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| 06:27.31 | mitch0 | hrmp. ended up on a k-lined IP for a while... CGNAT will be awesum |
| 06:28.25 | quiescens | o.o |
| 06:28.54 | quiescens | nev says they k-lined 3/4 of the channel |
| 06:29.11 | quiescens | possibly 3/4 of the server, who ever knows |
| 06:29.34 | mitch0 | heh |
| 06:30.05 | mitch0 | probably some spam detection bot went funny |
| 06:30.29 | quiescens | i figured someone misplaced a * or pressed enter too quickly |
| 06:30.39 | mitch0 | or that, yeah |
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| 07:10.40 | znf | mitch0: why is your ISP poor? |
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| 07:15.30 | mitch0 | znf: it's Digi, romanians are poor by definition, right? :P |
| 07:16.03 | mitch0 | aaanyway, what do you guys use for the order hall thingy (those that disable the blizz order hall bar) |
| 07:16.10 | znf | Huh? |
| 07:16.15 | mitch0 | damn |
| 07:16.46 | mitch0 | I have no idea what I'm talking about, but hoped it made sense ;) trying to help a user with issues with this order hall bar thingy whatever it is... |
| 07:16.52 | znf | Wait, Digi (RDS România) is doing internet stuff there? |
| 07:17.00 | mitch0 | yep |
| 07:17.03 | mitch0 | and soon mobile, too |
| 07:17.06 | mitch0 | afaik |
| 07:17.17 | znf | Cool. But they don't do cgnat |
| 07:17.21 | znf | They're it that poor |
| 07:17.22 | mitch0 | znf: one of the best providers to be honest ;) |
| 07:17.24 | znf | Not |
| 07:17.50 | znf | They're dual-stack pppoe |
| 07:17.55 | mitch0 | they have some ipv6 thingy, but they're doing it wrong... |
| 07:17.59 | znf | Are they doing another tech there? |
| 07:18.02 | mitch0 | they only give /64 |
| 07:18.38 | mitch0 | they also do CGNAT for those that don't care |
| 07:18.59 | mitch0 | but if you write a mail to them that you want your routable public ipv4 back, they put you back in the normal pools |
| 07:21.05 | mitch0 | and my caller-id display is somehow borked (it always displays 0606060606 for incoming calls) but I really don't use the landline at all, so I didn't bother to get it fixed |
| 07:21.25 | znf | I'm pretty sure the RFC recommendation is a /64 for home users |
| 07:23.16 | znf | you made me check now if I am under a cgnat :P |
| 07:23.27 | mitch0 | ;) |
| 07:23.37 | znf | but no, not that poor to do cgnat! |
| 07:23.37 | mitch0 | isn't /56 the recommendation? |
| 07:24.21 | mitch0 | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:24.40 | mitch0 | I haven't really played with it so far, but I read some complaints on various tech forums |
| 07:26.01 | nevcairiel | home users dont get to subnet =p |
| 07:26.13 | mitch0 | yeah, right... |
| 07:26.17 | znf | I'm not even sure why the fuck someone would need /that/ many |
| 07:26.37 | znf | it's still, like, what? 256 networks? |
| 07:26.47 | nevcairiel | mitch0: see it that way, you had 1 ipv4 before, so suck it up |
| 07:28.04 | mitch0 | yeah, but the main point of ipv6 would be to get rid of nat |
| 07:28.12 | nevcairiel | and we're talking about home users here |
| 07:28.13 | mitch0 | which I can't do with a /64 site assignment |
| 07:28.21 | nevcairiel | 99.99% of those cant even spell subnet |
| 07:28.26 | mitch0 | ;) |
| 07:28.40 | mitch0 | still, it wouldn't cost the isp a dime to assign /56 instead |
| 07:28.46 | znf | oh right, stupid-rfc says that you should not segment a /64 |
| 07:28.50 | nevcairiel | and if you have special requirements for whatever crazy special home usecase, you can pick an ISP that gives you more |
| 07:28.55 | nevcairiel | fwiw i get a 56 =p |
| 07:29.01 | znf | you can ask them for more, btw |
| 07:29.10 | znf | I don't even have the ipv6 stack enabled |
| 07:29.23 | nevcairiel | neither do I, it breaks all sorts of random shit still |
| 07:29.35 | znf | my router simply can't do PPPoEv6 properly |
| 07:29.50 | quiescens | nerf znf |
| 07:29.54 | mitch0 | yeah, and my microtic router also randomly breaks. although it's due to a short or contact error inside ;) |
| 07:29.54 | nevcairiel | my router is fine, but so many apps or services seem to randomly bug out when v6 is on |
| 07:30.20 | znf | I flashed LEDE on my router, but I happened to land on a buggy pppoe release, so I reverted :D |
| 07:30.28 | quiescens | also some sites themselves are badly configured even if everything on your side works |
| 07:30.40 | znf | also, hardware nat is still badly supported on 3rd party firmware |
| 07:30.45 | znf | bad or not at all |
| 07:31.44 | znf | you will not take hardware nat away from me! |
| 07:31.48 | znf | mitch0, so what tech are they using there? |
| 07:32.06 | mitch0 | afaik dual stack pppoe here as well |
| 07:32.16 | znf | I ment physical |
| 07:32.18 | znf | meant |
| 07:32.23 | mitch0 | ah, fiber |
| 07:32.29 | znf | ftth? fttb? |
| 07:32.32 | mitch0 | FTTH for me (rural area) |
| 07:32.40 | znf | ah, so you have a gpon at home? |
| 07:32.41 | mitch0 | or rather, suburbs |
| 07:32.44 | mitch0 | yep |
| 07:32.49 | mitch0 | some zte crap |
| 07:33.05 | znf | oh, they're giving you the ZTEs and not the Kaon |
| 07:33.06 | znf | interesting |
| 07:33.19 | mitch0 | earlier they gave out huawei afaik |
| 07:33.29 | mitch0 | or the other way around, not sure ;) |
| 07:33.48 | znf | we have fttb in apartment buildings around here |
| 07:34.08 | znf | well, I'm on FTTB |
| 07:34.22 | znf | do they also offer gigabit there for uber-cheap? |
| 07:36.22 | mitch0 | yep |
| 07:36.33 | mitch0 | but I don't need gigabit. I'm on 100/50 |
| 07:36.42 | znf | pft, you cheap! |
| 07:36.51 | znf | so, how much is it there? |
| 07:36.52 | nevcairiel | noone needs gigabit |
| 07:37.05 | mitch0 | I upgraded from former monopoly provider that gave me 5/0.5 for more moneys than I pay now for 100/50 + TV... |
| 07:37.23 | znf | nobody needs gigabit until you have a taste of it :D |
| 07:37.34 | mitch0 | 15 EUR for 100/50 + TV + landline |
| 07:37.37 | nevcairiel | you should lookup the definition of "need" |
| 07:38.09 | znf | >xau 39 ron to eur |
| 07:38.13 | mitch0 | what I _may_ consider is upgrading to 100/100, but that's not strictly needed either... |
| 07:38.14 | znf | >xau 27.37 ron to eur |
| 07:38.32 | mitch0 | 5.97 |
| 07:38.40 | znf | I really need to fix that stupid VM that runs the bot |
| 07:38.43 | Catal1na | 39.00 ron = 8.49 eur |
| 07:38.44 | Catal1na | 27.37 ron = 5.96 eur |
| 07:38.51 | mitch0 | so, what do you get for 6? |
| 07:39.00 | znf | so I pay 8.49⬠for 1000/500 internet |
| 07:39.12 | znf | and 6⬠was my mobile bill last month |
| 07:39.23 | mitch0 | eh, nice... |
| 07:39.29 | nevcairiel | prices across countries cant really be compared, considering it depends on how poor your country is =p |
| 07:39.37 | mitch0 | :)) |
| 07:39.53 | mitch0 | and how much monopoly your country allows... |
| 07:40.05 | nevcairiel | i should move to romania, i would be the richest guy around |
| 07:40.24 | mitch0 | here the former national provider (now t-com) is keeping prices in the sky due to their friggin monopoly... |
| 07:40.27 | znf | make no mistake, rich people are rich |
| 07:40.43 | znf | it's just that poor people are poorer :P |
| 07:40.48 | nevcairiel | the point is that normal people are f'ing poor =p |
| 07:40.53 | znf | else you wouldn't see so many fucking luxury cars on the streets |
| 07:41.06 | nevcairiel | they're probably cheaper too |
| 07:41.15 | znf | I doubt that |
| 07:43.00 | znf | mitch0, I'm curious about the offer for mobile there |
| 07:43.09 | mitch0 | nah, there's a big gap (and growing gap) between "average" and "rich" both in romania and here in hungary, too |
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| 07:43.29 | znf | We have 5â¬/mo for "unlimited" calls, even towards some international destinations |
| 07:43.40 | znf | and includes 10GB of 3G data and 40GB of 4G data |
| 07:43.43 | mitch0 | kinda sad. especially so that I'm not in the "rich" crowd ;) |
| 07:44.07 | znf | the only fucking thing we pay is fucking texts :-| |
| 07:44.14 | znf | and some people insist on using them |
| 07:44.22 | mitch0 | znf: strange that they have different amount of 3G and 4G data... |
| 07:44.27 | znf | not really |
| 07:44.34 | znf | they have more spectrum in 4G frequencies |
| 07:44.45 | znf | ie: 2600 Mhz, Band 38 |
| 07:44.48 | mitch0 | yeah, but it's hard for the users to follow |
| 07:44.48 | nevcairiel | kinda really, so you move around and suddenly you're out of d ata |
| 07:44.57 | nevcairiel | you move back, data back! |
| 07:45.14 | znf | nevcairiel, they don't cut you off |
| 07:45.23 | znf | but they limit you to something like 256kbit after 40GB |
| 07:45.32 | nevcairiel | thats basically like being cut-off |
| 07:45.36 | nevcairiel | shit no work at that speed :p |
| 07:45.39 | znf | still enough for whatsapp :P |
| 07:45.40 | mitch0 | :) |
| 07:46.57 | znf | They have 5 Mhz of spectrum in Band 1 (2100Mhz), 60 Mhz (I think?) in Band 38 (2600Mhz), and their 3G is also on 2100 if I remember corectly, but they only have like 20Mhz there |
| 07:47.18 | znf | and in some areas they also have a 900Mhz 3G bands, not sure if in my area |
| 07:47.23 | mitch0 | nevcairiel: so, back to my question: what addon do you use to replace the Order Hall Command Bar (or whatever it is) ? |
| 07:47.30 | znf | we don't |
| 07:47.36 | znf | we just use your hide feature |
| 07:47.53 | mitch0 | but doesn't this order hall bar contain useful stuff? |
| 07:48.05 | nevcairiel | mitch0: i dont, i just turn it off |
| 07:48.05 | znf | number of followers, resources |
| 07:48.07 | znf | and that's it? |
| 07:48.13 | nevcairiel | and yeah its not very useful |
| 07:48.18 | mitch0 | eh, ok ;) |
| 07:48.40 | mitch0 | still, is there some LDB thing with that info? |
| 07:48.49 | mitch0 | ah, nevermind. I stopped caring |
| 07:48.58 | znf | yeah, there is |
| 07:49.03 | nevcairiel | broker_garrison might show this stuff |
| 07:49.05 | znf | also, OR are a currency |
| 07:49.10 | znf | so, who gives a fuck? |
| 07:49.13 | nevcairiel | but sb has vanished so not sure if it still works |
| 07:49.26 | znf | there, I enabled it: http://i.imgur.com/AmUjJLk.png |
| 07:50.18 | mitch0 | znf: I have no idea what I should be looking at ;) |
| 07:50.51 | mitch0 | oh, the bar below the top bar? |
| 07:50.57 | mitch0 | is that the order hall bar? |
| 07:51.05 | znf | yes |
| 07:51.12 | mitch0 | eh. |
| 07:51.26 | znf | exactly |
| 07:51.27 | znf | :D |
| 07:51.55 | znf | the only remotely useful information there are ORs |
| 07:52.03 | znf | but at this point in the expansion, I'm not sure who cares about them anymore |
| 07:52.13 | znf | I literally have 150k of them |
| 07:52.15 | znf | nothing to spend them on |
| 07:52.23 | quiescens | buy cookies |
| 07:52.41 | znf | I should be able to spend them on fucking reagents |
| 07:52.43 | znf | like bloods |
| 07:52.51 | quiescens | and cookies |
| 07:53.51 | nevcairiel | you can actually buy bloods with them |
| 07:54.31 | znf | with OR? |
| 07:54.34 | znf | where?! O.O |
| 07:55.59 | znf | holy fuck you're right |
| 07:56.23 | quiescens | o.o |
| 07:57.52 | znf | back to gigabit: everyone needs gigabit! |
| 07:58.53 | nevcairiel | not that I would complain if i could get it for cheap, however I don't see any "need" for it =p |
| 07:59.48 | znf | Downloading at 80MB/sec from, uhm, legit sources, is awesome |
| 08:01.26 | nevcairiel | not to mention that our infrastructure would probably break down if suddenly everyone had and actually used gigabit |
| 08:09.24 | znf | Stanzilla, didn't RoS increase SWD damage? O.o |
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| 08:16.23 | znf | yeah, I'm not falling for that again http://i.imgur.com/HN0c1TB.png |
| 08:16.25 | znf | >_< |
| 08:23.04 | nevcairiel | one of our priests did that, took quite some healing to get her through th at |
| 08:26.13 | znf | no achievement anyway :( |
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| 11:23.56 | znf | 13:23:13 <christel> [Global Notice] In light of the wave of spambots sending links to child pornography images, we have chosen to update our default umodes to include +R (blocking messages from unregistered users). To allow such messages, /mode yournick -R. Apologies for the disruption and the inconvenience. |
| 11:24.01 | znf | So I was right |
| 11:24.05 | znf | It was child porn |
| 11:24.10 | znf | Jesus christ... |
| 11:24.43 | quiescens | good thing you copied the link into a logged channel |
| 11:24.56 | Stanzilla | he did? |
| 11:26.47 | Stanzilla | that xhamster link was not that |
| 11:27.24 | znf | The xhamster thing was just a blog post |
| 11:28.32 | Stanzilla | yea about sense8 |
| 11:35.54 | quiescens | oic |
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| 12:23.36 | Fisker | false flags nice |
| 12:23.54 | Fisker | obviously mainstream pornsites host child pornography |
| 12:24.08 | quiescens | eh |
| 12:24.13 | quiescens | turns out the links being sent were imgur |
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| 12:39.14 | Stanzilla | thanks for investigating |
| 12:51.28 | quiescens | was just regarding fisker's comment its not like being a legit domain doesn't automatically mean something safe o.o |
| 12:57.33 | Stanzilla | true |
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| 16:19.46 | Stanzilla | Fisker: O R E O |
| 16:21.06 | Fisker | Yeah |
| 16:21.47 | quiescens | cookie? |
| 16:24.10 | Stanzilla | nop |
| 16:24.36 | quiescens | ): |
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| 18:03.02 | Fisker | Hey Stanzilla |
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| 18:25.58 | Stanzilla | hi |
| 18:27.00 | EthanCentaurai | hi |
| 18:28.03 | pompy | hi |
| 18:50.53 | Fisker | Hi |
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