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| 03:25.29 | pompy | https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20759351721#1 |
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| 06:30.53 | quiescens | moo |
| 06:32.18 | bluspacecow | moo |
| 06:53.41 | znf | Stanzilla, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLmU2UVjMVg |
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| 08:00.14 | ls- | moo \o/ |
| 08:00.54 | ls- | znf: dafuq? o_O |
| 08:01.22 | znf | I don't know man |
| 08:36.00 | quiescens | o.o |
| 08:36.06 | quiescens | it wants me to sign in |
| 08:36.18 | quiescens | so i will just assume it is something suitably znf-esque |
| 08:37.05 | Phixion | :) |
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| 12:30.01 | Stanzilla | znf: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RQDPwODja4&feature=youtu.be |
| 12:38.59 | Megalon | so that's what mr oizo is up to today |
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| 13:27.29 | znf | Stanzilla, yeah, seen it |
| 13:28.24 | Stanzilla | mildly disturbing |
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| 17:08.17 | Funkeh` | new firefox is today? |
| 17:16.31 | quiescens | o.o |
| 17:17.46 | quiescens | is this the one that will break the legacy addons? |
| 17:18.01 | Funkeh` | I doubt that's the only thing that will break |
| 17:18.52 | quiescens | i feel like its strange that one of the legacy addons on my list is mozilla's addon compatability reporter |
| 17:20.02 | Funkeh` | it's apparently already out |
| 17:20.12 | Funkeh` | and the download is a fucking downloader |
| 17:20.22 | quiescens | \o/ |
| 17:20.46 | quiescens | and then the downloader downloads a bigger downloader? ^^ |
| 17:24.50 | quiescens | mine has updated itself \o/ |
| 17:27.44 | quiescens | the new theme is crisp, i got rid of the strange empty spaces on either side of the address bar though |
| 17:30.28 | quiescens | what did you mean by the download is a downloader? |
| 17:30.44 | quiescens | pokes Funkeh` with a cookie |
| 17:31.18 | Funkeh` | the "installer" isn't offline, it has to download more content |
| 17:31.54 | silentium | it's been like that for ages if you download the default installer from the website |
| 17:32.01 | quiescens | oh for a fresh install, yeah, the default download does that |
| 17:32.24 | Funkeh` | I don't really give a fuck what it's been like by default, I haven't used it in years |
| 17:32.28 | silentium | there are ways to find a standalone installer somewhere else on the website though |
| 17:33.40 | silentium | https://www.mozilla.org/firefox/all/ |
| 17:33.50 | quiescens | you brought it up ): |
| 17:34.10 | quiescens | i thought you were just updating |
| 17:34.24 | Funkeh` | I mocked it, I didn't reference if it's past history was dumb or not |
| 17:35.36 | silentium | I agree that it's annoying, but I'm not surprised because I remember that it has been like that since Fx 3.5 or even earlier |
| 17:36.28 | Funkeh` | quiescens, nope, looking into if it's a valid competitor to chrome yet, that would be cool |
| 17:36.59 | quiescens | i went back to ff quite a few versions ago |
| 17:37.40 | quiescens | chrome was nice for a while but i ended up caring more about memory usage than an extra couple frames per second on javascript heavy games/stuff |
| 17:38.44 | Funkeh` | memory usage hasn't been a consideration for years unless we're talking mobile |
| 17:42.01 | quiescens | that plus i was more easily able to make firefox work the way i want instead of just whatever they decide is default |
| 17:42.22 | quiescens | and probably other little things i have forgotten over time |
| 17:43.10 | Funkeh` | firefox was always better for customization, I see one of the prominent options in the settings panel is the ability to swap between omnibox and separate search |
| 17:43.51 | quiescens | oh that was one of the thingies |
| 17:44.53 | quiescens | firefox's addressbar thingy seemed so much better at working out which previously visited but forgotten url i was trying to find than chrome's |
| 17:59.30 | Funkeh` | oh snap noscript didn't get updated haha |
| 17:59.48 | Funkeh` | ublock and https everywhere work fine at least |
| 18:05.39 | quiescens | i haven't been using it anyway but noscript says they are hoping to be ready within the next couple days i think |
| 18:06.12 | Funkeh` | I thought quantum was supposed to have a sandbox now |
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| 18:09.11 | quiescens | i think so? |
| 18:17.29 | Stanzilla | https://www.thurrott.com/windows/143895/groupy-brings-tabs-every-window-windows |
| 18:19.48 | quiescens | what if you use it to tab something that already has tabs o.o |
| 18:20.08 | quiescens | computer explodes? |
| 18:21.36 | Funkeh` | sub-tab |
| 18:21.50 | Funkeh` | how many tabs deep can you go |
| 18:23.57 | Funkeh` | "Next year, for example, Mozilla will do further work on the browser's sandboxing implementation, incorporating elements from the Chromium project to further restrict its sandbox processes" |
| 18:24.00 | Funkeh` | not quite there yet |
| 18:24.33 | quiescens | shrug, its pretty reasonably sandboxed as of 56/57 depending on os |
| 18:25.49 | Funkeh` | either way I'm guessing this time next year it will totally be a viable alternative |
| 18:26.26 | Stanzilla | when will it be 100% rust? |
| 18:26.39 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 18:27.03 | Stanzilla | 2020? |
| 18:27.14 | quiescens | where are you seeing this thingy about next year anyway? |
| 18:27.29 | Stanzilla | was his guess |
| 18:27.44 | Funkeh` | the quote was ars technica |
| 18:35.22 | Funkeh` | Stanzilla, then 2021 electron will be based off firefox amirite? |
| 18:36.44 | Stanzilla | EdgeHTML |
| 18:36.51 | Stanzilla | + ChakraCore |
| 18:37.02 | Funkeh` | abandon ship |
| 18:37.14 | nevcairiel | i wish edge would be usable by applications, but alas MS didnt allow that yet |
| 18:37.21 | Stanzilla | EdgeHTML will never be cross platform but ChrakraCore already is :D |
| 18:38.49 | Stanzilla | but I actually trust Google more than MS when it comes to making a good JS engine |
| 18:39.21 | Funkeh` | aren't a bunch of googlers like eric ex-MS anyway? :D |
| 18:39.36 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 18:39.45 | Stanzilla | eric does security though |
| 18:39.55 | Funkeh` | I still remember speaking to eric about IE9 and tracking protection |
| 18:40.03 | Funkeh` | the good old days |
| 18:40.03 | Stanzilla | I hope you followed their twitter discussion about electron today |
| 18:40.10 | Stanzilla | it was "interesting" |
| 18:40.13 | Funkeh` | don't think so |
| 18:41.51 | Stanzilla | start here https://twitter.com/DrPizza/status/930286337479135232 |
| 18:41.59 | quiescens | mm pizza |
| 18:42.34 | Stanzilla | ends with paul noping the fuck out https://twitter.com/paulcbetts/status/930492507971915781 |
| 18:46.06 | Funkeh` | a lot of retarded shit being thrown around |
| 18:46.36 | Stanzilla | ofc, it's Twitter |
| 18:50.46 | Funkeh` | https://twitter.com/paulcbetts/status/930309199711449088 summarizes my thoughts after reading that shit |
| 18:53.13 | Funkeh` | "And chrome is a hog. Its huge and complicated. It uses ram and CPU like nobody's business, and it totally thrashes your battery life." I think people live in an alternate reality |
| 18:54.45 | Funkeh` | he's probably on of those types of people that think apps should be re-writting from scratch every few years "because they get old" |
| 19:01.50 | Funkeh` | "I mean, the slack app is 160 megs on disk" oh boohoo |
| 19:02.39 | Funkeh` | "It would take 450 floppy disks to store these three simple apps" yay for totally irrelevant statistics, no one cares it's not the 90s |
| 19:03.44 | ls- | quiescens: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULGSguey3I4 many many floofs |
| 19:30.38 | Gnarfoz | and still, wrapping your website in a browser that can only display one website is not "a desktop program" ^^ |
| 19:31.48 | Gnarfoz | also, could these apps perhaps stop using CPU all the time when they don't even have a visible window? that would be swell |
| 19:33.13 | Gnarfoz | znf: unfuck this GFS2 filesystem for me, pls |
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| 19:44.34 | Stanzilla | do you want to wait for it to render and load content every time you switch to it though? |
| 19:46.49 | Gnarfoz | I thought JS is so hyper optimized now that would be fast? :P |
| 19:47.40 | Gnarfoz | I mean, I haven't had to wait for programs minimized to tray to render when I click them since... the dawn of multi-core cpus? |
| 19:48.10 | Gnarfoz | neat, primary file server died while I was looking! |
| 19:48.14 | Gnarfoz | wasn't me |
| 19:48.17 | Gnarfoz | hides |
| 19:50.47 | Gnarfoz | "There is no more space for virtual disk /vmfs/volumes/12345674890-1234-131321321/blah/blah.vmdk" ^^ |
| 19:50.52 | Gnarfoz | you had one job |
| 19:51.02 | znf | Haha |
| 19:51.11 | znf | Honestly |
| 19:51.19 | znf | I sometimes enjoy see you corporate guys |
| 19:51.38 | Gnarfoz | why? we just fuck around, like you |
| 19:51.57 | znf | Struggle with not being able to do your jobs properly because some other tard in the same corp didn't do their jobs |
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| 19:52.13 | Gnarfoz | boss man was proud earlier, when he said he was finally starting to migrate the first stuff off of some Thecus NAS we were still using |
| 19:52.20 | znf | And you depend on that fucker because you haven't got access to whatever he's got |
| 19:52.29 | Gnarfoz | I have access to everything, we're not that big |
| 19:52.31 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 19:52.50 | Gnarfoz | this is just a fuckup by whoever created the new file share he was supposed to use |
| 19:52.55 | Gnarfoz | it's on the wrong disk |
| 19:52.56 | Gnarfoz | I bet |
| 19:53.17 | Gnarfoz | actually: I don't have access to everything! I probably can't log into that Windows with enough privileges to fix this |
| 19:53.55 | Gnarfoz | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:54.09 | znf | Ilo / ip-kvm, reboot, "hack" the password |
| 19:54.12 | Gnarfoz | anyway, I bet that's the disk the system volume is on |
| 19:54.15 | znf | :D |
| 19:54.29 | Gnarfoz | sure yeah, let's destroy the entire thing to gain the password ;-) |
| 19:58.50 | znf | Should be fine! :D |
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| 20:18.12 | znf | I just signed the Microsoft SPLA agreement |
| 20:18.16 | znf | feels like I just sold my soul |
| 20:27.25 | znf | So, what did Firefox change with their extension that it's got the whole web fucked up? |
| 20:29.30 | wink | in short: the old XUL extensions could change everything in the browser, the new ones mostly just in the web context |
| 20:31.35 | znf | seems that my firefox didn't upgrade |
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| 22:13.23 | Gnarfoz | it's actually more annoying/stupid than I had hoped |
| 22:14.02 | Gnarfoz | boss man was robocopying files to new file share thing, 20:00, backup starts. backup creates vm snapshot for its backup magic. copy continues, snapshot delta file grows. |
| 22:14.35 | Gnarfoz | however, since these are datastores dedicated to this fileserver, they basically contain just one huge vm disk file and are filled to 95% or so permanently |
| 22:14.43 | Gnarfoz | this doesn't leave much room for a snapshot delta file ^^ |
| 22:15.02 | Gnarfoz | 31 minutes later, that room was exhausted ^_^ |
| 22:15.31 | Gnarfoz | why that means that the entire thing needs to explode, is a question for vmware |
| 22:16.03 | Gnarfoz | anyway, deleted the snapshot, but vsphere then wanted "snapshot consolidation". tried that, doesn't work, someone has a lock on "a file" |
| 22:16.43 | Gnarfoz | figure out which file, figure out which host, all by hand, some-time-later-spongebob.jpg, restart offending host, yay |
| 22:17.18 | Gnarfoz | *start snapshot consolidation*, progress bar goes from 50% to 75% to 80% in like 10 seconds and then... sits at 80% for like 50 minutes so far. :D |
| 22:17.23 | Gnarfoz | typical useless progress bar |
| 22:17.39 | Gnarfoz | my prediction: when it reaches exactly 60 minutes since the operation was started, it'll fail |
| 22:17.46 | Gnarfoz | vmware likes their stupidly huge timeouts |
| 22:20.20 | znf | progress bars are hard |
| 22:20.23 | znf | for real |
| 22:27.09 | Gnarfoz | oy vey |
| 22:27.11 | Gnarfoz | it completed |
| 22:28.42 | znf | https://www.amazon.de/LG-Smartphone-Display-Speicher-Moroccan-Blue/dp/B075GTJYSV/ |
| 22:28.44 | znf | ...right |
| 22:37.50 | Primer | ist Deutsch |
| 22:48.08 | Gnarfoz | it actually finished after 52 minutes and all is fine now |
| 22:51.06 | quiescens | \o/ |
| 22:51.10 | quiescens | gives Gnarfoz a cookie |
| 22:51.46 | Gnarfoz | thanks, that's probably preferable to the Sushi that's been warming up for the last 4 hours now ;p |
| 22:52.16 | Funkeh` | eat it already |
| 22:54.12 | Gnarfoz | !! |
| 22:54.22 | Gnarfoz | Orville time |
| 22:54.38 | quiescens | why have you been warming your sushi for 4 hours? |
| 22:54.40 | quiescens | o.o |
| 22:56.13 | Gnarfoz | it did that on its own while I was busy working ^^ |
| 23:06.09 | znf | Gnarfoz, reverse searing a steak in the air-fryer - no go |
| 23:08.41 | znf | it's so dry :-| |
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| 23:23.44 | Stanzilla | https://wago.io/r1GjIaUJf |
| 23:24.46 | quiescens | i don't play teh game but that doesn't sound like it should work o.o |
| 23:25.10 | quiescens | or even if it should work, it sounds like a strange place to do it? |
| 23:25.11 | quiescens | ^^ |
| 23:29.26 | znf | people are crazy about WA usage |
| 23:33.45 | znf | when team fights are intense https://i.imgur.com/LJHSv8L.png |
| 23:37.32 | znf | Ever since the latest Windows update, my system feels like shit when I play games |
| 23:37.37 | znf | CPU usage at 30-40% |
| 23:37.41 | znf | but it takes like half a second to alt-tab |
| 23:37.55 | Funkeh` | stop playing dx9 games |
| 23:45.16 | znf | HoTS is DX9? |
| 23:57.56 | Funkeh` | no idea, but the issue was related to dx9 |
