IRC log for #wowace on 20171208

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00:03.31znfhastebin down? o.o
00:21.36Gnarfozsame behavior as smb's instance
00:21.42Gnarfozcan't save new pastes :(
00:22.34znfcan't retrieve old pastes either
00:25.31quiescensdid you break another thing
00:26.56znfyes, I broke the cookie-maker
00:27.14quiescens):
00:33.54Lejvingmy heart broke since I can't fix the pet/vehicle/thing pod targeting :(
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00:52.21Gnarfozwell, you've only made some cryptic remarks about vehicles/pods/pets... what even is the issue?
00:52.39Gnarfozalso, maybe try #wowuidev next door, there isn't much addon coding going on in this channel anymore ;D
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01:23.23znfGnarfoz, I done the math. I can't fit 400 GPUs in the datacenter \o/
01:23.45Gnarfozso you don't have to deal with their shit?
01:23.50znfdunno
01:24.10nebulai remember p3lim talking with dan about some ui changes with how people in vehicles are shown a bit ago
01:24.43znfoh wait
01:24.47znf>math calc 400 * 120
01:24.48Catal1na`48000
01:24.51znfOh.
01:24.57znfit's only 48kW Hr
01:25.28znffor some reasons I read as 480kW
01:26.24znfGnarfoz, also I found cheap PDUs http://www.ebay.fr/itm/GEIST-15120Q-RCUBN243-102PK3PS56-PDU-Switched-Out-Mon-20A-230-400V-60811-CABLE/201810338011
01:27.49GnarfozFrench PDUs? better hope they don't give up as soon as the fighting (for power) starts
01:28.41znf"D
01:28.49znfat least they're not fucking 1.5€ each
01:28.51znf1.5k
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01:36.22znfuh, did you see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e12k-7c57d4 Stanzilla ?
01:43.42znfGnarfoz, also, not french
01:43.43znfit's Geist
01:44.06znfso, american
02:16.50znf>xau 1 btc to usd
02:16.51Catal1na`1.00 BTC == 17241.38 USD
02:16.53znfyup
02:27.42pompyZzZZzZZZ
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09:28.49Stanzillaznf: yeah
09:51.29Gnarfozznf: well, they're not 1500€ each because they're used ;D
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11:22.31Gnarfoznevcairiel: already ordered your Titan V? :D
11:23.53nevcairieldont like reference designs
11:24.18znfGnarfoz: well, they're just fancy extension cords :P
11:24.48Gnarfozwell... you'd hope they're a bit more sophisticated :D
11:27.25znfThe electrical part isn't, actually
11:27.34znfI have one that has network monitoring
11:27.42znfBut the module has broken somehow
11:28.11znfThe important parts - the outlets - still work just fine
11:28.24GnarfozI'm sure they have more fuses than a power strip :D
11:28.24znfAnd the breaker is mechanical anyway
11:28.37znfThose are mechanical
11:28.44Gnarfozso?
11:28.48Gnarfozand nonexistent in power strips
11:28.50Gnarfoz:D
11:28.53znfOr whatever they're called
11:29.24znfMy point is that it shouldn't really matter if it's new or used
11:29.51znfNot like it had moving parts that are experience fatigue
11:30.11Gnarfozit does have parts that experience fatigue: all of the connectors
11:30.22Gnarfozprobably a non-issue though
11:35.23znfYup
11:35.40znfThey're also switched PDUs
11:35.43znfAt 300eur
11:35.47znfThat's a steal
11:48.50Gnarfozstealing them would be even cheaper
11:52.28znfIndeed it would
11:53.17Phixionhttps://i.phx.ms/s/7bd287e7.jpg :-)
11:54.30Gnarfoz"make it yours" = stealing
11:54.32Phixionguess its dremmel time tonight
11:54.54Gnarfozpcmastercaserace
11:55.18Phixionpc case its a furniture nowadays
11:55.33Phixionis*
11:55.36hastestill hides his case away under a desk
11:55.48znfWhy would you mount it vertical?
11:55.57znfI'm not sure I get it
11:56.02hasteso you can look at the top of it!
11:56.11hasteand use that space for something :D
11:56.16hasteand block all other slots
11:57.28nevcairielsome cases actually have it setup in such a way that it doesnt block all slots, if its wide enough, but thise appears to block everything
11:57.38nevcairielbut yeah some people want to look at their gpu through their window case
11:58.04hasteI remember I thought windows on a case was a must
11:58.07nevcairielbut many consumers dont use any other slots a nyway
11:58.11haste18 years ago :D
11:58.40hastegotta have those cathode lights as well
11:59.00nevcairielthese days the big premium thing is using actual glass panels on one side
11:59.19hasteyeah, I recently upgraded my old rig
11:59.23hasteso many strange cases now
11:59.49nevcairielit was really hard to find a functional case with the features I wanted, instead of all this modern shit with lights and glass everywhere
11:59.55nevcairielhad to get one from a couple years ago
12:00.22hasteI went for Fractal Design Define S
12:00.44hasteI'd rather have mini-itx, but was hard to find a motherboard with the features I wanted that didn't block the CPU cooler :(
12:00.49nevcairieli looked into that, but i still wanted a optical bay, so i used a fractal design r5
12:01.05hasteI luckily didn't require that :D
12:01.18nevcairieli would've probably used the S if i decided to dump the odd
12:01.21nevcairielmaybe next case
12:01.41znfMy odd is not even connected
12:01.56znfIt's an old ide dvd-rw
12:01.56hasteI haven't had one for 7-8 years
12:01.58znf:D
12:02.13hasteUsed a external one at some point
12:02.26nevcairieli thought about getting an external one
12:02.27znfWhen I changed mobo, I didn't realize it didn't have an ide connector
12:02.36znfBut I left it in the case
12:02.41nevcairieland i still use it to rip blurays regularly
12:02.53znfI bought an external one for $20
12:03.02znfUse it twice a year or so
12:03.38nevcairieli might get an external one when I upgrade to a UHD BD drive, once decryption software isnt so shitty and russian anymore
12:03.55GnarfozI should find a case to put my internal bd/rw odd into... that does exist, I'm sure?
12:04.06Gnarfozthen I could fit more HDDs into the case! :D
12:04.10hasteprobably
12:04.30hasteI'm at a point where I'm thinking about putting all my storage in a rack somewhere
12:04.37Gnarfozeverything to avoid having to deal with figuring out how to separate my storage from my desktop
12:04.44nevcairiellol
12:04.52hasteTook out most of my HDD and replaced them with three 4TBs
12:05.09nevcairielmy main system only has SSDs now, but i have a separate storage box on the side
12:05.14znfWho needs storage when you have gigabit :D
12:05.19hasteexactly
12:05.45Gnarfozwe don't have gigabit, is the answer to that
12:05.51nevcairielolder stuff gets harder to find over time
12:06.14GnarfozI think I have 4x4TB 3x3TB and 1x2TB
12:06.21hasteWe do have a storage box for that
12:06.22Gnarfozhmm wait that's not enough drives
12:06.25hastewith 16x4TB
12:06.37hastebut at this point we might as well move all those into a rack server
12:07.13hasteactually need to look into some cloud fs stuff
12:07.26hastegotta have the ability to move servers without downtime between hosts :D
12:07.30nevcairielyeah my storage box has around 53tb of usable space with 16 or so drives and dual parity, its still good for a long time, but it lives in my apartment with me, so..
12:07.47hastewe have our in a closet
12:08.05hasteout of the way, makes no annoying sound and gets enough cooling somehow
12:08.11nevcairielheh
12:08.16GnarfozI'm still trying to avoid doing that... various pain points: cloud backup, pooling, what to put on it and what to leave on the desktop, workflows for the things that end up on the server... meh
12:08.26nevcairielunfortunately i dont have a closet like that to hide it away
12:08.32nevcairielwould like to, t hough, but my place is small
12:08.38nevcairielshould really look into moving next year
12:08.43Gnarfoz(also where to put it is also an issue, I don't really have room)
12:14.42hasteLooking forward to when SSDs get big enough that you can build a decent size NAS with them
12:14.46hasteand cheap enough I guess :D
12:15.07Gnarfozyeah, size is not even really the issue at this point, price is
12:16.37znfDon't think that will be any time soon
12:16.39znf:(
12:16.49znfThey seem to have plateaud
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13:40.24Gnarfozhttps://heise.de/-3912265 yay, Chrome Apps ded
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15:49.32Kalrothdid you order two TITAN Vs yet, nevcairiel??
15:49.59nevcairiel[12:23:53] <nevcairiel> dont like reference designs
15:50.11nevcairielyou are so late!
15:50.19Kalroth:D
15:50.25quiescensjust ziptie some extra fans to them
15:50.46Kalrothmaybe ASUS will make a custom model with three fans and sell it for $2799
15:51.04nevcairieldoubt they are allowed to
15:51.24Kalrothyeah, the tesla is nvidias personal profit hog
16:00.11harlshould be $1000 per fan minimum
16:00.28harlfans are important & expensive
17:06.32Megalonbut you can get 1000 fans for $1 on facebook
17:06.46Megalonwhat a bargain!
17:09.47Timmehbut are they as good as ASUS fans?
17:11.19Timmehmaybe you get Taiwanese fans for that $1, instead of ASUS fans. OH WAIT!
17:11.52Timmeh(yes, I first had to wikipedia to see what country ASUS is from to make that joke)
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19:30.55GnarfozASUS is from a country that doesn't exist
19:31.00GnarfozKemayo: https://www.wowace.com/projects/inventorian-itemlevels fix eeet
20:25.07KemayoGnarfoz: Uh... I think it works?
20:37.36Gnarfozitem levels are incorrect for various newer items with crazy bonusids
20:37.59nevcairielpossibly a game issue then
20:38.08Gnarfozno, it's just this addon ;-)
20:38.13Gnarfozmost notably artifact weapons, but also stuff like loot from the 13th birthday event (shows classic ilvl of 71 instead of 900)
20:38.35Gnarfoztooltip shows correct itemlevel, so the info must be in there somewhere ^^
20:38.54nevcairielyou should know that tooltips and all other apis dont always agree =p
20:39.23Gnarfoz*make them*
20:39.24Gnarfoz:P
20:39.38nevcairielilvl is literally a return value of GetItemInfo, so unless the itemlink somehow gets mangled that api just returns bogus
20:40.12znfIs hmb faster than ddr5?
20:40.23znfOr is it slower because of the ECC?
20:40.47nevcairielwtf is hmb
20:41.27znfHbm
20:42.26Gnarfozit has higher bandwidth, hence the name
20:42.27nevcairielfaster then gddr5 probably always,  gddr5x .. depends on implementation
20:42.36Gnarfozhttps://i.imgur.com/dOOWu2E.png Kemayo
20:43.07nevcairielA 1080 Ti uses GDDR5X and has the same memory bandwidth as the HBM2 on AMD Vega cards (at a fraction of the cost, at that)
20:43.13Gnarfoz(that's probably because of the Crucible ilvl buff; which doesn't account for a ring from birthday-Azuregos (ilvl 900) showing as 71, though)
20:43.18nevcairielYou can make HBM faster if you s pend even more money
20:44.01nevcairielthe crucible stuff interacts badly with item info, has all sorts of caching issues
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21:11.24Stanzillaamd is already investing in gddr 6 so HBM bye bye
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21:15.29znfoh
21:15.38znfI "lost" $7 in zCASH
21:15.47znfbecause I was annoyed by the stupid wallet interface
21:15.47znf:D
21:17.19Gnarfoz>xau 1 btc to usd
21:17.21Catal1na1.00 BTC == 15151.52 USD
21:22.38silentiumas long as the UI doesn't make you "lose" 7 btc ;)
21:24.17znfaltcoins suck balls
21:24.38znfevery coin wants you to download their stupid full-node shit to create a wallet
21:24.50znfand every one of them wants to do that on your SSD
21:25.01znfthe zcash one doesn't have an option to put it anywhere else
21:32.44znfoh, wait, I still have the folder in my recycle bin
21:32.45znfheh
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23:20.42Stanzillahttp://www.mmo-champion.com/content/7254-Celestalon-Moves-to-Hearthstone-Team-Celestalon-Moves-to-Hearthstone-Team
23:20.43Stanzillaoh boy
23:20.53Stanzillaall the rage now because they once again blame him for everything
23:22.25nevcairielpeople like to blame the one guy they know the name of
23:22.25Funkeh`blame him for what exactly
23:22.30Funkeh`isn't he a community manager
23:22.51nevcairielno he is a technical game designer
23:25.39nevcairieldid a lot of work on classes for legion, although one hasnt heard from him much anymore after launch
23:40.50Stanzillayeah he got super bored with the game and lost passion
23:41.15Stanzillaalso being blamed for anything and everything in the game is not good for motivation
23:42.09Funkeh`lol if that's the problem just delete twitter account, done
23:42.09znfstep 1 for working at blizzard: don't go public
23:42.10znf:D
23:42.16znfno twitter, no nothing
23:42.44Stanzillaagree
23:43.30znfI mean, they did mention (or am I remembering) that they have a lot of people on WoW team now
23:43.35znfjust a few of them are public
23:44.29Stanzillayeah as always

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