| 00:00.17 | Gnarfoz | I need an AMD GPU to use FreeSync (2), don't I? |
| 00:01.12 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 00:01.53 | Gnarfoz | and G-Sync displays is still obscenely expensive? |
| 00:02.19 | Gnarfoz | why are these things this way around, considering how good/bad the respective GPUs are? >_> |
| 00:02.58 | nevcairiel | maybe thats why its this way around |
| 00:03.25 | nevcairiel | gsync is technically superior, although most people dont care for that difference |
| 00:03.37 | Gnarfoz | is it still? |
| 00:04.07 | Gnarfoz | I thought it was mainly this expensive because vendors have to literally buy a module from nvidia for it, vs. "implementing" FreeSync |
| 00:04.48 | nevcairiel | thats true, but that gives you a unified tech that just works, instead of vendor implementation potluck |
| 00:04.53 | nebula | monitor oems should just refuse to implement either until they unify the tech |
| 00:04.54 | Gnarfoz | (kind of like HDMI which costs a) license and b) extra import taxes whereas DisplayPort is both free to use and doesn't cause your computer display to be considered an "entertainment device" for tax purposes) |
| 00:05.17 | Gnarfoz | :s |
| 00:05.29 | nevcairiel | anyhow that screen there is pointless anyway |
| 00:05.38 | Gnarfoz | because we're where we are: in what way is g-sync > fs2? |
| 00:05.42 | nebula | hdmi was licensed? didn't know that |
| 00:05.50 | nebula | /was/is/ |
| 00:06.13 | Gnarfoz | (AFAIRecall!) |
| 00:06.33 | nevcairiel | its a consumer entertainment tech, of course it is |
| 00:06.50 | Gnarfoz | (huh, AFAIR the R stood for "reckon" at some point/somewhere, but it was recall all along) |
| 00:07.03 | Gnarfoz | (maybe it's just sleep deprivation!) |
| 00:07.25 | Gnarfoz | and yeah, the 8K screen is of course rather pointless for most people. but I bet it looks plenty awesome |
| 00:07.42 | nevcairiel | i doubt i could tell the difference from a 4k screen really |
| 00:07.54 | nevcairiel | also almost 32" is too big for my taste |
| 00:08.52 | Gnarfoz | I'm on 2x 16:10 24" and my glasses make them smaller than I realized |
| 00:09.20 | Gnarfoz | (not that I have an option, everything else is just as small :P) |
| 00:10.29 | Gnarfoz | I was giving the 43" version of Samsung's 49" Super-Ultradwide (32:9) they just debuted some thought, since, contrary to the 49" one it's actually 32:10, i.e. 3840x1200, which is basically the same resolution as my current screens have, combined |
| 00:10.38 | Gnarfoz | on the other hand, that would mean I don't gain anything. :P |
| 00:11.08 | nevcairiel | yeah i'm not sold on that ultrawide business |
| 00:11.10 | Gnarfoz | (I'd lose the bezels between the screens, though; and from my guildie who has the 49" one, I hear that you can actually run it as two screens) |
| 00:11.29 | nevcairiel | you kind of have to for the majority of apps to e ven make some sense of it =p |
| 00:12.09 | Gnarfoz | you'd have to get used to using non-maximized programs, for sure |
| 00:12.28 | Gnarfoz | also, since they're curved and super wide, they are also very deep |
| 00:12.41 | Gnarfoz | not sure that's a good fit for my "desk in front of wall" setup |
| 00:12.52 | nevcairiel | i have 3 screens with a manual curve in them |
| 00:12.59 | nevcairiel | ie. the two on the sides stand at an angle |
| 00:13.50 | nevcairiel | but i would want to give up my 1440p 144hz gsync gaming screen |
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| 00:19.59 | Gnarfoz | for what? |
| 00:20.01 | Gnarfoz | and why? |
| 00:20.29 | Gnarfoz | (also, can you elaborate on gsync > fs (&fs2?)) |
| 00:21.33 | Gnarfoz | Neither of these lists ist particularly long :\ (>= 27", 1440p, G-Sync) https://geizhals.de/?cat=monlcd19wide&v=l&hloc=at&hloc=de&hloc=pl&hloc=uk&hloc=eu&fcols=11955&sort=p&xf=11939_27~11942_2560x1440~11959_8bit+(16.7+Mio.+Farben)~11992_NVIDIA+G-Sync / (>= 27", D, G-Sync) |
| 00:21.36 | Gnarfoz | bah |
| 00:21.50 | Gnarfoz | Neither of these lists ist particularly long :\ (>= 27", 1440p, G-Sync) https://geizhals.de/?cat=monlcd19wide&v=l&hloc=at&hloc=de&hloc=pl&hloc=uk&hloc=eu&fcols=11955&sort=p&xf=11939_27~11942_2560x1440~11959_8bit+(16.7+Mio.+Farben)~11992_NVIDIA+G-Sync / (>= 27", 2160p, G-Sync) https://geizhals.de/?cat=monlcd19wide&v=e&hloc=at&hloc=de&hloc=pl&hloc=uk&hloc=eu&fcols=11955&sort=p&xf=11939_27~11942_3840x2160~11992_NVIDIA+G-Sync |
| 00:22.37 | nevcairiel | i have the predecessor of that acer predator thats the second in the list |
| 00:22.44 | Gnarfoz | (also, quite a steep price spectrum in the UHD list) |
| 00:23.19 | Gnarfoz | I should probably exclude TN from either list, not sure about IPS vs VA |
| 00:23.22 | nevcairiel | The difference between gsync and freesync is ultimate quite irrelevant anyway, because you have to get a AMD card for one, and noone wants that |
| 00:23.44 | Gnarfoz | true, just curious, since you mentioned it |
| 00:25.31 | nevcairiel | the biggest advantage is as hinted above that you get a consistent experience everywhere, since its always controlled by the same thing, and nvidia mandates certain proprties of the panel as well, mostly regarding low refresh rate limits, which can be a bit hit or miss on freesync, so one has another factor to check for in reviews |
| 00:26.19 | nevcairiel | also the behavior when switching from high to low refresh rate quickly is better with gsync generally - although thats then again up to the screen maker to get right |
| 00:27.16 | nevcairiel | although the price of the 4k hdr gsync module is a bit outrageous, but there is only like 2 screens with it so far anyway |
| 00:27.41 | Gnarfoz | see second list above, 7 |
| 00:27.57 | Gnarfoz | (doubt there's a <27" one that that list excludes :D) |
| 00:28.13 | nevcairiel | the list seems wrong |
| 00:28.26 | nevcairiel | or well, maybe you can do 4k without hdr with the old module |
| 00:28.49 | Gnarfoz | apparently. only 2 use "G-Sync HDR" |
| 00:28.54 | Gnarfoz | which is probably what you meant |
| 00:29.00 | nevcairiel | there is only two so far, the Acer Predator X27 and the ASUS Rog something |
| 00:29.25 | Gnarfoz | also, what the hell model numbers does Acer use: Acer Predator X27bmiiphzx |
| 00:29.39 | nevcairiel | yeah no clue whats with the letter jumble |
| 00:29.46 | nevcairiel | it usually stops after the numbers |
| 00:29.56 | Gnarfoz | ah, a cool 2500⬠for either of those |
| 00:29.59 | nevcairiel | or well the uppercase letters |
| 00:30.06 | nevcairiel | mine says XB270HU on the front |
| 00:30.45 | nevcairiel | XB271HU is on your 1440p list, the newer variant of it |
| 00:30.56 | Gnarfoz | apprently it's https://www.acer.com/ac/de/DE/content/predator-model/UM.HX1EE.001 "Predator XB1" |
| 00:31.00 | nevcairiel | with an uglyier stand, apparently |
| 00:31.45 | Gnarfoz | (Modellname : Predator XB271HK ... they can't decide, can they... or they interspersed the screen diagonal betwen the XB and the 1) |
| 00:32.20 | Gnarfoz | anyway, why are you looking to get rid of you current one? |
| 00:32.32 | nevcairiel | Oh I know why thsoe two HDR screens need the new gsync module |
| 00:32.36 | nevcairiel | they are 4k 144hz |
| 00:32.45 | nevcairiel | the other ones are 4k 60hz |
| 00:33.08 | nevcairiel | I'm not? :) |
| 00:33.41 | nevcairiel | apparently i forgot a not in a sentence earlier |
| 02:07.25 | Gnarfoz | ah |
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| 11:06.16 | Fisker | why Gnarfoz |
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| 13:08.35 | quiescens | moo |
| 13:09.28 | znf | today I had a note on my windshield with "please stop parking here" |
| 13:09.42 | znf | I replaced it with "Police Station Nr. 2: <phone number>" |
| 13:11.46 | Kalroth | tomorrow it'll be keyed with the text "fuk u" |
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| 16:43.26 | znf | <rant> |
| 16:43.45 | znf | So about 2 weeks ago, our DC went down because our ISPs fiber was cut and their backup didn't work automatically. |
| 16:44.03 | znf | I've got this client on Shared Hosting (a reseller account), asking TODAY about what happened 2 weeks ago. |
| 16:44.09 | znf | I reply back with an explanation. |
| 16:44.31 | znf | He replies back with "there was a lack of communication" and... "I hope we can address this as a discount to the invoice that is due tomorow" |
| 16:44.51 | znf | ...and, he has the audacity of claiming that's why they didn't pay until now, because he didn't know what happened. |
| 16:44.54 | znf | 2 weeks after the event. |
| 16:45.36 | nebula | i mean, what does your sla say? |
| 16:45.37 | znf | And this is the same guy for which I always postpone the due-by date because he needs extra time to pay it. |
| 16:45.54 | Funkeh` | nebula: are you sure that's what you mean |
| 16:46.16 | znf | he always needs +2 more weeks to pay the invoice |
| 16:46.17 | nebula | most likely |
| 16:46.18 | znf | </rant> |
| 16:48.37 | znf | >math calc 744 / 100 * 1 |
| 16:48.39 | Catal1na` | 7.44 |
| 16:48.47 | nebula | >.> |
| 16:48.50 | znf | ...yes, I just did that |
| 16:48.55 | znf | I realized after I pressed enter |
| 16:48.56 | znf | :D |
| 16:51.35 | znf | Haha. |
| 16:51.39 | znf | My colleague had a great idea. |
| 16:52.03 | znf | Add penalties for late payments. |
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| 17:51.36 | Primer | znf: talk about android with me |
| 17:51.53 | Primer | Since I can't get anyone in any #android* channel here on freeload to even say anything |
| 17:52.10 | Primer | And those channels all have like 400+ people too |
| 17:52.48 | znf | Primer: I could try that, but I think Stanzilla knows Android better :D |
| 17:53.15 | znf | I'm still on Android 6.0 :D |
| 17:53.16 | Primer | I just rooted my AT&T LGv30 |
| 17:53.38 | Primer | Which had me install an upstream image from LG (I believe) |
| 17:54.07 | Primer | This exploit actually unlocked the bootloader, so I've got TWRP installed as the bootloader |
| 17:54.14 | znf | neat |
| 17:54.21 | Primer | Right now the phone is telling me there's an update |
| 17:54.32 | znf | TRWP is recovery not bootloader |
| 17:54.42 | Primer | See? I don't know the terms |
| 17:54.46 | Primer | Or the concepts |
| 17:54.58 | Primer | I mean, on a proper box I know what Linux will do, but android is totally different |
| 17:55.20 | Primer | So I'm not sure if accepting this update will plug the hole |
| 17:55.31 | znf | you're not gonna be able to do it anyway |
| 17:55.34 | Primer | But...perhaps that boat has sailed? I mean, the bootloader is unlocked |
| 17:56.03 | znf | not sure the specifics of the AT&T version, but you usually can't OTA after rooting |
| 17:56.03 | Primer | Why will I not be able to update? |
| 17:56.13 | Primer | This is an LG image |
| 17:56.15 | Primer | And an LG update |
| 17:56.19 | znf | Doesn't matter |
| 17:56.23 | Primer | Not AT&T |
| 17:56.27 | Primer | Of course it matters |
| 17:56.46 | znf | Except the old nexuses, I don't know of any phone that you can root and then actually do OTAs again |
| 17:57.02 | Primer | The OTA is from LG, not AT&T |
| 17:57.09 | Primer | The current image I'm running is from LG |
| 17:57.26 | Primer | It's not cyanogen or any custom image |
| 17:57.33 | znf | Those would actually work :P |
| 17:57.46 | Primer | That's what I was thinking |
| 17:57.57 | Primer | That this update should be fine |
| 17:57.58 | znf | I don't know, really. I haven't messed around with Android at that level in a long time. |
| 17:58.10 | znf | No - I meant - the Cyanogen & custom images updates would be fine |
| 17:58.31 | znf | But a modified "stock" image won't be upgradeable via OTA anymore. |
| 17:58.35 | znf | Again - things might have change |
| 17:58.38 | znf | changed |
| 17:58.39 | Primer | It's not modified |
| 17:58.47 | znf | you have root? it's modified |
| 17:58.55 | Primer | Not really? |
| 17:59.01 | znf | You said you have root |
| 17:59.04 | Primer | So? |
| 17:59.12 | Primer | I installed an app...would that "modify" it? |
| 17:59.20 | Primer | I'm seeing it the same way |
| 17:59.32 | znf | well, unless you have systemless root, which I doubt, then it's modified |
| 17:59.33 | Primer | The image itself is LG's, flashed to the device as-is |
| 17:59.50 | Primer | I simplty have access to the bootloader, which allows me to write to /system |
| 17:59.59 | Primer | I do have systemless root |
| 18:00.22 | Primer | In fact, that's one of the things I want to understand. Why is it that I have to reboot every time I install a systemless app. |
| 18:00.24 | znf | Cool. |
| 18:00.27 | Primer | ok, game on |
| 18:00.33 | Primer | Go Croatia! |
| 18:01.01 | znf | Anyway, the thing is - without owning your exact device, I can't tell. Some full system updates relock your bootloader and shit like that. |
| 18:01.13 | znf | but it depends from update to update |
| 18:01.16 | Primer | That's what I fear |
| 18:01.24 | znf | if it's an incremental update, small one, then I'd risk it |
| 18:01.31 | Primer | I believe it is |
| 18:01.35 | Primer | I'm on 8.0.0 |
| 18:01.48 | Primer | I imagine update just brings me to 8.1 |
| 18:01.55 | znf | if it's a large one (1gb+), then it probably has a high chance of relocking it and everything |
| 18:02.12 | znf | Why not stop by XDA? |
| 18:02.17 | Primer | I doubt the updater will tell me how big it is |
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| 18:02.20 | znf | I'm sure those guys have the experience |
| 18:02.57 | znf | well, the /part was rude :P |
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| 18:04.49 | Primer | So yeah, it seems I hit a key combo that causes /part... |
| 18:04.51 | Primer | I don't even know if I was talking here last... |
| 18:05.44 | Primer | Was it? I lost my scroll back |
| 18:05.46 | Primer | fuck |
| 18:05.49 | Primer | GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLll |
| 18:06.17 | znf | I said that you should check XDA :P |
| 18:06.28 | znf | those guys know better |
| 18:06.39 | Primer | #xda on freeload? |
| 18:06.46 | Primer | I want IRC |
| 18:07.33 | Primer | No one there |
| 18:08.21 | Primer | I was on #android-root, where there are over 400 people, not a peep for hours |
| 18:08.38 | Primer | Guess I'll just lurk. Thanks, znf |
| 18:08.47 | znf | oh, no lol |
| 18:08.49 | znf | read the forum |
| 18:09.10 | Primer | Hate forums |
| 18:09.20 | Primer | It's so much to sift through |
| 18:09.52 | znf | yup, but these android fuckers love them |
| 18:09.56 | znf | and that's where all the info is :( |
| 18:10.47 | Primer | As well as all the noise |
| 18:10.56 | znf | yeah, you gotta learn to read fast :P |
| 18:10.57 | Primer | It's like 99.9999% noise |
| 18:11.09 | znf | and dig trough all the shit |
| 18:16.26 | nebula | welcome to the internet. |
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| 21:28.27 | ls- | their preview community is called "bigmoo"!!! |
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| 21:50.34 | foxlit | https://pastebin.com/anQV6f8X << from the mildly insane department, here's a progress bar. |
| 21:51.33 | znf | looks like progress allright |
| 21:52.45 | foxlit | the percentage done per line decreases so it never hits 0% |
| 22:08.24 | foxlit | "Merge Your WoW CurseForge Account with a Twitch Account!" wait, what? |
| 22:08.52 | foxlit | go home, curseforge, you're drunk. |
| 22:40.21 | znf | foxlit: I received a "merge your Mine craft forum account" |
| 22:40.36 | znf | I don't ever recall to have used the minecraft website |
| 22:41.44 | nevcairiel | i got that minecraft one as well |
| 22:41.46 | nevcairiel | i just ignored it |
| 22:42.00 | nevcairiel | i never played minecraft, so why would i ever visit that forum |
| 22:58.13 | foxlit | similar emails from diablofans and hearthpwn |
| 23:00.05 | foxlit | but I know why I got those; I ocassionally click on random links on the mmoc frontpage. |
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