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00:16.31nebulanow trump can be even more descriptive with his insults when he feels he's been slighted
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00:21.42znffucking retarded developers
00:21.56znflet's delete public_html
00:22.08znfthen fucking symlink public_html to their site name
00:22.31znfcouldn't understand why this wasn't working
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13:24.29nevcairielman the amount of curse points i get has really gone down the last two months, twitch putting the screws to the program? =p
13:39.45StanzillaI get like nothing
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13:40.40nevcairielshouldnt WA make some points
13:41.43Stanzillayes but its like half than what it was a few months ago
13:42.45nevcairielyeah same here
13:43.03nevcairielbut apparently i forgot to cash in a few months, so i had like a bunch accumulated still
13:50.03winkdid anyone of you ever use any teamspeak stuff besides "I use the client/server"? e.g. the SDK
13:53.17silentium~ugt
13:53.17purlmethinks ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html
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15:39.20znfwink, that costs money, doesn't it? (ie: actually using it in a product)
15:39.30winkno clue
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15:53.50znf#romania: Consumer Protection Agency, their Online website for complaints - only opened between 8:30 and 18:30.
15:54.12winkgermany has that as well
15:54.13quiescenswhat did you break this time?
15:54.47Phixionromania
15:55.12winkznf: https://twitter.com/ausnahmsweise/status/928220312969281537
15:55.30winkGermany, tax stuff :P
15:55.34winkcan't make that shit up
15:55.51znf5:00 - 23:00 sounds better than 8:30 - 18:30
15:56.03znfhttps://scontent.fotp3-3.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/23415195_10215030531379872_8383005802740666466_o.jpg?oh=0c222c57847aaf0f8868d77a50c0c0b9&oe=5A9861BB
15:56.05znfromania :P
15:56.31quiescens5-23.. maybe they just have a really poorly designed maintenance cycle
15:57.09Phixionor a really good one
15:59.02winkznf: is singular/plurar in romanian like.. regular? or as fucked up as english?
15:59.31winkbecause everytime you post stuff I think I need to dig deeper because it looks so much like latin/italian
16:00.37znfthat's because it's a latin-based language?
16:01.03znfbec - light bulb
16:01.09znfbecuri - light bulbs
16:01.29znfom - human
16:01.33znfoameni - humanoids
16:01.37znfoameni - humans
16:02.43winkwell, spanish also is
16:02.55winkand spanish is really far from latin afaict :P
16:03.08znfnot that much
16:03.19znfwe can learn spanish/italian and other latin-based languages pretty easy
16:03.31znfI learned italian by myself by watching tv when I was a kid
16:03.32winksee, I find Italian easy and Spanish hard :P
16:04.05znfwhen we got cable, back in the 90's, there weren't many TV channels, so we had like 4 or 5 Italian tv channels
16:04.06winkbut maybe I haven't heard enough people *talk* romanian and only written it seems so close
16:04.13winkinteresting
16:04.15znfthey had a lot of cartoons :P
16:04.22znfso kids my age learned pretty fast
16:04.28winkbut really, so many?
16:04.35winkI only knew Rai 1 and 2 as a kid :>
16:04.47winkdid they even HAVE that many channels?
16:04.49znfRai Uno, Due, Tre, Italia Uno, Rette Quattro, Canale Cinque
16:04.59winkoh, Rete. right
16:05.12winkI thought Rai 3 was newer
16:05.18winkbut maybe we just stayed at shitty hotels
16:05.25winkwho didnt have cable or proper sat
16:05.32znfthough we didn't have Rai Tre for much time, as back then cable was new, so they had limited channel slots :P
16:05.51znfcable in romania was initially 8 channels :D
16:06.07znfbecause cable-modules back then came in 8 slots
16:06.14winkI don't remember, as a kid we had only 3 channels. then with cable it was... like 10 total?
16:06.33winkpretty sure it was more than 8 though
16:06.46znfmy parents worked for the cable company back then
16:06.48winkbecause we had one shitty tv where inputting 2 digit channels was a real chore
16:06.51winkthat's why I remember
16:07.12znfthe cable system thingie (I've no idea how it's called in english) had 8 slots
16:07.18znfand they were expensive as fuck back then
16:07.27winkhm, not here.
16:08.00znfkeep in mind we were under a socialist regime until '89
16:08.11winkI do remember when my parents bought the house there was cable installed, but switched off. so all the time some guy came and wanted to check if the seal was still intact
16:08.20znfso after that, we were poor and we scraped by
16:08.26winkso at some point my dad said fuck it, let's get cable so the guy won't annoy us anymore
16:08.38znfpeople built small cabletv companies from scratch
16:08.44znfthere were no major players back then
16:08.56winkwe might have had a monopoly back then. not so sure
16:09.20winkI was never that interested in TV :P
16:09.33winkworks - nice / doesn't work - meh
16:10.18znfah, yes, modulators, that's what they were called
16:11.02znfso there were equipment like these http://images.mondoplast.ro/Modulator-CATV-Maiwei-MW-318BS-110-300MHZ_1785_3.jpg
16:11.08znfbut in a rack-like configuration, sort of
16:11.21znfwith 8 slots, that was the beggining of cable in our small town
16:11.44znfby the early 2000's, small companies started to buy each other
16:11.48winkI really only remember one small wall-mounted thingy
16:11.57winkand this was in.. early 90s
16:12.34znfwell, that was the equipment the operators were using in their "Data-centers" :P
16:12.39znfnot the consumer one
16:12.40winkoh nice, found a list. https://kabel-blog.de/25-jahre-deutsches-kabelfernsehen/
16:13.17wink14 channels by 1993
16:13.30znfnow, consider this - we had 8 channels, and one of them was already the national TV channel
16:13.38znfbecause they were required to re-broadcast that
16:13.44znfand that was already FTA
16:14.20znfso, we had a late start
16:14.27znfbut at least we came out with nice internet from this
16:14.31winkhehe
16:15.12winkI still haven't fully grasped how it works. e.g. in Munich there are 2 cable companies, so you have to always look up your address which one could service you
16:15.26nevcairielwink: you must have read that link wrong, it says 22 tv channel in the first year (1982) already, not sure where you got 14
16:15.30winkbut it's not per street or hood. it can be random
16:15.44znfmost companies are in all locations here
16:15.54winknevcairiel: counting in the 2nd paragraph. (Neben den...)
16:16.00znfin my building I have at least 2 providers of cable/internet
16:16.26winkso it's kinda contradicting itself? I'm confused now
16:16.40nevcairielmaybe it didnt list everything
16:17.01winkyou're right though, I guess
16:17.17nevcairielor the 22 is the amount of c hannel they had room for? its not very clearly written
16:17.28winkaye, doesn't matter anyway
16:17.39winkI remember we had TRT and TV5 as well, but not sure if from the start
16:17.43winkalso ORF
16:18.02nevcairielmy memory from that time is hard to arrange by exact dates
16:19.50nevcairieli wonder if cable is still considered "premium" in america, and the majority still uses OTA
16:20.04winkamerica is simply fucked up :P
16:20.14nevcairielindeed
16:20.28winkyou have "global" networks/channels
16:20.38winkthen affiliates, eg. NBC East and West
16:20.49winkthen everybody and their mom might have a regional overlay
16:20.55nevcairielwell its a consequence of such a big country with 4 timeszones
16:20.55winkthere's also DirecTV
16:21.11winknah, it's not really a consequence
16:21.22winkthey have channels that broadcast on 1 frequency (fine)
16:21.28winks/freq/time(
16:21.40winksome on 2 times (e.g. east and west) (also fine)
16:21.47winkbut some are synched in time, until they are not
16:22.03winkthen they broadcast different shit for a while, to be synched up again after a few hours
16:22.19winkthen ads are also layered ontop of each other
16:22.30winkthere can be national ads, regional ads, and local ads
16:22.45winkso yes, the root of all evil is probably the big country
16:22.52nevcairielprobably grown oganically from a bunch of smaller stations joining up over time, legacy shit
16:22.53winkbut there could've been saner approaches
16:23.24winkand no, don't ask why I know enough about this stuff without ever having been there or having watched it
16:30.08znfCanceled: "The Mist"
16:30.08znfAnnounced: Sept. 27, 2017
16:30.08znf<PROTECTED>
16:30.11znf:-|
16:30.14znffucking hell
16:30.20znfI was actually interested to see where this was going
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16:56.53winkhmm, going through old screenshots
16:57.12winkthis ones timestamp looks like 2008-04-20
16:57.18winkand it shows a paladin named Fiskerdin
16:57.57winkhttps://stuff.art-core.org/games/wow/never.jpg
17:14.31nevcairielyeah that guy is weird
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18:09.52FiskerAm not
19:03.23Gnarfozthat screenshot reminds me of another thing Classic WoW "enthusiasts" will need to adjust to: spell reagents
19:03.44Getheand ammo
19:03.47FiskerTHE GAME WAS GOOD
19:03.54FiskerDAMNIT
19:04.09Getheand pet happiness
19:04.27Gethespell ranks
19:04.43Getheactually using the class trainers
19:04.55Gnarfozwe should really make a list of all the terrible things, and make sure Blizzard puts them in :P
19:05.09Gethelol
19:19.05nevcairielsome of those i kinda liked for the overall flair
19:25.05Stanzillaweapon oil never made sense to me
19:25.17nevcairieldidnt they have sharpening stones
19:25.21nevcairielfor melee
19:25.24Stanzillayes
19:25.30nevcairielprobably needed to invent something for range
19:25.37nevcairielhere, have some spell oil
19:25.59nevcairielbut what was one more consumables in the ocean of stuff you used
19:26.06nevcairielwhipper root tubbers from felwood!
19:38.33winkfarming cloth for weeks for exalted (other race) rep
19:38.49winkGnarfoz: yes, we should. :D
19:40.24GnarfozI totally farmed Stormwind rep to have a horse as a gnome
19:40.49winkI farmed ogres in deadwind pass for the pvp raptor (orc)
19:41.21Gnarfozmemory is fuzzy if I had an epic mount before they re-did those, and traded it in, or if I was too broke to afford it before they did
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19:41.42winkI couldn't afford one, so waited for rank 11
19:41.43winkI do remmeber :P
19:43.49nevcairieli farmed AV for faction rep
19:43.55nevcairielthat was easier then anything outside
19:51.07winkhmm, I don't remember
19:55.30FiskerHey Seerah
19:55.46Seerahhihi, Fisker
19:56.02FiskerBlizzcon is gonna be 3 days next year or else
19:56.26Seerahhehe
19:56.37FiskerYou think this is a game?!
19:57.08SeerahI told you, it'll cost more
20:04.28znfhttp://www.imdb.com/
20:04.29znf:o
20:13.28FiskerI'll spare no expense Seerah
20:13.36FiskerAlso looks like I can fly back Monday next year
20:13.46winkznf, destroyer of internets
20:14.07Seerahwell, that certainly makes it cheaper ;)
20:14.10FiskerI'm thinking about just buying plane tickets first week of November
20:17.03nevcairielthat is quite the gamble
20:18.25FiskerIs it any worse than Overwatch loot boxes?
20:20.25Funkeh``overwatch loot boxes are no longer bad
20:20.52FiskerIs there Blizzcon coverage on travel insurance?
20:22.50winkbad loot box insurance?
20:42.33znfnevcairiel, ever had issues with Win10 and a 1440p display?
20:42.57znfMy friend can't seem to get 1:1 pixel mapping unless he does some wizardry with 125% scaling and shit like that
20:45.31nevcairielmaybe he just fails
20:46.19znfhe got a new platform (cpu/ram/mobo/gpu), installed win10 fresh, but kept the old monitor
20:46.26znf...but he uses fucking HDMI
20:46.36nevcairielonly one monitor?
20:47.50nevcairielif you mix screens with various DPIs things can get messy
20:49.24znfhe also has a TV connected
20:49.41znfShould the solution be to set everythign to 100% scaling?
20:50.13nevcairielthat would probably work
20:50.22nevcairielall things need the same scale or things get fucky
20:50.52znfthanks, I'll let him know
21:02.08winkI really want to know why bnet tries to download overwatch
21:02.19winkwhile still displaying the "buy game" button :P
21:02.33winkdid I really ever download it? was there a free weekend I missed?
21:05.36znfthere were at least 2 free weekends that I can remember in the last 6 months
21:12.07Gnarfozone of them quite recently
21:12.55znfyup, last month I think?
21:14.31GnarfozI'd still question them just downloading it if you hadn't actually clicked the button before :D
21:17.21znfI should really move Overwatch to my SSD
21:18.29znfuhm, where the fuck did my disk space go
21:18.33znfI used to have 40gb free
21:18.52znfOh.
21:18.54znfDestiny 2
21:25.38znfwhat the fuck is battle.net "caching" that amounts to 1.5GB?
21:27.33znfhttps://i.imgur.com/rPWBUsa.png
21:27.38znfI think it's faster to just redownload Overwatch
21:52.52winkas I said, I might be forgetful
21:52.58winkbut Id remember logging in :P
21:53.25winkhehe
22:00.58winkGnarfoz: oh, re: annoyin stuff in vanilla. https://www.keenandgraev.com/2017/11/05/yeah-sums-vanilla-wow
22:01.01winkwasn't too far off
22:14.28znfoh my god
22:14.36znfI had had forgotten completely about keys for dungeons
22:14.52nevcairieli actually liked that concept
22:15.01nevcairieli also liked attunments
22:15.08nevcairielwhich is basically the same thing =p
22:15.41znf...you didn't need to forget to take the ATTUNEMENT from the bank
22:16.18nevcairiellate classic already had the keyring
22:16.47znfI think some keys didn't get into the ring?
22:17.07nevcairielonly the ubrs one really
22:17.08znfmemory is fuzzy
22:17.27nevcairielbecause it was an actual wearable ring
22:17.57nevcairielbut having an ubrs key was special anyway, so you practically always carried it with you
22:19.56znfkeeping your mounts in the bags!
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22:20.20nevcairieladmittedly that was stupid, but the usual person never carried more then one - they just took up bank space
22:20.54znfnot having sparkly thingies around quest objects
22:21.39nevcairielthat only arrived with what, mop? or even wod?
22:21.40nevcairiel:D
22:21.55znfsoulshards!
22:21.57znf1 person summons!
22:22.14nevcairieli guess i would feel the pain more on that if i played a lock
22:22.16znflack of mage table!
22:22.20winkdepends on the attunement
22:22.25winksome were good, some were bad
22:22.28winkliked the concept
22:22.30znfmake water for 40 people! :D
22:22.48znfuhm
22:22.55znfWorld Drop spellbooks
22:23.00znfto get your last rank!
22:23.21winkyeah that sucked
22:23.58znfhuge mana costs for raid buffs
22:24.01Megalonhola
22:24.03Megaloncompadres
22:24.10znfbuff, buff, drink, buff, buff, drink
22:24.51Megalonyou get mark of the wild, you get mark of the wild, eeeeveryone gets... oops oom
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22:25.05winkhehe
22:25.19winkI really only raided 40mans for a month iirc or less
22:25.27winkwe were not enough people, so AQ/ZG
22:25.35winkand after that we did MC with another guild
22:25.53winktotal disaster ofc (not progress, but attendance, loot, etc)
22:26.08winkI spent DKP on blue items in ZG!
22:26.33winkand UBRS never dropped those epic daggers
22:27.00Megaloni remember raiding mc and then bwl
22:27.07winkso elite.
22:27.08Megalonthat hour of vaelastrasz tries
22:27.10Megalon:c
22:27.20znftalent treeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees
22:27.23Megalonbut we got server #2 kill after for the horde
22:27.23znfrespecing every time!
22:27.25znf50g!
22:27.30Megalonso we got that going for us back in the days
22:27.30Megalonhaha
22:27.44winkwasn't someone in here in FtH?
22:27.53winklike, someone whos probably not around anymore :P
22:28.09Megalonwe kill him and not 2 weeks later all the leaders of both the guilds that made up the raid
22:28.17Megalonswitched to orcish empire / tia'ra
22:28.24Megalonit was nice <3
22:28.29znffth?
22:28.35winkfor the horde
22:28.57znfhmm, I wonder if I should bother test moira :-S
22:29.36Megalondoes that mean you won't complain about it in this channel?
22:29.44Megalonthen i'd say go for it!
22:30.36znftotally gonna complain about it
22:30.42winkhttp://www.paragon.fi/node/974.html
22:33.44Gnarfozwink: koaschten, but he doesn't hang out here (anymore?)
22:33.53winkGnarfoz: riight, tjanks
22:34.01winkI remember that name indeed
22:34.43winkyou blink like once or twice, 5-10 years have passed and people are gone
22:34.54Gnarfozhe's in #elitistjerks / on twitter still
22:35.00winkthink dracula is the only one left who I was in a guild with :P
22:35.12winkg0urra is also long gone
22:35.53winkand sbu is only a bouncer long forgotten :S
22:36.34winkenough pestering people for today, I guess
22:37.18Gnarfozyeah I wonder what's up with him
22:39.22znf<PROTECTED>
22:39.33Gnarfozhe had that for a longer time :P
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22:48.38winklol, talking about WotLK launch :S http://infobot.rikers.org/%23wowace/20081112.html.gz
23:03.35GnarfozI love when my TV freaks out https://photos.app.goo.gl/mBqRUQ37GBN25v6W2
23:04.01winkwow, I could claim that HS gift with HS not installed, that is neat
23:04.20winkGnarfoz: TV tired, TV needs rest
23:04.51GnarfozSomething like that :3
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23:17.07draculawink: what guild was that?
23:22.47winkdracula: mostly TA until you ran off :S
23:23.42wink*scratches head and tries to remember the order of all guilds..*
23:25.56pompyhttps://www.pcgamesn.com/blizzcon-trolls-kicked-out
23:26.01winkyikes, if only warcraftrealms would've worked a little better and longer maintained. http://www.warcraftrealms.com/charsheet/11355292
23:26.48nevcairieli've only been in like 4 guilds
23:27.14nevcairieland its easy to remember them
23:27.19winknevcairiel: 6 for me. but if you exclude mergers.. only 2
23:27.34winkmergers and splits where at least 10 peopple stayed together.
23:28.18winkok, 3 including that one servertransfer. still ~5-10 people
23:28.22nevcairieltechnically i guess its 5 if you count those cases, had one small guild right at launch that was then absorbed entirely into the raiding guild i was in until wrath
23:28.37winkyeah, not so different.
23:28.56winkBut I raided last in 2014. and since then. meh
23:29.31nevcairielone more hard core guild in cata, then joined Stanzilla's guild as casual community dude for mop, and the latest casual raiding guild for wod and legion
23:30.21nevcairielit was mostly neatrly on expansion borders =p
23:33.15winkI think all of us raiders server transferred when we were not enough (10) anymore in late 2013, then stayed for a few months
23:33.34winkthen stopped playing, came back for a month on WoD launch (most meh expansion)
23:33.49winkthen came back a month before Legion and transferred back, stayed for like 3months
23:34.08winkprobably wont be back until next expansion and there's only like 3 people in the guild left playing
23:34.10winklast I checked
23:34.31nevcairielmy guild just died a few weeks ago, will need to find something new for next expansion probably, wonder how many of us are left at that point that might want to come with, many taking a break now
23:35.27draculaaaah thara!
23:35.43winkmy superpower: stalking people on irc even after 10 years.
23:36.23winkstory time: I once told a guy (at CCC congress: "hey, didn't we play quake together, 15 year ago?") he basically jumped and gave me the "weirdo" look
23:36.25winkbecause I was right!
23:36.31nevcairiellol
23:36.33quiescenso.o
23:36.40winksorry :(
23:36.53winkeven recognized a girl I went to elementary school with after 20 years.
23:37.19quiescensi forget all sorts of things
23:37.25quiescenswho are all you people o.o
23:37.38winkI forget my appointments. or what groceries to buy
23:37.47winkbut not the faces of my enemies^wfriends
23:40.16winkr/swtor is great today
23:40.27wink> Like the title says, we are all saying good bye to the servers, but what about those hamsters that got fired, they merge the servers and BW no longer need that many hamsters. I would like to say thanks, to those hamsters for making sure that the servers stay on (most of the time) using their mouse wheel, Lets hope that those hamster find jobs again.
23:41.39winkhttps://i.redd.it/zxlm7h71dswz.jpg
23:41.41winkmy eyes
23:42.21quiescenswhat is supposedly happening with swtor?
23:42.28winkserver merges today
23:42.41wink3 german ones -> 1, 3 EU -> 1, 3 french -> 1
23:42.49winknot sure about the US ones, but also merges
23:43.11quiescensoic
23:43.12winkso yeah, sign of dying, etc.pp
23:43.21winkbut better like this than nothing
23:43.33winkI came back ~5weeks ago. 0-2 people online on the fleet
23:43.40quiescensa lot of games do server merges though
23:43.44winkon the "dead" german server
23:43.54quiescensno game ever really stays at their peak users for a long time
23:44.00winkyeah. it's a bad sign, but it's a good idea to do it
23:44.05nevcairielIntel today announced they are going to make high-end dedicated GPUs. Shortly before that they announced to produce a CPU that includes a high-end AMD GPU with HBM on the same chip. Interesting week so far.
23:44.12quiescensi wouldn't even say its neccesarily a bad sign
23:44.21winkwell, they launched with "many" german ones
23:44.27quiescenseven the best of games can't expect to grow forever
23:44.29winkand they were kinda merged already once
23:44.34winkso I am absolutely pro merge
23:44.38nevcairielswtor has been dying for a long time, when a mmo goes f2p you know its desperate
23:44.45winkbut condensing it to 3 for whole EU.. not a lot
23:44.51winkdepends..
23:44.53winkbut yeah
23:45.01winkI came back, having a blast, I dont complain
23:45.07winknot sure how long I'll stay. :P
23:45.13nevcairieli played it for the story
23:45.16nevcairielendgame was boring
23:45.18winkyeah
23:45.26winkI have many class stories to catch up
23:45.34winkI raided at launch. was too easy
23:45.40nevcairieli never really finished any light-side class,  maybe i should do that
23:45.48winkthen everyone left. then I left as well (last man standing in the guild)
23:45.50nevcairielthe dark side story was fun
23:46.17winkI think I finished 5 of the original ones now (up from 1, formerly)
23:46.19winkso 3 to go
23:46.32nevcairielalso after basically playing a really evil dark side person 24/7, i had a tendency to snap at people more when on irc, that was weird
23:46.33nevcairiel:D
23:46.38winkand hit max level (70) once, but not finished all expansions yet
23:46.45winklol
23:47.05quiescensnevcairiel is sekretly ebil
23:47.08quiescenso.o
23:47.12winkplaying dark side on republic is really hard
23:47.24winkat least for me, being the model good citiyen I am :D
23:47.47winktis literally "give the meds to the dying children" or "shoot the children"
23:47.53nevcairielplaying a really good jedi is totally weird though, some of the answers dont seem necessarily very "good" to common sense, all this "cant be emotional" crap
23:47.58winkon empire there's at least "screw you, I want profit"
23:48.32winkyeah. but replaying some of it after I played ME1-3.. it's very typical bioware
23:48.36winkalthough shallower
23:48.55nevcairieli guess being evil is just easier
23:49.02Stanzillasame for life
23:49.03winkon empire, yea
23:49.16winkbut playing a fully light smuggler was quite ok
23:49.28winkfully light jedi is more like what you said
23:49.31winkkinda weird
23:49.46winkfully evil sith is also easy
23:50.00winkfully evil bounty hunter.. I only did that because I needed Dark V for the achievment
23:50.10winknow I'm doing more like 80/20
23:50.13nevcairielsome people do weird things like playing fully light on empire
23:50.13winkwhich is a lot more fun
23:50.20winkI also started one of those
23:50.23winksith assassin even
23:50.34winkit was a lot more fun than fully dark trooper
23:50.49winkthere's even some really neat gimmicks when you do that
23:50.57winklike "I cant believe you're such a nice sith" etcpp
23:51.07wink(trying not to spoiler)
23:51.28nevcairielheh
23:51.39winkmaybe.. if I am done I can finally play one of the Dragon Age games
23:51.46nevcairieli liked my sith sorceress from that slave race the most
23:51.51winkyeah
23:52.17winkI'm missing trooper, imperial agent, jedi knight
23:52.21nevcairielforgot what the race was called
23:52.48winkhm, aren't oyu always a slave as a sith assasin?
23:52.56winkerr, sorc. base class
23:53.08winkmine's a sih pureblood, but I also saw rattataki
23:53.14winkI think the slave part is class-specifi
23:53.14quiescensi always found the evil path weird in games
23:53.37nevcairieli meant Rattataki, but maybe you're right, its been a long time
23:54.42winkquiescens: yeah, I think I couldnt play paragon ME. but dark side on empire is really ok
23:56.59quiescensi'm sure there are some that are okay, specifically when there is a completely different storyline on each side
23:57.31winkthere are even 8 class stories
23:57.34quiescensits just weird when they try to get you to do the same basic storyline and its like, why am i doing this if the character is supposedly evil
23:57.55winkhmm, yeah, but *I* think SWTOR did that really well
23:58.05winkyou have your class story, and the planet story. and the normal sidequests
23:58.15winknowadays (as a subscriber) I can skip all the sidequests
23:58.20winkand just do class/planet
23:58.34winkand obv there's 2 planet stoeries, one for each faction
23:58.44winkand they are semi-intertwined
23:58.46winkso sometimes you
23:58.55wink're 100% opposite, sometimes it's.. unrelated
23:59.14winkbut yeah, usually empire = evil|careless and republic = kinda nice|caring

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