00:01.00 | Ackis | Stanzilla and Torhal were talking 'bout me! |
00:01.23 | Myrroddin | gives Ackis a cookie |
00:01.26 | Torhal | We thought we'd imagined you. |
00:06.58 | Ackis | also hi Myrroddin - doing well. Tired as fuck. Much work. |
00:07.59 | Myrroddin | that means you can appreciate relaxation after work |
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00:51.42 | znf | Who's this Ackis ghost thing? |
01:10.11 | quiescens | why does battlenet not reliably stay logged in o.o |
01:19.58 | Funkeh` | I can't remember the last time I had to log into battle.net |
01:42.29 | quiescens | whenever bnet is down for maintenance or whatever reason, my bnet app thing decides to show the login screen again |
01:43.27 | quiescens | i'll try restarting it entirely i guess |
01:55.42 | znf | >math calc pi ** pi |
01:55.42 | Catal1na | 36.4621596072 |
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02:49.55 | znf | >math calc pi ** pi ** pi |
02:49.56 | Catal1na | 1340164183006339840 |
02:58.44 | quiescens | i.. don't think that is right |
02:59.09 | quiescens | is it? |
03:00.30 | Fisker | I don't know what ** is so who knows |
03:04.39 | nebula | it's the silly python power operator |
03:05.24 | quiescens | oh i get why it sounded so wrong |
03:06.45 | quiescens | the difference between (pi^pi)^pi, and pi^(pi^pi) o.o |
03:07.05 | znf | yes, ** is ^ |
03:07.25 | znf | >math calc (pi ** pi) ** pi |
03:07.27 | Catal1na | 80662.6659386 |
03:07.34 | znf | >math calc pi ** (pi ** pi) |
03:07.35 | Catal1na | 1340164183006339840 |
03:07.41 | quiescens | i was thinking the first one and was like, there is no way that is that many digits o.o |
03:08.26 | quiescens | is it odd that it is the latter when there is no parenthesis? |
03:08.39 | znf | seems so |
03:09.06 | Funkeh` | you could also just have the bot convert ^ instead of passing it through raw |
03:09.21 | znf | that would mean I have to change the default plugin :P |
03:09.22 | nebula | but what if you wanted to xor?! |
03:09.27 | znf | >xor |
03:09.29 | Catal1na | xor <password> <text> |
03:09.32 | znf | ^^ |
03:09.40 | znf | >list |
03:09.42 | Catal1na | Admin, Alias, Anonymous, AutoMode, Bluray, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Cinemacity, Cobe, Config, Ctcp, Currency, Filter, Format, Freenode, Games, 02G04o08o02g03l04e, Grasshoppaz, Herald, IgnoreEmptyCommands, Internet, Math, Misc, Network, News, Nickometer, Owner, Plugin, PluginDownloader, RelevantGif, Reply, Seen, Services, SpiffyTitles, Status, String, Time, Todo, Topic, URL, UrbanDictionary, User, Utilities, (1 more message) |
03:09.44 | znf | >more |
03:09.45 | Catal1na | WolframAlpha, Wowalert, WunderWeather, and tvmaze |
03:12.50 | quiescens | iuno how accurate the second result is either, at that scale it probably depends how accurate your pi is i guess |
03:12.53 | quiescens | needs better pie |
03:13.13 | nebula | >match calc cooke ** cookie ** cookie |
03:13.20 | nebula | damit |
03:13.32 | quiescens | o.o |
03:13.42 | quiescens | gives nebula a cookie |
03:13.55 | znf | >math calc cookie |
03:13.56 | Catal1na | Error: 'cookie' is not a defined function. |
03:14.21 | znf | hmm |
03:14.28 | znf | >math calc ceil(7.6) |
03:14.29 | Catal1na | 8 |
03:15.11 | znf | >math calc pow(pi, pi) |
03:15.12 | Catal1na | 36.4621596072 |
03:15.13 | quiescens | why is it math calc anyway? is there some other kind of math command that it can work with? |
03:15.34 | znf | quiescens: google calc |
03:15.35 | znf | >calc |
03:15.35 | Catal1na | Error: The command "calc" is available in the 02G04o08o02g03l04e and Math plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "calc". |
03:15.40 | znf | >google calc |
03:15.41 | Catal1na | 02g04o08o02g03l04e calc <expression> |
03:15.46 | znf | >google calc 75 * 32 |
03:15.49 | Catal1na | 75 * 32 = 2400 |
03:15.56 | znf | >google calc 75 ** 32 |
03:15.57 | quiescens | but like, is there a >math somethingotherthancalc |
03:15.58 | Catal1na | 75 ** 32 = 1.0045242572063328E60 |
03:16.01 | znf | >google calc 75 ^ 32 |
03:16.03 | Catal1na | 75 ^ 32 = 1.0045242572063328E60 |
03:16.04 | znf | >list math |
03:16.05 | Catal1na | base, calc, convert, icalc, rpn, and units |
03:16.08 | znf | yes |
03:16.12 | znf | >math base 2 |
03:16.13 | Catal1na | 2 |
03:16.15 | quiescens | oic |
03:16.18 | znf | >help math base |
03:16.20 | Catal1na | (math base <fromBase> [<toBase>] <number>) -- Converts <number> from base <fromBase> to base <toBase>. If <toBase> is left out, it converts to decimal. |
03:16.39 | znf | >math base 10 16 23 |
03:16.41 | Catal1na | 17 |
03:16.55 | znf | >help math icalc |
03:16.56 | Catal1na | (math icalc <math expression>) -- This is the same as the calc command except that it allows integer math, and can thus cause the bot to suck up CPU. Hence it requires the 'trusted' capability to use. |
03:17.04 | znf | >help math rpn |
03:17.04 | Catal1na | (math rpn <rpn math expression>) -- Returns the value of an RPN expression. |
03:17.28 | znf | >math rpn 15 7 1 1 + â ÷ 3 à 2 1 1 + + â |
03:17.28 | Catal1na | Error: "â" is not a defined function. |
03:17.49 | znf | >math rpn 1 2 3 + 3 - |
03:17.49 | Catal1na | Stack: [1, 2] |
03:18.08 | nebula | i had a friend that loved using rpn |
03:18.10 | znf | >math rpn -5.7 abs round |
03:18.10 | Catal1na | 6 |
03:18.17 | quiescens | rpn is ebil |
03:18.21 | znf | never understood rpn |
03:18.22 | nebula | i agree |
03:18.24 | quiescens | >math rpn 1 1 + |
03:18.24 | Catal1na | 2 |
03:18.28 | quiescens | \o/ |
03:18.30 | quiescens | victory |
03:19.11 | znf | I don't understand why would it ever be useful |
03:19.53 | quiescens | i guess there is no ambiguity or required parenthesis |
03:20.22 | znf | 1 1 + just doesn't seem to make any sense :-/ |
03:20.23 | Catal1na | Doesn't seem to be much of a difference :( |
03:20.43 | znf | ok, I really need to know why the fuck does that plugin keep talking in this channel when I specifically disabled it |
03:21.21 | nebula | it's called postfix notation for a reason |
03:21.39 | quiescens | is it? |
03:22.03 | nebula | because reverse polish notation just sounds dumb |
03:22.07 | znf | I'm so bored I'm watching sailor moon |
03:22.26 | quiescens | i don't think you can just call things whatever you want because you don't like the name it was given o.o |
03:22.43 | znf | reverse quiescens notation |
03:22.49 | nebula | college profs called it postfix |
03:22.58 | nebula | that's where i learned it |
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13:43.31 | nevcairiel | quiescens: postfix notation is a recognized name for it, fwiw |
13:44.45 | nevcairiel | but its not very brain-friendly to parse, because you basically need a stack of numbers in your head =p |
13:45.51 | mitch0 | but you don't need parenthesis :) (I sorta missed the beginning of this conversation so I assume you're talking about RPN) |
13:46.34 | nevcairiel | not sure thats really an advantage if the alternative is writing it entirely confusing =p |
13:48.15 | mitch0 | confusing is not |
13:48.19 | mitch0 | ;) |
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15:33.40 | nevcairiel | after having watched the third ep of discovery i definitely know what the comment a few months ago was about that said something like they would break with the "tradition" of not having big internal conflicts within the crew and such =p |
15:39.15 | quiescens | i wouldn't have minded keeping the traditional clean star trek |
15:39.37 | quiescens | there is enough "dark new series" type of thing as it is |
16:01.43 | Fisker | Hey Stanzilla |
16:34.23 | znf | A friend is telling me that he replaced an optical drive with a hdd caddy |
16:34.30 | znf | And it doesn't support 2tb disks |
16:34.33 | znf | Why would that be? |
16:34.46 | znf | The caddy is just a SATA connection |
16:36.50 | nevcairiel | did it occur to you that he may just be an idiot? |
16:36.51 | nevcairiel | :D |
16:37.28 | znf | Yes, but he tells me it doesn't appear in the bios |
16:37.42 | znf | He tested with 1tb and 2tb |
16:37.46 | znf | 2tb won't show |
16:38.26 | znf | I don't know of any limitation |
16:46.53 | Fisker | 4k sectors |
17:17.30 | quiescens | moo |
17:23.08 | znf | Fisker: what about them? Bios doesn't know about it? |
17:23.22 | Fisker | maybe |
17:24.29 | nevcairiel | obviously its possible that the system in general doesnt support that drive |
17:24.36 | nevcairiel | but that would be unrelated to the caddy |
17:27.56 | quiescens | can we just blame znf? |
17:30.02 | nevcairiel | of course |
17:31.05 | quiescens | /blame znf |
17:33.29 | znf | nevcairiel, even weirder |
17:33.38 | znf | he says he moved it to the internal hdd slot on the laptop, it works |
17:34.08 | nevcairiel | who knows whats special about that ODD slot |
17:35.20 | znf | It's a Lenovo T410 |
17:36.48 | Fisker | nothing strange about it znf |
17:37.00 | znf | how so, Fisker? |
17:37.09 | znf | Why would a sata port work and the other not? |
17:37.11 | znf | different controllers? |
17:37.12 | Fisker | it's an ancient computer |
17:37.31 | quiescens | who knows what kind of nonstandard stuff a laptop removable bay does |
17:39.53 | znf | What Core versions is Intel at these days? |
17:39.57 | znf | 8th? |
17:41.41 | Fisker | 10th |
17:41.55 | quiescens | 42 |
17:47.40 | znf | Fisker, dick :( |
17:47.46 | Fisker | not at all |
17:48.15 | Fisker | I assume you meant version of the architecture |
17:48.28 | znf | I mean https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/processors/core.html |
17:48.28 | Fisker | assumed* |
17:48.30 | znf | dick. |
17:48.40 | Fisker | ? |
17:48.47 | Fisker | It's a website |
17:49.06 | znf | yes, 8th generation |
17:49.15 | znf | why are you such a dick usually? :( |
17:49.24 | Fisker | of what? |
17:49.47 | Fisker | not my fault google doesn't know what number it is |
17:50.28 | Fisker | intel* |
17:51.08 | znf | So, my client from yesterday |
17:51.13 | znf | The one that I mentioned money |
17:51.27 | znf | He requested an increase in memory for his VM |
17:51.40 | znf | I did it, now it's obviously still crashing because of out of memory. |
17:55.07 | quiescens | grats |
17:56.10 | znf | fucking cPanel users |
17:57.10 | znf | he seriously prefered a 40⬠price increase, monthly, over a 30â¬/hour charge (I would have probably fixed it in less than an hour) |
18:04.20 | quiescens | grats? |
18:06.37 | znf | quiescens, no |
18:06.55 | znf | because he will bitch that our server is crap and it's because it's not fast enough or some bullshit like that |
18:06.58 | quiescens | ): |
18:07.04 | znf | classic "let's just throw more resources at it" |
18:34.24 | znf | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPo8vGdU0QM&feature=youtu.be |
18:34.25 | znf | what the fuck |
18:34.30 | znf | didn't know you could fucking do that as lucio :-| |
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21:19.49 | nevcairiel | do what, use his wall-walking to get across the map? |
21:21.01 | nevcairiel | isnt that like one of his key mechanics? =p |
21:21.09 | nevcairiel | even i know that, and i havent played in forever |
21:37.02 | znf | I wasn't aware you could do it at that extent :o |
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21:54.39 | znf | [...] Games of Thrones' Jason Momoa |
21:54.44 | znf | I hate that expression :( |
21:55.00 | znf | Poor guy plays a season in GoT, who cares about his... what? 5 years in SG:A? :( |
21:55.46 | nebula | thought you were talking about "Games of Thrones" |
21:57.03 | znf | nah, Jason Momoa! |
21:57.04 | nebula | and actor's are usually referred to using their biggest and/or latest work |
21:57.11 | nebula | actors* fuck off ' |
21:57.13 | nevcairiel | if anything its usually the most recent prominent work |
21:57.25 | nevcairiel | who remembers SG:A from years ago |
21:57.37 | nebula | angry romanians, apparently |
21:58.16 | znf | ha, he was in Baywatch |
21:58.16 | znf | wtf |
21:58.24 | nevcairiel | his role in GoT wasnt even that huge, he did pretty quickly :p |
21:58.46 | nebula | i'd take GoT over Aquaman if i was him |
21:58.52 | znf | that's why it annoys me... |
21:58.54 | nevcairiel | heh |
21:59.31 | znf | he made is as far as the season finale, afaik |
21:59.33 | znf | that's about it :D |
21:59.37 | znf | on par with ned stark |
21:59.58 | znf | anyway, trailer for Pacific Rim <3 |
22:00.20 | nevcairiel | he had a random appearance in a later season or so, but he died in 1.10 yeah |
22:00.30 | nevcairiel | (flashbacks, etc) |
22:01.07 | nevcairiel | or maybe he died in 1.9 and got burned in 1.10 |
22:01.09 | nevcairiel | something like that |
22:01.21 | znf | Anyone else getting so off-put by the DC's universe? |
22:01.21 | nevcairiel | being a corpse is still acting, i suppose |
22:01.53 | znf | I stopped watching Flash/Arrow series, they were so bad |
22:01.56 | nevcairiel | it feels rather cobbled together to me |
22:02.12 | znf | And the whole batman, superman then whatever else, I just couldn't get myself to watch |
22:02.28 | znf | and the whole Flash thing is also weird as fuck - you got a running TV Series |
22:02.29 | nevcairiel | and their series dont relate to the movies at all, which is the part i really like about marvel, that all is kinda linked |
22:02.42 | znf | and at the same time you have the Movie soon that has a different actors |
22:02.45 | znf | yup, that's what bugs me |
22:03.35 | nebula | i remember reading that dc wanted to tie things together with crossover and such, but wanted everything to be completely independent |
22:03.49 | nebula | atleast that was the excuse for the mess that is the dc "universe" |
22:03.56 | nevcairiel | wonder woman was quite a good movie though, but I doubt that she can carry justice league |
22:04.08 | znf | wait, no Arrow in justice league? |
22:04.14 | nevcairiel | nah |
22:04.27 | nevcairiel | they already have one rich arrogant SoB |
22:04.29 | znf | Wasn't he always present in the comics? |
22:04.30 | nevcairiel | cant carry two of those |
22:04.37 | znf | comics/cartoons |
22:05.24 | nebula | <PROTECTED> |
22:06.11 | nevcairiel | using cyborg without any introduction whatsoever in the JL movie is also weird, i have no clue wtf is with that guy |
22:06.23 | znf | so we get just Superman, Aquaman, Flash, Batman and Wonder WOman? |
22:06.33 | znf | no Green Lantern and no Martian Manhunter? |
22:06.34 | nevcairiel | and cyborg |
22:06.50 | znf | I also have no idea what Cyborg is supposed to be/do/whatever |
22:07.11 | znf | who plays Cyborg? |
22:07.25 | nevcairiel | some nobody |
22:07.27 | znf | ah, had to click on the extended cast on imdb |
22:07.41 | nevcairiel | apparently he was shown in BvS, but i dont remmeber that at all |
22:07.52 | znf | that's what I was looking at, too |
22:08.05 | znf | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4123436/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_1 |
22:08.19 | znf | oh yeah, let's make a movie about him 4 fucking years later after we introduce him |
22:09.26 | znf | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5612596/?ref_=nm_flmg_prd_4 |
22:09.28 | znf | wonder what this is |
22:09.43 | nevcairiel | DC probably doesnt even know yet =p |
22:10.13 | znf | Stephen Amell, who plays Green Arrow on the TV show Arrow (2012), expressed interest in having a film adaptation of the character. This could be it. See more » |
22:10.32 | znf | This first feature solo film of the character will be released coinciding it's 40th anniversary year since the character debuted in DC comics in 1980. See more » |
22:10.47 | znf | oh wait, wrong one |
22:11.04 | nevcairiel | you know what would be worse then using a different actor for arrow, using the right actor for arrow but wrong actors for everyone else |
22:11.15 | znf | :D |
22:11.44 | znf | can we just get more Felicity? |
22:12.23 | znf | oh, and I'm not even going to bother watch Legends of TOmorow |
22:12.30 | znf | that seems such a clusterfuck |
22:12.34 | nevcairiel | i cant watch that, its so bad |
22:12.37 | znf | and people say it's bad |
22:12.51 | znf | how the fuck does it have 7.0 on IMDB? |
22:13.13 | nevcairiel | i like supergirl tho, and flash most of the time, although the recent season was rather stupid |
22:13.49 | znf | how did he fuck up the timeline this time? |
22:14.16 | nevcairiel | its very confusing |
22:16.49 | znf | did he get Iris finally? |
22:17.41 | nevcairiel | that was like a season ago, then he saw the latest evil dude kill her in the future and they tried to stop him all season long |
22:18.08 | znf | so she deadeded? |
22:18.24 | nevcairiel | this aint GoT, obviously not |
22:18.30 | znf | damn it |
22:19.12 | znf | quick question - friend asked me if this would be able to boot: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01FU9JS94/ |
22:19.17 | znf | on a mobo that doesn't have an m2 slot |
22:19.50 | nevcairiel | if you use a AHCI SSD it probably can, NVME requires bios support |
22:20.11 | znf | what's the difference? |
22:20.59 | nevcairiel | nvme is a new interface for SSDs with less overhead, AHCI was originally designed for HDDs |
22:21.30 | znf | is there no difference in connector? |
22:21.30 | nevcairiel | although the real-world differences are rather small |
22:21.33 | nevcairiel | no |
22:21.58 | znf | that there seems like a prime candidate for a different fucking slot/connector... |
22:22.06 | nevcairiel | why? |
22:22.08 | nebula | why? |
22:22.23 | znf | put a nvme one in the same slot, no mobo support, no boot |
22:22.30 | nevcairiel | there is three possible drives you can put in there, M.2 SATA, M.2 PCIe AHCI and M.2 PCIe NVME |
22:22.31 | znf | put an ahci one, boot |
22:22.45 | nevcairiel | should my board now have 6 connectors so i can use 2 drives of any sort? |
22:22.53 | nevcairiel | now it just has 2 connectors and I can use whichever I want |
22:23.29 | nevcairiel | (note that M.2 SATA isnt supported at all on such PCIe cards, only the PCIe variants) |
22:23.29 | znf | I don't really like it when there's multiple incompatible tech that uses the same slot :-/ |
22:23.43 | nevcairiel | its not incompatible as such, the drives all work |
22:23.50 | nevcairiel | you just cant boot without bios support |
22:24.19 | nevcairiel | (well, SATA variant doesnt work in a PCIe card like that, but people really dont makle M.2 SATA SSDs much anymore anyway) |
22:24.51 | nevcairiel | its basically different software in the drive =p |
22:26.17 | znf | Shouldn't UEFI have modules for that? |
22:26.34 | znf | like, isn't that one of the points of UEFI, so you can add modules and crap? |
22:26.37 | nevcairiel | good luck getting a vendor of an old board to update that |
22:27.50 | nevcairiel | on intel you probably need a Z97 or newer board to have NVME booting |
22:29.17 | znf | wth is key m and key b |
22:29.34 | nebula | the notches at the bottem |
22:29.44 | znf | why are they 2 versions? :o |
22:30.15 | nebula | so people like you don't see a similar connector and jam something incompatible in there |
22:31.07 | znf | so technically the connector IS different for SATA vs. NVMe/AHCI |
22:31.12 | znf | ? |
22:32.36 | nevcairiel | most mainboards have a combo slot that can take both M or B |
22:33.26 | nevcairiel | actually the other way around |
22:33.42 | nevcairiel | mainboards usually have Key M slots for SSDs, and many SSDs come dual-notched for M and B |
22:34.18 | nevcairiel | there is also other slots, like Key E, which is usually used for peripherals like WiFi modules |
22:48.24 | znf | an M2 seems to be the size of a mini-pcie |
22:48.32 | znf | why would you use an m2 for wifi and other stuff over a mini-pcie? |
22:57.00 | nevcairiel | You do know that M.2 is basically Mini-PCIe v2, right |
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22:58.44 | znf | seems so |
22:58.51 | nevcairiel | its a common standard for all mini PCIe slots you might need |
22:58.54 | znf | I'm wondering why, tough |
22:58.59 | nevcairiel | from SSDs to WiFi modules and whatnot |
22:59.28 | nevcairiel | it replaces both Mini PCIe and mSATA, and SATA Express, into one neat standard |
22:59.47 | nevcairiel | mini-pcie was quite limited, only PCIe 1x |
22:59.53 | nevcairiel | m2 supports up to 4x |
23:01.36 | znf | that makes sens, then |
23:06.54 | znf | wish there'd be a faster way of converting BD subtitles to .srt :-/ |
23:07.53 | nebula | aren't they basically bitmaps? |
23:08.21 | nebula | always thought that was strange |
23:08.56 | znf | they are, yes |
23:09.05 | znf | and they're always too small |
23:09.07 | znf | and crappy aliased |
23:09.11 | znf | no proper shadows |
23:09.12 | nebula | yea |
23:09.13 | znf | they look like hell |
23:09.30 | znf | not sure how the fuck they can produce such horrible subtitles |
23:09.43 | znf | I'll never understand why the industry just didn't use text |
23:09.48 | znf | so the user can customize it |
23:10.36 | znf | Subtitle Edit does a decent job, but it's slow to parse trough them |
23:11.10 | nevcairiel | because text rendering is somewhat complex and avoiding that in devices like a BD player is nice =p |
23:11.26 | znf | at the cost of the subtitles being unreadable? |
23:11.36 | nevcairiel | also BDs can actually embed actual images in their subs which can look neat |
23:11.48 | nevcairiel | stop buying cheap romanian knock-offs i guess |
23:11.59 | znf | I never bought a BD in my life |
23:12.00 | znf | fuck that |
23:12.00 | nevcairiel | BD subs can be at full video resolution, there is no reason for them to look bad |
23:12.20 | znf | they are small, way too fucking small |
23:12.31 | znf | and there's only 1px of outline or something like that |
23:12.31 | nevcairiel | maybe your player sucks and handles them wrong |
23:12.51 | znf | 577x144 is the sub I'm correcting now |
23:13.22 | nevcairiel | obviously you would only make them as big as the text in them, dont need to make a 1920x1080 image just to have a bit of text at the bottom |
23:13.23 | znf | those are 2 lines |
23:14.27 | znf | I've no idea how this Subtitle Edit should work |
23:14.42 | znf | I swear I added a specific name to "names/noise list" dictionary thing at least 5 times |
23:18.15 | znf | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLfUeb9W0AEAGyG.jpg:large |
23:18.16 | znf | heh |
23:22.01 | nevcairiel | the entire code style is totally microsoft as well, without seeing ntdll in there |
23:22.58 | Funkeh` | you don't think starships will be powered by windows? |
23:23.28 | Funkeh` | windows 30, which is when they will finally have their "unified OS for all devices", will have it covered |
23:23.36 | nebula | nope, it'll be windows 10 starship update |
23:25.15 | nebula | actually, i imagine they'll drop the id like osx did, and we'll just have an ever updating Windows |
23:26.01 | Funkeh` | you'll need to get to "mars dome edition" before the starship update |
23:26.54 | nebula | that'll be in the competing muskOS |
23:27.09 | Funkeh` | heh |
23:29.08 | znf | I'm not even sure why they need their stupid unified device |
23:29.14 | znf | they stopped making phones anyway |
23:29.34 | Funkeh` | what's the old saying |
23:29.40 | Funkeh` | the head doesn't know what the tail is doing |
23:29.50 | nebula | still have xbox and tablets |
23:30.09 | znf | are there windows tablets that are arm? |
23:31.19 | nebula | i remember them showing it running on arm, i don't think anyone made any |
23:31.58 | Funkeh` | considering the amount of android tablets coming out, windows arm tablets would be laughable |
23:32.31 | nevcairiel | it would probably be rather short-sighted to ignore arm, laptops will eventually exist |
23:34.12 | nevcairiel | not to mention in servers |
23:35.55 | Funkeh` | https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2017/10/netflixs-uk-internet-tv-movie-stream-service-hikes-prices-top-tiers.html lol yeah that's just going to keep going up |
23:36.24 | Funkeh` | at some point, a vpn will be cheaper |
23:36.31 | nevcairiel | it increased all over the world |
23:36.53 | nebula | yea, uhd is 14/mo here |
23:36.57 | Funkeh` | lol so you can't even blame inflation then |
23:37.07 | nevcairiel | inflation is a global thing? |
23:37.07 | nevcairiel | :D |
23:37.17 | Funkeh` | is that sarcasm? |
23:37.34 | nebula | and it's almost like they have costs, too |
23:37.50 | Funkeh` | do you mean expenses? |
23:38.10 | znf | Regardless of what Microsoft dreams, Windows as an OS lives on because it's "desktop" software |
23:38.14 | Funkeh` | because expenses going up all over the world at the same time is err |
23:38.16 | nebula | pretty sure netflix never really got solidly in the black, they just had enough funding keep trying to fuck up the industry |
23:38.22 | nevcairiel | in any case as long as they are lenient on people sharing accounts within the watch limit, its still quite cheap. I know plenty people that share a standard account - allows 2 people watching, so they just do that |
23:38.47 | znf | we are 4 on an account with UHD enabled |
23:38.48 | Funkeh` | standard account has no HD |
23:38.57 | nevcairiel | standard has HD |
23:39.01 | nevcairiel | premium has UHD |
23:39.18 | Funkeh` | oh the name of their tier 2 account is standard, I see |
23:41.24 | Funkeh` | https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/pages/buy-vpn/ it's already cheaper |
23:41.27 | Funkeh` | heh |
23:42.36 | nevcairiel | not really though? |
23:43.02 | Funkeh` | when sharing accounts you mean? |
23:43.50 | nevcairiel | nah, i mena, which country do you want to come out at, US? netflix tier 2 is $10.99 plus $3.33 VPN, convert to GBP .. thats ~11, more then a tier2 account for you |
23:44.29 | Funkeh` | I wasn't implying buying netflix via the vpn, I was implying torrenting |
23:44.59 | nevcairiel | well stealing is always cheaper then buying =p |
23:47.11 | nevcairiel | and yeah you can really get it for cheap if you share, 4 people on a UHD account is really a lot of savings |
23:47.32 | Funkeh` | it will come a point, if it's not already happening, when people are like "well I bought a vpn for safety/security, might aswell just use it for torrents and fuck netflix price rises" |
23:48.58 | Funkeh` | if you think about it too, when they use the excuse "we want to make netflix originals" etc, they are basically saying "we want you to pay to help us become a monopoly" |
23:50.24 | nebula | you show the man, Funkeh` |
23:51.02 | Funkeh` | how would I show the man |
23:51.13 | nebula | using a vpn and torrenting the world |
23:51.20 | znf | pft |
23:51.23 | znf | VPNs to torrent, lol |
23:51.33 | Funkeh` | yeah expect doing that wouldn't stop it happening unless everyone did that |
23:51.46 | znf | I just torrent without one |
23:51.52 | znf | using a VPN would slow me down :P |
23:52.00 | Funkeh` | lol |
23:52.08 | nevcairiel | you live in a country where noone cares |
23:52.11 | znf | exactly |
23:53.13 | Funkeh` | it's also unlikely they won't implement some form of throttling |
23:53.33 | Funkeh` | maybe pay more for that or something |
23:53.52 | znf | peering wouldn't be the same tough |
23:54.09 | nevcairiel | dont they like want to make porn illegal in the UK, the VPN market would spike! |
23:54.21 | nebula | lol |
23:54.23 | Funkeh` | specific types of porn |
23:54.31 | nebula | "extreme porn" |
23:54.36 | znf | is the porn disabled? |
23:54.45 | Funkeh` | by default yes |
23:54.54 | znf | Funkeh` didn't get the joke :( |
23:55.16 | Funkeh` | we were talking about the UK and porn but oh well |
23:55.27 | Funkeh` | you need to verify your ID to disable the porn filter |
23:55.51 | znf | what about porn with disabled people? |
23:56.01 | Funkeh` | although I think it's mainly just the top ISPs that have opted into it, Im not sure it's mandated by law |
23:56.07 | znf | on a more serious note, what do they do? just DNS? |
23:56.21 | Funkeh` | dunno, probably |
23:56.38 | Funkeh` | only affected new accounts from the date afaik |
23:57.39 | Funkeh` | not gonna toggle it on to find out |
23:59.00 | nebula | i really hope all this puritanical shit dies with all the 50-60+ people in charge of govts |
23:59.16 | znf | I doubt it |
23:59.32 | Funkeh` | considering how much the young love their anti hate speech rhetoric, it will get worse |
23:59.45 | znf | Even some "millenials" have these fucked up views |