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| 11:09.59 | Gnarfoz | znf: unexpected |
| 11:11.20 | znf | I want to ask, but I don't want to spoil anyone |
| 11:11.43 | znf | Is there a particular event with that captain guy? |
| 11:13.34 | Gnarfoz | plenty, but most of them only in reference, due to the year |
| 11:14.05 | Gnarfoz | so they have existing stuff to pick from, or new stuff to make up. not the worst choice |
| 11:16.09 | znf | So we don't know what event is going down with that space-meeting, basically? |
| 11:16.14 | Gnarfoz | I bought my GPU on 2016-12-20 for 489⬠... https://geizhals.de/?phist=1456802 quite possible I could sell it for over 700⬠today |
| 11:16.19 | Gnarfoz | correct |
| 11:17.15 | Megalon | haha *foz |
| 11:17.29 | Megalon | i still have my geizhals list of the pc i build a year ago |
| 11:17.46 | Megalon | back then ~1300â¬, list right now >1600⬠|
| 11:17.55 | Megalon | should i hodl though? |
| 11:32.48 | znf | Gnarfoz, who's gonna buy it? :P |
| 11:33.05 | Gnarfoz | dumb ass cryptocoin miners |
| 11:33.28 | Gnarfoz | Megalon: problem: unless you have another system you can use... selling is kind of pointless. :D |
| 11:33.40 | Gnarfoz | but yeah, I probably also shouldn't look how much my RAM costs now |
| 11:35.31 | Gnarfoz | 186⬠-> 380⬠|
| 11:35.35 | nevcairiel | price for my ram almost doubled |
| 11:35.43 | Gnarfoz | more than, in my case |
| 11:35.54 | Gnarfoz | it's worse than GPUs, even, but GPUs have a higher base price |
| 11:36.31 | nevcairiel | bought for 238, now at 420 |
| 11:36.55 | nevcairiel | (DDR4 4x8 3200 CL14 kit) |
| 11:40.34 | nevcairiel | the 1080 i have is stable in price though |
| 11:40.39 | Gnarfoz | mine was DDR4 3200 2x16 CL15 |
| 11:40.46 | nevcairiel | well, at least to when i bought it |
| 11:40.59 | nevcairiel | it dipped down in the middle and is now back up a bit, still under original purchase price tho |
| 11:41.29 | nevcairiel | maybe i should clear out another card or so before nvidia announces new ones |
| 11:44.33 | nevcairiel | the price of the 1070 is not even funny anymore, you can buy a 1080 for that, since those seem to be somewhat unaffected |
| 11:45.42 | znf | where can you even find 1070? :D |
| 11:46.16 | nevcairiel | various shops in germany have them at outrageous prices |
| 11:46.45 | nevcairiel | but for ~650+ you can already buy a 1080 |
| 11:47.01 | nevcairiel | or a 1070 ti, which also seem to be more available |
| 11:47.42 | harl | why would anyone buy a 1070 Ti |
| 11:47.55 | nevcairiel | because you're short the 30 bucks more to buy a 1080? |
| 11:47.56 | nevcairiel | not sure |
| 11:50.01 | harl | huh.. |
| 11:53.45 | Gnarfoz | znf: I have a 1070 you could buy! hehe :p |
| 11:54.04 | znf | Gnarfoz, sure, 50⬠|
| 11:55.33 | znf | 650 for a 1080? |
| 11:55.34 | znf | wtf? |
| 11:55.43 | znf | there are at ~900 here |
| 11:56.24 | Stanzilla | thanks crypto |
| 11:56.29 | Gnarfoz | see? my 1070 for 700⬠is cheap! |
| 11:56.41 | Gnarfoz | (and a nice 200⬠profit for me, lol) |
| 11:56.58 | harl | https://www.mindfactory.de/Hardware/Grafikkarten+(VGA)/GeForce+GTX+fuer+Gaming/GTX+1080.html |
| 11:57.44 | znf | well crap |
| 11:58.08 | znf | >xau 4300 ron to eur |
| 11:58.10 | Catal1na | 4300.00 RON == 923.42 EUR |
| 11:58.14 | znf | that's the price here |
| 12:15.06 | znf | NVRM: GPU at 0000:06:00.0 has fallen off the bus. |
| 12:15.11 | znf | NVRM: GPU is on Board . |
| 12:15.13 | znf | make up your mind |
| 12:15.16 | znf | are you on or off?! |
| 12:20.59 | nevcairiel | apparently it was off briefly and then returned |
| 12:21.02 | nevcairiel | isnt that quite clear |
| 12:25.27 | harl | whatever they did to hunter pets that causes them to stop and stand around sometimes |
| 12:25.38 | harl | and even despawn when their master walks away.. |
| 12:25.42 | harl | it's annoying |
| 12:25.55 | znf | I "love" the chinese website marketing text & buzzwords on products |
| 12:26.03 | znf | "highly elastic connector" |
| 12:26.45 | harl | self-sealing stembolts |
| 12:27.41 | znf | >gif I understood that reference |
| 12:27.42 | Catal1na | https://media1.giphy.com/media/tnYri4n2Frnig/giphy.gif?cid=e1bb72ff5a82d9bd5445313945e22ef3 |
| 12:27.59 | nevcairiel | who wouldnt? |
| 12:28.13 | nevcairiel | also this is IRC; we dont talk in meme pictures here |
| 12:31.31 | znf | >C 30 qbic to usd |
| 12:31.32 | Catal1na | 30 QBIC == 227.6688 USD (04-10.41%) https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/qbic |
| 12:31.35 | znf | oh :( |
| 12:32.46 | harl | er.. ok |
| 12:33.01 | znf | harl, ? |
| 12:33.53 | harl | what? |
| 12:33.56 | znf | wat? |
| 12:34.11 | Megalon | uwotm8 |
| 12:34.24 | harl | echo? |
| 12:34.54 | znf | me hungry |
| 12:35.09 | Megalon | go eat a ... |
| 12:35.30 | harl | it puts the food in its mouth |
| 12:40.51 | znf | #1 annoyance with discord |
| 12:41.02 | znf | that fucking badge for friend requests AND suggestions |
| 12:41.09 | znf | like, it just found Phixion |
| 12:41.14 | znf | and it's suggesting me to add him |
| 12:41.25 | Stanzilla | same here |
| 12:41.33 | Stanzilla | I dont mind though |
| 12:41.42 | znf | I do, I don't usually reply to friend requests |
| 12:42.07 | Stanzilla | are you lonely boy |
| 12:42.07 | znf | and suggestions are annoying |
| 12:42.22 | znf | and clicking ignore feels rude |
| 12:42.27 | znf | like I'm ignoring the person completely |
| 12:43.51 | Stanzilla | yeah wording there is bad |
| 12:47.58 | Gnarfoz | you're ignoring the request/suggestion, not the person |
| 12:48.11 | Gnarfoz | but yeah, Xing for example also words it like that and it's dumb |
| 12:50.42 | znf | I just won 80⬠|
| 12:51.19 | quiescens | grats |
| 12:52.32 | Stanzilla | I just spent 60⬠|
| 12:53.01 | quiescens | grats? |
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| 12:54.16 | Stanzilla | I guess |
| 12:54.49 | znf | I also earned $230 in btc |
| 12:56.10 | wink | how do you get a friend suggestion on discord? o_O |
| 12:56.14 | Phixion | ye I just switch from franz to discord znf |
| 12:56.18 | Phixion | *shrug* |
| 12:56.32 | Stanzilla | I switched from franz to rambox yesterday |
| 12:56.38 | znf | franz? |
| 12:57.07 | Stanzilla | https://meetfranz.com |
| 12:58.05 | wink | meatfrenz |
| 12:58.18 | Stanzilla | meat friends |
| 12:58.22 | Phixion | :s |
| 12:58.34 | Stanzilla | Phixion: did you notice that bug https://github.com/meetfranz/franz/pull/675 |
| 12:58.43 | Phixion | my nickname on discord shouldnt be phixion tho |
| 12:58.59 | Phixion | hmm |
| 12:59.01 | Phixion | dont think so |
| 12:59.14 | Stanzilla | do you use small taskbar icons? |
| 12:59.20 | Phixion | yeah |
| 12:59.46 | Stanzilla | that explains it |
| 13:00.00 | Phixion | there's your fix |
| 13:00.20 | Stanzilla | compiled my own version :D |
| 13:00.30 | znf | sounds german |
| 13:01.01 | Stanzilla | close, I think they are Austrian |
| 13:01.15 | znf | tell me when they decide to allow me to split the windows |
| 13:01.45 | Stanzilla | just use a browser then? |
| 13:01.49 | znf | no? |
| 13:02.05 | Stanzilla | pin apps to the taskbar, works exactly like an app |
| 13:02.09 | znf | I like to have a window for each |
| 13:02.12 | Stanzilla | I do this with tweetdeck |
| 13:02.13 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 13:02.19 | znf | I don't want them in the browser proces |
| 13:02.21 | znf | I don't want them in the browser process |
| 13:02.27 | Stanzilla | why not |
| 13:02.42 | znf | because if they go haywire on memory usage, I don't want to close the whole browser because of it |
| 13:02.50 | wink | I envy your eyesight Stanzilla. |
| 13:02.55 | Stanzilla | Install another branch of chrome just for them |
| 13:02.59 | wink | I can't see any difference between the 2 icons :S |
| 13:03.03 | Stanzilla | wink: hah :D |
| 13:03.13 | Stanzilla | znf: like, run chrome beta and pin them there |
| 13:03.33 | znf | ...no |
| 13:03.46 | Stanzilla | why not |
| 13:04.25 | znf | because I don't want a 2nd chrome install? :-/ |
| 13:04.37 | znf | I'd have to link it to my profile |
| 13:04.40 | znf | double the background extensions |
| 13:04.44 | znf | double the... everything! |
| 13:04.53 | Stanzilla | ?_? |
| 13:05.23 | Stanzilla | I mean, running an electron app is pretty simliar minus the profile and extensions stuff |
| 13:05.46 | znf | I'm still impressed that Discord manages so well |
| 13:06.13 | Stanzilla | tbh, Slack and Atom ruined Electron's reputation |
| 13:06.17 | Stanzilla | it's not that bad really |
| 13:13.55 | Gnarfoz | it is, tho |
| 13:17.26 | Stanzilla | that is an endless discussion :D |
| 13:18.34 | wink | hehe |
| 13:18.43 | wink | VS Code is ok, it's an editor |
| 13:18.50 | wink | it's not ok for a chat app |
| 13:20.10 | Stanzilla | vs code is a really bad chat app indeed |
| 13:27.41 | harl | lol.. |
| 13:27.43 | wink | it's async, the newest fad. you need to finalize the message via ctrl-s and then send it in a differrnt thread |
| 13:27.54 | wink | err process even, for security |
| 13:28.58 | harl | this sandwich is a really bad chat app too |
| 13:30.46 | wink | it's call ham radio, not ham chat |
| 13:30.51 | wink | *ed |
| 14:36.37 | znf | My cars battery died |
| 14:36.43 | znf | It's not even 2 years old |
| 14:36.46 | quiescens | spontaneously? |
| 14:36.54 | znf | Yup |
| 14:37.02 | quiescens | or gradually |
| 14:37.04 | znf | No charge to start the engine |
| 14:43.11 | znf | Last time I started the car it felt a bit rough |
| 14:43.37 | znf | But I chalked it up to being very cold and me not starting the car for a few days |
| 14:49.12 | znf | https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/zWuikSFm/20180213_164618_HDR.jpg |
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| 14:51.55 | znf | They out hearts again |
| 14:52.04 | znf | Wonder how legal that is |
| 14:52.27 | Megalon | 1 legal, at most 2 legal |
| 15:24.01 | Phixion | asked a friend Megalon |
| 15:24.05 | Phixion | its 1 legal |
| 15:46.11 | mitch0 | dangit |
| 15:46.37 | mitch0 | middle-click ("paste") on the new tab button no longer opens the page in a new tab |
| 15:46.43 | mitch0 | (in opera) |
| 15:46.56 | mitch0 | I don't even know what this feature might be called to google it... |
| 15:48.10 | Phixion | didnt touch opera in a while |
| 15:48.34 | Phixion | but I wouldnt wanna live without middleclick -> new tab |
| 15:48.36 | mitch0 | I sorta stuck with it even when it all went downhill... |
| 15:48.52 | mitch0 | yeah, this'll break it for me, too |
| 15:49.14 | mitch0 | was bad enough that I had to middle-click on the small new-tab icon instead of anywhere on a page that is not an input field |
| 15:52.10 | Gnarfoz | I think Phixion just meant the regular "middle-click on link -> link opens in new tab", not the special thing Opera apparently has |
| 15:52.40 | Gnarfoz | (also, which page is "the page" in your initial statement?) |
| 15:52.56 | mitch0 | the link that I selected |
| 15:53.01 | mitch0 | the unix thingy |
| 15:53.11 | mitch0 | select stuff -> middle click paste |
| 15:54.00 | mitch0 | but if you did that anywhere that is not an input in old opera, it'd open the url (that was selected from an irc window, for example) in a new tab |
| 15:54.14 | mitch0 | that feature got "diminished" to only work on the "new tab" button |
| 15:54.23 | mitch0 | and now it completely broke :( |
| 15:55.24 | mitch0 | and since it's a linux-only feature and a bit hidden anyway, I might be the only user effected, so not much chance for a fix :( |
| 15:58.06 | Gnarfoz | wtf new tab button |
| 15:58.19 | Gnarfoz | I still don't understand what you're doing and why you keep mentioning paste |
| 15:58.20 | mitch0 | the button to the left of the tabs |
| 15:58.34 | Gnarfoz | middle-click on URL -> new tab |
| 15:58.41 | mitch0 | Gnarfoz: do you use linux ? |
| 15:58.41 | Gnarfoz | that's apparently not what you mean, though |
| 15:58.53 | Gnarfoz | not on my desktop, why is that relevant |
| 15:59.07 | Gnarfoz | I know that a default hotkey for paste is middle mouse button |
| 15:59.14 | mitch0 | well, not exactly |
| 15:59.22 | Gnarfoz | Opera also exists on other OSes, so I doubt it's related to Linux |
| 15:59.30 | mitch0 | linux (or rather X) has a concept of 2 paste buffers |
| 15:59.45 | Gnarfoz | (Windows also has multiple clipboards, fwiw) |
| 15:59.47 | mitch0 | one that you use with ^C, ^V, and the other is the selection buffer |
| 16:00.01 | mitch0 | where you just select and paste with middle click |
| 16:00.04 | Gnarfoz | how does all of this relate to a function of Opera? |
| 16:00.24 | Gnarfoz | I'm utterly certain what you mean is unrelated to copying and pasting things |
| 16:00.31 | mitch0 | when you do the latter on the "new tab button" in chrome (or the previous version of opera) it opens the url in the selection in a new tab |
| 16:00.49 | Gnarfoz | select... an url? |
| 16:00.52 | mitch0 | yes |
| 16:00.54 | Gnarfoz | you mean non-hyperlink text? |
| 16:00.56 | mitch0 | from a terminal, for example |
| 16:00.57 | quiescens | mitch is talking about an ability to just paste a url on the tab bar to open it as a new tab |
| 16:01.04 | quiescens | after copying it from wherever |
| 16:01.15 | Gnarfoz | I'm sure you can have that as an extension, then, sounds basic enough |
| 16:01.15 | mitch0 | well, after selecting it from wherever |
| 16:01.39 | mitch0 | anyway, gotta run now, will explain better tomorrow ;) |
| 16:01.40 | quiescens | selecting it copies it in this context o.o |
| 16:02.12 | mitch0 | laterz |
| 16:02.34 | Gnarfoz | (this doesn't seem to work in any shape or form in Chrome on Windows, btw) |
| 16:02.41 | Gnarfoz | (or Firefox) |
| 16:02.56 | Gnarfoz | (but then, there you can just select, right-click, go to) |
| 16:03.01 | quiescens | middle click doesn't generally paste at all in anything other than X |
| 16:03.36 | nevcairiel | that last thing only works if the link in question is actually in y our browser though Gnarfoz |
| 16:04.22 | Gnarfoz | quiescens: I don't expect my mouse to do anything in anything other than X, though |
| 16:04.31 | Gnarfoz | also, my quassel-web just turned RTL |
| 16:04.31 | Gnarfoz | wtf |
| 16:04.47 | quiescens | o.O |
| 16:05.18 | znf | 17:59:30 <mitch0> linux (or rather X) has a concept of 2 paste buffers |
| 16:05.28 | nevcairiel | yeah screw those two paste buffers |
| 16:05.32 | znf | Isn't that quite innacurate? |
| 16:05.34 | nevcairiel | the stupid X thing should just die |
| 16:05.38 | nevcairiel | not really |
| 16:05.39 | quiescens | i don't know if that tone was warranted ): |
| 16:05.46 | Gnarfoz | https://i.imgur.com/5JBHKO6.png halp |
| 16:05.53 | znf | The X paste has always been the middle click one |
| 16:06.02 | znf | But qt has a different buffer |
| 16:06.03 | znf | ? |
| 16:06.18 | nevcairiel | its not exactly Qt, but desktop environments manage a proper clipboard |
| 16:06.29 | znf | While gtk uses the "normal" X one? |
| 16:06.30 | nevcairiel | ie. the ctrl-c/v one |
| 16:06.41 | znf | Hmm, I remember it that way tough |
| 16:06.55 | quiescens | most current desktop environs offer the more common style of clipboard up to and including copying more than just text |
| 16:06.57 | Gnarfoz | that was trippy. not sure how I did that |
| 16:07.10 | znf | KDE (which I associate qt with) always behaved weird with their double buffers |
| 16:07.22 | quiescens | some of them try to sort of merge the two |
| 16:07.23 | znf | Konsole for example doesn't copy on select |
| 16:07.30 | znf | But gnome terminal does |
| 16:07.32 | quiescens | but they generally ultimately still exist |
| 16:08.29 | Gnarfoz | so... the "bug" description should be "Opera doesn't attempt to read from the X selection buffer when middle-clicking $anywhere anymore"? |
| 16:08.36 | znf | Haven't used Linux on desktop properly for years, I just have a Linux box I sometimes use when I'm at work, but sporadically |
| 16:09.05 | znf | (which uses KDE and it pisses me off) |
| 16:10.13 | znf | Also, you people using mouse combos are weird |
| 16:10.16 | quiescens | people don't use the middleclick-paste as much any more, it is increasingly used as an actual button by various software |
| 16:10.25 | znf | ...weirdos |
| 16:10.37 | Gnarfoz | I use middle to paste in all my PuTTYs |
| 16:10.48 | znf | That I do, too |
| 16:10.57 | Gnarfoz | (since a) it used to be the default and b) because it's harder to accidentally middle click vs. right click) |
| 16:10.58 | znf | Quite annoyed that cmd doesn't do that by default |
| 16:11.08 | Gnarfoz | cmd (and PS) are even worse |
| 16:11.15 | Gnarfoz | you have to press enter after selecting something |
| 16:11.21 | znf | Wait, no |
| 16:11.28 | znf | I use right click to paste in putty |
| 16:11.46 | znf | looks at Gnarfoz |
| 16:12.46 | znf | When the hell was it the default? |
| 16:12.55 | znf | I've been using putty for 15 years or so |
| 16:13.20 | Gnarfoz | dunno, maybe I'm remembering wrong, but I don't know how else I could have ended up with that |
| 16:13.25 | Gnarfoz | never used Linux as desktop |
| 16:13.50 | znf | I sometimes like to mess with people and use putty on linux |
| 16:15.47 | Gnarfoz | znf: do you understand Windows Server 2016 licensing |
| 16:15.58 | Gnarfoz | specifically if Essentials is any use for anything? :p |
| 16:16.22 | znf | I looked at it |
| 16:16.29 | znf | Still makes no sense |
| 16:17.05 | Gnarfoz | I can't even find a useful comparison |
| 16:17.27 | znf | All I know is your need to license the physical core |
| 16:17.34 | Gnarfoz | not w/ Essentials |
| 16:17.58 | znf | Ya you do |
| 16:18.11 | znf | ie: if you run essential as a VM on top of KVM |
| 16:18.35 | znf | You need to license all the vcores of the physical host |
| 16:20.34 | Gnarfoz | no, you don't |
| 16:20.42 | Gnarfoz | Essentials is licensed per OS, not per host |
| 16:20.56 | Gnarfoz | which is the super weird thing, since at the same time, it's allowed to run it as a VM |
| 16:21.07 | Gnarfoz | (in my case, it's for a physical host anyway, though) |
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| 16:47.39 | znf | >math calc 1200 / 80 * 100 |
| 16:47.41 | Catal1na | 1500 |
| 16:56.24 | Gnarfoz | znf: buy me one of these https://www.supermicro.com/products/system/7U/7089/SYS-7089P-TR4T.cfm |
| 16:56.37 | znf | why? |
| 16:56.48 | Gnarfoz | because it's completely insane |
| 16:56.59 | Gnarfoz | and clearly you're swimming in bitcoin riches ;p |
| 16:57.02 | znf | I'm kind of scared of these systems now |
| 16:57.11 | znf | the shared power backplane is... scary |
| 16:57.28 | Gnarfoz | probably, considering 8x1600W |
| 16:57.47 | Gnarfoz | (well, 6x1600W, 2 are for redundancy) |
| 16:57.54 | znf | I'm not talking about the PSUs |
| 16:57.59 | znf | I'm talking about the shared backplane |
| 16:58.03 | Gnarfoz | you said power |
| 16:58.05 | znf | they all share the same circuit board |
| 16:58.11 | nevcairiel | blade systems like that require a lot of power |
| 16:58.12 | Gnarfoz | of course, it's an 8-socket system |
| 16:58.18 | Gnarfoz | it's not a blade system though |
| 16:58.21 | Gnarfoz | even though it looks similar |
| 16:58.27 | znf | basically, if the backblane goes, all of them nodes go |
| 16:58.31 | Gnarfoz | they're not nodes |
| 16:58.34 | Gnarfoz | it's one system |
| 16:58.42 | Gnarfoz | (so yes, everything goes if one goes :P) |
| 16:58.46 | nevcairiel | why do they let you open up the front incrementally like that :D |
| 16:59.01 | znf | uhm |
| 16:59.04 | znf | then even more |
| 16:59.05 | znf | why? :-| |
| 16:59.07 | Gnarfoz | to illustrate how it's constructed, probably, but unless Intel supports hot-plugging of physical CPUs, it's not a blade system :D |
| 16:59.16 | Gnarfoz | because CPU density, probably |
| 16:59.19 | nevcairiel | sometimes you just need all the power in one system |
| 16:59.20 | znf | Xeon Scalable does support that |
| 16:59.32 | Gnarfoz | hot-pluggable CPUs? |
| 16:59.37 | znf | afaik |
| 16:59.40 | znf | if I remember corectly |
| 16:59.45 | Gnarfoz | it's the only 8-socket system for Xeon SP on sale that I can find |
| 17:00.16 | Gnarfoz | (it's certainly not the limit of craziness SuperMicro has on offer, though) |
| 17:00.26 | znf | that's why I like supermicro :P |
| 17:00.28 | znf | they do crazy shit |
| 17:00.38 | znf | and it doesnt' cost an arm and leg like dell/hp |
| 17:00.59 | Gnarfoz | they must have some drawback, or they'd be #1 everywhere, though |
| 17:01.17 | znf | to the corporate world? "it's not dell/hp" |
| 17:01.30 | Gnarfoz | that's hardly a function of dell being dell or hpe being hpe |
| 17:01.38 | Gnarfoz | don't they offer proper support? |
| 17:01.52 | znf | not to the same level as dell/hp probably |
| 17:02.19 | nevcairiel | the support is probably fine, but probably just not as enterprise-y |
| 17:02.35 | znf | I don't think they have a person on the phone 24/7 telling you how to plug in the power cable |
| 17:02.38 | znf | HP/Dell probably has |
| 17:02.52 | Gnarfoz | Gold Service level SLA: 4 hours |
| 17:03.15 | Gnarfoz | Help Desk: 24/7/365 |
| 17:03.27 | Gnarfoz | doesn't seem worse :shrug: |
| 17:03.36 | Gnarfoz | how's the actual build quality, though, failure rates, etc |
| 17:04.00 | znf | most of our hardware is supermicro :P |
| 17:04.12 | Gnarfoz | smells like a case of "not big enough to become big" |
| 17:05.11 | znf | but I really like their combo |
| 17:05.21 | znf | you can pick most mobos and pair them with one of their chasis |
| 17:05.26 | znf | you can get crazy combos |
| 17:05.31 | Gnarfoz | Platinum service level even allows for an on-site spare parts repository |
| 17:06.03 | Gnarfoz | I doubt most customers for enterprise grade equipment are about to "pick their own mobo" :D |
| 17:07.39 | Gnarfoz | well, "Europe subsidiary" is "NL" and "US east coast office" |
| 17:08.20 | Gnarfoz | and apart from World Wide HQ (San Jose, USA), the remaining offices are Taiwan (2x), China (2x), Japan. |
| 17:08.47 | Gnarfoz | no idea. :P I'm not sure they're even trying to compete with Dell & HPE |
| 17:08.58 | znf | probably not |
| 17:09.10 | Gnarfoz | they've certainly got them beat in terms of product variety |
| 17:10.31 | znf | their strong point is that you can get pretty much any combination you can think of |
| 17:11.49 | Gnarfoz | many of the systems I look at there have the "only available as a complete system" disclaimer, though |
| 17:12.44 | Gnarfoz | any idea kind of device exactly they mean with 2.5" 7mm NVMe? |
| 17:12.53 | Gnarfoz | what kind of connector would that have? |
| 17:13.05 | Gnarfoz | it's apparently small enough to fit 20 of them in the front of a 1U chassis |
| 17:13.20 | Gnarfoz | they don't get more specific than that |
| 17:13.42 | Gnarfoz | https://www.supermicro.nl/a_images/products/views/1029UZ-TN20R25M_angle.jpg |
| 17:13.50 | Gnarfoz | (https://www.supermicro.nl/products/system/1U/1029/SYS-1029UZ-TN20R25M.cfm) |
| 17:13.54 | znf | no idea, sounds expensive :D |
| 17:15.53 | znf | Gnarfoz, so, my next project would be to get 3 x 1U (or preferably 2U) servers, and stick at least 4 SSDs in each node |
| 17:15.59 | znf | and do a vm cluster, where each node is also a ceph node |
| 17:16.04 | znf | and have them replicate |
| 17:16.35 | Gnarfoz | http://taciej.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/aot14230.jpg |
| 17:21.26 | znf | http://www.itinstock.com/supermicro--x9dr3-ln4fcse-213-cto-16-x-25-2u-rack-server-48089-p.asp |
| 17:21.29 | znf | this looks good :-? |
| 17:23.30 | znf | oh |
| 17:23.30 | znf | http://www.itinstock.com/supermicro-6027ax-72rf-2u-high-performance-server-intel-16-core-128gb-ram-10x35-42147-p.asp |
| 17:24.48 | Gnarfoz | I have no idea how to read SuperMicro product names, though |
| 17:24.53 | znf | me neither |
| 17:25.19 | Gnarfoz | are both of those v0 |
| 17:25.22 | Gnarfoz | i.e. sandy bridge |
| 17:25.48 | znf | Sandy/Ivy |
| 17:26.48 | znf | and it satisfies my bay requirement of having more than 4 |
| 17:27.10 | znf | tough my big issue is where to get damn 2.5 -> 3.5 adapters for those caddies |
| 17:27.20 | znf | it's honestly a bitch to put 2.5" SSDs in there |
| 17:28.42 | znf | $17 for a fucking caddy for 2.5" |
| 17:28.44 | znf | son of a bitch |
| 17:28.56 | Gnarfoz | why not buy one that has 2.5" to start with? |
| 17:29.12 | Gnarfoz | the first one you linked, for example |
| 17:29.29 | Gnarfoz | it's cheaper than the other one anyway |
| 17:30.27 | Gnarfoz | oh |
| 17:30.29 | Gnarfoz | CTO SERVER - NO CPU, NO MEMORY, NO HDD INCLUDED |
| 17:30.35 | Gnarfoz | I guess that's why. :P |
| 17:30.51 | znf | exactly :D |
| 17:30.55 | znf | well, I can get it fitted |
| 17:30.59 | Gnarfoz | (which makes the other one ridiculously cheap) |
| 17:31.05 | znf | they sell the CPUs for cheap |
| 17:31.21 | Gnarfoz | although 800⬠is getting close to what a new Dell 1U costs as well ^^ |
| 17:31.27 | Gnarfoz | I think the cheapest one is 1300� |
| 17:31.40 | Gnarfoz | alas, not quite the same specs, probably. |
| 17:31.53 | Gnarfoz | I got literally zero work done today, horrible |
| 17:37.07 | znf | Gnarfoz, with 128GB? |
| 17:37.07 | znf | :P |
| 17:37.45 | znf | the 128GB part is important |
| 17:37.51 | znf | I mean, that's more expensive than the actual server |
| 17:38.06 | znf | the 4-node server I bought was something like 700GBP without RAM |
| 17:38.12 | znf | with 128GB/node, ~3000 |
| 17:38.13 | znf | :D |
| 17:42.42 | znf | Gnarfoz, or... http://www.itinstock.com/supermicro-chasis-2-amd-opteron-6168-19ghz-4tb-144gb-h8dgu-f-rack-server-24core-50379-p.asp |
| 17:47.58 | znf | >xau 1852 gbp to eur |
| 17:47.59 | Catal1na | 1852.00 GBP == 2079.55 EUR |
| 17:48.08 | znf | eek, out of budget for 3 of them :( |
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| 18:46.32 | znf | Gnarfoz, http://www.itinstock.com/supermicro-cse-213-2-x-eight-core-xeon-e5-2660-128gb-ram-16-x-25-d-bays-server-42270-p.asp |
| 18:46.34 | znf | this is actually nice |
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| 19:58.52 | znf | Gnarfoz, this was good https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/E36zkhxk/20180213_213600_HDR~2.jpg |
| 19:58.55 | znf | (that's bbq sauce) |
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| 21:22.24 | harl | or at least make them stay on screen a few seconds longer |
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