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02:13.58Fiskerold Stanzilla and is kind of shit :(
02:14.03Fiskerbut nice
02:27.56Fiskerhttps://9to5google.com/2017/09/11/google-baywolf-headphones-design-images-bisto/ <-if this isn't bose as fuck Stanzilla
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06:14.20Phixionlike a bose
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06:15.55Phixionmorning
06:43.42winkholy fuck
06:44.14winkdo they have to rip off every ugly design from apple?
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12:56.34pompy1~wowalert
12:56.34purlhttp://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: Returns empty content unless there is an active alert]
12:57.11pompy1damn right through weekly reset
13:00.40znf>wowalert
13:00.41Catal1naEU: Scheduled maintenance will be on Wednesday, 13th September from 03:00 (CEST) until 06:00 (CEST). During this time, the game will be unavailable for play.
13:00.42Catal1naUS: We will be performing scheduled maintenance beginning on Tuesday, September 12th, 7:00 AM (PDT) and we expect the service to be available again at approximately 9:30 AM (PDT). During this time the game will be unavailable for play.
13:04.10GnarfozI forget, how close to Nuremberg are you, Stanzilla?
13:04.24Gnarfoznot at all, because you're around Munich? kek
13:04.30Gnarfozmemory comes back at the worst time
13:04.42znfcan I ask you germans about stuff
13:04.52znfwell, actually, I think only Gnarfoz is employed in a german country
13:05.04znfs/german country/germany/
13:05.14Gnarfozmany germanys all around the world :>
13:05.43Megalonyet still the most famous one is from austria 8)
13:05.55Gnarfozalso, Phixion, wink, Trela, hmm I'm sure there's more!
13:05.56znfGnarfoz, question, apart from salary, is it a custom there to be offered "meal tickets"?
13:06.15Gnarfoznot from employers, I'd think
13:06.21znflike, you get 2000€ salary (cash/card), but something extra as meal tickets?
13:06.36Gnarfozhmm
13:06.50nevcairielwe had a cantina in the building where employes got the food a bit cheaper, but not directly as extra tickets or whatever
13:06.52Gnarfozsounds like a low-end dealio for sure
13:07.05Gnarfozyeah what he said might be more commonplace
13:07.24Gnarfozactual coupons/vouchers do sound more like welfare stuff (which exists)
13:07.28znfI was having a discussion in another channel (romanian), that most employers (the big ones, anyway, who can deal with the bureaucracy), almost always offer extra as "meal tickets"
13:07.55Gnarfozis food particularly expensive in .ro?
13:08.00Megalonweird
13:08.17znfso for example you have a cash salary (net, in hand) of 2500 lei, but the employer also offers you 300 lei extra in "meal tickets" (recently they actually made "meal cards", from what I know)
13:08.33znfthe deal for the company is that those 300 lei are not taxed as a salary
13:08.35Gnarfoz(also, chosi,  elvador, sb. we are EVERYWHERE)
13:10.19znfthat's what I think about it, too, seems like a low-end deal for everyone involved (except the company, obviously)
13:10.34znfand it's quite common for salaries up to 2500€/mo
13:10.54znfand no, food is not that expensive, it's comparable to rest of EU prices
13:11.04znfnot cheaper, same level basically
13:11.13TorhalGnarfoz: Trela isn't in Germany.
13:11.31Gnarfozprobably someone with a similar name, then
13:11.40Gnarfozalso, who says so? maybe we annexed his place.
13:11.54TorhalTrela lives in my neighborhood. :P
13:12.12Megalonyou mean inside your beard
13:12.14Bluspacecow_is Trela a cat ?
13:12.20nevcairielwe should really start annexing again, its been too long
13:12.21Bluspacecow_inside Torhal's beard
13:12.23Gnarfozyou might be closer to Germany than you think, then!
13:12.39Bluspacecow_the cat
13:12.41Bluspacecow_inside
13:12.46znfhttp://www.lidl.ro/ro/Oferte-513.htm?action=showDetail&id=76709
13:12.47znfvs
13:12.47Bluspacecow_Torhal's beard
13:12.49znfhttp://www.lidl.ro/ro/Oferte-513.htm?action=showDetail&id=76709
13:12.52Bluspacecow_is called CatBeard
13:12.52znfcouldn't find a food related item
13:12.57Bluspacecow_BeardCat
13:13.01TorhalOkay, I'm going to leave the psychosis that is this channel to finish my show and go to bed.
13:13.13Bluspacecow_:(
13:13.16Bluspacecow_wat show
13:13.20znf...it's actually more expensive in romania, great...
13:13.22Gnarfozthere's a fine line between therapy and making it worse
13:13.23Megalonthe show about that cat that lives inside a beard?
13:13.25Bluspacecow_tellmetellmetellmetellmetellmetellmetellmetellmetellmetellmetellmetellmetellmetellmetellme
13:14.38znferm, I meant https://www.lidl.de/de/meradiso-teppich-60-x-100-cm/p252961
13:16.51Gnarfoz>wowalert us
13:16.51Catal1nawowalert [--eu] [--us]
13:16.55Gnarfoz>wowalert --us
13:16.57Catal1naUS: We will be performing scheduled maintenance beginning on Tuesday, September 12th, 7:00 AM (PDT) and we expect the service to be available again at approximately 9:30 AM (PDT). During this time the game will be unavailable for play.
13:17.13Gnarfoz>wowalert --eu
13:17.14Catal1naEU: Scheduled maintenance will be on Wednesday, 13th September from 03:00 (CEST) until 06:00 (CEST). During this time, the game will be unavailable for play.
13:18.23Gnarfoz~wowalert
13:18.23purlhttp://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: Returns empty content unless there is an active alert]
13:18.38Gnarfozis that the same URL the launcher users?
13:18.43Gnarfozor the one for the login screen inside wow
13:19.29znflogin screen
13:19.34znfthe launcher uses some json stuff
13:19.39znfwas too lazy to MITM it
13:20.53quiescensreported
13:21.03MegalonMITMs quiescens
13:21.09quiescens):
13:36.11Bluspacecow_last time I checked game does connect to launcher.worldofwarcract.com so assume yes
13:36.20Bluspacecow_at login that is
13:37.14Bluspacecow_*cookers a cookie and gives it to quiescens*
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13:53.45pompy1I guess maint already happened... there's no shutdown message if they said 7am pdt which is in 7 minutes
13:55.13TrelaBluspacecow_: MEOW.
13:55.17nevcairielit may start a few minutes late =p
14:02.08PhixionI get meal coupons znf
14:02.33znfaren't you in US?
14:02.35Phixionthey work in participating restaurants and the major supermarkets
14:02.41PhixionMunich
14:02.46znfoh, I see
14:02.47znfWhy?
14:02.51Phixionbeer
14:03.03znf...aren't they supposed to be used only for, well, you know, actual food?
14:03.27znfcan you disclose the value?
14:04.59PhixionI think you if reach a certain number of employees you have to either provide a cantina or alternatives
14:05.40znfah, interesting
14:05.47nevcairieli always think people using food stamps at the supermarket are people living on welfare :p
14:06.23znfthey fuck up my queue :P takes almost 1 minute to process the payment of someone using those
14:06.47Phixioniircsupermarkets are not allowed to accept more than one per purchase and are not required to give you change
14:06.54Phixionmost of them give change and give a fuck
14:07.03znfsame here
14:07.08Phixionyou could technically run into tax issues
14:07.14znfthey're not supposed to allow the purchase of anything else other than food
14:07.26znfthat's not to say that people don't buy alcohol and other non-food stuff with them
14:07.45znfbut we don't have that limit of 1 per purchase
14:07.56znfyou can pay the whole bill in them
14:08.53Phixionit really depends for me, some just accept when I pull out like 5 of them and buy random shit, others dont
14:09.02Phixioneven within the same supermarket chain
14:09.05Phixionits really weird
14:12.09Phixionhttps://www.sodexo-benefits.de/firmen/restaurant-pass (german)
14:12.43znfseems to be more trouble than worth it
14:12.51znfyeah, I actually think we have that company here, too
14:13.00znfI remember seeing that lame attempt at a star logo around
14:14.38Phixionmy previous employer had similar coupons but from a diff company, cant remember the name tho
14:15.16znfyeah, we have a few of them here, too
14:15.31znfCheque Dejeuner, for example
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15:01.43winkznf: the bigegr the company, the more likely you have a cantina where prices are "lower than in a restaurant" - also often some stuff for workers in factories, or electricians, construction workers, etc. but in office job, mostly cantina or nothing
15:01.59winkI've always worked for small companies so I never had that
15:02.27winkwith a few exceptions for a few month where I was in customers' offices, but then the cantina was jsut "close" and "not expensive" but not subsidized for external folks
15:02.59winkfor example where my wife works, there used to be meal tickets. but they stopped doing that a long time ago and it was like 1 eur per day.
15:03.21winkthey couldn't take it away from the old coworkers, so those who started like in the 80s-90s still get them
15:03.56winkall in all in Germany, in an IT job you should probably ignore most benefits and just look amount of vacation and the gross sum in the end of the year :P
15:04.33winkrarely you get a 13th salary or other snenanigans. as I said, the bigger zthe company the weirder the stuff. for small companies I only know: 1 yearly figure that needs to be ok :P
15:04.56znfnot looking to work in .de
15:05.02znfjust comparing the market :)
15:07.09winkyeah. but nobody will tell you how much they offer
15:07.18winkand people working here won't tell you how much they make
15:07.20winkso good luck :)
15:07.30winkalso, I was just trying to convey my limited experience
15:07.43winkI've been working since '99 - but not in many companies :)
15:08.22winktechnically even earlier, but parents' company doesn't really count. even the laws are different :P
15:08.57winkchild labor is np in Germany if your boss is a parent ;)
15:11.53znfthe tabuu thing about discussing salaries is so crap in IT
15:12.33nevcairielits not only in IT, people just dont like to talk about it because it can induce jealousy
15:13.12znfhave you noticed that Welders know exactly how much a position offers before they apply to it?
15:13.38znf(also, some of those guys earn so fucking much, jesus)
15:13.52nevcairieli dont know any =p
15:14.44znfa good, skilled welder in different techniques can make up to $100/hr :-|
15:15.08nevcairielthats nothing for highly skilled IT contractors =p
15:15.29nevcairielhow much we paid those CMS guys to come in and setup our system, jeez
15:15.30winkwelding is hard
15:15.37znfyup, it is indeed
15:15.52winkfor IT it's just soothing the pain
15:15.54quiescenswelding is arguably a relatively finite set of jobs
15:16.08winkhttps://giphy.com/gifs/94EQmVHkveNck
15:16.11quiescensit is an industry and has a wide range of pay o.o
15:16.23quiescensIT*
15:18.40winknevcairiel: it's not only jealousy though
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16:03.58Phixionhttp://geon.github.io/programming/2016/03/03/dsxyliea heh
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17:59.21quiescensmoo
18:03.33ls-moo ):3
18:06.25quiescensgives ls- a cookie
18:07.17ls-noms it with milk
18:07.34znfhttps://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/17TwfFzy/20170912_210150_HDR.jpg
18:07.45znfThis guy just hit my car with his door
18:07.57znfFor reference this is my wide-opened door
18:11.16znfOh great. Chipped my paint.
18:16.47quiescenshow are you involved in so many.. incidents o.o
18:20.50znfNot exactly my fault...
18:22.21nebulai mean, you seem to be sure who it is so confront him?
18:23.47znfI was in the car with my window down when he parked... Can't exactly NOT be sure...
18:26.06znfNow my fucking car won't start due to different issue and I'm already getting pissed
18:31.50nebulai just hate people that don't give a shit about damage like that, i had a lady leave a full on dent in my door and just shrugged and walked away, then went into full on bitch mode after i said she was turning this into a hit and run
18:36.29ls-new iphone x isn't gonna be that popular in Asia, esp among women here, we tend to wear masks quite a lot, fingerprint scanning is waaaaay more favourable that iris and face scanning >_>
18:37.23nebulai'll be said if the 8 and X actually remove touch id
18:37.26nebulasad* even
18:38.13ls-8 still has it, but X doesn't...
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18:40.05ls-I bet they'll bring it back w/ next X model, XS or whatever, dunno, they could've put it inside their logo on the back...
18:40.22ls-but fingerprint scanner is practically a must-have feature in Asia
18:40.40ls-and Asia is a huge market for Apple, China in particular
18:42.20nebulaoh, they had that press event today, didn't they?
18:44.51ls-yeah, iphone part has just finished
18:58.54znfiPhone XS will never be made
18:59.04znfI mean, it's never going to be called like that
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19:01.48nebulayou forget apple has courage
19:21.14Bluspacecowcourage the wonder dog ?
19:23.42nebulano, courage the cowardly dog
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19:45.16ls-znf: true, it's gonna be XD
19:45.24ls-iPhone XD
19:47.38EthanCentaurai>busu
19:47.39Catal1naweather [--current|--forecast|--all] [US zip code | US/Canada city, state | Foreign city, country]
19:47.49EthanCentaurai¬_¬
19:48.01EthanCentaurai>busu --all Leeds, UK
19:48.02Catal1naWeather for Leeds, United Kingdom | Temperature: 15°C; Humidity: 67%; Conditions: Partly cloudy; Wind: Ssw, 32kph; Updated: 28 mins, 2 secs ago | Forecast for Tuesday: Rain; High of 16°C; Low of 11°C | Forecast for Wednesday: Partly cloudy; High of 15°C; Low of 7°C | Forecast for Thursday: Overcast; High of 16°C; Low of 6°C
20:00.43Bluspacecow>busu --all Cambridge, NZ
20:00.45Catal1naWeather for Cambridge, New Zealand | Temperature: 11°C; Humidity: 76%; Conditions: Unknown; Wind: Wsw, 19kph; Updated: 2 hrs, 0 mins, 43 secs ago | Forecast for Wednesday: Partly cloudy; High of 17°C; Low of 12°C | Forecast for Thursday: Mostly cloudy; High of 19°C; Low of 12°C | Forecast for Friday: Partly cloudy; High of 17°C; Low of 13°C
20:26.43znf>hostmask
20:26.44Catal1naznf!~ibm86@toaster.linge-ma.ws
20:26.53znf>help hostmask add
20:26.55Catal1na(hostmask add [<name>] [<hostmask>] [<password>]) -- Adds the hostmask <hostmask> to the user specified by <name>. The <password> may only be required if the user is not recognized by hostmask. <password> is also not required if an owner user is giving the command on behalf of some other user. If <hostmask> is not given, it defaults to your current hostmask. If <name> is not given, it defaults to your (1 more message)
20:27.43znf>hostmask add EthanCentaurai *!EthanCent@*.as9105.com
20:27.43Catal1naError: That operation cannot be done in a channel.
20:27.45znfoh
20:27.48znfok, silly bot
20:28.08znfthere
20:29.50znfusername EthanCentaurai
20:29.56znferm
20:29.58znf>username EthanCentaurai
20:29.59Catal1naError: I don't know who that is.
20:30.07znfscratches head
20:34.08EthanCentaurai>whoami
20:34.08Catal1naEthanCentaurai
20:34.17EthanCentaurai>hostmask
20:34.18Catal1naEthanCentaurai!~EthanCent@79-76-214-227.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com
20:34.37EthanCentauraidid i break all the things again
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20:57.01znfyeah, I fixed your hostmask
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