00:05.58 | znf | Stanzilla, some replacement for Microsoft Hyperlapse? |
00:06.03 | znf | Something from this year, maybe? |
00:06.34 | Stanzilla | google photos does some stabilizing but nope, hyperlapse still good |
00:08.40 | znf | not really, won't save to my SD |
00:08.41 | znf | no idea why |
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00:46.01 | znf | my phone just shut off :( |
00:46.07 | znf | high temperature detected while playing a game |
01:08.10 | Stanzilla | xd |
01:32.04 | znf | your account is on hold because of a problem with your last payment |
01:32.11 | znf | I'm gonna need to bitchslap the account owner |
01:32.38 | znf | now what am I going to do with my night at 4:30 in the morning if netflix doesn't work? >_< |
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03:43.09 | Fisker | Pay for your shit znf |
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09:52.02 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel:Â bt4 options mention "ButtonFacade" on the "zoom" checkbox |
09:52.07 | Gnarfoz | that should probably be Masque |
09:52.47 | nevcairiel | these shits get replaced faster then you can make sense of them :p |
09:53.41 | Gnarfoz | what was it before it was ButtonFacade? I forgot |
09:57.27 | nevcairiel | the main annoyance is that buttonfacade -> masque was only done because someone didnt like the name |
10:10.30 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel:Â also, do you include BagBrother in Inventorian's zip? |
10:10.39 | Gnarfoz | (I wouldn't know where else it came from just now) |
10:10.49 | Gnarfoz | if so, its TOC is outdated |
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10:47.49 | znf | Fisker: no |
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10:48.32 | znf | There's no incentive for me to pay for my own Netflix. I don't use it that much |
10:52.53 | Bluspacecow | \o |
10:54.13 | Bluspacecow | I would consider cutting mine for the 2 months till Defenders is out |
10:54.35 | Bluspacecow | but it's only $15 which is like the price for a lunch to me. So like 2 lunchs *shrug* |
11:02.26 | Gnarfoz | hmmm |
11:02.50 | Gnarfoz | is the command prompt thing (shift-f10) available on the windows 10 installer usb thing? |
11:21.45 | Gnarfoz | great, looks like I can start over setting up my new work laptop |
11:22.46 | Gnarfoz | setting DEP to OptOut is effectively changing a boot setting, Bitlocker monitors those, so you have to enter the recovery key (no idea why just the PIN isn't acceptable) |
11:23.15 | Gnarfoz | making sure that you've saved the recovery key to 3 locations and printed it isn't good enough though, when it simply asks for a different key that you don't have |
11:23.17 | Gnarfoz | wtf |
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12:38.01 | Gnarfoz | luckily, Bitlocker doesn't seem to care about timestamps |
12:38.28 | Gnarfoz | bcdedit /set {identifier} nx optin and my PIN worked again |
12:52.37 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: i tell the packager to do that, cant really fix the toc without forking it, and i'm lazy =p |
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14:12.25 | Phixion | https://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2017/06/msg00004.html |
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14:19.43 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel:Â where is it from, actually? I can't even seem to find it |
14:20.35 | nevcairiel | your google-fu must be on vacation |
14:20.37 | nevcairiel | https://github.com/Jaliborc/BagBrother |
14:21.42 | nevcairiel | i could probably just copy paste it in w ith corrected toc |
14:26.21 | znf | what the fuck Phixion |
14:33.11 | Gnarfoz | Phixion:Â I mean... https://www.massdrop.com/buy/z70-mechanical-keyboard?1=1&utm_placement=0&referer=49SPF8&mode=guest_open ok, but why the fuck would I want the connector THERE? |
14:34.17 | nevcairiel | it looks like an antenna |
14:34.27 | nevcairiel | also, you need to go to keyboard rehab |
14:36.44 | Gnarfoz | maybe |
14:36.55 | Gnarfoz | I've not bought one for over a year now! :D |
14:37.02 | Gnarfoz | https://github.com/Jaliborc/BagBrother/pull/3 there |
14:37.07 | nevcairiel | you still have some on the way though |
14:37.15 | nevcairiel | or at least caps |
14:37.15 | Gnarfoz | yep still waiting on that Wooting One |
14:37.32 | Gnarfoz | nah, no caps either, although those are harder to resist because of the lower price |
14:37.52 | Phixion | Gnarfoz: stupid, might look alright if it wasn't a 90deg cable but then it would fuck with lefthanders |
14:38.09 | Phixion | actually nah |
14:38.12 | Phixion | its just stupid |
14:38.31 | Gnarfoz | hehe |
14:38.32 | Phixion | znf: > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 |
14:39.17 | znf | Phixion, yes |
14:39.19 | znf | I laughed at that, too |
14:40.10 | Gnarfoz | the response is great |
14:40.19 | Gnarfoz | including a bible reference sold it |
14:40.33 | nevcairiel | I find it stupid that the guy responding that mail choose the monopoly thing of all things to call out MS on. Its a stupid symptom of our culture, personally I believe if they make an OS that everyone wants to use, they may as well have a say what goes on in it =p |
14:42.59 | nevcairiel | hey your software became so popular, now the government will control what you do with it! |
14:45.27 | znf | I'm actually not sure if that initial guy is a troll or not |
14:45.42 | znf | because I'm fairly convinced people like that exist |
14:45.48 | znf | "scared of the devil mascot" |
14:45.50 | znf | like, what? |
14:45.53 | znf | how do you function from day to day? |
14:57.01 | Gnarfoz | christianly |
14:58.12 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel:Â I didn't click the links provided, but weren't the accusations more along the lines of "hey, you're actively using your awesome position to make it difficult for others to compete"? ^^ |
14:58.42 | Gnarfoz | also, can someone share their output from diskpart 'list partition' on win10? |
15:00.19 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: if they want to make their own OS to compete with Microsoft =p |
15:01.09 | Gnarfoz | that sentence seems to have had an accident |
15:01.52 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: https://pastebin.com/mNQHtrLf doesnt look very special |
15:02.08 | Gnarfoz | yeah I just want to compare |
15:02.25 | Gnarfoz | ty |
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15:02.54 | nevcairiel | I never felt particularly hindered to install a different browser even before the EU got their way |
15:03.13 | nevcairiel | those others didnt want MS from stopping them, they wanted MS to advertize alternatives, which imho goes too far, but shrug |
15:04.17 | nevcairiel | the ruling expired anyway and the browser chooser hasnt been seen anymore |
15:04.21 | Gnarfoz | nah, that's the result EU came up with, IIRC |
15:04.37 | Gnarfoz | (also was EU commission anyway, the people nobody voted for) |
15:04.53 | nevcairiel | kaspersky is trying to pull the same crap with AV now |
15:05.00 | Gnarfoz | (if I hate one thing about the EU, it's the existence of that nonsense body) |
15:05.35 | Gnarfoz | awww, not enough space to fit winre.wim on my recovery partition |
15:05.45 | Gnarfoz | seems I'll have to do major surgery after all |
15:06.11 | Gnarfoz | or not, if Windows' claims that Windows RE can't be used with Bitlocker hold true |
15:08.09 | Gnarfoz | https://haste.smb.wtf/rihukasanodebuvoluhadenuxikise mine is a bit weird now |
15:08.28 | Gnarfoz | initial research suggests that it'll dangerous to try and move the EFI partition |
15:08.45 | nevcairiel | you also have oddly different sizes |
15:09.27 | Gnarfoz | yeah I was wondering why your "reserved" partition is only 16 MB |
15:09.35 | Gnarfoz | http://i.imgur.com/MeuTFWi.png also, that one doesn't show up in diskmgmt.msc at all |
15:10.30 | nevcairiel | i'm not encrypting my main drive though, i find that too annoying :D |
15:10.33 | Gnarfoz | and everything else is also different sizes. odd |
15:10.57 | Gnarfoz | I have to, so :shrug: |
15:11.13 | nevcairiel | can bitlocker leverage ssd hardware encryption |
15:11.19 | Gnarfoz | yes |
15:11.28 | Gnarfoz | if it supports eDrive and Opal 2.0, I think |
15:11.42 | Gnarfoz | which makes it even more confusing they picked the ONE variant of this SSD that doesn't encrypt itself |
15:12.08 | Gnarfoz | why require disk encryption on company-owned equipment and then do it wrong |
15:12.29 | nevcairiel | i may not have paid proper attention during setup, but I do wonder if it lets you set that up right there when installing windows |
15:12.38 | Gnarfoz | (there's literally a different model of the same SSD that does encryption) |
15:13.00 | Gnarfoz | just drives (ha) me mad, this lack of attention to things |
15:13.41 | Gnarfoz | at least this laptop is a lot beefier than the other one, so I probably won't notice |
15:14.18 | Gnarfoz | I should figure out what the remaining two devices without drivers are |
15:15.03 | nevcairiel | no hardware encryption for me |
15:15.34 | nevcairiel | i wonder how performance is impacted from hardware encryption, if at all |
15:15.46 | Gnarfoz | should be none at all |
15:16.07 | Gnarfoz | at least not when comparing using it vs not using it on a drive that supports it |
15:16.24 | Gnarfoz | usually, "using it" just means "actually handling the keys" |
15:16.37 | Gnarfoz | i.e. it's always encrypted, even if you don't set it up |
15:16.51 | nevcairiel | i suppose most drives encrypt anyway to improve the randomness of data, yeah |
15:16.55 | nevcairiel | that helps nand storage |
15:17.17 | Gnarfoz | which is also why the easiest way to tell if bitlocker is making use of it is lack of a progress bar when enabling encryption |
15:17.31 | znf | I used truecrypt once... it was so horribly slow on a Q6600 CPU :( |
15:17.38 | Gnarfoz | (although you can tell before that on win 10, if it offers to use AES-XTS, then it's doing software) |
15:18.20 | Gnarfoz | q6600 is not particularly new ^^ (no idea how much of a load 1 thread of AES-XTS would represent for that, though...) |
15:18.35 | nevcairiel | i cant even enable bitlocker because i dont have a TPM, it tells me to go somewhere and change some setting, but i would need google to even find that :D |
15:19.03 | znf | Gnarfoz, that was obviously 7 years ago :P |
15:19.28 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel:Â really? odd. it should know and just fall back to PIN |
15:19.35 | Gnarfoz | unless you had the GPO in place to forbid that |
15:19.42 | nevcairiel | apparently thats default |
15:20.27 | Gnarfoz | znf:Â right, because today, it'd be called VeraCrypt! ^^ |
15:20.52 | znf | oh |
15:20.56 | znf | I wasn't aware someone forked it |
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15:25.23 | Gnarfoz | seems this computer has a WiGig adapter |
15:25.35 | nevcairiel | whats WiGig |
15:25.36 | Gnarfoz | I wonder if anything else in this city has |
15:25.54 | nevcairiel | is that a fancy name for 802.11ad |
15:25.54 | Gnarfoz | something something gigabit wireless |
15:26.01 | Gnarfoz | no clue, I'd have to look it up |
15:26.22 | nevcairiel | apparently yes |
15:26.33 | znf | Gnarfoz, werent' you looking for a replacement to that crappy e-mail client? |
15:26.34 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/nm8JCwj.png |
15:26.46 | Gnarfoz | no I wasn't |
15:26.54 | Gnarfoz | and you suggested mailbird last time as well |
15:26.58 | nevcairiel | i've seen 802.11ad modules on new motherboards from this year as well - although i still wonder who in their right mind buys a high-end gaming motherboard and then uses it over wifi |
15:27.00 | znf | you should, then |
15:27.04 | Gnarfoz | no, why |
15:27.30 | Gnarfoz | and why are you linking it now |
15:27.47 | nevcairiel | he probably gets a bonus for selling subscriptions |
15:28.06 | Gnarfoz | from a screenshot? ;D |
15:28.20 | Bluspacecow | *facepalm* https://www.reddit.com/r/talesfromtechsupport/comments/6fykdb/i_have_a_computer_forensics_degree/ |
15:28.44 | Gnarfoz | a discount code seems to be in play, though, that price is half off again from the regular "50% off" |
15:28.46 | znf | Gnarfoz, I just realized it's dirt cheap now :P |
15:29.00 | znf | Gnarfoz, yeah, clear cookies -> "first visit, 50% off!" |
15:29.04 | Gnarfoz | that's not enough |
15:29.35 | znf | worked here |
15:29.36 | Gnarfoz | that only brings it down to 32.5⬠for me |
15:29.47 | znf | I linked it to a friend telling him it's 32⬠as a discount |
15:29.54 | znf | he linked the screenshot to me that for him it's 16⬠|
15:29.59 | znf | I cleared my cookies, got it at 16⬠too |
15:30.00 | Gnarfoz | hacker |
15:30.20 | Gnarfoz | anyway... "With apps built in like Facebook, Twitter, WhatsApp, Asana, Dropbox, Todoist, Google Calendar, Moo.do and many more⦠|
15:30.20 | Gnarfoz | " no thank you |
15:30.28 | Bluspacecow | .... |
15:30.35 | Gnarfoz | and calling it a lifetime licence when it only covers version 2.x is also a bit disingenious |
15:30.42 | Bluspacecow | I'm playing skull girls and painwheel just spat her gum at me :( |
15:35.39 | nevcairiel | probably quite deserved |
15:36.10 | Bluspacecow | :( |
15:36.12 | Bluspacecow | so mean! |
15:37.23 | Gnarfoz | I don't even know what that is |
15:37.37 | nevcairiel | nor I, but it felt like the right thing to say |
15:38.58 | Bluspacecow | think Street fighter. but with girls |
15:42.20 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel:Â apparently, this is one use for WiGig http://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-wireless-dock/apd/452-bbux/pc-accessories |
15:42.30 | Bluspacecow | wig ? |
15:42.32 | Bluspacecow | LOL |
15:43.07 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: from what i can tell its just fast ordinary wifi |
15:43.50 | nevcairiel | so yeah sure on ultra low range like this you can probably put some useful connectivity through that |
15:45.32 | nevcairiel | although WiGig (or 802.11ad) has a fatal flaw, its ultra high frequency and barely, if at all, penetrates any walls |
15:45.35 | Gnarfoz | yeah shame it's 270$ :D |
15:46.00 | nevcairiel | (its on 60GHz) |
15:46.03 | Gnarfoz | I think this is also the same tech they once suggested for use as "in-rack wifi" |
15:46.12 | Gnarfoz | like anyone in their right mind would want to do that |
15:47.54 | nevcairiel | soon i'll have to do motherboard shopping again, hope someone makes a sensible board with all the right high-end features but not with some of those no-go features like killer NICs or forcing wifi onto you |
15:48.48 | znf | gives nevcairiel some gaming glasses |
15:49.18 | nevcairiel | it took me about two days already to pick out a PC case that can support a 280mm radiator and otherwise has the things I wanted, i felt like trying a proper AIO for once |
15:50.01 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel:Â ask Corsair for this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRPmykpEJfA |
15:51.15 | nevcairiel | i like ordinary size cases |
15:51.43 | nevcairiel | and i kinda dont want a window or glass door, which is really hard to get in recent cases =p |
15:52.54 | nevcairiel | decided on one two years old or so now, when cases still had optical drives :D |
15:54.38 | nevcairiel | i've been watching way too many case review videos last week |
16:21.59 | quiescens | o.o |
16:22.07 | quiescens | just get a box and throw things in |
16:22.10 | quiescens | ^^ |
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17:03.23 | Bluspacecow | Fisker |
17:03.28 | Bluspacecow | my monk has a wonderful heater |
17:03.37 | Bluspacecow | he keeps going on about feeling the wrath of it |
17:03.42 | Bluspacecow | he just wanted to let you know that |
17:03.54 | Fisker | Good |
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17:40.21 | Stanzilla | Fisker: hype http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/06/08/android-o-dev-preview-3-rolling-final-apis/ |
17:42.22 | Fisker | Nice |
17:43.29 | Fisker | No preview for me :( |
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18:49.01 | quiescens | moo |
18:49.44 | ls-pc | moo ):3 |
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18:59.28 | Stanzilla | Fisker: https://developer.android.com/preview/download-ota.html |
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22:13.22 | znf | Is there some EU law/regulation that states home appliances must not exceed 2000W in power? |
22:13.31 | znf | as in *any* appliance? |
22:16.53 | nevcairiel | dont think i've ever heard for a general rule for all things, but there is a whole bunch of rules for individual devices |
22:20.04 | znf | I keep trying to find an electric grill that is over 2000W in power, but nope, none |
22:20.30 | znf | (well, I found one, but the price was well in range of Pro tools) |
22:21.17 | nevcairiel | the first one I found on amazon is rated at 2300W |
22:21.19 | nevcairiel | shrugs |
22:21.59 | znf | I was shopping locally |
22:22.02 | znf | link |
22:22.37 | znf | I don't know how electric grill translates to german |
22:22.59 | znf | nevcairiel, ah, I want a contact one (with top and bottom plates) |
22:23.43 | nevcairiel | those are inherently expensive tho |
22:23.49 | znf | the tefal ones, yeah |
22:24.02 | znf | and based on the reviews, not even that great (the tefal ones) |
22:24.12 | znf | normally below 100⬠tough |
22:25.33 | nevcairiel | the wattage is often a function of their size, if its bigger it draws more power because bigger area - doesnt mean it can really apply more heat in a single spot |
22:25.36 | znf | thing is, most of them have aluminium plates, and those tend to warp due to heat |
22:26.19 | znf | and the ones with top/bottom plates are kind of low powered, if you consider that there's a heater element in both sides (so effectively is more like 1000W/plate) |
22:26.37 | Funkeh` | the only limited device I know is vacuum cleaners |
22:26.42 | Funkeh` | there are probably more though |
22:26.56 | nevcairiel | yeah but the heat doesnt just escape out the top everywhere |
22:27.16 | znf | I'm aware of the vacuum cleaner limitation |
22:27.31 | znf | I think that's 1600W max |
22:27.37 | znf | which, again, it's stupid |
22:28.01 | Stanzilla | Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL) no longer requires Developer Mode! Previously, you had to enable Developer Mode (Settings -> Update & Security -> For Developers) in order to run Bash & Linux tools on Windows. This restriction has been lifted; you can now run Bash on Windows without developer mode being enabled! More information here |
22:28.01 | Stanzilla | <PROTECTED> |
22:28.03 | Stanzilla | hype |
22:28.27 | znf | nice |
22:29.30 | znf | wait, wtf is with the nvidia max-q laptop |
22:29.36 | znf | such an odd placement for the keyboard |
22:30.05 | znf | talking about this https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/06/nvidia-max-q-laptop-review/ |
22:30.10 | znf | which seems to be an asus, actually |
22:31.19 | nevcairiel | its a different design for sure, but maybe not that terrible. i've always hated accidentally hitting the touchpad when using the keyboard, just because i'm used to having my hands rest on something |
22:31.50 | znf | yeah, it's weird, can't label it as bad tough without trying it |
22:32.45 | znf | probably the lack of slope would annoy me the most |
22:33.17 | znf | as in - it seems to thick at the spot where the keyboard/laptop ends |
23:00.39 | znf | when did samsung stop puting MHL ports on their phones? |
23:12.20 | nevcairiel | my S8 has MHL support, just need a USB C to MHL adapter, but its not like they ever had dedicated special MHL ports or anything |
23:12.37 | znf | s6 doesn't support it |
23:15.05 | znf | the microUSb port on the phone was a bit different in the case of mhl-enabled phones |
23:15.12 | znf | like: v |
23:15.13 | znf | http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-hoow2oH8eVI/Ukw1OgUDP7I/AAAAAAAAAB8/yhoKeIegr0k/s1600/mhl+difference.jpg |
23:15.55 | nevcairiel | well thats all gone with USB-C anyway |
23:16.17 | znf | I was specifically interested in the S6 :) |
23:35.31 | znf | https://www.banggood.com/DOOGEE-MIX-5_5-Inch-Android-7_0-4GB-RAM-64GB-ROM-Helio-P25-Octa-Core-2_5GHz-4G-Smartphone-p-1155525.html?utmid=1772 |
23:35.38 | znf | the chinese really make decent looking phones |
23:35.43 | znf | too bad the software is horrible |
23:35.54 | znf | not to mention that MTK chipsets are usually a piece of crap |
23:42.14 | Stanzilla | what are you trying to do |