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00:24.23silentiumreminds me of ghostcrawler back in the day, he was "the one to blame" for every little detail change as well
00:31.05Stanzillayeah
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13:35.10Stanzillahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp2rhM8YUZY&feature=youtu.be
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14:46.37Fiskerold Stanzilla
14:46.40FiskerBut I liked it
17:09.45quiescensmoo
18:39.38znfStanzilla: why is github so slow :(
18:39.44znffucking 100KB/sec :-|
18:39.54Funkeh`shit pc
18:40.04znf...no
18:40.13znfI HAVE GPU POWER
18:40.15znflots of it!
18:40.32Funkeh`powered by NiceHash
18:40.39Megalonbut you lack cpu power
18:40.50znfnot
18:40.53Megalonyou are a retard in an aventador
18:40.54znfI would mine for them, even after the breach :P
18:41.12znfseems to be the best option instead of chasing dozens of altcoins
18:45.08Funkeh`no clue about it, don't they take a cut
18:54.26znfyeah, but they swap cryptocurrencies often so you can mine the most profitable coin all the time
18:54.33znfand they handle the payout directly in BTC
18:54.40znfnot having to handle billion types of wallets
18:54.46znfand then handling the exchange yourself
18:54.56Funkeh`i didn't really understand the breach
18:55.07Funkeh`surely it would only affect you if you stored their wallet online
18:55.13Funkeh`what if you have your own wallet
18:55.25znfI *think* I did
18:55.33znfthey have a rather high treshold of payout
18:55.47znfand they keep the BTC in their wallet, after the treshold, they send you the BTC to your wallet
18:55.52Funkeh`so basically you lost everything that was pending to be transfered into your wallet
18:56.01znfand from what I understand, they lost every pending shit
18:56.02znfyeah
18:56.06znfthat's my understanding
18:56.10Funkeh`i see
18:56.11znfand they had A LOT of miners
18:56.22znfa friend lost $4k, had it stored in their wallet
18:56.48Funkeh`what the benefit over just installing a wallet on your pc and keeping it local
18:57.03znflike I said, their service switches cryptocurrencies
18:57.12znfbasically, you are not "mining" for yourself, you are selling your hashing power
18:57.16Funkeh`al 4k was pending?
18:57.20Funkeh`all*
18:57.27znfso, if right now ETH mining is profitable, they switch all the clients connected to them to ETH
18:57.29znfyeah
18:57.34znfthat's what he implied
18:57.41nevcairielmining for BTC using normal PCs is wasteful at best anyway
18:57.51znfnow, tomorow if there's another altcoin that is more profitable, they switch all their clients to that coin
18:57.55nevcairielall those weird other coins are probably better
18:57.59znfyup
18:58.12znfand they do the exchange themselves, and they pay you directly in bitcoins, from what I understand
18:58.32Funkeh`it sounds like there is a long wait for payout
18:58.49znfthe alternative is to install the local wallet on your pc (or rely on exchanges or web wallets) for each alt-coin
18:59.10znf...and all these altcoins don't have "light" wallets
18:59.14znfso you have to download the full chain
18:59.20znfand basically become a node
18:59.37znfwhich sucks because: disk space really adds up (the XMR one was ~20GB last time I checked)
18:59.49nevcairielfor some dumb wallet?
18:59.51znfand 2) being a full node takes a lot of CPU power, for some fucking reasons
18:59.52znfyeah
19:00.12znfif I run the XMR wallet/daemon, I get my disk trashed
19:00.17znfand 30-40% CPU usage
19:00.26znfnow, for the zcash wallet, the sync took 2 fucking days
19:00.33znfand it's only 1GB in size
19:00.40Funkeh`not enough peers?
19:00.51znfdoesn't seem to be about peers
19:01.04znfbecause while it downloaded it kept my CPU at 20-30%
19:01.12znfI had to stop it to play overwatch :-/
19:01.22znfso it's doing some computation(s) while you download it
19:01.29znfand no, it's not mining, just syncing takes a shitloads
19:01.32Funkeh`btc wallets dont seem to have this issue
19:01.41znfBTC has a "light" mode from what I recall
19:01.55znfand it doesn't require you to hold the whole blockchain/ledger
19:02.14Funkeh`the one i looked at does, btc core
19:02.28znfthe core is not light, afaik?
19:02.42Funkeh`mkay
19:02.53znfthere are light ones, if I recall corectly, not sure on the specifics, I haven't checked that area in a while, I just keep my BTC on Coinbase
19:03.12znfright now I'm looking into another currency which is "supposed to" blow up - ETH like, called ELLA
19:03.25Funkeh`i need to lok into setting up a wallet and see if people would use it for donations
19:03.26znfand they have this github hosted website where you just create your wallet and download the private keys
19:04.00znfalso, doing altcoins sucks because you have to exchange them to something that is remotely useful
19:04.08Funkeh`is that on NiceHash]
19:04.10znfso you need to look into an exchange
19:04.34znfNiceHash does it themselves, they handle the altcoin exchange for you
19:04.46Funkeh`i mean this new one you're talking about
19:04.48znflike I mentioned, they just send you the BTC in your provided wallet
19:04.52znfah, ELLA
19:04.56znfdunno yet, their website is down :D
19:05.05znfI think it is, I see their client supports it
19:05.26znfhttp://ella.minerpool.net/#/help <-- says something about using the NiceHash client
19:06.02Funkeh`ill try remember to look at it when their website is alive again
19:07.04znfholy shit the hashign speed
19:07.11znfoh wait, it's slow, nvm :D
19:08.28znfhttp://ella.minerpool.net/#/account/0x66746252ED32bD1bA3e5909A529365575f56A67d
19:09.41Funkeh`so many numbers
19:09.54znfyeah :D
19:10.11znfI've barely scraped the surface of all this whole cryptoshit
19:10.45znfI've put all my idle servers to mine XMR :D
19:10.48znfhttps://dwarfpool.com/xmr/address?wallet=41gL29idzgH9hu27piELjyjVmacephsXiba2iiA8ycyDYpS8LfKBF9c6Kqx6NqdSfyZHK73pgTXVNiN8DJRXjie7VihVpMU
19:11.04znfNext 24h earning with this speed  7.697400 USD
19:11.23nevcairielthats not a lot =p
19:11.33znfjust CPU mining, like I said
19:11.46nevcairielthe energy might cost you more =p
19:11.48znfthe zCASH miner was bringing in $15/day on the GPU rig
19:11.58znfat 1200Whr
19:12.12znfyou sort of need to strike out a balance
19:12.33znfin power use and clock/mem frequencies
19:13.19znfie: for zCASH I was able to go from 120W to 140W power usage per card
19:13.26znfbut the increase wasn't proportional in hashing power
19:13.56znffrench-dude said that an optimal use is 100W
19:14.04znfper GPU
19:14.33nevcairielOC always increases the power cost exponentially
19:14.40znfyup
19:14.44znfI'm actually downclocking the core
19:14.49znfby -250Mhz
19:14.58znfbut OC-ing the memory by 1300Mhz
19:15.13znfone problem I seem to be having is fucking CPU usage :-|
19:15.18znfthe CPU is too slow for the miner
19:15.23znfand no, I'm not mining on it
19:15.38znfload avg. of 8.0
19:16.20nevcairieljust from the mining software?
19:16.31znfyup
19:16.37znfI run a blank X
19:16.50znfI even stopped nvidia-smi
19:16.54znf(it was on a loop)
19:17.04znfit's perfectly at 8.0 load avg :D
19:17.11znfit's like 1 GPU is using the equivalent of a CPU
19:17.22znfoh right, I'm also running the proxy
19:18.12znfbut that is irrelevant to CPU cycles, so meh
19:19.19znf80W max usage for one of the cards
19:19.23znfranging from 64 to 80 (??!)
19:20.00znfgonna try Claymore's miner
19:20.04znfbut that shit has a devfee
19:27.02znfETH - Total Speed: 197.161 Mh/s, Total Shares: 2, Rejected: 0, Time: 00:00
19:27.03znfnice.
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19:37.04znf*tries to break 200MH/s*
19:40.25znfETH - Total Speed: 200.149 Mh/s, Total Shares: 36, Rejected: 0, Time: 00:13
19:40.26znffuck yeah
19:40.27znfI'm good :D
19:44.11Funkeh`what did you do
19:45.10znf+1475Mhz memory
19:45.25znf-200Mhz core
19:45.36znfand increased power limit to 140W
19:45.42znftough I'm not hitting it yet
19:46.31znf*tries 1500Mhz*
19:46.54znfI'm actually surprised I haven't crashed the system like last time
19:53.01znfok, 1600Mhz is max
19:53.05znfat 1700 it crashes the system
19:54.39znfmkay, reboot -f while I can
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20:17.17znfhttp://ella.minerpool.net/#/account/0x66746252ED32bD1bA3e5909A529365575f56A67d
20:17.18znfw00t
20:18.33znfnote to self:
20:18.41znfslapping 1600Mhz on it directly does not work
20:18.46znfincrementing by 100 until 1600 works :D
20:18.57nevcairielin other words, its too high
20:19.53znfstable tough at 1600 once "warmed up"
20:19.58znfI tried 1700 and nope
20:20.40znfsurprisingly, I limited to 100W and I saw no decrease in hash rate
20:25.29znfI'm not sure what's going on with nvidia-smi
20:25.40znfit only shows me GPU usage for 4 GPUs
20:25.46znf>xau 1 btc to usd
20:25.47Catal1na1.00 BTC == 14285.71 USD
20:30.10znfscratch that
20:30.14znfnot stable at 1600mhz
20:30.16znfcrash incoming
20:35.59znfw00t, I mined a whole ELLA coin, for... $0.5
20:36.01znfI'm rich!
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