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00:15.08nevcairielrecent fritz.box updates were all just Mesh or other weird features i dont use
00:15.34Gnarfozyeah, seems that way
00:15.45nevcairielanyway not sure what seems so "big" about that update
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00:21.01znfStanzilla, ok, so, not sure if that got trough
00:21.12znfbut what do I do if I picked up the hit-all-heroes quest
00:21.20znfbut enemy team has abathur? :-|
00:21.24nevcairielfind him!
00:21.43znfI did
00:21.45znfhe's in the base...
00:21.52nevcairielso win the game and tag him
00:21.53znflike, spawn point
00:21.59Stanzillayeah don't do that with aba :D
00:23.00znfIT DOESN"T WORK
00:23.27nevcairielso finish the game and do another, jeez stop being a moron already
00:23.34znfhttps://i.imgur.com/h91BBs6.jpg
00:23.35znf>_<
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08:09.39bluspacecow@quiescens I have acquired pants!
08:11.01Megalonwhat a lifechanging moment, congratulation
09:21.12Phixionconsider lede/openwrt Stanzilla
09:22.47PhixionfritzOS is garbage
09:23.36Phixionfreetz isnt the pinacle of development either
09:30.00winkspeaking of, anyone ever tried the AVM FRITZ!WLAN Repeater 450E 450MBit or something?
09:31.24winkI kind of have flaky (high ping) wifi in parts of the apartment. and putting cat5 is not an option
09:47.01nevcairielPhixion: for pure APs those may be options, but I wouldnt trust some project like that to run my VDSL vectoring modem =p
09:47.13Gnarfozwifi repeaters that aren't themselves fed by ethernet will halve your bandwidth anyway
09:47.47Gnarfozalso, TFW you have to reboot just because you plugged in a new keyboard
09:47.58nevcairielwhats this, the days of PS2?
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09:50.32Gnarfozbroken usb hub/extender in the docking station or something
09:50.59Gnarfozit just dies after some number of plug/unplug events
10:17.17Gnarfoznevcairiel: taking bets on Quassel 0.12.5 not materializing this month
10:18.55nevcairielits supposed to,  but who knows
10:26.06nevcairielnot sure the feature you're looking f or was ported to the release branch tho, its usually only fixes, not features in point releases
10:28.07Gnarfozare they still using trac?
10:28.24nevcairielnever have i dont think
10:28.31nevcairielits far worse then that, its redmine
10:28.34Gnarfoz:D
10:31.32Gnarfozindeed does not appear to be in here
10:31.34Gnarfoz*the
10:31.36Gnarfozre
10:31.37Gnarfozwtf
10:32.24Gnarfoz(git branch -r --contains b5dfd31e3d1ad7ca4bfe8262b62be259f6dc786a)
10:32.40nevcairielthe hash would change if its cherry-picked, is it smart enough for that
10:33.10Gnarfozno idea
10:33.27Gnarfozthat's the hash from 27 days ago when it was merged into master
10:33.37GnarfozI know the feature is far older than that
10:33.52nevcairielyeah it was in master  for longer
10:34.21nevcairielhttps://github.com/quassel/quassel/commit/b5dfd31e3d1ad7ca4bfe8262b62be259f6dc786a that is something else entirely, where did you even get that
10:34.30Gnarfozvia git blame on the reload feature
10:34.43nevcairielmaybe it was touched in that
10:34.52Gnarfozyeah was probably just moved around
10:35.16Gnarfozhttps://github.com/quassel/quassel/commit/25a3ae50ac0d9835283e4f5f10fcfcc10ed5575d is probably the right one
10:35.41Gnarfoz(still not in origin/0.12)
10:36.09nevcairielseems to be in 0.12
10:36.19Gnarfozjust git things
10:36.32nevcairielhttps://github.com/quassel/quassel/commit/4b22388af4ceb1c6c24c8c4436283c1e3c33dd1f
10:36.40nevcairielthere is branch version
10:37.15Gnarfozyeah
10:37.28Gnarfozbut how do you get from the original commit id to the cherry-picked one? you probably don't?
10:39.13nevcairielyeah dont think so outside of comparing commit subject or something
10:40.00nevcairielbasically, cherry-pick is bad
10:40.16nevcairielideally you have feature branches for everything and merge them to whichever places they need to be at
10:40.29nevcairielbut of course most people dont follow that strict git pattern
10:40.37Gnarfozhttps://stackoverflow.com/questions/2922652/git-is-there-a-way-to-figure-out-where-a-commit-was-cherry-picked-from makes me sad
10:40.38Gnarfoz:D
10:40.55Gnarfozguess it's simply not an intended feature of git
10:41.15nevcairielfinding out where its from is not that hard, most people leave the original hash in the commit message (git adds it there)
10:41.23nevcairielbutt where it was all cherry-picked to is the real challenge
10:42.24Gnarfoz(it adds it with -x, hope that's become default by now)
10:42.45nevcairielat least thats what you see people using anyway
10:42.47Gnarfozif it does, you can just search the commit messages for the hash, but yeah, it's all rather sketchy
10:56.01Gnarfozsome people will believe anything https://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/1088984-russian-cyber-attck/
10:57.04nevcairielof course
10:59.30GnarfozI bet they found Putin's ID in Blizzard's data center
10:59.50Gnarfozmust have been him, he personally authorized lag for your raid ^^
10:59.55Phixionsee nevcairiel I feel vice versa
11:00.43nevcairieltheir featured device list is extremely light on AVM hardware as well Phixion
11:00.55PhixionI literally run it as my vdsl vectoring modem only no routing/firewalling on this
11:00.58Gnarfozthey probably use the same closed-source driver blob anyway (also, didn't AVM close up their hardware against custom OS's?)
11:00.59Phixionthzat might be the case
11:01.25Phixionsupports mine, thats what counts
11:01.27Phixion:)
11:01.45nevcairieli dont have any need to change anything either way, it works perfeclty for what I want it doing
11:02.46nebulaoh, so the ssl cert update on hup in quassel as of 0.12?
11:03.23Phixionnot a fan of dsl/switch/router combi devices
11:03.29Gnarfoznebula: 0.12.5
11:03.35Phixionlunchtime it is
11:03.39nebulaoh, boo
11:03.47Gnarfozwhich finally has a release date
11:03.54nevcairielsort of :p
11:03.55Gnarfoz("this month")
11:04.29Gnarfozand 0.13 will switch to Qt5, if I read that right
11:04.30nebulathey waiting for the 1 year anniversary of 0.12.4? >.>
11:04.52Gnarfozit wouldn't be far-fetched to assume 0.12.4 was from 2012-04
11:05.00nevcairielits from 2016
11:05.07nebula2 year*
11:05.28nebulawhere are you reading a roadmap for it?
11:05.32Gnarfoz#quassel
11:05.37nebulaah
11:05.42nevcairielthats actually next week
11:05.47nevcairiel24 april
11:06.06Gnarfoztime to get off IRC, I wanted to get some work done today /s
11:07.32Gnarfozhttps://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/apr/16/scientists-accidentally-create-mutant-enzyme-that-eats-plastic-bottles I swear this is becoming the new "a breakthrough in battery capacity/recharge speed/recharge cycles has been found by researchers!"
11:08.34nebula(something something graphene)
11:08.50nevcairielgraphene bottles?
11:09.14nebulagraphene enzyme to eat the bottle, obviously
11:10.46Gnarfozmeh, where's funkeh
11:10.51Gnarfozhttps://kb.vmware.com/s/article/53169 for later ^^
11:11.08nevcairielenjoy the time when he aint there =p
11:11.34nevcairielbut also driven by PCI, i see
11:43.37FiskerDisablement ftw
11:59.57Phixionhey Fisker
12:00.06Phixioni
12:03.43znfBlizzard is really trying hard with that overwatch league
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12:06.21GnarfozI like that they still show the popup telling me to check my browser's compatibility, even though they already turned off the older tls versions over a month ago
12:06.40Gnarfozalso, speaking of battery breakthroughs: https://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Leistungssprung-in-der-Akku-Technik-Silizium-Anoden-fuer-BMW-Elektroautos-4025051.html -_-
12:06.50Gnarfozznf: they better, nobody else seems to
12:07.06Fiskerhey Phixion
12:07.07Fiskeri
12:07.30znfthat's my impression, too, Gnarfoz
12:07.39znfI got that mail from Twitch
12:07.50znfsubscribe to get premium shit about... overwatch league?
12:07.53znfniggawatt?
12:09.02Gnarfoznever know who's behind such cross-promotions, might have been Twitch's idea for all we know
12:10.39znf>Submit questions in chat to the pros during post-match interviews
12:10.42znfwho even cares about such things?
12:10.47znfor:
12:10.47znf>Access Passholder-only private chat rooms where you can talk with others about the match
12:10.50znf...?!?
12:14.09nebulaemotes and skins! everything else is irrelevant
12:15.20znf"early access"
12:15.23znffor $19.99, I can wait
12:15.31znfor, rather, $29.99
12:16.28znfIn other news, I installed CoreELEC on my Amlogic S905X tv-box last night (was running Android)
12:16.38znfand with Kodi alpha I was able to get Netflix working
12:16.48znfthat is - streaming the netflix content inside Kodi
12:17.12nebula"battle passes" are like the value-add hotness now, dota has had one forever that used to be tied to ti, fortnite has one, ow wants in on that shit
12:17.30znfno external apps required, not leaving kodi for content, shit just works, technically
12:17.37znfthe UX is not so good at the moment, tough
12:17.43nevcairielin SD probably =p
12:17.44znfbut hey, 720p inside kodi on a $40 tv box
12:17.47znfno, 720p
12:17.54nevcairielthats almost SD
12:18.04nebulashould be considered sd
12:18.05znfmy android box gets 540p...
12:18.20nevcairielthats because you buy the absolute crap
12:18.31znfthere are no actual choices
12:18.37nebulastreaming sticks are like 40$ and do 4k
12:18.42znfFireTVs are crap
12:18.52nevcairielthey can do  4K, yours does 540p
12:18.55nevcairielwhats the real crap now
12:19.01znfby streaming sticks, you mean just Chromecast
12:19.08nebulai ran kodi on a firestick that played 4k video fine
12:19.10znfwhich only does 720p netflix, afaik?
12:19.17znfnebula, mine plays 4k without issues, too
12:19.19znfthe problem is netflix
12:19.25znfand their DRM
12:19.35nebulanetflix does 4k, too
12:20.02znfalso, under linux (CoreELEC), it actually plays HEVC, 10bit content fine, without framedrops
12:20.10znfsame soc under android sucks balls for some reasons
12:20.49znfthe Fire Stick doesn't do netflix 4K, nebula
12:22.24znfin the realm of android tv boxes, there's not many choices that do Netflix 4K - https://help.netflix.com/en/node/13444
12:22.36nevcairielthe new FireTV sticks sure doe 4K netflix
12:22.58znftheir list doesn't say so
12:23.28znfI don't have one to test, tough
12:23.51nevcairielguess its technically not a stick, but its small enough that they could've really made it one
12:24.12znf"stick" implies the older model, I know I'm being pedantic, but it's just a different model :P
12:24.14nevcairielits a small rectangle with a cable =p
12:24.16znfanyway, you can test with https://www.netflix.com/title/80018499
12:24.22nebulastick/whatever
12:24.41nebulait's not a little box that sits on the cabinet
12:24.59znfit's a little box that sits behind the tv? :D
12:25.13znfAnyway, this is the only one that does 4K Netflix: https://www.amazon.com/all-new-amazon-fire-tv-4k-uhd-streaming-media-player/dp/B01N32NCPM
12:25.33nevcairieland you wonder why people hate you, pedantic assholes are not likeable :p
12:26.44znfThen, according to the netflix list, other than custom provider boxes, you have very few options - Roku does one that works, apparently, Sagem (didn't even know they still existed), the gaming consoles and then there's the good shit like nVidia Shield
12:26.56znfand that's a bit on the expensive side if you don't really need their gaming streaming features
12:27.17znfI find 200€ just to watch netflix a bit expensive
12:28.34znfoh, also, to seal the deal: This product only ships to Germany and Austria. Most content and services will not work if your country of residence is not Germany nor Austria. Learn more
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12:28.42znfI couldn't even order an Amazon Fire TV directly
12:29.26nevcairielthats not our problem, we live in countries amazon ships to :D
12:29.57znfWasn't there an european initiative that forces all content providers to offer their content to all EU member states without boundaries? Shouldn't that apply to this kind of hardware, which I'm presuming that has this shipping restriction because of the content?
12:30.12znfI vaguely remember something about a proposition like that
12:30.49znfhttps://ec.europa.eu/digital-single-market/en/cross-border-portability-online-content-services
12:30.50znfmeh
12:30.56znfnot broad enough, apparently
13:47.47quiescensmoo
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14:53.09ls-moo ):3
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15:41.40StanzillaI have baby bananas
15:42.10Stanzillaand before Megalon says it, yes more than one
15:42.49Megalonwhat
15:43.01Stanzillacome on
15:43.09Stanzillayou're letting me down really hard
15:43.44Megalonbananas implies >1
15:44.07Stanzillafacts are not usually what prevent you from making bad jokes :<
15:44.17MegalonWHAT¿
15:44.22Megalonrude
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15:46.45znfbanana for scale, Stanzilla? https://i.imgur.com/H455SL8.png
15:58.51Stanzillaznf: sure https://photos.app.goo.gl/TMdduFm2yq3uLC7m2
15:59.13znfwhy is your banana on sandwich?
15:59.28StanzillaNEXT TO a sandwich
15:59.31Stanzillaspace problems
15:59.40nebulaslice thinner you mad man
15:59.55Stanzillathose are rolls not bread
16:00.06nebulathe cucumber!
16:00.11Stanzillaoh that
16:00.12Stanzillanever
16:00.18Stanzillalove that shit
16:00.32Megalon:S
16:00.44Stanzillano cucumber joke?
16:00.48Stanzillayou disappoint once again, Megalon
16:00.57nebulai mean, you can put the same amount on, but shit, eating that would annoy me
16:01.25Stanzillawas fine
16:01.28Stanzillahave a big mouth
16:01.33Stanzilla(3rd chance, Megalon)
16:03.09Megalondu hast doofe ohrn!
16:03.16Stanzillaja okay
16:03.49Stanzillato buy https://www.stardock.com/products/groupy/ or not
16:04.03StanzillaRS5 is only in half a year and I like tabs now :<
16:04.08Stanzillagot a special offer for half price
16:04.54nebulawtf, it's 10$ just buy it
16:05.01nebulai thought it was gonna be like 100+ or some shit
16:05.16Stanzilla5$
16:05.20Megalonhe stashed on those cucumbers
16:05.22Megalonmoney is tight
16:06.00nebulai thought their full suite was like 150$ back in the day but maybe i'm just crazy
16:06.12Stanzillaprobably crazy
16:06.15Stanzillathe new apps are all 10
16:06.54Stanzillaand if you start a trial, you get special offers until it ends
16:06.57Stanzillaat the end its half off
16:07.22znf<Stanzilla> to buy https://www.stardock.com/products/groupy/ or not
16:07.24znfwhy?
16:07.30Stanzilla[18:03:59] Stanzilla: RS5 is only in half a year and I like tabs now :<
16:07.37znfRS5?
16:07.42Stanzillathe next windows update
16:07.58znfah
16:07.58Stanzillatheir paypal checkout is broken
16:07.58Stanzillarip
16:10.20Stanzillanebula: Object Desktop™ Customize your PC with this suite of desktop enhancement programs. Over a dozen applications & utilities included. orginal $49.99  sale $29.99 USD
16:10.34nebulai saw, why i said "back in the day"
16:10.39znfthe whole object desktop is $29.99?
16:10.43znfforevă?
16:10.52Stanzilladunno?
16:12.27StanzillaI should update Windows but am afraid everything breaks again :<
16:13.52znfStanzilla, what I'm asking is - how does their package work?
16:13.59znfyou buy it once in full, and you get all new goodies for free?
16:15.07Stanzilladunno
16:15.10StanzillaAccess updates and betas for included software for one year.
16:15.10Stanzilla<PROTECTED>
16:15.25Stanzillaso 30 per year?
16:15.47znfah :-/
16:15.50znfdoesn't justify it
16:16.32Stanzillaonly want start10 and groupy
16:16.43znfI already have Start10
16:17.02znfYour existing product registration has been verified.
16:17.03znfUpgrade to Object Desktop for only $24.99 !
16:17.03znfmeh
16:18.57Stanzillaoh hey, now their paypal flow reverted to old  design from 2 years ago and it worked now
16:18.58Stanzillagreat
16:20.43znfyou know what's great?
16:20.52Stanzillababa bananas
16:20.54Stanzilla+y
16:20.54Megalonthe chinese wall?
16:21.04znfmy script that usually checks exim queue size on my shared server is somehow broken
16:21.12znfand one of my servers was starting to be slow
16:21.16znf...and now I checked my exim queue
16:21.20znf220k messages :-|
16:21.56znf...generated by a single domain :(
16:21.58Megalondelete them, problem gone :)
16:23.02znfI am...
16:23.08znfbut I have to group trough all of them first
16:23.15znfso I delete only the ones from that user/domain
16:23.25znfgrep*
16:23.26nebulanot, drop all of them
16:23.29nebulanope*
16:23.57Megalongrep *
16:23.58Megalon:)
16:26.42znf142k/226k
16:27.04Megalonyou should do that readmessages --really-fast * thing
16:27.14znfwonder if I can just delete the files from disk
16:27.25znfor I have to do it with the exim tools
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