IRC log for #wowace on 20180109

00:04.54znf"Dark" ending was stupid
00:12.49Stanzillaznf: just prep for season 2
00:13.31znfCan they just film it in English?
00:13.39znfThis was horrible in German
00:13.46znfIt took me 2 weeks to watch it
00:13.56StanzillaI had no problem with German
00:13.58Stanzillawonder why
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01:35.45Funkeh`oh, a new person to complain to about not using SASL auth in their client, Ressy!
01:40.25quiescens/pat Funkeh`
01:40.27quiescensthere there o.o
01:50.35RessyI only logged into freenode to go into another channel for assistance. Logging into freenode auto logs me into all these channels.
01:52.40RessyTrying to get my damned oneplus one to update.
01:56.39Funkeh`Ressy: basically you join with your ip, quit, and then rejoin the channel with your cloak
01:56.45Funkeh`But no idea about your 1+ issue
02:00.00RessyThats odd... Cuz it shows I get my cloak before i join any channel.
02:01.22quiescensgives Ressy a cookie
02:02.21RessySo SASL or SASL external.
02:07.24Funkeh`just normal
02:07.43Ressymkays.. Done.
02:08.09RessyAlso: I fixed my problem with updating. Cuz I rock.
02:08.19quiescens\o/
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04:27.53Funkeh`oh look, WPA3 is coming this year, took long enough
04:33.33quiescensso.. there should be enough support to start using it by around 2022?
04:41.49Torhaldeploys 802.11quiescens.
04:41.55quiescensdies.
04:43.16Funkeh`quiescens: there wil hopefully be some form of auto selection, since there is also talk about some form of encryption for open networks between device and router
05:02.09Fiskerhey Torhal
05:02.14Fiskerever been heyed?
05:19.22Fisker:(
05:47.21Torhalhey Fisker
05:47.23TorhalI'm certain I have.
05:47.55Fiskervery well
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08:27.27znfAlways friendly with expats https://i.imgur.com/rOgGGLx.png
08:27.28znf:-/
08:28.21znfhttps://i.imgur.com/z5m861Z.png
08:28.23znfmkay, let's dig in
08:28.46znfwrong window
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09:26.32quiescensyou has a funny profile icon thingy znf
09:26.34quiescenso.o
09:26.48znfI know
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15:11.15Funkeh`vive pro looks nice
15:13.39nevcairielunless you want to keep buying those every year, best to wait one or two more hardware revisions
15:25.12JustwaitI've love to get one sometime this year
15:25.20Justwaitbut idk if the iterations go that fast
15:25.54nevcairiellast years are still unusable for me
15:26.11nevcairielscreen door effect is way too distracting
15:26.39nevcairieland the bump in res on the vive pro isnt high enough to fully defeat that, so we'll see
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15:31.24znflol https://www.engadget.com/2018/01/09/microsoft-halts-meltdown-spectre-amd-patches/
15:32.59quiescensnerf znf
15:35.44Funkeh`for the 0.1% of people in the world using athlons still
15:36.59quiescensyou never know what znf might be using o.o
16:17.45winknot sure I still have one in the basement
16:17.55winkthere's a ton of stuff in the front
16:20.41Funkeh`dunno why people still gather old tech, at least in the UK we have decent electronic recycling now
16:21.50winkFunkeh`: it's a stabilizing element, if it's still there. the whoel basement thingy is only 3m x 1.5m so everything is piled ontop of other stuff. the towers are the base for the fluffier things like tents, bags, suitcases, packaging in the first 2 year after purchases, a bike, etc.pp :P
16:22.17winkI can't even get to the back half of it right now :(
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17:32.56Funkeh`a wild Elkano appears
17:33.51Elkanoit's not very effective (as usual)
17:39.24Funkeh`it would be more effective if it used SASL auth so it didn't join, leave and then join with its cloak
17:51.36Elkanomy guess would be that didn't exist yet last time I updated any of my IRC scripts ;)
17:52.53Elkanoor well, at least I wasn't aware of it
17:53.11Funkeh`it's been around for some time
18:52.35silentiumalternatively you can use a TLS (SSL) client certificate to authenticate with the services, that way your client doesn't even need to know your password in plain text
18:52.53silentiumhttps://freenode.net/kb/answer/certfp
18:54.25silentiumbut SASL may be supported by more clients, dunno: https://freenode.net/kb/answer/sasl
19:15.50Gnarfoz(or, since that's not the goal of cloaks anyway, funky could just not display things he doesn't care about :D)
19:16.17znfI don't understand the point of a cloak, then
19:16.21znfif it's not that, then what?
19:16.26znfjust showing off that you are part of a project?
19:16.28znfseems futile
19:16.28Gnarfozshowing affiliation with projects
19:17.05Gnarfoz(cf. https://freenode.net/kb/answer/cloaks)
19:17.11Funkeh`btw
19:17.18znfoh, crap, they close Carrefour at 22:00 now
19:17.19Funkeh`why did he do the name change and then contact them?
19:17.41Funkeh`i would have just left it as is
19:17.43znflink was in the other channel
19:17.47Gnarfozprobably because he wanted to play
19:18.02Gnarfozhe's on an rp pvp realm, so common sense doesn't apply anyway
19:18.14Funkeh`znf: oops
19:23.46Funkeh`Gnarfoz: without expanding on what "tricks" there are, for average joe using SASL, it masks IP just fine
19:24.01Funkeh`re: the 4 bullet points on that article
19:24.14Gnarfozfor that joe, masking their ip is also pointless
19:24.44Funkeh`elaborate
19:24.48Gnarfoz(and I bet that bullet point was written before they implemented SASL)
19:25.17Gnarfozdo you expect to be ddosed or internet-bullied in some other point where your hostname might be relevant information for someone?
19:25.21GnarfozI don't
19:25.37Funkeh`i used to be all the time on QN :D
19:25.54Gnarfozthis is not quakenet though, and quakenet does support usermode +x (contrary to freenode)
19:26.44Funkeh`it's an IRC server, how is it any different
19:26.57Gnarfozthe audience
19:27.01Funkeh`anecdotal
19:27.11Gnarfozindeed, quakenet is of the past
19:27.14Gnarfoz^^
19:27.52Gnarfozit's at least 50% abandoned bouncers and channel-holding bots now
19:29.13Funkeh`ok, so your argument that cloaks are flawed is that average joe doesn't need one because cross your fingersonly good guys on this server
19:40.01Gnarfozno: firsly: that they're not intended for is not my claim, it's freenode's; secondly: I said the reverse: most people are not targets, not "no baddies here"; lastly: I'm just baffled by your sudden crusade of telling multiple people to "fix" their setup, when you could just filter those messages on your end and be done with it... but you seem to be convinced you're actually helping them? I guess I'll let this be my last comment on the matter ^^
19:42.36Gnarfoz(also, since the interwebs can often make things sound harsher than intended: keep in mind most of the time I spend on IRC is just a pastime, it's not like I'm somehow terribly offended by any of this :P)
19:52.15znfthis is cool
19:52.21znfI boot server via KVM
19:52.30znfI install OS
19:52.34znfI finish install. I reboot.
19:52.39znfKVM dead. Server doesn't boot.
19:52.40znf?!!
19:56.37Gnarfozidrac/etc dying so they're unusable: a common occurence, sadly
19:58.22znfyeah, but...
19:58.29znfwhat baffles me is that it died at the end
19:58.43znfyou know after you install ubuntu, you get the whole "remove media bla bla bla"
19:58.46znfonce it reset, RIP
19:58.51znfnetwork is dead, too, on all ports
19:59.31znfI have a 2nd server in that chasis...
19:59.34znfI'm afraid to start it lol
20:01.07Gnarfozobviously, they always die when it's inconvenient
20:01.26Gnarfozdo you have ones with dedicated LAN ports?
20:01.30znfyup
20:02.09znfoh well
20:02.13znfGnarfoz, https://i.imgur.com/2b6kyGF.png
20:02.21Gnarfozmaxteufel
20:02.31Gnarfozthis is not the search bar
20:04.02znfI bought 30k of a stupid coin at 0.00000010 BTC each
20:04.10znfnow they're worth 0.00000055 each :D
20:04.18znf+450% increase
20:40.31winkGnarfoz: cloaks WOULD've been really useful 15 years ago when everybody and their mom could DDoS your ISDN dialup :P But relogging fixed it even back then...
20:40.57Gnarfoz(still not their intended purpose)
20:41.02winkalso I'd say with dsl/cable routers the computers themselves are less vulnerable to direct contact now
20:41.03winkI know
20:41.19winkbut it's being used like bouncers, by some quota of people
20:41.36znfStanzilla, what's this about overwatch league
20:41.41winkcreative use of cloaks :P
20:41.44znfand other than a free skin, what is it in for me?
20:41.45Gnarfozwhat "this", znf?
20:41.50Gnarfozhave you been living under a rock
20:41.55Stanzillaznf: nothing
20:42.14znfso just a free skin?
20:42.17Gnarfozoverwatch league is Blizzard's big push to get esports more into mainstream, like Starcraft in Korea
20:42.23Stanzilla^
20:42.42znfwhy does it need a fucking menu item in my game client?
20:42.46Gnarfozwith city-based teams like in "traditional sports"
20:42.51Gnarfozprobably because you can watch from there
20:42.55Gnarfozor get linked to twitch or whatever?
20:43.03Gnarfoz(assuming here, ahven't started OW in a year)
20:43.11Stanzillait is its own shop
20:43.14Stanzillawith its own currency
20:43.24znfcan I earn that currency somehow? or just buy for $$?
20:43.26Gnarfozmerch?
20:43.29Stanzilla$$$
20:43.35Stanzillano, ingame shop
20:43.37Stanzillaskins etc
20:43.37Gnarfozwith electrocoin!
20:43.39Funkeh`it's $1200 for all the skins
20:43.39znffuck that
20:43.45Funkeh`incoming rage fest
20:43.51znfdo they drop in loot boxs?
20:43.53GnarfozFunkeh's curse poitns will pay for that in a jiffy
20:44.01znfbecause I'm sick of getting all fucking dupes all day long
20:44.06Funkeh`not to my knowledge znf
20:56.05winkdoes znf get curse points for swearing?
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20:56.33Gnarfozat least for broker_artifact and breeze!
20:56.49Megalonno system is perfect
21:21.49Gnarfozwonder if my mainboard is going to get Spectre updates
21:28.10znfI didn't even patch
21:38.52Gnarfozyou're the wurst
21:39.07Gnarfoznevcairiel: shouldn't Windows provide the microcode update as well? hmm
21:41.09znfbelow lvl100 player
21:41.12znfpicks widow
21:41.14znfdoesn't kill shit
21:41.18znf"OMG GUYS YOU DO NO DPS"
21:41.27znfsure mate, I'm Moira and I have gold damage & heal... but yeah
21:41.58Megalonyea, what he said
21:48.45znfsteals Megalon's country
21:49.09Megalonbut it's still here
21:49.20znf...so you think
21:49.40Megalonwell, then you got kurz and strache as heads of state
21:49.47Megalonhave fun and good luck
21:49.50Megalonyou'll need it
21:51.27znfhaha, trade you our PM
21:51.59znf>c 1 eth to usd
21:52.00Catal1na1 ETH == 1254.96 USD (03+8.54%) https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/ethereum
21:52.13Megalonno trade, only steal :)
21:52.39znf>c 1 LINDA to BTC
21:52.40Catal1na1 LINDA == 0.0000005365 BTC (03+14.50%) https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/linda
21:52.58znfc'mon baby, hit 0.000001
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22:05.47Megalonn8
22:06.21Funkeh`>c 1 dogecoin to usd
22:06.23Catal1naError: no such currency
22:06.45znf>c 1 doge to usd
22:06.46Catal1na1 DOGE == 0.0144997 USD (04-4.31%) https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/dogecoin
23:00.29nevcairielGnarfoz: you would think so, but microsoft only very rarely distributes microcode updates - also, sometimes you really want that loaded before the OS gets involved anyway
23:01.24Gnarfozyeah, sure
23:01.38Gnarfozthis seems like a good time to do it, though :D
23:03.01GnarfozMicrocode Revision, BIOS: 00 => Windows: 00, Status:0
23:03.02Gnarfozhmmm.
23:03.12nevcairielall zeros doesnt sound right
23:03.16nevcairielmaybe your tool fuzzed out
23:03.29Gnarfozblame Mr. Stiller
23:04.05Gnarfoz0506E3  00BA   0036  EEB3BD5A  04-09-2017  0001   17FD0  18000
23:04.22Gnarfozbut that's just what the MS DLL contains, if I'm reading the output right
23:04.52nevcairielmy cpu is apparently on "2E", according to AIDA
23:06.08Gnarfozhwinfo64 says BA as well
23:06.11Gnarfoznot sure if that's accurate
23:06.30nevcairielthe docs about my cpu have some long number for the microcode
23:06.35nevcairieldoesnt seem right what it reports
23:07.01nevcairiel200003c is the one in the Intel package from yesterday with fixes
23:07.17nevcairieloh  hwinfo64 reports it
23:07.27nevcairielapparently i'm on 200002E
23:08.32nevcairielwhat cpu do you have again?
23:08.38Gnarfoz6700k
23:09.00nevcairielthats skylake right? then ba was the most recent microcode until this week, at least
23:09.49nevcairielthe update would be C2, if you can remember that until such a time when an update is available =p
23:10.01Gnarfozhttps://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/27431/Linux-Processor-Microcode-Data-File
23:10.21Gnarfozwell my work laptop is also skylake, I just need to remember *that* and can then compare the two
23:10.49nevcairielvmware has a microcode update driver which you can feed the file from the linux package, if you're so inclined
23:10.55nevcairielbut its been a while since i used it
23:11.14GnarfozI'd have to do that on each boot, that'd get annoying quick
23:11.24nevcairielhttps://labs.vmware.com/flings/vmware-cpu-microcode-update-driver
23:11.31nevcairielnah it supposedly does that on boot
23:11.47Gnarfozinteresting
23:12.03GnarfozI wonder how that ended up being a thing, and even a thing they semi-published
23:12.54Gnarfozhttps://labs.vmware.com/flings/vmware-cpu-microcode-update-driver#comments claim that the microcode updates for spectre are not even out? that does sound more like uninformed people
23:13.03Gnarfoz(considering my laptop is already patched)
23:13.07nevcairielwell the update is dated on the 8th
23:13.13nevcairielthe firmware package
23:13.18nevcairielso might have been close
23:13.48Gnarfozmost likely
23:14.16nevcairieland hardware vendors providing new bios  updates that quickly is more the exception then the rule
23:14.20nevcairieli wonder how long i have to wait =p
23:14.21Gnarfozwhy the hell do I have a user called RDV GRAPHICS SERVICE oO
23:14.41Gnarfozasrock actually published a beta bios for the hyper threading bug thing
23:15.10Gnarfozdid MS distribute the fixed version for that? I don't see how else I would have "BA", since I'm still on the latest stable BIOS which doesn't have that update
23:17.08nevcairielyour dump earlier suggests that  they might have
23:18.38Gnarfozgood point
23:19.23Gnarfozhm, doesn't seem to be doing anything
23:19.25Gnarfozthe vmware thing
23:19.42nevcairielthe installation is a bit tricky, did you follow the guide closely? :)
23:19.46Gnarfoz"If you have an AMD processor and do not want to obtain an Intel firmware file then you can also create an empty "microcode.dat" file instead." -- guess I have to do that in reverse
23:20.16nevcairielyou can also check the registry for the BIOS microcode version, ie. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\DESCRIPTION\System\CentralProcessor\0
23:20.52nevcairiel"Update Revision" is the current version, "Previous Update Revision" is what it was on boot
23:21.17Gnarfozthank god for that url bar on regedit
23:21.32Gnarfozba, 74
23:21.37Gnarfozso, indeed
23:23.36Gnarfoz"Successfully updated microcode on one or more CPUs. "
23:23.52Gnarfoz(a lie, clearly, hwinfo and the registry claim no change)
23:24.08nevcairielwho knows w hen the r egistry refreshes
23:24.17nevcairielmay just be  stored there from the MS microcode update driver
23:24.34Gnarfoz(actually, every second core in the registry claims previous version is ba, guess that's an artifact of hyper threading)
23:24.50Gnarfozif hwinfo only reads from the registry, that'd be consistent
23:24.52nevcairiel..and who knows how hwinfo works, maybe it just reads the registry
23:25.41Gnarfozanyway
23:25.48GnarfozI guess I can try rebooting
23:26.06Gnarfozbut the comments on vmware labs also suggest that this doesn't load early enough for the Windows part of the mitigation to realize it should load
23:26.23nevcairielyeah thats the problem with microcode update in drivers
23:27.05nevcairielI had quite annoying issues on a haswell system then they turned off TSX in microcode because its broken
23:27.35nevcairielbut some parts of the libc initialized earlier and thought it was present, and stuff randomly segfaulted
23:27.44Gnarfozat the risk of breaking my install
23:27.55GnarfozI could change the 'start type' of the driver to "boot" :D
23:28.03Gnarfozinstead of auto
23:28.13quiescenswhat could possibly go wrong
23:28.20Gnarfozindeed
23:28.22Gnarfoz(or "system")
23:28.42nevcairielon linux you get the option of putting the microcode into the initrd so its updated even before the kernel loads, that solves such issues =p
23:29.23znfI still don't know what a microcode is
23:29.33quiescensits a really small code
23:29.48nevcairielits the firmware for the CPU
23:29.57znfhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/DTIiOnqU0AAp7SD.jpg:large
23:29.58znfwait, metal?
23:29.59znf:o
23:30.17nevcairieldont get excited, metal is osx only and already supported today
23:30.33znfoh :(
23:30.44Gnarfozsee?
23:30.54Gnarfozmy prediction has already come true :p
23:31.08nevcairielthats exactly what I thought would happen, they should just go w ith platform specific strings
23:31.16quiescenswhich prediction was this?
23:31.37nevcairiel<Gnarfoz> inb4 Windows people will think they mean Vulkan
23:31.39nevcairieli guess
23:31.45quiescensoic
23:31.46znfhey, I'm drunk, fuck off
23:31.56quiescensgives znf a cookie
23:32.02znfquiescens, MOAR
23:32.42znfI need another car, Gnarfoz!
23:32.59Gnarfozcar multiboxer
23:33.14quiescensreport him
23:34.09znfseriously considering a 7er
23:34.54Gnarfozy tho
23:34.55Gnarfozwtf :P
23:34.58nevcairielwhat did you do to your car
23:35.10znfnevcairiel, nothing, it's just not worth fixing the little things anymore
23:35.11znf:-/
23:35.22nevcairielthen dont, and keep driving it until it doesnt
23:35.29znfnevcairiel, looks like shit tough
23:35.39znfit's a bit dented on the right side
23:35.46nevcairielits a tool, supposed to get you places
23:36.06znfI've been trying all fucking week to get a mechanic to change my damn break pads
23:36.31znfI've been running around with new break pads in my trunk for a week now
23:36.37znfgod.. I hate mechanics sometimes
23:36.38znfalways so busy
23:37.04quiescensnot sure if thats really their fault
23:37.15Gnarfozhave you heard of the concept of an appointment
23:37.33Gnarfozcall garage, make appointment, get things replaced
23:37.39znfGnarfoz, yes, sure, "can I come next week?" - "ah, no, we have time in 2 weeks"
23:37.40znf?!??
23:37.56Gnarfozso... 1 of those 2 weeks would already be over by now
23:38.05nevcairielif you had done that last week when you got the break pads, you would be half through that period already
23:38.16Gnarfozon top of that, if you move "call garage" to before "buy brake pads", you can streamline it even more! :D
23:38.54znfunfortunately I had to leave town, to go to work for a while
23:39.03znfthen x-mass & new year's
23:39.06znfso on, so on
23:39.49znfand now I have to go back to Bucharest next week, again
23:40.52Gnarfozspeaking of calling places, did I mention I'm too dumb to subtract 3 months from "March" and end up with "December"? ^^
23:41.08nevcairielwell you seem to have figured that out now
23:41.34Gnarfozindeed, I'm staying with o2 again (this was the outcome anyway)
23:41.44nevcairielpoor you
23:41.46Gnarfozbut at 10€ below what the plan usually costs
23:41.57Gnarfozso at least I'm saving a bunch of money ^^
23:42.12nevcairieli barely pay 10 for my plan as it is
23:42.14Gnarfozfor more data
23:42.37Gnarfozthe next step down is 1 GB
23:42.38nevcairielbut i never was a big mobile data user, not like i stream music or youtube
23:42.41Gnarfozthat's... a bit too little
23:42.53nevcairielI usually justt  listen to pre-downloaded audio books when traveling by train =p
23:42.59znfI barely used 5GB last month
23:43.05quiescensi don't even use the 1gb o.o
23:43.08znfbut that's because I was around 3 weeks in Bucharest
23:43.17znfand my phone didn't connect to any WiFi at all
23:43.26znfbut I'm under 1GB usually, heck, even less
23:43.39znfI don't really leave the house :D
23:44.38znfToday I got this http://linux-sunxi.org/Sunvell_R69
23:44.44znfwonder if I should slap linux on it
23:45.03Gnarfozactually they offered me what I didn't expect, to move to the monthly-terminable plan
23:45.39Gnarfoz(while maintaining the already auto-extended plan, of course, but that'd still have been in 13 months vs. in 24... but at like almost double the price)
23:47.14quiescenswe have like, initial contracts, but they all turn into month-by-month once the initial period is over
23:47.25znfI have to write 21 systemd service files tomorow :-|
23:48.09nevcairielGnarfoz: I left o2 because of the bad coverage in my area, they tried to offer me things, but building a new tower wasnt included, so what can you do
23:48.10znf>c 55 ella to usd
23:48.29Gnarfoznevcairiel: yeah I did point out to them that I wanted to terminate the contract for a reason
23:48.36Gnarfozbut what can you do, I did this to myself ;p
23:48.43znflooks at Catal1na
23:48.49Gnarfozquiescens: that'd be sort-of sane
23:49.24Gnarfozmost of our carriers cover the "you must offer a 12 month maximum contract" by offering monthly-terminable plans but at an increased monthly fee
23:49.43Gnarfozs/" b"/" requirement b/
23:49.51Gnarfozblah.
23:51.26Catal1na55 ELLA == 224.1635 USD (03+37.65%) https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/ellaism

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