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00:16.58 | znf | Does SLI need those silly little adapters between them these days or it's done just via PCIe? |
00:40.50 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: any experience with that stuff https://www.amazon.de/Ligawo-6518770-Multiformat-Konverter-Mehrkanal/dp/B015XQ1O00 ? |
01:00.12 | quiescens | o.o |
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08:49.55 | nevcairiel | not really Stanzilla |
09:14.41 | quiescens | moo |
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09:32.04 | Stanzilla | mkay |
09:32.27 | Stanzilla | looking for something to hook up my analog soundsystem to a bluray player |
09:32.34 | Stanzilla | (that has HDMI audio out) |
09:51.13 | nevcairiel | the usual way of doing that is getting an AV Receiver =p |
09:55.23 | quiescens | just stickytape them together |
09:55.25 | quiescens | nodnod |
10:00.20 | Stanzilla | yeah well av receivers are pretty expensive |
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12:25.11 | Gnarfoz | znf:Â was this you https://twitter.com/4nc4p/status/934384870025023490 |
12:25.23 | znf | lol |
12:25.33 | znf | that is brilliant |
12:28.56 | znf | >xau 1 btc to usd |
12:28.57 | Catal1na | 1.00 BTC == 9615.38 USD |
12:29.00 | znf | :o |
12:29.04 | znf | getting in to 10k |
12:32.39 | Stanzilla | TIL `git update` is a thing |
12:36.10 | znf | since when? |
12:37.59 | Stanzilla | idk |
12:38.33 | Gnarfoz | must be an alias for something |
12:38.37 | Gnarfoz | https://git-scm.com/docs/git doesn't mention it |
12:38.54 | Stanzilla | it's a git for windows feature |
12:42.26 | Stanzilla | https://github.com/git-for-windows/build-extra/pull/151 |
12:42.35 | quiescens | nerf Stanzilla |
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14:28.35 | Gnarfoz | You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MariaDB server version for the right syntax to use near '?' at line 1 |
14:28.41 | Gnarfoz | please, don't be useful |
14:28.43 | Gnarfoz | :| |
14:28.50 | nevcairiel | please, learn SQL |
14:28.50 | nevcairiel | :D |
14:29.31 | Gnarfoz | I know SQL, that error message isn't helpful, though |
14:29.50 | Gnarfoz | in other news, why does this not inspire confidence? https://www.moddiy.com/products/Premium-Single-Braid-Sleeved-5%252din%252d1-SATA-Extension-Cable-%28Black%7B47%7DRed%29.html :D |
14:30.30 | Gnarfoz | 5 times the amount of power through those tiny SATA power connectors? seems like a fire hazard |
14:30.47 | nevcairiel | honestly the sata connector is rated for quite a bit of power |
14:30.58 | nevcairiel | so unless you connect devices with a lot of draw |
14:32.50 | Gnarfoz | is it? didn't we recently establish it only has that many pins because the cross-section of a single pin is so tiny that they had to spread it over multiple? :D |
14:32.58 | nevcairiel | sure |
14:34.30 | Gnarfoz | "Each pin should be able to carry 1.5 A." says Wikipedia |
14:35.12 | Gnarfoz | that's 7.5W @ 5V... that's enough for 1 HDD |
14:35.28 | Gnarfoz | (depends on what voltage their primary power draw is on, of course) |
14:35.34 | nevcairiel | its also 54W at 12V |
14:35.40 | nevcairiel | thats a couple hdds |
14:36.39 | Gnarfoz | also, my bad, those 7.5 are for only 1 pin |
14:36.41 | nevcairiel | (well 54W over all 3 12v pins) |
14:36.54 | Gnarfoz | so 22.5W @ 5V |
14:37.08 | Gnarfoz | does still seem a bit much to put 5 HDDs on that |
14:37.23 | nevcairiel | an SSD will use under 5W |
14:37.39 | nevcairiel | if thats split at all over the 3 voltages, it should be fine |
14:38.03 | Gnarfoz | barely anything uses 3.3 |
14:38.05 | Gnarfoz | but: HDDs |
14:38.07 | Gnarfoz | wtf is a Seagate Exos |
14:38.21 | Gnarfoz | guess they rebranded |
14:38.55 | quiescens | o.o |
14:39.11 | Gnarfoz | 8TB Seagate Archive v3 (hmm?) is specified with 2A on spinup |
14:39.19 | Timmeh | throws quiescens a cookie |
14:39.20 | Gnarfoz | though they don't say on which voltage rail :| |
14:39.26 | nevcairiel | never do |
14:39.26 | quiescens | \o/ cookie |
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15:00.15 | Gnarfoz | http://www.45drives.com/wiki/index.php?title=Start_up_Power_Draw helpful |
15:00.44 | Gnarfoz | mostly 12V |
15:01.04 | quiescens | iuno how often those connectors actually fail from overload rather than just short circuiting from bad manufacture |
15:01.32 | quiescens | (bad manufacture coupled with being plugged into something that contains a number of discs spinning 12000 times a minute) |
15:02.52 | Gnarfoz | who has 12k rpm drives? |
15:03.29 | Gnarfoz | also, short circuiting due to bad manufacture is the next step after softening of cheap materials because of overheating because over overloading ;) |
15:03.33 | quiescens | shrug, i just picked one of the possible rpm numbers |
15:03.49 | Gnarfoz | my point: I've never seen 12k rpm drives :P |
15:05.35 | quiescens | there's even 15000 o.o |
15:05.49 | Gnarfoz | yes, but not 12 ;) |
15:06.30 | Gnarfoz | <various crap>, 7.2, 10, 15... although I guess there might be models with dynamic rpm in the higher end as well |
15:12.00 | Gnarfoz | http://45drives.blogspot.de/2015/06/staggered-spinup-and-its-effect-on.html guess I should start paying attention to buying drives that support power-up in standby |
15:13.10 | quiescens | shrug, 12000 was definitely there for a while |
15:15.02 | quiescens | everyone just uses low speed drives for storage and ssd for everything else these days anyway |
15:19.49 | znf | https://i.imgur.com/XxlQyZd.png |
15:19.52 | znf | something's not right |
15:20.29 | znf | >wolf 938592 hours to years |
15:20.33 | Catal1na | Input: convert 938592 hours to years |
15:20.34 | Catal1na | Result: 107.1 years |
15:20.53 | quiescens | i mean, that probably does count as old age |
15:21.13 | Gnarfoz | quiescens:Â not really true |
15:21.47 | znf | but no, seriously, what's up with the power on hours? |
15:22.54 | quiescens | power on hours is often not an actual number = actual hours |
15:23.49 | Gnarfoz | more like: your software is interpreting the number wrong because SMART data is vendor-defined |
15:23.50 | nevcairiel | it says power on time, might as well be minutes or some other time keeping unit |
15:24.19 | Gnarfoz | >wolf 938592 minutes to years |
15:24.26 | Catal1na | Input: convert 938592 minutes to years |
15:24.27 | Catal1na | Result: 1.786 years |
15:24.32 | znf | Power_On_Hours_and_Msec is what it says |
15:24.35 | znf | hours and msec |
15:25.00 | znf | ah |
15:25.02 | znf | <PROTECTED> |
15:26.31 | quiescens | a little from column a.. b, c and d |
15:26.35 | znf | yeah |
15:26.42 | quiescens | because all those answers have happened, and can happen |
15:26.55 | quiescens | there are definitely some drives that list it as minutes |
15:27.11 | quiescens | a bug is obviously always a possibility, etc |
15:27.24 | znf | <PROTECTED> |
15:27.57 | znf | >wolf 9385 hours to years |
15:28.00 | Catal1na | Input: convert 9385 hours to years |
15:28.01 | Catal1na | Result: 1.071 years |
15:28.08 | znf | meh |
15:28.11 | quiescens | .... |
15:28.46 | quiescens | the first 4 bytes tends not to mean the first 4 digits of a number |
15:28.53 | quiescens | unless you like storing numbers as a string |
15:28.56 | znf | I know! |
15:29.02 | znf | but I don't know what format that is |
15:29.41 | Stanzilla | worgen form |
15:29.46 | Stanzilla | at |
15:30.16 | nevcairiel | znf: you would need the actual raw value without formatting |
15:32.33 | znf | *nod* I have no idea how to get it, smartctl man page is very long |
16:02.45 | Fisker | man pages are* |
16:02.57 | Fisker | silly znf |
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16:22.05 | znf | Shit. |
16:22.13 | znf | my HBA card is too old |
16:22.16 | znf | doesn't handle 3TB drives |
16:22.20 | znf | fuck |
16:29.32 | znf | nevcairiel: when a SAS controller says 6Gbps, does that mean 6Gbps per sata port or per sas port? |
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16:41.45 | Gnarfoz | if it's actually an HBA, I'm not sure why it would need to need special handling for 3TB? |
16:42.39 | Gnarfoz | I guess 3TB falls under ">2TB" if that's what you meant, but still... shouldn't that be a driver thing for a passthrough-hba? |
16:51.47 | znf | shoudl |
16:52.07 | Stanzilla | znf: https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/commandline/wsl/release-notes?f=255&MSPPError=-2147217396#build-17046 |
16:52.12 | Stanzilla | Allow processes to run without an active terminal. [GH 709, 1007, 1511, 2252, 2391, et al.] |
16:52.27 | znf | Allow processes to run without an active terminal. [GH 709, 1007, 1511, 2252, 2391, et al.] |
16:52.28 | znf | nice |
16:52.28 | znf | yes |
17:15.17 | znf | Funkeh`: what was that web torrent download in the browser thing? |
17:15.31 | znf | >url last --from Funkeh` --with .io |
17:15.32 | Catal1na | No URLs matched that criteria. |
17:15.35 | znf | shit :-/ |
17:15.40 | znf | >url last --from Funkeh` --with load |
17:15.42 | Catal1na | http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/11/15/bootloader-unlocking-appears-disabled-pixel-2-phones-purchased-02g04o08o02g03l04e/ |
17:15.46 | znf | >url last --from Funkeh` --with load --nolimit |
17:15.47 | Catal1na | <http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/11/15/bootloader-unlocking-appears-disabled-pixel-2-phones-purchased-02g04o08o02g03l04e/> |
17:16.23 | znf | found it |
17:16.25 | znf | instant.io |
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17:29.04 | quiescens | go to sleep znf |
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17:45.04 | znf | what are the chances 3 disks (same model) would throw a LBA error at the same sector? |
17:45.20 | znf | (while taking into account that smartctl says that there's a firmware update for the drive) |
17:47.26 | Stanzilla | 1.1834525% |
17:57.29 | Stanzilla | https://twitter.com/wildeyeq/status/935120437734006784 |
17:57.30 | Stanzilla | :D |
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18:03.43 | wink | yeah, I lol'ed |
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18:27.34 | Mantisis | Hello |
18:30.58 | Mantisis | i encounter a weird issue while porting my addon on ace3, can someone guide me ? |
18:48.19 | znf | [10931.084688] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 Sense Key : Data Protect [current] |
18:48.19 | znf | [10931.084691] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 Add. Sense: Logical unit access not authorized |
18:48.20 | znf | the fuck is this |
18:48.55 | wink | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical_unit_number ? :D |
18:48.58 | wink | WHAT YEAR IS IT |
18:49.31 | wink | I bet you forgot to set the jumper correctly on your 20 year old SCSI drive |
18:49.32 | wink | admit it |
18:49.40 | znf | it's a 3TB drive |
18:50.02 | znf | it's not old and doesn't have a damn jumper |
18:51.41 | znf | I think it's password locked |
18:51.41 | znf | O.o |
19:11.48 | Megalon | :) |
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19:33.52 | znf | nevcairiel: how do you change the OP on Samsung SSDs? |
19:33.55 | znf | without windows? |
19:34.25 | Gnarfoz | same as with any other ssd: don't allocate 100% of the disk to partitions |
19:36.06 | znf | I can't do that |
19:36.10 | znf | slapping zfs on them |
19:36.24 | nevcairiel | zfs is a file system, partitions are below that =p |
19:36.25 | Gnarfoz | why? |
19:36.28 | Gnarfoz | ^ |
19:37.12 | znf | usually you use zfs on whole disk |
19:37.15 | znf | better than to partition it |
19:37.18 | Gnarfoz | "usually" |
19:37.19 | Gnarfoz | not better |
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19:37.43 | Gnarfoz | just like the stupid RAM recommendations made up by freenas fans |
19:38.16 | znf | this retarded sata controller doesn't want to rescan drives |
19:38.45 | znf | I have to reboot like a neanderthal |
19:39.33 | znf | doing echo "- - -" doesn't seem to be getting any new drives |
19:42.13 | Gnarfoz | that's a scsi feature, not sure sata does that |
19:43.15 | wink | the plot thickens! |
19:44.25 | znf | the scsi bus is used for sata |
19:44.37 | znf | resetting ../host0 re-detects my primary hdd |
19:44.48 | znf | Try this to rescan the SCSI hosts (each SATA port appears as a SCSI bus): |
19:45.57 | znf | obviously, the "enterprise" utility doesn't work with the desktop drives, figures |
19:47.37 | znf | tries to use Wine |
19:47.39 | znf | as if... |
19:48.47 | Gnarfoz | the utility isn't going to do anything else, btw |
19:49.34 | znf | hmmm? |
19:49.53 | nevcairiel | at least the samsung utility on windows just shrinks the partition |
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19:50.01 | znf | oh... :-/ |
19:51.02 | znf | ah! |
19:51.08 | znf | you can do it with hdparm |
19:51.44 | znf | it needs to pass the flag: |
19:51.45 | znf | --yes-i-know-what-i-am-doing |
19:52.01 | nevcairiel | which you clearly dont |
19:52.12 | znf | #yolo |
19:52.25 | Kesava | ugh I have to restart znc again ugh |
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19:55.01 | Gnarfoz | what do you pretend you know you're doing? |
19:55.16 | znf | https://www.thomas-krenn.com/en/wiki/SSD_Over-provisioning_using_hdparm |
20:00.00 | Gnarfoz | Use of -Nnnnnn is VERY DANGEROUS. |
20:00.00 | Gnarfoz | :D |
20:00.05 | Gnarfoz | but: it still does the same thing |
20:00.15 | Gnarfoz | it stops the OS from writing after a certain LBA |
20:00.17 | znf | it doesn't? |
20:00.21 | Gnarfoz | yes it does |
20:00.31 | znf | the OS won't detect the full capacity of the drive |
20:00.35 | Gnarfoz | so? |
20:00.45 | Gnarfoz | partitioning it prevents writes to the area that's not partitioned as well |
20:01.16 | Gnarfoz | but I guess it's more compatible with your zfs neuro^W habits |
20:02.10 | znf | not sure how 1000215216 translates to 512GB |
20:02.19 | znf | >math calc 1000215216/512 |
20:02.20 | Catal1na | 1953545.34375 |
20:06.36 | wink | hdparm -a ham |
20:06.38 | wink | omnomnom |
20:07.51 | znf | meh |
20:08.10 | znf | it just disables HBA :( |
20:08.44 | znf | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/Ef9s6IsO/ |
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20:50.33 | Gnarfoz | either you didn't paste all of what you did or |
20:50.41 | Gnarfoz | you didn't read the wiki page |
20:52.07 | znf | Gnarfoz: I secure erased, I changed the HBA, I made sure ignore_hba is 0, I even unplugged the disk, plugged it back in, rescanned (apparently if it boots with it detected, you can rescan in); hdparm sees HBA enabled and the lower size |
20:52.29 | znf | but after creating a new partition label, it's going back to HBA disabled |
20:53.28 | znf | Oh. |
20:53.36 | znf | You need to pass -Np |
20:53.37 | znf | damn |
20:59.08 | Gnarfoz | I feel rubbery |
20:59.15 | Gnarfoz | quacks |
21:00.01 | Gnarfoz | I hate programs that use syntax like that |
21:00.06 | Gnarfoz | -Np12345 instead of -Np 12345 |
21:00.20 | Gnarfoz | they are far and few between, but why do people even do that |
21:04.21 | znf | I hate having to fit 2.5" SSDs in 3.5" server bays |
21:05.14 | znf | ...and there have to be like 10239012831 types of screws |
21:07.46 | znf | aaaaand this thing doesn't fit |
21:08.18 | Gnarfoz | just tape it in #yolo |
21:09.39 | znf | sliding the cage in the bay misses the connector by aproximatively 1mm |
21:09.40 | znf | :-| |
21:10.59 | znf | I also have these things |
21:11.01 | znf | https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/CucfWBQR/20171127_231024.jpg |
21:11.11 | znf | but this one is a bit banged up, and I have exactly 4 |
21:31.34 | Gnarfoz | These instances are designed for compute-heavy applications like batch processing, distributed analytics, high-performance computing (HPC), ad serving, highly scalable multiplayer gaming, and video encoding. |
21:31.38 | Gnarfoz | one thing is not like the other |
21:31.57 | znf | sounds microsoft-ish? |
21:32.17 | Gnarfoz | AWS |
21:32.25 | Gnarfoz | c5 |
21:32.40 | Gnarfoz | why the hell is "ad serving" in that list |
21:32.53 | znf | intensive! |
21:34.00 | Gnarfoz | they're probably using nodejs and phantomjs or something to render the js locally and then transmit the frames as uncompressed tgas to the clients |
21:34.10 | Gnarfoz | or live-encoding them has HEVC |
21:34.13 | Gnarfoz | *as |
21:34.23 | znf | nodejs hipsters |
21:35.08 | znf | yay |
21:35.13 | znf | I put all the SSDs in the chasis |
21:35.34 | znf | now to label serials... |
21:46.14 | Gnarfoz | https://wccftech.com/intel-core-i7-9700k-9th-gen-8-cores-16-threads-rumor/ hmm |
21:46.38 | nevcairiel | dont read the worst tech site on the web |
21:47.04 | Gnarfoz | it's like BILD |
21:47.07 | Gnarfoz | you can't look away xD |
21:47.33 | Gnarfoz | anyhow, I only bought my current CPU what, last year? suddenly double the # cores! |
21:47.59 | nevcairiel | might be nice to be able to go consumer again in a few years and still have 8 cores |
21:48.07 | harl | surprise cores |
21:48.44 | Gnarfoz | (ironically, I could have probably used the previous CPU for even longer as well... from "core" gen 2 (sandy bridge) to whatever my 6700K is, no change in core count at all. it did feel kind of terrible) |
21:49.49 | harl | you probably could have |
21:50.49 | nevcairiel | most enthusiasts dont buy hardware they need :p |
21:51.07 | Gnarfoz | wait what |
21:51.17 | Gnarfoz | are you saying I don't need all of these keyboards? |
21:51.24 | Megalon | YOU CAN'T TELL ME WHAT I NEED |
21:51.26 | Megalon | STOP OPPRESSING ME |
21:54.58 | znf | I need more SSDs |
21:55.08 | znf | apparently I'm gonna have 8 in this system \o/ |
21:59.46 | Gnarfoz | still kind of amazed how much work MS is putting into WSL (see stan's link above) |
22:00.40 | Gnarfoz | previous decades' experience would have fueled rather pessimist expectations |
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22:13.51 | Stanzilla | yeah |
22:18.15 | znf | Gnarfoz: have you turned Glonet on? |
22:18.55 | Gnarfoz | yeah on Friday or so |
22:19.40 | znf | oh, apparently I have 17 clients connected |
22:19.47 | znf | guess my google/azure stuff is still running |
22:26.54 | Gnarfoz | how dou you still have free credit there :o |
22:27.40 | znf | Gnarfoz: https://i.imgur.com/2t5u38v.jpg |
22:30.58 | znf | Gnarfoz: btw, have you noticed that in chrome dev they put the "Security" thing back on the lock, sort of? |
22:31.03 | znf | as in the https:// |
22:31.10 | znf | so you can see certificate info easily |
22:31.15 | Gnarfoz | I used the chrome://flags thing for that already |
22:32.01 | znf | oh |
22:32.05 | znf | there's a flag for that? |
22:32.06 | znf | neat-o |
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22:44.01 | Gnarfoz | maybe? or there used to be? that page has changed appearance again, for no reason |
22:44.01 | Gnarfoz | :D |
22:52.33 | Kesava | it's better now! |
22:54.01 | Gnarfoz | for arbitrary amounts of better |
22:55.22 | Kesava | i'll accept that |
23:19.15 | Gnarfoz | I wish I remembered how I came up with this tmux layout a8d9,237x64,0,0{47x64,0,0[47x21,0,0,0,47x20,0,22,12,47x21,0,43,11],46x64,48,0[46x21,48,0,14,46x20,48,22,13,46x21,48,43,1],47x64,95,0[47x21,95,0,8,47x20,95,22,7,47x21,95,43,10],46x64,143,0[46x21,143,0,9,46x20,143,22,2,46x21,143,43,4],47x64,190,0[47x21,190,0,3,47x20,190,22,6,47x21,190,43,5]} :D |
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