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00:34.19znfpokes Kemayo
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00:51.45Stanzillaznf: here https://i.imgur.com/mDgUO7H.jpg
00:52.20znfthe last ability? already found it, thanks
00:52.27Stanzillayes
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02:25.59znfStanzilla, https://i.imgur.com/xYkODv5.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/xYkODv5.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/xYkODv5.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/xYkODv5.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/xYkODv5.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/xYkODv5.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/xYkODv5.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/xYkODv5.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/xYkODv5.png
02:26.00znferm
02:26.00znfhttps://i.imgur.com/xYkODv5.png
02:27.31Stanzillasadly crap now
02:27.59znfoh? :(
02:28.45znfbut why? :(
02:28.55Stanzillagot nerfed
02:29.31Stanzillamight still be better than shoulders or trinket for you
02:29.35Stanzillasim it
02:36.11Fiskerhey Stanzilla
02:40.40Stanzillahi
02:49.49FiskerI hope we get RS3 soon
02:49.58FiskerI need to update my work pc
02:50.41FiskerHow much in advance do they usually put it up? like '3 weeks?
02:59.04Stanzillasomething like that yeah
03:02.51Fisker"Tell us why you closed apps using the task manager"
03:02.57FiskerIt's a manager... for tasks
03:03.27StanzillaI hate that shit in Windows so much
03:08.16znfheh
03:08.43znf"app was shit, needed to kill it" poof
03:09.37Stanzillamost UWP apps just close randomly anyway
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03:33.36znfI be getting' upvotes! https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/6yjgcs/argus_in_a_nutshell/
03:34.20Bluspacecow>_>
03:34.26Bluspacecow*upvotes*
03:34.29Bluspacecow<_<
03:34.33Bluspacecow*sneaks out*
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03:35.41Bluspacecow*noms it*
03:38.13znfthe karma is coming!
03:38.25znfah, made it to wow's FP
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03:40.25Fiskerhi Bluspacecow
03:53.54Bluspacecowhigh!
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08:08.07nevcairielyou must be playing the game wrong znf, i dont have any issues with that
08:10.15nevcairielbut i dont lug around a permanent body guard because they suck =p
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09:10.08znfMeatball doesn't suck. Meatball is awesome.
09:24.48Phixionhey Fisker
09:27.04Fiskerhey Phixion
09:40.26nevcairielznf: if by awesome y ou mean keeping you in combat all the time, sure!
09:42.25quiescensmaybe znf likes combat
09:59.11Bluspacecow@znf who is Meatball ?
09:59.17Bluspacecowznf likes combat with meatballs
09:59.26Bluspacecowis he italian ?
10:00.37winkwasn't that the epic follower from WoD?
10:00.55winkhttp://www.wowhead.com/champion=986/meatball
10:00.58winknope. Legion
10:01.45winkok, both. https://eu.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/12989930713
10:01.47winkI was kinda right
10:02.46Bluspacecowwould still like to know if znf is italian
10:03.03Megalonznf is gypsy
10:03.15winkwow, again a new armory?
10:03.21Bluspacecow?
10:03.22winkand it doesn't show when I last logged in...
10:03.33Bluspacecowlink
10:04.20Bluspacecowwarcraft logs should have when you last logged out
10:04.29Bluspacecowunless the APIs bugged out
10:04.31Bluspacecowit does that sometimes
10:04.48BluspacecowU_-
10:04.56winkhttps://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/chamber-of-aspects/malthax
10:04.57winknew to me
10:05.00winkthe layout
10:05.06Bluspacecowthats been new for months
10:05.09nevcairielwe've had that for months now
10:05.15winkmy links still point to... https://eu.battle.net/wow/character/chamber-of-aspects/Malthax/advanced
10:05.25nevcairieland "again"? when did they replace it last before that? its been years and years
10:05.26Bluspacecowhave you been away too long LOL ?
10:05.29winkwell,. why would I say "doesnt even show ehen I last played"
10:05.33winkif I knew...
10:05.37winkI left in Legion
10:05.42winkbut before mounts
10:05.46winkmaybe April? March?
10:06.01Bluspacecowyour link redirects to the new one finally
10:06.02BluspacecowLOL
10:06.05Bluspacecowalso warcraft logs
10:06.06nevcairielbut yeah the new armory severly lacks some of the features it had before
10:06.09nevcairielwhich is really terrible
10:06.23nevcairieli really liked using it to look at calendar events for raid signups etc
10:06.39nevcairielnow its just a waste of space and really hard to navigate
10:07.10Bluspacecowhttps://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/eu/chamber-of-aspects/malthax
10:07.59nevcairielit must be bugged though, last events 5 months ago, last logout 9? :p
10:08.08nevcairielyour char been playing itself!
10:08.20quiescensgasp
10:08.25quiescensreport him
10:08.46Bluspacecowyeah bugged see
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10:10.36BluspacecowIts bugged on the JSON output see - "lastModified": 1480534957000 .... then further down .... first event in feed .... "timestamp": 1490820286000
10:11.06quiescensgives blu a cookie
10:11.48Bluspacecowso if it's bugged on the Character Profile API "Feed" Endpoint it'll be bugged on warcraft logs
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12:40.13znfnevcairiel, my annoyance with the in combat stuff is not about the random "you are in combat" while you have nothing around, that seems less of an issue on Argus, for some reasons
12:40.44znfI'm just annoyed that it's so highly dense/packed that there are no paths in some areas that you don't aggro a mob when mounted
12:41.07znfand the casters have a range that can apparently reach you to azeroth and they don't drop aggro until you are on the other side of the map
12:41.42znfalso, Meatball is king. With his 20% insta-kill and his +% damage buff that stacks to 50%, I'm not sure why anyone would not have him as a follower :P
12:42.51nevcairielits the f'ing enemy stronghold, they dont make safe zones for us unless we liberate them :P
12:45.04znfthe lack of safe-roads is annoying tough
12:45.09znfregardless of the lore
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12:55.05badboyHello. Does anyone know how can I add textures to Shadowed Unit Frames using ace
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15:14.11FiskerI want my Pixel 2 Stanzilla
15:20.37znfif I knew today was Lightweave Cloth supplies quest, I would have saved it :P
15:22.30znfgoing for 110g/ea today on my server
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15:47.30winkhttp://www.pcgamer.com/these-players-loved-their-wow-servers-so-much-they-bought-the-old-hardware/
15:47.36winkwow.
15:47.45znfold?
15:47.52winkIf I'd ever get hold of the original EU-Aggramar hardware I'd smash it to pieces.
15:47.59znfheh
15:48.02winkit was a launch server and laggy as hell
15:48.38winktoo bad the article doesn't tell any numbers, I would have loved how much the auctions were going for
15:48.45winkthat said, I do have a piece of memorabilia
15:49.08winkit's a 33.6 modem from the 90s. It was one of the remote ends for a local online service.
15:49.12winkbut I got it for free :P
15:49.35winkhas a nice sticker on it. now it's in a box somewhere. wouldn't have bought it even for 20 bucks back then...
15:49.43znfI saw yesterday an auction/ad for V56 modems
15:49.44znf2 of them
15:49.51znf...someone bought 1
15:49.54znfI wonder, why?
15:51.00Stanzillaspent 20k on ore today
15:51.03Stanzillagot 2 gems from it
15:51.12Stanzillanot quite worth
15:52.34znf20k on ore?
15:52.41znfso that was, what? half a stack?
15:53.47Stanzilla100 ore
15:59.41znfoh, I totally forgot that Darkmoon gives you +10% rep
16:00.13znfnot like I would have survived enough to make full use of it
16:22.09FiskerHey Stanzilla
16:28.24Stanzillahttps://twitter.com/Bdwyz/status/902270170579730432/video/1
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16:32.27Bluspacecowdo they have moobs ?
16:33.01Bluspacecowfor some reason I heard Single Ladies while watching that
16:36.46znflol
16:37.24znffeels incomplete tough :(
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16:50.38Stanzillaye
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17:12.39znfGnarfoz, help me understand something
17:12.53znfGnarfoz, on linux servers, do you germans configure the keyboard to german-mode?
17:13.06Gnarfozas if that's something 80 million people do the same way
17:13.41znfyour organization
17:14.06GnarfozI SSH in, I don't care what the local terminal layout is
17:14.18Gnarfoz(some are german, some are US)
17:14.23znfwhen you install a new server, do you german or us?
17:14.45GnarfozI clone a new vm from the template, if I made the template, then it's probably US :p
17:14.49Megalonmost do suaheli and work from there
17:15.13znfI don't know of anyone who sets up a romanian keyboard here, for example
17:15.24Gnarfozso because you don't know anyone, nobody like that exists
17:15.26znfat most, Windows users do Romanian (Programmers)
17:15.35znfRomanian keyboards are actually rare :P
17:15.40Gnarfozwho cares?
17:15.44Gnarfozwhat the hell is the question
17:15.47Megalonbecause they get stolen all the time, right???
17:15.50Megalon8)
17:15.53Gnarfozwhy do you think the keyboard layout options in OS installers exist?
17:16.03Gnarfozbecause nobody uses them?
17:16.13znfI'm wondering why Ubuntu insists on pre-selecting the Romanian keyboard upon install, while Debian pre-selects US English
17:16.24Gnarfozbecause that's what they picked based on... your location, if they know it
17:16.49znfthey both know my location... because I do select Romania
17:17.20znfDebian also does another nice thing, puts US English at the top of the list
17:17.22Gnarfozso... look at the source? clearly, Debian being one of the most conservative distros, they might have different priorities than Ubuntu?
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17:43.02winkmaybe Ubuntu just shares that part of the code between desktop and server
17:43.20winkfrom my experience, every sane org in Germany uses us layout for servers.
17:43.31winkthe other ones might use de_DE
17:48.25znfThey don't even sell laptops with RO layout keyboards here
17:48.36znfand actual keyboards with that layout are very rare in stores
17:49.04Gnarfozthat's immensile beside the point for your original question
17:49.19znftough I noticed that a lot of KVM viewers on our servers have an option for german layout
17:49.31znfwhich is weird, it's not like they have it for all languages, just german or us english
17:49.48Gnarfozprobably Fujitsu because they were Fujitsu-Siemens for a while
17:50.04znfactually Intel ones, if I remember corectly
17:50.26winkde - us intl isn't too far off
17:50.37winkhardly anyone in big companies has us_intl keyboards afaik
17:50.44znfbut someone told me he saw similar-looking servers like the Intel ones I have (blades/chasis) that were made by Fujitsu
17:50.44Gnarfozyeah, both are terrible
17:50.52winkI <3 us_intl
17:50.59znfI dislike us_intl :P
17:51.05GnarfozI prefer my custom US one
17:51.22winkhow custom?
17:51.33winkor.. "custom? how?" :D
17:52.30znfGnarfoz is a keyboard nazi anyway
17:54.19winkI mean, mine's also not us Intl. but it's 100% compatible. it just a lot more
17:54.31winkI so want to have it on Windows as well
17:54.39winkbut I still have my 8y old G11
17:54.47winkand it just won't break
17:55.00Gnarfozhow's that related
17:58.16winka) remapping on windows is a lot harder than on linux (imho)
17:58.25winkb) using us intl on a german keyboard is not fun
17:58.42winkmine is German, so I'm sticking to using 2 layouts, depending on which computer I use
17:58.56winkit works well enough if your muscle memory adapts to different hardware :P
17:59.04winkwhenever I touch a thinkpad with DE layout, I am lost. 100%
17:59.28znfwe just use English keyboards (qwerty), people who actually write for a living have gotten used to the Programmers layout which is basically en_US but if you use alt+gr you get âășțî
17:59.33winkso yey, maybe I could redo my layout on windows, but not worth the hassle
18:00.01winkI use caps aou for äöü etc.
18:00.37Gnarfozremapping on Windows is hard? how
18:00.45Gnarfozjust use MSKLC and create what you want
18:01.14winkit's not a config file with comments I can use and edit
18:01.20winktechnically you only do it once, yes
18:01.24winkKeyTweak works as well
18:01.32Gnarfozkeytweak? sounds dumb
18:01.40Gnarfozmsklc creates a real keyboard layout you can use
18:01.48winkancient little tool that just works
18:01.51Gnarfoznot sure if the layout file is human-readable
18:02.01winkok, it's not hard, it's a bit annoying
18:04.23znfspeaking of
18:04.28znfhow the hell do I get Romanian Programmers on macOS
18:04.58Gnarfozwink: I don't have a keyboard-layout-creator.com I can show, and the MSKLC preview is a bit rudimentary ;p
18:05.24Gnarfozbasically US (non-intl) plus some stuff that uses right alt as a modifier (namely, äöüß and various deadkeys)
18:05.41Gnarfozunless I use right alt, it's just US
18:05.52znfhttps://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2017/09/06/national/miyazaki-officials-bring-tick-press-conference-warn-disease-spread-gets-away/#.WbGKfFVSKUk
18:05.56znfthis is how we clean up the human species
18:05.58Gnarfozwhy is US intl annoying on ISO keyboards? they have more keys, not less :D
18:11.28znfmy post on reddit is still at the top
18:11.31znf3200 points, wtf?
18:11.37znfnext post is 1035 points
18:16.07Megalonis it in /r/romanianscomplainingaboutrandomshit ?
18:17.25znfit's in /r/wow
18:17.31znfor /r/megalonisadick
18:17.46winkGnarfoz: ah ok, enough info thanks :P
18:18.14winkGnarfoz: so you've encouraged the alt-right in the US layout before it was cool?
18:18.19Gnarfozyep
18:18.19winkshows himself out
18:18.25Gnarfozmy beard is very wide
18:18.49winkI'd really love a mechanical keyboard though
18:18.59Gnarfozbuy one!
18:19.01Gnarfozbuild one!
18:19.06winkmaybe I should just hook up my spare choc mini :D
18:19.15winkI have 2. one mini and one midi
18:19.16Gnarfoztake one of mine!;p
18:19.22winkI've resisted to buy more.. as of now
18:19.37winkthat Logitech with the orange keys was a close call
18:19.51GnarfozI foresee a XD75RE in my future
18:21.33winknot my kinda style
18:21.37GnarfozI love my Planck
18:21.45Gnarfozbut it's a bit small for gaming
18:21.57Gnarfoz(also, no numpad)
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18:22.57winkI don't use the numpad anyway
18:23.11winkonly to input TANs for online banking, really
18:23.25winknever had to input digits while programming
18:23.30winkas in.. more than 5
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18:41.10GnarfozI find it way more comfortable since all keys are reachable
18:41.14Gnarfozwithout moving
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19:00.15znfGnarfoz, AMR client is weird on threads
19:00.38znfhttps://i.imgur.com/ZDgZtwE.png
19:04.48Gnarfozit's not like we talked about this at length
19:05.26Gnarfozalso, what did you set it to
19:05.33Gnarfozthat looks like a 2 cpu machine
19:05.45Gnarfoz2 logical core, that is
19:06.10znfyes, 2 cores
19:07.00Gnarfozhttp://i.imgur.com/nYfePFL.png
19:07.28znfI don't want to run multiple workers, seems counter-intuitive :-/
19:07.49Gnarfozfuck your stupid waNTS
19:07.53Gnarfozthat's how it is
19:08.44Gnarfozyour picture doesn't look related to that issue, though
19:08.51Gnarfozor your lack of explanation
19:08.52Gnarfozeither
19:08.55znfR/S
19:08.59znfrunning, suspended
19:10.05Gnarfozmy question remains unanswered
19:10.09Gnarfozwhat did you set it to
19:10.20znf4 threads, on 2 cores
19:10.45znf(my kit was already set to 4 threads, because I used to run 4 core machines)
19:13.43znfhttps://i.imgur.com/xbCDyNb.png
19:13.44znfmeh
19:14.52GnarfozI have no idea what you're complaining about tbh
19:15.11Gnarfozyou have 2 cores, only 2 processes can be R at the same time
19:16.15znfwhat are you running 2 clients with? how many threads per client?
19:33.51Gnarfozon AWS? 2 5-thread clients on 1 8-core instance
19:48.17Gnarfozthe problem is that the client's threads will do no work while they turn in completed chunks and fetch new ones
19:48.26Gnarfozand that they don't scale well above 8 threads
20:12.05Gnarfoz(in case you didn't figure that out: the rest of the threads are just junk stuff, not the ones doing the processing)
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20:56.18znfgeez, I actually sold LIghtweave Cloth at 6400g per 20 pieces
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22:59.43Stanzillaznf: where was that argus handynotes thing from you linked the other day
23:01.44znfwant my copy of Kemayo's addon?
23:01.51znfit probably has more data-points at this time
23:02.08znfthe only thing I'm missing is 3 quests for rares
23:02.31Stanzilladoes it also list the important drops in the tooltips of the rares?
23:02.42znfmounts, pets, toys, yes
23:02.43Stanzillaand has different icons for rares with mounts etc?
23:02.48znfno
23:03.21znfbut afaik you can filter by mount/pet/item
23:04.10znfthe other one I first used was this https://mods.curse.com/addons/wow/276879-handynotes_argus#t1:changes
23:04.42Stanzillathat's what twitch addon overwrote the one I had with
23:04.59znfisn't the same?
23:05.20znf>url last --with mmo-champion --no-limit
23:05.20Catal1naurl last [<channel>] [--{from,with,without,near,proto} <value>] [--nolimit]
23:05.22znf>url last --with mmo-champion --nolimit
23:05.24Catal1na<http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/1062218-wow-tokens-removed/>, <http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/2203333>
23:05.34StanzillaI havent tested how it looks after a client restart so I only know the green textures everywhere version :D
23:06.18Stanzillaoh and like the comments say, teh blue skulls were  missing
23:06.35znffirst version was working for me, when I linked it that day (had blue skulls)
23:06.36Stanzillayeah he removed that
23:06.37Stanzillameh
23:09.28znfGnarfoz, is there a specific naming scheme for iscsi targets?
23:09.38znfhave you used iscsi?
23:11.38Gnarfozno
23:12.05Gnarfozbut does it vary much from other storage stuff that is interpreted as scsi?
23:12.09znffound info
23:12.10Gnarfozlike FC
23:12.12znfI was confused about the naming
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23:12.17znfiqn.yyyy-mm.naming-authority:unique
23:12.58znfI wanted to play around with iscsi
23:13.06znfbut I just realized I have no idea how to boot it
23:25.20Gnarfozbooting sounds like an advanced step
23:28.41znfindeed it does
23:28.44znfgPXE does it
23:29.00znfbut then you'd have to burn that into yoru nic's rom
23:35.34znfbut I'm assuming that you should be able to chain-boot something from tftp

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