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14:07.31 | znf | what the fuck https://amp.thehackernews.com/thn/2017/05/intel-server-chipsets.html |
14:15.04 | Phixion | not sure why everyone is crazy about it, I think there's been a talk on this on 33c3 ...almost 6 months ago |
14:22.27 | nevcairiel | its also largely irrelevant for most people, consumer systems are unaffected and you otherwise need direct network access, and pro systems are hopefully properly behind external firewalls |
14:25.38 | Gnarfoz | the headline is also wrong |
14:25.52 | Gnarfoz | just because a chipset supports vPro doesn't mean you have AMT |
14:26.03 | Gnarfoz | just because you have AMT (which almost nobody does), doesn't mean it's enabled |
14:26.12 | Gnarfoz | etc |
14:26.26 | nevcairiel | yeah most mobos dont license AMT even |
14:26.37 | nevcairiel | and even then its probably off by default |
14:26.41 | nevcairiel | and intel released a fix |
14:26.45 | Gnarfoz | (it's still a problem for the lucky few who're actually affected, of course... but they probably know they're affected) |
14:33.20 | silentium | personally I know quite a few people who privately own thinkpad T or X laptops listed at https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/product_security/len-14963#ThinkPad |
14:34.00 | silentium | but I have to admit I dont know the default settings on those either |
14:36.13 | nevcairiel | getting crazy about that now is pointless a nyway, you can just p atch |
14:38.02 | Gnarfoz | (or, well (ha), turn it off, if it is indeed turned on.) |
14:38.16 | Gnarfoz | or uninstall, for the other half of the issue |
14:38.58 | Gnarfoz | when do we get credit card sized car registrations :( |
14:39.24 | Gnarfoz | not that I want more credit cards, but these old, odd-shaped, paper things are terrible |
14:39.51 | silentium | uninstalling stuff within the Management Engine is kinda difficult since it is a black box and invisible to the OS ;) |
14:40.22 | silentium | and patches only help if your mainboard manufacturer actually offers an update for your board |
14:40.26 | Gnarfoz | I guess you should read the advisory |
14:40.35 | Gnarfoz | one vulnerability relies on the in-OS component |
14:40.39 | Gnarfoz | the other one is out of band |
14:40.54 | silentium | yeah, I'm referring to the OOB one |
15:18.04 | Phixion | funny, most of the people I know with laptops have either lenvo T4xx or Xs :) |
15:20.54 | Phixion | hometime, ciao |
15:23.21 | Megalon | cheerio |
15:43.39 | znf | the X1s are so kinky |
15:43.41 | znf | also kinky expensive |
15:44.07 | znf | I think the 3rd itineration also fixed the dumb keyboard layout |
15:46.18 | znf | (the 2nd generation had a very weird keyboard layout, with home/end being under the tab key, on the left, and backspace/delete being next to each other on the same row, some retardness like that) |
15:46.34 | znf | ah yes: http://college.wfu.edu/itg/wp-content/uploads/keyboard.png |
15:47.06 | Phixion | I am still happy with my x201 tbh |
15:47.26 | Phixion | perfect size |
15:47.46 | Phixion | weird ratio tho |
15:48.18 | znf | I am very picky about keys location, especially on laptops |
15:48.25 | znf | don't mess with my escape key location |
15:49.46 | Phixion | remap |
15:50.00 | znf | can't remap in that case |
15:50.10 | znf | see the picture I linked up |
15:50.30 | Phixion | oh lol wtf |
15:50.44 | znf | and that was a premium laptop |
15:51.00 | znf | I think the top specs were something like $2200 |
15:51.09 | znf | started at $1500 if I remember corectly |
16:03.15 | znf | what the fuck Stanzilla http://i.imgur.com/am9W4Vz.png |
16:03.57 | znf | quests to play vs. AI? :-| |
16:20.48 | Megalon | well, you'd have at least some intelligence in those games |
16:20.54 | Megalon | but I bet you'll still complain |
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16:25.34 | znf | only thing I'm complaining is that people don't understand the concept of "push with me" |
16:25.39 | znf | because I play sylvanas in AI |
16:33.43 | znf | also, dicks http://i.imgur.com/NwvonWa.png |
16:33.44 | znf | they changed it |
16:35.23 | pompy | changed what |
16:37.32 | znf | you were able to do the friend matches in vs AI, too |
16:37.36 | znf | now it's quickmatch and ++ |
16:39.56 | pompy | ah, they only let you do the first quest with friend in v AI |
16:44.51 | znf | yeah |
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16:55.35 | znf | Government voted for the pardon of all the people accused of corruption |
16:55.42 | znf | I smell political protests tonight |
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17:51.33 | Stanzilla | znf: week two was always QM+ afaik |
17:51.38 | Stanzilla | and yeah I have the AI quest too |
17:53.39 | znf | damn it |
17:53.46 | znf | I hate playing with a party of strangers |
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18:01.11 | Megalon | then don't go to swingerclubs |
18:01.20 | Megalon | ¯\_(ã)_/¯ |
18:03.15 | Ressy | snorts |
18:03.33 | quiescens | i don't get why games go to the effort of putting in ai, vs ai modes, etc, and then go out of their way to make the ai modes worthless |
18:26.31 | znf | normally you could do all the quests in AI |
18:26.36 | znf | not sure why they excepted this one |
18:26.51 | znf | there we go, people are gathering to protest https://www.facebook.com/TaNaNaNa.ro/videos/1861778164087812/ |
18:27.35 | Funkeh` | Did they actually go through a fair trial to find them not guilty of corruption or what |
18:28.30 | Funkeh` | gotta love how facebook now bitches at you to log in |
18:28.37 | quiescens | iuno what quest you mean, i just mean games in general o.o |
18:29.31 | znf | Funkeh`, they're already in jail |
18:29.37 | znf | serving time for corruption |
18:29.48 | Funkeh` | so whats the problem |
18:30.07 | znf | if the law passes, they get out of jail and they have 2 years to pay back the damages they've done |
18:30.20 | Funkeh` | how long have they been in for |
18:30.40 | znf | *but* the law also says that they don't necessarily have to pay back the money if they have good causes for them not being able to |
18:30.49 | znf | Funkeh`, depends, 1-2 years for some |
18:31.11 | znf | I'm not entirely up to date on the things each corrupted politician was accused of |
18:31.50 | znf | the justice system barely started convicting them ~2 years ago, because a new "general attorney" was put in place at the head of the national anti-corruption agency |
18:32.27 | Funkeh` | seems like that clause needs tweaked and then it's fine imo, make them pay over time if they can't make it now |
18:32.36 | znf | in the case of Elena Udrea, for example, she was barely sentenced to 6 years of jail last month, definitive |
18:32.44 | znf | This law would release her |
18:32.53 | Funkeh` | considering most people never pay anything back and infact take money out when you consider the jail costs |
18:33.16 | znf | public oppinion won't have that |
18:33.34 | znf | Elena Udrea actually embezzled EU funds |
18:33.46 | Funkeh` | she should get a 1 year minimum and then pay back |
18:34.03 | znf | yeah, but they won't... |
18:34.21 | znf | I would rather know they are in jail |
18:34.23 | Funkeh` | probably going easy on her because "she a woman" and watnot |
18:34.30 | znf | Else the rampant corruption will continue |
18:34.46 | znf | and current elected politicians won't give a fuck about the justice system |
18:35.14 | znf | basically: I'll steal 1mil â¬, be pardoned, and I have 2 years to pay back the money; In 2 years I'll say that I can't pay back the money because of X |
18:35.22 | znf | no jail time, 1mil ⬠in the pocket |
18:35.41 | quiescens | gives znf a cookie |
18:35.57 | znf | the fiscal agency does nothing and it's politically controlled |
18:36.15 | znf | they never, in the last 25+ years, managed to retrieve any prejudice |
18:36.22 | znf | that's why people are pissed off |
18:37.14 | znf | heck, I'm pissed off; I don't even benefit from this |
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18:38.07 | Funkeh` | we do not let the people judge, otherwise everyone would be getting life in jail, we let the courts judge. So if they are pissed off, I hope it's at the idea of the gov trying to overrule the courts, and not just "put them all in jail" |
18:39.06 | znf | the government has the power to vote for immunity removal if one of their colleagues is accused of anything |
18:39.17 | znf | guess how many times that vote passed in favor of immunity removal |
18:39.27 | nevcairiel | it wouldnt be eastern europe without corruption! |
18:39.57 | znf | Funkeh`, I agree with your idea, but unfortunately that doesn't work in Eastern Europe |
18:40.03 | quiescens | who knows how things work in znfland |
18:40.09 | znf | not in the situation we are |
18:40.11 | quiescens | o.o |
18:40.32 | znf | we've been fucked over and over by different parties/governments over the year |
18:40.56 | znf | we've been promised thousand of kilometers of highways, for example, so crossing the country wouldn't take 24 hours from east to the west |
18:41.22 | Megalon | oh, you need to elect an austrian to get that going 8) |
18:41.28 | Funkeh` | it's just funny that in eastern europe they want less gov, more kind of libertarian. meanwhile in the west we got public commie gatherings |
18:41.30 | nevcairiel | if your government is inherently terrible, what makes you think your justice system is any better |
18:41.30 | quiescens | it can't really take 24 hours o.o |
18:41.48 | Funkeh` | "more power to the gov, the gov is great" mkay |
18:42.09 | znf | nevcairiel, our all star prosecutor actually moved shit in the correct direction |
18:42.24 | znf | but the current governing party wants to replace her |
18:42.45 | Megalon | at least she's still alive |
18:42.49 | znf | yeah, I guess |
18:42.50 | Megalon | so you've got that going for you |
18:42.59 | znf | would have been worse in russia, I guess |
18:43.08 | znf | the current governing party wants to undermine justice |
18:43.09 | Funkeh` | lol |
18:43.33 | znf | because more than half of their clientele has on-going accusations and trials |
18:53.53 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: https://thenextweb.com/google/2017/05/03/google-chrome-new-tab-not-symmetrical/ you're welcome |
18:54.58 | znf | good thing I have an extension for new tab :D |
18:55.06 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/YaJCkwH.png |
18:55.07 | znf | \o/ |
18:55.44 | znf | In other Romanian news |
18:55.52 | znf | Bucharest has a new logo |
18:56.05 | Funkeh` | is sit a caravan |
18:56.09 | Funkeh` | is it |
18:56.17 | Gnarfoz | that's the Danish one |
18:56.18 | znf | ...which looks very similar to New Taipey's logo |
18:56.26 | znf | https://scontent.fotp3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18222165_1504619136236900_3952157935431643100_n.jpg?oh=e693ae68d13b85d874cb6107989b269f&oe=598CBFF2 |
18:56.40 | znf | taipei* |
18:56.53 | znf | new taipei's flag, actually |
18:56.56 | znf | doesn't matter |
18:57.04 | znf | and it costs 11.000⬠|
18:57.23 | znf | brilliant |
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19:00.26 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: damn. but that is something I can easly forget because i dont look at that page often |
19:39.06 | znf | Stanzilla, sylvanas needs a legendary skin :( |
19:41.35 | Stanzilla | I'm a happy plum fairy |
19:43.10 | znf | a what now |
19:43.33 | Stanzilla | winterveil skin |
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22:19.38 | znf | Stanzilla, why do my emoji/portraits look like these? :D http://i.imgur.com/ICMLsqK.png |
22:20.44 | Stanzilla | dunno |
22:20.52 | Stanzilla | directx fail? |
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22:50.05 | Stanzilla | https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/68zcwu/there_has_been_another_leak_on_4chan_about_the/ |
22:53.02 | znf | wtf, firefox still needs a restart for new addons |
22:53.04 | znf | what year is this |
22:55.04 | Stanzilla | Windows still needs to restart for updates |
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23:18.00 | znf | MITM-ing Facebook is hard |
23:18.06 | znf | still possible with Charles |
23:18.07 | znf | but hard |
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23:33.28 | Stanzilla | why |
23:36.17 | znf | so. many. ips. |
23:36.22 | znf | and that stupid certificate crap |
23:36.26 | znf | charles says something |
23:36.31 | znf | you have to do something else >_< |
23:36.52 | Stanzilla | I mean why do you do that |
23:38.41 | znf | oh |
23:38.47 | znf | I wanted to ban someone from a facebook page |
23:38.59 | znf | and they wouldn't show when searching |
23:39.36 | znf | so I mitm'd the POST with their facebook-id |