IRC log for #wowace on 20170331

00:02.22znf>tv Lucifer
00:02.24Catal1naLucifer 2016 (Running). Previous Episode: [2x13] A Good Day to Die on 2017-01-30 (042 months). Next Episode: [2x14] Candy Morningstar on 2017-05-01 (031 month). http://www.tvmaze.com/shows/1859/lucifer
00:02.37znfthat's 2 months, wtf is wrong with you
00:03.21TorhalIt's called a hiatus.
00:03.25TorhalThis is a thing.
00:03.55znfprevious episode was on 30th of January
00:04.09znfthen we have an episode in march
00:04.11znfthen in may
00:04.12znfwtf?
00:04.41TorhalNo?
00:04.44Gnarfozyour own bots output says that there's no episode in March
00:04.46TorhalJanuary, then May.
00:05.05Gnarfozunless you have a number between 13 and 14
00:05.07TorhalLast day of January, so effectively February. So a three-month hiatus.
00:05.15TorhalVery common.
00:06.55znfWait
00:07.07TorhalI have seen some shows pull the whole hiatus thing, air an episode, then not show one the following week.
00:07.08znfWhy
00:07.11znfWTF
00:07.29znfI tought it was released last night
00:07.35TorhalNewp.
00:07.47TorhalNot unless there was a leak.
00:07.47znfMy TV shows list didn't show it for a while
00:07.50znfWeird
00:08.08znfMeh
00:08.27znfMe sleepy
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00:10.39znfI read it as 3-30
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00:45.48Stanzillahttps://us.battle.net/forums/en/starcraft/topic/20753915707
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05:33.18Zeldonevcairiel:  http://i.imgur.com/3qN9Wix.png
05:33.21Zeldoezpz
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08:08.34ZeldoAlright nevcairiel, just for you I worked through the night to get those endpoints done
08:08.47ZeldoThey just need code review and deployment now. No idea when that will get done.
08:09.46nevcairielhooray
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11:13.38znfyay
11:13.39znfnew provider
11:13.42znfgigabit
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11:48.59Phixionhttps://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1060828.html :)
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12:03.40hastethat's so great Phixion
12:19.11znfthe retardness in that thread is over the threshold
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12:25.55hasterunning X as root alone is pretty well done
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14:19.19nevcairielZeldo: i found a bug in the localization export on the website, ie. export any language here as "Table" https://www.wowace.com/projects/libbabble-talenttree-3-0/localization/export-lua .. the last entry in the table is lacking a closing quote (and preferably, I would also like a comma to be there for consistency, even if not mandatory for syntax)
14:52.36quiescensi have lost access to more accounts due to sites randomly deciding to require email confirmation on email addresses i haven't updated in a decade or secret question answers i've forgotten than i have lost to forgotten passwords or people getting/guessing my passwords
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14:55.24nevcairiel"secret" questions are like a plague on security
14:55.40nevcairielwhoever thought some basic info about your childhood would be secure information was a crazy person
14:56.25quiescensthats part of the problem, i don't put correct answers in them
14:59.01quiescensanyway, they don't work 10 years down the track, when you've forgotten the obscure piece of information that it thought you would totally never forget
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16:56.15Megaloni always put my password as the answer
16:56.24Megalonso i have to forget it twice
16:56.45quiescens\o/
16:57.14Megalonthough i wish i'd remember the things i went shopping for as good as my passwords :P
16:57.23quiescens^^
16:57.28quiescensbuy cookies
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17:27.26Zeldonevcairiel: Looks like deploy is Monday
17:27.33ZeldoI'll look into that one you mentioned see if I can track it down
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17:48.00TorhalZeldo: Did you get to that ticket about making quiescens' cookies secure?
17:48.04Torhal>.>
17:50.03quiescenso.o
17:50.06FiskerHi Torhal
17:50.23TorhalNoes!
17:50.47quiescensgo to sleep
17:51.01TorhalI'm about to. Have to wake up in four hours.
17:52.41Fisker:)
17:52.45Fisker:/*
17:52.48FiskerSleep well
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18:24.19ZeldoWait
18:24.24ZeldoThis is broken isn't it? https://www.curseforge.com/paste/8a4d77bf
18:24.28ZeldoThat won't work without the comma
18:25.05Zeldonevcairiel: ^?
18:25.14nevcairielyes thats broken
18:25.39ZeldoYea, I thought so
18:25.42ZeldoIt's trimming too far
18:28.29nevcairielbest would be to just have a comma on every line
18:28.35nevcairieleven if the last line doesnt necessarily need it
18:28.39nevcairielbut having it is fine as well
18:31.31ZeldoOkay
18:31.38ZeldoI want to fix the underlying issue though
18:31.45ZeldoWhich is that its trimming too much information
18:40.17ZeldoFixed nevcairiel
18:40.21ZeldoShould be deployed on Monday
18:43.50ZeldoAmiYuy: Can you send me a raw file that causes the issue you asked about?
18:43.55ZeldoI want to be able to test when I look at it
18:45.24AmiYuyLemme look back at the repository and see.
18:47.03ZeldoNo rush! Much appreciated :)
18:48.43RessyCan we get a redesign of the localization sections? it sucks now.
18:49.10ZeldoDefine "it sucks"
18:49.27ZeldoIf we do a redesign on something I don't want it to be 100% us because then we can end up in the same situation
18:49.47RessyWell, if you put in a new localization key.. Such as an NPC name.. You have to go into each language separately, search for it, and then add the localized name.
18:50.05Ressyrather than the old method, where you search for the key itself, and can add multiple localizations in the same screen.
18:50.08ZeldoOh you are talking about adding localizations
18:50.14RessyIt adds a TON of additional work.
18:50.35RessyI mean I import the key... But to do the localization to other languages is annoying now.
18:50.42ZeldoThe current implementation is based off a large translation site
18:50.51RessyAnd?
18:51.00ZeldoWas just saying where the current thought came from
18:51.02RessyJust cuz its based off a large translation site, doesn't mean its optimal.
18:51.16ZeldoI don't disagree, just telling you where we came from :)
18:51.58RessySome of our languages are only 8% translated, so going in and doing the translated names (via changing languages on wowhead), means I can translate char names all at once..
18:52.21nevcairielits designed to let translators work on a single languages, and that flow works mostly fine
18:52.23RessyThe way it is now, adds a ton of extra time, to the point where its not worth doing.
18:52.48RessyWhich is great, if you have translators for all the languages.
18:52.50RessyI don't.
18:53.02AmiYuyIf you're getting a translation from Wowhead, couldn't you use a different API key to make it not need translation at all?
18:53.26Ressyhuh?
18:53.28AmiYuyLet the game do the work?
18:53.36RessyWell tell that to Torhal then.
18:53.44RessyHe hasn't touched anything since July.
18:56.33RessyThere's a ticket in to him to do that.. But I'm working with what I've got right now.
18:57.25AmiYuyUnderstood, didn't realize it wasn't your addon. :)
18:58.04RessyMaintainer of ARL & Collectinator. I deal with database, and minor updates. He does the major overhauls based on what I need. Usually I don't need much.
18:59.29RessyBut, with him not touching anything in months, the tickets are backed up.
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19:21.11AmiYuyZeldo: Sent you a PM with details
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19:31.21znfcrap, tech companies started their 1st of april crap
19:41.11znfhttps://www.reddit.com/r/place/
19:41.12znfwell now
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20:06.44Gnarfozstackoverflow started when the first timezone hit 00:00
20:07.09Gnarfozwhich is just strange, because it means reading it at noon on the 31st
20:10.04Semlarwhat month is it
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20:31.39nevcairielmarchuary
20:35.39ZeldoThank you AmiYuy
20:42.29Stanzilla@engadget: Pornhub adds HTTPS to keep your kinks hidden https://t.co/7x5zxPB1Rt https://t.co/mXtmnp2RcT
20:42.31Stanzillafinally
20:43.56Ressysnickers
20:52.56GnarfozMars
21:04.02znfgit people
21:04.06znfwhat am I missing here?
21:04.08znfhttps://github.com/librenms/librenms/commit/67362e0124cd322796cb7f799849b69441d41f97
21:05.48nevcairielyour question lacks context
21:08.49znfI realized my mistake about 5 seconds after I pasted that
21:12.38Gnarfozhm, hangouts voice call quality to landlines doesn't seem particularly great :(
21:12.46znfStanzilla, happy b-day from the future
21:12.46Gnarfozwtb whatsapp web voice call support
21:13.16Stanzillaznf: thanks :D
21:14.11Gnarfozhey, who set my wow gfx settings to 7
21:14.24Gnarfozalso, why is the maximum still not 11
21:14.29Megalon8)
21:15.06znflol, the reddit thing has gone crazy
21:15.09znfeveryone's doing blue dots
21:15.28Gnarfozwhat is system > advanced > physics interactions about?
21:15.38Gnarfozpushing blades of grass foilage to the side and such?
21:15.55Gnarfozs/oil/oli/
21:17.57Gnarfozthat's the only physics interaction I've ever seen, I think
21:23.36Gnarfozhttp://wccftech.com/vega-teaser-slides-leak-nda/ that'd be a cruel april fool's joke
21:24.34hasteheh
21:29.35FiskerEverything is haste
21:29.53hasteI got a 1080 Ti, so hopefully it's april fools :D
21:35.51znf"are you still watching?"
21:35.56znfyes, netflix, don't judge me
21:36.31Stanzillasmall patch just hit [23:14:22] Gnarfoz: also, why is the maximum still not 11
21:36.33Stanzillawtf
21:36.37Stanzilla7.2.0.23857
21:36.38Stanzillathat
21:36.46Gnarfoz;D
21:40.01nevcairielGnarfoz: it has crazy claims like 4GB memory is enough and even better then  11GB, so..  seems like some stupid fabrication
21:40.09Gnarfozidd
21:40.28GnarfozHBM can't make up for memory size
21:44.03nevcairielGnarfoz: rather invest in nvidias new inventions https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smM-Wdk2RLQ
21:45.04Gnarfozhis ears look funny
21:45.24Gnarfozalso, I kind of want a gtx styled flash drive
21:48.57nevcairielfaking performance data of some companies products seems like it might get you in hot water, not like a page like that cares, they are a low-quality rumor mill at best
22:00.52GnarfozStanzilla: yo, alles Gute
22:01.09Stanzilladanke!
22:01.15nevcairielStanzilla is an Aprilscherz?
22:01.23Stanzillayes
22:01.31Gnarfozdon't pretend like you didn't think that before now
22:01.39nevcairielheh
22:02.02nevcairielcongratulations either way!
22:02.33Stanzillathx!
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22:57.27RessyZeldo, the latest Twitch update lost all my game installations, and can't find any addons.
22:57.43RessyVersion 7.5.6299.9677 Beta
22:58.33Ressyhttps://gyazo.com/d6d6fada0e4859813ec491fc7531f094
22:59.09nevcairielsome update a couple days ago lost my game installation as well, but it found it again and pulled updates fine
22:59.16nevcairielbut i'm still on curse client =p
22:59.35RessyEven manually setting my folder, it doesn't work.
23:08.24RessyHell, even my minecraft saved stuff is gone.
23:08.31RessyWhich I'm really not happy about.. Zeldo / Torhal
23:08.59RessyMight as well mention the stuff about Minecraft, cuz thats really all that Curse cares about at this point.
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23:10.55Ressyhttps://gyazo.com/fa980242fbdd75bffa46d27cca41ede9
23:18.05RessyExited Twitch, reloaded it, lost the games I'd manually located.
23:23.39TorhalRessy: Can you make a report from within the App? The devs will get information on your installation as well as the report.
23:24.44RessyYeah. Should I make a 2nd to tell them that all profiles for Minecraft are gone as well, so I can't even play Minecraft?
23:27.58RessyDone.
23:28.02TorhalYeah, I think keeping the issues separate would help narrow things
23:28.04RessyFiled under Minecraft so maybe they'll care.
23:28.11RessyIt was fine before.
23:28.13TorhalDanke. Wish I could do more, but I have no clue on that stuff.
23:28.21RessyBoth were working fine before this update.
23:28.47RessyI did a ticket in WoW, and then a ticket in Minecraft complaining about both with screenshots.
23:28.48StanzillaTorhal does not even write the community posts he is supposed to write :<
23:29.25TorhalCommunity Update: Stanzilla is still evil, but doesn't complain at all close to the level of znf.
23:30.49Stanzilla= )
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23:39.50Megalonznf was the unit of complainness, then it would probably be like farad
23:40.54Megalonusing pico farad to describe a normal, sane person
23:41.05Megalonern picoznf
23:45.16ZeldoRessy: To clarify I was explaining where our current concept came from, not that your ideas were not valid
23:45.28ZeldoI did ticket your concerns for a larger discussion on the state of translations
23:45.52ZeldoAs for the issues you were having with the client its a bug that was introduced on unmerged accounts and is being fixed. If you merge your account it will fix itself.
23:46.12Zeldoand we do not only care about Minecraft, 90% of the tickets fixed have been WoW, not MC.
23:47.15RessyI have no interest in merging at the moment... I'd really rather not until the bugs are fixed....
23:47.35RessyI'd like to not have random curse accounts made for me.. :P
23:47.49ZeldoYou don't have to merge right now, I filling you in that bug.
23:47.58ZeldoWhat bugs are related to merging?
23:48.08nevcairielIf you want a stable world, why do you use the twitch client, which appears to mostly still be in alpha? =p
23:48.21ZeldoThe one dude with the random account made was a bug on a different side, not on our side.
23:48.45ZeldoThe twitch client has more fixes then the current curse client.
23:50.03RessyI'm on Beta track, and except for the 1 main problem back when it was alpha and not really open to anyone, haven't had issues running beta..
23:50.25Ressy(Back when an uninstall deleted everything in my Program Files folder)
23:50.41ZeldoAlso, I am doing my best to get things as public facing as possible. Working on one of those move internally as fast as I can but I am also trying to get tickets fixed for you guys which eats most of my time (including time that I am NOT on the clock)
23:51.09Ressy:\
23:52.04ZeldoThis stuff seems easy on the outside facing side but there are actually a lot of moving parts to all this stuff
23:52.10RessyI get that you're working hard, but we only see you. We don't see the changes we've requested, we're told theres a ticket, and months later theres still no fixes for what we need.
23:52.22RessyI know you're frustrated.
23:52.24RessyWe are too.
23:52.47ZeldoThe public issue tracker for example has to be managed by someone and we are already current understaffed on that side and so we need a solution that doesn't create a ton of extra overhead
23:52.56Zeldo(Duplicate tickets, linking it to an internal ticket, ect)
23:53.16ZeldoI know you are, but I am doing the best I can and there are many improvements in the works
23:53.28ZeldoJust have to give us a little more time to get these things sorted out
23:54.28Zeldoand yes, I know this has been said before over and over again
23:54.38ZeldoWhich is why I am trying to do everything I can for you guys in the mean time
23:56.03Ressymmhmm
23:56.06RessyFor several years in fact.
23:56.40ZeldoI am very very aware, and I fight for you guys everyday internally
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23:56.59ZeldoWhich has recently resulted in much success but it will take time for that success to trickle into visible items for you guys
23:57.00Ressynods
23:58.40StanzillaZeldo is the hero #wowace needs
23:58.51nevcairielmake #wowace great again?
23:59.11Stanzillathat won't happen

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