IRC log for #wowace on 20171113

00:13.46Funkeh`Zeldo, Torhal seriously fucking do something about the spam they are now making projects https://wow.curseforge.com/projects/hd-putlocker-watch-thor-ragnarok-online-full-free
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00:18.35quiescenso.o
00:18.52quiescens/blame torhal
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01:52.37Gnarfozsilentium: that's the opposite of true ^^
01:58.13quiescensmoo?
02:02.33znfGnarfoz!
02:02.43quiescenshide!
02:12.04znfmy client(s) asked if we can't just go with a "normal" electric setup (without PDUs)
02:12.15znfI asked them if they want the datacenter to burn out and lose all the equipment in the resulting fire
02:12.52znfI think they got the point
02:13.17quiescensburn it all down~
02:14.22znfowner also chimed in, I reminded him he failed to renew the insurance policy this year
02:18.47Gnarfozlol
02:19.34Gnarfoz(also, which "normal" setup was he thinking of? even a power strip is a "pdu", the plugs have to plug into *something*)
02:19.44Gnarfozweirdos
02:32.34quiescensjust wire things in by hand
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02:46.02Funkeh`oh dear
02:46.11Funkeh`STD break until january :(
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03:00.12znfgotta gouge those subscriptions
03:00.20znf>tv star trek discovery
03:00.21Catal1naStar Trek: Discovery 2017 (Running). Previous Episode: [1x9] Into the Forest I Go on 2017-11-12 (042 hours). Next Episode: [1x10] Despite Yourself on 2018-01-07 (032 months). http://www.tvmaze.com/shows/7480/star-trek-discovery
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08:03.50silentiumGnarfoz: it's a quote, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Less_(Unix)#History :)
09:38.11Stanzillaznf: https://medium.com/@jmperezperez/using-svg-as-placeholders-more-image-loading-techniques-bed1b810ab2c that is pretty cool
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10:12.10quiescensi kind of feel like menu transitions in games aren't worth it
10:12.34quiescensits like, *maybe* someone thinks it looks nice the first time, and then from then on its just annoying delay
10:13.33nevcairielyeah its possibly a nice looking effect, but stop wasting our time with that
10:50.10znfStanzilla, let's say I don't have a good opinion about svg right now
11:09.21quiescensdo you have a good opinion of anything ^^
11:12.31quiescensi'm always a bit doubtful of going to a lot of effort for placeholder images, particularly a different placeholder or worse, multiple versions of placeholders for each unique image, you end up adding a bit to the total download to help with.. slow downloads
12:07.44phyberYou can tell the content is going to be great when you need 87MB of javascript to render it though.
12:11.19znfhttps://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsBattlefront/comments/7cff0b/seriously_i_paid_80_to_have_vader_locked/dppum98/
12:11.20znfnice
12:11.24znf-192.000 downvots
13:15.16Gnarfoz-228k!
13:15.53nevcairielisnt that what basically all the online games do these days, things you either buy or play forever to unlock?
13:16.39Gnarfozmirror universe episode next, znf :D
13:16.49quiescenso.O
13:17.03quiescensgnarfoz is sekretly ebil
13:17.05znfGnarfoz, in 20fucking18?
13:17.07Gnarfoz(episodeS even, possibly)
13:17.21Gnarfozwell, that's what you get for making these annoyingly short seasons *shrug*
13:17.36znfthey're just milking their stupid subscription model
13:17.37Gnarfozcurrently enjoying 22-episode seasons of Babylon 5
13:17.47nevcairieli rewatched that too often
13:18.00nevcairielstuff gets boring when y ou remember the plot entirely
13:18.12Gnarfozand contrary to many other shows with 26 episodes per season, almost none of it is filler
13:18.17Gnarfozwhich is kind of amazing
13:18.17znfare there blu-rays for that?
13:18.21Gnarfozhaha no
13:18.29znfthat's a hard no from me then
13:18.31Gnarfozthere are just DVDs and those are fucking horrible
13:18.44nevcairieleven the DVDs are kinda subpar quality, the show is just old and was filmed a bit on a budget
13:18.48nevcairielbut nevertheless its still great
13:19.01Gnarfozthe show was filmed on 35mm even
13:19.11Gnarfozbut the studio then took several really boneheaded shortcuts
13:19.12quiescensputting stuff on newer media doesn't magically make it higher quality?
13:19.12nevcairielwell the CGI was rendered cheap anyway
13:19.33znfquiescens, they can rescan and do good cgi!
13:19.36znflike they did on TNG
13:19.36nevcairielit was rendered in 480p NTSC at 30 fps, while the live action was shot at another frame rate
13:19.41quiescensthe battlefront thingy, is there other stuff that they unlock on the way?
13:19.55Gnarfozthis section is a disgrace to read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babylon_5#Mastering_problems
13:20.28quiescensor is it like, you have to save up x amount to buy that and if you buy any other stuff it will delay it even more?
13:20.41Gnarfozthey did basically everything wrong, even though it was produced with much foresight
13:21.10GnarfozI watched the pilot film/episode just last night and that one seems to not have been molested that way
13:21.30Gnarfozeven though the CGI in there was done a bit cheaper, it still looks better than the end result on the DVDs for the show
13:21.42Gnarfozwhich is just ???
13:21.59nevcairielyeah there is a long threads on various video processing forums on how to improve and clean it up
13:22.02nevcairielbut its just a mess
13:22.46Gnarfozindeed... someone did really extensive manual work like this for TNG, DS9 and VOY, months of fiddling :D felt kind of sad to throw those out when the Blu-Ray came alongn
13:22.49znfGnarfoz, my supplier just gave me 5-6 weeks delivery for PDUs lol
13:22.58quiescensgrats
13:23.08znfI'll rather order them from UK lol
13:23.10Gnarfozyeah, ours took at least that long as well
13:23.10znf5-7 days tops
13:23.18znfwhat is it with these delivery times?
13:23.36Gnarfozit's enterprisey stuff? it sometimes takes a while. they don't keep huge inventory, apparently
13:23.53znfyeah, fuck that
13:23.58GnarfozI've certainly gotten used to stuff taking a while...
13:24.14znfI'll just get https://mindmachine.co.uk/product/px2-2530-raritan-3ph-wye-400v-ac-32a/
13:24.22znfAvailability: Back-ordered on request, delivery typically 5-7 days
13:24.53Gnarfozwhich means... that they don't have it either
13:25.01Gnarfozand will order it from their supplier
13:25.04znfnice
13:25.04Gnarfozso... good luck
13:25.16znfoh well, I give up
13:25.19nevcairieli  just ordered something that said 5-7 days from supplier last week and it shipped today, sometimes this works!
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13:25.34Gnarfoz(on the other hand, HDS' replacement disks sometimes reach us before we even noticed a disk died :D)
13:25.40nevcairiellol
13:25.51nevcairielmaybe you should get memos from their reporting
13:26.34Gnarfozyeah it hasn't happened since I fixed the email setup they created
13:26.36Gnarfoz^^
13:26.40nevcairielhehe
13:26.46znfhttp://www.kvm-online.de/index.php?cat=PX2_2000&product=PX2-2530
13:26.50znftranslate, please
13:27.02Gnarfozthat's an oddly specific web shop to operate
13:27.07nevcairielthere is nothing to translate there
13:27.15nevcairielexcept it says delivery ca. 1 week
13:27.24znfzusedended
13:27.25znf?
13:27.25Gnarfozsame thing, ~1 week delivery
13:27.31znfpreisliste zusenden
13:27.37znfprojektprise
13:27.40znfwgatever the hell
13:27.43znffucking image buttons
13:28.03nevcairielthose two are just email links, they want you to contact them about prices
13:28.05Gnarfozthose link to email:blah@blah?subject=
13:28.18Gnarfozone asks for the price list, the other for project pricing
13:28.31quiescenseven without speaking german, preisliste zusenden sounds a lot like price list send
13:28.37Gnarfoz(which means you outline what your project is and they get back to you with a custom price, if possible)
13:29.23znfhttps://i.imgur.com/EXGQ8bN.png
13:29.24znffuck this
13:29.29znffuck this shit so hard
13:29.32znfI'm done.
13:29.36Gnarfozso you could indeed ask them "hey I want to power 75 1600 W rated space heaters... err, bitcoin miners, and we have IEC blah input available, what would you recommend and at what price?" ^^
13:29.44nevcairielmaybe you should move to a country thats not so backwards =p
13:29.45Gnarfozhaha
13:29.55znfThey can take their cryptocoin miners and shove them up their asses
13:29.59znffucking french people
13:30.06quiescensznf so angry o.o
13:30.07nevcairielnot sure thats going to run them very well
13:30.14Gnarfoztbh, why have an english website and then only offer Austria/Germany
13:30.27znfGnarfoz, it's the .de website, just run trough google translate
13:30.28nevcairielhow is that website english
13:30.37Gnarfozznf tricksed me
13:30.39znfwhen it doesn't completely fail me
13:30.41nevcairielhehe
13:30.51znf2 times out of 10, it translates german into something readable
13:30.55quiescensznf is a tricksy little hobbitses
13:31.12nevcairielso, znf has hairy feet?
13:31.25znfquiescens, I'm angry because they asked me all about little shit(s) that I could care less
13:31.37quiescensmachine translate works well for properly written and well structured sentences
13:31.54nevcairielwhy do you put those miners into a datacenter anyway, they dont really need any bandwidth do they, just power. maybe they should hire a power plant
13:31.56quiescensbut yeah, not good for short hand, sentence fragments, titles and stuff
13:32.12znfbut then they decide to order a ton of devices that use the power of a small american suburb and ship them to us
13:32.19znfnevcairiel, I have no ieda
13:32.31znfcooling, I guess?
13:32.44znfthey really have no fucking idea what they're doing
13:32.47nevcairielif someone would send me a bunch of hardware without fully clarifying setup first, i would just s end it back
13:33.44znf>math calc 1600 * 75 * 744
13:33.45Catal1na89280000
13:39.59znfcolleague told me that they are at the datacenter
13:40.06znfand they are talking about NOT installing them in the DC
13:40.14znf...where the fuck do you think you are getting the power for that?
13:40.16znfjesus. fucking. christ.
13:40.24Gnarfozlet him figure it out
13:40.25Gnarfoz:D
13:40.32znfie: they want them outside the dc
13:40.38znfas in, the office
13:40.49nevcairieljust run a few power cords over there
13:40.56nevcairielits np
13:41.11quiescensbuy some AA batteries
13:41.22nevcairielthe good thing is you probably dont need any heaters in winter any more
13:41.30Gnarfozwell, maybe an analogy can help?
13:41.51Gnarfozhave him ask them if they've ever tried running 75 1600W vacuum cleaners in their living room
13:41.52znfthey didn't tell me directly
13:41.54winkapology? :D
13:41.54znfso, I don't care
13:42.02winknot analogy :D
13:42.15quiescenshow many people have a 1600w vacuum cleaner o.o
13:42.30znfhow powerful is your vacuum cleaner?
13:42.31nevcairielits not that high for vacuums
13:42.38nevcairielat least older ones
13:42.58winkuyea
13:43.06Gnarfozmine is 1600W, actually
13:43.08winkthey can easily blow a fuse if you run jsut 3 of them
13:43.10winkat the same time
13:43.14winki.e. start them :d
13:43.16znfwink, yup
13:43.16quiescensoic
13:43.37Gnarfoznot surprising, 1600W/230V=almost 7A
13:43.52Gnarfozconsidering we use 16A breakers in most residential places in .de ^^
13:44.12nevcairielsometimes even only 10A for the normal fuses
13:44.20Gnarfozyeah, mostly in older buildings
13:44.49Gnarfozmeh, I need to get some work done
13:44.55quiescenswoek woek
13:45.05nevcairielme too, but i have been slacking off the last two weeks or so
13:45.27Gnarfozor at least complete these mandatory instruction courses about workplace safety, first aid and blah
13:45.45Gnarfozso at least something disappears from the huge to-do pile :D
13:45.50winklol
13:46.01winkGnarfoz: Stapelfahrer Klaus? :D
13:46.14nevcairielhe works in the office, so not likely
13:46.16wink*Stapler
13:46.20winkdoesn't matter!
13:46.34Gnarfoz"first aid in the workplace, part 2", or "mental stress - useful knowledge for employees"
13:47.08nevcairieli have two huge tasks on my to do pile, both will l ikely take a couple weeks, and i should just start and get into it, but starting such huge tasks always requires some  self-convincing =p
13:47.37GnarfozI already got off my butt and completed "Business trips - safety while traveling" and "fire protection training" last week
13:47.46quiescensgo to sleep o.o
13:47.47Gnarfoztotally worth it...
13:47.47winkI think I've never had either of these situations
13:48.27Gnarfozthen I can get back to something actually useful, like creating a new web load balancer setup from scratch
13:48.47Gnarfoz(as you can deduce, doing the training shit first is obviously just procrastination)
13:49.03Phixionthis safety shit is mandatory here
13:49.07Phixionfucking hate it
13:49.19Gnarfozit is here as well, I have until... end of this month to complete them, I think
13:49.38GnarfozI hate being aware of my own procrastination :D
13:50.02Phixion:)
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16:23.51Gnarfozmore powerrrrrr https://www.computerbase.de/2017-11/sapphire-radeon-rx-vega-64-nitro/
16:24.11Gnarfoz525W oO add 3 of those and you have one of those stupid bitcoin miners :P
16:25.37znfthe bitcoin miners do 15TH/s
16:26.00znfthis pathetic thing does 100MH/s
16:31.58quiescensits probably trying to be a graphics card or something
16:35.30Gnarfozhttps://geizhals.de/?phist=1235144&age=9999 DRAM prices :|
16:35.56Gnarfozactually, those miners do 15 GH/s, not TH/s :P
16:36.03Gnarfozjust off by x1000
16:36.09Gnarfozand they're not even bitcoin miners :(
16:36.49znfAntminer S9
16:37.16znfAntminer S9-13.5TH/s
16:37.18znfoff by 1.5TH/s
16:37.51Gnarfozthose are not the ones you're dealing with, tho ;}
16:38.10znfwho said I was talking about the ones I'm dealing with? :P
16:38.15znfI was just referring to other things!
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16:49.19Funkeh`gotta love spam hell bans not even working, wonder if they can do anything right
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20:54.13znfha
20:54.16znfklingon boobies
20:58.08znfGnarfoz: what the hell did Lorca do?
20:58.21Gnarfoz?
20:58.23Gnarfozto?
20:58.28znflast jump
20:58.38znfdid he do something?
20:58.39Gnarfozprobably nothing at all?
20:58.47znfor just shit happened?
20:59.09nevcairielstop spoilering
20:59.10Gnarfozin the episode I watched, they showed Stamets going bonkers
20:59.12Gnarfoznot Lorca
20:59.16Gnarfozso... :D
20:59.31znfit's the first time they showed Lorca inputing nav coords
20:59.42znfand for a brief second you see the list of all jumps
20:59.48Gnarfozwas it? I guess I didn't even notice
21:00.01Gnarfozguess you might have a point and I should re-watch that bit :p
21:00.38Gnarfoz(it would fit the character they've established thus far)
21:00.55znfand that "soon" from klingon lady still leaves room for a plot line that tyler is klingon dude
21:02.07znf>tv star trek discovery
21:02.09Catal1naStar Trek: Discovery 2017 (Running). Previous Episode: [1x9] Into the Forest I Go on 2017-11-12 (0420 hours). Next Episode: [1x10] Despite Yourself on 2018-01-07 (032 months). http://www.tvmaze.com/shows/7480/star-trek-discovery
21:02.19znfand there was no "after trek" episode on netflix?
21:02.26Gnarfozno idea, I don't have NF
21:02.36znfoh
21:02.49znfthere's this silly talk show where they invite some actors
21:02.52znffrom the show
21:03.06znfand they ask them shit and sometimes there are interesting things about the episode
21:04.26Gnarfozyeah I know what it is, I just don't have access to it (I guess I could pirate that as well :P)
21:04.47Gnarfozwhat am I standing at the AH for?
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