IRC log for #wowace on 20171115

00:06.09znfonly in this build?
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00:06.43pompyhow the hell https://twitter.com/NZXT/status/930581007660498944
00:07.12Funkeh`pompy, tempered glass, no?
00:08.57znfyup, tempered glass is the shit
00:09.08Funkeh`pass
00:11.43znfit's a mess to clean up
00:11.48znfbut at least you don't end up cuting yourself
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00:12.00Funkeh`I have no desire to see inside my case
00:12.12Funkeh`or for my pc to be shit full of retarded LEDs
00:12.36znf*shrug* I don't even have a side panel on my pc
00:13.26Stanzillaquiescens: yeah it is weird that it works
00:13.49Stanzillaznf: isn't that super loud?
00:14.11znfmy PC is quiet as fuck
00:15.17znf...what kind of fans do you have that they are loud? O.o
00:15.43Funkeh`"super" loud
00:16.00znfunless I'm playing games (so the GPU fan is on), I barely hear it
00:16.16Stanzilladunno, I hear mine all the time
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00:16.48Funkeh`not loaded up with noctuas Stanzilla ?
00:16.55znfI don't have a noctua
00:16.56Stanzillanah
00:17.02znfI have a cheap ~20€ fan for my CPU
00:17.06znfthe PSU is like 6 years old
00:17.15Funkeh`must be efficient AF
00:17.24znfactually, 20€ is expensive :D
00:17.33Funkeh`I meant the psu
00:19.06znfMaxCube Nira 500W
00:19.24znf30 August 2011 20:10
00:19.58Funkeh`doesn't even have an 80+ rating haha
00:20.23znfI'm actually impressed on how long it has lasted
00:20.24znfyup
00:20.32znfgot like 65% :D
00:20.47znfhttps://twitter.com/KihraOfTemerity/status/930591323660353539
00:20.48znfwait, what?
00:20.51znfno more tier sets?
00:21.17Funkeh`not something ive heard of
00:22.06znfor is he talking about other games?
00:22.13Funkeh`I like the gear system in destiny 2, quite simple and easy to upgrade
00:22.25Funkeh`maybe, who knows
00:24.36Stanzillahttp://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2017/11/14/world-of-warcraft-removing-traditional-raid-sets-in-battle-for-azeroth.aspx
00:26.12Funkeh`good
00:26.14znfSo why bother with getting sets then?
00:26.24quiescensthe problem with the traditional raid sets was that you tended to have to switch to the higher sets even if you preferred the gameplay of the older set
00:26.26Funkeh`you won't since they won't exist
00:26.41Funkeh`you'll just look at the stats and if it's an upgrade, take it
00:26.54znfboring
00:26.58Funkeh`instead of ignoring items 5-10 ilvls higher because "muh bonus"
00:27.18quiescenswhich would also push everyone towards using the same set in the long run
00:27.44Funkeh`if you mean an "ideal" set of gear, that has always existed and always will
00:28.00Funkeh`overall this still frees you up to upgrade more gear
00:28.03znfso, uhm, maybe I should be getting another PSU :-S
00:28.19quiescensno, i don't mean "ideal" gear, i meant in terms of set bonus stuff
00:28.49quiescensso everyone ends up on the same set bonus even if they don't like the gameplay of that set
00:29.00Funkeh`oh you mean the current system
00:29.04quiescensyeah
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00:31.51quiescensthe azerite thingy the article talks about sounds like they could potentially be kind of like the set bonuses (non stat, unique stuff?) in a way that will let you continuously upgrade your items with making everyone use the same 8 items
00:32.09quiescensbut who knows at the moment \o/
00:32.10Funkeh`at the end of the day what they can do now is use other systems for implementing fun bonuses
00:32.13Funkeh`rather than gear
00:32.50Funkeh`probably buying certain things with points in your neck piece
00:33.46Funkeh`which I think is what you just said
00:34.22quiescensnow we just have to turn against znf
00:34.34quiescensstabs znf with a pillow
00:35.10znf:o
00:36.54quiescenso.o
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02:03.35znfhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hKHdzTMAcI
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08:29.08Phixionmorning
08:34.38quiescensmoo
08:47.37Phixiondies
08:47.57quiescenso.o
08:48.04quiescensres Phixion
08:49.36Phixion\o/
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09:26.43znfhey Gnarfoz https://i.imgur.com/9C2grJf.png
09:27.09quiescenswhat language is that?
09:28.28znf*shrug*
09:39.00silentiumthe window title says java, so I'm not surprised ;)
09:39.57znfsilentium, remote kvm
09:44.28znfnot sure if I should just call an exorcist...
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13:13.21ls-Torhal: https://instagram.com/p/BbglOKIBsDU/, look at this sweet persimmon @_@
13:14.19StanzillaSorry, this page isn't available.
13:15.05MegalonStanzilla is catblocked
13:20.34znfpretty kitty
13:27.18quiescenso.O
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13:44.16znfFucking hate PayPal
13:44.20znfI was trying to pay for our new hardware
13:44.23znfthey blocked our account :-|
13:44.37quiescensgrats
13:44.58quiescensno worries, should be resolved in a couple months
13:45.00quiescens^^
13:50.13Kalrothwhen they've earned extra interest on the account money
13:51.50Fiskerlul paypal for business use
14:00.23Kalrothwhats wrong with that, i use dogecoin for businesses here
14:02.42winkI kinda don't have access to my dogecoins
14:02.56winkthe chain won't update and I can't convert to this light wallet
14:03.05winkpoor 6$ I'll probably never see again
14:03.15quiescens):
14:03.19quiescensgives wink a cookie
14:03.25winkthanks quiescens
14:07.20znfFisker, well, people like to pay with paypal...
14:48.34quiescensit would all be so much easier without the people
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16:07.03Stanzillahttps://blog.atom.io/2017/11/15/code-together-in-real-time-with-teletype-for-atom.html ugh
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16:36.17znfman, they're asking 4000€ for battery replacement for one of our UPS
16:36.18znfjesus :-|
16:50.39bluspacecowhttps://us.battle.net/forums/en/blizzcon/topic/20759241351?page=1#post-10
16:50.46bluspacecowI like totally went full nerd
17:01.54znfbluspacecow: or you can just download them :P
17:02.39znfuse this: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/adobe-hds-hls-video-saver/pibndofbpkoaipoidbkephfhhnapkccn?utm_source=chrome-app-launcher-info-dialog
17:04.01bluspacecow.....
17:04.05bluspacecow\o/
17:04.58bluspacecownaw
17:05.17bluspacecowi did that one year and still haven't gotten to watch them
17:35.44pompyStanzilla: https://twitter.com/code/status/930816441594667008
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17:36.32StanzillaI know
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19:01.56Gnarfozznf: that kvm lokos fucked :D
19:02.32znfGnarfoz: yeah, something happened to the swap drive I think
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19:48.10Gnarfozhttps://i.imgur.com/0UByooi.png this happened way too quickly :O
19:52.04PrimerYou should put your seatbelt on
19:53.48Megalonwhat, 0km/h? not putting on your seatbelt? 0°? or that the car is not even running? :<
19:56.13Gnarfoz9999 km in 7 months :O
19:56.50Megalonguess you like to drive a lot
19:56.56Megalonvroomvroomfoz
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20:03.37pompyhttps://www.facebook.com/drivetribe/videos/547182375661905/
20:07.09Funkeh`rofl
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22:30.32Stanzillaznf: https://twitter.com/heroespatches/status/930925750575755264
22:31.06quiescenso.o
22:56.06znfWell
22:56.16znfBlade runner was fucking long
22:56.28znf5 people in the cinema
22:56.38znfAnd 2 left like 20 minutes earlier WTF :))
22:58.13Alramsometimes you gotta go
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23:26.36Gnarfoznevcairiel: what is st-2084 oO https://i.imgur.com/kqFAUOB.png
23:26.51nevcairielbasically, hdr
23:26.56Gnarfozalso, 12 bit? suuure. I bet none of this has any bearing on what it can actually display, only what input it accepts
23:27.09nevcairielof course
23:27.21Gnarfozsends glitter to Samsung
23:27.34nevcairielits normal for tvs to accept 12-bit really
23:27.47nevcairielwho knows how much data they can use for internal processing
23:27.51Gnarfozwhat even outputs that?
23:28.01nevcairielyour gpu over hdmi, very likely =p
23:28.18Gnarfozmy gpu supports 12bpc?
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23:28.23Gnarfoz:o
23:28.41nevcairielthe only odd part is that there is no graphics api to really render 12-bit
23:28.58nevcairielbut you can render 10-bit and output that over 12-bit, more bits is never bad
23:31.23Gnarfozwish I had an edid screenshot from an older tv firmware version
23:32.03Gnarfozthe ones that were still in madvr only had a weird-ish string there instead of that table
23:32.27nevcairielmaybe the table is new, i dont remember
23:33.00Gnarfozpossibly
23:33.16Gnarfozthe other ones where the table is there have the "interesting" bits as (unknown)
23:33.24nevcairielbut the edid claims you can do hdr, werent you on a quest to figure that out
23:33.42GnarfozI was and then got distracted by Primer's streaming stuff :D
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23:34.22GnarfozI'm not sure right now what my conclusion up to that point was
23:34.44nevcairielyou could try to let madvr do passthrough and see if it looks any way like a normal picture
23:34.51Gnarfozyeah that was the goal
23:34.55Gnarfozor plan, rather
23:35.14Funkeh`12 bit lol
23:35.25Funkeh`can we focus on something important like making 60fps a standard damnit
23:35.33Gnarfozyou can
23:35.34Funkeh`all this 10bit 4k 8k shit
23:35.41Funkeh`fucking industry
23:35.46nebulabut the eye can only see 24 fps
23:36.19Gnarfozthanks for your quality input, Funkeh` :P
23:36.44nevcairielhigher bitdepth is important, because it enables wider gamuts without banding, so we can actually get vibrant colors
23:36.48Funkeh`sorry just a rant
23:37.31Gnarfozyou do realize that even cheapo TVs have 60 Hz panels and thus you're barking up the wrong tree? those who're pushing HDR and higher resolutions are not the ones who can make 60 fps movies happen
23:37.51Gnarfozinb4 "but it's an ~*artistic*~ choice!"
23:37.52nevcairielyeah the TVs are not the problem for 60fps =p
23:38.00Funkeh`never said they were
23:38.08nevcairielbut we're talking about tvs
23:38.15nevcairielso it was implied
23:38.18Gnarfozwell, I concluced that you were triggered by that :D
23:38.29Funkeh`no, just a rant
23:38.34Gnarfozk :D
23:38.54nevcairielUHD BD also supports 60fps now, broadcast is a backward technologoy and will likely never, now just need to start making more movies in higher fps
23:39.05Gnarfozhow many are there, actually?
23:39.09Gnarfozbesides Hobbit?
23:39.24Gnarfozdidn't James Cameron want to make Avatar 2 in 48 or more?
23:39.35nevcairiellike 2 or so
23:39.35nevcairiel:D
23:39.45nevcairiel(counting the hobbitses as one)
23:39.52GnarfozAvatar 2 (2020)
23:39.53Gnarfozwtf
23:39.56Gnarfozwhy is that still so far off
23:40.07nevcairielBilly Lynn's Long Halftime Walk was shot in 120fps
23:40.10Funkeh`they are making several at the same time
23:40.21Gnarfozlike LotR? I see
23:40.31Funkeh`as far as I know yeah
23:40.39nevcairieldidnt they basically say after lotr that making so much content in one go was a nightmare
23:40.56Funkeh`I don't think it's the same people
23:41.09nevcairieli guess, but still, one might learn :D
23:41.14Gnarfoznah, but allegedly, you can learn from others' mistakes :D
23:41.28Gnarfozor they thought "psh, amateurs, we'll manage"
23:41.37Gnarfozor they figured the problems out, who knows!
23:42.45Gnarfoznevcairiel: odd: the edid for my TV in that "HDMI UHD Color" mode (which is probably some 4:4:4 mode) shows a different "product code" (c42) than the regular one (c45)... I wonder if that's just from being an older edid readout
23:42.56Gnarfoz(neither of those match the model number...)
23:43.44Gnarfozanyway, I'll get into this on the weekend maybe... now some B5 & sleepies
23:43.45nevcairielits so backwards that they have settings to enable the full HDMI 2.0 4k modes, instead of just enabling them
23:44.35GnarfozI don't know what that's even about... it also says to disconnect the HDMI cable before enabling it, which seems more weird
23:44.48nevcairielprobably to avoid confusing devices when the edid changes
23:44.52Gnarfoz(probably so whatever it is attached to is forced to re-read its capabilities)
23:45.06Gnarfozbut can't the just turn off the output to fake that
23:45.12Gnarfozseems odd :P
23:45.13nevcairielwho knows
23:45.29nevcairielmaybe easier to let people do that then implement a full shutdown of hte port
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23:48.45Gnarfozmaybe the shield has to stay grounded or something and some devices can tell by that
23:49.00Gnarfozevil hax
23:51.32Funkeh``overwatch seems to have recently gained the disturbing (random) ability to completely lock up my system when launching the game, requiring a hard reboot
23:52.32Funkeh``didn't even realize that was still possible, last time Ive seen that was windows xp
23:52.32znfIt evolved
23:53.33Gnarfozor, you're facing the sad truth that it's the hardware
23:53.38Gnarfozwhich is always capable of that, regardless of OS
23:53.51Funkeh``when launching 1 specific game?
23:54.04Funkeh``if it was hardware you'd think it wouldn't happen during an initialization
23:54.37Gnarfozthere might he dozens of other programs/behaviors that trigger it, which you just don't see/run *shrug*
23:54.53znfThis windows update annoys me
23:54.57Gnarfozor: it might be in a driver, which certainly has this capability as well
23:55.16Gnarfozif games were software-rendered, this would indeed be impossible
23:55.20Gnarfoz(even on Windows XP)
23:55.45znfStanzilla: does swipe pro work for you to update status?
23:55.56znfI click he button, and it's stuck in perpetual loading

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