| 11:51.08 | *** join/#wowace purl (ibot@rikers.org) |
| 11:51.08 | *** topic/#wowace is https://wowace.com/ | 7.3.x ToC: 70300 | https://wowace.com/paste/ | http://lua.org | This channel is logged, via purl | Official support path https://support.curse.com |
| 12:20.09 | nevcairiel | you do that to us 24 hours a day, so sounds fair |
| 12:21.45 | znf | nevcairiel, but I love you guys! |
| 13:11.37 | Stanzilla | https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft-demotes-windows-10-redstone-4-build-17133-rtm-status |
| 13:11.38 | Stanzilla | xD |
| 13:24.56 | *** join/#wowace Andols (~yaaic@m83-185-245-173.cust.tele2.se) |
| 13:27.38 | Funkeh` | hopefully that blocking bug is a lack of DNS over HTTPS support |
| 13:29.38 | pompy1 | https://www.wunderground.com/weather-radar/united-states/nj/newark/ewr/?region=bgm nasty |
| 13:52.36 | nevcairiel | must be annoying to be one of those that have installed a so-called rtm build before, do they even offer a clear upgrade path from that |
| 13:59.53 | Stanzilla | not annoying at all |
| 13:59.58 | Stanzilla | upgrades just fine |
| 14:01.07 | nevcairiel | except that OS upgrades are always annoying |
| 14:01.33 | nevcairiel | i wonder why they didnt just patch it though |
| 14:01.36 | Stanzilla | not really |
| 14:01.38 | nevcairiel | running a new build seems extreme |
| 14:01.44 | Stanzilla | works fine mostly, if not for insiders upgrades |
| 14:02.22 | Stanzilla | insider upgrades destroy reg keys for me |
| 14:02.24 | Stanzilla | that was super fun |
| 14:02.39 | Stanzilla | every update I had to set up google drive and onedrive and all my reg tweaks again |
| 14:03.22 | nevcairiel | my gdrive for some reason just died recently |
| 14:03.32 | nevcairiel | i only noticed this week and had to basically completely reinstall it |
| 14:04.25 | Stanzilla | randomly? or after an update/upgrade? |
| 14:05.00 | nevcairiel | definitely no OS upgrade since I didnt do any of those, who knows what otherwise happened |
| 14:05.04 | Stanzilla | the new backup and sync clietn is super buggy for me anyway. I'm in contact with a google engineer and have to send them ETW traces of everything, hope that helps one da |
| 14:05.06 | Stanzilla | y |
| 14:05.36 | nevcairiel | the client was also blocking system shutdown for a while and had to be force killed |
| 14:05.38 | nevcairiel | but that stopped |
| 14:05.44 | nevcairiel | well maybe because it didnt work anymore |
| 14:05.44 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 14:05.47 | Stanzilla | like, when I open the config menu (which does not have a taskbar icon which sucks hardcore) it freezes for 1 minute ü |
| 14:09.47 | Stanzilla | I would have switched off gdrive without thinking if any of the other cloud drives had a 100gb plan |
| 14:15.14 | nevcairiel | onedrive has 1TB of storage with a office 365 subscription |
| 14:16.34 | Stanzilla | so does dropbox |
| 14:16.36 | Stanzilla | but I want 100gb |
| 14:16.43 | Stanzilla | well actually 200gb would be nice |
| 14:17.23 | starfox | you know that 1tb is more than 100gb, even though 100 > 1 |
| 14:17.45 | Stanzilla | you know that more costs more and I want 100gb because i only need 100gb |
| 14:17.52 | Funkeh` | =D |
| 14:17.54 | starfox | but more is gooder |
| 14:17.57 | nevcairiel | man dropbox is expensive, with onedrive i get office for free and its still cheaper |
| 14:18.25 | Funkeh` | 100gb and libreoffice does me fine |
| 14:19.41 | nevcairiel | i really dont use any office software, but just saying thats what you get |
| 14:19.48 | nevcairiel | if you wanted a 1tb plan |
| 14:20.27 | Stanzilla | gdrive 1tb is 9,99/month as well |
| 14:20.49 | nevcairiel | 99,99 a year, but yeah |
| 14:21.29 | Stanzilla | dropbox 8.25/mo |
| 14:21.51 | Stanzilla | so only a few cents cheaper |
| 14:22.25 | nevcairiel | yeah and onedrive with office is 69â¬/yr |
| 14:22.46 | nevcairiel | or 7/mo if you dont want yearly |
| 14:22.52 | nevcairiel | much cheaper then the others |
| 14:23.10 | nevcairiel | either onedrive sucks, or its just the better offer |
| 14:23.29 | Stanzilla | onedrive has the placeholder feature that I like |
| 14:56.01 | *** join/#wowace Andols2 (~yaaic@78-70-44-4-no170.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 15:24.16 | pompy1 | they all suck |
| 15:26.43 | starfox | your files into the cloud |
| 15:26.47 | starfox | yea, that's what they doo |
| 16:25.03 | *** join/#wowace Seerah (~umsin@2601:3c2:80:1380:64f9:56d6:4219:6d7f) |
| 16:40.07 | znf | great, now I have to move. again. |
| 16:40.11 | znf | fuck this life |
| 16:52.11 | Stanzilla | why |
| 17:02.07 | znf | landlord got another offer |
| 17:02.16 | znf | and... he tought I'd be ok with it, because he's offering me another apt. |
| 17:02.22 | znf | ...but I don't like that other place at all |
| 17:02.59 | nevcairiel | your country really needs better tenant protection |
| 17:03.48 | znf | it does, yes |
| 17:04.22 | znf | I'm so pissed off... I was comfortable here |
| 17:04.25 | znf | I've no idea what to do now |
| 17:07.07 | *** join/#wowace wink__ (~wink@unconfigu.red) |
| 17:07.12 | wink__ | heya, anyone running Windows 8 and could give me the output of $PSVersionTable.PSVersion.ToString() and [Net.ServicePointManager]::SecurityProtocol ? (just paste them into powershell, 2 sep. commands) |
| 17:10.37 | *** join/#wowace harl (harl@unaffiliated/harl) |
| 17:11.06 | nevcairiel | i only have 8.1, does that count |
| 17:12.23 | wink__ | sure |
| 17:12.27 | nevcairiel | in any case: 4.0 and "Ssl3, Tls" |
| 17:12.32 | wink__ | thanks! |
| 17:12.36 | wink__ | not good, but thanks :P |
| 17:12.41 | nevcairiel | note that you can actually install PS5 on 8 if you want to |
| 17:12.44 | wink__ | github wont let you download shit via ps |
| 17:12.58 | wink__ | because Tls seems to be TLS 1.1 |
| 17:13.13 | nevcairiel | tls 1.0 is being discontinued by many places these days |
| 17:13.33 | nevcairiel | although my windows 10 box also only says Ssl3, Tls |
| 17:13.37 | nevcairiel | seems to be flexible :p |
| 17:14.00 | wink__ | yikes |
| 17:14.15 | wink__ | thanks for that hint :) |
| 17:16.11 | Funkeh` | maybe places? only heard of github doing it |
| 17:16.17 | Funkeh` | many* |
| 17:17.39 | nevcairiel | everything that cares about PCI Compliance basically has to |
| 17:18.07 | nevcairiel | not sure what exactly the timeline or that is |
| 17:18.32 | Funkeh` | one would think after 1.3 is finished |
| 17:18.59 | nevcairiel | we have 1.2 in the meantime which is still quite the upgrade over 1.0 :p |
| 17:19.10 | Stanzilla | I think actually installing PS 5.1 fixes the TLS problem |
| 17:19.16 | Stanzilla | it supports that, no? |
| 17:19.41 | nevcairiel | i would have thought it just ties into windows crypto fuinctions which support TLS 1.2 anyway on 8 |
| 17:21.02 | Stanzilla | https://support.microsoft.com/kb/2919355 |
| 17:21.14 | Stanzilla | nice link, ms |
| 17:21.26 | Stanzilla | https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/mt767781(v=vs.85).aspx |
| 17:21.45 | wink__ | my win10 also shows Ssl, Tls |
| 17:22.00 | wink__ | so maybe further testing is needed which version that is. |
| 17:22.25 | wink__ | god I hate windows so much. couldn't they just ship something like curl that just works |
| 17:22.42 | nevcairiel | actually they started doing that |
| 17:22.43 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 17:22.53 | nevcairiel | but it p robably still hooks into into windows crypto |
| 17:23.09 | wink__ | I need it on all "supported" versions, incl win7 ;) |
| 17:23.12 | wink__ | not in 5 years |
| 17:23.59 | nevcairiel | curl is in 1803, shipping to a windows 10 system near you "soon" |
| 17:24.09 | nevcairiel | (also tar) |
| 17:24.55 | Funkeh` | both are part mainstream support, 7 ends extended support in less than 2 years and no one uses 8 |
| 17:25.04 | Funkeh` | s/part/past |
| 17:25.17 | Stanzilla | the problem you are having is their aliases, wink__ |
| 17:25.26 | Stanzilla | they aliased curl in PS to some PS construct |
| 17:25.35 | Stanzilla | that does not work like curl at all |
| 17:25.55 | wink__ | i know, diff. problem :) |
| 17:25.59 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 17:26.48 | Stanzilla | first think I do when setting up a ps probile, remove-item alias:curl :D |
| 17:30.34 | *** join/#wowace stolenlegacy (~stolenleg@unaffiliated/stolenlegacy) |
| 17:49.17 | *** join/#wowace stolenlegacy (~stolenleg@unaffiliated/stolenlegacy) |
| 17:55.59 | *** join/#wowace Gnarfoz (smallbrain@WoWUIDev/WowAce/Gnarfoz) |
| 18:01.10 | *** join/#wowace Trela (Erza@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fea1:65e1) |
| 18:05.49 | *** join/#wowace Marla (~textual@139-60-195-128.uinta.ngl.ninja) |
| 18:18.58 | *** join/#wowace Gnarfoz (smallbrain@WoWUIDev/WowAce/Gnarfoz) |
| 18:20.33 | Gnarfoz | :S quasselcore |
| 18:21.52 | Stanzilla | oh so you are alive after all |
| 18:22.41 | Gnarfoz | hm? ^^ |
| 19:03.38 | Gnarfoz | I should have reconnected twice today, but that's it |
| 19:03.52 | Megalon | you reconnected with all our hearts |
| 19:03.55 | Megalon | <3 |
| 19:03.55 | Gnarfoz | no idea why I still hadn't uncommented the Quassel specific sections of my dehydrated hook script |
| 19:08.16 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: you didn't answer my question yesterday :p |
| 19:08.30 | Gnarfoz | *scrolls up* |
| 19:08.44 | Gnarfoz | only a few |
| 19:08.54 | Gnarfoz | not to mention probably half of them are just SD anyway |
| 19:09.09 | Gnarfoz | (half of all, not half of those I have) |
| 19:09.13 | *** join/#wowace Seerah (~umsin@2601:3c2:80:1380:64f9:56d6:4219:6d7f) |
| 19:09.35 | Stanzilla | ok want some of mine then or do you not care about specials? |
| 19:09.57 | Gnarfoz | I've seen all the ones up to wherever I stopped watching Dr Who, so no, thanks |
| 19:10.30 | Gnarfoz | (i.e. I watched the early ones on vk.com or some shit and the HD ones I have or watched on Amazon) |
| 19:10.53 | Gnarfoz | I remember now, I watched a bunch of it on Amazon, that's why I don't have those on disk |
| 19:11.21 | Gnarfoz | speaking of Amazon, time to fit Bosch s04 into my viewing plans |
| 19:14.12 | Gnarfoz | https://i.imgur.com/WxEAL0v.png I only have 3, heh |
| 19:25.41 | znf | Gnarfoz: I tought bosh fits stuff |
| 19:25.44 | znf | Like drills |
| 19:25.47 | znf | And saw chains |
| 19:25.49 | znf | And stuff |
| 19:27.32 | Gnarfoz | fits? |
| 19:29.15 | Gnarfoz | but yeah https://imgr2.auto-motor-und-sport.de/Bosch-Logo-articleDetail-5b51b05c-30335.jpg vs https://jmmnewaov2.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/bosch_ig_600x600-pre.jpg |
| 19:54.32 | Gnarfoz | I want to use this but it's broken for me :C https://github.com/krmax44/Playify-Transfer/issues/2 |
| 19:54.35 | Gnarfoz | I feel like Stanzilla |
| 19:54.44 | Stanzilla | why |
| 19:55.01 | Gnarfoz | having problems nobody else has? :P |
| 19:55.15 | Stanzilla | wow... |
| 19:55.23 | nevcairiel | when did bosch s04 come out Gnarfoz, just now? |
| 19:55.33 | Gnarfoz | last week, I think |
| 19:55.36 | Stanzilla | also Gnarfoz https://github.com/rckclmbr/pyportify |
| 19:55.40 | Stanzilla | could have asked me |
| 19:55.43 | Stanzilla | : ))) )) |
| 19:56.05 | Gnarfoz | why would I know that you know this |
| 19:56.12 | Gnarfoz | also, I just did! :p |
| 19:56.13 | Stanzilla | chances are high |
| 19:56.18 | Stanzilla | as a fellow gmusic user |
| 19:56.21 | nevcairiel | hm seem to be an unpopular choice for rippers |
| 19:56.25 | nevcairiel | no web-dls on this platform |
| 19:56.40 | Gnarfoz | it's Amazon, that's usually ripped five minutes before it's even watchable |
| 19:56.48 | Gnarfoz | (exaggerating here) |
| 19:56.59 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: I forgot you're using gmusic, I shall try and remember |
| 19:57.02 | nevcairiel | there is things just called WEB, but thats usually webrips, why anyone would even want to make those |
| 19:57.26 | Stanzilla | one thing about pyportify, not sure if it made it in a recent release yet, the link to the spotify api is wrong |
| 19:57.30 | Stanzilla | so check the issues for that |
| 19:57.39 | Gnarfoz | because sometimes the UHD stream is terribad at 4K but still better than 1080p when downscaled |
| 19:58.07 | nevcairiel | i mean i could just watch it through amazon |
| 19:58.14 | nevcairiel | but i hate web browser viewing shit |
| 19:58.26 | nevcairiel | why cant web browsers implement decent sound playback engines that let you select devices and stuff |
| 19:58.27 | Gnarfoz | my TV has an app, so that's what I use for that |
| 19:59.00 | Gnarfoz | that Stargate Origins Feature Cut has still not appeared, meh |
| 19:59.48 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: Bosch S04 1080p WEB-DL DD+5.1 H.264-SiGMA (shouldn't be internal to my tracker) |
| 20:00.14 | nevcairiel | i saw a patch for chromium embedded framework recently that added a feature that passed audio buffers to the host application, that looked neat, but since it was declined for inclusion for $reasons |
| 20:00.40 | nevcairiel | maybe its just unpopular from uploaders on this thing |
| 20:01.32 | Gnarfoz | https://hastebin.com/bivamokuba.txt Amazon has acceptable settings \o/ |
| 20:03.53 | Gnarfoz | also, I b0rked my python setup in my WSL Ubuntu |
| 20:04.58 | Gnarfoz | https://hastebin.com/uliwamoqiz.sh ??? :D |
| 20:08.04 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 20:08.28 | nevcairiel | my wsl is also somewhat broken, i plan to just re-do it when i re-install windows, whenever they manage to release 1803 |
| 20:08.45 | Gnarfoz | great, now I broke pip as well |
| 20:08.59 | nevcairiel | you're on a roll |
| 20:09.28 | Stanzilla | just download the exe |
| 20:09.35 | Gnarfoz | of pip? |
| 20:09.39 | Stanzilla | pyportify |
| 20:09.40 | Gnarfoz | for Linux? :P |
| 20:09.52 | Gnarfoz | I haven't even started fiddling with that :3 |
| 20:09.56 | Stanzilla | oh ok |
| 20:11.26 | nevcairiel | what kind of crap implementation does the blizzard forum use btw that their software gets slower as threads get more posts? |
| 20:11.42 | nevcairiel | I always see notices from CMs like, this thread is too long and loads slowly, use this new one |
| 20:11.50 | Gnarfoz | fO(n²)rum software |
| 20:11.53 | nevcairiel | which just makes no sense to me with any sane database backed forum |
| 20:12.31 | Gnarfoz | I doubt it's even true |
| 20:12.44 | Gnarfoz | maybe they have an interface that allows displaying it all on a single page |
| 20:12.45 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 20:12.50 | nevcairiel | not like you would notice with how terrible the forum works anyway |
| 20:14.31 | Gnarfoz | Linux undo: find . -mtime -7 -type f -delete |
| 20:15.00 | nevcairiel | deleting things solves all your problems, nodnod |
| 20:15.23 | Gnarfoz | not having something is arguably better than having something broken |
| 20:15.24 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 20:15.49 | znf | Alternatively, you can copy all playlists easily using the pyportify-copyall command: |
| 20:15.54 | znf | >Or, use Docker: |
| 20:15.55 | Gnarfoz | (that was in ~/.local/ where pip dumps its shit, including itself. I apparently did pip3 install pip a few days ago) |
| 20:15.58 | znf | ...use docker? |
| 20:16.01 | znf | like, why? |
| 20:16.05 | znf | the fuck is wrong with these people? |
| 20:16.19 | Gnarfoz | because Docker |
| 20:18.08 | Gnarfoz | I have no idea wtf this extension is doing |
| 20:18.12 | Gnarfoz | or Chrome, or whoever :D |
| 20:19.31 | Gnarfoz | I mean, ws:// should just be HTTP, shouldn't it |
| 20:19.50 | nevcairiel | if its just http, why use a different protocol prefix! |
| 20:21.10 | Gnarfoz | true |
| 20:21.36 | Gnarfoz | grabbed some half-assed bash websocket client, and it's actually giving me a different error now, yay |
| 20:21.46 | Gnarfoz | TypeError: the JSON object must be str, not 'bytes' |
| 20:22.26 | Gnarfoz | (so Chrome is probably to blame) |
| 20:22.32 | znf | uhm |
| 20:22.35 | znf | ws:// is websocket? |
| 20:22.40 | znf | wss:// is websocket, tls |
| 20:22.46 | Gnarfoz | yes |
| 20:22.54 | znf | wasn't a question :P |
| 20:23.01 | znf | and yes, websockets are weird |
| 20:23.34 | Gnarfoz | so Chrome speaks a different WS version or what |
| 20:23.43 | Gnarfoz | or enforces tls even on ws:// or something :D |
| 20:23.45 | znf | no? |
| 20:23.49 | znf | could be |
| 20:23.56 | znf | it shouldn't :P |
| 20:24.02 | znf | anyway, why leave spotify for gpm? :o |
| 20:24.12 | Gnarfoz | who's leaving Spotify? |
| 20:24.17 | Gnarfoz | I've never used it |
| 20:24.35 | znf | then why are you transfering playlists...?! |
| 20:24.35 | znf | O.o |
| 20:24.41 | Gnarfoz | https://krmax44.de/playify/ |
| 20:24.49 | znf | ah |
| 20:24.57 | Gnarfoz | I just want to be able to open spotify links |
| 20:25.08 | znf | who tought that header would be good? |
| 20:25.11 | Gnarfoz | and for single elements that works fine, but playlists are a bit more annoying |
| 20:25.13 | znf | with the pseudo-eq shit? |
| 20:25.36 | Gnarfoz | probably krmax44 |
| 20:27.21 | Gnarfoz | guess I could grab stable Chrome, heh |
| 20:32.27 | Gnarfoz | eh? won't install alongside beta? |
| 20:32.37 | Gnarfoz | (dev, actually, same thing) |
| 20:34.13 | Gnarfoz | I thought you could install all channels side by side |
| 20:34.22 | Stanzilla | you can |
| 20:35.47 | Gnarfoz | then why does it say "a more recent version of Chrome is already installed" when I try to install stable, and the only version I have is dev |
| 20:44.08 | Gnarfoz | znf: know any python? |
| 20:44.36 | znf | a bit |
| 20:44.52 | Gnarfoz | given a function that takes 3 parameters, has defaults for all 3, what's the call notation to only override param 1 and 3? |
| 20:45.02 | Gnarfoz | func(something, null, somethingelse)? |
| 20:45.36 | Gnarfoz | (not null, apparently, hence my question) |
| 20:47.10 | Gnarfoz | guess I need to know the name the function uses for that parameter |
| 20:47.39 | Gnarfoz | or rather, of the parameters after the first one I want to skip |
| 20:48.26 | Gnarfoz | yeah, func(param1=something, param3=somethingelse) works like I want |
| 20:49.39 | znf | yes, that |
| 20:49.41 | znf | sorry :D |
| 21:00.05 | *** part/#wowace Seerah (~umsin@2601:3c2:80:1380:64f9:56d6:4219:6d7f) |
| 21:00.45 | Gnarfoz | I'm so annoyed by this piece of shit code... I could just try what Stanzilla gave me, instead :P |
| 21:01.24 | Stanzilla | it's not a browser extension though |
| 21:01.30 | Stanzilla | just something to convert playlists |
| 21:01.45 | Gnarfoz | on the other hand |
| 21:01.46 | Gnarfoz | https://i.imgur.com/xOZLAQ2.png |
| 21:01.57 | Gnarfoz | maybe not using that yet wasn't such a bad idea |
| 21:02.25 | Gnarfoz | (not sure why pip3 install pyportify *on Linux* would grab that exe, even) |
| 21:03.27 | znf | I still don't want/like to do python3 stuff :-| |
| 21:03.58 | Gnarfoz | I don't care, I don't write it (and for fucking with it, it could be python5 for all I care, it's not like I know what's different :P) |
| 21:04.52 | znf | I'm annoyed by the fact that I have to suffix the stuff with 3 |
| 21:04.53 | znf | :D |
| 21:05.00 | Gnarfoz | that could be easily remedied |
| 21:05.11 | znf | without breaking your whole distro? :D |
| 21:05.41 | Gnarfoz | echo "alias python=python3" >> /home/znf/.profile |
| 21:06.02 | Gnarfoz | or use a distro that uses python3 by default |
| 21:06.41 | Gnarfoz | (astonishingly, among them: RHEL 8, even though that's probably still a couple of years away) |
| 21:12.19 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: no idea what you are doing but that is a false positive :D |
| 21:12.32 | Gnarfoz | probably, but how would you know |
| 21:12.37 | Gnarfoz | that's the trouble with binaries! :P |
| 21:12.47 | Stanzilla | virustotal |
| 21:12.49 | Gnarfoz | (why is it even in the python thing) |
| 21:13.09 | Gnarfoz | guess I could put it onto my server that can't actually run win32 binaries |
| 21:13.22 | Gnarfoz | can you disable the WSL interop that allows to just execute win32 binaries? |
| 21:14.17 | Gnarfoz | https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/interop#disable-interop |
| 21:14.18 | Gnarfoz | k |
| 21:14.40 | Stanzilla | https://www.thurrott.com/internet-of-things-iot/156628/microsofts-next-os-based-linux-not-windows |
| 21:14.41 | Stanzilla | I mean |
| 21:14.48 | Stanzilla | nice |
| 21:23.45 | nevcairiel | why would you not want that Gnarfoz |
| 21:23.54 | Gnarfoz | see screenshot above |
| 21:23.54 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 21:24.10 | nevcairiel | dont run trojans? |
| 21:24.11 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 21:24.28 | Gnarfoz | who knows what "pip" tries to run for me |
| 21:24.57 | Gnarfoz | pip install somethingsomething in Ubuntu/WSL resulting in Windows Defender popup is both reassuring and horrifying |
| 21:25.39 | Gnarfoz | hey, I managed to wrangle it into submission |
| 21:25.49 | Gnarfoz | or, at least, it's reading things from my google account now |
| 21:27.34 | wink__ | Stanzilla: are you using PS a lot? do people write some elaborate "which windows/PS version am I on" stuff? or is it all like bash, e.g. a horrible mess? |
| 21:27.59 | Gnarfoz | people still use #!/bin/sh so I don't think bash has much blame to take :p |
| 21:28.12 | wink__ | my problem is really simple: download a file from github via a .bat. we used to have curl/wget but nobody really has that installed, so PS |
| 21:28.15 | nevcairiel | anyone sane will just tell you to use PS5, and any system that doesnt ship with that will be yelled at to update to it |
| 21:28.22 | wink__ | and it went quite well, until now TLS... |
| 21:28.23 | Gnarfoz | speaking of: only this bash websocket client works, not the Chrome extension |
| 21:29.04 | Gnarfoz | still complains Chrome isn't speaking utf-8 or something |
| 21:30.32 | Stanzilla | wink__: no but agree with what nev said |
| 21:30.38 | Stanzilla | can you make them install that update? |
| 21:31.24 | nevcairiel | if all he w ants is a .bat file that downloads t hings without dependencies, probably not |
| 21:31.36 | wink__ | I mean, I never installed it :P |
| 21:31.45 | wink__ | but apparently I have curl on my path somewhere |
| 21:31.59 | quiescens | its over there --> |
| 21:32.16 | Stanzilla | which curl |
| 21:32.23 | Stanzilla | also are you sure it is still not that bad alias |
| 21:32.35 | nevcairiel | what PS command did you use? Invoke-WebRequest? |
| 21:33.29 | wink__ | https://github.com/technomancy/leiningen/blob/2.8.1/bin/lein.bat#L157 |
| 21:33.50 | wink__ | and this is the new one that breaks win7 https://github.com/technomancy/leiningen/issues/2412 |
| 21:33.51 | Stanzilla | urm |
| 21:33.55 | Stanzilla | is that inline c#? |
| 21:34.05 | nevcairiel | nah thats fancy PS syntax |
| 21:34.14 | wink__ | I think it's PS, yes |
| 21:34.22 | wink__ | PS e xecutes it ;) |
| 21:34.39 | Stanzilla | I would just Invoke-WebRequest |
| 21:35.11 | Gnarfoz | aka curl |
| 21:35.20 | Gnarfoz | also, how does that person have ps2 on win7 |
| 21:35.26 | Gnarfoz | isn't that only in like, win7 rtm |
| 21:35.30 | nevcairiel | note that Invoke-WebRequest is not availabvle on 7 |
| 21:35.38 | Stanzilla | ps2 is base windows powershell |
| 21:35.40 | nevcairiel | dunno, does PS update itself? |
| 21:35.47 | Gnarfoz | win10 certainly doesn't come with ps2 |
| 21:35.53 | wink__ | I have PS2 on win7 |
| 21:35.53 | Stanzilla | it is the windows component |
| 21:35.56 | nevcairiel | 8 came with 3.0 initially |
| 21:35.58 | wink__ | the guy has win10 |
| 21:36.09 | nevcairiel | 8.1 with 4 iirc |
| 21:36.12 | nevcairiel | and 10 with 5 |
| 21:36.25 | Stanzilla | like I said, he probably accidently installed the windows component |
| 21:36.27 | Stanzilla | that is v2 |
| 21:36.41 | Gnarfoz | still no idea what you mean by that |
| 21:37.07 | Gnarfoz | how do you accidentally install something that's already shipped in a way newer version? |
| 21:37.17 | wink__ | I'm also a bit lost. |
| 21:37.17 | Stanzilla | it is still v2 on every windows |
| 21:37.18 | Stanzilla | https://i.imgur.com/RjBDNqH.png |
| 21:37.28 | wink__ | I mean it would help if we had some usage stats, but afaik we don't |
| 21:37.55 | Gnarfoz | what's the usage case for that option oO |
| 21:38.00 | Gnarfoz | PS is installed out of the box |
| 21:38.10 | Stanzilla | legacy scripts |
| 21:38.36 | Gnarfoz | so what you (or Microsoft) really meant to say: he installed "old powershell" accidentally? |
| 21:38.37 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 21:38.59 | Gnarfoz | I also have that component installed and still have 5.1, btw |
| 21:39.11 | Gnarfoz | no fucking clue about PowerShell T_T |
| 21:39.22 | wink__ | According to Statcounter, in Januaryâs figures for Windows desktop operating system market share, Windows 10 climbed to reach 42.78%, a jump of 1.09% compared to the previous month. |
| 21:39.25 | wink__ | Meanwhile, Windows 7 dropped just a smidge â by 0.03% â down to 41.86%, meaning that Microsoftâs newest OS has overtaken it by almost a clear percentage point. |
| 21:39.29 | Stanzilla | https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/powershell/2017/08/24/windows-powershell-2-0-deprecation/ |
| 21:39.30 | Stanzilla | there |
| 21:39.45 | quiescens | o.o |
| 21:40.09 | Gnarfoz | -version 2? ok |
| 21:40.21 | wink__ | man, I'm so close to just writing a static file downloader in Csomething |
| 21:40.22 | Gnarfoz | guess I should remove the component to feed Microsoft accurate data |
| 21:40.25 | nevcairiel | yeah it doesnt replace the main power shell |
| 21:40.50 | nevcairiel | wink__: with tls support? that sounds extra annoying =p |
| 21:40.58 | Gnarfoz | you could also ship curl, wink__ ;P |
| 21:41.06 | nevcairiel | yeah thats easier |
| 21:41.07 | wink__ | nevcairiel: hardcoding the GH certs ;) |
| 21:41.08 | znf | bash is better |
| 21:41.09 | znf | :D |
| 21:41.17 | znf | just curl, wink__, just curl |
| 21:41.34 | wink__ | see, the problem is the user should just download 1 file. otherwise we'd be able to ship the JAR that is downloaded |
| 21:41.38 | wink__ | so this helps nothing |
| 21:41.56 | Gnarfoz | make that one file a nsis installer |
| 21:42.12 | Gnarfoz | instead of a dos batch file, what century is this |
| 21:42.13 | nevcairiel | indeed, batch files are silly, just ship an installer |
| 21:42.13 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 21:42.35 | Gnarfoz | (at least make it a .cmd! one or two decades newer :D) |
| 21:42.53 | Gnarfoz | (.nt works as well, and yeah, I realize that's all just naming sugar) |
| 21:43.30 | nevcairiel | (there is behavior differences, fwiw) |
| 21:43.30 | Stanzilla | just rewrite an installer in node |
| 21:43.37 | wink__ | grr |
| 21:43.38 | Gnarfoz | no, electron! |
| 21:43.41 | Stanzilla | :D |
| 21:43.51 | Gnarfoz | NSIS should be pretty straight-forward, though |
| 21:43.54 | wink__ | you need the batch anyway, it's the interfdace to the jar |
| 21:44.07 | Stanzilla | I still dont know how you ended up with PSv2 without calling it via -version 2 |
| 21:44.09 | wink__ | so the idea is good, and in bash it's been working for 7 years |
| 21:44.21 | Gnarfoz | except, under windows, that interface should really be a .lnk |
| 21:44.33 | wink__ | Stanzilla: why would I have a never version than 2 on win7? |
| 21:44.54 | Stanzilla | wink: because you install updates |
| 21:45.06 | znf | curl something | bash |
| 21:45.06 | znf | :P |
| 21:45.42 | nevcairiel | its an optional feature update if they even give that to you at all |
| 21:45.42 | Stanzilla | wink__: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=54616 |
| 21:45.42 | Gnarfoz | I think you mean sudo bash |
| 21:46.16 | znf | uhm, pretty sure it doesn't work to curl | sudo bash |
| 21:46.17 | znf | ? |
| 21:46.41 | wink__ | Stanzilla: I am not the problen here. https://i.imgur.com/VsS770i.png |
| 21:47.04 | Stanzilla | yeah it probably is not on WU |
| 21:47.23 | wink__ | trhen it doesn't exist :P |
| 21:47.45 | Gnarfoz | znf: why wouldn't it? |
| 21:48.08 | znf | dunno |
| 21:48.10 | Gnarfoz | echo "asdf" | sudo cat |
| 21:48.13 | znf | isn't the stdout passed to sudo first? |
| 21:49.19 | znf | dunno, too lazy to check now :D |
| 21:49.27 | Stanzilla | so |
| 21:49.28 | wink__ | powershell -Version |
| 21:49.31 | wink__ | missing argument m( |
| 21:49.31 | Stanzilla | if (($PSVersionTable.PSVersion | Select-Object -ExpandProperty Major) -eq 5 -and ($PSVersionTable.PSVersion | SelectObject |
| 21:49.31 | Stanzilla | -ExpandProperty Minor) -eq 1) |
| 21:49.31 | Stanzilla | { |
| 21:49.31 | Stanzilla | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:49.31 | Stanzilla | } |
| 21:49.45 | Stanzilla | is how you would check for up to date ps on win7 |
| 21:49.46 | znf | brainfuck is more legible than powershell |
| 21:50.01 | Gnarfoz | not really |
| 21:50.15 | Gnarfoz | PS is pretty verbose, that's really all there is to it ^ |
| 21:50.34 | znf | Idon't like it! |
| 21:50.50 | znf | but seriously, I can't understand that voodoo |
| 21:50.50 | znf | :D |
| 21:50.59 | Gnarfoz | wink__: yes, since that's how you start for example version 2 while having version 5 available |
| 21:51.21 | Gnarfoz | powershell -version 2 (as Stanzilla said above) |
| 21:51.56 | wink__ | I know, but if you're on 2 you have to try 3, then 4 then 5? |
| 21:52.09 | wink__ | I know, what you posted works |
| 21:52.17 | Gnarfoz | znf: also, objects EVERYWHERE. :P if psversion.major = 5 && psversion.minor = 1 then print "installed" end -- not really complicated? :p |
| 21:52.22 | wink__ | but this is just nuts, no normal -v/-V-version |
| 21:52.27 | Gnarfoz | "normal" |
| 21:52.35 | znf | bash is king |
| 21:52.36 | znf | thx |
| 21:52.47 | wink__ | it's normal, even for old MS EXEs |
| 21:52.48 | Gnarfoz | it's not normal to ship a .bat file that is supposed to be both installer and .lnk replacement |
| 21:53.06 | wink__ | doesn't matter in this case. |
| 21:53.08 | Gnarfoz | microsoft uses / historically, so :P |
| 21:53.18 | wink__ | ok, but /v alsoe doesn't work |
| 21:57.34 | Gnarfoz | wink__: reg query HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\PowerShell\3\PowerShellEngine /v PowerShellVersion |
| 21:58.36 | Gnarfoz | (might need to use 1 instead for older versions, i.e. you'll probably have to check both) |
| 21:58.37 | Gnarfoz | https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/powershell/2009/06/25/detection-logic-for-powershell-installation/ |
| 21:58.58 | wink__ | haha this worked https://superuser.com/a/536400 |
| 21:59.10 | wink__ | can cscript be disabled? probably |
| 21:59.13 | Gnarfoz | https://stackoverflow.com/a/17142839/687704 |
| 22:00.10 | wink__ | Gnarfoz: REG_SZ 2.0 |
| 22:00.27 | Gnarfoz | your point? |
| 22:00.57 | Gnarfoz | I got the impression you were looking for a way to identify the powershell version without actually using powershell |
| 22:01.11 | wink__ | in the end I just want to doanload a file |
| 22:01.23 | wink__ | if PS is not the right way I can just say: screw you PS version check |
| 22:01.59 | wink__ | just a little sad, as we were quite happy to finally get someone to contribute a PS download that worked for like 2 years |
| 22:02.01 | Gnarfoz | there are many "right" ways |
| 22:02.13 | Gnarfoz | (or none!) |
| 22:03.17 | Gnarfoz | is "if you want to install via powershell, you need to be on Windows 8 or later, or manually make sure you have PowerShell 5+" too much to ask? :P |
| 22:05.03 | Stanzilla | put the check in i posted |
| 22:05.08 | Stanzilla | if it fails, output the link to the update |
| 22:05.15 | Stanzilla | make them update or gtfo |
| 22:05.39 | Gnarfoz | (or just replace the broken windows installer link with a new NSIS one that just ships curl and then calls the batch file) |
| 22:05.41 | Stanzilla | is what I would do |
| 22:05.43 | znf | NSIS ftw |
| 22:05.43 | Stanzilla | Hello #WindowsInsiders we have released Build 17134 to the Fast ring aka.ms/tribbles |
| 22:05.43 | Stanzilla | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:05.45 | Stanzilla | lulz |
| 22:05.52 | Gnarfoz | tribbles? whut |
| 22:05.55 | znf | fuck the windows way |
| 22:06.15 | Gnarfoz | how is offering a binary installer not "the windows way" |
| 22:06.29 | Stanzilla | https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2018/04/16/announcing-windows-10-insider-preview-build-17134-for-fast/ |
| 22:06.34 | Gnarfoz | aka.ms/tribbles leads to a wordpress login thing |
| 22:06.35 | Gnarfoz | wtf |
| 22:06.44 | znf | wiat, what is wink__ shipping? |
| 22:06.49 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 22:06.52 | Stanzilla | she shared the internal link |
| 22:06.54 | Stanzilla | by accident |
| 22:07.05 | Gnarfoz | znf: coffee-based products, apparently! |
| 22:07.28 | znf | can you just ship a damn jnlp? :P |
| 22:07.34 | wink__ | znf: nsis doesn't help, because the bat also has some self-upgrade |
| 22:07.46 | znf | your life is complicated |
| 22:07.51 | nevcairiel | you're really abusing what .bat files should be doing :D |
| 22:08.00 | wink__ | don't tell me |
| 22:08.02 | znf | pft |
| 22:08.10 | Gnarfoz | well, make the installer dump curl in %windir% :P |
| 22:08.13 | wink__ | I'm just the poor sod who took up windows bugs :) |
| 22:08.24 | Gnarfoz | or in %programdir% and call it in the batch file? |
| 22:08.32 | wink__ | hacky. |
| 22:08.40 | znf | you haven't abused .bat until you have curl base64 encoded inside a var, and you reconstruct it (?) on start |
| 22:08.40 | znf | :D |
| 22:08.47 | Gnarfoz | certainly less so that most of the other suggestions! :p |
| 22:08.48 | znf | wait, can you do that? :D |
| 22:09.23 | Gnarfoz | (%windir% was in jest, putting it in the program dir seems fine) |
| 22:09.24 | znf | how about a php script compiled to exe, wink__? |
| 22:09.34 | Stanzilla | can you guys stop |
| 22:09.36 | znf | or just python? |
| 22:09.37 | Stanzilla | I already have a headache |
| 22:09.42 | znf | there's py2exe! |
| 22:11.23 | znf | I'd just py2exe |
| 22:11.24 | znf | easier |
| 22:11.49 | wink__ | nevcairiel: could you test this on your PS4 on 8.1 maybe? $client = New-Object System.Net.WebClient; [Net.ServicePointManager]::SecurityProtocol = 'tls12' ; $client.Proxy.Credentials =[System.Net.CredentialCache]::DefaultNetworkCredentials; $client.DownloadFile("https://github.com/technomancy/leiningen/releases/download/2.8.1/leiningen-2.8.1-standalone.zip", "foo.zip"); |
| 22:11.58 | wink__ | just so I know if only 5 works |
| 22:12.06 | znf | also, I have a question |
| 22:12.11 | znf | why would someone still use Win 8.1? |
| 22:13.39 | Gnarfoz | because it's still supported, probably |
| 22:14.00 | nevcairiel | wink__: works on 8.1 |
| 22:14.16 | Gnarfoz | whew, wsdump.py |
| 22:14.35 | nevcairiel | because 10 has some annoyances for pure HTPC use, and i also cba to upgrade because it also doesnt have any advantages :p |
| 22:14.47 | Gnarfoz | the server thing from playify does actually work! but whatever Chrome is speaking to it, it doesn't understand it. great! :D |
| 22:15.20 | wink__ | nevcairiel: thanks |
| 22:22.03 | wink__ | and thanks rest for listening to my rambling yet again :) |
| 22:23.59 | Stanzilla | I feel like your rambling was fine but everyone else made it worse :D |
| 22:24.58 | wink__ | sure, but it still helped |
| 22:25.08 | Stanzilla | :thumbsup: |
| 22:33.15 | Gnarfoz | /topic #wowace modus operandi: group rambling |
| 22:42.32 | *** join/#wowace Marla (~textual@139-60-195-128.uinta.ngl.ninja) |
| 22:51.29 | znf | #randompeoplewhocodeaddonsandsomewhatplaywow |
| 22:53.13 | znf | Stanzilla, why is Hanzo such a shit hero in hots? |
| 22:54.26 | Stanzilla | he is stupidly OP |
| 22:54.31 | Stanzilla | same with genji |
| 22:54.38 | Stanzilla | basically all high mobility overwatch heroes |
| 22:56.13 | znf | I feel he's very shitty |
| 23:00.57 | znf | https://github.com/CoreELEC/CoreELEC/releases |
| 23:00.58 | znf | hmmm |
| 23:01.08 | znf | libreelec for android tv chinese boxes |
| 23:01.11 | znf | is tempted |
| 23:13.13 | Stanzilla | maybe if you play him :D |
| 23:13.20 | Stanzilla | but he is always first pick or ban in HGC |
| 23:16.23 | Gnarfoz | https://photos.app.goo.gl/rP2nl6apWuRUKKzF2 |
| 23:16.32 | Gnarfoz | Lies, dirty lies |
| 23:22.36 | Stanzilla | the big fritzbox software update is due soon |
| 23:22.42 | Stanzilla | wonder how much shit it breaks again |
| 23:22.56 | Stanzilla | the last time I took an update right after it was release my wlan was broken beyond repair |
| 23:29.31 | Gnarfoz | no updates for this one, probably |
| 23:31.32 | Gnarfoz | actually, they seem to have finally put up a new labor firmware recently |
| 23:32.26 | Gnarfoz | and they seem to have cleaned up their ftp, finally |
