also <3 |
| 17:52.05 | infobot | TheOnyx: okay |
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| 17:53.01 | TheOnyx | Ahoy. |
| 17:53.28 | Malgayne | Welcome! |
| 17:53.37 | illepic | nice :) a wowhead irc :) |
| 17:53.46 | crankford|work | TheOnyx: I hate you. I am not <3! |
| 17:53.54 | TheOnyx | haha |
| 17:54.04 | crankford|work | I no longer tolerate you. >.< |
| 17:54.04 | Malgayne | Yes indeed |
| 17:54.30 | TheOnyx | rayford: </3? |
| 17:54.36 | TheOnyx | rayford: !<3 |
| 17:54.45 | Malgayne | lol |
| 17:54.45 | crankford|work | Rayford =/= <3 |
| 17:54.46 | TheOnyx | rayford: >=3 |
| 17:54.59 | TecnoBrat | Malgayne |
| 17:55.00 | crankford|work | Rayford = >:O |
| 17:55.05 | Malgayne | o|-3< |
| 17:55.12 | TecnoBrat | has this guy ever tanked in a raid? |
| 17:55.13 | crankford|work | Hahaha. |
| 17:55.20 | Malgayne | Who, Tecno? Jasica? |
| 17:55.24 | TheOnyx | e_e |
| 17:55.24 | TecnoBrat | yea |
| 17:55.31 | Malgayne | kara |
| 17:56.16 | TecnoBrat | I really find it hard to listen to anything he says after he says its better to tank multiple mobs without a shield on |
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| 17:57.11 | TheOnyx | haha |
| 17:57.26 | TheOnyx | SUM WARRIORS IS 4 REZZING |
| 17:57.43 | Malgayne | Well, think about it Tecno |
| 17:57.48 | Malgayne | For a non-prot warrior |
| 17:57.54 | Malgayne | Or a warrior who doesn't have shield slam yet |
| 17:58.02 | Malgayne | If it is feasible |
| 17:58.09 | Malgayne | It IS better to tank without a shield on |
| 17:59.30 | TecnoBrat | so basically someone who is not spec'd to tank .. and shouldn't be tanking .. okay |
| 17:59.56 | Malgayne | No, you misunderstand |
| 18:00.33 | Malgayne | The point is that damage mitigation is necessary to be a tank |
| 18:00.37 | Malgayne | But it is not HOW to be a tank |
| 18:03.14 | Malgayne | To the extent that it is feasible, a tank should always prioritize threat generation over damage mitigation |
| 18:03.27 | Malgayne | As a tank starts taking more and more damage, and tanking more and more difficult mobs |
| 18:03.30 | Malgayne | (ie raids etc.) |
| 18:03.41 | Malgayne | He needs more and more mitigation to be a viable tank |
| 18:04.52 | jmccaffrey | Hes missing the part where in non trivial content(my rogue can tank mobs in normal dungeons, they aren't meant to be hard) thats a moot point |
| 18:05.02 | jmccaffrey | Because you need the mitigation, an the spec |
| 18:05.04 | jmccaffrey | *and |
| 18:05.16 | TecnoBrat | jmccaffrey, yea, thats what I'm kinda getting at too |
| 18:05.31 | TecnoBrat | I've tanked SM armory in about the same amount of time, on my 37 shaman |
| 18:05.40 | Malgayne | Well, as noted that blog was written at lvl 38 |
| 18:05.43 | Malgayne | or so |
| 18:05.46 | TecnoBrat | right |
| 18:05.50 | Malgayne | His warrior is now 50 |
| 18:06.01 | jmccaffrey | Oh, well at that level I was in SM using howl of terror and multiple DoTing |
| 18:06.19 | Malgayne | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Draenor&n=Jasica |
| 18:06.30 | TecnoBrat | Yea, he will soon find out that it is simply not feasible to do what he is saying in a 10 man or 25 man raid |
| 18:06.34 | TecnoBrat | or a heroic |
| 18:06.48 | Malgayne | No no on |
| 18:06.49 | TecnoBrat | he tries to tank two mobs in a heroic without a shield, he'll hit the dirt |
| 18:07.01 | Malgayne | What he's saying is not "Don't use a shield, it's better that way" |
| 18:07.17 | Malgayne | What he's saying is "Only use a shield if you need it to stay alive" |
| 18:07.43 | TecnoBrat | well, thats somewhat obvious |
| 18:07.48 | TecnoBrat | lol |
| 18:08.06 | jmccaffrey | I remember doing strat with arcanite reaper and sweeping strikes pre nerf |
| 18:08.09 | jmccaffrey | Now that was tanking |
| 18:08.15 | TecnoBrat | but, there is also a big thing here. |
| 18:08.38 | TecnoBrat | having a 2h out or even duel wielding makes def stance almost useless |
| 18:08.42 | jmccaffrey | Ofcourse I had to carry 2 healers lol :( |
| 18:08.53 | TecnoBrat | which means you are generating less threat |
| 18:09.23 | jmccaffrey | What is it, 20%? |
| 18:09.26 | TecnoBrat | the MOST efficient threat generating skill a warrior has, is not shield slam |
| 18:09.28 | TecnoBrat | it is not sunder |
| 18:09.32 | TecnoBrat | it is not devastate |
| 18:09.40 | TecnoBrat | its a base skill every warrior has |
| 18:09.45 | TecnoBrat | it is called revenge |
| 18:09.46 | Fensur | wtf |
| 18:09.47 | *** join/#wowhead Lotolt (n=lotolt@f048043073.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 18:09.55 | jmccaffrey | revenge pretty much wrecks |
| 18:09.56 | Fensur | how did i get into bed |
| 18:10.08 | jmccaffrey | Fensur: Ask her that, it will go real well |
| 18:10.13 | TecnoBrat | which requires shield block |
| 18:10.27 | TecnoBrat | because you wont parry enough to use it enough |
| 18:11.23 | jmccaffrey | This makes me whistfully think of my tanking days |
| 18:11.26 | TecnoBrat | his arguement is Threat > All, as long as you stay alive |
| 18:11.49 | TecnoBrat | what I'm saying, is I believe he can generate more threat, without making him even have to worry about staying alive. |
| 18:12.02 | *** join/#wowhead PwnfaceIsPwn (n=johnfker@cpe-069-132-220-083.carolina.res.rr.com) |
| 18:12.06 | PwnfaceIsPwn | hayyyy u guyssss |
| 18:12.11 | TecnoBrat | jmccaffrey, me too, haha |
| 18:12.17 | jmccaffrey | Maybe, but you gotta remember at level 38 how damage is so overpowered |
| 18:12.22 | jmccaffrey | Warriors just wreck |
| 18:12.35 | TecnoBrat | jmccaffrey, you may be right, yea |
| 18:12.54 | *** join/#wowhead evilgeekgrl (n=evilgeek@138.9.31.151) |
| 18:13.22 | evilgeekgrl | hi |
| 18:13.40 | TecnoBrat | hey evilgeekgrl |
| 18:13.47 | evilgeekgrl | im so tired |
| 18:13.56 | evilgeekgrl | working my arse off |
| 18:14.09 | TecnoBrat | Threat per rage: revenge > shield slam > devastate 5 > improved sunder > sunder > devastate 0 |
| 18:14.09 | TecnoBrat | Threat per sec: shield slam > revenge > devastate 5 > improved sunder = sunder > devastate 0 |
| 18:14.16 | evilgeekgrl | but i really cant complain because like 90% of the time i get to screw around, just busy because are doing email migrations |
| 18:14.24 | TecnoBrat | every warrior needs to read that |
| 18:14.57 | jmccaffrey | evilgeekgrl: To or from exchange? |
| 18:15.03 | evilgeekgrl | to exchange |
| 18:15.12 | evilgeekgrl | from novell |
| 18:15.18 | jmccaffrey | My office might be moving to google, that should be fun |
| 18:15.44 | evilgeekgrl | to gmail? |
| 18:15.54 | jmccaffrey | Google apps for enterprise |
| 18:16.02 | evilgeekgrl | oh i hate gmail |
| 18:16.03 | evilgeekgrl | lol |
| 18:16.05 | crankford|work | Howdy evilgeekgrl. |
| 18:16.09 | jmccaffrey | Lol why |
| 18:16.17 | Demetrious | evilgeekgrl: I love Gmail. |
| 18:16.20 | evilgeekgrl | i bought a domain and had my husband setup imap for me on one of his servers at work |
| 18:16.29 | evilgeekgrl | it sucks for sorting mail |
| 18:16.32 | evilgeekgrl | i hate pop |
| 18:16.42 | jmccaffrey | pop is pretty bad |
| 18:16.48 | jmccaffrey | But I just use the web interface |
| 18:16.53 | Demetrious | evilgeekgrl: what sucks for sorting mail, your husband IMAP or Gmail? |
| 18:17.10 | jmccaffrey | I don't sort w/ gmail, just search |
| 18:17.13 | evilgeekgrl | gmail does |
| 18:17.17 | evilgeekgrl | i cant stand that |
| 18:17.22 | evilgeekgrl | i dont want to see all the emails |
| 18:17.23 | Demetrious | Search and tags, awesomeness. |
| 18:17.24 | jmccaffrey | like "Warcraft cd keys" and I get the mail that has my keys in it :) |
| 18:17.56 | Demetrious | Tags = Folder. Treat them like that, all fixed. |
| 18:18.32 | evilgeekgrl | it doesnt work that way |
| 18:18.39 | Demetrious | evilgeekgrl: ?? |
| 18:18.41 | evilgeekgrl | the stupid tags do not move them out of my inbox |
| 18:18.48 | Demetrious | Archive. |
| 18:18.57 | evilgeekgrl | lets face it |
| 18:19.02 | evilgeekgrl | gmail is gay compared to imap |
| 18:19.06 | evilgeekgrl | its that simple |
| 18:19.06 | jmccaffrey | It is just different |
| 18:19.13 | evilgeekgrl | i tried it for 4 months |
| 18:19.17 | evilgeekgrl | i hated it the whole time |
| 18:19.24 | Demetrious | evilgeekgrl: now that I hear gay, I have no further comments :) |
| 18:19.31 | jmccaffrey | You take a mail, tag it, archive it, maybe star? then you're done |
| 18:19.49 | evilgeekgrl | i dont want to archive it |
| 18:19.54 | jmccaffrey | Why |
| 18:19.55 | evilgeekgrl | ok so heres how my email is setup |
| 18:20.02 | evilgeekgrl | i have a ton of rules for all my emails |
| 18:20.04 | Demetrious | Maybe #gmail? |
| 18:20.07 | evilgeekgrl | that sorts them into folders |
| 18:20.20 | evilgeekgrl | gmail cant do that because its dumb i have to do it manually |
| 18:20.24 | Demetrious | Or #ihategmail, for what it seems. |
| 18:20.50 | evilgeekgrl | :) |
| 18:21.29 | Demetrious | evilgeekgrl: Gmail is not for everyone. Only the attuned ones can fully enjoy it. :-P |
| 18:21.41 | evilgeekgrl | pfft imap is far superior! |
| 18:21.53 | Demetrious | Pears and oranges. |
| 18:22.11 | TecnoBrat | uhhh evilgeekgrl, you can make rules in gmail |
| 18:22.22 | Demetrious | For me, a database backed email system gets the upper hand. |
| 18:22.39 | evilgeekgrl | no you can make labels |
| 18:22.45 | Saladin | you can make filters |
| 18:22.46 | TecnoBrat | jmccaffrey, I use google apps, its great |
| 18:22.51 | TecnoBrat | yes evilgeekgrl |
| 18:22.54 | TecnoBrat | and those are folders |
| 18:22.56 | jmccaffrey | TecnoBrat: For work? |
| 18:23.01 | TecnoBrat | you can make it now show in your inbox |
| 18:23.09 | TecnoBrat | and only in the label |
| 18:23.12 | TecnoBrat | so its teh same thing |
| 18:23.24 | evilgeekgrl | well then it wasnt working that way when i was using it |
| 18:23.32 | jmccaffrey | (beta) *ducks* |
| 18:23.41 | evilgeekgrl | i like imap better, mac mail has a awesome junk mail system |
| 18:23.47 | TheOnyx | Gmail has always had filters and labels as long as I've used it. |
| 18:23.57 | Demetrious | TheOnyx: You are correct. |
| 18:24.04 | TecnoBrat | evilgeekgrl, you need to click the "skip inbox" option |
| 18:24.38 | evilgeekgrl | whatever! i dont like the threading thing either! |
| 18:24.47 | TecnoBrat | jmccaffrey, for my own personal domains |
| 18:24.50 | TheOnyx | I don't think we're arguing POP vs IMAP here. |
| 18:25.03 | Malgayne | I like the threading in most cases |
| 18:25.04 | Demetrious | evilgeekgrl: I am sure I don't like your husband, but that doesn't make him a bad man :-P |
| 18:25.36 | jmccaffrey | Threading is better than |
| 18:25.44 | jmccaffrey | >>>>>> RE: LOL crap |
| 18:25.49 | Malgayne | Only problem is that you can't manually un-thread things |
| 18:25.52 | Demetrious | jmccaffrey: :-) |
| 18:26.14 | *** join/#wowhead themani (i=bh@grom.polpo.org) |
| 18:26.15 | Demetrious | Malgayne: You can. Use Mutt, or get the Headers editor plugin for Thunderbird. |
| 18:26.20 | evilgeekgrl | ok lets just leave it at i like mac mail better than gmail :) |
| 18:26.26 | Demetrious | Then you can correct threads. |
| 18:26.29 | Demetrious | At will. |
| 18:26.36 | Malgayne | We use gmail for thw owhead inbox |
| 18:26.50 | Malgayne | Which is nice except for when someone decides to reply to the automatically generated account signup email |
| 18:26.50 | TheOnyx | Demetrious: Using another piece of software to fix an issue with another one isn't really a fix. |
| 18:27.06 | TheOnyx | I think the point is that some people don't want threads, and G-mail does not provide that functionality. |
| 18:27.07 | Demetrious | TheOnyx: It is precisely that. |
| 18:27.26 | TheOnyx | You can work around that, but a workaround is not a "fix". |
| 18:27.38 | Demetrious | Semantics. It is a fix for me. |
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| 18:28.01 | TheOnyx | If you consider masking a problem to have resolved it, then sure. |
| 18:28.24 | Demetrious | TheOnyx: The problem is users using old threads to initiate new ones. |
| 18:29.06 | TheOnyx | Demetrious: Tell that to the users. ;) |
| 18:29.19 | themani | i just use yahoo mail and dont care at all about threads =) |
| 18:29.22 | Demetrious | Hehehe, indeed. Users are the root of all problems. |
| 18:30.22 | jmccaffrey | I actually use windows live mail for most things these days |
| 18:30.37 | Demetrious | themani: These days, whoever doesn't use Gmail, IMAP or their own server implementation or POP3/IMAP4, doesn't count :-P |
| 18:30.43 | TecnoBrat | Malgayne, you should send that from a no-reply address :P |
| 18:30.48 | jmccaffrey | Not too bad, I like how they have a real email client for home use so I don't HAVE to use my browser |
| 18:30.49 | Demetrious | And that includes Yahoo, Hotmail, AOL, etc :-D |
| 18:31.01 | themani | oh, i don't count |
| 18:31.02 | themani | i see |
| 18:31.05 | themani | g2k |
| 18:31.08 | Demetrious | themani: <# |
| 18:31.14 | Demetrious | themani: <3 |
| 18:31.16 | Demetrious | :-) |
| 18:31.18 | themani | i barely use email anyway |
| 18:31.32 | jmccaffrey | pdigin.im |
| 18:31.32 | Demetrious | http://five.sentenc.es/ |
| 18:31.37 | jmccaffrey | *pidgin.im |
| 18:31.42 | TecnoBrat | I like gmail because of its spam filter |
| 18:31.43 | *** join/#wowhead Malgayne_ (n=Malgayne@h-66-166-53-154.lsanca54.covad.net) |
| 18:31.55 | TecnoBrat | I ran my own email server |
| 18:31.55 | Malgayne_ | Woo |
| 18:31.57 | Malgayne_ | revolving door |
| 18:32.02 | TecnoBrat | and dealing with spam was the issue |
| 18:32.19 | TecnoBrat | just too much fricken work to make sure the filters were always good |
| 18:32.27 | TecnoBrat | with gmail, I don't have to worry about it |
| 18:32.32 | Demetrious | TecnoBrat: Spamassassin, TMDA, done. I get zero spam. |
| 18:32.50 | Demetrious | I forgot, Postfix. |
| 18:33.01 | jmccaffrey | sendmail? |
| 18:33.11 | TheOnyx | two cans and a piece of string? |
| 18:33.13 | Demetrious | jmccaffrey: Nah. |
| 18:33.16 | Malgayne_ | oh, get this |
| 18:33.22 | evilgeekgrl | lol someone is flipping out screaming not to buy enchants from me because i charge too much |
| 18:33.37 | jmccaffrey | Lets get your reputation back on track then! |
| 18:33.44 | jmccaffrey | Ill take your first free mongoose ofcourse |
| 18:33.44 | Malgayne_ | Evilgeek--all publicity is good publicity |
| 18:33.58 | evilgeekgrl | i dont have mongoose! |
| 18:34.00 | Demetrious | evilgeekgrl: you greedy bastard! :-P . Seriously, I don't understand people. If they thing it is too much, do not buy... |
| 18:34.07 | evilgeekgrl | exactly Demetrious |
| 18:34.36 | evilgeekgrl | ppl were replying back to them, saying why shouldnt she charge getting those formulas is a lot of work |
| 18:34.47 | evilgeekgrl | then someones like its not that she charges she over charges |
| 18:34.53 | Demetrious | Hehehe |
| 18:35.11 | Demetrious | Out-of-guild drama. Trade channel drama. |
| 18:35.12 | evilgeekgrl | i said why the hell is someone from eternal regin bitching about it anyway, i have a lot of ppl give me mroe than i asked for maybe im not over priced you are just CHEAP |
| 18:35.13 | Malgayne_ | Just let them talk |
| 18:35.26 | evilgeekgrl | besides they should be getting someone in guild to do it, or do their own guildies charge them |
| 18:35.27 | TecnoBrat | Demetrious, I've had my email addy for like 10 years :P |
| 18:35.27 | jmccaffrey | On my server you can't even read trade chat |
| 18:35.32 | evilgeekgrl | ER is the most progressed guild on our server |
| 18:35.37 | jmccaffrey | Because its spammed by legendaries 24/7 |
| 18:35.42 | jmccaffrey | Real dumb, I don't understand it |
| 18:35.49 | TecnoBrat | Demetrious, lots of shit gets through, and I'm way to lazy to try to get my spam filters that good |
| 18:35.49 | Malgayne_ | AT one point |
| 18:35.51 | Malgayne_ | On my server |
| 18:36.09 | Malgayne_ | We had a streak where people (back in the global LFG days) were spamming LFG with the names of movies |
| 18:36.16 | Malgayne_ | With one of the words replaced with "Murloc" |
| 18:36.21 | Saladin | hahaha |
| 18:36.22 | jmccaffrey | lol wow |
| 18:36.23 | Saladin | Classic |
| 18:36.25 | Malgayne_ | It it continued nonstop for nearly 48 hours |
| 18:36.40 | jmccaffrey | This legendaries thing has been going like a week now |
| 18:36.41 | Demetrious | TecnoBrat: netbros.com, since 1998. Got earlier ones, but lost them. |
| 18:36.41 | Malgayne_ | I would log out, go to sleep, wake up, and log on and they'd still be at it |
| 18:36.42 | jmccaffrey | its real bad |
| 18:37.22 | Skosiris | TheOnyx, |
| 18:37.23 | Skosiris | [13:46] <TheOnyx> he actually IMed me during my hiatus to ask how I was doing |
| 18:37.23 | Skosiris | [13:47] <TheOnyx> (he noticed I randomly disappeared) |
| 18:37.31 | Skosiris | I was that guy :) |
| 18:37.33 | evilgeekgrl | this morning trade channel was being spammed by people arguing about who was lazier |
| 18:37.39 | TecnoBrat | lol |
| 18:37.40 | Skosiris | (wasn't Tim) |
| 18:37.48 | TheOnyx | Oh, crap |
| 18:37.51 | TecnoBrat | Yea, Skosiris keeps im'ing me |
| 18:37.53 | TheOnyx | Skosiris: Sorry :) |
| 18:38.00 | Malgayne_ | Skosiris = Guillaume |
| 18:38.01 | TecnoBrat | complaining that I am slacking |
| 18:38.04 | TecnoBrat | ~TecnoBrat |
| 18:38.05 | infobot | hmm... tecnobrat is the king of slacking, or an editor on wowhead |
| 18:38.05 | Malgayne_ | Evilseed = Tim |
| 18:38.05 | TheOnyx | Wonder why I thought it was tim. |
| 18:38.12 | TecnoBrat | :P |
| 18:38.24 | evilgeekgrl | so you know whats funny |
| 18:38.35 | evilgeekgrl | anyone that uses entourage gets an error everytime they launch the client |
| 18:38.48 | Demetrious | TecnoBrat: TMDA is a challenge/response system (http://tmda.net/). Once setup right, it works like a charm. |
| 18:38.52 | evilgeekgrl | about that it cant read the root server for the secure certificate or something |
| 18:38.55 | TecnoBrat | evilgeekgrl, when your friend accidentally snorts milk up his nose |
| 18:39.03 | evilgeekgrl | its been that way for months, while we were testing the server |
| 18:39.06 | evilgeekgrl | and they never fixed it |
| 18:39.23 | evilgeekgrl | their fix was to use a different server, that you cant send emails through if you are off campus |
| 18:39.36 | TecnoBrat | Demetrious, ahhh yea, those system work pretty wekk |
| 18:39.38 | TecnoBrat | well* |
| 18:39.40 | evilgeekgrl | which is funny because a lot of our macs are laptops |
| 18:39.44 | TheOnyx | Skosiris: heh... you even signed it with your name... I just rememebred the address |
| 18:39.48 | TecnoBrat | however gmail misses like 2 spam a week, if that |
| 18:39.50 | TheOnyx | although that coudl have been any of you |
| 18:39.53 | TecnoBrat | so I'm liking that :) |
| 18:39.55 | Demetrious | evilgeekgrl: Some people still uses Entourage? ;) |
| 18:40.14 | evilgeekgrl | umm well we are using exchange and... well we are mac users |
| 18:40.18 | evilgeekgrl | what are you supposed to use? |
| 18:40.35 | evilgeekgrl | out main IT office will only support entourage on macs |
| 18:40.43 | Demetrious | Exchange can be accessed via IMAP/POP... |
| 18:40.53 | Demetrious | But Calendar doesn't work that way, true. |
| 18:40.55 | evilgeekgrl | not pop here |
| 18:41.06 | evilgeekgrl | pop is disabled for security reasons |
| 18:41.17 | Demetrious | I feel your pain about Exchange, I administer one. |
| 18:41.22 | evilgeekgrl | and yes we share calendars have delagated users etc |
| 18:41.41 | Demetrious | But we have no Mac users. We are a Windows shop. |
| 18:42.41 | evilgeekgrl | we have both |
| 18:43.03 | evilgeekgrl | we are not haters, we love all |
| 18:43.14 | crankford|work | Do you even love me? |
| 18:43.20 | Demetrious | Hehe, I just work, for money, you know... |
| 18:43.23 | Demetrious | :-) |
| 18:43.57 | evilgeekgrl | it depends, what kind of car do you drive! >.< lol |
| 18:43.58 | Demetrious | crankford|work: I am sure they love you too. |
| 18:44.18 | crankford|work | Curses. I'm not being surly enough. |
| 18:44.26 | crankford|work | evilgeekgrl: I drive a Pontiac. |
| 18:44.27 | TheOnyx | ~rayford |
| 18:44.28 | infobot | i guess rayford is a Wowhead editor, and Malgayne's GM on Draenor. He is the roxoration. He is always angry, and eats babies. SHENS, or <3 |
| 18:44.35 | evilgeekgrl | what kind of pontiac |
| 18:44.42 | TheOnyx | <3 |
| 18:44.48 | rayford|work | Sunfire. |
| 18:44.59 | evilgeekgrl | sorry, i cant love you |
| 18:45.07 | rayford|work | Ok. Cool. I can live with that. |
| 18:45.11 | evilgeekgrl | :) |
| 18:45.25 | rayford|work | Though truth be told, I don't really drive. I bike to work. |
| 18:45.32 | evilgeekgrl | but i do like you for buying american |
| 18:45.34 | Demetrious | With gas prices are they are, I drive nippon. |
| 18:45.35 | TheOnyx | I carpool! |
| 18:45.59 | evilgeekgrl | i drive an hhr baby |
| 18:46.07 | evilgeekgrl | <3 my hhr |
| 18:46.09 | Demetrious | Save me gas money and repair money. It never breaks. |
| 18:46.29 | Demetrious | hhr? |
| 18:46.36 | rayford|work | I'd love to get a Jeep Wrangler. Not those ridiculous 4 doors. The 2 door Jeeps. |
| 18:46.38 | Demetrious | Is that a new instance? :-) |
| 18:47.04 | evilgeekgrl | http://www.chevrolet.com/hhr |
| 18:47.17 | evilgeekgrl | i have blue 2lt |
| 18:47.22 | evilgeekgrl | with the leather and everything |
| 18:47.25 | McLaren | Any one know what 21-4-0 on talent tree? |
| 18:47.28 | rayford|work | Oh. Those. They're hideous. |
| 18:47.35 | McLaren | 21-40-0* |
| 18:47.40 | Demetrious | Oh. I see. |
| 18:47.48 | evilgeekgrl | thats why its cool |
| 18:47.50 | evilgeekgrl | its so ugly |
| 18:47.52 | Demetrious | McLaren: Are you talking, what class? |
| 18:48.29 | McLaren | Mage |
| 18:48.29 | evilgeekgrl | none of those really look like mine though, i have the fancy wheels, rear spoiler, running boards and roof rack |
| 18:48.39 | Demetrious | McLaren: OK, no idea, sorry. |
| 18:48.57 | Demetrious | evilgeekgrl: Still a Chevrolet :) |
| 18:49.02 | McLaren | whanna be pom pyro mage |
| 18:49.17 | evilgeekgrl | i grew up in michigan, my parents worked for gm, my mom still does |
| 18:49.21 | evilgeekgrl | she is an engineer |
| 18:49.26 | Demetrious | I have no respect for any american car at the moment. |
| 18:49.31 | evilgeekgrl | i get a BIG discount |
| 18:49.36 | *** join/#wowhead Inc` (n=mgast@pool-71-123-194-35.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) |
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| 18:49.40 | evilgeekgrl | well thats your problem not mine :P |
| 18:49.54 | Demetrious | Japanese cars beat any of them. |
| 18:50.07 | evilgeekgrl | beat them as in what? looks i dont agree |
| 18:50.19 | Demetrious | But I understand the discount part. A have an uncle retired from GM too. |
| 18:50.24 | evilgeekgrl | thats a broad statement |
| 18:50.27 | Demetrious | All he buys is GM, for the same reason. |
| 18:50.37 | Demetrious | evilgeekgrl: Quality. |
| 18:50.41 | Demetrious | Looks. |
| 18:50.49 | evilgeekgrl | looks =/not in my book |
| 18:50.58 | evilgeekgrl | i have not seen EVER a foreign car i liked |
| 18:51.09 | evilgeekgrl | MAYBE a sports car |
| 18:51.21 | Malgayne_ | I just got a new car a few months ago |
| 18:51.31 | Demetrious | Quality. Of course, if someone wants a japanese car to accomodate a huge behind, they need to pay more money. |
| 18:51.41 | themani | lots of wow chat in here |
| 18:51.50 | Demetrious | themani: Hehehe |
| 18:52.09 | Malgayne_ | http://automobiles.honda.com/fit/ |
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| 18:52.29 | evilgeekgrl | fit? that is a throw away car |
| 18:52.56 | evilgeekgrl | id rather live in a trailer than drive that thing |
| 18:53.02 | Malgayne_ | I adore it |
| 18:53.39 | Demetrious | And I have noticed one thing. Even japanese cars that are assembled in the States, suffer from finish problems. There is something about cars manufactured in Japan. They take the pride we used to take in the things we made. They still do, we don't. |
| 18:54.42 | evilgeekgrl | hrm |
| 18:54.48 | evilgeekgrl | how do you guys link images in here |
| 18:54.56 | evilgeekgrl | do they have to be on a website somewhere? |
| 18:55.02 | Malgayne_ | Yup |
| 18:55.48 | evilgeekgrl | ok so what do i do wen its on a website |
| 18:56.08 | Malgayne_ | Right click on the image and click "Copy image location" |
| 18:56.12 | Malgayne_ | Then paste text in here |
| 18:56.18 | TheOnyx | (In Firefox) |
| 18:56.48 | TheOnyx | It's a bit different for IE |
| 18:56.48 | Demetrious | Drag and drop the image on the address bar. That's the URI. |
| 18:57.14 | Malgayne_ | pardon |
| 18:57.18 | TheOnyx | IE, you have to right-click, go to properties, and copy the URL |
| 18:57.26 | evilgeekgrl | ok i dont have that option i ws using safari |
| 18:57.27 | evilgeekgrl | http://www.theniffs.com/sarasjunk/car/hhr.JPG |
| 18:57.32 | evilgeekgrl | ok well i guess that works |
| 18:57.51 | evilgeekgrl | its all squished up on my screen lol |
| 18:58.34 | Demetrious | I can see you reflected in the car :) |
| 18:59.20 | evilgeekgrl | pfft no you cant |
| 18:59.28 | evilgeekgrl | i didnt even take the pics |
| 18:59.31 | Demetrious | Haha, made you look! :-P |
| 18:59.52 | rayford|work | Its still a hideous car. |
| 19:00.12 | evilgeekgrl | eh i like it :P |
| 19:00.24 | evilgeekgrl | http://www.theniffs.com/sarasjunk/car/mustang.jpg |
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| 19:01.07 | rayford|work | The 'stang is sexy. |
| 19:01.17 | rayford|work | Your car? Not so much. |
| 19:02.40 | Demetrious | Got to dash, have a nice weekeend everyone! |
| 19:02.49 | evilgeekgrl | thats my husbands |
| 19:02.50 | themani | http://bh.polpo.org/alfa/ |
| 19:02.52 | themani | ^^ my car |
| 19:02.53 | themani | =p |
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| 19:04.40 | rayford|work | http://www.jeep.com/en/2007/wrangler/index.html <----/want! |
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| 19:10.32 | Malgayne_ | I always had a fondness for cars like that |
| 19:10.36 | Malgayne_ | Would never get one |
| 19:10.50 | Malgayne_ | Couldn't justify it, because I don't like all the things it's good for |
| 19:11.17 | themani | i just take mine to car shows |
| 19:12.32 | rayford|work | A Jeep? I wouldn't take it offroad so much. But take the doors and the top off, and that thing is rockin. Especially in the summer. |
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| 19:33.54 | evilgeekgrl | hmm stupid msg asking for my password to auth me comes up behind my winow |
| 19:33.55 | evilgeekgrl | window |
| 19:35.30 | rayford|work | Better than the stupid people asking me to help them with stuff that they should know, that I've never used before. |
| 19:36.32 | hiawani | rayford|work: pls 2 halp me 2 fix our company [Proprietary Firewall] |
| 19:36.42 | hiawani | :> |
| 19:37.41 | rayford|work | Nah, its more like, "ROMG! ray can u halp me w/printeng a file from *insert program Ray has never used before*???!!1" |
| 19:37.59 | hiawani | haha |
| 19:38.43 | evilgeekgrl | Demetrious: i fixed it |
| 19:39.51 | rayford|work | And I'm like, "escuse me. WTF makes u think that i can halp u w/*program*? u uses it all teh time lawls!" |
| 19:39.53 | evilgeekgrl | haha i found my husbands proposal on the server |
| 19:40.09 | evilgeekgrl | http://www.theniffs.com/proposal/ |
| 19:40.16 | evilgeekgrl | thats a saved techbargains page |
| 19:42.52 | evilgeekgrl | http://www.dailytech.com/Blogger+finds+Y2K+bug+in+NASA+Climate+Data/article8383.htm |
| 19:45.49 | rayford|work | >.> |
| 19:45.50 | evilgeekgrl | OMG ITS THE WEEKENDDDDDD |
| 19:45.52 | evilgeekgrl | BYE! |
| 19:46.01 | Malgayne_ | Bye Geek. :) |
| 19:46.14 | jmccaffrey | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:46.27 | TheOnyx | Needs more 1h from now. |
| 19:46.39 | rayford|work | Dagnabbit. I was gonna paste something in response to her link. : / |
| 19:46.52 | rayford|work | I am the opposite of happy right now. Unhappy. |
| 19:46.57 | TheOnyx | Cranky? |
| 19:47.08 | TheOnyx | Crotchety? |
| 19:47.31 | rayford|work | Nah. The story I was gonna like is teh hilarious. |
| 19:47.50 | rayford|work | Well, yeah, ok. I'm cranky. But that goes without saying. |
| 19:47.51 | rayford|work | ~rayford |
| 19:47.52 | infobot | rayford is, like, a Wowhead editor, and Malgayne's GM on Draenor. He is the roxoration. He is always angry, and eats babies. SHENS, or <3 |
| 19:48.00 | rayford|work | See? |
| 19:48.06 | TheOnyx | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:48.31 | rayford|work | Yeah. I'll be hurting you for htat. |
| 19:48.33 | rayford|work | *that. |
| 19:48.33 | Skosiris | ~TheOnyx |
| 19:48.34 | infobot | theonyx is, like, doing it for the lawls, or the winner of The Internet |
| 19:48.36 | jmccaffrey | Firefox as an irc client is probably bad |
| 19:48.43 | Skosiris | lol |
| 19:49.40 | TheOnyx | Seen rayford, to know why I added the part about <3, you just need to see what infobot says about me! |
| 19:49.49 | TheOnyx | s/seen/see |
| 19:50.39 | jmccaffrey | Doing it for the lawls |
| 19:50.45 | TheOnyx | Yes! |
| 19:50.56 | TheOnyx | That's like 90% of my motivation for anything. |
| 19:51.57 | rayford|work | Orly? |
| 19:52.01 | rayford|work | infobot, forget rayford |
| 19:52.01 | infobot | rayford|work: i forgot rayford |
| 19:52.29 | rayford | infobot, Rayford hates TheOnyx, and wishes he could hate TheOnyx to death. Rayford is fueled by his infinite rage. |
| 19:52.30 | infobot | rayford: what are you talking about? |
| 19:52.35 | rayford | Curses! |
| 19:52.54 | TheOnyx | infobot, rayford is a plagarist who steals from Penny Arcade |
| 19:52.54 | infobot | TheOnyx: okay |
| 19:52.59 | rayford | Hahaha. |
| 19:53.30 | Skosiris | test |
| 19:53.35 | Skosiris | sko a b c |
| 19:53.39 | TheOnyx | Skosiris: ACK |
| 19:54.35 | TheOnyx | ~skosiris |
| 19:54.35 | infobot | from memory, skosiris is playing with his money. |
| 19:55.17 | Skosiris | infobot, Skosiris also creates new stuff for Wowhead every now and then |
| 19:55.34 | TheOnyx | ~lag |
| 19:55.35 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, lag is very bad here :( |
| 19:55.53 | TheOnyx | infobot, you suck |
| 19:55.54 | infobot | and very well I might add |
| 19:56.01 | Skosiris | lol |
| 19:57.22 | hiawani | ... hawt |
| 19:57.36 | TheOnyx | infobot, rayford is also made out of sunshine and rainbows |
| 19:57.37 | infobot | okay, TheOnyx |
| 19:58.24 | rayford | I have nothing to add. |
| 19:58.46 | Skosiris | ~rayford |
| 19:58.47 | infobot | i heard rayford is a plagarist who steals from Penny Arcade, or made out of sunshine and rainbows |
| 19:58.47 | TheOnyx | This message intentionally left blank. |
| 20:00.55 | TecnoBrat | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v149/keely30/ATT00026.jpg |
| 20:01.42 | rayford | Hahaha. |
| 20:02.21 | TheOnyx | Wal-Mart is serious business,. |
| 20:02.49 | TecnoBrat | lolol |
| 20:03.34 | hiawani | considering my trips to walmart |
| 20:03.38 | hiawani | does that mean she like |
| 20:03.44 | hiawani | doesn't wear pants? |
| 20:04.16 | hiawani | Because the standards to go to walmart seem pretty damn low, I see people wearing their bedclothes in there all the time |
| 20:04.21 | hiawani | I've seen people in bathrobes |
| 20:05.02 | Sky2042 | infobot, forget skosiris |
| 20:05.03 | infobot | Sky2042: i forgot skosiris |
| 20:05.21 | Sky2042 | infobot, skosiris is the master programmer on wowhead. |
| 20:05.22 | infobot | okay, Sky2042 |
| 20:06.03 | Sky2042 | infobot, skosiris is also a slacker. |
| 20:06.03 | infobot | okay, Sky2042 |
| 20:06.06 | Sky2042 | ;) |
| 20:07.00 | Skosiris | :D |
| 20:07.05 | Skosiris | ~skosiris |
| 20:07.05 | infobot | i guess skosiris is the master programmer on wowhead. a slacker. |
| 20:07.44 | Sky2042 | infobot, no, skosiris is the master programmer and slacker on wowhead. |
| 20:07.44 | infobot | okay, Sky2042 |
| 20:07.48 | Sky2042 | there we go |
| 20:07.51 | Sky2042 | ~skosiris |
| 20:07.51 | infobot | skosiris is probably the master programmer and slacker on wowhead. |
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| 20:08.06 | *** mode/#wowhead [+o Anacleto] by ChanServ |
| 20:08.36 | Skosiris | Anacleto? |
| 20:08.48 | Anacleto | Skosiris: Hi there! |
| 20:09.00 | Anacleto | This is Demetrious @ home. |
| 20:09.10 | Anacleto | Same mask. |
| 20:09.12 | Anacleto | :-) |
| 20:09.12 | Skosiris | Hello :) |
| 20:09.49 | Anacleto | Going to update my Ace addons, crossing fingers, hehehe. |
| 20:10.40 | Fensur | www.wowhead.com |
| 20:11.23 | TecnoBrat | I'm glad you linked that site |
| 20:11.29 | TecnoBrat | I might of forgot that url |
| 20:11.30 | TecnoBrat | :P |
| 20:11.35 | *** join/#wowhead Chav (n=huot32@mail.tricycleinc.com) |
| 20:11.50 | Fensur | i just wanted to double click on it ;l |
| 20:12.08 | TecnoBrat | rofl |
| 20:12.27 | Chav | Is there any way to pull the info from WoWHead DB without using the Wowhead site? |
| 20:12.54 | Anacleto | Chav: Lightheaded addon has done it. I am not sure how. |
| 20:13.48 | Chav | Hmmmm |
| 20:13.49 | TecnoBrat | Chav, what are you looking to do exactly? |
| 20:14.05 | Chav | Ummm promise not to steal my idea :P |
| 20:14.06 | hiawani | That screws them though |
| 20:14.13 | hiawani | They make money from advertising |
| 20:14.55 | Chav | I want to build a flash app that allows you to actually change your gear and see the changes it makes on the screen |
| 20:15.28 | Chav | Armory is great to see upgrades but you can't apply those items back to you and see how much of an increase it is... |
| 20:16.27 | Chav | there just isn't a way to see how much change a piece will be untill you get it and put it on or do all the calcs... |
| 20:16.51 | Anacleto | Chav: Why not to grab the information from the WoW data files themselves? |
| 20:17.39 | Anacleto | Oh, you want stats too... hmmm |
| 20:17.46 | Chav | yeah i thought about that... but that means data / memory level access and then i have to create my own search functions... I mean Wowhead seach system is one of the best |
| 20:17.57 | Chav | and no point re-invinting the wheel if possible |
| 20:18.02 | Anacleto | You could query the server, by doing your own addons (or using an existing one)... |
| 20:18.06 | Corgan | ~corgan |
| 20:18.06 | infobot | you are, like, screwed |
| 20:18.09 | Corgan | lool |
| 20:18.39 | Chav | initially it won't be an addon.. just sits on a webpage as an kinda like the Talent Calculators do now |
| 20:18.58 | Chav | as an app* |
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| 20:54.45 | Malgayne_ | Hey draco |
| 20:54.45 | [dRaCo] | heya :) |
| 20:54.53 | [dRaCo] | why do rogues and shamans share their t4 tokens? :/ |
| 20:55.08 | rayford | Excellent question. Got your token ninjaed, did ya? |
| 20:55.13 | [dRaCo] | yep. |
| 20:55.50 | [dRaCo] | I already had the meta gem in my inventory... guess I shouldn't have done that |
| 20:56.47 | Malgayne_ | I guess everyone has to share with somebody. =/ |
| 20:57.14 | [dRaCo] | we had 3 shamans, 2 rogues and 1 paladin in our raid. |
| 20:57.16 | [dRaCo] | for karazhan. |
| 20:58.00 | Sky2042 | lol, ouch |
| 20:58.01 | rayford | Hahaha. How'd that go? |
| 20:58.16 | [dRaCo] | kara is pretty much farm for us |
| 20:58.43 | [dRaCo] | as long as we got 2 tanks and 3 healer, we can clear it with pretty much every combination of classes |
| 20:59.03 | jmccaffrey | Malgayne_: Why sigh? :( |
| 20:59.15 | Malgayne_ | Because we DONT' have Kara on farm |
| 20:59.31 | *** mode/#wowhead [+o Malgayne] by ChanServ |
| 20:59.40 | rayford | I think that Kara is farming US. |
| 21:00.04 | Malgayne | lol |
| 21:00.08 | [dRaCo] | hrhr |
| 21:01.12 | rayford | We've got a good team. We can just never manage to be ON at the same time. |
| 21:01.26 | [dRaCo] | no discipline? |
| 21:01.33 | [dRaCo] | got the same problem here |
| 21:01.55 | Malgayne | Not even discipline |
| 21:02.02 | Malgayne | So much as too much real world interference |
| 21:02.08 | Malgayne | And no viable substitutes |
| 21:02.10 | [dRaCo] | we had our raid complete at 1840, wanted to start at 1900, 2 ppl were afk till 1920 |
| 21:02.20 | Malgayne | If our main healer can't come, we don't have a replacement |
| 21:03.30 | rayford | If we had a half dozen more people to function as replacements, we'd be golden. But we don't. |
| 21:03.42 | Malgayne | More than before though |
| 21:03.52 | Malgayne | Dethmor, Heretik, Bicasso, Sinxeno |
| 21:04.03 | Malgayne | Soon Outlawfoxx |
| 21:04.07 | Malgayne | Slatstress |
| 21:04.41 | Malgayne | Plus Xandir and Alyndia are 69 now |
| 21:04.48 | Malgayne | So we're almost there |
| 21:05.12 | rayford | We do we have for tanks? And healers? We've got Xan. Thats it. |
| 21:05.26 | rayford | Outlaw, but he's got a bit to go. |
| 21:05.53 | Malgayne | No new tanks or healres |
| 21:05.56 | Malgayne | Except Perchote |
| 21:06.05 | Malgayne | Fortunately our tanks and healers are the most reliable ones |
| 21:06.11 | Malgayne | Speakign of which |
| 21:06.30 | Malgayne | BTW |
| 21:06.31 | Malgayne | Sindell |
| 21:06.32 | [dRaCo] | guess you cant start a raid w/o a MT with no life ;) |
| 21:06.43 | Malgayne | Holy pally, Whispering's alt |
| 21:06.49 | Malgayne | Is in a guild that doesn't raid, like Slaytanic |
| 21:06.59 | rayford | Orly? |
| 21:07.05 | Malgayne | He's raiding Gruul's on his rogue on saturdays, but sundays he can raid kara with us on his healing pally |
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| 21:07.59 | rayford | Ah. Revenge of Hera. Okies then. |
| 21:08.05 | Malgayne | Eh what? |
| 21:08.39 | rayford | Revenge of Hera. Formerly Freedom, I think it was. |
| 21:08.48 | Malgayne | Ah yes |
| 21:08.56 | Malgayne | It was Whispering, he raided ZG with us back in the day |
| 21:09.00 | rayford | Their GM is uber absent (like, logs on once a month), so the officers split off and formed RoH. |
| 21:09.14 | rayford | Jah. He's buddies with an old friend. Notso. |
| 21:10.05 | jmccaffrey | Malgayne: Sorry I was afk for a second, if you're pvp horde you can come have kara on farm if you want ;) |
| 21:10.20 | Malgayne | Nope, pve. :( |
| 21:10.20 | rayford | Oh man. Poor Notso. He's in Australian Defence Force. : / |
| 21:10.31 | Malgayne | Besides, I'm trying to get people over HERE |
| 21:10.44 | [dRaCo] | Australian Defence Force? Those guys honestly have an army? :> |
| 21:10.48 | jmccaffrey | My guild just rerolled from PvE alliance moonrunner to PvP horde dragonmaw |
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| 21:11.40 | rayford | [dRaCo] Heh, you shoulda heard their first recruiting message. "Australian Defence Force is recruiting new members! Aussie only, please! Everyone welcome!" |
| 21:11.47 | Malgayne | lol |
| 21:11.57 | jmccaffrey | [dRaCo]: I've found tank rotations to be much more reliable than the "MT" thing |
| 21:12.09 | jmccaffrey | Relying on one person to be on all the time is bad lol |
| 21:12.20 | [dRaCo] | yeah, it is. |
| 21:12.40 | rayford | Yeah. If we have one of our tanks, and our Feral Druid on, then we'll be set. Won't be quite as easy, but not too bad. |
| 21:12.45 | [dRaCo] | ray: lol. "screenie or it didnt happen!" :þ |
| 21:13.52 | [dRaCo] | jmccaffrey: but if you wanna progress fast, splitting the equipment isnt a good idea neither. |
| 21:14.04 | Malgayne | That's why having a feral druid helps |
| 21:14.17 | Malgayne | Partially because he can do better dps on fights that only need one tank than a prot warrior could |
| 21:14.30 | jmccaffrey | [dRaCo]: I don't know about that, so much good gear drops constantly, plus with heroics and crafted and pvp |
| 21:14.33 | Malgayne | And partially because between a feral druid and a prot warrior there's almost no gear overlap |
| 21:14.38 | jmccaffrey | I don't see gear being in shortage like it once was |
| 21:14.49 | jmccaffrey | Yes in MC you had to worry about that, these days I'm not seeing it |
| 21:14.54 | [dRaCo] | our 2nd tank is a feral. gotta love her. best feral I've seen so far. |
| 21:15.28 | jmccaffrey | Right good points, now tanking is not constricted to one class, gear overlap can become a moot point |
| 21:15.34 | [dRaCo] | great tps, insane dps. |
| 21:15.44 | Malgayne | It'd be a bigger issue with a prot pally tank |
| 21:16.04 | TecnoBrat | how so? |
| 21:16.13 | Malgayne | More overlap. Both wear plate. |
| 21:16.27 | TecnoBrat | yes, but there is definately different stats |
| 21:16.34 | Malgayne | True true |
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| 21:16.58 | TecnoBrat | paladins want as much block as possible, stam, and spell damage. warriors want a balance of dodge, parry, block, and no spell damage |
| 21:17.31 | Malgayne | True, though if I see somethign with +def, stam, and dodge rating I ain't gonna say no |
| 21:17.37 | [dRaCo] | they want stamina! |
| 21:17.42 | [dRaCo] | everybody loves stamina! |
| 21:17.51 | TecnoBrat | true |
| 21:18.10 | TecnoBrat | but I think from a gearing a guild perspective, its easy to see who the item would benifit more |
| 21:18.59 | TecnoBrat | our guild has always had a policy of DKP is not > all |
| 21:19.07 | TecnoBrat | DKP is priority, with officer override |
| 21:19.32 | [dRaCo] | since TBC we raid without DKP |
| 21:19.42 | [dRaCo] | pretty cool most of the time |
| 21:19.45 | skizm | lawl we did the same thing |
| 21:19.52 | TecnoBrat | as being the officer who is in charge of loot.. dkp .. etc .. I've told more than a few people "use your brain, you are a paladin, let the priests have the ring with 30 spirit on it" |
| 21:19.54 | Corgan | yeah we don't use DKP |
| 21:19.58 | Sky2042 | pretty easy to raid without dkp |
| 21:19.59 | skizm | dkp is the worst |
| 21:20.18 | Malgayne | Yeah, we dont' have enough people to worry |
| 21:20.20 | [dRaCo] | we just have the loot master bash all the greedy ppl :> |
| 21:20.25 | TecnoBrat | we use it strictly as a priority, who is next up .. thing. |
| 21:20.37 | TecnoBrat | we have a REALLY small guild, considering |
| 21:20.38 | skizm | yeah that's pretty much what it's for ;p |
| 21:20.47 | TecnoBrat | 70 accounts, and lots of inactive people who quit when TBC came out |
| 21:20.55 | Corgan | we have... |
| 21:21.02 | Corgan | 77 accounts...110+ chars |
| 21:21.04 | Corgan | lawl |
| 21:21.09 | Malgayne | 51 accounts here, 103 chars |
| 21:21.24 | Corgan | I have like, 6 or 7 alts in the guild |
| 21:21.25 | Corgan | :\ |
| 21:21.34 | rayford | Only 51? Dang. I thought we had near 70. |
| 21:21.50 | Sky2042 | lrn2/guildinfo |
| 21:21.53 | Sky2042 | or something like that |
| 21:21.56 | jmccaffrey | DKP is pretty bad because it overlooks so many things |
| 21:22.02 | rayford | Its /ginfo Nub. : P |
| 21:22.12 | Sky2042 | bet you can use the other though, nublet ;) |
| 21:22.27 | rayford | Least I know what it is. |
| 21:23.01 | TecnoBrat | We have 37 active raiders |
| 21:23.09 | darkfate | i played for like 2and½ year with dkp |
| 21:23.32 | rayford | What I wouldn't give for 2/3 of that, Techno. |
| 21:23.33 | darkfate | work oki not so mutch leeching of newjoiners :> |
| 21:23.44 | Corgan | hmm |
| 21:23.49 | Corgan | what's a good frost spec |
| 21:23.58 | Corgan | at 60 |
| 21:23.59 | darkfate | frost sux :> |
| 21:24.00 | Corgan | for leveling |
| 21:24.04 | jmccaffrey | water elemental cold snap! |
| 21:24.14 | darkfate | for levling go fire |
| 21:24.22 | Corgan | bah |
| 21:24.26 | jmccaffrey | Yea really, frost is bad at that unless you want to AoE grind |
| 21:24.32 | Sky2042 | from 60? can go any to level |
| 21:24.35 | jmccaffrey | Which is only good if you like to die alot |
| 21:24.37 | Sky2042 | fire is fast |
| 21:24.39 | Sky2042 | est |
| 21:24.57 | Corgan | don't you need decent gear for fire |
| 21:24.58 | Sky2042 | frost won't get you ganked as badly though :P |
| 21:25.03 | darkfate | frost is good in instance's and pvp if you know how to use it right ;> |
| 21:25.05 | rayford | Corgan: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=o |
| 21:25.06 | Sky2042 | nah |
| 21:25.09 | Corgan | I have horrible gear on my mage |
| 21:25.21 | rayford | Err...Sorry. Lemme export that. = O |
| 21:25.24 | [dRaCo] | frost is a great solo spec... almost immortal |
| 21:25.27 | Sky2042 | anyway, good frost spec from 60.... |
| 21:25.29 | rayford | Corgan: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=kigEfoZEgGhbs |
| 21:26.02 | jmccaffrey | I gotta ask, is that "kigEfoZEgGhbs" base64_encode(serialize($the_talent_array)) ? |
| 21:26.45 | Sky2042 | ewfirespec |
| 21:26.54 | Sky2042 | ewarcanespectoo |
| 21:26.59 | Corgan | eh |
| 21:27.18 | rayford | >.> |
| 21:27.26 | Sky2042 | corgan, i'd have a look at http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=Rf0VZZVAGhofxoVot |
| 21:27.34 | [dRaCo] | Corgan: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=RZZVAGcofxoqqt |
| 21:27.37 | rayford | Yeah, igrone my build. I'm just screwin with ya. :D |
| 21:27.41 | Sky2042 | except that requires 64 points |
| 21:27.43 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 21:27.54 | [dRaCo] | basically: click anything in the frost tree that looks cool. |
| 21:27.59 | Corgan | lol |
| 21:28.06 | [dRaCo] | (haha, noticed the pun?) :þ |
| 21:28.16 | Sky2042 | oh well corgan, go for that |
| 21:28.20 | Sky2042 | not sure what to dump :X |
| 21:28.26 | Sky2042 | then fill in the last 6 as wanted |
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| 21:29.43 | Corgan | kay |
| 21:30.31 | Sky2042 | ah yes |
| 21:30.35 | Sky2042 | piercing ice for 3 more |
| 21:30.50 | Sky2042 | and prolly imp CoC |
| 21:31.07 | Corgan | ugh |
| 21:31.14 | Corgan | this'll be my third char to level |
| 21:31.15 | Corgan | :\ |
| 21:31.51 | Sky2042 | from 60? |
| 21:32.02 | Corgan | yep |
| 21:32.07 | Sky2042 | sweet |
| 21:32.10 | Corgan | I'm like |
| 21:32.11 | Corgan | ADD |
| 21:32.15 | Corgan | so I have a ton of alts |
| 21:32.40 | Sky2042 | at least your alts are 60 |
| 21:32.44 | Corgan | I have a 70 lock, 70 moonkin, 60 pally, 60 warrior, 60 mage, 57 priest, and a 46 shaman |
| 21:32.51 | Sky2042 | a lot of ppl with altitis never make it to 60 XD |
| 21:33.06 | Corgan | I have like, everything cept for rogue and hunter |
| 21:33.32 | jmccaffrey | both good classes |
| 21:33.43 | Corgan | yeah |
| 21:34.03 | jmccaffrey | beast hunters are pretty OP |
| 21:34.23 | jmccaffrey | With pets out, their damage wrecks |
| 21:34.38 | darkfate | 70 mage warrior 60 priest rouge 57 hunter 43 druid and tons of twinks :/ |
| 21:34.50 | Corgan | I think my max hunter is...31 |
| 21:35.08 | darkfate | but ihave not played wow for 6monthes now :/ |
| 21:35.10 | Corgan | I had a 29 twink hunter before they nerfed RAP |
| 21:35.15 | Corgan | from agility |
| 21:35.20 | Corgan | so like, pretbc |
| 21:38.10 | Corgan | gasp |
| 21:38.13 | Corgan | I didn't even get hit |
| 21:38.19 | Corgan | yay frost |
| 21:39.14 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 21:39.20 | Sky2042 | been fire for a while, eh? |
| 21:40.31 | [dRaCo] | frostbolt, frost nova, spam ice lance. |
| 21:40.49 | Corgan | I havn't specced frost since like, level 20 |
| 21:41.48 | Corgan | I may have just fallen in love :o |
| 21:42.50 | Corgan | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=965646797&sid=1 |
| 21:42.51 | Corgan | wut |
| 21:43.17 | Sky2042 | oh, the mage forums. the usual |
| 21:43.23 | Corgan | :p |
| 21:43.29 | Sky2042 | been that way for 2 or 3 years now |
| 21:43.31 | Sky2042 | :P |
| 21:45.08 | [dRaCo] | oh noes, mages have to wear cloth :/ |
| 21:45.19 | [dRaCo] | wtb plate mages with fear. |
| 21:45.29 | [dRaCo] | wait... called death knights. |
| 21:45.32 | Corgan | lol |
| 21:45.51 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 21:45.56 | Sky2042 | nah, dks wont have fear |
| 21:46.06 | rayford | If only there was some sort of spell that Mages could cast that would prevent their foe from taking any action against the Mage. The spell could transform the target into an animal, just for good measure.... |
| 21:46.08 | Sky2042 | well, ok, they might have skillcoil, but other than that. |
| 21:46.12 | jmccaffrey | Not enough runes |
| 21:46.29 | [dRaCo] | ray: no, that'd be imba. |
| 21:47.08 | jmccaffrey | I am going to break all your sheep with "Army of the Dead" |
| 21:47.59 | hiawani | Corgan: that OP is hilarious |
| 21:49.06 | Corgan | made me cry :( |
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| 21:49.46 | *** mode/#wowhead [+v Kirkburn] by ChanServ |
| 21:49.55 | TecnoBrat | "Guys, I completely agree! Mages should be allowed to use heavier armor; mail, AT LEAST. And weaponry? He's right! We suck at hand to hand! We should be allowed to use chainsaws. It's the only way to make this class playable." |
| 21:49.57 | Kirkburn | Poke of the Skosiris |
| 21:49.57 | TecnoBrat | hahahaahahahaha |
| 21:49.59 | TecnoBrat | okay |
| 21:50.07 | TecnoBrat | I just made the whole office look at me |
| 21:50.08 | Corgan | chainsaws |
| 21:50.11 | Corgan | hells yeah |
| 21:50.35 | [dRaCo] | dw chainsaws! |
| 21:51.39 | Corgan | so anyways |
| 21:51.42 | Corgan | frost is OP |
| 21:51.48 | hiawani | I agree |
| 21:51.48 | [dRaCo] | nope |
| 21:51.56 | hiawani | chainsaws are necessary for mage balancing |
| 21:52.00 | [dRaCo] | in pvp, maybe |
| 21:52.12 | [dRaCo] | but fire is the better dps spec |
| 21:52.14 | Corgan | I dont' have the gear for fire |
| 21:52.32 | hiawani | we'll need melee abilities with them though |
| 21:52.47 | [dRaCo] | mortal chainsaw strike! |
| 21:52.47 | Corgan | flaming chainsaw |
| 21:52.53 | hiawani | like an aoe blast-wave of rotating chainsaws |
| 21:52.55 | Kirkburn | Y'know, I love the underdev page - http://www.wowhead.com/?underdev |
| 21:53.00 | hiawani | Call it Clear-cutting |
| 21:53.02 | Corgan | sets fire to the chainsaw, increasing damage done by molten armor by 500% |
| 21:53.06 | Kirkburn | Mystery feature #1 and # :O |
| 21:53.08 | Corgan | DO IT |
| 21:53.12 | Kirkburn | 8 |
| 21:53.15 | Kirkburn | argh |
| 21:53.30 | Malgayne | Hehe |
| 21:53.39 | Malgayne | We actually changed that because people were ripping off our ideas |
| 21:53.40 | TecnoBrat | I LURVS MISTERYES |
| 21:53.42 | Kirkburn | My first experience of Linux. It's not going well. |
| 21:53.48 | Skosiris | lol |
| 21:53.57 | Kirkburn | Oh, he is here |
| 21:54.11 | TecnoBrat | who is where? |
| 21:54.28 | Kirkburn | Funk is always good |
| 21:55.08 | Kirkburn | I was just saying that for some reason tooltips show up in a serif font on this PC |
| 21:55.21 | Skosiris | hmm |
| 21:55.22 | Kirkburn | Times New Roman + Wowhead = wtf? |
| 21:55.33 | Skosiris | css says "Arial, sans-serif" |
| 21:55.41 | Skosiris | so Linux manages to turn this into Times huh? |
| 21:56.07 | Kirkburn | Specific example, see http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32203 |
| 21:56.15 | Kirkburn | All is Arial, except... |
| 21:56.28 | Kirkburn | The tooltip and the Stormy Empyrean Sapphire in the table |
| 21:56.33 | Skosiris | let me see a screenshot |
| 21:56.47 | Kirkburn | You think I know how to do that on this?! |
| 21:56.55 | Skosiris | lol |
| 21:57.06 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 21:57.12 | hiawani | Kirkburn: try export |
| 21:57.12 | Skosiris | was the print key removed from your linux keyboard? |
| 21:57.13 | TecnoBrat | ahhh thats because that one is just "Vedana" |
| 21:57.21 | TecnoBrat | Verdana* rather |
| 21:57.39 | TecnoBrat | the link in the created by tab for stormy empy ... whatever |
| 21:57.47 | [dRaCo] | well... I'm off, later |
| 21:57.50 | hiawani | err not export |
| 21:57.53 | Kirkburn | Verdana ain't on here, I guess |
| 21:58.00 | TecnoBrat | Same with the tooltip |
| 21:58.06 | Kirkburn | Verdana is British, fyi ^^ |
| 21:58.33 | hiawani | import, hurrr |
| 21:58.46 | hiawani | need imagemagick installed, though |
| 21:58.47 | Kirkburn | Quick, man, add sans-serif to the css! |
| 21:59.33 | TecnoBrat | Skosiris, global.css line 848 |
| 22:01.21 | TecnoBrat | and ... the other one is inline |
| 22:01.44 | TecnoBrat | <3 Firebug |
| 22:01.52 | Kirkburn | Inline? INLINE?!?! |
| 22:02.02 | Skosiris | try refreshing |
| 22:02.22 | Kirkburn | Yay, tooltip fixed |
| 22:02.34 | Kirkburn | Just table left |
| 22:04.57 | Chav | is there an API for the Wowhead client? |
| 22:05.04 | Chav | or source code would be even better :D |
| 22:05.12 | TecnoBrat | hmmm the table might be a JS thing |
| 22:05.58 | Malgayne | Chav, pms? |
| 22:06.13 | Malgayne | er |
| 22:06.14 | Chav | well i tried that way |
| 22:06.14 | Malgayne | PMs |
| 22:06.15 | Chav | :D |
| 22:06.20 | Chav | sure |
| 22:06.23 | Chav | if you don't mind |
| 22:06.43 | Skosiris | TecnoBrat, what line to fix the font in the table? |
| 22:06.47 | Malgayne | No, I mean check your PMs. :P |
| 22:07.07 | Skosiris | lol http://www.wowhead.com/?item=2460 |
| 22:07.48 | TecnoBrat | Skosiris, not sure |
| 22:08.31 | rayford | Oooh. I've got a question. Maybe a coding nerd can help me out. : P |
| 22:09.28 | jmccaffrey | What kinda question |
| 22:09.49 | TecnoBrat | Skosiris, looks like its http://www.wowhead.com/common/locale_enus.js?9 |
| 22:09.57 | TecnoBrat | a.style.fontFamily="Verdana"; |
| 22:10.03 | TecnoBrat | looks like thats done a few times in there |
| 22:10.31 | TecnoBrat | I might be wrong however |
| 22:10.44 | rayford | Well, I was trolling a guild site, and found a rather nifty feature. They've got a link that, when you click it, will connect you to Vent automatically. I was wondering if anyone knew how exactly they did it. |
| 22:10.46 | TecnoBrat | digging in someone else's JS is always fun :P |
| 22:11.07 | jmccaffrey | TecnoBrat: No, not really, digging into JS is rarely fun lol |
| 22:11.08 | TecnoBrat | rayford, rightclick the link, copy the url location |
| 22:11.10 | TecnoBrat | paste it here |
| 22:11.27 | jmccaffrey | Did vent really add a uri? |
| 22:11.28 | rayford | ventrilo://discover.pure-voice.net:3234/servername=Infliction&serverpassword=250arcanite |
| 22:11.29 | jmccaffrey | Thats pretty cool |
| 22:11.31 | TecnoBrat | I'm pretty sure its just a ventrillo:3232 |
| 22:11.32 | jmccaffrey | Yea, thats hot |
| 22:11.33 | TecnoBrat | yea.... |
| 22:11.44 | TecnoBrat | you can get the same thing for irc:// whatver |
| 22:12.28 | rayford | How hard would it be to duplicate this, and replace our vent info? |
| 22:13.09 | Skosiris | TecnoBrat: aight, will fix the js |
| 22:13.24 | TecnoBrat | Skosiris :) |
| 22:13.49 | jmccaffrey | rayford ventrillo://<YOUR VENT>:<PORT>/servername=ray's%20vent |
| 22:13.52 | TecnoBrat | so when is my weighted filters comming |
| 22:13.53 | TecnoBrat | dammit! |
| 22:14.04 | TecnoBrat | :P |
| 22:14.09 | TecnoBrat | Sky2042, help me out here! |
| 22:14.25 | Sky2042 | truth skosiris |
| 22:14.40 | Sky2042 | that, and xml, and your secret plan #1 :P |
| 22:14.51 | TecnoBrat | and #2! |
| 22:15.09 | Sky2042 | well, i know what one of the secretssss is |
| 22:15.19 | TecnoBrat | :P |
| 22:15.41 | Skosiris | maybe.. :D |
| 22:15.45 | TecnoBrat | well, I know what 2 secrets are |
| 22:15.49 | TecnoBrat | maybe they aren't those ones |
| 22:15.57 | Malgayne | Chav, are you there? |
| 22:16.01 | TecnoBrat | I might know secret 3 and 4! |
| 22:16.13 | Sky2042 | why coreiel hot? |
| 22:16.18 | Sky2042 | >.> |
| 22:16.23 | TecnoBrat | she is definately hot |
| 22:16.26 | Sky2042 | why is* |
| 22:16.50 | Malgayne | Can't send PMs? |
| 22:16.55 | TecnoBrat | I haven't seen pics of Neth I dont think |
| 22:17.01 | TecnoBrat | he has to register Malgayne |
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| 22:17.28 | *** mode/#wowhead [+v Kirkburn] by ChanServ |
| 22:25.32 | Sky2042 | tecnobrat |
| 22:25.34 | Sky2042 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Nethaera |
| 22:25.36 | Sky2042 | -_- |
| 22:28.49 | TecnoBrat | ahhh right I have seen that |
| 22:28.59 | TecnoBrat | shes not horrible looking, not as hot as coreiel th |
| 22:29.01 | TecnoBrat | tho* |
| 22:29.32 | Kirkburn | *almost* met her at Blizzcon |
| 22:29.46 | Kirkburn | Almost being the operative word |
| 22:30.27 | Kirkburn | She forgot about putting my pass into the database |
| 22:30.30 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 22:31.22 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 22:31.32 | Corgan | It saddens me |
| 22:31.38 | Corgan | that I don't have to look up quest locations anymore |
| 22:31.43 | Corgan | I know where everything is... |
| 22:31.46 | Corgan | the third time around |
| 22:31.46 | Corgan | sigh |
| 22:32.10 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 22:39.22 | TecnoBrat | so, you know the whole SS or it didnt happen thing? |
| 22:39.48 | TecnoBrat | well, my sister sat in on a chat between my ex, and some random people, in the room my ex met her new "fiance" |
| 22:39.58 | TecnoBrat | and she saw her say a bunch of stuff |
| 22:40.02 | TecnoBrat | and took screenshots |
| 22:40.12 | TecnoBrat | so they are being entered into court records, right now |
| 22:41.12 | TecnoBrat | SS or it didnt happen .. at its finest :P |
| 22:42.27 | rayford | Bwahaha! Nice! |
| 22:42.30 | jmccaffrey | SS or it didn't happen... |
| 22:43.44 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 22:48.35 | skizm | that stuff isn't admissible in court but w/e |
| 22:48.55 | TecnoBrat | skizm, this is family court |
| 22:48.58 | TecnoBrat | its different |
| 22:48.58 | skizm | it'd be so incredibly easy to make that stuff up |
| 22:49.02 | skizm | heh ok |
| 22:49.14 | TecnoBrat | it just proves that she's engaged to the guy, she could still deny it I guess |
| 22:49.18 | TecnoBrat | but I dont see why she would |
| 22:49.34 | TecnoBrat | she claimed in the channel she was engaged, and planned to be in texas with my son by christmas |
| 22:49.39 | TecnoBrat | (I live in BC, Canada) |
| 22:49.45 | TecnoBrat | yea, anyways, still funny :P |
| 22:50.04 | jmccaffrey | Texas! |
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| 22:54.55 | facelessleader | hi there |
| 22:56.09 | Corgan | 26k xp to 61 :o |
| 22:59.00 | rayford | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:59.24 | rayford | My Warrior is gettin close to 58. He's 77% of the way there. Grinding mobs in Outland FTW! :D |
| 23:03.39 | rayford | Mal, I've got a question for you. |
| 23:04.20 | Malgayne | Make it real fast |
| 23:05.15 | rayford | I want to link a site, but its sorta inappropriate for young'uns. No gross details. But PG-13. Mind if I show it to you first, and you can make the call? |
| 23:05.25 | Malgayne | here in chat? |
| 23:06.28 | rayford | I'd PM ya the site. |
| 23:09.21 | rayford | Huzzah. Okies. This story is ok. Others are NSFW. You've been warned. : P http://www.tuckermax.com/archives/entries/date/tucker_talks_in_his_sleep_disses_girl.phtml#624 |
| 23:09.40 | Malgayne | I drive home now |
| 23:09.42 | Malgayne | Back on later |
| 23:10.17 | rayford | Later Mal. |
| 23:17.49 | Corgan | wewt |
| 23:17.50 | Corgan | ding 61 |
| 23:18.02 | Corgan | 13 days 12 hours /played |
| 23:18.23 | Corgan | afk |
| 23:19.33 | TecnoBrat | 250 days played |
| 23:20.10 | rayford | I'm at like 75 days played, I think. |
| 23:30.13 | jmccaffrey | over 9000 |
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| 23:36.51 | Malgayne | Back. :) |
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