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09:09.27Phixionsup quiescens
09:13.36quiescensmoo
09:18.15Kalrothhey Fisker, Acer Predator X34 or ASUS ROG SWIFT PG348Q?!
09:19.13FiskerN
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10:43.32Gnarfozhey Kalroth, get a TV
10:49.28znfSwiftkey just made all their themes free
10:49.32znfHow are they making money now?
11:06.43Phixionyour data
11:07.51Phixionj/k
11:10.46znf/s
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11:17.50GnarfozMicrosoft can probably afford it
11:20.07znfforgot they were bought
11:21.15hasteI need a new keyboard on Android
11:21.24hasteSwiftKey has been utter shit the last half year or so
11:21.47hasteit makes so many strange auto-completions
11:24.13Gnarfozmaybe you want to clear your profile
11:24.24Gnarfozit's not like the tech has somehow changed to be terrible :D
11:24.35Gnarfozit's still far and away the best IMHO ^^
11:30.09znfit's still the best
11:30.14znfif you feed it shit, it will give you shit
11:30.15Gnarfozbut if you don't want to, there's nothing stopping you from using any of the other gazillion keyboards available, this is not iOS, after all
11:30.25Gnarfoz:D
11:30.46Gnarfozare you using multiple languages?
11:30.58Gnarfoztype, swype, or both?
11:36.46Megaloni only communicate in emoji
11:36.51Megalon( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
11:38.44znfthat's not emoji :-|
11:38.56znfthis is emoji 🍪
11:39.27mitch0that's just an empty rectangle
11:39.34znfStanzilla, hanamura should have 9 points
11:39.34znfor 12
11:39.55Gnarfozkaomoji
11:40.11Gnarfozmitch0: your IRC client is broken, then ;)
11:40.13hasteGnarfoz: I've tried with both multiple and not
11:40.22mitch0Gnarfoz: is not
11:40.24hasteclearing my profile doesn't seem to do much anymore
11:40.45hasteI used to disable the "cloud dictionary" thingy and that helped a lot
11:40.47hastebut the option is gone
11:40.55GnarfozoO that's just for syncing between your own devices
11:41.09Gnarfozunless you use one for gibberish and one for actual communication....
11:41.16hasteno, not the account sync
11:41.30hastethey had a separate option for suggestions from others or so
11:41.44Gnarfozoh, right, the "this is trending on twitter" thing
11:42.06znfI find that pretty nice
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11:43.13hasteI don't think it was Twitter based Gnarfoz :P
11:43.47GnarfozI'm pretty sure it had support for that
11:44.40Gnarfozis your typing heatmap fucked?
11:45.01znfhaste, you're holding it wrong
11:45.45hastesome letters are really skewed
11:45.57hastemaybe I should try another reset
11:47.23znftold'ya
11:47.24GnarfozI wish SwiftKey Neural would happen
11:47.50Gnarfozhaste: did you accidentally install https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.touchtype.shakespeak ;D
11:48.24Gnarfozthinking about it, that'd be terrible malware... inject bad predictions into keyboards
11:48.37Gnarfozor even one or the other URL to crap
11:49.48GnarfozI'd also recommend against "personalization"... maybe emails or such, but tbh I don't really want them reading all of my emails/sms/tweets or such anyway
11:50.09hastenever used personalize
11:50.21GnarfozI wonder
11:50.24Gnarfozif you only reset local
11:50.34Gnarfozwill it just sync remote data on top of that
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11:50.40Gnarfozhttps://support.swiftkey.com/hc/en-us/articles/201583871-How-do-I-clear-my-learned-language-data- isn't being too clear about that
11:50.51hasteI clicked the "delete your remote data"
11:50.54hasteI'm guessing it does remote :D
11:51.06Gnarfozyeah, and probably doesn't affect your local keyboard at all
11:51.26Gnarfozmaybe that's why "resetting doesn't seem to do anything"?
11:51.40Gnarfoz(although I'm confident you already tried the other option)
11:52.00znfhttps://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/TNBNIIGb/Screenshot_2017-06-06-14-51-24.png
11:52.18hastedid a: delete remote data, signed out and killed the local data
11:52.24FiskerI want to kill everybody in the world
11:52.27hastelet's see how well this works now
11:53.02Gnarfozat most, as well as it did on day 1, hehe
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12:00.43Gnarfozhttps://swiftkey.uservoice.com/knowledgebase/articles/375642-what-are-trending-phrases "analyzes Twitter" btw
12:01.11Gnarfoz(regardless, it looks like they either removed it or baked it in permanently. I hope it's the former)
12:02.15Phixionhey Fisker
12:02.32Megalonrandom heys are the best
12:03.45Gnarfozhaste: there's also this https://support.swiftkey.com/hc/en-us/articles/201590701-Why-are-my-predictions-not-working-with-SwiftKey-Keyboard-for-Android-
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12:09.41FiskerHey Phixion
12:10.49hasteGnarfoz: that's kinda what I ended up doing now
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12:13.01GnarfozI shall install SK Neural for fun
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12:20.29Gnarfozhttps://blog.swiftkey.com/swiftkey-hub-gets-a-new-look-in-latest-swiftkey-for-android-update/ neat, didn't know about the shortcut feature
12:20.37Gnarfozalso "big di...amonds", sure.
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12:22.00Gnarfozhmm
12:22.10Gnarfozlooks like SK neural was already integrated into regular SK: https://blog.swiftkey.com/neural-networks-powers-new-languages-in-swiftkey-keyboard-for-android-beta/
12:22.27znfGnarfoz, btw, are the settings of swiftkey very slow for you, too?
12:22.50znfthey scroll /so/ slow for me
12:23.12znfand they're sluggish overall
12:23.51Gnarfoznot particularly, no
12:25.09znfeven typing in some apps is incredibly slow with swiftkey, never know why
12:25.12znfdoesn't happen with other apps
12:25.40Gnarfozthe theme list is a bit sluggish
12:25.49Gnarfozthat's the only area, though
12:27.19Gnarfozalthough only the fullscreen one, not the one in the "hub"
12:27.47Gnarfozdamn, now I switched themes unintentionally and I don't know which one I was using previously
12:28.03znfI can't ever get around to switch themes
12:28.10znftakes too much time to get used to new colors
12:28.12GnarfozI didn't intend to ^^
12:29.32GnarfozI should just use Ninja Pro
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12:32.02Gnarfozone thing that kind of forces me to stay with SwiftKey is the ability to pick they key layout independently from the language; not sure if maybe some other keyboard has learned to do that, yet
12:32.55znfdual-language for me
12:33.04znfand the thumb layout
12:33.07znfand the small size
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12:59.16Phixionhttp://blog.erratasec.com/2017/06/how-intercept-outed-reality-winner.html?m=1
13:00.14Gnarfozdidn't she also give interviews before being arrested, where she admitted to it
13:00.31Gnarfoz(not to lessen the reporter's idiocy)
13:01.02Gnarfozalso, she used her work computer to email them
13:01.04Gnarfoz:D
13:01.23GnarfozI'm all for the juicy leaks, but come on :p
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14:13.46GnarfozPhixion: https://www.massdrop.com/buy/vortex-core-47?1=1&utm_placement=0&referer=49SPF8&mode=guest_open stop me
14:15.59Phixioncute as fuck
14:17.31znfhttp://i.imgur.com/l0D686L.png
14:17.35znfhow the fuck does netflix measure?
14:18.20GnarfozI think... they elaborate on the very site you took that picture of
14:19.27znfthat's not what I asked?
14:19.40znfwhy are they showing only 120Mbit when if interface does 180+?
14:20.33znf...it seems speedtest.net is also dissapointing me
14:20.50Gnarfoz"To calculate the download speed, Fast.com performs a series of downloads from Netflix servers.
14:20.50Gnarfoz" - implying they're averaging stuff
14:20.59Gnarfozyour observed number might have been a peak
14:21.08znfhttp://i.imgur.com/zM4182a.png
14:21.30Gnarfoz(additionally they mention that it's not meant to be particularly accurate, just a simple rough tool for Netflix customers)
14:21.44znfI'm wondering if chrome fucks it up
14:21.50Gnarfozon top of that, your network setup seems broken
14:21.51Gnarfoz:p
14:21.57znfwhat do you mean?
14:22.06Gnarfozwell, the same thing you mean
14:22.17znf...why is it broken?
14:22.18Gnarfozit's almost double what the website reports, that can't be right
14:22.31Gnarfozyou tell us? it's your system :p
14:22.39znftorrent shows up just fine
14:24.14znf...the fucking speedtest is too short
14:26.26Gnarfozhttp://speedof.me/
14:27.45znfI don't think that website has enough bandwidth for me
14:41.40znfGnarfoz, basically they're too short for me to attain full gigabit
14:41.46znfit crawls up too slowly
14:44.42GnarfozI thought speedof.me increased the sample size until speed becomes stable
14:44.48Gnarfozbut maybe they don't have enough b/w to feed you
14:44.55Gnarfozalso, what's my bnet api token
14:44.58Gnarfozffffffuuuu
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14:56.00znfGnarfoz, it stops at 200Mbit
14:56.48znf(or 128MB sample)
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17:42.27Gnarfozgrml Amazon delivers HDR to me when I play UHD content, but my TV doesn't do HDR
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18:02.57znfsucks, man
18:06.48Gnarfozsupposedly there was some update some time for my model to "enable HDR", but I wonder how that'd be possible
18:06.53Gnarfozmaybe so it doesn't straight choke on it :p
18:07.26Gnarfozanyway, I'll have to set up my tripod and take some comparison "screenshots" with manual settings
18:07.44Gnarfozlooks like it's more washed out than it should be (which would indicate I'm fucked and should not watch the UHD versions)
18:08.02Gnarfozcan't really tell, though, switching between versions takes too long
18:08.21Gnarfozin other news, looks like I have two separate problems with standby, Stanzilla
18:08.56Gnarfozthe piece of shit waking it up early seems to be the mouse (at least that's the working theory), but the one not waking up properly is my SAS HBA
18:09.13Gnarfozwhich is only fair, I guess, considering it wasn't made for consumer PCs
18:09.36Gnarfoz(for it to even boot I have to tape over 2 pci-e pins ;D)
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18:12.37GnarfozFAULTING_MODULE: fffff80f6cfa0000 lsi_sas2i :(
18:13.38quiescenswhat did you break?
18:13.59Gnarfozany hope of standby mode working, I guess
18:15.34quiescens):
18:15.45GnarfozONE DAY
18:15.52GnarfozI'll move all my disks to another case
18:16.41Gnarfozafter I've found something as reliably working as StableBit DrivePool to merge my disks
18:16.43Gnarfozfor Linux
18:17.02Gnarfoz(I guess I could make the second computer Windows as well, but I don't really want to)
18:17.34quiescensi wonder why they don't make it so those speed test things download an infinite stream for 5s or whatever and calculate (amount downloaded/set time) instead of (set amount/time taken)
18:18.18Gnarfozperhaps that's not as easy to implement?
18:18.37Gnarfozseems like a rather basic tradeoff to think of, so I'd expect someone considered that already
18:18.53Gnarfoz...alas, that might be giving web developers too much credit. :p
18:30.19EthanCentauraiI am super duper excited for Pokemon Crystal coming to VC. :D
18:30.43quiescensgives EthanCentaurai a cookie
18:30.57EthanCentauraieats the cookie and vibrates excitedly.
18:32.57Stanzillahttps://youtu.be/Yk5cwMh4x28
18:39.57znfIt was probably a flash cookie
18:50.55EthanCentauraiprobably
18:55.15Gnarfozshame wowhead doesn't have staff worth talking to anymore
18:55.27Gnarfozwould certainly like to know why the loading spinner keeps spinning forever ^^
18:59.04znfAdblock probably
19:00.55Funkeh`it is funny that they've reduced people and community interaction whilst increasing ads and ad hostility
19:01.24Funkeh`ZAM must be getting hungry
19:03.36Gnarfozznf: I have premium, though
19:04.18GnarfozI guess that doesn't necessarily stop them
19:05.15Gnarfozthe weird bit is that chrome dev tools don't show anything loading
19:12.17znfI say that website is doing at least 10k/mo in ads
19:13.48nebula10 years ago it was making 60k/mo, would be interesting to know what it makes now
19:14.10nebulaand that was before the javascript ad revolution
19:15.05quiescenso.o
19:16.07znfSeriously?
19:16.09znfWTF
19:24.01nebulapoor sko only sold it for a million, too
19:27.03Funkeh`Gnarfoz, that's part of that new InstantLogic or whatever it's called
19:27.23Funkeh`it stops everything when dev tools opens
19:28.30nebulais that an ad network or something?
19:29.01nebulaor architecture, i guess
19:32.08GnarfozFunkeh`: nah
19:32.40Gnarfoz1) I have premium 2) the spinner spins when dev tools are not open and nothing changes when I open them (if instart logic was active, it'd reload as soon as I open devtools)
19:34.31Gnarfoznebula: https://www.instartlogic.com/technology/end-to-end-platform/nanovisor
19:35.32quiescensmoo
19:57.58Gnarfozthey're also still trying to load a web font from an http location
19:58.14Gnarfozhm I guess http is not the issue, missing CORS headers are
20:04.50Gnarfozhttp://i.imgur.com/JCo2IQs.png and the people running this site have the gall to enlist their internet-friends to defend them from a "crusade" against their terrible ad practices? what the hell.
20:05.32Gnarfoz(do note that it STILL hasn't finished loading! while I put that into words, it has increased to 2606 req, 22.1 MB)
21:51.45nevcairieldidnt you say you have premium, why do you keep coming back to this
21:56.31nevcairielwith premium and ublock origin, wowhead works just fine for me, no excess loads or never finishing pages
22:21.19Gnarfoznevcairiel: I get the loading spinner of doom even with premium (and with or without ubo, doesn't seem to matter)
22:21.44Gnarfozso I nuked all cookies (which of course logged me out) and disabled ubo for wowhead just for the fun of it
22:21.46Gnarfozresult: above
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22:28.31EthanCentaurai>busu Leeds, UK
22:28.34Catal1naWeather for Leeds, United Kingdom | Temperature: 12°C; Humidity: 72%; Conditions: Partly cloudy; Wind: Wsw, 29kph; Updated: 8 mins, 32 secs ago | Forecast for Tuesday: Clear; High of 15°C; Low of 10°C | Forecast for Wednesday: Partly cloudy; High of 18°C; Low of 12°C | Forecast for Thursday: Chance of rain; High of 18°C; Low of 12°C
22:47.10znfuhm, why is Gnarfoz's chrome loading telekom.de stuff?
22:47.26znfis telekom injecting content in your browser?!
22:47.50Gnarfozinject content into my browser? whut
22:48.10Gnarfozwowhead's ad network terribleness is injectint telekom ads into wowhead.com, is what you're seeing
22:48.20Gnarfozs/tint/ting/
22:48.40znfoh, ok
22:48.57Gnarfozfunnily enough that ad can't ever work because they themselves forbid it, lol
22:49.10znfyeah, that's what I was gigling about, too
22:49.22znfI remember there was one ISP which did that
22:49.32znfinjecting iframes in non-https content
22:49.43znfand I think it was telekom romania, before they were called telekom
22:50.11GnarfozI wonder if someone from wowhead already reacted to my post, and if so, if it was the unbearable women brigade, or that poor tech guy
22:50.42GnarfozI'm not sure I want to look
22:50.43Gnarfoz:D
22:51.28znfyou know what time it is, Gnarfoz?
22:51.36Gnarfoztrash t ime
22:51.37Stanzillatime for nesquik
22:51.38znfyup
22:51.43Gnarfozalso, it's raining like fuck here right now
22:51.44Gnarfoznice
22:51.55znfwe're still enjoying warmth and sunshine here
22:51.57Gnarfoz(well it wasn't hot today anyway)
22:51.57znfwell, moonlight
22:52.11Gnarfozsummer is currently on a short hiatus
22:52.15Gnarfozreturning Thursday ;p
22:56.13znfI'm dumb
22:56.25znfI forgot to actually throw whatever I have possibly-soon-rotting in the fridge
22:56.32znfbefore taking out the trash
22:56.43Gnarfozgood job
23:43.40Stanzillagot class moutns on 6 chars today
23:43.46Stanzillapriest has by far the most boring quest :<
23:47.18znfalso boring mount
23:48.47Gnarfozit's littering Dalaran's streets with light junk
23:50.04Stanzillayeah it looks like shit as well
23:51.51Gnarfozlolwut, 1&1 seems confused
23:52.59Gnarfozcontract start 2014-05-02 (maybe? certainly not this particular plan!), contract end: 2018-05-20... then why did they increase the price (or rather, the 24 month rebate ended) this month instead of in a year?
23:53.00Gnarfozfuckers
23:53.25GnarfozI bet they'll insist that they can just auto-extend it for 12 months
23:53.40GnarfozI'm not inclined to gift them 120€

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