IRC log for #wowace on 20170710

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02:22.57znf...I've lost a server
02:23.06znfI can't remember what IP it had
03:04.58Stanzillazarnivoop_: 62x Skada\modules\Tweaks.lua:29: attempt to call method 'GetPetOwner' (a nil value)
03:04.58StanzillaSkada\modules\Tweaks.lua:29: in function <Skada\modules\Tweaks.lua:17>
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04:29.09znfso, Stanzilla - when are they giving us the option to ban a map in hots?
04:29.30Stanzillafor drafts?
04:29.40Stanzillaprobably never
04:30.14znffor QMs
04:30.18znffucking Hanamura
04:32.20Stanzillawill be better with the next patch
04:32.48znfhow so?
04:33.05znfif I'm on a winning streak in QM, I get hanamura, it's over
04:33.16znfI also get incredible shitty team makes, for some reasons, but only on that map
04:33.45Stanzillathey are changing the map a lot
04:33.50znfpost?
04:36.03Stanzillahttp://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20888397/heroes-of-the-storm-ptr-notes-july-3-2017-7-3-2017
04:37.39znfSapper Minions will no longer spawn for the enemy team after a Keep is destroyed
04:37.43znfno more catapults?
04:38.38Stanzillayeah
04:38.43znfso, "a lot" == 8HP instead of 7, no more sappers when keep is destroyed, and now you get XP for payloads
04:38.54znfrest is "who cares about mercs on that map lol"
04:39.04Stanzillaif by catapults you mean those mobs that did -1 hp on the core
04:39.13Stanzillaand everyone just pushed one lane and protected them
04:39.28znfI haven't ever seen that on EU games
04:39.35Stanzillanice
04:39.35znfI know nebula mentioned that's what they do in US
04:39.42Stanzillaalso bribe on that map
04:39.46Stanzillawas pretty insane
04:40.16znfthey're changing Xul, nice
04:41.31Stanzillabbl
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06:17.58zarnivoop_Stanzilla: oops. should be fixed now.
06:19.28quiescenswhat did stan break?
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10:03.19Gnarfozhum
10:03.32GnarfozRyzen PCIe lanes look terrible
10:08.16Phixionಠ_ಠ
10:09.24nevcairieldoes the ryzen chipset have proper support for pcie ssds through the chipset like intel has these days?
10:09.51nevcairielintel basically has a pcie switch in their chipset to do that, which is kinda neat
10:12.45Gnarfozno idea about that, I just noticed a distinct lack of lanes
10:12.56nevcairielwell its 16 like intels consumer lineup
10:13.10nevcairielit probably would've been nice if they extended that
10:13.39nebulacpu is 16, chipset is 8, i think
10:14.07Gnarfozbut those are 2.0
10:14.14Gnarfozand only on the X370
10:14.19nebulatrue
10:14.19nevcairielchipset is only 2.0?
10:14.23Gnarfozyes
10:14.25nevcairielman so backwards
10:14.49nevcairielwell I have 44 lanes anyway, so!
10:14.57Gnarfozanyway, my intel consumer mainboard has 1x x16, 1x x8, 1x x4 (all x16 mechanical) and 3x x1
10:15.11Gnarfozcouldn't find anything comparable for Ryzen even in the 200€+ range
10:15.35nevcairieldo you have a switch or does it just have slots that you couldnt all use at the same time anyway
10:16.11nevcairielthe 3x x1 and maybe even one of the x16 are probably fed from the chipset?
10:16.55nevcairiel(the x1 definitely)
10:18.06GnarfozI have no idea, clearly the lanes must come from somewhere, but these mainboard makers are not in the business since just yesterday ^^
10:18.22nevcairielits usually documented at least in the manual
10:18.55nevcairieleven on my HEDT board one of the x16 slots comes from the chipset
10:19.10nevcairielits the stupidly positioned one right next to the main GPU slot anyway, so noone is going to use it
10:19.12nevcairielbut hey its there
10:20.12GnarfozPCIE6 is from chipset PCIE x4 lane.
10:20.16Gnarfoz- 3 x PCI Express 3.0 x16 Slots (PCIE2/PCIE4/PCIE6: single at x16 (PCIE2); dual at x8 (PCIE2) / x8 (PCIE4); triple at x8 (PCIE2) / x8 (PCIE4) / x4 (PCIE6))*
10:20.32nevcairielmakes sense
10:20.43nevcairielmore then dual x8 on consumer is likely not useful anyway
10:20.48Gnarfozprobably
10:20.57Gnarfozwondering why x16 + x4 is not listed, though
10:21.09Gnarfozconsidering PCIE6 is from the chipset, that should be possible? :D
10:21.15nevcairielbecause its probably a bad idea to run a gpu on that
10:21.26nevcairielx8+x8 is a far better choice
10:21.30Gnarfozprobably not much, and I wasn't thinking of GPU
10:21.38GnarfozI should check with GPU-Z when I get home, though
10:21.51Gnarfozmy HBA is in that slot ^^
10:22.41Gnarfoz- 15μ Gold Contact in VGA PCIe Slot (PCIE2)
10:22.41Gnarfoz<PROTECTED>
10:22.42nevcairielfor an IO device its probably fine
10:22.59GnarfozI meant, since they don't mention that configuration, I wonder what that makes me end up with
10:23.08Gnarfoz8x GPU, 4x HBA?
10:23.12Gnarfozthat'd be dumb :D
10:23.38nevcairielif its in PCIe6 i would expect x16 GPU and x4 from chipset for HBA
10:23.45Gnarfozparticularly considering the HBA is only PCIe 2.0 anyway so it's running at half speed already (which is fine), but downgrading the GPU because of this seems nonsensical
10:24.08nevcairielthose boards are usually not smart enough to re-wire the slot depending on what else is installed
10:24.14nevcairielif its a chipset slot then it remains one
10:24.21Gnarfoz(not that x8 and x16 3.0 are that far apart, wasn't that barely a 3% difference or so?)
10:24.36nevcairielits usually not really noticeable, indeed
10:24.40nevcairielbut still makes you feel odd
10:24.49Gnarfozbetter than feeling ood
10:24.58nevcairielprobably
10:25.07nevcairieldont like growing tentatcles for a mouth
10:26.08nevcairiel-t
10:28.48Gnarfozthe table in the manual does indeed say PCIE6 N/A when x16 is in use in PCIE2, but... they're specifically talking about GPUs. maybe it is smart enough to tell what kind of device is in there
10:29.04Gnarfozor maybe not, because they don't expect HBAs on consumer mainboards
10:30.40nevcairielwell its running anyway, so just check what the GPU runs as? :)
10:30.52Gnarfozthat's what I'm going to do
10:31.03nevcairielbut yeah they mostly just consider x16 slots for GPUs, or x1 slots for random peripherals like maybe a soundcard
10:31.06nevcairielor tv thing
10:33.34nevcairielI should try to figure out how to attach a fan to the VRMs on the mainboard, i need a free floating fan :d
10:38.06Gnarfozhttp://i.imgur.com/Gw1wMdR.png looks fine
10:38.19Gnarfozwonder if I can easy check what the other slot is running at :D
10:39.12nevcairielsomething like AIDA64 can at least show the chipset pcie controller
10:44.09quiescenso.o
10:44.56nevcairieli wonder if i can just install a free-floating fan with zip-ties
11:10.41Megalonit's not free-floating if it's attached with zip-ties
11:11.14nevcairielas long as i get the airflow over the VRM stuff thats getting so hot =p
11:42.41nevcairielmy zip-tied fan does wonders, 30°C less on the VRM under full torture testing load
11:42.49quiescens\o/
11:42.55quiescensgives nevcairiel a cookie
11:48.58nevcairielstill hitting the limits of my CPU cooler though, but not like the full blown Prime95 torture test is any realistic scenario, so its fine
13:05.32Kalrothwhich CPU, nev?
13:07.15nevcairiel7900X
13:08.04Kalroththat's a sassy little thing
13:15.27nevcairielruns quite beautifully, gets a bit hot at times, especially the VRMs, but thats where my makeshift fan mount comes in. easily twice as fast as my old system, so thats nice.
13:16.20quiescenspew
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13:26.12Gnarfozanyone have suggestions for migrating Chrome to a new machine?
13:26.47nevcairielsync with google account, install, done?
13:26.47nebulahowso? the profile should redownload all your extensions and such
13:26.48nevcairiel:D
13:26.48GnarfozI think I might need a second Google account so I can just use Chrome sync and not pollute my personal stuff with work stuff
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13:31.20Gnarfozworkfoz@gmail.com is taken?
13:31.29Gnarfozthe audacity!
13:31.35quiescensgasp
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13:35.35quiescenso.o
13:37.27Kalrothwhat about slackfoz or idlefoz?!
13:37.40quiescenscloudfoz \o/
13:37.50Kalrothbuttfoz
13:38.02quiescensthefoz
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15:29.59Megalonhm
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17:56.49Kesava"image did not match the required aspect ratio"
17:57.17Kesava... what is the required aspect ratio then?
17:57.20Megalon2:4
17:57.20Megalon( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
17:58.19quiescens4:π
18:01.23TorhalKesava: 400x400 pixels. I keep asking for that to actually be annotated...
18:01.47quiescens/blame torhal
18:01.55Torhal<PROTECTED>
18:02.43Kesavaindeed. ty
18:05.29quiescensdies.
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18:22.31MegalonPatients whose emergency surgeries are delayed due to a lack of operating room resources have an increased risk of death or a need for extra recovery time in hospital, a Canadian study suggests.
18:22.35Megalonsuprise motherfucker
18:22.58EthanCentauraifile this under "no shit sherlock"
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18:34.29Ressylol
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18:51.19Megalonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHEPwFlYjEg
18:51.23Megalonawesome!
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23:47.23znffucking google My Business
23:47.33znfsomeone keeps changing the phone number of one of the business I manage
23:47.37znfand there's nothing I can do about it
23:47.49znfthere's no notification, no request for verification, nothing

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