IRC log for #wowhead on 20070728

00:00.11Tarris-Dalaranheh
00:00.13rayfordHaha.  Yup.  Hi there Melvin.
00:00.23KeshicusActually nobody does.
00:00.28MalgayneIt's new.  I'm sure the novelty will wear off shortly.  :)
00:00.32KeshicusWere just bots, lots of bots.
00:00.46MelvinHaha.
00:00.46Adysinfobot, entertain the channel
00:00.47infobotACTION grabs 5 random objects and begins to weave them through the air in a display of superior juggling skill for the channel's entertainment whilst whistling Einzug der Gladiatoren by Julius Fu?ík
00:00.59Keshicus..wow
00:01.13KeshicusI remember I had a vending machine bot
00:01.18KeshicusWas pretty cool
00:01.21MelvinThanks infobot.
00:01.28Keshicusinfobot, give gold
00:01.31Keshicus...
00:01.32Keshicusdamn
00:01.59Malgayne~Melvin
00:02.00infobotmelvin is, like, pulling your underwear up
00:02.03rayfordIt was worth a shot.
00:02.16Malgayne~Keshicus
00:02.38Adysinfobot, malgayne?
00:02.39infobotfrom memory, malgayne is the Wowhead CM guy.
00:02.48AdysBah
00:02.54MalgayneNothing good.
00:02.58Malgayne~skosiris
00:02.58infobotrumour has it, skosiris is playing with his money.
00:03.05Malgayne~mystadio
00:03.08Keshicusinfobot, transform
00:03.12Adys~malgayne
00:03.13infobotYou don't wanna know.
00:03.16Adysthere we go
00:03.29MalgayneTransform and roll out!
00:04.12*** join/#wowhead Liontiger (n=Liontige@pD9ECBE4C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
00:08.55AdysHavent seen the channel this quiet since there were only 5 users in it ;)
00:09.09MalgayneIt's only been five minutes.  :P
00:09.14AdysYep
00:09.24Adys~transform
00:09.24infobotACTION begins moving as her body flips around to transform into something new, something powerful. TERMINAFOBOT !!!!
00:09.38Malgayne~terminafobot
00:09.39KeshicusIt's a girl?
00:09.43AdysYeah
00:09.50KeshicusAh, I see...
00:09.50rayfordHahaha.
00:09.58AdysNothing new to that!
00:10.00Adys~purl
00:10.01infobotpurl is, like, purl
00:10.06Adysthey changed it
00:10.08AdysGAH!
00:10.15Malgayne?
00:10.23Adys~purl
00:10.23infoboti guess purl is purl
00:10.27Adysnevermind
00:10.49Adysmakes me sad :(
00:11.27AdysMalgayne Im not a bot abuser, i bet its you who set that up
00:11.45MalgayneSet what up?
00:11.57rayfordI'd imagine that it was Mal.
00:12.05Inc`There's a bot on another IRC network I idle
00:12.15MalgayneWhat?  What did I do?
00:12.19Inc`It basically "learns" how to speak
00:12.22Inc`It's hilarious to watch it
00:12.58Adysinfobot > all other bots
00:13.01Adysill stand by that
00:13.21AdysSorry malgayne
00:13.23Adys~adys
00:13.23infobotrumour has it, adys is a bot abuser, or the scary one
00:13.29nerfrougeshahahaha
00:13.29KeshicusI still think my ancient vending machine bot rules
00:13.31Adyswasnt that you?
00:13.36nerfrougesthat golden fishsticks screenshot is hilarious
00:13.38Malgaynelol
00:13.42rayford~rayford
00:13.42infobotmethinks rayford is a Wowhead editor and guildmaster on Draenor. the roxzoration.
00:13.42MalgayneNo, that wasn't me
00:13.53nerfrougesMalgayne
00:13.57nerfrougesdon't ever remove it
00:14.15Adys~cyber
00:14.16infobotwell, cyber is a word you put in front of another to make the second word meaningless.
00:14.28KeshicusNice logic
00:14.39rayfordHeh.  Thats awesome.
00:14.40MalgayneI might have, if I had any idea how to use the damn thing.  :)
00:14.46rayford~baby
00:14.47infobotwell, baby is the other other white meat, or a way to create a new process from two parents
00:14.47MalgayneI told it who rayford was, but that's all
00:14.53rayfordXD
00:15.08KeshicusDoes it do ~warcraft or wow?
00:15.16Adysdunny try it!
00:15.19Malgayne~warcraft
00:15.20infobotrumour has it, warcraft is understood by looking at the two words that make it up-- warc and raft. Since warcs are extinct, warcrafts are not in great use anymore.
00:15.28Malgaynehaha
00:15.31Malgayne~wow
00:15.31infobot[wow] the best game EVAR!
00:15.34Keshicus~worldofwarcraft
00:15.39rayfordXD
00:15.48Inc`~pie
00:15.48infobotMmmmmm PIE!
00:15.49KeshicusWoah it PM'ed me
00:15.53Keshicuslol
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00:16.10Keshicus~nightelf
00:16.22Keshicusdarn, I was hoping it would diss nightelves
00:16.24Adysits not really a wow bot
00:16.31Keshicusok
00:16.32Adystheres only 4 wow related channels on freenode
00:16.37rayford~cheesecake
00:16.38infobotsomebody said cheesecake was statistically  the most popular dessert ordered in restaurants, or goozbach fuel
00:16.49Keshicus~pokemon
00:16.50infobotACTION is a Charizard, LOLZ!!!
00:16.54Keshicuslol!
00:16.57Adys..
00:16.58MalgayneThis one, wowwiki, norganna...what's the other?
00:17.00rayfordHahaha!
00:17.10Keshicuswowi-lounge is another
00:17.13rayford~pikachu
00:17.13infobot[pikachu] chimmy's new bot that keeps saying "heh"
00:17.28Adysnorganna?
00:17.34Adysdidnt know about this one
00:17.40Keshicus~chaos
00:17.41infobothmm... chaos is what happens when you nmap a huge ibm tape robot causing it to go completely berzerk and drop its tapes.
00:17.49Adysanyway, wowwiki, wowi-lounge, wowace, wowhead
00:17.50KeshicusNice
00:18.02rayford~thottbot
00:18.10Malgayne~wowhead
00:18.11infobothmm... wowhead is a WoW database located at http://www.wowhead.com
00:18.14MalgayneWe win!
00:18.14Keshicus~humans
00:18.15infobothumans are meatbags
00:18.21Keshicuslol
00:18.25rayfordHaha.
00:18.25Keshicus~zerg
00:18.26infobotGhaa raah saa SURGGG.
00:18.31rayfordXD
00:18.32Keshicus...
00:18.33rayford~dog
00:18.34infobotdog is probably GUAF! GUAF! :D~~
00:18.39Keshicus~protoss
00:18.39infobotEn'taro adun.
00:18.51Keshicus~ork
00:18.56Keshicuswhoops
00:18.57Keshicus~orc
00:18.58infobothmm... orc is bigger than a kobold but smaller than a hobgoblin
00:19.12rayford~Elf
00:19.12infobotelf is probably information on ELF can be found at ftp://tsx.mit.edu/pub/linux/packages/GCC/ELF.doc.tar.gz,text doc here: http://www.muppetlabs.com/~breadbox/software/ELF.txt.
00:19.21Malgayne~infobot
00:19.22infobotmalgayne, i love abuse, feed me!
00:19.22Keshicus~gf
00:19.22infobotgf is probably Girl Friend, or French Guiana.  Guardian Force
00:19.36rayford~hobbit
00:19.46Keshicus~Girl Friend
00:19.47infobotgirl friend is probably apt-cache search girl friend
00:19.50rayfordDang.  ) :
00:20.09Keshicus~pork
00:20.10infobotis gooooood
00:20.29rayford~miyari
00:20.38Keshicus~Inc`
00:20.47Keshicus~Keshicus
00:20.50rayfordinfobot, miyari is a n00b durid.
00:20.51infobotrayford: okay
00:20.56rayford~miyari
00:20.56infobotsomebody said miyari was a n00b durid.
00:21.03rayfordHehehehe.
00:21.29*** join/#wowhead j0n (n=j0n@ti121210a081-10899.bb.online.no)
00:21.48*** join/#wowhead FourZeroFour (n=JustinTi@h143.204.140.67.ip.alltel.net)
00:22.09MalgayneWelcome
00:22.22FourZeroFourhola
00:22.34Keshicusinfobot, Keshicus is a nice guy
00:22.34infobotokay, Keshicus
00:22.38Keshicus~keshicus
00:22.39infobot[keshicus] a nice guy
00:22.43Keshicuscool
00:23.17Keshicus~infobot
00:23.18infobotkeshicus, i love abuse, feed me!
00:23.52rayford~transform
00:23.53infobotACTION begins moving as her body flips around to transform into something new, something powerful. TERMINAFOBOT !!!!
00:24.06Keshicus~roll out
00:24.07infobotACTION stuffs out in a hamster ball and rolls it down a steep, snow-covered mountain
00:24.18KeshicusNice...
00:24.29Adysinfobot, you suck
00:24.30infobotand very well I might add
00:24.39KeshicusWell clearly it's a she...
00:24.52rayfordHahaha.
00:25.07Adys~miranda
00:25.07infobotYou have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can, and will, be used against you in a court of law; You have the right to consult with an attorney and/or to have one present when questioned by the police; and If you cannot afford an attorney, one will be appointed to represent you.
00:25.21Adysright i didnt set that up
00:25.32Keshicus..
00:25.38KeshicusThats weird for it to say
00:25.49Adys~miranda
00:25.50infobotThat's me.
00:26.12Keshicus~time
00:26.13infobotrumour has it, time is 1 dimensional, or everlasting, an illusion, or 2007.07.28  0:26:13 GMT
00:26.25Keshicus~life
00:26.26infobotit has been said that life is a board game
00:26.44Keshicusinfobot, life is a download everyone is still in que for
00:26.44infobot...but life is already something else...
00:27.42Keshicuso.O?
00:27.45KeshicusEh oh well
00:27.56MelvinLol
00:28.11KeshicusI'm not amused anymore
00:28.35Adysinfobot, amuse Keshicus
00:28.49Adysmeh.
00:28.56KeshicusWhats it ganna do? Give me a lapdance?
00:29.12Inc`He said amuse not please :P
00:29.15Adys~lapdance Keshicus
00:29.28Adys~lapdance
00:29.29infobotACTION gives adys a lapdance
00:29.36Adysnow give one to Keshicus
00:29.41rayfordAlright.  I'm off.  Mal, hope to see you at Kara tomorrow.  Lemme know if you can't come.
00:29.41Adyssilly bot
00:29.51AdysHave fun
00:30.06rayfordinfobot, entertain the room
00:30.06infobotACTION grabs 5 random objects and begins to weave them through the air in a display of superior juggling skill for the room's entertainment whilst whistling Einzug der Gladiatoren by Julius Fu?ík
00:30.06MalgayneI'll try.  See you later ray
00:30.37KeshicusInc`: Since its a she, likes to flip about, and proclaims it sucks very well, who knows what it will do next?
00:30.55MelvinShe does give lapdances for free.
00:31.02MelvinWithout asking questions.
00:31.28KeshicusWhy would someone question a lapdance?
00:31.41MelvinThe person giving the lapdance might.
00:32.17MelvinOr the person being asked rather.
00:32.55KeshicusI'd find it kinda creepy to ask a strange woman that I don't know a lapdance, creepier that she complies. Unless its a certain place then I won't think it's free
00:33.18Adys~porn
00:33.19infobotPorn remains one of the largest problems with Open Source Software. Often causing development delays, flooded links and, in extreme cases, disabling programmers ability to type.
00:33.37Melvin^Lol
00:33.41KeshicusNice
00:33.47Malgaynealrighty, I'mma go move some furniture
00:33.50Keshicus~ebay
00:33.51infobotrumour has it, ebay is a7r's new friend when it comes to upgrading a7r's network. ;>, or skype
00:34.01MalgayneI should catch up with y'all later in the weekend
00:34.21Adysinfobot, no, ebay is full of stuff you actually need but don't know it yet
00:34.22infobotokay, Adys
00:34.25MelvinYeah, Ill probably forget about this channel. :P
00:34.54KeshicusIt's ok
00:34.55MelvinI just saw the link and thought "Oooh an attempt to bring back irc? Count me in."
00:35.07KeshicusLOL! Thats what I thought too
00:35.18Miyari~miyari
00:35.19infoboti guess miyari is a n00b durid.
00:35.19MelvinWelcome to the '90s.
00:35.21Miyarii see wot u did there
00:35.33KeshicusI went to my old server from 4years ago and its dead
00:35.58MelvinWhich server?
00:36.06*** part/#wowhead vithos (i=vithos@ip70-178-211-138.ks.ks.cox.net)
00:36.07Keshicusarena.webchat
00:36.25MelvinI used to play CoD 1 back when it first came out. Needless to say I was always idling gamesurge.
00:36.48KeshicusNice
00:36.58*** join/#wowhead damemorder (n=me@h117.57.172.72.ip.alltel.net)
00:36.59KeshicusI went there too and noone I knew was there anymore
00:37.23MelvinYeah. Everyone moved on to CS: Source and CoD 2. Games I didnt care for.
00:38.08damemorderHmm, anybody know if there's a windows support channel on this network?
00:38.17KeshicusI think so
00:38.37KeshicusI remember glancing over one on the top populated channels in the list
00:38.41Adysmost of freenode are open source projects
00:38.47damemorderk, checking more
00:38.55Adysso you're more likely to find linux related channels than windows related ones =]
00:38.58MelvinYeah. You can find any open source project here.
00:39.12Adysdebian is full of weirdos
00:39.17Adys~seen jesus
00:39.24infobotjesus <n=zeeg@69.109.103.158> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowwiki, 70d 23h 9m 41s ago, saying: 'Praise me!'.
00:39.32Adysbah
00:39.33MelvinHaha Gentoo is always silent. No one says a word.
00:39.38nerfrouges~seen batman
00:39.39infobotbatman <n=mofisha@pool-70-22-22-216.balt.east.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 424d 20h 17m 55s ago, saying: 'im having trouble finding the images for floppy booting and net install'.
00:39.39Adys~seen god
00:39.40infobotgod <n=rawsonat@c-71-56-134-63.hsd1.or.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowwiki, 21d 4h 34m 58s ago, saying: 'Damnit, another dropped call. I really need to switch to HeavenServe.'.
00:39.40Keshicus. . .
00:39.40*** join/#wowhead norgan (n=roger@cpe-204-210-139-51.hvc.res.rr.com)
00:39.44damemorderI normally chill in #linux and #dsl, but my WinXP fileserver went retarded, plus I play WoW quite often, So I'll be chatting about that later.
00:39.53nerfrouges~seen candlejack
00:39.54infobotnerfrouges: i haven't seen 'candlejack'
00:40.03Keshicus~jesus
00:40.04infobotrumour has it, jesus is cool, or  apparently now EMACS (see emacs)
00:40.04nerfrougesbut you will in 5 seconds
00:40.06norganhello
00:40.19KeshicusHI, Norgan
00:40.19AdysDebian is always the place that pops up when using ~seen on a weird name
00:40.20MelvinNice name nerfrouges
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00:40.39norgani was wondering if anybody could teach me how to farm scholomance for lifestealing
00:40.47Melvinnerfrouges: You have to be either a warlock or a rogue.
00:40.49Adysbut i think someone in #wowwiki screwed that up :p
00:40.54KeshicusIt can be taught?
00:41.06KeshicusWhat mats do you need?
00:41.22Melvinnorgan: Lifestealing isnt worth getting unless you play on a new low populated server/
00:41.30Adysor for collection :)
00:41.36Adysused to farm it as frost mage at lvl 60
00:41.40MelvinI have it and have only sold the enchant like 10 times. And I had it pre-bc. >_<
00:41.44Adysnow at lvl 70 i can aoe mobs with one pot
00:42.07KeshicusBlah, frost mage mob farming
00:42.16Adyswas actually fun :)
00:42.26AdysI actually managed to solo scholo entirely the other day
00:42.32norgani do play on low populate server
00:42.38Adysdidnt think i'd get past the butcher
00:42.40norganand i like to collect
00:42.45MelvinWhat class are you?
00:42.49norgan68 hunter
00:43.00Adysget to 70 before farming it :) will make it easier
00:43.06MelvinOmg go in and do what you normally do. Lol.
00:43.12norgani never did scholo before lol
00:43.15norgantheres so many mobs
00:43.21norganwat do i normally do
00:43.31KeshicusI want to say something stereotypical
00:43.32Keshicusbut nah
00:43.33norgansomeone on wowhead says any 65+ ca do it in 10 min
00:43.40MelvinIt drops off trash, get a tanking pet and pull as few at a time as possible. If you mess up, feign.
00:43.49norganit drops of spectral researcher!!!
00:43.58Adysthey are in the second rooùm
00:44.01Adysroom/
00:44.02Adyscant miss em
00:44.10norganhow can i get to this second room
00:44.15norganlike i said i never did scholo before
00:44.18MelvinMin dropped off of the first mob I pulled >_<
00:44.20Adysby getting past the first one
00:44.21MelvinMine^
00:44.23norgani am at a room right now chamber of summoning
00:44.29Adystheres literally 4 mobs in the first one :P
00:44.32norganlookin through a gate
00:44.38norganand there are stairs
00:44.48MelvinBack at level like 57 and I rolled vs 3 other enchanters and won it.
00:44.50KeshicusAnd up ahead is a fork in the road
00:44.51Adysthats the room you need
00:45.17Adyswait, chamber of summoning thats far in no?
00:45.58norgani dont know
00:46.03norgani fd a few times thru the rooms
00:46.04MelvinWhat server are you on? Out of curiosity?
00:46.13MelvinMy grammar sucks.
00:46.16norganravencrest
00:48.04MelvinSo, who plays horde?
00:48.58KeshicusI
00:49.23norgani am a fellow hordie looking for lifestealing farming advice
00:50.20MelvinAll I can say is what I have said.
00:50.38MelvinIt drops off trash, get a tanking pet and pull as few at a time as possible. If you mess up, feign.
00:51.14norganit only drops off the researchers
00:51.21norgani need help getting to them
00:51.26norganwithout killin everyhing
00:51.29MelvinTheyre in the second room.
00:51.37norganwhich is this second room
00:51.54MelvinWalk in, kill 4 mobs. Go through the gate.
00:52.10KeshicusNorgan: In the beginning of the dungeon...
00:52.27norganthe reliquary?
00:52.41norgani was told to jump down off the bridge
00:52.45norganinstead of kiling the four guys
00:52.47norganfrom wowhead
00:53.45MelvinThat is wrong.
00:53.53MelvinKill them. Its much faster.
00:54.02norganreally
00:54.11MelvinYeah.
00:54.12norgansee the problem is here i have no idea how i can get out now
00:54.16norganonce i have jumped off that bridge
00:54.46MelvinYoull have to hearth or get naked and die unless you want to fight your way out.
00:55.39norganoh ok i'll go naked i guess
00:55.44norganhow many of these guys can i expect/run?
00:58.52Miyariooo i remember that enchant
00:58.55Miyarii sold it for 1200g back in the day
00:59.11Miyariand bought a ton of runecloth and an epic wolf and pretended i never found it
00:59.45kinkeriixlifestealing enchant as a mage: solo as frost with levels as low as 63
00:59.56norganfor hunter plz
01:00.13kinkeriixsend in pet, pewpew the mob, trap the spares
01:00.21norganwhat does pewpew mean
01:00.24kinkeriixkill
01:00.29norganoh i like that word
01:00.43norganhow do i know which mobs are squares
01:00.53kinkeriixanything you arent currently killing
01:00.57kinkeriixtrap it so it isnt beating on you
01:01.00norgani can only trap one thing
01:01.22kinkeriixcan you solo a mob down without a pet? if so, have the pet tank one, trap the other, then kill the final one yourself
01:01.44norganor should i have pet tank all the non trapped mob
01:01.51norganhe resists better than i do
01:01.57kinkeriixwhats your level?
01:02.00norgan68
01:02.05kinkeriixshould be easy
01:02.07Keshicusbad luck then
01:02.10norganpretty hard right now
01:02.19norgani killed 4 researchers but died tryin to get the 5th
01:02.27kinkeriixforget the last one in the back of the room
01:02.28norgannow im gonna try to go thru the gate and kill the first 4 guards
01:02.31kinkeriixtoo many pats and mobs back there
01:02.35kinkeriixkill the first 4 then reset
01:02.44norganyou know which one i'm talkin about?
01:02.53norganthe one across from the guy under the staircase
01:03.00kinkeriixim assuming its the one in the far back where there is a pat that goes through 3 packs or so
01:03.12kinkeriixthe one under the staircase is easy, hes alone
01:03.14norganyes
01:03.18kinkeriixyou should kill the pats that go in there first
01:03.21norganits the one opposite him that i died on
01:03.31kinkeriixthe one in the middle of the room?
01:03.40norganno the one against the wall
01:03.48KeshicusYou know what I find as a really popular enchant? Demonslaying, I got my shaman DW axes with demonslaying and farming demons sells
01:04.01KeshicusPlus the marks and armaments I collect...
01:04.03norgani tried to pull him as he went between two groups but i aggrod them both
01:04.03kinkeriixjust ignore the one you find hard to kill, it isnt worth the wasted time if you are wiping
01:04.17kinkeriixkill all the ones you can get to then reset
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01:04.28Keshicushehe
01:04.50kinkeriixalthough, if you have a friend with you, you could clear the whole room easy
01:06.10norganall my friends would ninja my formula
01:06.24KeshicusI don't think those would be friends...
01:06.32norganthen i have no friends :(
01:06.33kinkeriixyou could agree to split the money
01:06.39KeshicusThat sucks
01:06.42kinkeriixits worth it if you are farming twice as fast
01:06.44norgani am farming for use
01:06.46norgannot for sale
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01:06.58norganoh damn goin thru that door is much better!!!
01:07.05norganinstead of jumping down
01:07.08KeshicusBingo
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01:16.25Viper007Bondwoot, wowhead chan :O
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01:17.31norgana gm once told me that they have to go to scholomance not college in order to become a gm
01:20.13KeshicusKinda obvious to see the joke in that
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01:25.42norgani didnt uderstand at first
01:25.46norganbut now i know
01:25.49norganit's a school for necromancer
01:27.28KalrothOh, I thought it meant that they had to be stuck in Scholomance so they could assist me on issues in instances that they've obviously never been to. :)
01:28.10norganya nobody ever said gms were comedians
01:28.20SkosirisWelcome Viper :D
01:28.35norgani would just like to say
01:28.39norganthat wowhead is the greatest invention ever
01:28.42norganthank you
01:29.13nicklozonTrue - better than any other wannabe wow data sites out there
01:29.28nerfrougesi hate wowhead just to be different
01:29.36TecnoBratnow if only Skosiris would finish the filter weightings.......
01:29.37TecnoBrat:PP
01:29.42w1dg3twhat really switched me over from thottbott was the user interface of wowhead... everything is really nicely laid out with CSS
01:29.48KalrothNo need to suck up to Skosiris, wowhead, thottbot and allakhazam are all owned by the same company now :p
01:29.53w1dg3tthottbott was ugly as hell
01:29.53norganyes the interface is really amazing
01:29.55nerfrougesmore like it isn't RETINA BURNING WHITE
01:29.59norganvery functional and beautiful
01:30.07norgani couldnt ask for more
01:30.15nerfrougesjust having a dark colour scheme alone makes it better
01:30.31TecnoBratnah, the dark makes it hard for me to use it at work :P
01:30.32nerfrougesthottbot burns my eyes every time i visit
01:30.33nicklozoni thought thottbott was a domain filler website, you know the ones you see when you type in a url wrong
01:31.18nicklozoni make all of my websites dark
01:31.19TecnoBratwowhead is good because of the item filters, clean layout, fast loading, CLEAN DATA ... thats a big one
01:31.28TecnoBratit doesnt have the shit the other DB sites have in them
01:31.30kinkeriixclean data, thats right
01:31.38TecnoBratitems that don't actually exist, ect
01:31.40norganthe comment rating system is amazing
01:31.43norganthottbot is rediculous
01:31.49kinkeriixi would go on thottbot and it would show locations all over the map to the point where you had no idea where to go
01:31.57TecnoBratthottbot tried to steal the comment rating system
01:31.59TecnoBratand failed
01:32.19w1dg3ti remember thottbot used to keep information from people that would connect to private servers so random shit would be all over the place
01:32.37TecnoBratthe #1 thing that made me use wowhead .. is I found a dude spamming comments with a bunch of gold spamming urls
01:32.39TecnoBratand I emailed
01:32.48TecnoBratand Skosiris deleted them within about 20 mins
01:33.11w1dg3teven if you wouldn't have emailed, what is it.. 5 negatives and it gets deleted automatically?
01:33.31kinkeriixit gets hidden till you click on it... i think they manually check out the negetive comments
01:33.51TecnoBratI'm pretty sure they run a script that cleans them out
01:33.56TecnoBratevery x days or so
01:34.04TecnoBratbut yea, its hidden for awhile
01:34.16w1dg3tskosiris does all the mysql stuff doesnt he?
01:34.37TecnoBratnot sure
01:34.41TecnoBratsome weird guy
01:34.44TecnoBratnamed Skosiris
01:34.46nicklozoni imagine
01:34.47TecnoBratever met him?
01:34.47KalrothA random canuck!
01:34.57nicklozonhaha, canadian?
01:35.02TecnoBratoh right, thats the other reason to use wowhead
01:35.09TecnoBratits written by one of my fellow canadians!
01:35.12*** join/#wowhead Hitmanblack (i=Hitmanbl@cpe-76-173-171-199.socal.res.rr.com)
01:35.27w1dg3tany plans for a wowhead client that works with mac os x?
01:35.34w1dg3t:D
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01:35.48TecnoBratewww its Sky2042
01:35.53HitmanblackI wish wowhead had an rss feed >_>
01:36.03Sky2042so, who missed me?! :D
01:36.45Skosiristhough you created one recently, I couldn't believe it :P
01:36.48KalrothHitmanblack: A feed of what data?
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01:36.57TecnoBratI need to write some articles again also
01:37.09Sky2042:P @ sko
01:37.09bobbyf
01:37.09TecnoBratI've been the king of slacking
01:37.14Skosirislol
01:37.18TecnoBratbut now my RL is sorted out
01:37.22Skosiris~TecnoBrat
01:37.24TecnoBratso ... I probably have time again
01:37.36Skosirisinfobot, Tecnobrat is the kind of slacking.
01:37.36infobotSkosiris: okay
01:37.54TecnoBratinfobot, no TecnoBrat is the king of slacking
01:37.54infobotTecnoBrat: okay
01:37.59TecnoBrat~tecnobrat
01:38.00infobotwell, tecnobrat is the king of slacking
01:38.07Skosirislol
01:38.13TecnoBratfixed :P
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01:38.41norganplz writ article on farming things as hunter
01:39.01TecnoBratnow that my ex-gf is actually moved out .. and we have our son dealt with ... and baseball is over ... I've got some more time :P
01:39.20Sky2042skosiris, pix are supposed to be uploaded as jpgs, no?
01:39.36Skosirisboth jpgs or pngs are accepted
01:39.44Skosirisand*
01:39.51TecnoBratgif = bad for screenshots
01:39.57nicklozonpngs rule, but you need to strip some code for it to work properly in IE
01:39.58Skosirisyeah, I recently disabled gifs
01:40.06TecnoBratunless you want it to look like shit, and be huge
01:40.08Skosirisgifs screenshots were all dithered & ugly
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01:40.48SkosirisHello there, gvc
01:41.06TecnoBrat(nicklozon) pngs rule, but you need to uninstall IE, and install Firefox, and then you will have no issues
01:41.07TecnoBratFixed.
01:41.41Inc`IE tends to break pngs if there is transparency involved
01:41.45Sky2042skosiris borrowed from http://www.wowwiki.com/WW:IRC , didn't he?
01:41.50Sky2042IE6.0 does
01:41.56TecnoBratheh, yea, he did
01:41.57Sky20427.0 is a bit better in that regard
01:42.00Skosirisyeah some parts
01:42.02nicklozontecno, i only use firefox...but other people dont ;)
01:42.13TecnoBratnicklozon, then they suck! :P
01:42.13Skosirissuch as  "Absolutely anyone is welcome to join!"  or "Once you have an IRC client, join the channel at"
01:42.28nicklozonyou can use a program called tweakpng to remove a certain code and they work fine
01:42.40TecnoBratand the pastey stuff :)
01:42.42gvchi there Skosiris
01:42.47TecnoBratI dont think anyone minds, tbh
01:42.50Sky2042lol
01:42.56Sky2042we like to be copied!
01:43.33Sky2042inc pic skosiris
01:43.37Sky2042:o
01:45.20gvcomani heard that wowhead will launch a api developers can use to access its data; if that's right, what's the timeframe on when you'll release it?
01:45.39Sky2042and where's my weighting? :[
01:45.40TecnoBratSkosiris, do you use a custom php framework for wowhead? Or is it a publically available one?
01:45.46Sky2042lol
01:45.56Sky2042attack of the users1
01:45.57Sky2042!*
01:46.03Viper007BondSkosiris: thanks :D
01:46.10Viper007Bond(hehe, sorry, was playin wow)
01:46.10Sky2042now who gave kirkburn a +sign?
01:46.31TecnoBratgvcoman, that would be awesome
01:46.34TecnoBratwhere did you hear that?
01:46.45Adyswas on underdev page
01:47.09TecnoBratMystery feature #1
01:47.10TecnoBratMystery feature #2
01:47.14AdysWas. :)
01:47.14TecnoBratwhich one is it!
01:47.15TecnoBrat:P
01:47.32TecnoBratI'm just being sarcastic now :P
01:47.36gvcomanaww
01:47.40gvcomandon't tell me you've dropped the idea :(
01:48.20Weezelsee Adys, more people!
01:48.34SkosirisTecnoBrat: it's all home-made
01:48.40TecnoBratAdys, what was the other one? :P
01:48.56AdysCharacter profiling i think
01:49.03TecnoBratSkosiris, ahh cool, seems pretty flexible from what you have done with it.
01:49.08Adyshttp://www.snotr.com/video/112 just been linked in my guild forum
01:49.11Adysshould be an ingame dance
01:49.16Skosirisgvcoman: Try http://www.wowhead.com/?item=1234&xml and see if that covers what you need.  :)
01:49.26Skosirisunfortunately, at the moment you'll have to write your own script to turn that into a pop-up
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01:49.54TecnoBratWTF Adys
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01:49.58TecnoBratThat is scary
01:50.02Adysi said the same
01:50.02Aereusheyo
01:50.10TecnoBratI swear I saw that at the Indian place I went for lunch at
01:50.25gvcomanNICE :D
01:50.49TecnoBratI did...
01:50.59TecnoBratwow, thats .... odd coincidence
01:51.50TecnoBratdamn, Skosiris is baking again
01:53.10Sky2042skiit
01:53.18Sky2042wth are you doing? :[
01:53.27Sky2042data..
01:53.46TecnoBratwtf...
01:54.01TecnoBratmy sister just asked me the most screwed up question
01:54.16TecnoBratI went to the strip club with my brother for his stag ..
01:54.21TecnoBratI'm 25 .. and I have a kid ...
01:54.46TecnoBratshe asks me "had you ever seen a naked women besides chelsea?"
01:54.55Sky2042loooooooooooool
01:54.58TecnoBratChelsea is my ex-gf (and the mother of my son)
01:55.25DroffatsThat's screwed up
01:55.47Adyswhat changed so much in the RC besides the arrow sky?
01:55.55Sky2042just the arrow
01:56.03Adyswhat a difference
01:57.19Adyshttp://www.snotr.com/video/114 these movies are fun
01:57.27SkosirisRC?
01:58.03Sky2042recent changes
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01:59.27Droffatsooooh new data!
02:00.09nicklozonomg, thats a hilarious video!
02:05.02TecnoBratwoot
02:05.05TecnoBratpizza ordered
02:06.20AdysSkosiris waaaaiiiit
02:06.42AdysI need to send you the newer one >.<
02:08.19Adyslol
02:08.24Adyswhat the hell is #20018
02:08.26Adyshttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=20018
02:08.27SkosirisSkyfire: was this the only one?  http://www.wowhead.com/?screenshot=view&3.32483#30461
02:08.32Sky2042yup
02:08.52Sky2042i'll add it using <image>
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02:09.38TecnoBratAdys, its a Angerclaw Grizzly Hide
02:09.47Adyshttp://www.snotr.com/video/40
02:09.59Adysdo want
02:10.11Adystecnobrat i think i sniffed it out of live realms
02:10.13Adysbut no clue what it is
02:10.17TecnoBrathaha
02:10.35TecnoBratI just won 500,000:00GBP from "THE MICROSOFT LOTTERY BOARD UK."
02:10.36TecnoBratwoot
02:10.54TecnoBratits part of the "MSW MEGA JACKPOT LOTTO WINNINGS PROGRAMS"
02:10.56AdysBah I only got a free penis enlargement :( you lucky sod
02:11.01Adyshttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=29305 ^ do want
02:11.25Adys10% proc with that
02:11.37Sky2042what is with people rating things into the 40s/50s?
02:11.48Sky2042skosiris, could you implement a cap on ratings? :(
02:11.49TecnoBratweird, why isn't that item available on search?
02:11.55TecnoBrathttp://www.wowhead.com/?search=Band+of+the+Eternal
02:12.07TecnoBratI was seeing if there was a healer version, with a variation on name
02:12.11Adysbecause wowhead caches searches
02:12.18Adystry again now
02:12.19TecnoBratoh bah
02:12.21Adysrefreshed it
02:12.32TecnoBratahh okay cool
02:12.40TecnoBrathow'd you refresh it? admin tool?
02:12.56TecnoBrato.O the healer one is amazing
02:13.07TecnoBratwtb
02:13.09AdysBand of the Eternal Defender is still hidden somewhere
02:13.25TecnoBratyea, I see that
02:13.26Adysand ye i haz superpowarz
02:13.33TecnoBratsweet
02:13.34Inc`Adys hacks.
02:13.42TecnoBratthat he does
02:13.44Adysonly ever so much
02:13.54TecnoBraton wowwiki too
02:13.58Adysshh
02:14.16Adyswell actually it IS fun that Martin Thunder got unlocked on at least 4 battlegroups
02:14.19TecnoBratI have no desire to play wow tonight
02:14.27TecnoBratthis is ... weird
02:14.49Sky2042no, it's good tecno
02:15.00Sky2042you can do something on wowhead or wowwiki :p
02:15.05TecnoBrathaha
02:15.24Skosirishow about you create an article about the last boss you downed
02:15.27TecnoBratI should do the Leotheras article
02:15.35Skosiristhat works too
02:15.36TecnoBratyea, thats the one :)
02:15.47TecnoBratthats the last boss, haha
02:16.02Skosirishttp://www.wowhead.com/?npc=21215
02:16.12Skosirishttp://www.wowwiki.com/Leotheras_the_Blind
02:16.17Sky2042skosiris, how do we use [img]? :[
02:16.32SkosirisYou don't. Yet. :P
02:16.39Adysthats one seriously sweet screenshot
02:16.43Adysapart from the health bar
02:16.45Sky2042bah. that button's been sitting there forever
02:16.58Skosiriswait hold on
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02:18.48Adys#20018 is indeed from live
02:19.29TecnoBratwtb more instance maps!
02:19.51Sky2042wtb a new "most visited" page!
02:20.02norganyes!!
02:20.04norgani got my life stealing
02:20.16SkosirisI've got the 4 instance maps for Auchindoun that needs to be added w/ boss locations
02:20.24Skosirisneed*
02:20.35Sky2042ok
02:20.38Skosiriswant to take care of this Tecno?
02:20.51Sky2042when there's a comment with a rating over 200, there's something wrong with the system...
02:20.56Sky2042you really do need to add caps
02:20.59Skosiris(similar to http://www.wowhead.com/?zone=3846)
02:21.11Skosirislol
02:21.33Skosirisisn't it alright to have comments to good to be true?
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02:21.46AdysOver 30 000 screenshots have been sent now
02:21.51Adysnearly 30500
02:22.14Sky2042http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=22917#M0z
02:22.18Sky2042-_-
02:22.24Sky2042you are not prepared, nubs
02:22.27TecnoBratSkosiris, yep, I can do that
02:22.57Skosiris230 now :)
02:23.29Sky2042bah, skosiris, i just knocked it 5 points ;_;
02:23.36Sky2042and then you go and reverse it
02:23.38Skosirisnooo
02:23.52Sky2042question
02:23.55Skosirishold on, let me change all negative ratings for this comment to... positive ones
02:23.55Sky2042can you deleted passages?
02:24.03TecnoBratLOL
02:24.21TecnoBratthe "He conjectures that your level of preparation could perhaps be improved somewhat." one?
02:24.23Skosirisyou will be able soon
02:24.26Skosirisyeah
02:24.36Sky2042yeah tecno
02:24.39Sky2042oh good skosiris
02:24.40TecnoBratthats an awesome comment
02:24.46Sky2042he copy pasted from wowwiki :X
02:24.59TecnoBratoh :(
02:25.04Sky2042not that one
02:25.07Sky2042look just below it
02:25.08Adyshttp://www.wowhead.com/?npc=19228#go-to-comment-125747
02:25.12Adysif you're bored
02:25.28Skosiris+287 it is
02:25.47TecnoBratrofl
02:25.47Sky2042adys... why didn't you just add that as an editor?...
02:25.49AdysWhich one sko?
02:25.53Skosirishttp://www.wowhead.com/?npc=22917#M0z
02:26.01AdysSky because it'd make the page HUGE and unreadable
02:26.07Sky2042true
02:26.10Adysbesides, its full of spoiler
02:26.14Sky2042just a thought
02:26.18TecnoBratand being in a comment ... changes that how?
02:26.24Adysits at the bottom
02:26.29Sky2042how about that he "has a show he puts on"?
02:26.29Adysinstead of being at the top
02:26.32*** part/#wowhead Neo88 (n=taoufik8@adsl196-126-111-206-196.adsl196-4.iam.net.ma)
02:26.44Adysbesides im quite against articles for random npcs ;)
02:27.03Sky2042_food
02:27.07Sky2042_back 30
02:27.32AdysI can add it as article for a minute so you see what it'd look like
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02:29.43Adyshttp://www.wowhead.com/?spell=625
02:29.47TecnoBratwow, those are so not even funny
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02:33.20KeshicusYou know what I hate? Comments that get a +50 rating because it says "This item drops from this boss." And there is a (1) from Who drops it tab.
02:33.45MiyariThey probably got rated high before the item was actually added to the boss' drop table.
02:33.56MiyariAnd then the rest of the votes came from people too lazy to click a tab.
02:34.00Keshicusit was from a boss
02:34.11KeshicusI don't see how it cant be made a connection
02:34.33MiyariYou question the rampant ignorance within the WoW community? lol
02:34.34SkosirisKeshicus: couldn't agree more
02:34.55KeshicusSweet, a higher being agrees with me
02:35.00MiyariI'd love a vast purge of "drops from" comments.
02:35.18MiyariI agree with you too although I'm quite a lower being ;)
02:35.24KeshicusI posted "Thanks for post that incase the tabs dont work" I got around -32
02:35.32MiyariNice!
02:35.47KeshicusThanks for that post*
02:35.52MiyariI love that Illidan comment, btw.
02:36.12MiyariBut zomg at the WoWWiki spam lore D:
02:36.37PhogYa, or I hate when people tell you where a quest item is or something when you can just click on it.
02:36.45TecnoBratI'd like to be able to just -100 points from a comment :P
02:36.50TecnoBratMiyari where?
02:37.11DroffatsWhat's even worse is when they ask you where a quest item is
02:38.04Miyarilol the entire life history of Illidan on his page
02:39.18Adyshttp://www.wowhead.com/?screenshot=view&3.3605#25852
02:39.30Miyariwhat a pretty quiver
02:40.33Skosirisdo you think we should add a "Do's & Don'ts" page for comments?
02:41.05Keshicusin an FAQ or something maybe
02:41.11Keshicusnothing too extreme
02:41.40Miyarichances are the people leaving the most inane comments are the ones also least likely to ready any such thing
02:41.58KeshicusAmen to that
02:42.24Skosiriswell said
02:42.40Miyariunless it were in giant red text on the front page
02:42.41Keshicusready=read?
02:42.43MiyariHAY DON'T BE DUM
02:42.46Miyariyeah lol
02:42.51Skosirislol
02:42.53Miyarisorry i'm trying to do stuff in wow atm being nagged
02:42.57KeshicusWell I did say nothing too extreme
02:43.08KeshicusThen again, what if we have to ?
02:43.16KeshicusNot we, you.
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02:43.57Sky2042_skosiris has enough time for wow now?
02:44.04KeshicusI guess.
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02:44.39MiyariI wanna do fun stuff!
02:45.23MiyariI miss wiki editing and fun internets stuffs
02:45.31MiyariI dun do anything but play WoW :(
02:45.37AdysI think ashbringer is linkable on my realm
02:46.19Adysits not meh
02:46.34Skosiris|WoWIt's not too late Sky to get back into the game
02:46.36Sky2042i guess i don't need bc, but i do need my mom's approval :O
02:46.48Kirkburn|afkHonk
02:46.53Sky2042HOOONK
02:47.55Kirkburn|afk:)
02:48.13Kirkburn|afkSee, this is why I deserve +, Sky =)
02:48.20Adyskirk http://www.snotr.com/video/112
02:48.31*** mode/#wowhead [-v Kirkburn|afk] by Adys
02:48.34Adysbwahaha
02:48.40*** mode/#wowhead [+v Kirkburn|afk] by Adys
02:48.47Kirkburn|afkhehe
02:48.48Skosiris|WoWAdys shouldn't abuse his powers in this channel :P
02:48.52Sky2042ooooooo
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02:48.54Sky2042warned!
02:48.56Adysrawr
02:49.09AdysI can still abuse them in #wowwiki
02:49.15Skosiris|WoWheck yeah
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02:49.31Adysinfobot, dont you agree?
02:49.40Kirkburn|afkDamn right, #wowwiki is *the* number one channel for abuse
02:49.45Adyslol
02:50.13Sky2042loltruth kirkburn
02:50.18Sky2042btw, bring it adys!
02:50.23Sky2042>:)
02:50.38KeshicusThat guy in the video...is sooo cool
02:51.39Adys#20018 not up on either armories
02:52.16Adyslol
02:52.26Adysits up on gws and wowdbu but not thott nor alla
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02:52.58AdysLast updated for Patch 1.7.0 by Maldivia
02:53.01Adysright ok
02:53.10Adysscratch that
02:54.51Miyaribleh i dun wanna run kara
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02:54.54Miyariwtb miyariclone
02:55.27Miyarioh my word are those our exalted scale of the sands rings?!?!
02:55.40Miyarihttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=29309 and whatnot
02:55.43Adysyeah
02:55.46Miyarioh wow
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02:55.50Adysim searching the tanking one atm
02:55.55Miyariomg i can't wait o_o
02:55.57AdysWith mah suparpowars etc
02:56.53KeshicusOne of your banner ads says "Are you happy Paris is in Jail?" Yes, No, Answer and win a free purple razor!
02:57.07KeshicusProblem is, isn't she out?
02:57.14AdysEpix razor
02:57.27Miyarifind the tanking one D:
02:57.33Miyariid assume band of the eternal defender
02:57.41Miyarii wanna see ;-;
02:57.45Keshicusis there a melee dps one?
02:57.46Adyssearching it atm
02:57.59Inc`Did any one else hear about Kara rep rewards or is it just me?
02:58.10Adysyes
02:58.16Adysa couple of enchanting formulas, alchemy crap
02:58.17KeshicusSomething more then the rings?
02:58.18Adys2.2
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02:59.51Miyariuuurgh i want that healing ring now lol
02:59.52MendoI thought there were some JC recipies also?
03:00.00Mendofor Violet Eye rep?
03:00.07MendoOr was that just released in general..
03:00.08PeterLOLYeah there are, a few new ones
03:00.22PeterLOLNo, they were in fact added recently, if i can recall
03:00.37Adys2.2
03:00.42PeterLOLZin
03:00.42PeterLOLg
03:00.49Adysfuck sake, this ring is nowhere logical
03:02.01Kalrothwhich ring?
03:02.12AdysTanking Scale of the Sands exalted
03:02.28TecnoBratKeshicus, heh, those ads are evil
03:02.30PeterLOLwow, thats some ePeen right tehre
03:02.36TecnoBratI know, I work for an online media company
03:03.49KalrothAdys: Oh, since it doesn't show up in the item search or?
03:04.02Adysits not 29250-29350
03:04.15Adysthe other exalted rings are 29301, 29304 and 29309 iirc
03:04.18Miyari4.4k rep from revered =/
03:04.44PeterLOLMaybe they had that ring remade, and had to grant it a new iiirc value? :)
03:04.50PeterLOLlets plot
03:05.00AdysKalroth btw http://www.snotr.com/video/112
03:05.07Adysi cant stop watching it
03:05.13Adysits like an addiction
03:05.15KalrothAdys: watched, she's ho!
03:05.18Kalrothhot*
03:05.26Kalrothhe's a hunk too though
03:05.32Adyscant have it all
03:05.56Miyarihe doesnt want you he has an entire posse
03:06.17Adysthis dance really needs to be implemented for next race
03:06.19Miyariher too
03:06.34PeterLOLwow, the cultural differences between the civilized world and the..
03:06.48Miyarilol this screwed up west side story kinda thing
03:06.48Adysand the rest
03:07.06KeshicusI think it's awesome
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03:07.34Miyarii think it is a beautiful night to wipe in a bad kara pug
03:07.48KeshicusThe hell pugs kara?
03:08.08Miyarippl i know
03:08.14orly|pariahEvery server pugs Kara.
03:08.18Adysmost
03:08.22Inc`Adys, I hate you so much.
03:08.29Adysthanks
03:08.38KalrothBe nice to the frenchies!
03:08.52Adysyou didnt have to say i was french
03:08.53Inc`And you're right Kalroth, the girl is hot
03:08.56Adysbeware my kick powers
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03:09.16PeterLOLWilling to demonstrate?
03:09.22KeshicusThe girl looks like my mom and the guy looks like my dad
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03:09.34KeshicusI think my parents did something without my knowledge
03:09.39AdysLemme guess, you look like their son too?
03:09.45Infinity-Xevening everyone :)
03:09.51KeshicusI was adopted
03:09.52AdysHey inf
03:09.54Sky2042i think that video's about, oh, 10, 15 years old
03:09.57Sky2042:O
03:10.01Sky2042:P
03:10.04Keshicusj/k
03:10.07Adyssandwichtime
03:10.09Adysbrb
03:10.10KalrothI guess the chick wouldn't be that hot today then
03:10.18KeshicusI'm 16 now so that could be it
03:10.30AdysKalroth: http://www.snotr.com/video/112
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03:10.39AdysThey're all hot!
03:10.39KalrothStopit!
03:10.47AdysApart from most of them
03:11.01AdysCoreiel IS hot and
03:11.03Adysthats it.
03:11.16PeterLOLThat has got to be George Michael of India
03:12.09Adyswow
03:12.11Adysi just realized
03:12.19Adysmetzen and that indian are twins
03:12.31Adyshaha awesome
03:19.32Miyarilol im playing with a bunch of friends who have barely changed their gear since 60 ><
03:23.38KeshicusThat indian guy looks like Leonidas when he grins with his mouth open
03:24.40Adysno he looks like metzen
03:24.43Adysno other way
03:25.49Adyshttp://www.evamartin.com/diary/designing_alexs_ring
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03:31.58KeshicusPurpose for that? Was that person making the sands of time rings or something?
03:33.01KeshicusOh..
03:34.09Sky2042eh?
03:35.36KalrothAdys: Here's a new song for you http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTtpawbIPuk
03:36.51Adysthat was almost awful >.<
03:37.32Adysnot that bad
03:37.45AdysWell, no, not THAT bad, but still
03:38.34KalrothThe puppet scares me.
03:39.15PeterLOLSomething I find funny is how you no longer (due patch 2.1) can mine when theres mobs around, because they'll agro, whereas you can still drop down inches from a raging beast to herb a node :)
03:39.58KalrothPeterLOL: The developers aren't done farming Slave Pens for Ancient Lichen, it'll be implemented once they done!
03:40.44PeterLOLStill, you'd have to be quite sneaky to really farm those Lichens, usually means to take a few ones out solo right?
03:40.55KalrothNope
03:41.06PeterLOLI mean out in the open, you can pretty much always land on a herb, pick it and mount up, without agroing anything.
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03:43.44KeshicusTwo kirks?
03:44.01KeshicusThere is a tear in the fabric of the universe
03:44.08Sky2042nah
03:44.09KeshicusNow someone is walking around with a tear on their shirt thanks to you
03:44.10Sky2042one's just afk
03:44.13Weezelin slave pens i can herb all of the ancient lichen with ease on my rogue
03:44.23KalrothNo no, the other Kirkburn left his keyboard (away from keyboard) and went to a new keyboard.
03:44.46KeshicusHis keyboard was seeing other hands?
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03:44.52KalrothWeezel: I do it easily with a priest, although that -aggro spell helps on one of the spots :)
03:45.09Kalrothmind soothe
03:45.31KeshicusI <3 that spell on my priest when I got it
03:45.34Weezelya Kalroth
03:45.36Keshicusmade life easy to get around
03:45.42Weezelmy rogue is my herber tho
03:45.52Weezelancient lichen is so cheap on my server anyway
03:45.58Weezelstack is about 6g
03:46.29Kalrothwow
03:46.41PeterLOL20G on my server
03:46.58Weezelhehe
03:47.13Weezeltempted to buy alot of it and stockpile it
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03:52.08PeterLOLdont get it
03:52.30PeterLOLwhen is shaman supposed to become more simple to play? lvl 18 and struggling with equal leveled mobs
03:53.05Sky2042uh, upgrade your gear?
03:53.05Sky2042:
03:53.06Sky2042:P
03:53.14PeterLOLdid!
03:53.33PeterLOLgot stamina/agility greenies, plus a few rare ones just because i felt i had to
03:53.50KalrothSweet, I'm moving to Wisconsin!
03:53.52Kalrothhttp://wcco.com/local/local_story_207143827.html
03:54.00Kalroth"Three men who dug up a young woman's corpse to have sex with it after seeing her obituary photo cannot be charged with attempted sexual assault because Wisconsin has no law against necrophilia, an appeals court ruled Thursday."
03:55.07Adyshere goes my breakfast
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03:55.14KalrothAt this hour?
03:55.20AdysI woke up hours ago
03:55.37KalrothYour sleeping schedule is even more fucked than mine then
03:55.50Adys:P
03:55.53Sky2042lol
03:55.59Adyswoke up around midnight
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04:09.33Homcyhello
04:09.39Weezelhi
04:09.43KeshicusHello thar
04:09.48Homcyso
04:09.51Homcywhats this all aobut
04:09.54Homcya wowhead ird
04:09.55Homcyirc
04:10.24Homcycan we argue about what items belong to what class in real time????!!!
04:10.33Weezelyes
04:10.42Weezeleverything belongs to hunters!
04:10.51KeshicusOh god I saw this coming miles away
04:10.51Homcyrod of the sunking - shaman priority imo
04:12.32Keshicuswhen the world trade center bombing occurred, the reporters said they could not retrieve the black box. my friend, who was stoned at the time, said "goddamn, ppl must be desperate for a playstation 2"
04:12.34Miyariours went to a warrior
04:12.44Keshicusmt
04:13.10Homcylol and lol
04:13.24Miyarithe shaman have all been getting Syphon of the Nathrezim
04:13.32Homcyfuck yeah
04:13.36Homcywhoring dkp for that
04:13.40Homcyi want to DW em
04:13.59Miyarione of ours is using that and     Rising Tide
04:14.06Homcyyeah
04:14.09Homcyits a great setup
04:14.17Homcybut im going for DW
04:14.22Homcyits slightly better
04:14.34Homcy2.8 speeds
04:14.39Homcyand the proc is HAWTNESS
04:14.45Miyarithe other i think still has a netherbane
04:14.54Homcyhey
04:15.01Homcyi use netherbane :(
04:15.11Miyarinothing wrong with that
04:15.11Homcyrod of the sun king wont drop
04:15.14Miyariwe take 2 enh heh
04:15.19Homcynice
04:15.33Homcynot many take 2 to a raid
04:16.07PeterLOLwhen do i start dual wielding as a shaman?
04:16.11Homcy40
04:16.21Homcy40 is the earliest u can
04:16.24PeterLOLand thats all enhancement specc i take it?
04:16.28Homcyand you want to di it right away
04:16.30Homcyyes
04:16.37Komodonever raided with an enhance shaman =\
04:16.43Komodo< rogue
04:16.45Homcyhaha
04:16.45KeshicusI raid with mine
04:16.51Homcysucks for you komodo
04:16.53PeterLOLhum, i thought i'd dual wield axe of rin'ji, does it sound okay?
04:17.00KeshicusWindfury totem = the pw
04:17.01Homcyyeah
04:17.02Keshicuspwn*
04:17.07Homcyand 10% more ao
04:17.08Homcyap
04:17.11Homcyand 112 st
04:17.12Homcyr
04:17.25Komodoye like 300 ap im missing out on :<
04:17.31Homcyyeah
04:17.35Homcytell your gm hes an idiot
04:17.41Homcyand pimpsmack him
04:17.43Homcyand get one
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04:17.47Komodowe had one
04:17.50Komodohe sold his acc
04:17.54Homcyowned
04:17.58Komodo2 raiding shamen both resto
04:18.02Homcyhaha
04:18.06PeterLOLarent enh. shamans welcome in raids or what? :o
04:18.08Homcyno ele's either
04:18.11HomcyEhhh
04:18.18Homcyalot of guilds are weary
04:18.19Komodoele's are a wasted raid slot
04:18.20Komodo:P
04:18.21Homcyit all depends on the player
04:18.34Homcyi can pull top 5 easy in a 25 man raid
04:18.39Homcyif a shaman isnt top 10 in dps
04:18.41Homcyhes not worth having
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04:19.05Homcyunless hes resto
04:19.25Paradoxanyone know how many times can you reset pre-tbc non raid instances a day?
04:19.27PeterLOLi've been outdpsed several times by elemental shamans, but then again, im not very worthy to call myself a mage :>
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04:19.35Homcy5
04:20.12Komodoyou a rogue Homcy?
04:20.12Pandemic-vHellit's 5 per hour Paradox
04:20.17Komodoor shaman
04:20.23Paradox5 per hour? I thought that might be it..
04:20.31Komodoye 5 an hour
04:20.34Homcyim an enhance shaman...
04:20.35Homcyduhhh
04:20.41Paradoxawesome ;o easy way to farm for scourgestones then :D
04:20.54Paradoxis it 1hour from your first reset or every hour server time?
04:21.02Pandemic-vHellfrom your first reset afaik
04:21.03Homcythe first one
04:21.06Komodofirst reset
04:21.12Komododamn chinese farmers
04:21.18Komodowouldnt be a cap if it wernt for them!
04:21.25Homcyhaha
04:21.45Komodowhat network is this again
04:21.51Homcynight all
04:21.53Komodothink ill perform this chan :P
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04:22.13PeterLOL1H vs. 2H, go!
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04:22.59KeshicusDW is for pve
04:23.01Keshicus2h for pvp
04:23.07KeshicusRed light!
04:23.20WeezelKomodo, freenode
04:23.30Paradoxso what's this discussion about enhancement shammies?
04:23.31PeterLOLBut, will i be using a 2H until 40 then?
04:23.46KeshicusI was actually out dmged by a tank in a 10man raid once
04:23.53Keshicusit was embarassing
04:24.12KeshicusIf they didn't nerf windfury so much it wouldn't be so bad.
04:24.40KeshicusFact that it has a CD makes it proc less then it says
04:25.03Komododruid tanks do quite nice dmg
04:25.26Paradoxwell it does proc at a 20% chance... when it's not on cooldown :P
04:25.56Paradoxjust a case of tooltip not telling the whole story :E
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04:34.32Paradoxdamnit forester, give me my flaming piccolo :(
04:35.25Paradoxwow that sucked :E I reset strath but didn't notice it never actually reset.. walked down the tunnel, opened the gate and walked into the abyss and fell to my death :<
04:40.36Weezelowned
04:40.56Weezeli went to get a piccolo on my priest, got the drop first time
04:43.08DroffatsDon't use it afk on a mailbox! http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/05/17/gm-says-mailbox-piccolo-concerts-are-right-out/
04:44.47Inc`haha
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04:49.17Weezellol
04:49.25Weezelnow im gona have to get one on my hunter
04:49.49Weezelfemale NE in christmas outfit with appropriate hat dancing in shattrath
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04:50.39kinkeriixi use the piccolo in the middle of the AH and gms dont care :)
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04:51.22Paradoxhehe
04:51.56Paradoxim trying to farm for it + some other trinkets in there such as cannonball runner / ramsteins bolts, while also getting scourgestones and maybe barons horse (I wish)
04:54.28Weezel:p
04:54.33Weezelwhat class do you play ?
04:59.35Paradoxshammy
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05:04.29Weezelnever tried soloing that instance on my priest or rogue
05:04.34Weezeldoubt my rogue could do it :p
05:05.49Inc`Doubt a priest could do it either, unless they were decked in epics
05:06.00Inc`Well, with shackle, maybe...
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05:06.13Weezelhttp://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Al'Akir&n=agrmar
05:06.15Weezelmy priest
05:06.19brenyepahwhats up guys!
05:06.29Weezelhallo
05:07.12brenyepahdo the dailys reset at midnight s/t?
05:07.43The_BugI think it's 3:00 server. Somewhere between 3-5 server.
05:07.55Droffats4 AM
05:08.23Inc`That's some nice gear Weezel
05:08.23brenyepahahhhh no good
05:08.31The_BugYar, good Priest stuffs.
05:09.22The_BugWish I had that kind of gear for my Druid for DPS. Anymore, it's just easier to farm in my healing gear so I can live :-/
05:09.35Weezelhehe
05:09.48Miyarinice stuff weezel
05:10.00Weezelits getting there
05:10.01The_Bughttp://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Cenarius&n=Imabug <-- My baby
05:10.08Inc`My guild has a nice raiding schedule so I usually set aside one week a month and grind shadow
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05:10.17Weezelthe shoulders look retarded though, wings .. need the hat to complete the look
05:10.25The_BugHehe
05:10.36The_BugI like the wings, though. Looks awesome.
05:10.46The_BugBetter than looking like a totem pole in Tier 6 x.x
05:10.51Inc`http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Silver+Hand&n=Norielys
05:11.00Inc`Fear my crappy spell damage gear and shadow spec!
05:11.01Miyarihttp://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Illidan&n=Miyari
05:11.05MiyariI like my totem pole. -_-
05:11.10The_BugHey, you gotta start somewhere!
05:11.29The_BugI want your gear O.O
05:11.53MiyariKill me and loot it when it drops on the ground.
05:11.57The_BugHaha
05:12.30Inc`lol
05:12.38Inc`I don't think I could kill a druid
05:13.02The_BugDid you read the Nihilium Druid lead post, Miyari? I've been wondering what Druids in higher-end raiding guilds have been thinking to that.
05:13.45Weezelwhat was the post ?
05:13.52The_Bughttp://nihilum.wazap.com/forum/raids-classes/8698-druids-look-here-we-times-need.html
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05:14.00Weezeli hate druids in pvp :p
05:14.11savagessi <3 DRUIDS
05:14.19The_BugI love my Druid in PvP
05:14.34savagessIs any one balance?
05:14.43The_BugUsually takes a full swing of Horde to make me think about running. Usually, I can survive a few minutes before backup hits.
05:15.01The_BugI used to run Balance, Savagess. Pre-BC with over 650 spell damage. Got burned out on it, and shifted to a hybrid post-BC
05:15.33MiyariWhat is all of this garbage.
05:15.42The_BugGood and bad to pre-BC Moonkin: Good - I was not feared, and could one-shot a few people in PvP before I got tarted. Bad: I get one shotted because I had less than 3.3k health x.x;
05:15.42MiyariIt looks like it was written by a child.
05:15.58savagesslol
05:16.07The_BugHis typing is horrendous, I agree. But the points he brings up... I honestly don't see the issues he's apparently having.
05:16.12MiyariIs this supposed to be some honest, well-thought-out call-out to Blizzard? It's no wonder they don't give a shit about druids.
05:16.17MiyariWell, we bring 2-3 druids per raid.
05:16.43MiyariJust because Nihilium feels one way doesn't make it the canon of raiding.
05:16.43MiyariWe also bring a retribution paladin and 2 enhancement shaman.
05:16.45savagessI love my friend hes a holy/disc priest and in PvP he just heal bots me makes me unstoppable
05:16.47The_BugEnh Shaman are huge for melee DPS.
05:17.07The_BugHell, throw one in the tank group, and it's a crapton more thread for the MT, which raises your overall DPS as well.
05:17.10MiyariI agree with most everything he said from the scan-over and ignoring the obscenities and spam of "..."s but that has to be one of the most ignorant posts addressing the outplayed issue I've ever seen.
05:17.56The_BugPaladins,Shamans and priests are all superiour healers to the druid class. Druids have the slowest heals of all classes <-- This made me roffle in real life, honestly.
05:17.57Miyari"We see the raid take XXXX dmg, and you click your lifebloom or w/e and before it has ticked ONCE you see that flash of light heal the target back too full and your mana spent on HoT was wasted, it feels GREAT... JUST GREAT."
05:18.00Miyarirofl.
05:18.02Miyarithat's the story of my life
05:18.10The_BugYah.
05:18.18The_BugLifebloom is more preemptive anymore than anything. That and tank-stacking.
05:18.36The_BugAlthough I love pissing off the Priests. Rejuv a target, wait for them to start a heal, then swiftmend it, just to screw with them.
05:18.41MiyariI roll lifeblooms on any MTs and use it to raidheal because any HOT I apply is going to be overwritten so it might as well be a cheap one.
05:18.55MiyariSo I'm not wasting mana showing the paladins who to flash heal.
05:19.02The_BugDepending on the fight, I'm more HT or LB heavy.
05:19.18MiyariMy RL puts me on MT healing very often though
05:19.28The_BugRight now, we're working on Hydross, and for how HoT happy I normally am, during transitions, I have to back off and go strictly HT for a few seconds.
05:19.35MiyariHe trusts my flexibility and knows that I can do it from pre-tree days lol
05:19.39The_BugHehe
05:19.48The_BugAny Druid that played pre-BC should know what "Main Tank" healing is :p
05:19.50MiyariAnd there's crap in BT/Hyjal that is like Patchwerk healing all over again.
05:19.58The_BugEwww
05:20.00MiyariI love Supremus llo
05:20.03The_BugDidn't ever kill Patch, but was there for it.
05:20.04Miyarilol
05:20.20The_BugWatching the tanks go up and down on health bars... God, that was the funkiest crap ever.
05:20.22MiyariSupremus is like Patchwerk pt.2 with a lot more random imo.
05:20.27The_BugOuch.
05:20.30MiyariGood stuff
05:20.38MiyariI'm a glutton for punishment.
05:20.58MiyariArchimonde makes me look good, though, nobody can stand still long enough to heal so my HOTs actually tick muahahah.
05:21.06The_BugKek.
05:21.13The_BugReminds me of our first VR kill a month ago.
05:21.57The_BugSo I'm curious - Spirit, Mp5, mix of both, or depends on fight for you?
05:22.50MiyariMix of both, wearing almost the same gear every fight.
05:22.58MiyariI tried the whole spirit junkie song-and-dance
05:23.11MiyariPure garbage for anything other than human encampment Hyjal
05:23.20MiyariBrilliance Aura ftw
05:23.24The_Bug:O
05:23.28MiyariI was rolling with over 700 Spi raid buffed usually
05:23.36MiyariBrilliance Aura bringing that up to 1.4k
05:23.43The_BugI think I'm just shy of 675 Spirit in raids right now o.O
05:23.57MiyariI'm undergeared by my own feeling ;x
05:24.03The_BugHeh.
05:24.08MiyariI'm still catching up again heh I had taken a break for almost all of TBC
05:24.17MiyariBut anyway I've mostly been switching to good ol' fashioned HEALER gear
05:24.28MiyariNot that "you are this spec use this gear plz" stuff Blizz has been throwing around
05:24.34The_BugCatching up again? You've got gear I could only dream of right now.
05:25.05Miyarihttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=32328 Druid Spell Haste = Garbage
05:25.29Miyarihttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=30111 Great, but for all that spirit you lose any hope of mp5
05:25.46MiyariI need to remind myself to upload a ss of me in those so I don't have to see that naked cow ever again
05:25.51The_BugHeh.
05:26.01The_BugYea, female Tauren. That's hawt. We have an overabundance of males on our server.
05:26.06The_BugI think we have like two that seriously raid. o.O
05:26.09Miyarihttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=32240 Ok there's the mp5 and lots of it, it's cool though we didn't need spirit.
05:26.28MiyariWe just got some x-server female feral. I was a bit possessive but I'm weaning on the idea a lil.
05:26.38The_BugHaha.
05:26.42MiyariI'm sticking to t6 tbh
05:26.48The_BugEh.
05:26.49Miyarimp5 AND spirit :P
05:26.50The_BugI want my T6 2p
05:26.54The_BugThat's all I need.
05:27.04The_Bug2p T6 would kick up my HPS by at least 150~
05:27.13MiyariI'm lazy and I don't mend as much as I should
05:27.15The_BugI swear, Swiftmend is on cooldown nearly 100% of the time.
05:27.21MiyariI save it for the clutch saves the shamans always claim
05:27.26MiyariDID U SEE ME
05:27.30The_BugAlthough with my full T4 now, NS is the same way.
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05:27.43Miyariwhat's t4  bonus?
05:27.47The_Bug24 seconds off HT
05:27.47Miyarii never got any
05:27.49The_BugErrr
05:27.51The_BugNS*
05:27.52MiyariLOL
05:27.57MiyariHT really is a long spell..
05:28.00The_BugHaha, yea :p
05:28.05The_BugSue me - It's 12:30 here XD
05:28.07MiyariI could use 24 seconds off :(
05:28.11MiyariSame here :P
05:28.12The_Bug:(
05:28.20The_BugORLY?
05:28.28MiyariBut nah I was stacking spirit like "teehee wow lookit this!!"
05:28.38Miyariwearing stuff like http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29977
05:28.45Miyariand those shoulders i linked earlier
05:28.54Miyariand oogling the idea of http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30899
05:28.55The_BugGeez
05:29.14The_BugDas a lot of spirit O.O
05:29.22MiyariBut when I actually started getting back in the swing of things it was like "hey I'm not going to get any downtime with 3 second heals"
05:29.44MiyariAnd Reflection or w/e the hell they changed the talent's name to isn't quite gonna cut it entirely to depend on
05:30.06Miyari5sr is an impossible concept with 3 second casts and HOTs you wanna refresh imo
05:30.18The_BugIt's hard to dodge now.
05:30.39The_Bug5SR is doable, only if you trust the other healers, in my opinion.
05:30.43MiyariSo I realized that the spirit -> mp5 contribution I was getting from these OMGSOMUCHSPI items was severely lacking compared to a nice balanced piece with noteable mp5
05:31.11MiyariI'd rather let the spirit compliment the mp5 than replace it
05:31.25The_BugI think someone figured out that to get 9 spirit to 2mp5 (Exactly the same for Druids), you needed to be outside the 5sr like 40% of the time, which is crazy.
05:31.37MiyariSo of course Blizz repeated the past and made sure that all the spirit and mp5 gear was cloth again
05:31.43The_BugI remember reading up on it, and thinking "God, I'm lucky to be 20% outside"
05:31.51Miyarilol
05:31.58The_BugWhat's even worse
05:32.06The_BugIs that when we're learning bosses, I'm usually one of the last healers alive.
05:32.08Miyariman wtf this is weird ive never talked to another druid about healing >.>
05:32.13The_BugHaha.
05:32.39Miyarisrsly
05:32.45MiyariI'm like a hermit.
05:32.46The_BugIt's interesting to me. I haven't had the pleasure of speaking to a refined Druid that has actual experience in raids.
05:33.00The_BugUsually, I get the "LOL I KILL MOROES I WIN"
05:33.13MiyariI've been everywhere :(
05:33.16The_Bug'Course, I'm still in T5 instances learning them. So I guess I'm not too far off :-/
05:34.33MiyariWhat do you think
05:34.39The_Bug?
05:34.45Miyarihttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=32350 vs http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30911
05:35.21The_BugHonestly, I'd go Touch of Inspiration.
05:35.26MiyariSo much end-game loot is identical now
05:35.39MiyariFor almost every priest piece there's an identical druid piece except for the ones that count :(
05:35.44MiyariYeah that's what I'm thinking too tbh
05:35.46The_BugThe loss of about 10 healing is worth more than the loss of 12mp5 static vs 25 potential spirit regen.
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05:36.37Porahai guys
05:36.42The_BugHowdy.
05:36.56MiyariThe spirit regen in normal regen would be comparable...
05:37.05Miyari16mp5 basically
05:37.11The_BugComparable so long as you'd be outside 5sr about 75% of the time.
05:37.17Miyarilolololol
05:37.18Miyari:P
05:37.22The_BugEven with Living Spirit
05:37.29The_BugIt's about 60% of the time, then.
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05:38.05MiyariDuring 15% regeneration, this item would regenerate 0.9375 mana per tick, or 28 mana/minute.
05:38.19The_BugKek.
05:38.38Miyarivs 114mpm
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05:38.46Miyarilewl.
05:38.49Adys.
05:38.52The_BugYar, that's just sad.
05:39.13The_BugI'd rather have the static regen, and know I'm getting it, honestly.
05:39.27The_BugI keep enough Spirit to basically get full mana back from an Innervate, or clsoe to it, raid buffed.
05:39.36The_BugAfter I hit that point, Mp5 all the way.
05:39.44Miyaribuuuuuut
05:39.52The_Bug?
05:39.56Miyarithen there's this puppy http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30908
05:40.09Miyariwe've gotten two so far so the amount of ppl who need em is running out
05:40.20The_BugEh, pass. I'd still prefer a MH / OH combo.
05:40.23Miyarithe infamous staff vs. mh/oh debate -_-
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05:40.25The_BugMore potential healing and stats.
05:40.29Miyarii'd have to do some raw math
05:40.31The_BugPotential is that key word.
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05:40.42Miyarimore potential healing to get flash of lighted amirite
05:40.47The_BugOh snap!
05:40.50Miyarilol
05:41.26The_BugAnd still haven't found a decent cloak, I see.
05:41.28Miyarii could see a lightfathom / touch of ins being comparable if not better
05:41.30MiyariGOD NO
05:41.33Miyarii just got out of freaking kara
05:41.39Miyaritrying to at least get the prince or riding hood noe
05:41.45The_BugHaha
05:41.56Miyarii've my eyes on the kael cloak but we havent gotten another yet
05:41.57The_Bug5 man Kara with your guild? :p
05:42.01Miyarihttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=29989
05:42.08Miyarino 10 man kara with some freaking terrible pug
05:42.17The_BugAhh. Hate those :-/
05:42.18Miyarithat we stopped after opera and i went and kicked a hole in my wall
05:42.27The_BugOuch.
05:42.29The_BugThe wall okay?
05:42.39Miyarithen took some tylenol because my back was hurting so bad for having to hold all of the terribles on it
05:42.44Miyarias my gleader would say -_-
05:42.49The_BugHeh.
05:42.55Miyaric'thun cloak rocks lokl
05:42.58The_BugDon'tcha love runs like that? Where you know you're the reason it's working.
05:43.08Miyarii kept sending angry tells and being generally irate lol
05:43.12The_BugIf you left, it would all go to hell, but you can't, because there's some burning purpose to be there.
05:43.21Miyarii'd do anything my friends ask =/
05:43.24The_BugHah.
05:43.37The_BugOh hey, I'm not the only one that uses the Lifebloom Idol, too!
05:43.38Miyariwhich leaves me at 30% durability in shatt yelling obscenities at nothing specific
05:43.41The_BugJust realized that ^.^
05:43.46Miyarihehe hell yeah
05:43.46The_BugHaha.
05:43.53Miyarii raid heal with lifebloom so its only practical
05:44.02Miyarievery idol beyond that is teh terrible
05:44.08The_BugIunno.
05:44.31The_BugDepending on the build and situation, the HT idol off Moroes is decent, as well as the one from Hydross with RG cost reduction.
05:44.40The_BugDreamstate Resto would <3 the HT idol.
05:44.47Miyarii got one of those in my bank somewhere
05:44.48Miyarihttp://gallery.filefront.com/miyarigoesmoo//683373/
05:44.53Miyarisee if you can spot the wall-o-idols
05:44.58MiyariI'm a terrible packrat really.
05:45.07The_BugDon't feel bad, I am too.
05:45.12The_BugI think I still have the cat and bear ones somewhere.
05:45.14Miyariand yes those familiar paws above the idols really are cenarion gloves
05:45.19The_BugHell, I think I still have the one from Instructor.
05:45.29Miyarii use the hell out of that actually
05:45.35Miyarifor the patchwerk healing fights
05:45.39Miyaribeat this
05:45.43Miyarii have the one off of viscidus
05:45.55Miyarieven after they changed it and made that pvp reward blue one from zangarmarsh better
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05:46.15Miyaribecause i have some deep hope somewhere that one day they'll change it back to what it used to be, which was the .15 reduced cast on healing touch
05:46.24The_BugHaha, yea, that'd be godly.
05:46.26Miyarii'm hoping it'll come back as some spell haste idol even though i know that'll never happen
05:46.37The_BugBlizzard don't care 'bout old content.
05:46.39Miyarii didnt use the damn thing when it was the .15 sec off rofl
05:46.39The_Bug<PROTECTED>
05:46.44Miyarithey cared enough to nerf my damn idol!
05:46.48The_BugTrue.
05:46.50Miyarientirely unnecessary imo :(
05:47.14Miyarilooking at my bank makes me want to scream and im not even ingame
05:47.21The_BugHah.
05:48.01The_BugOh thank God
05:48.07Weezelmy bank is relatively empty
05:48.08The_BugI'm not the only Druid that carries 100 reagents for Mark.
05:48.19Miyari120-140 actually
05:48.20The_BugI felt weird telling my guild that.
05:48.22The_Bugo.O
05:48.24Miyarithat's me being lazy cause i didnt restock after araid
05:48.28The_BugAhhh.
05:48.28Miyariknowing i had tonight and tomorrow night off
05:48.32The_BugHeheh.
05:48.40Miyarii don't ever really use that many
05:48.41The_BugLucky. I've got work tomorrow. Or rather, today, I gues x.x;
05:48.45Miyariespecially not now that we're not learning any new content
05:49.33Miyarii carry the dumbest stuff in my bags too
05:49.41Miyaristuff just collects
05:49.50The_BugI used to carry my Will of Arlokk with 20 Spirit on me for good luck.
05:49.56Miyarii finally vendored mine
05:50.01Miyariit was hard
05:50.02The_BugSnakes on a motha f**** Druid!
05:50.12The_BugI have three things I cannot ever bring myself to Vendor.
05:50.16Miyarii need to vendor some stuff out of my bags
05:50.20Miyarii can see it now lol
05:50.23The_BugWill of Arlokk, because it's nifty looking, and was my healing weapon for a long, long time.
05:50.38The_BugLok'Amir, because I was the first Druid on my server to get it for Balance purposes (And one of three before BC hit)
05:50.40MiyariDon't make me regret vendoring mine, now.
05:51.14The_BugMy third is my Wild Growth Spaulders.
05:51.24MiyariI would never wear/take those.
05:51.27MiyariOr cenarion for that matter
05:51.34MiyariI went into BWL with the shoulders from ZG
05:51.47The_BugIronically, the first epic I ever got on Ima, yet the last one I replaced in BC, just because it had so much healing on it for my HT build back in the day, and post-BC, I couldn't find anything until like 66 or 67. Something like taht.
05:52.23The_BugI'm really a geek too. I still have a Friendship bracelet from years ago from one of my old leveling friends.
05:52.42The_BugShe gave it to me when we were like 40 something, and I've still got it in my bank now, even though we've grown apart. Just because it meant a lot to me.
05:52.52Miyarimy invendorable weapons are just my Lok'amir and my Lava Dredger
05:53.09The_BugLava Dredger. I remember Pallies getting pissed that I won that over them, because they wanted it for their DPS sets.
05:53.16Miyarieverything else has eventually been cut and made its way either to that aldor chick or the tauren chick in org
05:53.34MiyariI didn't get my lava dredger until after i had the shadow wing focus staff
05:53.44Miyariat that point it was just a principle thing
05:53.56Miyaricause some kid made some huge point of outbidding me like mad on the only one i ever saw drop
05:54.07Miyarii got some stupid stuff in my bank
05:54.11Miyari3pc cenarion, 8pc stormrage
05:54.19Sky2042looooooooooool
05:54.21Miyarimy pure elementium band
05:54.25Sky2042lrn2nonsetstuff
05:54.28Sky2042XD
05:54.30MiyariTHREE stormrage helms
05:54.32The_BugHehe
05:54.44Miyarione with a zg enchant, one with 20 frost resist and one with 20 shadow resist
05:54.46The_BugOne fire enchant, one Druid 'chant
05:54.50The_BugOooh, Shadow and Frost. Hah.
05:54.51Miyarii never had a fire helm heh
05:54.58Miyarialthough
05:55.02Miyarii still have my cenarion helm
05:55.05MiyariSO ITS NEVER TOO LATE
05:55.06The_BugI remember Vael.
05:55.11The_BugGoing into Vael with like 250 FR
05:55.20The_BugAnd people were like "Dude, that's too much FR. You'll suck at healing"
05:55.29The_BugNeedless to say, I hardly got interupted. So I destroyed the Priests with like 100 FR. XD
05:56.47Miyaristupid resist fights
05:56.56Miyarii still have all of my frost resist
05:57.17The_BugDidn't ever get that far into Naxx, sadly.
05:57.33The_BugGot up to Pachwerk attempts, then BC was coming out soon, so signups dwindled.
05:58.03Miyariso none of my friends will help me run scholo
05:58.05NERGsup guys
05:58.11The_BugHiya.
05:58.12Miyaricause i want a http://www.wowhead.com/?item=14617
05:58.16Miyaricause it looks good with t6
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05:58.37Miyariand they're like "you're dumb miyari"
05:58.45The_BugHehe.
05:58.49The_BugWhy not just go stealth to it?
05:58.52The_BugSrsly.
05:58.52Miyariso misunderstood
05:58.56Miyaricause its THE BUTCHER
05:58.57Miyarihe'd wreck me
05:58.59The_BugFeh.
05:59.02The_BugHe hits hard.
05:59.05The_BugThat's about it.
05:59.12The_BugRegrowth -> Bear -> Hunker down.
05:59.30The_BugHell, I took out Timmy solo the other day in Live Strath.
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05:59.37Bryndoi guys
05:59.44Bryndwhere do i find dig rat stew quest
06:00.13The_Bughttp://www.wowhead.com/?quest=862 <-- Strats from "Grub"
06:00.25The_BugClick his name on the righthand side, and it'll list his position on a world map.
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06:02.45Aereuscan't wait for my guild to get into Black Temple .... that faction ring for rogues is crazy
06:03.20The_BugI just want to see the content.
06:03.23Aereusit would basically be 7% crit 100% of the time
06:03.37Aereus6.5% crit even
06:03.45hotic3I need this ( QAEnchant 2H Weapon +25 Agility ) for my weapon, where i can get it? http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=30229
06:04.10Aereusyeah im sure the zone is neat too
06:04.16AereusBT is like the Naxx of the expansion
06:04.22Aereusfrom what my friend tells me
06:04.29The_Bughttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=22556
06:04.32The_BugTo Hotic3
06:04.45hotic3mm
06:04.49hotic3i see now, thank u
06:04.52The_BugNo problem.
06:05.17Brynddw
06:05.20The_BugYah, two of our guild leaders are expecting another expansion late this year, or possibly the start of next year.
06:05.41*** part/#wowhead Brynd (n=bryndb@ip-58-28-142-42.ubs-dsl.xnet.co.nz)
06:05.46AereusI doubt this year
06:05.47brenyepah<PROTECTED>
06:05.50Aereusprobably 1st half of next year
06:05.54brenyepahthat a decent bm hunter?
06:06.02Aereuswe would have heard something already if one was due out by xmas
06:06.49The_BugI'm expecting some kind of WoW announcement at Blizzcon.
06:06.51Aereusmost raid guilds probably wont finish BT until the end of the year anyways
06:07.02AereusI dont want another Naxx
06:07.08Miyariwe're sitting around waiting for zul'aman =/
06:07.12The_BugWell as it stands
06:07.14Aereuswhere they release an awesome zone and then we dont get to finish it
06:07.28The_BugOnly 8 guilds have 'beaten the game' at the current level.
06:07.30The_Bughttp://www.wowjutsu.com/us/
06:07.33The_BugAt least, in US realms.
06:07.38MiyariTHAT SITE IS SO WEIRD
06:07.49Aereusyeah only the "6 day a week" raid guilds beat Naxx before BC came
06:07.57Miyariit like
06:08.03The_BugNaxx was hilarious.
06:08.05Miyariranks guilds based on gear ppl have equipped in the armory
06:08.09The_BugI remember in the last week before the XPack hit
06:08.16The_BugBoth Heist and Eventide on our server got Kel.
06:08.18hotic3There are a situation: i am 23 lvl paladin, there are murloc rare monster - 19 lvl, and i cant kill it without hp poition, maybe the problem is my talents, where i have to spend my talent points best?
06:08.27Aereusyeah Im on Cenarius as well
06:08.30The_BugAnd they're like "WE BEAT THE GAME" and crap. I just whispered my friend "You beat it for the next week. Then you start again."
06:08.36Aereuswe gave up like 1 month before BC
06:08.40Aereusnobody wanted to do Naxx anymore
06:08.42The_BugReally? Who's your main?
06:08.50AereusArathian Knights, Ayaka
06:09.11Aereuswe killed Vashj last week
06:09.19Aereusshould be at Solarian on Monday
06:09.22The_BugYah, Ovidia told me. "Grats on that!
06:09.29Aereusassuming we dont noob Vashj this week heh
06:09.45The_BugYah, killing a boss is one thing, getting it to farm is another.
06:09.45AereusFang dropped for me \o/
06:09.53The_BugHehe, I see. Very hawt ^.^
06:10.04Aereusand I get to rub it in Flax's face
06:10.09Aereusbc he hates dagger rogues
06:10.21The_BugFlax is a funny Gnome.
06:10.25Aereusand so I'm combat daggers now and top melee
06:10.28The_BugAlthough, I still laugh when I see him.
06:10.37The_BugBecause I keep thinking of the guild "I SEE FLAX BEHIND THE BUSH" or whatever the name was.
06:10.52The_BugAs well as Flax Brand Leetsause.
06:10.53Aereushaha yeah they always accused him of firing from inside the bushes
06:11.03Aereusor behind trees
06:11.07The_BugHehe
06:11.09The_BugIt worked, though!
06:11.12Aereusgo up to a guild druid and shout:
06:11.13The_BugI do that with healing on Ima >.>
06:11.20AereusQUICK! TREE FORM SO FLAX CAN ATTACK!
06:11.24The_BugHaha!
06:11.30The_BugI am sooo going to do that.
06:11.35brenyepahwho thinks kara is to easy? excluding nightbane?
06:11.47Miyarii don't
06:11.52Aereuskara is easy, even nightbane
06:11.55The_BugKara's cake, so long as you have a focus'd group.
06:11.57MiyariITS TERRIBLE
06:11.58Miyari:(
06:12.02AereusBig bad wolf is just gay
06:12.05Aereusbc you cant prevent deaths
06:12.05brenyepahnightbane has been giving us trouble
06:12.12The_BugI'm going to try that on Sixtyfourbit, Aereus. I think he'll get a kick out of it.
06:12.19Miyarii was red riding hooded off straight off the pull
06:12.22The_BugSad part is, he's Feral :(
06:12.23Miyariand everyone was like WAH?
06:12.24Aereus64bit makes me cry
06:12.34Aereushe was getting 5k ferocious bite crits in kara ongith
06:12.35The_BugDon't QQ about Druids. We QQ about you.
06:12.36Aereustonight
06:12.42Aereusim like WTF
06:12.56AereusI cant even get 5k crits with envenom fully buffed and all AP procs up
06:13.02The_BugAs far as Nightbane - What troubles are you having, Brenyepah?
06:13.04Aereusand envenom ignores armor
06:13.15brenyepahtank aggro
06:13.20AereusNightbane is like Nefarian 0.5
06:13.22The_BugFrom the start or on a phase change?
06:13.28brenyepahphase
06:13.32brenyepahhe cant pick it back up
06:13.36Aereusnobody should attack after awhile
06:13.38brenyepahwith a md and no dps
06:13.43The_BugHealing will screw you.
06:13.44Aereusafter you kill skeles everyone get away
06:13.49The_BugNo HoTs in the last 5 seconds before he lands.
06:13.51Aereusand let the tank pick it up and attack for like 10 secs
06:13.59The_BugNightbane has no "Enrage"
06:13.59brenyepahwe were doing 5
06:14.02The_BugSo take as long as you want.
06:14.12The_BugIf it means letting the tank beat the crap out of Nightbane for two minutes
06:14.14The_BugSo be it.
06:14.17The_BugIf your healers can handle it, anyway.
06:14.28Aereushots shouldnt grab aggro
06:14.34Aereusas long as they are cast before he lands
06:14.38Miyarii think my groups have had like a paladin righteous fury healing at the tank spot on landing and bubble
06:14.56The_BugTrick is, Aereus - Since it's contant zonewide aggro, Nightbane 'remembers' who the HoTs are from.
06:15.10AereusI dunno, we had our MT with thunderfury for a long time, now he got some 93dps axe instead with mongoose
06:15.11The_BugTherefore, any HoT I throw will still be known as mine. And being a Druid, that's three potential HoTs.
06:15.40Aereusequip your tank better is all I can say then *shrug*
06:15.42brenyepahso what to do now, while raiding and out of quest, but still need money
06:15.45The_BugHonestly, though, the transitions are the harder part of that fight. Beyond those, it's cake, in my opinion.
06:15.52brenyepah14.5k buffed
06:16.00Aereusthats a bit low
06:16.01The_BugBear, War, or Pally?
06:16.07brenyepahwar
06:16.16The_BugThey've not killed Bane yet, Aer - It'll be low, assuming they've not started SSC / TK
06:16.19Aereusbrenyepah: uhm, farm primals?
06:16.27AereusI farm primal air
06:16.32Aereusnets me around 120g/hr
06:16.33brenyepahboring, maybe tomes/signets
06:16.42Aereustomes and signets are chump money
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06:16.54brenyepahi need 300 for epic flying, plus extra money for raiding
06:16.54Aereusthats like barely 40g/hr
06:16.55The_BugLess competition, though.
06:17.11The_BugI hate the competition on our server. Blows during off hours still.
06:17.26brenyepahso wheres best place to farm priamal aires?
06:17.28Miyaridaily quests!
06:17.32Miyaridaily quests daily quests daily quests
06:17.33brenyepahdo em all
06:17.40AereusI can get like 4 primals an hour even with like 5 ppl farming the area so *shrug*
06:17.42Miyariwithout daily quests i have no idea how i'd raid
06:17.51Miyarii'd be bumming gold from the guild bank
06:17.55brenyepahneed epic flyer to do netherwing dails
06:17.57Aereusyeah rogues are easier for raid mats
06:17.58The_BugI'm running in a gimp farm spec, too.
06:18.05brenyepahneed epic flyer to do netherwing dailus
06:18.05Miyarii dont even do netherwing dailies anymore
06:18.06AereusI just need to bring food and flasks of relentless assault
06:18.14The_Bug27 / 0 / 34 hybrid. Gives me enough DPS to survive, but nothing like that of a raid spec DPS'er.
06:18.14Miyarii do skettis/ogrila
06:18.19Aereusand some health pots, but I dont use em that often ... use the health stones instead usually
06:18.23brenyepahme to
06:18.51Miyarii wish i could get away with that aereus
06:19.13The_BugSo here's a thought for you.
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06:19.22The_BugI realized the other day, out of all the world Illidan kills
06:19.31The_BugI think something like four or five Glaives have dropped.
06:19.34The_BugAll being the mainhand.
06:19.36Miyariwe got one last night
06:19.42Miyarimainhand of course
06:19.54The_BugI'm wondering if the MH has to be present for the OH to drop.
06:20.08Miyariehhhh
06:20.22Miyaristrangest loot request varaible ever if so
06:20.46The_BugYea, that was my first thought.
06:21.03The_BugBut the odds of not seeing an OH drop in over 100+ Illidan kills, yet seeing at least 5 MH confirmed drops...
06:21.06The_Bug...Makes me go "Huh?"
06:21.11Miyarithe encounter would be scripted to detect it
06:21.13Miyariwhich is weird
06:21.16brenyepahwish there was a way to track quest youve done
06:21.48Miyarisurprising drop rate on that MH though
06:22.05The_Bughttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=32235#z0z <-- That's awesome.
06:22.18Miyarii'd hit it
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06:22.38Aereusthe itemization is a bit odd
06:22.46Aereuslike theres no fist drops after Al'ar
06:23.00Aereusand yet those fists are worse than S2 arena
06:23.13godfatherrruhh hey guys just got here
06:23.17godfatherrrwhats goin on?
06:23.19Aereuswe see that
06:23.22Miyarisame sort of itemization as those ridiculous healing helms in BT
06:23.41AereusBT makes up for the shitty raid gear to that point lol
06:23.49Aereushaste rating + ignore armor = yum
06:24.28Miyariyah we have a ret pally and war stacking both current
06:24.30Miyariits hot o_o
06:24.57AereusI dont know how to itemize it in my head though
06:25.10AereusI mean the one ring drop is 126 ignore armor
06:25.14Aereusthat seems almost useless to me
06:25.33Aereuswarpspring coil is 1000 armor ignored which seems respectable
06:25.46The_BugShadowwisp swears by that thing.
06:26.02Weezelthe rogues in the guild im in dont stop crying about wanting that
06:26.04The_Bug'Course, he also pushes nearly 1300 DPS right now on trash, and at least 1100 on bosses o.O
06:26.05AereusI dont think ill ever get a dragonspine trophy unfortunately
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06:26.21The_BugHah.
06:26.27The_BugAt least we're not the only ones with crap drops of that.
06:26.29The_BugWe've yet to see one.
06:26.32Miyarisomeone posted a very involved discussion comparing dragonspine to warpspring on our forum
06:26.39Aereuswell ... we dont do Mag or Gruul anymore
06:26.58Aereuswe might try to do it on an offnight with another raid guild but
06:27.11Aereusthen its random roll and means I'll be going against too many ppl to probably ever win one
06:27.15Miyariwe do mag/gruul to sell loot
06:27.25Aereusso I'd settle for Warpspring/Tsunami Talisman
06:27.27Miyariwhenever we have time
06:27.42AereusTsunami is very good for combat daggers bc I crit so much
06:27.56Aereusalthough with the hidden CD maybe it doesnt matter
06:27.56The_BugDo you still run Kara, just out of Curiosity?
06:28.02Aereuswe do kara fri nights
06:28.05The_BugAhh.
06:28.15Aereusbut we usually dont have enough ppl for 25
06:28.17The_BugOur guild's going to stop doing Kara soon, and I still need my MH from Prince :-/
06:28.26The_BugGoing to look around at other guilds and see who is or isn't doing it.
06:28.29The_BugSee if I can't jump on a run.
06:28.41Aereusdo like everyone else: do arena 1hr a week and collect your unearned T5 weapon ;p
06:28.47The_BugHaha.
06:28.52The_BugYea, I've been saving points.
06:28.55Aereusthat shit's so shady
06:28.57kinkeriixmy guild is changing the kara schedule so we do 1 full clear with alts now, lol
06:29.00Aereuscant believe blizzard did that
06:29.12The_BugHonestly, T5 arena gear for Druids is crazy.
06:29.17The_BugI looked at that vs my full T4
06:29.25Aereusthe thing is -- arena never changes
06:29.26The_BugI've gotta say, the Agear is just plain insane.
06:29.29Aereusand its such little work
06:29.37Aereusand yet they keep upgrading
06:29.48AereusSeason3 will be when? october or something?
06:29.50The_BugBlizzard even said they'd make S3 gear at some point.
06:29.58The_BugAnd it would "Follow the flow of current guild progression."
06:30.04Aereusand give them T6 gear when probably 80% of raid guilds havent even stepped foot in there
06:30.13The_BugSo whenever at least like 100 guilds have killed Illidan, they'll give us free T6, essentially.
06:30.21The_BugMH with like 700 healing or something overdone.
06:30.26Aereusthats bullshit
06:30.29The_BugJust because Blizzard is going to cater to the casuals.
06:30.33Aereusmost guilds arent even complete with SSC
06:30.37Aereusand Season2 came out
06:30.51Aereusmy rogue is worthless in pvp already
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06:30.59Aereuseven with 50% less healing from wound poison
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06:31.07AereusI cant out-dmg someone being healed
06:31.19Miyarimy stupid mace is barely better than the merciless gladiator's free weapon
06:31.26The_BugYou could kill me.
06:31.29The_BugTrust me.
06:31.30The_BugI can only heal so long.
06:31.32The_Bugx.x;
06:31.42Aereuswell I dont mind the armor
06:31.46Aereusits the weapons that I dont like
06:31.53Aereusbc its like 3hrs work for a T5 OH
06:32.05The_BugOut of the top 500 guilds in the US according to Jutsu, only about 425 of them have actually killed Vashj.
06:32.09Aereusand yet raiders put in 100s of hours to MAYBE get a drop
06:32.16The_BugSo yea, I think the S2 gear was put out prematurely.
06:32.33Aereuswhat they need to do is put the weapons on tokens
06:32.36The_BugWhen they announce S3 gear is being made
06:32.36Aereusfor raids
06:32.41The_BugI'm going to whore points.
06:32.49The_BugJust to get a T6 weapon or piece of armor.
06:32.51verahsaHello everyone. I have a couple of questions I hope you guys can answer for me.
06:33.07godfatherrrask away
06:33.12nerfrougesNO I'M NOT GAY AND YES I AM TAKEN.
06:33.14verahsaI've got a 70 'lock that I've played forever, and enjoy it. My server, however, has become vastly overpopulated with them.
06:33.25godfatherrrso move servers
06:33.28verahsaI made a shaman here a few days ago, and am enjoying the daylights out of it
06:33.29brenyepahwhat serv?
06:33.36verahsait makes for a nice change. (I'm on Shadow Council)
06:33.47The_BugWoo! Not Cenarius! No more Allies!
06:33.49Aereusgo enhance, theyre overpowered as hell in pve
06:33.49The_BugOh wait, what now?
06:33.50godfatherrrok
06:34.04verahsaMy questions revolve around talent points, leveling, and the best way to go about getting what's useful
06:34.21godfatherrrelement/enhance for lvling
06:34.21The_BugDo you have money to throw into it?
06:34.28The_BugLike
06:34.30Aereusspend your talent points, get L70, and killing stuff ;)
06:34.33The_Bug1k+ Gold?
06:34.48nerfrougesverahsa
06:34.56The_Bug'Cause if so, go Enh and twink it every level you can.
06:34.58nerfrougeswhat do you expect from your shaman?
06:35.06The_BugGrab a pair of Flurries at 42, and use 'em religiously.
06:35.16verahsaThe_Bug: I -have- that kind of gold (something like 4k atm) but I'm not really sure I see a valid point in dumping 1k gold into the toon for anything at the level I'm at now
06:35.19The_BugThat's probably the 'fastest' way to get to 700.
06:35.28The_Bug70* rather.
06:35.32nerfrougesbecause at 70, if you want to do all the stuff your warlock did, you're gonna have to suck up the fact you're nothing more than a healbitch
06:35.33verahsaNerfrouges: Eventually? I'd -like- to be a healer
06:35.40nerfrougeswell that's great then
06:35.41verahsahehehe I knew that. :)
06:35.56Miyarijust close your eyes
06:35.58The_BugEh, Shaman are more than healers. I'd like to think that they're capable of being excellent DPS buffers.
06:36.03Miyariand make a huge "chain heal" button in the middle of your screen
06:36.03Aereusspending a couple hundred gold along the way really does make it far more enjoyable verahsa
06:36.10brenyepahi love bloodlust
06:36.11Miyariand just slam your mouse with your fist
06:36.13brenyepahas a hunter
06:36.13Aereusyou dont need to max-twink it
06:36.17Miyariand other fist on keyboad
06:36.26Aereusbut at least get some blue weapons and as much cheap blue armor you can
06:36.29The_BugMiyari wins for ease of use.
06:36.32verahsaMiyari... that's amusing but so not what I'm looking to do. :)
06:36.33Aereusand put some enchants on it
06:36.45The_BugCrusader is dirt cheap now if you can self-farm it.
06:36.48nerfrougestheir healing capabilities vastly outweigh the advantages of bringing them for dps
06:36.50verahsaI like doing decent dps (usually 3rd or 2nd in the groups in mid 20's) and still being able to main heal
06:36.55The_BugI mean, just do a duo run with a healer, and you can get 2-4 orbs a run.
06:36.57verahsaI love having the totems help out
06:37.00nerfrougestheir threat management is non-existent, it's sad
06:37.06Aereusnerfrouges: uhm ... have you seen enhance DPS lately?
06:37.15nerfrougesyeah it's great, seen their TPS lately?
06:37.19brenyepahits sick
06:37.25brenyepahrofl true
06:37.27Aereusour enhance shaman puts out like 1000dps
06:37.32Aereuswhile providing all those buffs
06:37.35Aereusits fucking overpowered; (
06:37.36Miyarii was serious :(
06:37.36The_BugTell your tanks to hunker down and L2threat, honestly.
06:37.44Miyarichain healing shamans own our meters / raid healing
06:37.59Aereusyeah beastmaster huntards are OP too
06:38.04The_BugBM is crazy now.
06:38.08Aereustop the meters and they're at range
06:38.12Aereusand they have utility
06:38.13brenyepahmy guild wants me BM to raid
06:38.13Miyarithere's a few fights we don't really think about doing without chain heal lol
06:38.17The_BugPre BC it was terrible. Figures Blizzard gave in and granted them the abilities to be gods.
06:38.18Miyarilike solarian rofl
06:38.18brenyepahalways 1-2 on dps
06:38.20verahsaI guess what I'm really wanting to know is what talents really make a big difference in the low levels (I'm 27 at the moment, and swapping a couple of times I've seen vast differences in what I can and can't do)
06:38.29Aereusrogues have average DPS now and jack squat for utility
06:38.48brenyepahwhat about hunter utility?
06:38.53Aereuswe have 1 enhance 1 elemental shaman
06:38.55The_BugDepends on the tree, Verasha.
06:39.10brenyepahin kara, my traps are resisted/broken quickly almost every time
06:39.12Miyariwe take 2 enhance 1/2 resto
06:39.13nerfrougesrogues have fuck all utility, but their dps is nothing to be squandered at
06:39.14verahsaConsidering my end goal is Resto, but knowing that leveling talents are a different question than end talents...
06:39.29The_BugEnh really needs Clearcast and 100% crit damage to jack itself up more damage. Enh needs either a 2H or DW to bolster itself. Resto is more straightforward with Tide and ES.
06:39.35Aereusnerfrouges: somehow I dont see me sharing the upper DPS meters with hunters, mages, warlocks, and shadow priests as fair
06:39.42Aereuswhen I dont offer ANYTHING else
06:39.48nerfrougesbut their increase in dps is so marginal over say an equal geared 21/40 or affliction warlock it's just not worth mentioning
06:39.49The_BugGo Hemo! /rofl
06:39.57Aereuseither rogues need some utlity, or we need like a 20% DPS boost
06:40.04nerfrougesyeah i feel your same pain
06:40.20Aereusand I dont see blizz giving us 20% DPS bc they have to balance pvp
06:40.31The_BugThe game is PvP balanced. Screw PvE.
06:40.32Aereusreally what blizz needs to do is completely break apart pvp and pve dmg
06:40.45Aereussplit them and balance each separately
06:40.46The_BugThat's blizzard's logic, anyway.
06:40.55Aereuspvp is gay in wow
06:41.02nerfrougesjuggling between combat daggers for pve and mutilate for pvp pissed me off
06:41.05Aereusit gets so stale and predictable so fast
06:41.11The_BugHey now, I liked my XRoads PvP today.
06:41.12nerfrougesespecially since combat daggers is fucking boring and you feel useless
06:41.16Aereuswhen we get to BT im going Mutilate
06:41.26The_BugI got to kill at least 4 undergeared Horde who thought trying to kill a T4 Resto would be easy.
06:41.39The_BugFree kill no more!
06:41.47AereusI still have jack for pvp armor
06:42.00Aereusbut at least with Fang of Vashj/Merciless Glad Shiv I put some hurt on now ;)
06:42.06The_BugTruth.
06:42.17Aereushalf the time I open with double backstab
06:42.18nerfrougesSUP I'M LOCK, PUTTING OUT EQUAL DPS BUT SUPPLYING THE WHOLE RAID WITH HEALTH STONES AND SHADOW DAMAGE BUFFS, MY PARTY WITH A STAMINA BUFF, AND A SOULSTONE
06:42.21nerfrougesWHUT ABOUT YOU ROGUE?
06:42.28Aereusinstead of cheapshot and put them down like 5-6k hps instantly
06:42.42Aereusnerfrouges: I QQ in a corner
06:42.46Aereusand use your healthstones
06:42.49Aereusand demand a soul well
06:42.58Miyarirogues own our meters
06:42.59nerfrougesAereus
06:42.59The_BugZOMG position the imp better n00b.
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06:43.08nerfrougesimo Aereus, mutilate will depress you even more
06:43.15Aereusnah
06:43.19The_BugMutilate is eh, in my opinion.
06:43.20AereusI have great energy/CP discipline
06:43.25nerfrougesit's a boatload of fun and does sick damage, but having to put in 10 times the amount of effort to so equal dps sucks
06:43.34nerfrougesdo*
06:43.36GiZiMWhats up everybody
06:43.39Aereusyeah its more effort, but its more fun
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06:43.41The_BugI mean, it's good for PVP so long as you're not trying to kill me. 9 times out of 10 I have Abolish poison ticking on me as a Druid.
06:43.54AereusCombat SS spam (lolspam) is retarded and I wont do it
06:44.11nerfrougesmutilate cycles are very hard to maintain, but it's like /wrists i have to put all this effort into juggling energy tickers and finisher cycles
06:44.18The_BugHeheh.
06:44.20godfatherrrhehe
06:44.26The_BugI watched my friend go with a Mut spec.
06:44.28nerfrougeswhen you some twat warlock spamming shadowbolt
06:44.28Aereustrue, but im good at it and I feel good about actually having skill
06:44.30The_BugWas fun watching him in BM.
06:44.36The_Bug"Oh crap, I hit my SND too soon!"
06:44.44Aereusrather than the SS retards that just chant 1S/5R that they read on elitistjerks
06:44.51nerfrougeshahahaha
06:45.06Aereusim good at improvising and adapting
06:45.07nerfrougeswell i was combat daggers because my guild sucks and i thought it would help them out
06:45.16zushibaWhat's wrong with Sinister striking? I came in somewhat late.
06:45.22nerfrougesand cycling 3s/5s/5r for 5 hours a ngiht just depressed the fuck out of me
06:45.26Aereuslike for example, I was 300ap and 70hit rating less than the sword rogue in the guild
06:45.32nerfrougesand burned me out for 3 weeks
06:45.49Aereusand yet I was tying him on dmg
06:46.02nerfrougesjust amazes me how people can't push buttons
06:46.17nerfrougessame thing with a vastly superior geared rogue in my guild, awful damage output
06:46.19Aereuswell mutilate doesnt burn me out
06:46.23nerfrougesi don't she's ever played parappa the rapper
06:46.27nerfrougesmutilate didn't burn me out
06:46.29Aereusbc its constantly variable so you dont feel monotonous
06:46.36nerfrougesbut mutilate on hydross and void reaver is like SUP
06:46.43nerfrougesthat was depressing
06:46.53Aereusyeah you just need to equip an SS weapon for those fights
06:47.04nerfrougesor just not raid and reroll a warlock like i did
06:47.15Aereuspersonally I just hate blizz for that
06:47.19Aereuswhy screw rogues that way
06:47.40Aereusthey make up for it with BT/hyjal though
06:47.47nerfrougeswhat's feral dps like these days?
06:47.52Aereusthe gear is tremendously good for Mutilate
06:48.04zushibaRogues aren't the only classes that are screwed like that in some fights.
06:48.15nerfrougesfrost mages are too, and elemental shamans, i know
06:48.28Aereusyeah but im melee
06:48.30The_BugMiyari - You still hiding out there?
06:48.34Aereusyou know there will be spell resists
06:48.47Aereusbut for a melee attack to be indelible is lame
06:48.49Miyariyep
06:48.53nerfrougesrogue is a completely broken class right now
06:48.54Miyarii was looking at some records
06:48.58The_BugAh. Thought you disappeared ^.^
06:49.03nerfrougesi don't see the worth in it at all
06:49.32AereusBlizz has claimed that theyre gonna kinda sorta sometime in the future look at rogues
06:49.42Aereusbut really the problem is they try to balance PVE and PVP at once
06:49.44zushibaya they say that about every class.
06:49.44Aereusand it fails
06:49.46The_BugSadly, I think I'm off for the night. :-/
06:49.50MalgayneSko, are you still awake?
06:49.52The_BugNeed to get sleep. Gotta get up in six hours for work :(
06:49.57AereusI mean, Rogues in Everquest were really fun
06:50.02Aereusbc the game was only balanced for pve
06:50.15Miyarii'm still here hehe
06:50.21Aereusso you had awesome stuff like triple backstab, chaotic stab .... fullspeed running while stealthed etc
06:50.41Miyaribug you should go see how bad i look on meters friend
06:50.43nerfrougesstealth is the limiting factor and always will be
06:50.43Miyarihttp://www.lossendil.com/wws/?guild=fbbo3n4kdpwdu
06:50.53Aereusbut stealth is a non-factor in pve
06:50.55nerfrougesstealth is completely useful but limits the class so much
06:51.00Aereusit has no use at all in raiding
06:51.07Aereusso it cant be used in balance considerations
06:51.20Aereusand in arena as well its so marginally useful
06:51.35Aereushell .... even in general pvp its broken so much nowadays and seen thru
06:51.38The_BugGod, I want your Shaman count. We don't have a single one :-/
06:51.38MalgayneRight
06:51.45Miyarilol
06:51.53Miyarii like our enhancement shamans
06:51.55Miyarithey're funny and die alot
06:52.00Aereuswhat they need to do is completely separate the dmg tables for pvp and pve
06:52.05Miyariour rogues are insane
06:52.08Aereuslike they did with DAOC
06:52.10Miyarithough
06:52.16Aereusyou did 40% less dmg in PVP
06:53.12AereusI guess I should say rogue raid mats are cheap
06:53.16Aereusunless you use haste potions
06:53.32Aereusthen between everything you're looking at around 150g a night lol
06:53.49Aereusso how far are you Miyari
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06:54.04Miyarihum?
06:54.37Miyariwhat's up sorry i was tabbed
06:55.01Miyarihow far are i where? progression?
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06:57.37godfatherrranybody home?
06:57.58DroffatsI am!
06:58.08nerfrougessad that haste pots are even needed to lower the difference between rogues and bm hunters/warlocks
06:58.32kinkeriixif your not up on the meter vs hunters as a rogue... you suck
06:58.51The_BugSee y'all later. I'm out for the night.
06:58.52kinkeriixthats just all there is to it :(
06:58.58Miyarinight night bug
06:59.00nerfrougesnot seen bm hunter recently?
06:59.09nerfrougeswith a scorpion, lolllllll
06:59.33kinkeriixhavnt checked the specs of the hunters in my guild
06:59.47nerfrougesmaybe all your hunters are marks failures that try but fail to keep shot rotations
06:59.57nerfrougesbm is the most overpowered shit ever
07:00.32nerfrougesmakes it worse that our raids usually have 3/4 in a group together
07:00.36kinkeriixare you keeping up with the mages at least?
07:01.37nerfrougesdepends on the fight and group setup but yeah i can be putting out 1k+ usually with flawless cycles
07:02.44nerfrougesjust sucks having to put all that effort in when a bm hunter spams a macro, 1 button
07:03.00nerfrougesit's really fucking dull, but insane damage
07:03.15nerfrougescheck your best hunter's spec
07:03.27Weezelnerfrouges, my hunter is BM specced at 66 for leveling, had a mixed spec before but the output really is quite tasty and easymode for levelling
07:04.40nerfrougeswell at 70, all you need a steady shot/kill command macro, stack attack power and crit, and get a level 70 scorpid pet
07:04.58nerfrougesthen prepare to rock damage meters like your hot step sister
07:05.12kinkeriixit will get nerfed maybe
07:05.20Weezelhttp://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Al'Akir&n=Recoil thats the hunter CL in the guild im in
07:05.24WeezelBM specced i think
07:05.24nerfrougesi said that before the last two patches
07:05.38nerfrougesyeah he is
07:05.53nerfrougeslol at this dragonspine trophy
07:05.54kinkeriixduno... i think i would have seen hunters out dps my mage if bm was that op :/
07:06.01kinkeriixi havnt seen it yet
07:06.13nerfrougesWeezel did your rogues cry or what, are you insane lucky with drop rates?
07:06.41Weezelmost of them have it, those that dont dont really mind that much
07:07.10nerfrougeskink, we once had 4 hunters and a shadow priest in a group
07:07.24kinkeriixwow, lol
07:07.27nerfrouges4 stacks of ferocious inspiration was up nearly constantly
07:08.44nerfrougespriest was hitting his threat ceiling really quickly though
07:09.33Weezelive got a rogue killed before with my Misery debuff on my priest
07:10.00Weezelenvenom > him on that occation
07:10.19nerfrougesstormstrike is sick with vile poisons and misery
07:10.28nerfrougesseeing 5k envenom crits is fap fap fap
07:10.49nerfrougesAereus
07:11.14nerfrougesyou will enjoy juggling find weakness, slice and dice and rupture
07:11.40nerfrougestrue mutilate cycles are impossible, it's so unpredictable but fun as hell
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07:17.09Weezeli was mutilate on my rogue for a while, the damage i got from it was quite nice but still prefere swords
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07:50.38Zoophagoushey any Spriests out there?
07:52.43Gergany prot warriors here?
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08:06.59Woyruuanyone can point out best hunter trinkets?
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08:15.59Bloodspiritany wowhead devs here?
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08:23.21[iGames]Mwarheadyo
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08:26.56Dimeterahello
08:27.28Remigrohi
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08:27.52OneEyeOmg i finally founf the server/chan
08:27.52Dimeterahows it going
08:28.05RemigroGOOD
08:28.07Dimeteraanyone here have more than one Wow account?
08:28.24RemigroI have a few
08:28.37Dimeterayou play them all?
08:28.47RemigroA 70 Warlock on one, 70 Paladin on another, 70 warrior on the third. No I don't play them all.
08:28.55RemigroAlso a 70 Priest that I never use.
08:29.05Dimeteralol wanna hook me up with one
08:29.11RemigroNo.
08:29.20Dimeteradamn it was worth a shot
08:29.42RemigroThe warrior and priest have shit gear anyway.
08:29.59RemigroMaybe unbolded would be better.
08:30.04RemigroYep.
08:30.15Dimeteraya im just trying to get ahold of a 70 account so i can pwr lvl my other toons
08:30.31Remigrogl with that
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08:35.20[iGames]Mwarheadman.... i hate it when you leave a place, to relize you need something from there, after you already left
08:36.14GibbehgheyNo lie, I accidentally left my friends house, then relized I forgot to get hawt secks from his mom
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08:57.48NitefoxGreeetings
08:58.07ExcardHello :-)
08:58.43*** topic/#wowhead by Adys -> Welcome to the official Wowhead channel. Be civil, friendly, and read the channel rules at http://www.wowhead.com/?irc - Enjoy your stay!
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09:04.57RemigroWTB Honor recalc
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09:19.32GibbehgheyAnyone have any experiance with the new Darkmoon card wrath?
09:26.40GibbehgheyNight all. <3
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09:57.31Aereushmm
09:57.59Aereustheres been convincing data on the rogue forums about a fist/OH sword hybrid spec
09:58.16Aereusincreases raid dps by around 5-8%
09:58.38Aereusbc theres generally 5pts of filler in the combat tree to get down to surprise attacks
09:59.00Aereusturning that around a little bit
09:59.15AereusCombat Daggers is very high DPS as well, and you could do the same thing
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10:00.29Aereususe the filler points to get 5/5 Sword spec, and go MH Dagger/OH Sword for some added raid DPS -- sure it wouldnt be as effective as for Fist, but it would be better than Vitality or filler talents like imp kick or stun resist
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10:20.09zushibaAereus, I'm fist/sword spec and I've seen a huge dps increase.
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10:20.55Spartialhello
10:21.00zushibahi
10:21.32Spartialso what can i do in this chat? simply ask questing questions?
10:21.56zushibayou just asked a question, but I suppose you can so shoot.
10:22.28Spartiallol i was just wondering
10:23.00Spartialfor instance, if i run into problems in questing am i better off checking wowhead.com or asking in here?
10:23.34zushibaI would check the site first, it would be faster.
10:23.46Spartialahh indeed cool thanks zush
10:24.11zushibanp
10:24.43zushibaI am so bored I'm attempting to calculate just how much Attack Power Moroes has.
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10:36.48RemigroAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
10:37.01zushibaOkay Moroes has 28,569 AP.
10:37.04Remigroand Moroes has more than you.
10:37.05RemigroSee.
10:37.20RemigroSEE?!
10:37.30zushibawell of course he does.
10:37.35zushibaI just wanted to know how much.
10:37.45Teomyrnerf plx
10:38.11Remigromoroes killed maydie naked
10:38.17Remigroor was that kishkumen
10:38.20Remigrono it was moroes
10:38.31zushibadunno who that is.
10:38.50Teomyrmaybe rogues are not imbalanced at all, and moroes == kishkumen?
10:39.11Remigroquite possibly
10:39.16Teomyrwho knows
10:39.52Remigrovideo store keeps calling me up
10:40.00Remigrodemanding that i return my copy of onyxia gone wild
10:40.33Remigrotruth is i let nef borrow it and he never returned it :U
10:40.50zushibathat's sick that's his sister.
10:41.06Remigroi know right
10:41.14zushibakinda hot now that I think about it.
10:41.24Remigrothe only reason so many people want you to kill nef is so they can have that tape
10:41.43Teomyrbut he doesn't drop it
10:41.55Teomyrhe must have hid it somewhere
10:43.04Teomyror maybe deathwing found out about it
10:43.11Remigrohe must have the tape
10:43.14Remigrothat's fucking wrong
10:43.21RemigroWRONG I SAY!
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10:50.43DisispartaHey
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10:51.02DisispartaDoes anyone know about  a custom profile website ?
10:51.12DisispartaI miss CT :(
10:51.58zushibameh I haven't updated rogueequip in hundreds of years.
10:52.01zushibainternet time...
10:52.59DisispartaI was told a while ago that wowhead was working on a custom profile type section to their website and that it would be ready at the beginning of july
10:53.15DisispartaBut it didn't happen and I don't know if it's still in the works
10:55.09zushibai heard they were workin on something but no timeframe was mentioned
10:57.16Pandemic-vHellI do all mine by hand now Disisparta :(
10:57.22Pandemic-vHellsince cide isn't working on ctprofiles anymore
10:57.37Pandemic-vHellhttp://www.whataboutpp.com/users/vhell/s2stats.html
10:57.43Pandemic-vHellso ugly compared to ctprofiles
10:59.30zushibahttp://www.hitpoints.org/equip  -I haven't added any new stuff, only supports lvl 60 rogues :P
10:59.38zushibaIt's just too much work for 1 guy tho.
11:00.30DisispartaYeah, I tried to do something for myself but yeah it's no CTProfile
11:01.20DisispartaI wonder what's up with the warglaive of azzinoth offhand
11:04.54zushibalol http://www.digitalbattle.com/2007/07/25/senator-plays-wow-has-lvl-70-priest/
11:05.49zushibahaha http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Silver+Hand&n=Paleray
11:05.53zushibahe is pretty serious.
11:09.55fieserlumpindeed
11:14.49Jasanybody who levels a priest to 70 gets my respect, to be honest
11:15.18Jasdouble points if they elvelled as holy, like I did on my priest >.>
11:18.16zushibawell I'm going to sleep.
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11:23.00aLe`hi all :p
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11:40.42asdasdasdaHello
11:40.56Karaiherro ^^
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12:14.41Infinity-Xmorning all :)
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12:17.15Zeratullmorning
12:17.21Mezmormornin'
12:18.39Remigrowhoa
12:18.44Remigrozushabi, you there?
12:18.55Remigrozushiba, even.
12:21.16GiZiMWho wants to rub my nipples?
12:21.27Mezmor<--
12:21.41BiPedOuTM3i like mages that skin and leatherwork
12:22.00GiZiMI like mages that make me bread and water
12:22.38BiPedOuTM3dc o no
12:23.03Mezmor??:P
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12:27.26BiPedOuTM3when does the new wow come out
12:28.56BiPedOuTM3i need to get to the gym man
12:28.59BiPedOuTM3wat way is that
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13:19.01Inc`Morning folks
13:19.20Karai:D herro
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13:22.14KosmosHello!)
13:22.37KosmosOo, Channel serv %)
13:22.38Inc`Hey :D
13:22.55KaraiI hate questing so damn much -.-;
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13:26.16Dimeterahello
13:29.25ChloeYo.
13:29.37Dimeterahow arey ou
13:29.42Dimeteraare you
13:29.53Chloehehe okay for this time of morning lol
13:31.01JasYay for having a wowhead irc channel ;D
13:31.34JasThe new topic of discussion is Rogues & the Mechanar.
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13:31.36Jas/discuss
13:31.50GiZiMThey need to DPS
13:32.02GiZiMNew topic warlocks are they over powered?
13:32.09GiZiM<PROTECTED>
13:32.12JasWhat's the point of DPS if you're solo?
13:32.17ChloeNo, they need more BPS (Band-aids Per Second)
13:32.24GiZiMI agree
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13:32.45GiZiMIm about to respec my lock back Afflic for farming for tailoring
13:32.49GiZiM*sigh*
13:33.24sthwhat's the point of a discussion if you are gonna bend over and agree as easy like that
13:33.32GiZiMI like to bend over
13:33.34GiZiMGet off me
13:33.35sth;p
13:33.39JasI think they missed the point of the discussion
13:33.40GiZiMlol
13:33.42Jaslet me rephrase
13:33.48Jas1) Be a Rogue.
13:33.51Jas2) Enter Mechanar
13:33.53Jas3) ???
13:33.56Jas4) Profit.
13:34.04sth3) picklock the crap out of the place
13:34.10sthit's great
13:34.10Jas;D
13:34.18Chloewow... lol
13:34.20Jasactually it's the locked chests that give me the most grief
13:34.24Inc`Oooookay...
13:34.29GiZiMI think Blizzard should go ahead and give everybody in WoW a 70 rogue
13:34.30JasI don't have dark leather gloves, my failure streaks are legendary
13:34.32GiZiMJust for farming
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13:35.01Mezmorfuk rog
13:35.09Jasdo the gloves even make that much of a differance for those chests though?
13:35.18JasI wouldn't have thought +5 skill would be that important
13:35.29Komodoyou know whats awesome for picklocking/pickpocketing
13:35.30BiPedOuTM3what is the best charter in wow
13:35.32Komodoshadowstep
13:35.32Komodo:P
13:35.35Mezmor+5 skill is just 0.05% extra crit init.
13:35.49Mezmor(or are you talking about something else)
13:36.07JasI'm talking lockpicking
13:36.12Mezmoroh
13:36.15Mezmor:DD
13:37.00JasAre there any +lockpicking items/enchants other than the dark leather gloves? I tried looking on wowhead but no joy
13:37.18GiZiMOn the ally side what do you think the BEST rogue would be?
13:37.33Inc`They are all good
13:37.39Jasdepends on what you want to do
13:37.47Jasdwarf and gnome are good fpr pvp
13:37.54Dimeteraanyone have a wow account they arent using?
13:37.59JasHumans are great for pve
13:38.16Jasactually come to think of it
13:38.22Jasall 4 races are great for pvp in some way
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13:38.36Jasperception, escape artist, stoneskin, shadowneld
13:38.39Jasoh, he left
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13:39.01GiZiMdamn linux
13:39.21BiPedOuTM3.
13:39.36GiZiMor damn BitchX
13:39.38BiPedOuTM3thoes sun microsystems
13:39.50GiZiMdamn Java
13:39.54Inc`lol you're running bitchx?
13:40.03Inc`I didn't know that was still around
13:40.04GiZiMim ssh'd into my box at home im at work right now
13:40.08BiPedOuTM3is there really a os called bitchx..?
13:40.10GiZiMlol yeah its still around
13:40.12GiZiMno
13:40.27GiZiMBitchX is a irc client for linux mainly used when you are remoted into your system (like i am)
13:40.42BiPedOuTM3remoted.?
13:40.57BiPedOuTM3u mea like the i phone..?
13:41.11GiZiMyeah my box at home is running linux im at work i use a program called ssh to connect to my system at home
13:41.24BiPedOuTM3oh ok
13:41.33GiZiMits all text based so i used BitchX which is all text based
13:41.47GiZiMI run wow thru wine at home
13:42.06BiPedOuTM3what does that mean..?
13:42.23BiPedOuTM3why can u not run it normaly..?
13:43.02GiZiMWell wow isnt made to run thru Linux natively but there is a problem for linux called WINE that emulates the Windows API and allows Linux uses to run windows programs in Linux.
13:43.13GiZiMI cant run it normally because i dont run Windows
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13:43.37GiZiMproblem = program sorry im tired
13:44.03BiPedOuTM3i would never use linux
13:44.08GiZiMWhy not?
13:44.16BiPedOuTM3imoral
13:44.24GiZiMuh huh
13:44.34GiZiMHow so?
13:44.36BiPedOuTM3besides im a big fan of apple ne ways
13:44.44GiZiMAh apple fanboy
13:44.47GiZiMi see
13:45.00Jas"hello types and girls. something is wrong with warlock. they have HP 2 and mólto healthstone in order to recover the car. you can satisfy the difficulty? I cannot strike the warlocks because they have a health cargo and cannot break off it through the wall of pants. thanks"
13:45.06Jas^Best warlock post since kralnor
13:45.09GiZiMSo you would rather pay hundreds of dollars for your OS when i can pay zero and
13:45.24GiZiMJas lol
13:57.00Teomyr"wall of pants"?
13:57.12Karaimac OS X is as expensive as windows :P
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13:59.43Karaion apple.com, mac os x is $129.00 for a single user copy
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14:02.15KaraiOn microsoft.com, windows vista home basic is $99.95 for the download, or $139.99 to be shipped on a disc.
14:02.46KaraiSo, looks liek windows is actually cheaper for the average user, or for people who like original discs, only a few bucks more.
14:02.53Karaicase closed, you fail, buy a pc :P
14:03.47Karaiand linux is 100% free
14:03.48Karaiso
14:03.50Karaieat it
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14:10.31pLaY23ciao
14:11.20BiPedOuTM3i got vista for free
14:11.38BiPedOuTM3windows vista beta
14:12.05Mezmorvista is shit anyway
14:12.12Mezmoreven if you got it for free, uninstall and install xp
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14:16.17BiPedOuTM3why is xp better..?
14:16.56BiPedOuTM3i have a pc on ebay
14:17.35BiPedOuTM3on dowload hair force one
14:17.43BiPedOuTM3or download hair force one
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14:21.54Karaii was just using the latest of each platform
14:22.15Karaixp is better of course, but viseo is the expensive one right now, and as cheap as mac os x, which is not free
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14:22.49Karai[10:45] <GiZiM> So you would rather pay hundreds of dollars for your OS when i can pay zero  <-- not true statement, do research before spewing plix
14:23.43Rawseek
14:23.57KeshicusOk excuse me while I butt in, but Mac is good for doing imovie and crap because thats all its good for. Nothing else. Second Linux is open source, used for working and taking advantage of others while windows is used to screw around.
14:24.07KeshicusIt doesn't matter how much money you put in to it, computers suck.
14:24.09TeomyrOS FLAMEWAR
14:24.14Keshicusok bye bye
14:24.20Rawsoh no, did I fall into an OS war?
14:24.47KaraiKesh knows his stuff :P
14:24.52Rawsclearly
14:24.59RawsI like his ideas and wish to subscribe to his newsletter
14:25.21Karaimax = media design; linux = professional business/server usage; windows = home user shizzle
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14:26.38RawsIMO, they're all equally capable platforms, it's just that the genres of software developed for each are severely unbalanced :P
14:26.54Karaiwell, each has their own specialties.
14:27.03RawsI s'pose
14:27.20BiPedOuTM3wich is best for movie-media production..?
14:27.23Karailinux is afaik the most secure platform around, so using it as a server is better then ay something you could hack into while banging your penor on the keyboard
14:27.33Rawsanyway, OS arguments are so 1999, let's talk about something else so I decide to idle in this channel
14:27.47KaraiMacs are what the industry use for media production
14:28.09BiPedOuTM3wat industry is that..?
14:28.20RawsI am a professional video editor and motion graphics designer, and I use a Mac all day
14:28.35Rawsthis Mac, in fact: http://ross.fappett.com/photos/kpc_setup_3020.jpg
14:28.54Karaiindustry = hollywood
14:29.11Karaiobviously i ment the media industry :P
14:29.47Rawswell, the big Hollywood studios don't use Final Cut to edit video or anything
14:29.57Rawsthey're still using actual film
14:30.19RawsNLEs are most popular in the news industries, independent studios, and smaller firms like the one I work at
14:30.22BiPedOuTM3wat application runs intenet for macs.?
14:30.33Karaianythign dome with computers, or cg movies liek shrek or transformers, are usually always done on macs
14:30.44RawsBiPedOuTM3: Safari, FF, Camino, Omni, etc.
14:30.54Karaiwait
14:30.59Karaiwas that a real question?
14:31.08RawsI hope so
14:31.12KaraiI don;t mean to be rude, but, do you knwo where the power button on your computer is?
14:31.42BiPedOuTM3i only power off for safety
14:32.04KaraiThe way you worded your question was... Interesting :P
14:32.16Rawsomg, Viper007Bond is in here
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14:40.55AtreyHi
14:41.06Chloeyo
14:41.25AtreyIs this the WowHead IRC channel? I've never used IRC, so im giving it a shot :)
14:41.52Teomyryes, it is ;)
14:41.57sealiahyou made it!
14:41.59AtreyCool :D
14:42.08sealiahwooo
14:43.14AtreySo, I played a Tauren Druid quite a while ago, and was a top raider. (mostly Teir2) but that was before AQ and Naxx ect was about...And i sold my account, I then started a mage...and have been playing that sicne now. He is obviously lvl 70, and i raided alot at lvl 60.
14:43.31AtreyI quit recently because i grew sick of playing a gnome mage...and since BC i felt as tho i had run him into the ground.
14:43.52AtreyI am considering re-rolling- either a new mage, or a new character all together
14:43.58sealiahwarlock!
14:44.10Karaipaladin!
14:44.18sealiahI tried levelling paladin lately
14:44.23sealiahalmost died from boredom at lvl 27
14:44.24AtreyFrom your experiences can anyone recomend a fun class to play, that i could possibly pick up and gear up to be my new hardcore raider?
14:44.27sealiahsame as hunter =/
14:44.29Karai<-- 63 prot pally
14:44.44AtreyAh..paladin not for me =/ I had a paladin, got him to 16 and deleted him cos there wasnt enough action =/
14:44.46Karai<-- had a 70 prot pally
14:44.49sealiah<- 70 shadow priest
14:44.54Karaihmm
14:45.01KaraiI personally really enjoyed playing a shaman
14:45.02AtreyI am considering a Priest to be honest
14:45.10sealiahI recommend warlock. If i started playing from scratch now, I'd take lock
14:45.16Karaiit was a bit boring until 30, when i got windfury :P
14:45.41sealiahalthough, warlock is bit boring since everything is so easy
14:46.11AtreyOkay..I have another delema. Which you guys/gals probly cant help me with considering it is my personal choice...but i'll bring this to the chat too, to stir things up a bit
14:46.25AtreyIm drawn between 2 servers. 1, alliance...and 1 horde
14:46.39AtreyNow my druid was horde (obviously) and my mage is alilane
14:46.41Atreyalliance*
14:47.00AtreyIf i roll horde, it wil be on Nagrand. If not it will be Dath'remar, with my mage.
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14:47.28AtreyBut i have many friends on Dath'remar, and a 70 already ect ect...and im not sure if i would be bother to level another character with my mage staring at me all the time =/
14:47.36Atreybothered*
14:48.49AtreyOh! I have a warlock question :)
14:49.01AtreyWould it be worth getting a warlock frozen shadowweave gear?
14:49.53BiPedOuTM3i have no idea
14:50.09AtreySealiah?
14:51.08BiPedOuTM3apple needs to offer better spec on there systems fix solid numbers to hardware
14:51.46Karaiapple needs to l2p
14:52.26BiPedOuTM3stop talking about the dam dentist
14:52.40Karai:P
14:52.41BiPedOuTM3offer more configuration options
14:53.33BiPedOuTM3i wouldnt know what to buy next another thinkpad or a mac
14:54.18BiPedOuTM3besides 4200rpm is to slow for any hard drive
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14:55.44GiZiMAtrey Depends on what spec you are
14:55.52AtreyOh really?
14:56.09AtreyBecause i know as a mage, if your frost / arcane, you get shadowweave...if not spellfire...
14:56.15Atreyi mean..well..you know what i mean
14:56.36GiZiMIf you are more Destro you are more fire so Shadoweave wouold not help
14:56.42GiZiMBUt if you are Demo or Afflic it would be fine
14:57.04BiPedOuTM3i am destruction lock
14:57.23GiZiMThen you are more fire than Shadow in most cases
14:57.51BiPedOuTM3having all dots being shadow damage its mostly equivelent
14:58.05BiPedOuTM3fire=shadow
14:58.29Atreyhmm
14:58.32GiZiMmmm
14:58.33GiZiMwhat
14:58.36GiZiMfire = shadow?
14:58.42Atreyso demon/ afflic  = frozen shadow?
14:58.46GiZiMRight
14:58.52GiZiMBecause its more Shadow Dmg
14:59.22GiZiMWith a Destro lock you get conflag and 10% more fire dmg and other fire things
14:59.28GiZiMSo you are more of a fire lock
14:59.40BiPedOuTM3correct
15:00.06GiZiMIm Destro right now and i cast shadow bolt about once and that is a opener and when i crit its about 3500+
15:00.16GiZiMMy fire spells do close to the same
15:00.32BiPedOuTM3im not gonna tell you how im specked but as destuction its mostly equivent fire and shadow damage dpendsing on what you decide to cast wether it be incinerate or shadow bolts
15:01.16AtreySo would you say as a demo lock its a good asset?
15:01.22GiZiMYes
15:01.57AtreyHmm
15:02.03GiZiMAs Demo you still use your DOTs to do dmg while you nuke and your felguard beats the crap out of your target
15:02.05BiPedOuTM3demo locks suck at casting
15:02.13AtreyAnd obviously if i were to play a priest...primal mooncloth is a good asset?
15:02.14GiZiMHow so?
15:02.25GiZiMAtrey if you went Holy
15:02.48GiZiMHow do Demo locks suck at casting?
15:03.01BiPedOuTM3compared to afflic or desturction they suck at casting
15:03.11GiZiM... how ?
15:03.30BiPedOuTM3demo offers you more hitpts and links you to a felguard
15:03.47BiPedOuTM3demo isnt specked to cast as well as afflic of destruction
15:04.06GiZiMDepends on the spec
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15:04.58Atreyhmm
15:05.06Atreybut..im guessing demo isnt for 5man / raiding?
15:05.20GiZiMCan be
15:05.27GiZiMI used to do it and i came out 1/5 dps
15:05.34GiZiMi used a imp sometimes a felguard
15:06.06BiPedOuTM3i play destuction with crapy gear i usually struggle to make 25 percent dps dmage to hold up my place
15:06.21GiZiMhttp://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/warlock/talents.html?0500000000000000000002050030133250102531351505000010000000000000
15:06.25BiPedOuTM3usualy 2nd or 3rd
15:06.32GiZiMI use that build when im Demo
15:07.08GiZiMthe points in Destro allow me for faster cast time and still have imp shadow bolt for the %20 dmg
15:07.59GiZiMThe points alone in Destro is what keeps me at the top of the charts
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15:09.30BiPedOuTM3my lock only has plus 500 spell damage tho with wizard oil
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15:10.04BiPedOuTM3i like to fight the under privlaged lvl 60s
15:10.33GiZiMIm Destro and i have 770 something
15:11.35wyciorrGiZiM: maybe you should link to your talent build on wowhead ;)
15:12.38GiZiMSure one sec
15:13.47GiZiMhttp://www.wowhead.com/?talent=AV0bZbxZxx0tr0tAuAo
15:17.13Beefcakeshey guys just one quick question, how much dodge rating to get 1% dodge and how much agi to get 1% dodge?   (lvl70 warrior)
15:17.25GiZiM100 wasnt it?
15:17.29GiZiMi might be wrong
15:17.30Beefcakes0_o
15:17.39GiZiMno uhhh warrior ah
15:17.44GiZiMuhh shit if i know
15:18.11Beefcakesthx anyway man... i'll find out sooner or later :)
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15:18.36GiZiMyeah sorry im working over time at work im checked out
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15:19.51Beefcakesoh noes!!!  im about to do slabs :D
15:20.15trnqltynvm it's caturday
15:22.01AtreyHmm i think i might have a lock for a farmer insted :D
15:22.12AtreyI prefer mage/ priest for mains
15:25.05BiPedOuTM3do u think wow will stay big for some time..?
15:25.30trnqltythat's for sure
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15:25.35AtreyI dont actually..
15:25.35ChloeHey Beefcakes, 18.9 Dodge rating to get 1% at 70
15:25.40BiPedOuTM3i plan to make 4 new charcters including a new warlock
15:25.46AtreyI was considering that ey
15:25.59AtreyI was going to make a- Mage, Priest, Rogue, Warrior and a lock
15:26.04Beefcakesthanks chloe!
15:26.37Chloeand you need 30 sgi to equal that
15:26.41Chloe*agi
15:26.52Chloewowwiki ftw
15:27.23Beefcakesthanks again :D
15:27.29Chloenp :P
15:27.38Mezmor(Chloe) wowwiki ftw
15:27.40MezmorBLASPHEMER
15:27.49Beefcakesyou know about how much agi i need for 1% crit? >.<    soz im nub
15:27.56Mezmor~30
15:28.02Mezmoriirc
15:28.04Chloe33
15:28.17Mezmor:D!
15:28.27Mezmorisn't it 29 or something
15:28.39Atreyamagad
15:28.49Atreythats like...30% crit = 900 rating!??!
15:28.54Mezmor??:P
15:29.00Mezmorit's class dependant
15:29.09AtreyFor you.
15:29.09Atreyhaha
15:29.11BiPedOuTM3how can it be class dependsant..?
15:29.18MezmorD:
15:29.20trnqltyno it's not
15:29.37Mezmorwasn't it differnet for hunters or somit
15:29.40trnqltynope
15:29.50Mezmor...
15:29.53BiPedOuTM3somit is my fav
15:30.07Mezmornow i'll actually have to look ;_;
15:30.28Atreyokay..umm
15:30.32AtreyMage, Priest or Lock?
15:30.43BiPedOuTM3Shammy
15:30.49AtreyRogue or Druid? Shaman or Hunter? Warrior or Paladin?
15:30.55AtreyNO! stick within the trival guidlines!
15:30.56Atreyhaha
15:30.58MezmorRogues require 29 AGI for an additional 1% critical strike chance, and Hunters require 59 AGI for an additional 1% critical strike chance,
15:30.59Mezmor??:P
15:31.06Chloelol
15:31.26Mezmoroh wait that's pre-bc.
15:31.41Inc`My goal in WoW is now to get the finishing blow on a warrior. With melee. And i'm a priest.
15:31.53Atreylol
15:31.57Mezmoro/
15:31.58AtreySmite smite miste
15:32.12Chloeit's 40 agi at level 70 for hunters
15:32.18Inc`Player hits you for 4 (glancing). You die.
15:32.21Atreylol...does anyone remeber when shadow priests were wanna be locks? gah =/ now it is locks who are wanna be shadowpriests =/
15:32.36ChloeFormulas:Agility
15:32.51MezmorChloe ye
15:32.56Mezmorit is class dependant, for some classes ;x
15:33.03Chloe><
15:33.22Mezmor:-)
15:33.34Mezmor(BiPedOuTM3) how can it be class dependsant..?
15:33.36MezmorD:
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15:40.53Mezmor*silence*
15:41.03Karai<PROTECTED>
15:41.15Mezmoro.o
15:41.20KaraiO SHI-
15:41.28Mezmor1/0
15:41.32KaraiNOOOOOOOOOOOO
15:41.48Chloemoo?
15:41.56Mezmorhaha
15:41.58Mezmortypo ??:P
15:42.18KaraiLO
15:42.28MezmorL
15:42.34Karaiam I the only person aliv who knows about DJ SHARPNEL
15:42.41KaraiD;
15:42.42Mezmorno
15:42.54Karaianyone I talk to is like "lol wut?"
15:43.04Karai   NP    : jea - Evangelion Generation [03:03/06:21] [-----|-----]
15:43.26KaraiYou sir, are my new best friend.
15:43.32Mezmor8D !
15:43.43KaraiWhat server you play on?
15:43.51MezmorRunetotem EU
15:43.56Karai:(
15:43.56Mezmorand stormscale
15:44.01Mezmor\o>
15:44.02Mezmor<o/
15:44.03Mezmor\o/
15:44.04Mezmor/o\
15:44.05Mezmorrepeat
15:44.08Karai:P
15:44.19Mezmorand you?
15:44.26Chloe¯\(º_o)/¯
15:44.27KaraiTichondrius US
15:44.35Mezmor!
15:44.40Mezmordo you know kzn?
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15:44.44MezmorChloepal :D!
15:44.47Mezmoroh it's palcakes
15:44.53Pancakeshi palmor o/
15:44.53KaraiI've been on this server for about 2 days :P
15:44.58Mezmoroh
15:44.59Mezmor8|
15:45.06Mezmordo you know that agi is class dependant D:?
15:45.14KaraiO SHI-
15:45.19Mezmordivision by class
15:45.22Mezmor1/rogue
15:45.23Karai:P
15:45.25Mezmor???????????????????????
15:45.28Karaiprofit :P
15:45.33Mezmorfuck yeah \o>
15:45.43Karai:3
15:45.55Mezmoryou resistance only makes me
15:45.56Mezmormy*
15:46.00KaraiPENIS HARDER
15:46.11MezmorITT: meme hangman
15:46.15Karai:D
15:46.21Karaii want your babies
15:46.23Karaion my favce
15:46.25Karai-v
15:46.28Mezmor_ _     _ _ _ -
15:46.42KaraiAN HERO
15:46.45Mezmorhaha
15:46.47AtreyWhat are shaman like to play?
15:46.50Mezmori was thinking oh shi- but it works
15:46.53Karaishaman are orgasmic
15:46.57Karai:P
15:46.58Mezmorlol.
15:47.06KaraiDo what I do
15:47.16KaraiRoll a class for out dated mismatched gear that looks cool
15:47.21Karaiie
15:47.25Atreylol...
15:47.31Atreynah im serious about re-rolling tho :P
15:47.36Karaitroll shaman for the tribal shouler thingies and some funny tribalish looking cloths
15:48.20AtreyLike..cos i've always thought they were like...the underdogs..cant heal too excellently...and their DPS CAN be awesome..but it it was my toon it probly wouldnt.
15:48.21Karaihuman warrior/paladin - level to 60 - get 4/4 stormshroud and the boots of avoidance
15:48.36Karaithe thing with 'hybrid' classes is
15:48.41AtreyDo that on dath'remar and buy my god damn boots of avoidance
15:48.43Karaithey can do the rolls pure classes do
15:48.49Karaibut they need to work harder to do them
15:48.57Atreylol yeah, i played a druid for ages
15:49.20Atreybut difference is..aside from rez, druids are best healers...boomkin is gaykin...and feral tanking is hawt!
15:49.25Karaia druid can out perform a rogue in dps, but the need more than just a sexy weapon, they need a full set of gear
15:49.32Mezmorrogue ftw ;<?
15:49.44AtreyI was also considering a dwarf rogue to be honest
15:49.49KaraiLOL
15:49.50Karaifail
15:49.54Atrey? why?
15:49.57Mezmor'ey
15:49.59Karaidwarf = fag
15:50.01Mezmormy first rogue was a dwarf rogue
15:50.02Mezmor>:¢
15:50.02Karail2rp
15:50.04Mezmor>:|
15:50.09Mezmorwell
15:50.10Mezmorif you follow lore
15:50.14Mezmordwarves are drunken miners
15:50.21Mezmorso....?
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15:50.49Karaistep 1: pick a class; step 2: wowwiki for famous people of that class; step 3: roll that race; step 4: ?????; step 5: profit
15:51.00Atreylol..
15:51.02Karaidrunken miner = paladin DUH
15:51.09MezmorD:
15:51.11Mezmorud rogue go
15:51.11Karaiimo
15:51.13Atreynah but..
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15:51.16Karaihumans are the only real paladins
15:51.21Atreyhuman rogues are cool...but too many of them
15:51.24Mezmor:|
15:51.28Mezmorloliance :|
15:51.32Atreynight elf rogues are sooo old. -.-
15:51.35Karaihuman rogues or undead rogues
15:51.42AtreyLike...i was going to start completely again on horde
15:51.47Karaiundead rogue
15:51.49Atreybut my friend made me think about it =/
15:51.53Karaijoin the forces of the forsaken
15:52.02Atreyi was going to get a blood elf rogue :P but yeah undead is second choice
15:52.08AtreyI have an undead mage
15:52.08Karaialso
15:52.09GiZiMNo lets all be Blood Elf and be gay together
15:52.16GiZiMLets go shopping
15:52.20Atreyyeah..well i thought it would be funny to have a gay elf :P
15:52.21KaraiWotF = win of the forsaken
15:52.33Atreybut also co si was going to have an undead mage AND priest..a rogue might be taking it too far
15:52.46AtreyEspecially cos they're all girls
15:52.53Karaiundead should be paladins :P
15:53.18Atreylol yeah priest is a bit messed up according to lore...
15:53.23Karaitainted by the scourge, and defected to the horde, regaining their holy powers (ie used to be death knights?)
15:53.34Atreyoh sweet
15:53.36Atreyaha
15:53.39Atreygah!
15:53.41Karaiamirite?
15:53.55AtreyKarai your not helping! we're supposed to be helping atrey find a new roll to play! not sidtracking him!
15:54.02Karai:<
15:54.04Karaiwell
15:54.09Karaii'm helping him choose properly
15:54.16AtreyNo! No your not!
15:54.20Beefcakesi hear tauren rogues are rather fun
15:54.28AtreyNO!
15:54.39Beefcakesoh... k
15:55.06AtreyKarai...help!
15:55.15Karaignome rogue, because they are tiny and stelathy; undead rogue: join the ranks of the forsaken assassins; human rogue: join Stormwind Intelligence : 7 and help defeat the defias once and for all! (then delete at about level 20 and reroll gnome)
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15:55.51JasAny deep combat rogues around?
15:55.56Beefcakesgnome rogues... you cant click them in battlegrounds!!!
15:56.16JasBeefcakes: tab is your friend
15:56.26KaraiI like hwo the Defias are considered a main threat to Stormwind..... they ar elike.. levels 5 -> 20, the 2 guards standing in front of sw coudl easily rape every single solier vancleef coudl throw at them... at once
15:56.37Atreyno no i mean is rogues good? :P
15:56.42Beefcakesyeah but tabbing is like cheating!
15:56.42Karaii was a combat rogue at 60
15:56.51AtreyI mean like...class not race
15:56.55Atreyrace i can decide my self :)
15:56.56Mezmor(Jas) Any deep combat rogues around?
15:56.57Mezmor<--
15:57.01Jasgroovy
15:57.12JasI just specced 15/41/5 from 41/20/0 and I have a couple of questions
15:57.13Mezmorthanks
15:57.14Mezmoroh
15:57.19Mezmoraye
15:57.24Jassince I'm having trouble adapting to the new build and my dps is shocking
15:57.29Karaix/ /  != combat
15:57.30Jasas in shockingly bad :/
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15:57.36Karaix / / = assassination
15:57.38Karail2p
15:57.41JasI was wondering if Shiv can proc combat potency
15:57.45JasKarai: yeah, that's what I'm trying to do
15:57.51Karaiorly
15:57.54Mezmorit can.
15:58.09Jasokay great, thanks.
15:58.10Mezmormutilate is awesome dps depending on group
15:58.11Jasnext question
15:58.19Jaswhat's your ideal ability rotation?
15:58.23KaraiRAGNAR-O'S! BY FIBE BE PURGED!
15:58.30KaraiFIBRE*
15:58.43Mezmori don't pve a lot, but i'd just go for snd + rupture (if mangle)
15:59.01Jashrm
15:59.13Mezmorand depending on the boss also
15:59.15Jaswell one of our tanks is bare in a fite, so that's good to know
15:59.27Jaswell right now mangle's moot since we're working on voidreaver
15:59.35Jashence the respec, to be frank
15:59.39Mezmorthen evis for cp dumping
15:59.41Beefcakesbyebye... group wants me to concentrate on slab :(
15:59.49Mezmorbye <o/
15:59.52Jasas muti I was #1-3 on dps in all raids, now I'm down to 12th :/ I really want to get my l2p on
16:00.07Mezmoron the same boss?
16:00.20Jasyeah, my only benchmark so far has been gruul
16:00.24Mezmorah
16:00.38Jasnormally I'd be #1 on G unless our furry warrior had a pet shaman
16:00.46Mezmorfurry warrior is furry
16:00.47Mezmor*pet*
16:00.49JasHehe
16:01.13JasI have nothing but respect for that guy though, his dps is, to coin a phrase, 'teh phat'
16:01.15Jasbut anyway
16:01.20Pancakesspec combat swords, ???, profit!
16:01.26JasPancakes: I plan to
16:01.30Pancakesk good :D
16:01.32Jasworking for my merc glad swords at the moment
16:01.44Jasmy swords at the moment are edge of the cosmos and latro's so I don't intend to respec just yet
16:01.47Pancakesnot sure what rotation is best with muti or combat daggers though
16:01.48Pancakesheh
16:01.53Mezmorur shit Pancakes
16:01.56Pancakesdl the rogue spreadsheet and enter your stuff
16:01.56Mezmorwait
16:01.59Jasthe rotation for muti and combat are totally differant
16:02.02Pancakesshould give you best rotation
16:02.05Jassomething I'm finding hard to get used to
16:02.07Mezmorwhy are you 15/41/5 with swords.
16:02.09Pancakesyeah, i got no idea what you should use as muti :p
16:02.10Mezmorwhy are you 15/41/5 with swords.
16:02.11JasI'm not
16:02.15Mezmorok good.
16:02.28JasI'm using my daggers until I get my s2 swords, THEN I'm respeccing swords
16:02.39Mezmori see
16:02.50Pancakeswhat were you sustaining, dps wise, with muti
16:02.55Pancakesand what are you sustaining now with combat dag
16:03.14MezmorPancakes is a pve whore, listen to him (but he doesn't have a big clue about rogues, so on the other hand: don't listen to him)
16:03.20JasI'm not sure on the exact numbers but I was sustaining 750-800 with muti
16:03.22Pancakes(i'm a whore)
16:03.22Pancakes:(
16:03.32Jasdown to about 500 with combat dags
16:03.47JasI'm doing something wrong, I know
16:03.52Jasit's just a case of figuring out wtf it is
16:03.58Mezmorgo morogrim
16:04.00Mezmorand test dps htere
16:04.14Jasone tactic I haven't tied yet would be spamming shiv to get CPs and energy
16:04.20Mezmornot worth it
16:04.23Jasthen unloading 5pt snd's, ruptures, evis etc
16:04.27Mezmornot worth it
16:04.38JasThere an echo in here? :P
16:04.40Pancakesdon't use shiv
16:04.45Mezmoryes jas there is :D!
16:04.48Jaslemme give you my currecnt rotation with this build
16:05.29Atreywho played/ plays a rogue that i can talk to in private? About rogues obviously
16:05.47Pancakesspam Mezmor
16:05.50Pancakeshe's pro
16:05.53Jasopen with shiv, 1pt SnD, SS until low on energy (should be up to 4-5 points by then) hit SnD again, hit adren + flurry, backstab spam/rupture/evis when full on cp, when adren fades just keep SnD up and spam SS's
16:05.53Mezmor:D!
16:05.55Pancakes:D!
16:06.08Mezmoropen with shiv
16:06.09Pancakeswhat
16:06.09Mezmoras in
16:06.12Mezmorout of stealth
16:06.12Mezmor??
16:06.12Pancakeswaittttttttttttt
16:06.14PancakesWAIT
16:06.17Mezmorhol yhis-
16:06.18Mezmor???
16:06.19Pancakesyou're using SS with daggers?
16:06.20Mezmoryou're doing it wrong pal
16:06.20Jaswell it depends on the fight
16:06.22Pancakesthere's your problem.
16:06.22Mezmoryou're doing it wrong pal
16:06.29AtreyDoing what?>
16:06.30Mezmornever ever use SS with daggers m8
16:06.30Jassome fights pull me out of stealth before I get an opener
16:06.39Mezmorfind, use backstab
16:06.40Jasif I can, I'll ambush
16:06.41MezmorD:
16:06.47Jasproblem with backstab is
16:06.51Jascombo point generation is terrible
16:06.55AtreyMez
16:06.58Atreytalk to me in priavte!
16:07.00Atreyprivate*
16:07.01Mezmori tried
16:07.04Jasguess I'm too used to muti giving 2 points and crits giving me 1point etc
16:07.05Mezmor) —› raw 505: Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )
16:07.16Atreyhuh??
16:07.20Atreywhos unregistered me or you?
16:07.22MezmorJas) problem with backstab is
16:07.22Mezmor(18:06:48) (Jas) combo point generation is terrible
16:07.32MezmorJas the damage:energy ratio is better than with other abilities
16:07.39Mezmorlet's say 35 energy for a shiv
16:07.46Mezmoryou have around what
16:07.46Jaswit SS spam and improved SS I can get 3-5 points before I'm out of energy
16:07.48Mezmor250crit let's say
16:07.58Jasmy shivs crit around 500
16:08.00Mezmorok
16:08.11Mezmoryou get 500 damage + a poison
16:08.13Mezmorfor 35 energy
16:08.21Mezmorwhen you could get 2k damage for 60 energy
16:08.22Mezmor:|
16:08.22Jashm
16:08.24Jaspoint taken
16:08.34Jasit's just so damn slow to build combo points :/
16:08.43Mezmorthistle tea
16:09.16Mezmorif you want to pot it out
16:09.20Jasokay, so with a 5 min cooldown I can get what, 3 combo points?
16:09.22Pancakes2point t4 helps a lot
16:09.29JasHeh, I have no tier 4 :(
16:09.31Mezmor(what does that do Pancakes?)
16:09.38MezmorAtrey gimme a sec :-)
16:09.44Pancakes3 sec extra on SnD
16:09.53JasBeing the only rogue on a lot of kara runs with loot priority enforced meant I got lots of rogue loot and fuck all chance of getting 'shared' loot like tier tokens
16:10.10Jasor anything from 25mans /lawl
16:10.15Pancakesheh
16:10.18MezThis nickname is owned by someone else
16:10.19Mez:-(
16:10.30Pancakeslink me your armory Pixo
16:10.44PixoSure, one sec
16:10.48Mez`hah
16:11.19PixoI get the feeling it will have my mech chest farming outfit shown though :/
16:11.30Pixooh, no it doesn't
16:11.31Pixohttp://armory.wow-europe.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Ravenholdt&n=Jas
16:11.45Pixoa couple of points I'm aware of with that gear:
16:11.59Pixo1) the offhand dagger is from my muti setup, I have s1 shiv in the bank I'll be using form now on
16:12.10Pixo2) my hitrating is crap,
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16:12.22Pancakesyus
16:12.24Pixo3) my gems are more pve/pvp balanced than pure pve
16:12.41Atreyare you serious, $20 to make an account -.-
16:12.49Mez`..?
16:13.00Atreywho was it that was master rogue?
16:13.00Mez`Atrey
16:13.04Mez`<--
16:13.05Mez`\o>
16:13.07Atrey:P
16:13.11Pancakesmaster rogue Mezmor
16:13.12PancakesD:
16:13.14Mez`fuck yeah seaking
16:13.22PancakesMez` o/
16:13.24Pixowtb epic rogue class quest tbh
16:13.28Pixowith, like, a special title
16:13.43Mez`\o palcakes
16:13.44Infinity-Xheh
16:13.45AtreyOkay...so is there a way i dont have to pay / put credit card details in to private message? or do you have msn or something?
16:14.06Mez`yes
16:14.09Mez`/msg nickserv register
16:14.10Mez`that's it
16:14.13PancakesPixo, best you can do is just regem for pve really
16:14.16Atreywhat do i do with that?
16:14.19Pancakesup your hit rating as much as possible
16:14.23Mez`just type it Atrey
16:14.24Mez`in irc
16:14.28Atreyah okay
16:14.40Atreyso what does   ->*nickserv* register mean?
16:14.45DisispartaHey there rogues I have a question for you
16:14.48Mez`you register your name
16:14.50Mez`so you can pm people
16:14.56Atrey*Atrey* register
16:14.56Mez`go Disisparta 8)
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16:14.58Atreyhuh..
16:15.04Mez`then tell it a password
16:15.13DisispartaDoes blade twisting apply a debuff on bosses, I know it doesn't actually daze them but does it apply the debuff ?
16:15.16Atrey-> *Nickserv* register
16:15.20Atreygah...nothing!
16:15.30PixoDisisparta: I would assume not since they're immune
16:15.35Mez`^
16:15.43PixoAtrey: do /ns reg <your desired password>
16:15.50Atreyah okay
16:15.53Mez`Never really tested, but it's a daze not a slow effect, so... :|
16:15.55DisispartaIt will pop "immune" messages if you do have blade twisting ? Can you guys actually confirm ?
16:16.04Mez`It's not even worth the talent points ;<
16:16.09Pancakeswhy would you take blade twisting anyway
16:16.14DisispartaI heard that while it didn't actually daze them, it did apply the debuff
16:16.22Mez`So......?
16:16.31Mez`How does that benefit the raid
16:16.32Pixothink about it
16:16.36Pixothe debuff is a daze
16:16.39Pixoand they're immune to daze
16:16.49Mez`They're immune to slow effects
16:16.52DisispartaWell, if it does work it would be a huge DPS boost for hunters' steady shot, and at no real cost to 1 rogue's DPS
16:17.35Mez`hmm
16:17.43DisispartaI know it seems counterintuitive that it would actually apply the debuff but I read that somewhere a month or two ago and stranger things have happened
16:17.55Pixogo ask a fury warrior to run up and piercing howl a boss
16:17.56Mez`Daze != Slow effect
16:17.58Pixothere's your answer
16:18.01Mez`Daze != Slow effect <----
16:18.04Gergare the three Tempest Keep 5-mans any harder than the other 70 5-mans?
16:18.24PixoGerg: Arcatraz is arguably pretty hard for a dungeon-geared group
16:18.30Disispartamaybe something works differently with blade twisting
16:18.39Mez`Disisparta
16:18.48Mez`You're right assuming bosses are immune to slow-effects
16:18.50Mez`but blade twisting
16:18.52Mez`is a daze effect.
16:19.08Mez`so tbh
16:19.09Mez`i have no idea 8)
16:19.13PixoI'm fairly certain bosses are immune to daze too
16:19.18Mez`most probably
16:19.26Pixootherwise what's to stop a fury warrior piercing howl kiting boss x around
16:19.27Mez`ask a hunter to run at gruul
16:19.31DisispartaYeah, they're immune no question
16:19.37Mez`conc shot and fd
16:19.39Mez`??:P
16:19.41DisispartaBut it might still apply the debuff but not work
16:19.56PixoDisisparta: that would be the most retarded thing I'd see
16:20.03Pixoeven by the blizzard wow team's standards
16:20.08Mez`:D
16:20.33Disispartahehe
16:20.33Pixovoid reaver is immune to poisons
16:20.42Pixowould he still get deadly poison debuffs on him, even though it did nothing?
16:20.47Pixo^ etc
16:20.49Pancakesheh
16:20.55Mez`heh
16:22.12DrakenWould it still increase heroic strike damage then?
16:22.41Pixoo_O whatnow?
16:23.43Mez`??:P
16:24.08DisispartaAgain it's something I read somewhere, the person might have been wrong, or I might have been on crack
16:24.21Mez`It's somethign that's up for testing
16:24.33Pixodeadly poison buffing heroic strike?
16:24.39PixoYou're talking through your hat.
16:24.53DisispartaNot deadly poison but blade twisting
16:24.57Mez`haha
16:24.58PixoAh
16:25.15Pixo>.>
16:25.35Pixowell let's say that for argument's sake he's immune to dazed but stillg ets the debuf
16:25.41Pixothe debuff would do nothing
16:25.44Mez`yes it would
16:25.46Pixohe wouldn't be dazed
16:25.48Mez`buff steady shots
16:26.51DisispartaIf bosses do get the debuff altough they're not dazed, it's highly possible that it would still be interpreted as a dazed target for the purpose of calculating damage
16:27.08DisispartaMaybe the boss is immune to slow/daze but not immune to the debuff
16:27.09Pixochrist we're geeks.
16:27.19PixoTHE DEBUFF IS DAZE
16:27.20Disisparta<-My fault !
16:27.21PixoxD
16:27.40PixoIf the boss is immune to daze then he wont GET dazed, thus he wont get the debuff!
16:27.48DisispartaAlright I give up *wave white flag*
16:27.52Mez`:p
16:27.55Pixo/nerdrage
16:28.01Disispartahehe
16:28.04Pixoit defies all common sense
16:28.10Mez`not really.
16:28.19Mez`It's just basing the assumption on an error by blizzard
16:28.34GiZiMError by Blizzrd... they make errors?
16:28.43Pixowell i guess that's a fair assumption to make
16:28.45DisispartaIt would be interesting if it worked that way intentionally or if it was changed to be that way
16:28.54PixoAfter all. Mechalol chests ;D
16:29.00Mez`(GiZiM) Error by Blizzrd... they make errors?
16:29.03Mez`I talked to a Gm the other day
16:29.10Mez`About the vanish bug fix with pets
16:29.24Mez`I was told by a gm ages ago that it wasn't a bug and once pets had your smell they followed you everywhere
16:29.30Disispartahehe
16:29.32Pixothat's stealth
16:29.32Mez`so i asked him why i was told this and why they're fixing it
16:29.36Pixostealth != vanish
16:29.43Mez`his reply was "We decided it was working as intended, until we decided it wasn't."
16:29.49Mez`Pixo, i know i was talking to him about vanish
16:29.49Disispartahehe
16:29.50GiZiMWow lol
16:29.53Mez`but like >:|
16:29.56PixoAnd hehe
16:29.59GiZiMI love my Warlock
16:30.02Pixoyeah, it's their game, they make the rules
16:30.06DisispartaI agree with that, working as intended :-)
16:30.24Mez`:-)
16:31.04DisispartaIf you aggro a dog while stealthed and you vanish, does the dog go back to his spot only to aggro again after he has reset ?
16:31.07PixoI seriously love mechanar now :D
16:31.17PixoDisisparta: we're tlaking instance dogs?
16:31.19DisispartaOr does he never leave you ?
16:31.20Pixowith truesight?
16:31.20GiZiMDisisparta he should but that doesnt work
16:31.23DisispartaYeah PvE dogs
16:31.31Pixothey'll deaggro then reaggro you on the spot
16:31.40Pixomaybe if you're sprinting away they'll reset
16:31.50DisispartaSo vanish is working correctly with PvE mobs but not with player's pets
16:32.32Mez`Aye.
16:33.28DisispartaSo it can't be intentional that player pets act that way when rogues vanish - bullet proof argument !
16:34.03Mez`mmh
16:34.05Mez`but y'know
16:34.13Mez`Blizzard defies that stuff
16:34.21Mez`until now at least \o7
16:34.23Mez`\o/
16:36.45AtreyIs anyone other then Mez a good rogue? I need to get some PVE information, in detail :P Mez has helped me with the basics of rogues :)
16:36.53alb`im best rog
16:36.56Mez`alb` \o
16:37.08alb`u wot
16:37.11Mez`fuk rog
16:37.17alb`..
16:37.22Mez`;)
16:37.38Komodowhat do you need to know
16:38.21DisispartaMez is that your real character name ?
16:38.30Mez`no
16:38.30Atreykomodo are you a serious rogue pve?
16:38.32Mez`well
16:38.33Mez`yes :p
16:38.38Mez`i have 3 rogues
16:38.40Komodoyes
16:38.46Atreyokay can i private message you?
16:38.51Komodosure
16:39.28Disispartabbl
16:40.26Mez`\o
16:41.10Mez`fuck
16:41.11Mez`it's clashen
16:41.13Mez`:|
16:42.38AtreyKomodo...you there?
16:42.56Komodonot getting my pm's? O.o
16:43.04Mez`need to register Komodo
16:43.24Komodobah
16:43.28Komodoshould just use quakenet !
16:43.33Komodoso how do i register?
16:43.44Atreyumm
16:43.46Atreyits like
16:44.02Atreygah
16:44.12Atreymez can you help him register? lol i dont know how :P i just did what you told me
16:44.23alb`just ask in the channel
16:44.48Mez`?
16:44.49Adys<PROTECTED>
16:44.51Mez`^
16:45.10Adysregistering is not required apart from being able to send PMs
16:45.26Mez`^
16:45.27Komodo'salright found the FAQ
16:45.31Mez`imma bumpin'
16:46.24Komodoboo
16:46.26Komodosomeone has Komodo
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16:46.36Mez`just do komodo`
16:46.47Viprimethis is my wowhead name tho so
16:47.40*** topic/#wowhead by Adys -> Welcome to the official Wowhead channel. No spamming, trolling, gold/account selling, harrassment. Be civil, friendly, and read the channel rules at http://www.wowhead.com/?irc - Enjoy your stay!
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17:08.25Adyswowbash is creepy
17:08.27Adys"Just because you can post anonymously doesn't mean we can't ban or track you down and eat your liver."
17:09.35Viprimeso like
17:09.44Viprimeis anyone that uses this chan associated with wowhead? :P
17:10.09Teomyrin a way, many are :P
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17:10.26Viprimewell actually involved in the running of
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17:11.48Teomyrof those i know, sko's in the wowhead team, adys is an admin
17:12.08Adyssup?
17:12.19Teomyrnothing, go away :P
17:12.23Adys:(
17:12.27Viprimesko? :D
17:12.36Viprimei think i know him :p
17:12.57Adysteomyr
17:13.02Teomyraye
17:13.08Adysfound the scale of the sands exalted rings yesterday
17:13.22TeomyroO
17:13.33Adysthey are around 29300
17:13.38Adysup on wowhead now
17:13.42Viprimewords cannot express how fun shadowstep is :P
17:13.48Viprime/random comment
17:13.50Adysbut couldnt find the tanking one, its not 29250-29350, or its not available from sniffing :/
17:16.09Adysteomyr: it'd make sense since they're quest rewards technically, but no one worldwide got to exalted yet afaik
17:16.16Viprimehow can i delete comments? :P
17:16.23Adysvip you cant
17:16.24Viprimeaccidently replied to the wrong post :<
17:16.38Adysedit it and say "rate me down"
17:17.48sealiahok this is fked up, my 40 warrior died to 42 mob
17:17.51sealiahi even potted
17:17.52sealiah-_-
17:18.19Viprimehttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=32471#go-to-comment-128232
17:18.22Viprimegogo
17:18.24Viprimerate me down :P
17:19.30SkosirisViprime: hi
17:20.23Viprimehi
17:20.39Viprimedid you go by the name sko in lineage2? :P
17:21.52Adys"Sko" isnt a very uncommon name tbh :p
17:22.13Adyshttp://www.sko.ch/
17:22.14Adyshah
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17:23.51AtreyRogues - Dwarf / Human? (No Nightelf or Gnomes!)
17:24.12Pancakesdwarf
17:24.37AtreyWhy?
17:24.59Mez`stoneform
17:25.01Mez`for blind 8D
17:26.39Viprimeand crippling
17:27.14AtreyDwarf it is
17:27.20Viprimedwarf female
17:31.35SkosirisAdys: "skosiris" is unique though :)
17:31.42Adyspft
17:31.48Skosirishttp://www.google.com/search?q=skosiris
17:31.54AdysA lot of people take up Adys :(
17:32.11AdysOn google im a computer company, some weird language dictionary
17:32.20AdysOn wikipedia Im a battle that took place in 400BC
17:32.22Mez`(@Adys) http://www.sko.ch/
17:32.24Mez`switzerland ftw eh
17:32.28Mez`represent \o
17:32.37Adyson myspace Im a 17 year old girl (pick me pick me.)
17:32.41Adyshow cool is that
17:32.52Mez`awesome
17:33.16Viprimelink
17:33.22Viprime;p
17:33.28trnqltymentally twisted, sick etc.
17:33.47brenyepahwoot woot finally epic flying
17:34.03trnqltythe cheap one. bah.
17:34.41brenyepahthe cheap one?
17:36.05trnqltythe slow one.
17:37.22Mez`That isn't epic
17:38.02Inc`Tired <.<
17:38.11Mez`itt: agility-crit doesn't depend on class
17:38.59trnqltyold news.
17:39.30Mez`more like failed
17:39.33Mez`(lol)
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17:39.55ViprimeO.o
17:40.19Miyarigood afternoon
17:40.32Viprimelo
17:40.33Mez`hi2u
17:40.35Miyarievening/night/morning
17:40.38Inc`Sup Miyari
17:40.39trnqltypay attention to the time zones Miyari
17:40.43trnqltyah, you did.
17:40.46Miyari;)
17:40.46Mez`oh fucking careface
17:40.49Mez`:/
17:44.09Mez`http://youtube.com/watch?v=wj8HrEoEnes
17:44.10Mez`lolwut :D
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17:52.13Helius101Hello guys :)
17:52.41Teomyrheya
17:52.56Helius101Does any of You know if +9 intellect enchant on weapon has any visual effect?
17:55.53Teomyryellow
17:55.57Teomyrhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Enchantments_by_slot
17:56.32MiyariEvery weapon I get doesn't have a glow when enchanted T_T
17:56.46MiyariIt's this terrible trend of preventing me from ever having pretty light trails :(
17:57.27ViprimeShard of Azzinoth looks awesome with mongoose
17:57.46MiyariMongoose is crazy on the warglaive lol
17:57.51MiyariIt's so obnoxious
17:58.18MiyariI just want an 81 heal enchant to actually be visible :(
17:58.22Viprimei want boundless agony
17:58.25Viprimethat looks uber too
18:00.19Miyarithere's an identical dagger to that one only its red
18:00.25Miyariwe actually had both drop in one run o_O
18:00.27Miyarithe red one looks awesome
18:00.45Miyarii wish i had a dps class their stuff always looks the coolest lol
18:01.01Miyarihttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=30865
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18:07.44KreliosJust making sure I correctly connected to the irc channel for wowhead.com...
18:08.08Viprimethis is gay porn xxx
18:08.14Viprimesorry :P
18:08.37Aereusokay seriously, these construction workers need to die in a fire
18:08.47KreliosI can see the wowhead banner, I just wanted to make sure I was connected
18:08.54Viprimeaw
18:09.05Aereusthey've been shoring up this set of cement stairs thats decaying by building a cement block wall underneath
18:09.17Aereusbut they've dragged the project out for like 3 weeks now
18:09.40Aereusand they were gone all week only to come on SATURDAY at 8am and start cutting cement blocks right outside my window
18:10.04Aereusim gonna go complain to my landlord later on bc im tired of not getting sleep bc of those jerks
18:10.27KreliosDoes your lease have a quiet hours policy?
18:10.44KreliosIt's probably like 11pm to 7am or something so you'll be screwed
18:10.45AereusI dont know, I dont remember
18:11.02AereusI work nights so of course I sleep in later
18:11.24KreliosMy apartments in college sucked because of stuff like that.
18:11.43Aereusoh, and my friend who lives like a mile away in other apartments
18:12.01Aereusshe was telling me the house next door had a large party and was outside on the porch PLAYING DRUMS at 1:30am lol
18:12.15Aereuswoke the entire block up ready to kill them before they stopped
18:12.15KreliosThat's when you call the cops :P
18:12.36Aereusthen at 3am someone came out with a duck call (wtf?) from the same place lol
18:12.42KreliosLOL
18:12.56Aereusso yeah, she left them a note now that says if you EVER do that again shes calling the cops no questions asked
18:13.54Aereusanyways ... I was thinking about a new spec after I save up enough arena points again
18:14.22Aereustheres been a Fist/Sword hybrid build that supposedly boosts your DPS quite a bit in raids
18:14.40Aereusso I was thinking about the same idea should work for Combat daggers as well
18:14.41KreliosHuh, really? I've never done much with fist weapons as a rogue
18:14.53KreliosYeah, I'm combat daggers so far and I love it
18:14.55AereusDagger/Quickblade should raise raid DPS
18:15.17Aereusnot as much as the fist, but better than using those 5 filler pts in like Vitality and stun resist
18:15.48Aereuswell the idea is that in order to get down to Surprise attacks in Combat, you have like 5-6 wasted points
18:16.03Aereusso you slap them into sword spec and offhand a quick sword
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18:16.26Aereusyou will then proc an extra attack onto your MH weapon ... be it fist, dagger, mace, whatever
18:16.48KreliosAh, the extra attack from sword spec always affects the MH weapon? I didn't know that
18:16.54Aereusyes
18:17.08KreliosNice, so a sword/dagger spec would be pretty good
18:17.26KreliosExtra attack from swords with the crit % bonus from daggers...
18:17.28Aereuswell the fist/sword is ideal bc the fist will be like 300ish top dmg
18:18.09Aereusfor comparable DPS for example, the fist would be 330dmg, the dagger would be 220
18:18.17IsaliaAnyone happen to have an idea about when Kirith the Damned (55 elite in the Blasted Lands) would be soloable for a rogue? :P
18:18.19Miyarihttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPnwmAdr8hE
18:18.21KreliosTrue, but it's much harder to find good fist weapons
18:18.28Aereusso the sword spec procs would be better for fist, but it would still be extra damage for the dagger as well
18:18.40Aereusdo like everyone else and buy free unearned T5 arena weapons ;p
18:18.41KreliosNo idea, Isalia
18:18.56KreliosMy rogue's way too low for that :P
18:19.05Isalia:)
18:19.14MiyariWhat level is the rogue?
18:19.21Aereusbut yeah, unfortunately the itemization on fist weapons is awful
18:19.28KreliosMine is only 33. My 70s are a hunter and shaman
18:19.30IsaliaI'm 54, but I have no intent to solo it yet :P
18:19.34MiyariFirst comment on http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=7728 is some kid saying how to solo him as a rogue o_o
18:19.45Aereusthe best PVE ones both drop from Al'ar in Tempest Keep, but only 93.7dps
18:19.51MiyariI don't know, I did it 2-man.
18:19.56Aereusso the S2 Arena ones are best at 97.5dps
18:20.01IsaliaI think it's the quest line that eventually leads to You Are Rakh'likh, Demon
18:20.12MiyariIt is
18:20.22Isalia:P
18:20.28MiyariMy b/f and I realized we had never done it pre-TBC so we got bored one day and worked it out
18:20.30IsaliaMaybe I should get a friend to help me xD
18:20.31MiyariAbsolutely amazing quest chain
18:20.40Aereuswhat quest chain?
18:20.41MiyariAnd SO much gold, by standards then.
18:20.42IsaliaAmazingly long, too
18:20.49MiyariThe Rakh'likh one in Blasted Lands
18:20.52Aereusoh
18:20.59IsaliaBut the quest texts actually for once seem interesting :O
18:21.01MiyariVery nicely developed yet sadly overlooked =/
18:21.05MiyariWe got like 140g each doing it at 60
18:21.32IsaliaWow
18:21.43Paradoxis there a filter "summons an npc" or anything like that
18:21.43MiyariWhich reminds me I have stuff to do in Netherstorm -_-
18:22.07IsaliaI might just get some friend help for these group quests :P
18:22.12MiyariLike http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28292? lol
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18:23.01IsaliaThe rewards for the Rakh'likh quest aren't exactly amazing...
18:23.22Adysparadox: soon
18:23.29IsaliaBut I guess it all adds up :P
18:23.41ParadoxI want a filter for Trinkets that filters all trinkets with a cool effect :(
18:23.42AdysWorking on some new filters from spell effects
18:23.53Adyseg summon wild, summon critter,
18:24.00Miyarii use http://www.wowhead.com/?item=10959 in my bank lol
18:24.03Adysor some other stuff
18:24.08Paradoxand by cool effect I mean summon something to fight for you, makes people dance (the piccolo thing) and things like that
18:25.15Adysyou cant have a filter for stuff like making people dance
18:25.30Miyarilol
18:25.30Adyshttp://www.wowhead.com/?spell=18400
18:25.31Miyari(1)
18:25.33IsaliaWell, I guess a 16-slot bag would be pretty amazing for me :P
18:25.43Adysif you check http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=17512
18:25.48AdysScript Effect
18:25.48AdysValue: 1
18:25.48AdysRadius: 5 yards
18:26.00AdysNo way to get any more info from that
18:26.15Adyseventually you can filter all script effects
18:26.19Adysbut you'd get tons
18:26.26Miyari<3 uncategorized spells database
18:26.32Adys:).
18:26.36Miyarisoooo useful :D
18:26.50Adyshttp://www.wowhead.com/?spell=33981
18:26.52Adys<grin>
18:26.54Miyarii use it a lot for figuring out range of boss spells
18:27.16AdysI generally browse them because they are funny
18:27.40Miyarihttp://www.wowhead.com/?spell=35354
18:27.40Adysor http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=26368
18:27.40Miyari:(
18:28.20Miyarihttp://www.wowhead.com/?spell=9455
18:28.35AdysPoor thistle bear
18:28.38MiyariI hope you feel good about yourself now.....
18:28.41Miyarilol
18:28.47AdysYeah its a copypaste of Death Touch
18:28.57Adyshttp://www.wowhead.com/?spell=5
18:29.04Miyariaw where the hell is the one i liked so much
18:29.12AdysWhat does it say?
18:29.13Miyarii found it while trying to find some boss ability from BT
18:29.26Adysremember a word from it?
18:29.37IsaliaNice training cost for that Death Touch :P
18:29.48AdysEh
18:29.53MiyariAHA
18:29.54Miyarihttp://www.wowhead.com/?spell=39369
18:29.54Adysill fix that
18:30.00Miyarithat made me laugh so hard
18:30.03AdysAh yea
18:30.17Miyarii was giggling about it for like an hour
18:30.23Adysseen it couple of days ago >.< i think its another of archimonde's stuff
18:30.40Miyariihttp://www.wowhead.com/?spell=35354 is his
18:30.51Miyaribelieve me i've been on the terrible receiving end of it too many times :(
18:30.59Miyarifyi don't ever let him get to the well of eternity k
18:31.14AdysBy the way just curious, anyone interested to have junk factions on wowhead? As in, able to access to them but hidden by default
18:31.30Miyarisuch as
18:31.46Adyshttp://www.thottbot.com/f/all
18:31.50Adysthese
18:32.12Miyarithose are all important ppl
18:32.18Miyariunlike the shen'dralar
18:32.24Miyariravenholdt and whatnot
18:32.36Adysclick on Show more
18:32.49Adyshttp://www.thottbot.com/f1004
18:32.56Miyariare those even factions?
18:33.03AdysYes
18:33.09AdysIn the game mechanics they are
18:33.17AdysIts mostly used to go friendly with certain mobs etc
18:33.22Adyslet me find you an example
18:33.41Miyariomg armies of c'thun
18:33.43Miyarii remember that!!
18:33.50Adyshehe
18:33.59Miyarihttp://www.wowhead.com/?spell=26195
18:34.06MiyariYou serve C'Thun now, mortal!
18:34.17Miyarithat was so great i camped in feralas for like 4 hours with friends killin horde
18:34.19Miyarilol
18:34.43Isalia... technically, wouldn't there be like a 'Weaponsmith' faction when it exists as a <Guild name> until NPCs?
18:35.12AdysNo
18:35.16Adysthese are proper to NPCs
18:35.23AdysFactions themselves are hidden by default
18:35.28IsaliaAh
18:35.31Adyssome are noted in blizz db as "hidden=0"
18:35.46Adysso that you can see it in the tooltip for example
18:35.53Isalia:S
18:35.58AdysTake another example, the theramore guys since patch 1.6 are on their own faction
18:36.04Adyshttp://www.thottbot.com/f108
18:36.09Adyswas even in the patchnote iirc
18:36.18IsaliaI see
18:36.22Adysbut you cant see it since its hidden, theres no point getting rep with them
18:36.28AdysSame for Wildhammer Clan now
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18:36.58Adysbut as i said most factions are just here to ease it up on scripts where you become friendly with certain mobs
18:37.05MiyariRavasaur Trainers!
18:37.12IsaliaI guess it makes sense there is a "Beast - Bear" faction, should Blizzard ever want to implement that "skinning a bear should aggro every bears" thing...
18:37.17IsaliaxD
18:37.21Adyslol
18:37.21MiyariEVERY bears
18:37.28Miyarii wanna be friendly with bears
18:37.38Isalia:P
18:37.51Miyarihm the screenshots for un'goro suck
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18:38.14IsaliaDeleting teh "every bears" thread from the forums was the worst thing anyone ever did :(
18:38.16IsaliaIt was epic
18:38.30Adyshttp://www.wowhead.com/?spell=38157 there we go
18:38.33AdysApply Aura: Force Reaction (1016)
18:38.34AdysValue: 4
18:38.39Adys1016 is the faction's ID
18:38.47IsaliaSkinning a bear should aggro every bears in a 40 yard radius. It makes sense, you are actually skinning their best friend.
18:38.48Adys4 is the "reputation" id
18:38.49Isalia:D
18:38.50Miyarihttp://wowwiki.com/Skinning_a_bear_should_aggro_every_bears
18:38.53IsaliaExactly
18:39.09Adys0 = hostile, 1 = unfriendly, 2 = neutral, 3 = friendly its something like that
18:39.12Adysi'd have to check
18:39.27Adysnvm 0 = hated
18:39.38Miyarihttp://www.wowhead.com/?spell=22799
18:39.58AdysAye faction 38 http://www.thottbot.com/f38
18:40.31Miyarifascinating
18:40.41AdysWoot, someone admitting this is interesting
18:40.42Adysfinally
18:40.49AdysSKOSIRIS you heard that?
18:41.02Miyarihehe
18:41.16Adysall the spells triggering spells that dont exist
18:41.19Adysits impressive
18:41.36Adysi wonder if blizz has "serverside spells", probably do but it's still weird they dont show up in the dbcs
18:41.42Isaliahttp://thottbot.com/f962 "Crazed Owlkin," that sure is very specific :S
18:42.19Miyarilol
18:42.25Adysquest probably
18:42.31Isalia:)
18:42.37AdysIve been trying to find out how to target untargettable npcs since ages, too
18:42.42Adyshttp://www.wowhead.com/?npc=17438 ^stuff like that
18:42.49Isalia"You are now exalted with Crazed Owlkin," yeah...
18:43.09Miyaristupid moonkins
18:43.13Adyswhen fighting taerar for example, when he splits into three, he goes into this banished mode and you cant target him anymore
18:43.21Adysbut you dont get targetclear
18:43.30Adysso you still got him targetted, so there HAS to be a way
18:43.42IsaliaIt's hilarious reading peoples' comments to these seemingly silly factions
18:43.49Miyariillidan target clears :(
18:43.53Miyarihe is very rude
18:44.00Adyshow wude
18:44.06Adyshm i need to find that nightelf thing
18:44.08Adyser
18:44.30Mez`DON'T YOU WANT SOMEBODY TO LOVE
18:44.35Mez`don't you need somebody to looooooove
18:45.38Isaliaum okay o_o
18:45.48Miyarihttp://www.wowhead.com/?spell=7265
18:45.51MiyariHOLY CRAP HERE IT COMES
18:46.39Mez`haha
18:46.40Adyslol
18:46.43Adysawesome
18:46.51Isalia:P
18:47.12Adyshttp://www.wowwiki.com/User:Adys/Night_elves
18:48.09IsaliaNice
18:48.17Adyswas searching it
18:48.23Mez`haha
18:48.52Miyarilol
18:48.56Miyarihow brutally accurate
18:49.02MiyariWORLD TREE'D
18:49.10Miyarii have a video of that
18:49.13IsaliaMan... I want to be exalted with Red
18:49.13Isaliahttp://thottbot.com/f920
18:49.27Adyslol
18:49.47Miyariscrew that i'm grinding purple
18:50.09Mez`i hear that's a real bugger to grind though Miyari :|
18:50.15Isalia:O
18:50.18Miyarii'm hated with yellow :(
18:50.22IsaliaOuch
18:50.26Mez`fuck :|
18:50.28Miyarigod i hated getting yellow in wc2
18:50.32IsaliaPurple is a good idea, I bet you can get some epics.
18:50.33Miyariit was like GREAT
18:50.58Miyarii wanna edit a wiki :(
18:51.03Miyarii havent done that in forevers hehe
18:51.10AdysThis About to spawn spell im wondering
18:51.16Adysit might be a npc /yell trigger
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18:51.26Tjenlolhy
18:51.27Tjenlolsup
18:51.38AereusSteven Colbert warned us about the bears
18:51.45Adysor maybe some kind of shaking camera thingy
18:52.06Miyarihttp://folk.ntnu.no/magnusrk/wiki/War_of_Emperium <- my last recorded wiki handiwork :(
18:52.11Miyariincoming bears?
18:52.13Adysseeing the icon i'd wildly guess ragnaros fight but i dont see why the sons of flame would have an about to spawn trigger
18:52.35AdysDuration5 seconds
18:52.43Adys<shrugs>
18:53.30MiyariAdys: http://hosted.filefront.com/miyarigoesmoo/
18:53.36MiyariWORLD TREE'D
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18:53.45IsaliaBtw, what's with this icon? seen it on a few things now :| - http://thottbot.com/s3591
18:53.54MiyariSamwise!
18:54.13Tjenlolits when there are no other icons to show
18:54.17Adyshttp://www.wowwiki.com/Samwise_Didier
18:54.21Adysits the default icon
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18:54.41Tjenlolalmost :<
18:54.45IsaliaAhaaa
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18:54.50AdysWowhead replaces it by red questionmarks
18:55.06Adyshttp://www.wowhead.com/?spell=39698
18:55.10IsaliaYeah
18:55.21Adysbecause to be really honest samwise's face isnt really hot
18:55.27Isalia:)
18:55.51Isaliahttp://www.wowwiki.com/Category:Silly that's just awesome browsing through
18:56.44Adyshttp://www.wowwiki.com/User:Adys/The_Madness_of_King_Kael if lore interests you
18:57.45Miyariaw poop
18:57.47Mez`poop
18:57.52Miyaripage doesnt work with my default wowwiki template rofl
18:57.58Miyarii use the white backdrop :x
18:59.18IsaliaAnyone have any other legendary forum topics to read? xD (such as 120 Energy, Kralnor, "Every bears...")
19:00.24Miyarihttp://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/svconway_1959_26749247
19:00.39Portaalamo
19:00.44Portateh durid
19:00.49Isaliaah yes!
19:00.52Portateach u how 2 play
19:01.29IsaliaAlamo teechs u 2 play DURID!
19:01.43Adysisalia: 20% =~ Not his time
19:02.20IsaliaHuh? o_o
19:02.31Adyswas some legendary thread about anachronos
19:02.43AdysSo old :/ meh
19:02.43IsaliaAh
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19:03.57IsaliaHeh, just saw your http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Gmoutland.png ... they actually misspell Outland ingame, too
19:04.16Adysthey misspell it in their ptr feedback tool
19:04.20IsaliaSuch as if you walk through the dark portal at below level 58 ("You must be level 58 to enter Outlands")
19:04.23Isaliareally terrible.
19:04.35Adysand i regularly see gms posting in forums saying its down etc
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19:06.05MiyariWOOT
19:06.11Miyarii sold an enchant for 1150g muahaha
19:06.35Miyarii found boar's speed while farming primal air lol
19:07.03IsaliaNice, nice
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19:08.28Isaliaspeaking of money... anyone have a good method to make money at sub-level 60? (I have skinning, but I hardly think it's profitable...)
19:09.04Miyariwould i still get exp in hellfire ramparts at lvl 64
19:09.26Miyarii kinda suck too much to do anything harder
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19:09.49Adysgrind?
19:09.56Adysyou dont have to do instances
19:09.58Adysthey get boring
19:10.16Miyariim a holy paladin
19:10.21Miyariwith terrible gear
19:10.24AdysGrind with a friend :P
19:10.29Miyarii don't have any friends
19:10.32Adysor respec dps for a few levels
19:10.32Miyarilol
19:10.37Miyarii've been ret til last night
19:10.49Miyaribut i hate questing and grinding is slower than instance for me
19:10.53Portafind a warrior
19:10.57Portalevel with him
19:11.01Porta????
19:11.02Portaprofit
19:11.45Miyari2-person group exp so nerfed ><
19:11.50Miyariim going to try and get better healing gear so i can just lvl in instances
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19:12.01Portatrust me it'll be better than soloing as holy :P
19:12.36Miyariwell yeah lol
19:12.49Miyarii was just getting frustrated soloing so i figured hey ill respec so ppl will love me enough to do instances with me
19:12.58AdysKaydeethree just linked me that
19:12.58Adyshttp://www.wowwiki.com/User:Kaydeethree/Night_elves_continued
19:14.36PeterLOLHey, im back mofos.. quick quezti0n, whats an okay weaponspeed for a 2H weapon as a shaman?
19:14.38IsaliaInteresting... I've never killed a Greater Obsidian Elemental (Burning Steppes) without it dropping either Essence of Earth or Core of Earth (and I've killed about 15 by now)... apparently I'm very lucky :|
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19:20.58PeterLOLWhat defines the ranks on Armory by the way?
19:21.04PeterLOLGM; R1;R2 etc..
19:22.21AdysHuh?
19:22.36AdysRanks have an order in guild tab
19:22.46Adyspromote = -1, demote = +1
19:22.49Adysgm = 0
19:23.57IsaliaBRS worth running? (a friend told me not to, because it's too hard to find a group; dunno if that's true)
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19:51.09IsaliaIs it still possible to make a "dodgetwink" (i.e. 100%+ dodge at level 10-ish)?
19:52.08IsaliaI heard they nerfed dodge rating, but I still see ones like http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Wildhammer&n=Bryanboitano with over 100% dodge...
19:52.47Tjenlolthey shoulda nerfed it
19:53.07Adysthey did nerf it but its still overpowered
19:53.20IsaliaI see
19:53.24AdysThey changed it so that its minimum lvl 35 ratings
19:53.25IsaliaThat sure does seem OP
19:53.31Adysand only on dodge
19:53.51Isalia100% dodge pretty much means you can't be killed by melee
19:54.00Tjenlolit means that.
19:54.45Gnarfoztwo 1 rings?
19:55.02Gnarfozthat guy had some serious time on his hands
19:56.28IsaliaGood point
19:57.02IsaliaWouldn't something like Felstriker (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=12590) be able to hit through 100% dodge? (though of course that isn't applicable at those levels :P)
19:57.13Gnarfozinteresting question :>
19:57.55IsaliaIf the strikes are "guaranteed to land," you'd think that... yeah
20:00.36Fisker-well it has a +100% hit as well as a +100% crit
20:00.53Fisker-but Blizzard already said that regardless of what you will always be able to hit something
20:00.55Fisker-and vice versa
20:01.13Fisker-the same in regards to missing
20:03.47Adyshere we go
20:03.58Adysfinally found the rare version of the spectral tiger
20:12.19Fisker-lol?
20:12.22Fisker-what took you so long
20:12.28Fisker-linked it to you a week ago
20:14.56Mez`i see what you did there
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20:30.19peerless_anyone know if joana's guide for horde leveling is better than just grinding like this says: http://www.wowguru.com/guides/mage-grinding.php    for a mage
20:31.59DroffatsHer guide probably has you questing a lot. So the question is would you rather quest or grind?
20:32.23jdanJoana's guide is pretty much all quest grinding, yeah
20:33.36peerless_yeah
20:33.44peerless_hm
20:34.15peerless_you think just mob grinding is fairly equal speed? just different style
20:35.22DroffatsI dunno. It seems much slower for me.
20:35.52jdanI prefer quest grinding, if you have a good route.. But I've grinded characters from 1-60 at a reasonable speed as well.
20:36.09Droffats1-60 of just mob grinding?
20:36.22jdannot from 1, ofc
20:36.57jdanI leveled my Warrior from 15/20ish by grinding mobs, then I quit when I hit 60.. :\
20:38.11peerless_yeah i mob'd grind from 15-20 in barrens and did it very quick, then tried her guide from 20-21..took a loooong ass time
20:38.43jdanMy Shaman I leveled 30-58 by using a second account with a lv70 BM Hunter running through instances.. Was probably the easiest way to level I've tried so far.
20:39.12DroffatsThat just takes all the fun out of it.
20:40.00jdanWell I've done those levels a few too many times for them to be fun.
20:40.19DroffatsThat's probably true.
20:44.09peerless_frost,fire, or arcane for solo mob grinding lvl 20+?
20:44.30IsaliaFrost ftw :P
20:44.36jdani'd go with frost.
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20:44.47peerless_hm ok
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20:45.06IsaliaNever leveled a mage past 30, but a friend told me he specced frost until 40 and then respecced to fire
20:45.07peerless_deep frost or frost/arcane
20:45.51peerless_isalia..weird ive heard complete opposite being reccomended, because of MC fire resists
20:46.10Isalia:S
20:46.13jdanonly leveled one mage to 60, and i went frost the whole way.. but it might be worth respeccing fire, i was just too lazy..
20:46.21IsaliaI think he skipped MC
20:46.37IsaliaAnd went for the BC instances instead
20:46.41Mez`i hurd u leik nudkips
20:47.59Isaliao_o
20:49.26IsaliaAnyone know if the Mechanar chest rogue "hack" is still possible?
20:50.59jdanBelieve so, there's a post on the euro forums saying that it still works, at least.
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20:52.28IsaliaI see
20:54.14Gnarfozthat would be... stealthing to a chest or what?
20:55.06IsaliaAnd luring the guards away so you have time to open it
20:55.09IsaliaTerrain exploit
20:58.22Mez`mudkips*
21:00.05Pandemic-vHellunderbog is the new mechanar
21:00.07Pandemic-vHelltbh
21:02.16peerless_jdan, what talents should i put into frost early on, im only level 20r ight now
21:02.22peerless_i put 5 into frostbolt
21:02.25peerless_got 6 left
21:02.57peerless_permafrost and ice shards seem good as well
21:03.12peerless_or even frost warding
21:03.50jdanI've not really used my Mage much since the expansion.. I have 5 in Ice Shards though, I think..
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21:30.47PwnfaceIsPwnOMG HAI GUYS WUTS GOIN ON
21:33.48PwnfaceIsPwn=(
21:35.29PwnfaceIsPwnhai2u
21:36.34Viprimelo
21:38.10PwnfaceIsPwnman this chat is so dead
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21:38.27Viprimebusy ambushing for 6k
21:38.59Adyshttp://armory.wow-europe.com/item-info.xml?i=21044
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21:39.18Rawsbusy trying to figure out why this thread refuses to give up monitor ownership of a dispatcher daemon
21:42.25Viprimeblizzard need to fucking fix vanish
21:42.35PeterLOLi got loads of alts
21:42.37Viprimeim happy if it works 50% of the time these days
21:42.39PeterLOLwhy oh god why
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22:01.08PeterLOLAnyone seen the Talon Lord mount ingame?
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22:08.16ParadoxI have
22:08.22Paradoxit's really cool :)
22:10.05KaraiPIME TARADOX
22:13.10Mez`Karai
22:13.13Mez`i herd u leik mudkips?
22:13.19KaraiMUDKIPS!?
22:13.23KaraiI LOOOOOOOOOOVE MUDKIPS
22:13.28KaraiEEEEEEEINF EEEEEEEEEEEEINF
22:13.32Mez`hahahahha
22:13.33Mez`\o>
22:13.45Karai4chan was on fox news lawl
22:13.50Mez`aye
22:13.54Karaidid you see it?
22:14.02Mez`yesterday at 9:00 in the morning gmt+1 time
22:14.03Mez`;D
22:14.08KaraiI fucking lold
22:14.12Mez`aye
22:14.14Mez`she even
22:14.15Mez`got a dog.
22:14.19Mez`our only weakness
22:14.32KaraiAND CURTAINS!!!
22:14.35KaraiLIKE
22:14.36KaraiWTF
22:14.42Mez`haha
22:14.43Mez`aye :D
22:14.44KaraiNWO HOW WIL LWE GET ALL THEIR PERSONAL INFO
22:14.49Mez`Karai
22:14.51Mez`if you look at it
22:14.55Mez`when he's talking about hte passwords
22:15.02Mez`he's holding a huge booklet of pgaes
22:15.09Mez`and says "we found these millions of passwords"
22:15.13Karairofl
22:15.14Mez`so he like, printed 'em all out >:| hacker.
22:15.19Karaii say
22:15.25Karaianon files a lawsuit on fox
22:15.33Mez`aye
22:15.34Karaisaying that fox h4d0rd or passwordz
22:15.42Karaih4x0rd*
22:16.28Mez`haha
22:16.29Mez`aye
22:16.30Karai   NP    : DJ SHARPNEL - LONLY LONLY [00:04/05:39] [|----------]
22:16.32Mez`!
22:19.58Adysavoid spamming guys
22:20.06Adysand avoid caps too
22:20.31Adyswe'll set up a bot in a day or two but meanwhile just keep a good atmosphere here
22:20.32Mez`:-(
22:20.43Mez`'tis a good atmosphere m8
22:20.52Mez`don't be hatin' be appreciatin' <3
22:21.25Paradoxadys
22:21.34Adysmmh?
22:22.03ParadoxI demand to be able to put a 'check' next to items to say that I have them, so I can easily distinguish between recipes I have and do not have, and be able to more clearly see which ones I have to obtain. Now, go make it so.
22:22.11Paradoxpretty please..
22:22.24Karaimouse over = "Already known"
22:22.27Karail2p
22:22.39Paradox43i98y5758y5783425yr784ryqtg5pqgh035
22:22.54Adysits in the plans ;)
22:22.56Paradoxthe website doesn't tell me that :/
22:23.11Adysand im not developping that, whine at the other admins ^
22:23.16Paradoxyay
22:23.20Paradoxwhine at them for me :(
22:23.37Mez`:D
22:26.37Karaihttp://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Fox_News
22:26.41KaraiThe lulz, they were epic
22:27.42Tjenlolseen the pic of osama where it says "Did it for the lulz."?
22:27.45Tjenloli lold hard at that :D
22:27.52Tjenlolwith a pic of the 2 towers
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22:29.30hiawanievenin folks
22:29.51Mez`hi2u
22:30.10Karairofl, today at work i started to pull a candle jack
22:35.18KaraiEvery time I would say anything to anyone, I woudl cut off my se
22:35.37KaraiIt really started to piss off my fellow emlo
22:35.38Karaiemplo*
22:35.43Karai:P
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22:47.25Pixoone thing I noticed
22:47.31Pixoeven Fox respects rules 1 and 2
22:47.56Karairofl
22:48.04Karaino they don;t
22:48.10Karaithey jsut don't knwo what the fuck they are talking about
22:48.15PixoDid they break rules 1 and 2? heh
22:48.21PixoKarai: I didn't say they did ;)
22:48.27Karai:P
22:48.33PixoI actually thought that vid was fake the first tie I watched it
22:48.41Karaime too
22:48.44Karaii was like
22:48.46Karaithere is no way...
22:48.49Karaibut it was confirmed
22:48.54Mez`unpossible
22:48.55Mez`head asplode
22:49.11Pixoit was the epxloding vans that got me
22:49.13KaraiDogs: Anon's only weakness.
22:49.14Pixoexploding*
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22:49.31KaraiCurtains: The ultimate forcefield.
22:49.41Pixohaha yeah
22:49.48Pixothat dog looked too friendly tbh
22:49.53Karai:P
22:50.00Pixothe type of dog that would sit waggings its tail as you evisceratedits master
22:50.08Pixochrist I'm typing like a tard
22:50.12KaraiANONYMOUS IS AN UNDERGROUPD INTERNET HACKING GANG ON STEROIDS
22:50.25TjenlolINTERNET HATE GROUP
22:50.29PixoxD the steroids comment too
22:50.33Pixothat was fucking hilstious
22:50.35KaraiINTERNET HATE MACHIIIIIIIIINE
22:50.40PixoHahahaha
22:50.43Tjenloldamn machine
22:50.44Tjenlol:(
22:50.49Karaihttp://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Fox_News
22:51.45Karaihttp://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Image:Hate-Machine.jpg
22:51.54Mez`more like hay-machine
22:52.11Karaihttp://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Buy_A_Dog
22:52.32Mez`gotta love ed.
22:53.01Karaied: the history of the internet
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22:53.38KaraiDogs are the third hardest substance known to man, next to diamond, and of course, Chocolate rain.
22:54.34Pixocawklet raaain
22:54.39Pixochawklet* damnit
22:54.40KaraixD
22:54.58KaraiITT wowhead has been hijacked, we now talk about epic lulz
22:55.26PixoWowhead's closed. AIDs in the databases.
22:55.38KaraiIf potential victims cannot buy a dog, then A cat is fine too.
22:55.43Karaii fucking lold
22:57.30PixoHm
22:57.40PixoI don't actually know what ITT stands for, I'm guessing "It's the truth"?
22:58.11Karaiin this thread
22:58.17PixoAh
22:58.19Karai<3
22:58.31Karaia urbandictionary.com is fine too
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23:31.09Miyarii hate updating omen 4 times a week
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23:32.30The_BugI just got home after a day of work, and apparently there's been like three updates of Omen today o.O
23:32.34Meroanyone know wheres the movie of wow dances where you see where the dances are taken from?
23:32.34Miyarirofl
23:32.36Miyarino surprise right
23:32.42The_BugEh, not really.
23:32.44Miyarithere's one on youtube i think
23:33.00The_BugI just use the WoWace updater, since like 90% of my UI is Ace based.
23:33.04Adysmero: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=066_q4DIeqk
23:33.21Karaihttp://img.4chan.org/b/src/1185661520167.jpg O LAWD
23:33.33The_Bughttp://www.wowwiki.com/Dancing
23:33.37Meroadys: ty, thats the one
23:33.50The_BugMy link will throw you to the WoWwiki site with all the dances and links provided.
23:34.36Meroyes, but the one adys gave show u the wow characters with the real dance together ^^
23:34.50The_BugOh snap :(
23:34.54The_BugI've been outdone!
23:34.58The_BugQQ
23:39.12Miyarii use the updater also
23:39.19Miyarirunning underbog atm semitabbed
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