| 00:03.23 | znf | Gnarfoz, John.Wick.Chapter.2.2017.Repack.BluRay.1080p.AVC.Atmos.TrueHD7.1-MTeam |
| 00:03.24 | znf | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:21.53 | Stanzilla | yeah pretty neat |
| 01:01.02 | quiescens | o.o |
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| 02:22.03 | znf | Stanzilla, why are the geeks masturbating over that Essential phone? |
| 02:22.27 | Stanzilla | good hardware + good software |
| 02:22.30 | Stanzilla | + andy rubin |
| 02:23.07 | znf | am I the only one thinking that selfie camera chipping at the screen is a horrible idea? |
| 02:23.47 | znf | and that excuse of "the status bar is not filling the midle area with icons" is dumb, too |
| 02:23.51 | znf | hello, fullscreen apps!? |
| 02:26.24 | znf | also, lol $700 |
| 02:27.37 | Stanzilla | yeah I dont like the cam there either |
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| 14:09.57 | znf | Stanzilla, http://i.imgur.com/ZBdEIaG.png |
| 14:09.57 | znf | ??! |
| 14:10.08 | quiescens | ! |
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| 14:42.24 | Stanzilla | znf: grats |
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| 16:29.19 | Gnarfoz | znf: hm? |
| 16:29.31 | znf | Gnarfoz, hm? |
| 16:30.10 | Fisker | hm? |
| 16:31.14 | Gnarfoz | you're the one who highlighted me last :p |
| 16:31.17 | znf | ok |
| 16:31.47 | Gnarfoz | not sure what you wanted to tell me with that chinese release there |
| 16:42.08 | znf | >xau 476 eur to ron |
| 16:42.09 | Catal1na | 476.00 eur = 2174.61 ron |
| 16:42.15 | znf | hmmm, G6 is getting cheaper |
| 16:42.39 | znf | but they're all dual sim damn it :-/ |
| 16:42.56 | znf | the single-sim version is +200⬠:-| |
| 16:45.00 | Fisker | What's the problem? |
| 16:46.15 | znf | community support? |
| 16:52.04 | Stanzilla | OTAs for non beta are out Fisker |
| 16:52.16 | Fisker | Of what? |
| 16:52.27 | Funkeh` | you can get 550 platinum PSUs now nice |
| 16:53.16 | Stanzilla | Fisker: 7.1.2 |
| 16:53.34 | Stanzilla | oh, pixels |
| 16:54.37 | Fisker | Source Funkeh` |
| 16:54.51 | Funkeh` | https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/FPs8TW/rosewill-power-supply-quark550 |
| 16:55.11 | Fisker | Though I'm guessing with threadripper and stuff I probably should stay at 750w |
| 16:56.22 | Funkeh` | do you have a lot of disks or something? |
| 16:56.55 | Stanzilla | znf: http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20812213/heroes-of-the-storm-ptr-notes-june-5-2017-6-5-2017 |
| 16:57.47 | znf | Quest: Play 15 Games with friend in VS AI, QM, Ranked, and Unranked as Diablo Heroes |
| 16:57.48 | znf | hesus |
| 16:57.50 | znf | 15! |
| 16:58.11 | Fisker | Funkeh` threadripper would use a ton of power by comparison |
| 16:58.36 | Funkeh` | I put together a quick build with the 8c ryzen and a 1080 and it's estimating 400W |
| 16:58.46 | Funkeh` | change that with threadripped and you got what 500 550 |
| 16:59.15 | Fisker | Yeah, so I'd want at least 750W |
| 16:59.43 | Funkeh` | well you can probably get a titanium 750 |
| 17:00.21 | Fisker | Oh right I thought platinum was the top tier |
| 17:00.58 | Funkeh` | haha a titanium 550 would be great |
| 17:01.41 | Funkeh` | 600 is the lowest I can find that's still pretty good |
| 17:01.54 | Fisker | Also I want the damn heartsink case |
| 17:02.09 | Fisker | Heatsink* |
| 17:04.08 | znf | Every time I check /r/bitcoin I can't get over the fact of how deluded people in there are :-| |
| 17:05.09 | Funkeh` | also I only recently realized that a PSU always uses it's maximum output and the rating is how much it wastes on top of that |
| 17:05.31 | Funkeh` | I thought the rating was good it could regulate dropping under it's max for the current system load D: |
| 17:09.47 | znf | Gnarfoz, any ideas how can I make memtest86 check both CPUs memory channels? :-| |
| 17:09.58 | znf | right now it seems to be doing just 1 |
| 17:11.07 | Fisker | What are you talking about Funkeh` |
| 17:11.39 | Funkeh` | the 80 plus rating |
| 17:12.10 | Fisker | Yes |
| 17:12.15 | Fisker | But it doesn't make sense |
| 17:12.56 | znf | isn't the 80 plus rating a way to say that a 500W PSU will deliver 500W /peak/ power for short periods, but in most situations will deliver 80% of the rated power? |
| 17:13.34 | Funkeh` | "The efficiency of a computer power supply is its output power divided by its input power; the remaining input power is converted into heat. For instance, a 600-watt power supply with 60% efficiency running at full load would draw 1000 W from the mains and would therefore waste 400 W as heat. On the other hand, a 600-watt power supply with 80% efficiency running at full load would draw 750 W from the mains and would therefore waste |
| 17:13.34 | Funkeh` | only 150 W as heat." |
| 17:14.10 | znf | huh |
| 17:14.30 | Megalon | so a 110% PSU would cool the room |
| 17:14.31 | Megalon | neat |
| 17:14.59 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 17:18.36 | Fisker | I don't see how you could've thought it was anything else O_o |
| 17:24.43 | Funkeh` | I guess I just didn't realize a PSU could use over it's advertised max |
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| 17:28.46 | znf | damn it Stanzilla |
| 17:28.49 | znf | I have to reset my chroem |
| 17:28.53 | znf | on my laptop |
| 17:29.04 | znf | the pop-ups still appear somewhere I've no idea where |
| 17:44.07 | nevcairiel | Funkeh`: what a PSU advertises is the power it can deliver to your components, waste not included =p |
| 17:44.38 | nevcairiel | (which is really the number you should care about primarily) |
| 17:45.37 | nevcairiel | and a PSU will only use as much as your system uses + loses from ineffiency, its not like a 750W PSU will always draw exactly 750W (plus loses) |
| 17:51.01 | nevcairiel | Seasonic Prime Titanium 650W is probably what I would get for a single-GPU build right now |
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| 17:52.46 | Fisker | Yeah nevcairiel I thought he literally meant a 750W PSU with a 300W load would still draw 750W |
| 17:52.51 | Fisker | Was very confused |
| 17:52.57 | nevcairiel | thats what it sounded to me too |
| 17:53.01 | nevcairiel | was confused |
| 17:56.26 | nevcairiel | in any case 500W would probably be a bit too small headroom for me just in case I decide to OC, which can increase power draw quite a bit, so rather have 50-100W to spend there |
| 17:57.17 | Funkeh` | badly worded, meant at full load |
| 17:57.24 | Funkeh` | but with a 650 titanium maybe a 550 isn't far off |
| 18:15.10 | znf | is there a hipster keynote today? |
| 18:15.53 | nevcairiel | apple is today isnt it |
| 18:17.06 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 18:17.17 | nevcairiel | hipster central over there |
| 18:17.32 | nevcairiel | any bets what old product apple invented this year? :) |
| 18:20.31 | ls-pc | tablets I guess :p |
| 18:20.38 | ls-pc | and their trashcan |
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| 18:53.00 | quiescens | moo |
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| 19:26.43 | EthanCentaurai | wut |
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| 21:08.29 | Funkeh` | chrome 59 out |
| 21:08.46 | znf | I had to double check the name |
| 21:08.50 | znf | why is Funkeh` saying this instead of Stanzilla? |
| 21:09.12 | Funkeh` | shit wrong account |
| 21:09.27 | EthanCentaurai | what's new? |
| 21:10.05 | Funkeh` | https://chromereleases.googleblog.com/2017/06/stable-channel-update-for-desktop.html |
| 21:10.14 | Funkeh` | more address spoofing... |
| 21:11.17 | Funkeh` | settings panel has been rewritten to be fuck ugly |
| 21:11.42 | znf | oh |
| 21:11.45 | znf | we're talking about stable channel |
| 21:11.47 | znf | last month news |
| 21:12.10 | Funkeh` | yes stable chanel |
| 21:12.14 | Funkeh` | like normal people |
| 21:15.39 | Stanzilla | ó.ó |
| 21:37.38 | znf | Stanzilla, cho'gall is fucking OP |
| 21:38.53 | Stanzilla | I had a really nice game where I healed one with auriel |
| 21:38.56 | Stanzilla | super op combo |
| 21:39.13 | znf | 17 deaths |
| 21:39.15 | znf | 15 to cho'gall |
| 21:39.19 | Stanzilla | :D |
| 21:39.40 | znf | it's stupid to get team fight damage healed as leoric... |
| 21:58.53 | znf | this is just not right http://i.imgur.com/DdfzV5E.png |
| 22:29.00 | znf | my leoric death count is impressive |
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| 23:13.12 | znf | Gnarfoz, stupid question, but memtest86 won't exactly find anything wrong with ECC memory, won't it? |
| 23:13.49 | Gnarfoz | it should find double-bit errors, of course |
| 23:14.14 | Gnarfoz | and your mainboard should tell you how many single-bit errors were corrected anyway |
| 23:14.30 | znf | been running for 8 hours |
| 23:14.34 | znf | no errors, says memtest |
| 23:14.57 | znf | if I boot linux, the ecc errors (correctable) start popping up |
| 23:15.31 | Gnarfoz | ...yes? |
| 23:16.10 | znf | ...? |
| 23:16.13 | znf | why no errors in memtest?!?? |
| 23:16.29 | Gnarfoz | you seem to not understand how ecc works |
| 23:16.46 | znf | I understand how it works... hence me asking if memtest should report errors on ecc ram |
| 23:16.56 | Gnarfoz | that's not what you asked |
| 23:17.12 | Gnarfoz | it should report errors exceeding what ECC covers (single bit errors) |
| 23:17.26 | Gnarfoz | and your "correctable ecc errors" are NOT such errors |
| 23:17.31 | Gnarfoz | so what are you confused by? |
| 23:17.41 | znf | not confused, just wanted clarification |
| 23:17.56 | Gnarfoz | does memtest say "ecc: on" at least |
| 23:18.05 | Gnarfoz | (it should have a column for it) |
| 23:18.20 | znf | they removed the ecc column ages ago |
| 23:20.02 | Gnarfoz | have they? 4.2 isn't that old and it still has it |
| 23:20.20 | Gnarfoz | I guess you might be using passmark memtest, not memtest86+ |
| 23:22.41 | znf | 5.0 has removed it |
| 23:23.26 | znf | and 5.01 is from 2013 |
| 23:26.58 | Gnarfoz | you could see if your mainboard allows turning off ecc |
| 23:27.07 | Gnarfoz | but really, since you have errors... |
| 23:27.10 | Gnarfoz | why not just replace |
| 23:27.22 | Gnarfoz | (probably because: $$$) |
| 23:27.29 | znf | budget, and I don't know which dimm is faulty |
| 23:27.33 | Gnarfoz | why not |
| 23:27.46 | Gnarfoz | the errors should tell you? |
| 23:27.50 | Gnarfoz | the mainboard knows |
| 23:27.56 | znf | my mainboard is tyan |
| 23:28.23 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/YVghREf.png |
| 23:28.26 | Gnarfoz | idk what to tell you, mate |
| 23:28.26 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 23:28.49 | Gnarfoz | if your mainboard won't tell you which slot has the errors, why even have ECC |
| 23:29.32 | znf | and I can't justify 500⬠worth of ram for a system that doesn't produce that money in a year :-| |
| 23:29.59 | Gnarfoz | no support, either, I guess? |
| 23:30.04 | Gnarfoz | kek you're worse than we are |
| 23:30.22 | znf | technically they have lifetime warranty, don't they? |
| 23:30.55 | Gnarfoz | I have no idea what you bought or from whom |
| 23:31.22 | znf | Kingston, I think they have lifetime warranty |
| 23:32.38 | znf | All Kingston server memory is backed by a lifetime warranty. Read the full warranty statement |
| 23:32.39 | znf | hmmm |
| 23:33.32 | Gnarfoz | also, haven't we been over this before ^^ |
| 23:33.55 | znf | nope |
| 23:34.00 | znf | I never tought about warranty |
| 23:34.31 | Gnarfoz | no, I mean identifying dimms from those edac messages |
| 23:34.32 | Gnarfoz | http://fibrevillage.com/sysadmin/240-how-to-identify-defective-dimm-from-edac-error-on-linux-2 |
| 23:35.11 | znf | yeah, not helpful |
| 23:35.17 | znf | I've read all of those |
| 23:36.14 | Gnarfoz | how can they not help |
| 23:36.31 | Gnarfoz | also # grep "[0-9]" /sys/devices/system/edac/mc/mc*/csrow*/ch*_ce_count |
| 23:36.44 | Gnarfoz | from https://serverfault.com/questions/5672/ecc-chipkill-errors-which-dimm |
| 23:36.51 | znf | mc is the cpu, csrow says 4 |
| 23:37.02 | znf | I'm pretty sure I never put a dimm in the 4th row on that server |
| 23:37.13 | znf | seeing that it had 48GB ram |
| 23:37.17 | znf | 6 * 8 |
| 23:37.20 | znf | 3 dimms per CPU |
| 23:37.55 | znf | (on either of the CPUs) |
| 23:39.44 | znf | I guess I *could* check the actual serial# of the RAM that works right now |
| 23:39.45 | Gnarfoz | you realize that refers to the number of rows on dimms? i.e. dual-rank dimms have two ros, quad-rank dimms have 4? |
| 23:40.09 | znf | and assume that this one works, while the undetected one doesn't anymore |
| 23:41.41 | znf | my mapping right now is: http://i.imgur.com/8kRnUea.png |
| 23:43.16 | Gnarfoz | looks like they're dual-rank 8GB modules |
| 23:43.36 | znf | yup |
| 23:43.37 | Gnarfoz | so csrow4 and 5 = same dimm |
| 23:43.52 | znf | huh? |
| 23:43.59 | Gnarfoz | :S |
| 23:44.41 | znf | there's 12 memory slots |
| 23:44.43 | Gnarfoz | it lists 4 GB for 4 and 5 each, or do you have 4 GB modules in there at the same time |
| 23:45.02 | znf | ah. |
| 23:45.07 | znf | right |
| 23:45.11 | znf | no, I have 8GB dimms |
| 23:45.14 | znf | gotcha |
| 23:45.21 | znf | and only 3 are working anymore |
| 23:45.25 | Gnarfoz | as described in my previous link http://fibrevillage.com/sysadmin/240-how-to-identify-defective-dimm-from-edac-error-on-linux-2 |
| 23:45.34 | Gnarfoz | ctrl-f "csrow" |
| 23:45.42 | znf | question is: http://i.imgur.com/caXrKY0.png |
| 23:45.48 | znf | how the fuck does this server work |
| 23:45.54 | znf | different models O.o |
| 23:46.18 | Gnarfoz | different timings maybe? idk |
| 23:46.32 | Gnarfoz | to be honest, I've never seen an Opteron first hand in my life |
| 23:46.40 | Gnarfoz | so I'm maybe not ideally qualified :p |
| 23:47.03 | znf | they're weird as fuck |
| 23:47.56 | znf | I'm pretty sure I either filled all of the slots in here: http://i.imgur.com/SoIennq.png |
| 23:48.55 | znf | s/either// |
| 23:49.42 | znf | I'm running a memory test now on the server with ecc errors |
| 23:49.47 | znf | within linux |
| 23:49.58 | znf | obviously there are no errors |
| 23:50.02 | znf | they creep up only when I'm sleeping |
