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| 00:29.47 | Torhal | ls-: Yeah, definitely an App bug. File a report inside the App or make a Twitch Desktop App ticket at https://support.curse.com |
| 00:31.42 | znf | ls-, pst, nobody reads those! |
| 00:33.05 | znf | cool https://www.supermicro.com/support/security_Intel-SA-00088.cfm?pg=X9 |
| 00:33.14 | znf | most of my servers are X9/X8 |
| 00:33.18 | znf | no updates |
| 00:38.53 | ls- | Torhal: I hoped you'd forward mine to the guys >_> I'll do later, when I get back home |
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| 01:11.01 | znf | https://www.gearbest.com/projector-accessories/pp_660919.html?wid=4 |
| 01:11.03 | znf | holy fuck Xiaomi |
| 01:11.16 | znf | that ain't cheap, melanin-rich friend |
| 01:11.38 | quiescens | o.O |
| 01:11.50 | quiescens | gives znf a cookie |
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| 01:44.18 | znf | right away, Amazon, sure https://i.imgur.com/4gRPlih.png |
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| 02:28.50 | Torhal | ls-: I'm on a completely different team and wouldn't know who to forward it to. Even if I did, that would make me the man in the middle passing messages. No thanks. :D |
| 02:29.56 | ls- | Torhal: done :D btw, https://support.curse.com/hc/en-us/requests/new has no "twitch desktop app" option anywhere, so I submitted it from the app :D |
| 02:31.11 | ls- | there's only accessibility and CF options |
| 02:32.15 | znf | have 2 almost identical running systems, try to compile kernel module |
| 02:32.22 | znf | 1 works |
| 02:32.25 | znf | 2nd doesn't |
| 02:32.26 | znf | ?! |
| 02:32.30 | quiescens | grats |
| 02:32.38 | znf | I mean, I can compile it, just not insert it |
| 02:32.58 | ls- | try another hole |
| 02:33.49 | Torhal | ls-: Oh, crap. I forgot they're migrating away from ZenDesk, That team is on https://help.twitch.tv/ now. |
| 02:33.50 | Torhal | Gah. |
| 02:34.29 | ls- | you bastard! but I used in-app bug reporter, so it's fine, hopefully :D |
| 02:34.39 | Torhal | Hopefully! |
| 02:35.04 | ls- | I also mentioned that according to you the site works as intended, so it's defo their issue :D |
| 02:35.36 | znf | ls-, I hope you mentioned "that Torhal guy that used to do a better job than you" |
| 02:36.05 | znf | that will get them really motivated |
| 02:36.24 | ls- | lol |
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| 02:36.50 | ls- | Torhal would stab me w/ his beard then |
| 02:36.58 | quiescens | o.o |
| 02:37.04 | Torhal | Nope. Kitten Storm. |
| 02:39.00 | ls- | here's a cute saw-whet owl: https://www.instagram.com/p/BeDghBInKLJ/ :> |
| 02:50.13 | quiescens | gives ls- a cookie |
| 02:50.53 | Funkeh` | it looks like it witnessed death |
| 02:51.03 | ls- | is this one venomous too? will it bite me? :< |
| 02:51.50 | znf | this is silly, I can't figure out why this kernel module doesn't work |
| 02:52.01 | znf | boot boxes have the same kernel running (same md5sum) |
| 02:52.05 | znf | both* |
| 02:52.13 | znf | both boxes compile the same module (same md5sum) from source |
| 02:53.00 | znf | yet... one works, other doesn't |
| 02:53.39 | ls- | did you try swapping them? O_o |
| 02:53.47 | znf | swap what? |
| 02:54.01 | znf | I copied the module from working box to other box, still doesn't want to insert |
| 02:54.10 | znf | [ 1032.149521] enhanceio: Unknown symbol mcount (err 0) |
| 02:54.16 | ls- | >_> |
| 02:55.44 | znf | same gcc version, same kernel source |
| 02:58.03 | ls- | ripperoni |
| 02:58.43 | znf | it doesn't make any sense |
| 02:59.05 | znf | only difference is that one has rd_NO_DM in the kernel parameters |
| 02:59.09 | znf | let's add that, I guess |
| 03:00.18 | quiescens | nerf znf |
| 03:00.55 | ls- | nerznf |
| 03:04.19 | znf | the only thing that is different is the kvm configuration for the hypervisor |
| 03:04.30 | znf | ok, changing that, too |
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| 03:15.00 | znf | anyone else finds it weird that Seerah leaves channels when he quits? :o |
| 03:16.38 | quiescens | o.o |
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| 04:09.37 | Torhal | What I find weird, znf, is that you're unaware that Seerah is a she. |
| 04:10.02 | znf | *shrug* everyone on the internet is a guy unless otherwise stated |
| 04:10.29 | Torhal | I've met Seerah a few times. No Internet involved. |
| 04:10.31 | znf | I don't treat people differently, usually, based on theri sex :P |
| 04:10.44 | Torhal | Didn't say you did, but you did say "he" so... :D |
| 04:11.10 | znf | would you want me to say it? :D |
| 04:12.26 | Torhal | TIL znf doesn't like being corrected even for innocuous things. |
| 04:12.41 | znf | I didn't say that... :-/ |
| 04:13.30 | znf | I said that I always assume that anyone on the internet is a "he", and I really didn't have any interaction with Seerah, so for me the sex of a person is usually irrelevant |
| 04:14.11 | Torhal | ¯\_(ã)_/¯ |
| 04:14.54 | znf | anyway, meanwhile I fixed my kernel module issue |
| 04:16.00 | Torhal | Was it the magic blue smoke? |
| 04:16.37 | znf | no... I just remembered that when I compiled the module on the 1st box I had enabled a SCL with newer GCC |
| 04:17.20 | Torhal | [20:55:44] znf:same gcc version, same kernel source <-- So you lied? >.> |
| 04:17.29 | znf | nope |
| 04:18.09 | znf | https://i.imgur.com/PsqOtt8.png |
| 04:18.23 | znf | I just completely forgot that you have to enable those for each shell session |
| 04:18.36 | znf | so I was doing --version, but I didn't have the scl profile enabled |
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| 08:14.55 | silentium | why asume anyone's gender when you can just use https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singular_they ? it's been used in literature since at least the 15th century *shrug* |
| 08:22.59 | wink | 50%: because not native speaker |
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| 08:35.53 | nevcairiel | oh man its snowing |
| 08:35.57 | nevcairiel | f that |
| 08:37.05 | wink | i.e. if people are using "he" for the computer or the desk (Germans) I don't see much chance to enlighten them with singular they |
| 08:37.34 | wink | and don't get me started about cats and dogs. Everyone seems to use he/she/it anyway :P |
| 08:41.17 | quiescens | calling someone it/they/etc tends to have a bit of an impolite connotation in english |
| 08:48.49 | Torhal | I used to work with a guy from Colombia who would refer to code he was working on as "he" and it was very surreal to me. |
| 08:58.57 | wink | Torhal: makes total sense if his native language is Spanish. they have the weirdest use of gender I've ever seen in any language. |
| 08:59.54 | wink | i.e. "some cats, all female = female plural form; some cats, all male = male plural form; some cats, some of them male = male plural form" |
| 09:00.51 | wink | maybe German is just too imprecise in that regard though (what? impossible) |
| 09:06.46 | Torhal | strives to only use "cookie" as pronouns regarding quiescens. |
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| 11:07.40 | ls- | Torhal: found a way to "fix" the issue, "clear cache and restart" thingy >_> I wonder if the app ever does it on its own |
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| 13:20.50 | Megalon | purge all the caches |
| 13:32.29 | nebula | caches are a crutch |
| 15:19.52 | Stanzilla | https://skyfallattack.com/ |
| 15:42.26 | quiescens | moo |
| 15:43.39 | nevcairiel | Sounds like attention grabbing and riding on the Spectre wave |
| 15:44.50 | nevcairiel | Hey we found a new way to use the same flaw, let's make up new names |
| 15:47.01 | quiescens | the various names are largely stupid in the first place |
| 15:48.01 | Megalon | i'll do on with the flaws of quiescens |
| 15:48.06 | Megalon | i'll call it CookieCrumbler |
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| 15:58.16 | znf | oh noes |
| 15:58.17 | znf | not the cookiez |
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| 21:14.03 | znf | so basically all shit? https://i.imgur.com/DwuiNGU.png |
| 21:14.30 | znf | or does that timeline work with other browsers, too? |
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| 23:12.31 | znf | I just noticed this in a CentOS 6 install: https://hastebin.com/cohavagere.sql |
| 23:13.45 | nevcairiel | anyone that follows the news on that topic already knows that |
| 23:15.13 | znf | yup, just didn't know that they put it in the kernel log messages |
| 23:15.38 | znf | I don't really have centos6 boxes that I directly manage |
| 23:15.50 | Gnarfoz | I have plenty of those |
| 23:19.53 | znf | Intel is now, like, "old servers? lol, fuck those" |
| 23:20.05 | Gnarfoz | hm? |
| 23:20.13 | Gnarfoz | they initially said "products from the last 5 years" |
| 23:20.19 | Gnarfoz | nothing about that has changed, has it? |
| 23:20.25 | znf | I'm aware |
| 23:20.29 | znf | I have servers older than that |
| 23:20.32 | Gnarfoz | so why are they "now like"? |
| 23:20.41 | Gnarfoz | yeah so do I and it's terrible |
| 23:20.51 | znf | scratch the "now" |
| 23:21.06 | znf | but yeah, basically, "go fuck yourselves, buy new servers" |
| 23:21.42 | znf | I have plenty of E5xxx servers that are still in production :-/ |
| 23:27.14 | Gnarfoz | clearly, you need to buy fresh ones to consolidate 4 of each of those onto 1 new one |
| 23:28.07 | znf | I really don't... |
| 23:28.14 | znf | our market is retarded |
| 23:28.19 | znf | people just want dedicated servers |
| 23:28.25 | znf | they're afraid of VPS |
| 23:28.36 | nevcairiel | i have a dedicated, its still stuck on haswell |
| 23:28.45 | nevcairiel | wonder if i should replace it sometime |
| 23:29.02 | Gnarfoz | mine is an i7 920 |
| 23:29.05 | nevcairiel | my problem with VPS is that most offers are so limited in storage |
| 23:29.07 | Gnarfoz | so, not even sandy bridge |
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| 23:31.05 | Gnarfoz | also, z170 asrock mobo: apparently not being updated anymore, either |
| 23:31.08 | Gnarfoz | gg |
| 23:31.19 | nevcairiel | clearly dont buy asrock again |
| 23:31.24 | nevcairiel | z170 isnt even that old |
| 23:31.47 | Gnarfoz | it got a beta bios with the microcode update for the hyperthreading bug, which was never promoted to stable |
| 23:32.30 | nevcairiel | mine is scheduled to get an update, but didnt yet. considering intel pulled back the current microcode updates, it'll probably delay that some more, too |
| 23:33.53 | Gnarfoz | yeah that's not going to help update cycles |
| 23:34.05 | Gnarfoz | HP has pulled their firmware updates |
| 23:34.11 | Gnarfoz | Dell has attached a notice to them |
| 23:34.16 | Gnarfoz | now I don't know wtf to do |
| 23:34.17 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 23:34.39 | Gnarfoz | but since I need all 7 VM hosts to be patched properly, before vSphere will unlock the new cpuid bits |
| 23:34.45 | Megalon | fux0redfoz? |
| 23:34.45 | nevcairiel | unless you host stuff with direct user access (cloud stuff, vps hosts), wait, i guess |
| 23:34.53 | Gnarfoz | I'm dependent on the HP updates anyway |
| 23:35.03 | znf | supermicro's X9 generation has nothing new planned I guess |
| 23:35.05 | Gnarfoz | yeah I'm not bothered, it's not like vsphere is directly attackable |
| 23:35.08 | znf | X10 are all "Pending" |
| 23:35.23 | Gnarfoz | the guest OS's in the VMs however might be |
| 23:35.27 | znf | so all my supermicro servers (most of my servers that are at least not 10 generations behind) have no updates |
| 23:36.09 | znf | my "cloud" VPS crap is mostly running on Debian 7, tough I do have new kernel updates, they fucked up the openvswitch module on it, so I can't use the new kernel |
| 23:36.25 | znf | I only updated the shared hosting servers, that's about it |
| 23:37.17 | Gnarfoz | asrock website: "Unable to connect to the database. This may be caused by database synchronization. Please try again later." ffs |
| 23:37.24 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 23:37.37 | Gnarfoz | http://www.asrock.com/Microsite/SA00088/ holy splash screen graphic batman |
| 23:38.14 | Gnarfoz | "... and update new BIOS for ASRock 100/200/Z370/X299 series motherboards." - 100 = z170? |
| 23:38.19 | Gnarfoz | or do they mean something else |
| 23:38.37 | Gnarfoz | considering the list that follows, it seems they intend to deliver for my m/b |
| 23:38.52 | nevcairiel | 100-series is z170 and a bunch more, yes |
| 23:38.56 | Gnarfoz | at some point, anyway |
| 23:39.06 | znf | I'm also on Haswell at home |
| 23:39.14 | znf | I bet my mobo is RIP |
| 23:39.40 | nevcairiel | my home server is a haswell chip, but its a Z87 board, thats not going to get updated |
| 23:39.51 | znf | same, also on Z87 |
| 23:40.29 | znf | other than upgrading, what are the fucking options? |
| 23:40.41 | nevcairiel | just ignore it? |
| 23:40.47 | Gnarfoz | torch everything, become a street musician |
| 23:40.53 | Funkeh` | i know a lot of people on z87 :/ |
| 23:41.01 | Funkeh` | crowdfunding for new MBs! |
| 23:41.01 | znf | well, it's my desktop :-/ |
| 23:41.01 | nevcairiel | spectre attacks are not going to be very realistic against end-users |
| 23:41.11 | nevcairiel | it takes way too long to perform them |
| 23:41.19 | Gnarfoz | seems I have twrp on this phone |
| 23:41.28 | Gnarfoz | guess all I need is a Lineage build |
| 23:41.37 | Gnarfoz | "need" |
| 23:41.37 | Megalon | twrp it like it's hot |
| 23:41.46 | znf | Gnarfoz, did you see the Android Go thing? |
| 23:41.52 | Gnarfoz | u wot m8 |
| 23:41.55 | Gnarfoz | (no I didn't) |
| 23:41.56 | znf | the thing https://www.xda-developers.com/android-go-old-android-8-1-oreo/ |
| 23:42.19 | znf | >A Few LineageOS Developers are already building Android Go-optimized custom ROMs |
| 23:42.20 | znf | ^^ |
| 23:42.21 | Gnarfoz | somehow I thought that was the original plan for Android One |
| 23:42.39 | Gnarfoz | well, this is a Galaxy S4, that's hardly low-end |
| 23:42.44 | Gnarfoz | but yeah, maybe for the S1 :P |
| 23:43.05 | Gnarfoz | I only replaced it because the wifi/bt thing broke |
| 23:43.09 | nevcairiel | i just throw phones away when they turn 3 generations old =p |
| 23:43.20 | znf | my phone is 3 generations old! |
| 23:43.34 | Gnarfoz | it made sense for S1 -> S4, but the S4 could have well endured another year or two |
| 23:43.38 | Funkeh` | we just need some new battery tech and then we don't need new phones every year |
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| 23:43.49 | nevcairiel | 3 generations of the phones i purchased i mean, basically i keep the previous one and never look at those beofre that |
| 23:43.50 | Funkeh` | which is probably why we wont get new battery tech |
| 23:43.50 | znf | Funkeh`, we had that, they're called "removable batteries" |
| 23:43.50 | znf | :D |
| 23:43.55 | Gnarfoz | ^ |
| 23:43.58 | Gnarfoz | we don't need phones every new year because of batteries |
| 23:44.08 | Gnarfoz | we don't need phones every year period :D |
| 23:44.33 | znf | I mean, I'm still on G4 |
| 23:44.35 | nevcairiel | mine have usually survived 2-3 years so far |
| 23:44.42 | znf | I have a 2nd battery |
| 23:45.01 | znf | it's nice to be able to swap it out instantly |
| 23:45.04 | Gnarfoz | you can also get the battery replaced by a service center and keep on trucking, if the capacity loss is really bothering you |
| 23:45.22 | znf | I actually had issues finding an OEM battery when I was looking for a new one :-/ |
| 23:45.37 | nevcairiel | nice apparently I get normal-quality antorus loot from the table quest because I got heroic last tier |
| 23:45.38 | znf | every "respectable" importer claimed it was OEM, but turns out they were just chinese clones |
| 23:45.40 | nevcairiel | no crappy lfr shit for me! |
| 23:45.48 | Gnarfoz | ugh I haven't turned this phone on for so long, I don't remember the tricks to nudge the wifi back to life |
| 23:46.06 | Megalon | foz: 1. nippel durch die lasche ziehen! |
| 23:46.09 | Gnarfoz | perhaps it's finally dead |
| 23:46.13 | znf | Gnarfoz, but that sucks (having it replaced) |
| 23:46.21 | Gnarfoz | znf: well, duh |
| 23:46.31 | znf | I really never got a phone back from a service center "the way it used to be" |
| 23:46.32 | nevcairiel | you can also do that yourself <.< |
| 23:46.46 | Gnarfoz | only if you're very adventurous |
| 23:46.47 | znf | nevcairiel, for current gen phones? |
| 23:46.59 | nevcairiel | get an iFixit kit and one of their battery replacement videos =p |
| 23:47.00 | znf | it involves special tools, usually |
| 23:47.02 | Gnarfoz | or don't care about stuff like preserving the ingress protection rating |
| 23:47.19 | znf | yeah, you kind of break the IP rating |
| 23:47.42 | Gnarfoz | iFixit is a great resource for this, but I'd honestly rather pay a professional to do it properly, if possible :D |
| 23:47.48 | znf | sure, there's lots of 3rd party shops that also do it |
| 23:47.49 | Gnarfoz | by which I mean basically Samsung |
| 23:47.53 | znf | but those can be shady, too |
| 23:47.54 | Gnarfoz | not Handytürke um die Ecke |
| 23:48.08 | znf | even those "Samsung Partner" repair shops are shady |
| 23:48.24 | znf | ...apparently it's very damn easy to get that certification :-| |
| 23:49.30 | znf | so what Gnarfoz said - to be sure you get it in perfect condition back, you should send it directly to Samsung or Whatever manufacturer |
| 23:49.34 | znf | ...which takes a few days :-/ |
| 23:49.56 | Gnarfoz | also, if you're at least as paranoid as Funkeh, you probably want to wipe the device beforehand |
| 23:50.22 | Gnarfoz | actually, I would probably do that as well |
| 23:50.33 | znf | in some places they actually ask you to factory reset it so they can test it out |
| 23:50.47 | znf | if you send it locked with a passcode or whatever, they won't fix it :-| |
| 23:51.00 | nevcairiel | if its broken that makes sense |
| 23:51.05 | nevcairiel | if you just want a battery replacement |
| 23:51.25 | Gnarfoz | they have these fancy things these days, they're called multimeters |
| 23:51.31 | Gnarfoz | you can measure things with them |
| 23:52.07 | Gnarfoz | also I'm certain that getting to the device encryption pin entry dialog is proof enough that you connected those two wires correctly |
| 23:52.09 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 23:52.45 | znf | offtopic https://www.pornhub.com/devices/interactive |
| 23:52.46 | znf | :D |
| 23:54.04 | znf | well, everything's offtopic here anyway |
| 23:57.17 | Gnarfoz | more interesting: https://twitter.com/Pornhub/status/953668567714680833 |
| 23:57.25 | Funkeh` | our society is fucked |
| 23:57.35 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 23:57.45 | nevcairiel | hawaiians had some catching up to do |
| 23:58.01 | znf | well, they were stressed for 30 minutes |
| 23:58.27 | Funkeh` | oh god |
| 23:59.06 | znf | then they... relieved the stress :D |
