| 00:08.13 | znf | holy shit Stanzilla https://photos.app.goo.gl/9t3rjtzkmVCm4iG42 |
| 00:08.17 | znf | PERFECTION |
| 00:08.59 | Stanzilla | nebula: that sounds like a commit I did |
| 00:09.08 | Stanzilla | znf: giev |
| 00:15.17 | znf | i ate all |
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| 00:19.30 | znf | 500ml of dark beer |
| 00:19.38 | znf | salt, pepper |
| 00:19.49 | znf | also some pepper (whole) throw in the beer |
| 00:19.54 | znf | put ribs in tray |
| 00:19.56 | znf | fill up with beer |
| 00:20.10 | znf | put on low in the oven for 2 and half hours |
| 00:20.17 | znf | from time to time, turn the ribs over |
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| 02:04.25 | Stanzilla | phone usage is about the same every day, last battery charge lasted 2 days |
| 02:04.30 | Stanzilla | today: half a day |
| 02:04.33 | Stanzilla | just android things |
| 02:05.22 | Stanzilla | also RIP userscripts.org |
| 03:01.29 | pompy | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:03.22 | Stanzilla | I know |
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| 06:33.58 | znf | We have identified that your account does not reflect that you have taken this tax information interview and failure to take the tax information interview will result in up to 30% U.S. tax withholding. |
| 06:34.06 | znf | why would that matter? |
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| 06:58.50 | Stanzilla | no idea but I just did the interview as well |
| 06:59.21 | nevcairiel | i cant do it, the tax website gives me a 500 |
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| 08:06.49 | Kesava | Amazon getting involved in making it all tax legit |
| 08:06.52 | Kesava | gross |
| 08:09.12 | nevcairiel | at the beginning you also had to fill some tax form if you exceeded some yearly limit, but not sure if they kept up to date with that |
| 10:00.01 | Stanzilla | not that anyone really makes much with curse points anymore anyway |
| 10:00.11 | Stanzilla | I get like a third of last year |
| 10:20.20 | znf | wow's popularity has gone down :( |
| 10:23.10 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 10:32.57 | znf | I really really hate click to move in hots sometimes |
| 10:36.00 | znf | (ie: when playing abathur) |
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| 10:39.11 | Stanzilla | yeah I want a force stand still button like in d3 |
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| 11:46.28 | mitch0 | meh, the tax info page doesn't like non-ascii names... |
| 11:46.40 | mitch0 | way to live in the 18th century... |
| 11:46.52 | Stanzilla | yeah had to change my street name because of it |
| 11:48.15 | nevcairiel | i still get an error 500 when opening it |
| 11:48.58 | mitch0 | erm, I'm not sure if I have an "income tax identification number"... |
| 11:49.18 | mitch0 | I have a "tax identification number", but that's not just for income tax... |
| 11:50.02 | Stanzilla | I just said that I don't have one |
| 11:50.38 | nevcairiel | everyone has one, you probably just dont know it |
| 11:50.47 | nevcairiel | well as soon as you earned any money ever |
| 11:51.08 | Stanzilla | yeah I don't have one |
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| 11:55.16 | znf | I also don't have one? |
| 11:56.22 | nevcairiel | at least in germany you dont actually have to do your own taxes if you're a "simple" case (ie. just basic employment etc), and of course you get assigned an income tax number then, they just dont tell you unless you ask |
| 11:57.19 | mitch0 | for a moment I thought the want a real digital signature... eh |
| 11:57.23 | mitch0 | s/the/they/ |
| 11:59.10 | mitch0 | wonder if payment from curse will be included in the automaticly generated tax return statement from now on... |
| 11:59.40 | nebula | you didn't submit a w8ben before? that's all the info is for |
| 11:59.55 | nevcairiel | apparently they want to renew those |
| 12:01.47 | znf | more trouble than it's worth it |
| 12:02.42 | Stanzilla | I actually considered not giving a fuck since I make next to nothing now in points anyway |
| 12:02.45 | Stanzilla | but it was fast |
| 12:02.59 | nevcairiel | does WA not make points |
| 12:03.05 | Stanzilla | not anymore, no |
| 12:03.28 | nebula | there's a threshold for when they need to report, I doubt many people other than nev hit it now :p |
| 12:03.43 | nevcairiel | addon-related points are pretty low for me as well, majority is from libraries |
| 12:03.52 | nebula | yea |
| 12:04.08 | Stanzilla | "WoW in general has drastically dropped in popularity as a whole. Our point system is spread across all of CurseForge. As other games sky rocket in popularity, they take a larger chunk. I feel that's the easiest way to explain it, but it's a lot more complicated than just that." |
| 12:04.12 | Stanzilla | was the answer that I got |
| 12:04.22 | Justwait | I think my bigwigs cut is about 2 cents a day |
| 12:04.26 | Justwait | #worth |
| 12:04.29 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 12:04.36 | Stanzilla | weakauras is like 5 euro now :D |
| 12:04.38 | nevcairiel | the minecraft idiot kiddies probably take up all the points |
| 12:04.47 | mitch0 | :) |
| 12:05.17 | nebula | 5⬠a day ain't bad :p |
| 12:05.30 | Stanzilla | that was month |
| 12:05.31 | Stanzilla | sorry |
| 12:05.57 | Stanzilla | "We're working on a better way to explain, and are approaching other WoW specific areas of concern regarding points. Its just a really hard process to navigate without upsetting someone, or adding more confusion than there already is around how the system works. it really is a proper economy, with all the drawbacks that come with that. Another issue is that the formula and processing is very legacy - it's been integrated into everything, an |
| 12:05.57 | Stanzilla | d operates a very specific way. If we change anything, we risk borking the whole system. |
| 12:05.57 | Stanzilla | So if it's any consolation, we're aware of the downsides. Though, unsure how to approach any changes or update as of yet." |
| 12:06.05 | Stanzilla | if anyone cares, that was the rest of the answer |
| 12:07.05 | nevcairiel | you only make 100 points a month from WA? thats pretty sad, HereBeDragons makes 55 poins a day alone |
| 12:07.21 | Stanzilla | it's a bit more but not much |
| 12:09.13 | nebula | only reason I get any is because adi gave me a % of libdualspec |
| 12:09.24 | Stanzilla | (less than HBD btw) |
| 12:09.27 | nevcairiel | considering you basically rewrote it for legion =p |
| 12:09.39 | Stanzilla | that is actually really sad |
| 12:09.40 | nebula | normal addons dropped to shit |
| 12:09.48 | Stanzilla | considering how many people use WA |
| 12:09.58 | nevcairiel | i always figured WA would be one of those that basically everyone has installed |
| 12:10.02 | Justwait | I'm suprised libs generate so much |
| 12:10.21 | Justwait | they are grabbed for each download or only when a build is packaged? |
| 12:10.45 | Stanzilla | they dont really rely on download count for that generation |
| 12:10.47 | nevcairiel | IIRC there is like 10% of every addon that uses them is spread to the libs that it uses, or maybe 5%? |
| 12:11.06 | Justwait | I see |
| 12:11.20 | nebula | Justwait:Â they'd based on the number of people with it installed |
| 12:11.38 | nevcairiel | they do give you more points if you update your addon though |
| 12:11.43 | nebula | (mostly) downloads do count a bit |
| 12:11.45 | nevcairiel | after several months without an update your points decay |
| 12:11.51 | mitch0 | so all the cheaters who get it via svn/git are basically thieves! |
| 12:13.56 | mitch0 | yay, Bazooka generates 0.2 points a day :) |
| 12:14.20 | nevcairiel | might have been 0.201 if i didnt use the repository |
| 12:14.21 | nevcairiel | sorry |
| 12:14.32 | mitch0 | :) |
| 12:14.54 | mitch0 | I'm ripping you off with Ace3 so we're even ;) |
| 12:15.31 | mitch0 | (not that I actually play any more apart from the occasional testing) |
| 12:16.07 | Stanzilla | does anyone in here actually still play? |
| 12:16.24 | nevcairiel | like once every 2 weeks or so right now |
| 12:16.30 | nebula | casually |
| 12:16.35 | znf | nope |
| 12:16.55 | nevcairiel | its not like right now is the time of a lot of things to do in game |
| 12:17.56 | Stanzilla | yeah well even before when there was, I just was not interested |
| 12:18.40 | nebula | got my toons up to 940-960 ilvl for bfa leveling /cheer |
| 12:18.57 | Justwait | without raiding? |
| 12:19.00 | nevcairiel | i've been meaning to pug antorus but i'm just lazy |
| 12:19.09 | Stanzilla | how, that is high |
| 12:19.27 | Justwait | not too high |
| 12:19.29 | Justwait | if you just do weekly 15 |
| 12:19.30 | nevcairiel | i'm around 950 as well without setting foot into antorus beyond lfr |
| 12:19.36 | nebula | just plugging and doing m+ |
| 12:19.47 | Stanzilla | my highest is 935 or so |
| 12:19.49 | nebula | pugging even |
| 12:19.55 | Stanzilla | but I never do m+ |
| 12:20.02 | Stanzilla | I think my total m+ count is ~20 |
| 12:20.20 | nevcairiel | we try to do m+ once a week, but lately we didnt find the time to keep the schedule up regularly |
| 12:20.29 | nevcairiel | but thats about all i still do right now |
| 12:21.00 | Stanzilla | Amount of Mythic 2+ Dungeons completed in time: 11 |
| 12:21.00 | Stanzilla | Amount of Mythic 2+ Dungeons completed in time: 21 |
| 12:21.00 | Stanzilla | Amount of Mythic 2+ Dungeons completed in time: 8 |
| 12:21.03 | Stanzilla | not that far off :D |
| 12:21.09 | Justwait | that's in time |
| 12:21.13 | Justwait | could have done a 100 without time |
| 12:21.14 | Justwait | :p |
| 12:21.34 | Stanzilla | dont have better stats than wowprogress right now! |
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| 12:23.22 | Megalon | hossa |
| 12:41.07 | Megalon | guess nickserv doesn't like it when you try to auth 67 times |
| 12:41.14 | Megalon | 'cause I got k-lined for it :< |
| 13:01.08 | Stanzilla | serves you right |
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| 13:51.54 | Phixion | so 66 times is fine? |
| 13:51.58 | Phixion | good to know |
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| 14:24.50 | znf | Answer the call to arms and claim your 7 days of free game time* to prepare for the upcoming offensive in World of Warcraft: Battle for Azeroth. Log in to the Blizzard Battle.net desktop app before April 30, 2018 in order to claim your gift. |
| 14:25.15 | nevcairiel | i want 7 free days |
| 14:35.50 | Kalroth | quit your job, np! |
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| 15:00.26 | wink | my arms are never called :( |
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| 16:23.29 | znf | So, I'm getting takedown notices on our abuse@ |
| 16:23.43 | znf | But the IP block is allocated to a different client |
| 16:23.51 | znf | and we are unable to forward the message to them |
| 16:23.52 | znf | https://i.imgur.com/CZtDoxb.png |
| 16:23.53 | znf | :-/ |
| 16:23.55 | znf | fucking hostgator |
| 16:27.13 | Flamegoat | Hi, hello. I'm making my rounds given the email that went out last night. Here to answer questions, if you don't know what I'm talking about you may not have received it. It would have been requesting you to take the Amazon Tax Interview. |
| 16:27.41 | znf | .o/ *raises hand* |
| 16:27.45 | Flamegoat | Shoot. |
| 16:27.51 | Flamegoat | (be honest, I can take it) |
| 16:28.18 | znf | *puts hand down* I missread, I got the mail, don't have questions |
| 16:28.26 | Flamegoat | Ah, okay. |
| 16:28.26 | znf | too much work to do for $10/year I get in rewards :P |
| 16:29.26 | Flamegoat | Heh, yea. So my official "why" -> Due to ongoing review of policies, rules, and regulations we've made changes to how we collect tax information. All Authors that have been paid out or will be paid out moving forward will need to complete the Amazon Tax Interview process. |
| 16:30.16 | znf | Why do we Europeans have to bother? |
| 16:30.49 | znf | Especially if we don't really get much, as nevcairiel mentioned - it used to be a limit or something? |
| 16:31.03 | Flamegoat | Because we're a US based company and we have to report any money that we pay out to the government. IRS requirements. |
| 16:31.19 | nevcairiel | Flamegoat: fix the website so I can actually fill it out, I get an immediate error 500 |
| 16:31.35 | znf | Any reason why Curse didn't have to do that before? |
| 16:31.43 | znf | Especially for low amounts? |
| 16:31.44 | Flamegoat | I wasn't aware of that - can you pm me with details? Or get a ticket going at support.curse.com |
| 16:32.00 | nevcairiel | What details? :) |
| 16:32.05 | nevcairiel | I log in, it errors |
| 16:32.08 | nevcairiel | Nothing more |
| 16:32.09 | Flamegoat | Honestly, I cannot say znf. I don't pretend to understand tax law :[ |
| 16:32.36 | nevcairiel | BRB food |
| 16:32.39 | Flamegoat | We're only getting reports about that from users using IE11, which at the moment we can't support entirely due to issues with how the Twitch login system works :\ |
| 16:32.56 | nevcairiel | I tried chrome and edge |
| 16:33.28 | znf | works for me, nevcairiel |
| 16:33.28 | Flamegoat | Okay - I'd love to see if we can get that reproducing on our end. I'll look into your account details to make sure it's nothing there, and then I'll reach out for more info. |
| 16:33.50 | Flamegoat | Unacceptable if you guys can't log in :\ |
| 16:34.06 | znf | also, really https://i.imgur.com/qq2DNfi.png |
| 16:34.14 | znf | why is UTF-8 hard? |
| 16:34.34 | nevcairiel | My wowace and main Amazon account also use the same email |
| 16:35.43 | znf | https://i.imgur.com/Tqnq119.png - where's the "human" option? |
| 16:36.00 | znf | oh, first one |
| 16:36.01 | znf | my bad |
| 16:36.22 | znf | ok, this shit is... too much |
| 16:49.36 | Flamegoat | Sorry guys. Tax is never fun. |
| 16:50.11 | foxlit | Flamegoat: you're sending those emails to the wrong addresses. |
| 16:51.02 | foxlit | (specifically, the addresses associated with the legacy curseforge/wowace accounts, which can no longer be edited, instead of the address of the merged twitch account) |
| 16:58.58 | harl | why do these even still exist? |
| 17:04.05 | foxlit | [the entire thing is also rather pointless while the store requires 2FA auth from accounts with no associated 2FA] |
| 17:04.23 | Flamegoat | @foxlit we have to. Those are the emails attached to the Curse account that signed up. I'm working right now to find a resolution for those that no longer have access to those accounts. |
| 17:05.12 | foxlit | Er, I'm reasonably certain the twitch authorization process gave you the twitch email address. |
| 17:05.49 | Flamegoat | Not what I mean - the email on the Curse account that accepted the Author Rewards. |
| 17:08.55 | foxlit | I'm not sure I see how that is significant unless your account/author rewards system is rather insane. |
| 17:09.58 | nevcairiel | It probably is |
| 17:19.40 | Flamegoat | We maintain the old Curse data as well as the Twitch merge information. We do not pull that info, it gets checked on Auth (since Twitch handles all account data and authentication now) |
| 17:22.13 | foxlit | If I create a new account using twitch now, you'll never be able to send me email? |
| 17:25.14 | foxlit | (or will it ask me for a separate email address that I'll never be able to change?) |
| 17:29.02 | Flamegoat | No, in that case we pull the email - since you aren't a legacy Curse user. |
| 17:29.42 | Flamegoat | If we had pulled the Twitch email for legacy users, your notifications would have suddenly started going to a potentially new email that you never gave us. |
| 17:30.10 | foxlit | er, I gave you that address when I authorized your app to use the twitch account. |
| 17:30.25 | Flamegoat | Yes, of course, but you understand that. We have hundreds of thousands of end users. |
| 17:30.32 | Flamegoat | So we wanted as little friction as possible. |
| 17:31.51 | foxlit | I also expect you to update that address on each login, because otherwise you're going to end up sending emails into the void in the future. |
| 17:34.19 | Flamegoat | iirc its updated regularly. |
| 17:34.52 | Flamegoat | Admittedly, we have a lot of work to do on that process still. |
| 18:02.21 | znf | hey Gnarfoz https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/thY8Lq9G/image.png |
| 18:02.35 | foxlit | (and you should either also do this for legacy accounts, or return the ability to edit the legacy email address. I mean, right now, you have *repository credentials* that cannot in any way be changed by your users.) |
| 18:12.32 | nevcairiel | the legacy info should really stop being used for anything at some point |
| 18:19.32 | znf | Yup. Now to push changes, you need a OTP that is send to your email |
| 18:19.37 | znf | Valid for 5 minutes |
| 18:19.50 | znf | Sent* |
| 18:28.59 | Dessa | is the tax thing even relevant for non-us citizens? |
| 18:29.24 | znf | he said yes |
| 18:29.34 | foxlit | yes, unless you want to pay US taxes on top of your own. |
| 18:31.00 | Dessa | ok then i'll need to figure out how to change my email address. i don't really want to have 2 amazon accounts. |
| 18:31.32 | foxlit | (although it doesn't actually give you the option to just accept the US witholding, so it's more like "yes, unless you don't want curse's cash") |
| 18:32.32 | Dessa | i didn't ever got any points anyway. |
| 18:33.11 | foxlit | then I would assume just ignoring this until you accumulate enough points to care about is an option |
| 18:33.37 | nevcairiel | in the past it was also only required if you used the paypal option at all, not sure if that changed |
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| 19:06.02 | Gnarfoz | I've never answered this, and I'm not about to create an amazon.com account for it, either |
| 19:06.13 | Gnarfoz | the only thing I ever grabbed were amazon.de gift cards, so... whatever |
| 19:07.00 | Gnarfoz | my few points are expiring since I can't even access the store, and I'm not getting new ones any time soon unless I wake up tomorrow with the best addon idea ever in my head |
| 19:08.01 | nevcairiel | your amazon.de account works on .com last i checked |
| 19:08.11 | nevcairiel | also you n ever ordered something from amazon.com before? |
| 19:11.26 | Stanzilla | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q33N833aPX4 |
| 19:11.28 | Stanzilla | OMG THE HYPE |
| 19:12.37 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: a) I know, but that's not associated with my curse account b) I'm not sure, I don't think so. either way, wrong account :D |
| 19:12.38 | Megalon | how will they to the battle royale thing |
| 19:13.19 | nevcairiel | whats so hype about that, graphics look rather bad for 2018 and the trailer doesnt inspire really inspire me much |
| 19:13.25 | nevcairiel | -inspire |
| 19:13.34 | Megalon | i was hoping for the deadpool 2 trailer |
| 19:14.01 | Stanzilla | serious sam games are always super fun in coop |
| 19:46.55 | nebula | they only need to report it as income if you make over 600$ in the year, the old system prompted you to fill out the appropriate form when you hit that, now they're just making everyone do it |
| 19:57.32 | nebula | and I still can't load the taxcentral site with any browser |
| 19:57.46 | nevcairiel | do you also get the 500 page immediately? |
| 19:58.31 | nevcairiel | I login and then immediately i get an error page |
| 19:58.38 | nebula | mobile it let me login then displayed an error page, just white screened at home |
| 19:58.49 | nevcairiel | Flamegoat: ^ i'm not alone |
| 20:16.36 | Flamegoat | We're aware and working. Updates will be on CurseForge twitter if you don't hear from me - I'm trying to keep up with a lot of communities :[ sorry |
| 20:17.38 | nevcairiel | curseforge has a twitter? |
| 20:17.57 | Flamegoat | Ouch. :[ |
| 20:18.04 | Flamegoat | It's @CurseForge |
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| 21:08.14 | quiescens | o.o |
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| 21:48.58 | znf | *shakes fist at windows10* |
| 21:49.03 | znf | screwed by the windows update, again |
| 21:49.12 | Stanzilla | what did it do |
| 21:49.52 | znf | rebooted! |
| 21:49.59 | znf | while I was in the shower :D |
| 21:50.03 | znf | sneaky motherfucker |
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| 21:51.05 | znf | I'm not even sure it installed something |
| 21:51.32 | znf | https://i.imgur.com/mSG3El4.png |
| 21:54.04 | znf | I don't even have silverlight installed anymore |
| 21:54.07 | znf | or Visual Studio 2010 |
| 21:56.38 | Stanzilla | are you sure |
| 22:02.29 | Stanzilla | znf: https://github.com/Microsoft/VisualStudioUninstaller/releases |
| 22:10.46 | Stanzilla | Windows Defender Firewall now supports Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL) processes |
| 22:10.48 | Stanzilla | uhh |
| 22:14.20 | nebula | why uh? |
| 22:15.53 | Stanzilla | never thought about doing that |
| 22:18.06 | nebula | probably because you're not doing silly things like using wsl as a full Linux server |
| 22:19.34 | Stanzilla | probably |
| 22:19.50 | znf | could we get iptables on windows, instead? :D |
| 22:28.43 | znf | >tv mindhunter |
| 22:28.45 | Catal1na | Mindhunter 2017 (Running). Previous Episode: [1x10] Episode 10 on 2017-10-13 (046 months). Next Episode: not yet scheduled. http://www.tvmaze.com/shows/10822/mindhunter |
| 22:28.46 | znf | you excited, Stanzilla? |
| 22:33.03 | nebula | wtb more than 8 eps |
| 22:33.27 | znf | still haven't finished lost in space |
| 22:39.35 | Stanzilla | I already watched mindhunter yeah |
| 22:39.37 | Stanzilla | was good |
| 22:42.49 | nevcairiel | i'm sure he is trying to suggest that a new season starts soon |
| 22:44.44 | Stanzilla | ext Episode: not yet scheduled |
| 22:46.31 | *** join/#wowace Ressy (Ressy@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/ARL/Ressy) |
| 22:46.36 | Stanzilla | znf: https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/overwatch/t/overwatch-ptr-patch-notes-april-18-2018/72390/1 |
| 22:46.55 | Stanzilla | no longer getting oneshotted by random scatters yay |
| 22:48.37 | znf | thank fuck |
| 22:49.14 | nebula | they just finished casting for s2 of mindhunter |
| 22:50.01 | znf | >Projectile speed increased from 85 to 100 |
| 22:50.02 | znf | oh |
| 22:50.34 | znf | nooo, junkrat nerfs :( |
| 22:56.23 | Stanzilla | koreans are still exploiting in ranked |
| 22:56.25 | Stanzilla | pretty good |
| 22:56.34 | Stanzilla | they are playing the event roboters in normal matches |
| 23:07.02 | znf | huh? |
| 23:15.26 | Stanzilla | https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/8d647c/somebody_playing_as_talon_assualt_tank_from/ |
