IRC log for #wowace on 20170816

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00:11.51znfStanzilla, the fuck is this? http://i.imgur.com/ZnDJkIx.png
00:12.34Primera quest
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00:22.34znfooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo(o)h
00:32.49znfkthx
02:33.46Fiskerhey Stanzilla
02:40.56Fiskerlol
02:41.09Fiskermy Nexus 9 keeps thinking there's an update available I already installed
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09:45.49Gnarfozhttps://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/08/01/the-path-of-the-solar-eclipse-is-already-altering-real-world-behavior/ big data \o/
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10:31.01nevcairielyou would think this was the first solar ecplise in forever
10:31.26nevcairielbut it actually happens like every year
10:31.27winkdepends where you live
10:31.37winkbut didnt we have one last year?
10:31.45winklike, proper one.
10:31.47winkor was it '15?
10:32.20nevcairieli suppose its somewhat special because the center of the eclipse moves directly over america
10:32.51hastesolar eclipses have created chaos in the US many years before internet started hyping them afaik
10:33.00nevcairielin 15 we had one over europe, although the center didnt move over EU landmass
10:33.12nevcairielso no full darkness anywhere
10:35.22nevcairielthe last eclipse that hit the western world with full darkness was apparently in 1999 over europe
10:37.27Gnarfozclearly, the world == the US
10:55.00Gnarfoznevcairiel: any clue if FLV can contain ActionScript/"code"? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_Video seems to indicate "no"
10:56.52nevcairielit can
10:58.12Gnarfozso using something like http://www.moitah.net/ is a good idea before "watching" FLV from questionable sources? :D
11:00.43quiescenseh, even if it does its not like it will magically run actionscript if you try to play it in anything other than a flash thingy
11:00.49nevcairielunless you use actual flash, i dont think any player would do anything with it
11:01.01quiescenssee, nev and i agree ^^
11:01.16nevcairielnot sure how much you can even put into it
11:01.47GnarfozI think MPC-HC can also run SWF animations, so I think it's capable, at least?
11:02.04nevcairielit uses flash to do that
11:02.18nevcairielalthough that may have been removed
11:21.38Gnarfozffmpeg -i leak.flv -vcodec copy -acodec copy -bsf:v h264_mp4toannexb out.mkv
11:21.43Gnarfozbetter safe than sorry ^^
11:22.42Fiskerwatching game of thrones is a sin
11:23.07Fiskeralso if they can execute whatever in a flash video file wouldn't ffmpeg have to execute it anyway?
11:24.12quiescensthe video content is a standard video codec, not a series of flash instructions or anything
11:26.33Gnarfozffmpeg can't run SWF animations AFAIK
11:26.36Gnarfozbut MPC-HC could
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11:52.23Gnarfozhm, I guess that doesn't quite work, seems to need more parameters for the audio track ^^
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12:04.50Gnarfozweirdo audio
12:05.23Gnarfozvideo fps 30.303 ("original: 30.0") + audio fps 43.066 (1024 SPF)
12:05.26Gnarfozis that normal?
12:05.33nevcairielyou really shouldnt use that bsf when converting to mkv
12:05.50Gnarfozno? I guess. it works, though
12:06.13Gnarfozalso the audio worked the first time as well, I think the error I got was because I had no enabled audio devices
12:06.39nevcairielaudio fps is not a meaningful number anyway
12:06.40GnarfozI guess "SPF" stands for samples per frame here and thus I shouldn't care about the audio "frame rate"
12:06.56nevcairielsince frame size is not something you usually control
12:07.02nevcairieland its a continous stream anyway
12:07.10Gnarfozcurious, though
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12:07.18Gnarfozthe audio has higher pitch
12:07.33nevcairielif anything audio has SPS, samples per second, also known as sample rate =p
12:07.36Gnarfozbut the episode is still 1h07min long? either the ep is really long in the original or idk
12:10.36Gnarfozwhat's the best way to shift audio pitch during playback? ^^
12:10.52quiescenso.o
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12:17.47nevcairielyou don't
12:19.41Gnarfoz:(
12:19.46nevcairieli read that the audio is generally quite terrible on the leak
12:19.57Gnarfozthat must be the small, broken-up version
12:20.15Gnarfozthe almost 2 GB one from HBO Now (? Go?) seems fine
12:20.51nevcairiellets see, its about done
12:21.13Gnarfozthe "SiT" flv, that is
12:21.30nevcairielwhy would anyone ever opt to use flv
12:22.02nevcairielman the quality is terrible
12:22.05Gnarfozamateurs?
12:22.22Gnarfozis it? 4 Mbit/s 1080p, should be comparable to iTunes 1080p :P
12:22.34Gnarfozhttp://i.imgur.com/Vu0BZM3.png
12:22.40nevcairiellooks like crap, its recorded in 30 fps with motion judder
12:22.42Gnarfoz(well, of course, no comparison to Amazon)
12:22.47nevcairieli rather wait another week then be in pain for an hour
12:23.05nevcairielits also super blurry and has some encoding artifacts all over
12:24.42Gnarfozhm, either I'm less picky, or we have different versions (at least during the intro scene it seems fine to me)
12:25.10nevcairieli instantly notice motion judder, just cant deal with that
12:25.36Gnarfozmaybe it's the flv?
12:25.59nevcairielthe video is 30 fps, the content is 24 fps, thats just broken
12:26.07nevcairieli could post-process it to try to fix it, but i can wait
12:26.08Gnarfozcontent should be 25fps
12:26.18Gnarfozif it's from a European HBO (seems swedish)
12:26.30nevcairieli doubt they use 25 for a web stream
12:26.41Fiskergot was from spain I think?
12:26.43Gnarfozwhy else would the audio be the wrong pitch?
12:27.20Gnarfozit's from several places, apparently
12:27.22Gnarfozalso: http://i.imgur.com/mM1CS4Q.jpg
12:27.23nevcairielthe 4% pitch difference is barely noticeable
12:27.50Gnarfozwhut? everything is too high :D
12:28.05nevcairielbut it makes it even worse, if its 25 fps recored as 30 then there isnt even a clean factor to restore it to its original 24 =p
12:28.19Gnarfozshould be 23.967 weirdness original anyway?
12:28.23Gnarfoz976
12:28.34nevcairielthat difference is irrelevant =p
12:28.49Gnarfozexcept for smooth playback, yeah
12:29.12nevcairielpractically nothing is real 24 fps, so i just dont bother to make that distinction
12:29.52Gnarfozaren't basically all movies? which then get somehow converted to that asinine 1950's backwards compat number :D
12:30.02nevcairielnothing we ever receive!
12:30.23Fiskerhttp://🐋.to
12:30.24FiskerI did it
12:30.44quiescenso.o
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15:26.27znfWait
15:26.34znf.to registers emoji?
15:27.09Megalonyou whaled it, Fisker
15:29.08znfIs banana emoji.to free?
15:31.12nevcairielno
15:32.48winkmojito > emoji.to
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16:18.22Stanzillathat was a fucking amazing GoT episode
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16:19.48nevcairieland I won't spoil it by watching some subpar recording of it =p
16:20.11nevcairielbut stan also watched that stamp-sized leak last week, so
16:21.20Stanzillathis time is not very subpar
16:21.32nevcairielits 30 fps, thats unwatcheable!
16:21.37Stanzillaok
16:22.02Stanzillaand I dont want to get spoilered by the internet
16:22.12Stanzillathat would unavoidably happen to me if I didnt watch it now
16:22.43nevcairielnever happens to me, but i also dont visit evil places like facebook or twitter
16:22.58Stanzillayou are a very weird person anyway
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16:57.03Gnarfoznevcairiel: sanity check: does a 4% speedup (23.976 -> 25) also mean a 4% pitch increase?
16:57.38Gnarfoz(it should, shouldn't it)
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16:58.24nevcairielyes
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17:08.45Fiskerwhat's the current chrome stable Stanzilla ?
17:10.13Stanzilla60.0.3112.101
17:10.18Fiskerneat
17:10.19Fiskerthx
17:20.16znfwhat is the current Fisker stable, Stanzilla?
17:20.22Stanzilla0
17:20.54Fiskerbtw Stanzilla
17:21.00Fiskerhttp://🐋.to/_/hello-world/
17:21.04FiskerI made it do things now
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17:47.45Gnarfozthere, sounds like the regular Amazon fare now
17:48.58Gnarfozthe original should be 2:43 longer, then? heh
17:49.25GnarfozI guess I get to check that on Monday (ok the Amazon ones always have the stuff before the opening... maybe I just won't care! :P)
18:16.12znfQueue people crying for old casting animations
18:17.40znfoh nevermind, they already started http://i.imgur.com/FgJeitW.png
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18:38.26FiskerDid you get preview program yet Stanzilla ?
18:38.56FiskerLike the ability to sign up that is
18:42.21Stanzillayes
18:42.26Stanzillaafter a reset as expected
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18:55.40Gnarfozznf: the answer to that can only be removal of the option to use old models :D
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20:21.26StanzillaFisker: new GPS has 9xx branch now, for O
20:21.58FiskerDamnit Stanzilla
20:22.01FiskerDaaaaaaaamnit
20:23.14Stanzillauploading to APKM
20:27.03StanzillaFisker: https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/google-play-services/google-play-services-11-5-09-release/google-play-services-11-5-09-940-164803921-android-apk-download/
20:29.28FiskerCan't install
20:29.37FiskerRip
20:29.48MegalonFisker is pretty ripped
20:30.49StanzillaFisker: why not
20:31.21FiskerJust says it can't
20:31.28FiskerDon't have logs
20:31.35Stanzillaweird
20:34.48StanzillaFisker: Fun fact: they target Android 6 while setting the minimum required version to 8...
20:36.06Fiskersounds like a dumb fact
20:36.43Stanzillahttps://i.imgur.com/Onjvtoi.png
20:36.43Stanzilla:D
20:36.53FiskerI saw
20:37.27Fisker"More than one device"
20:37.35FiskerNo problem I'll just look at the serial
20:37.42Fisker>both htc devices
20:37.45Fiskerdaaaamnit
20:38.31znfStanzilla, why are google play services different for android8?
20:39.24Stanzilla!8ball
20:39.27FiskerI got a newer version apparently Stanzilla
20:39.35StanzillaFisker: number?
20:40.18Fisker11.5.20
20:40.32Stanzillaalso 9xx?
20:40.36Fiskernope
20:41.11Stanzillawelp
20:43.22FiskerI believe I can force packagemanager to downgrade I think?
20:43.38Fiskeryep
20:43.49Fiskerimma do it because Android 8.0
20:45.55Fiskeroh that doesn't work either damn
20:57.28Stanzillayeah you'd have to uinstall
20:57.32Stanzillaand that wipes everything
20:57.42Megalondu eet
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