00:00.37 | nevcairiel | at least in recent years other new scifi shows showed up |
00:00.55 | znf | I can't think of anything else other than The Expanse |
00:01.06 | znf | oh, and Dark Matter is not bad, either |
00:01.08 | znf | >tv dark matter |
00:01.10 | Catal1na | Dark Matter 2015 (Running). Previous Episode: [2x13] But First, We Save the Galaxy on 2016-09-16 (046 months). Next Episode: not yet scheduled. http://www.tvmaze.com/shows/1819/dark-matter |
00:03.15 | znf | I'm still wondering what the hell is a Deflector Dish |
00:03.38 | znf | ah, there we go |
00:03.41 | znf | the pretty glowy thing |
00:04.03 | nevcairiel | in star fleet designs the bottom center glowing part |
00:04.21 | nevcairiel | it deflects space debri using a force field |
00:11.56 | Gnarfoz | NX-01 has it at the front of the saucer |
00:13.29 | nevcairiel | the nx01 is mostly just saucer |
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09:40.35 | Fisker | :( Stanzilla |
09:42.21 | Fisker | my start menu is flickering |
09:42.30 | Fisker | and my other monitor won't run 60Hz |
09:42.38 | wink | znf: I don't believe it's shorter than 20h unless you skip all the side quests :P |
09:42.43 | Fisker | Which I guess means Asus are a bunch of liars |
09:43.22 | wink | https://howlongtobeat.com/game.php?id=26802 |
09:43.48 | znf | wink: I normally play on the easiest difficulty |
09:43.57 | wink | I just played the trilogy |
09:43.59 | znf | The story teller thing or what's it called |
09:44.10 | znf | I have no desire for the actual game play |
09:44.10 | wink | the numbers in hltb are spot on for me |
09:44.20 | wink | the fights don't really take long |
09:44.32 | wink | so if andromeda is even close in gameplay.. just saying |
09:44.56 | wink | I played ME3 on normal in the last weeks and didnt really die before the very last fight |
09:45.06 | nevcairiel | 5 people aint exactly a statistically relevant number of people |
09:45.11 | wink | ~29h played with all sidequests (not all achievements) |
09:45.36 | wink | a friend of mine played for >10h already and didnt sound like he was halfway done. |
09:46.05 | wink | I'm still undecided whether to get it |
09:46.18 | wink | btu I don't think it will be <20h :) |
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16:08.26 | Fisker | http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/03/22/google-maps-finally-gets-real-time-location-sharing-including-navigation-routes/ Stanzilla |
16:17.43 | Stanzilla | cool |
16:50.06 | quiescens | o.o |
16:52.32 | Timmeh | has a cookie real time navigate its way to quiescens. |
16:52.49 | quiescens | \o/ |
16:53.08 | Stanzilla | znf: what do you use for irc on your phone |
16:53.46 | Timmeh | I heard Gnarfoz has a loo interface for IRC |
16:54.28 | Stanzilla | he and nev both use quassel so they are out :D |
16:55.00 | Stanzilla | I wanted to use irccloud but I'd pay 4 bucks a month and fuck that |
16:56.19 | quiescens | just don't irc from phone ^^ |
16:58.58 | quiescens | no? ): |
16:59.06 | Stanzilla | choke on a cookie |
16:59.34 | Timmeh | I have weechat running on my server and connect to it using "Weechat Android" using its relay functionality when I need it on my phone |
16:59.38 | Timmeh | in case that helps |
17:01.38 | quiescens | o.o |
17:02.32 | Stanzilla | well that is the quassel/bouncer way, I already have a bouncer running though |
17:02.47 | Timmeh | I don't know what quassel is :-D |
17:02.49 | Stanzilla | so I'd need an android client that was updated in the last two years because reasons and lets me connect to my bouncer |
17:02.56 | Stanzilla | the same in blue |
17:04.20 | Timmeh | but yes, connecting through my weechat instance on my server is basically using it as a bouncer |
17:04.34 | Stanzilla | yeah |
17:05.56 | nevcairiel | why dont you use quasseldroid |
17:07.14 | Stanzilla | can it connect to a non quassel server? |
17:07.27 | nevcairiel | clearly you should be using quassel everywhere! |
17:07.27 | nevcairiel | :D |
17:07.41 | Stanzilla | if the quassel client wasnt so bad on the desktop I would |
17:08.23 | nevcairiel | works fine for me, but i dont need fancy features, in fact, i dislike them |
17:09.29 | Timmeh | I just googled some screenshots - looks pretty basic and simple to me |
17:09.40 | Timmeh | which is why I use weechat as well, really... |
17:09.55 | Timmeh | weechat is quite fancy already, coming from irssi :') |
17:11.01 | quiescens | Timmeh used to just telnet into the irc server port and enter commands directly |
17:11.12 | Timmeh | totally |
17:11.39 | nevcairiel | in theory thats not so hard |
17:11.44 | Timmeh | it really isn't |
17:11.47 | nevcairiel | if you wouldnt have to respond to ping commands all the time |
17:11.47 | Timmeh | the protocol is stupidly simple |
17:12.22 | Megalon | you'd be typing pong all the time :p |
17:12.37 | nevcairiel | back in the old days, say 15 years ago or so, i dabbled with writing a irc bot |
17:12.45 | quiescens | responding to the periodic server ping, and doing privmsg #wowace for every message o.o |
17:12.46 | nevcairiel | never really got finished, but was fun to write the protocol |
17:13.57 | Megalon | i did the same once, but with an online game instead of irc, was fun |
17:14.00 | Megalon | ;7 |
17:14.11 | quiescens | reported |
17:14.32 | Megalon | it was Pirates! but online haha, reall ynice game |
17:14.36 | nevcairiel | i wrote my share of helper tools for a variety of games |
17:14.45 | Megalon | was fun to find all the stuff they forget to check etc |
17:15.01 | Megalon | like the stats of your crew was client side |
17:15.06 | Megalon | i vroom around with 500knots |
17:15.08 | nevcairiel | i also removed my share fo CD checks from some games, back when this was still super easy =p |
17:15.52 | Megalon | i actually wrote that whole stuff in mIRC using it's scripting language haha |
17:16.02 | nevcairiel | now thats just sad |
17:16.10 | Megalon | :D |
17:16.13 | nevcairiel | i actually never worked with that beyond some super simple oneliners |
17:16.30 | quiescens | the only thingy i did was remove ridiculous words from particularly terrible language filters |
17:16.35 | quiescens | o.o |
17:17.02 | quiescens | like games that had assassin as a class but would prevent you from typing it because it would mean your message had the word ass in it |
17:17.40 | quiescens | it was like, how useless does your filter have to be o.o |
17:17.43 | Megalon | haha, world of pirates it was called i think |
17:19.12 | Timmeh | mIRC, hah, loooong time ago I used that client |
17:19.37 | Timmeh | I remember scripting all kinds of weird shit for mIRC as well... |
17:19.53 | Megalon | well guess i at least showed the developers that client data is evil |
17:19.54 | Megalon | ;o |
17:20.46 | Timmeh | yes, that'll teach them! :-P |
17:20.49 | Timmeh | never trust user data! |
17:21.18 | Megalon | like when you left a city the client just sent a packet "spawn me at x,y" |
17:21.21 | Megalon | so i had teleport |
17:21.22 | Megalon | :< |
17:21.28 | quiescens | hax |
17:22.00 | Megalon | well, it started without the proxy to inject stuff |
17:22.51 | Megalon | by withdrawing -1 million gold in the bank, then leave city, get your ship sunk so you lose the -1M on your guy |
17:23.00 | Megalon | swim back to city and get the 1M from the bank :P |
17:23.36 | Timmeh | I won my parents a year long free dog food for their (well, I guess at that time "our") dog once, thanks to some voting mechanism that only relied on a Cookie to be set to indicate that you already voted T_T |
17:24.50 | Timmeh | fun thing is that, because of the number of votes on the other dogs, I'm 100% sure I wasn't the only one doing that :-P |
17:25.33 | Megalon | :D |
17:25.47 | Megalon | it's a hard knock life, manipulating votes |
17:25.55 | Timmeh | I know right |
17:26.23 | Timmeh | if you don't watch out, you might accidentally vote some kind of idiot into the office of president |
17:26.27 | Timmeh | oh wait |
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17:28.21 | quiescens | o.o |
17:47.07 | Stanzilla | https://sameroom.io/pricing |
17:47.09 | Stanzilla | what the fuck |
17:47.41 | Megalon | rooms, tubes, public |
17:47.44 | Megalon | wtf is this fetish shit |
17:49.53 | nevcairiel | that is way too expensive |
17:50.08 | Megalon | 5k, schnäppsche |
17:56.52 | Stanzilla | yeah |
18:07.08 | Timmeh | tubes? |
18:07.11 | Timmeh | do they get clogged? |
18:07.13 | Timmeh | o.o |
18:07.15 | Timmeh | wth |
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18:23.46 | Gnarfoz | just had to kill Chrome because a Wowhead tab was using 7.9 GB RAM |
18:23.57 | Gnarfoz | and that's with Premium and ublock |
18:24.09 | Timmeh | Premium RAM usage |
18:24.10 | Gnarfoz | (sounds more like a Chrome issue tbh, but that's one hell of a coincidence) |
18:24.28 | Timmeh | I bet it's LastPass' fault! |
18:24.29 | Fisker | Might have to install radarr Stanzilla :< |
18:25.22 | Megalon | seems like a malware wanted to install it's own os *foz |
18:26.11 | Semlar | how long was the tab open |
18:31.46 | Gnarfoz | 2 minutes? I had just restarted Chrome for an update |
18:32.13 | Semlar | that is fairly impressive then |
18:38.59 | znf | Stanzilla: IRC cloud |
18:44.06 | Stanzilla | znf: do you pay for it? |
18:44.15 | znf | Yeah |
18:44.54 | znf | $5 here or $5 for a quassel host on a digital ocean droplet. Same shit, I guess |
18:45.02 | znf | But I don't have to do it manually |
18:45.50 | znf | Tough to be fair, I also run a znc on another instance, to which I connect irccloud to |
18:46.22 | Stanzilla | you can only do that on the paid tier though |
18:46.26 | Stanzilla | because that was actually my plan |
18:46.43 | znf | And I connect hexchat to that so I don't have to change irc client on desktop |
18:46.56 | znf | Hmm? Do they have new restrictions? |
18:47.45 | Timmeh | just trying to understand - if you run a znc instance, why would you need another service inbetween to connect to? you can just use any random IRC client out there to connect to your znc instance, right? |
18:49.03 | znf | Timmeh: because there is no other good irc client on mobile other than irccloud |
18:49.13 | znf | At least they weren't 2 years ago |
18:49.25 | Timmeh | ah ok |
18:49.33 | Timmeh | that's valid |
18:49.44 | znf | All the ones I tried sucked balls |
18:50.06 | Timmeh | I guess I only need it occassionally, so I'm fine with the simple setup I mentioned earlier |
18:50.17 | Timmeh | but I can see how you'd want a bit more |
18:50.17 | znf | *probably* the Quassar one is decent |
18:50.48 | znf | But when you look at the fact that only the f-droid version is properly updated (as Gnarfoz said) |
18:51.11 | znf | And the play one isn't... You can get a big picture of the irc landscape on mobile |
18:51.28 | znf | And if you're on ios you're without alternatives |
18:53.12 | Timmeh | what are the things that make irccloud better? stuff like notifications or something? battery drain perhaps? |
18:54.11 | znf | Push notifications, running in background properly |
18:54.43 | znf | Has a buffer system (tough znc has it too) that displays only the last X messages |
18:55.07 | znf | But mostly the push notifications and the fact that it doesn't need to keep a server connection 24/7 |
18:55.28 | znf | Where other clients simply need a connection all around |
18:55.54 | znf | When you swap networka (WiFi to cell for example), you get disconnected on traditional clients |
18:56.10 | znf | Sometimes even when changing cell towers |
18:56.24 | Timmeh | yea, right, it's actually thought about how to implement the mobile aspect of connections in an IRC client |
18:56.26 | Timmeh | while most don't |
18:56.29 | Timmeh | makes sense |
18:56.42 | znf | Or going trough a low signal area |
18:56.57 | Gnarfoz | irccloud is basically a slack frontend for IRC of your choice |
18:57.05 | Gnarfoz | because the client doesn't speak IRC |
18:57.13 | znf | I haven't tried quassel tough so I'm not sure how the mobile app works |
18:57.19 | Gnarfoz | (neither does the Quassel one, but its protocol is not mobile friendly, either) |
18:57.23 | Gnarfoz | it needs a connection |
18:57.44 | Gnarfoz | and uses a persistent notification to not get disconnected because Android decices its time for it to go to sleep |
18:57.50 | Gnarfoz | so, not great in that regard |
18:58.03 | znf | Ah, so I guess it's still that way |
18:58.10 | Gnarfoz | but I only use it on mobile every once in a while, so that's no problem for me. not suited for permanent connectivity, though |
18:58.28 | Timmeh | yea, similar way that I use it then |
18:58.45 | znf | The only thing I wish irccloud had was a Bouncer-mode |
18:58.45 | Timmeh | but yea, I can see why that's far from ideal for basically permanent usage |
18:58.47 | znf | So I can connecty hexchat to it |
18:59.01 | znf | But I solved it my way |
18:59.26 | znf | They do have some desktop client |
18:59.36 | znf | But afaik it's just a wrapper for their website |
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19:01.18 | znf | Also the mobile client has some pretty nice features like an in-line image viewer |
19:01.27 | znf | Docs/photo upload |
19:03.25 | znf | (also video, but someone tought to put a 25mb limit which makes it useless) |
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19:36.57 | Fisker | rip me Stanzilla |
19:49.59 | Stanzilla | rip u |
19:50.25 | Stanzilla | Timmeh: yeah the problem is only mobile |
19:50.40 | Stanzilla | znf: and yes, I checked, my znc has a password/user and it does only support that on a paid tier |
19:51.25 | znf | ah, yes, forgot the password restriction |
19:51.35 | znf | tough you can do that in perform |
19:51.42 | znf | I remember I was doing that |
19:52.47 | znf | or does the perform not work either now? |
19:53.09 | znf | also, I remember that if you added a password server while in trial mode, the password would stick around |
19:55.31 | Gnarfoz | AvD - Automobilclub von Deutschland |
19:55.35 | Gnarfoz | that sounds so terrible |
19:55.49 | Stanzilla | my trial is already over and I havent tried perform because I dont think it will work |
20:04.29 | znf | Stanzilla, znc takes password in /perform, too |
20:04.35 | znf | and I'm sure it works, unless they changed stuff |
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20:05.25 | Stanzilla | http://wiki.znc.in/Perform |
20:05.28 | Stanzilla | doesnt look like it |
20:07.51 | Stanzilla | also you cant run /perform before being logged in |
20:08.54 | znf | uhm, dude |
20:09.01 | znf | the perform section of irccloud |
20:09.29 | Stanzilla | oh |
20:09.31 | Stanzilla | dunno |
20:09.38 | znf | Commands to run on connect â one per line, e.g. for opering up on connect. |
20:09.45 | znf | click the advanced crap |
20:10.31 | znf | if you don't pass a password in the connect command, znc asks for a password |
20:10.48 | Stanzilla | whats the syntax for that |
20:11.51 | znf | * *** You need to send your password. Configure your client to send a server password. |
20:11.52 | znf | * *** To connect now, you can use /quote PASS <username>:<password>, or /quote PASS <username>/<network>:<password> to connect to a specific network. |
20:12.04 | znf | so: |
20:12.08 | znf | PASS user:pass |
20:12.09 | znf | or |
20:12.14 | znf | PASS user/network:pass |
20:12.41 | Stanzilla | Failed to connect: Connection refused |
20:13.04 | znf | so set the correct hostname and port...?! |
20:14.28 | Stanzilla | they are set |
20:15.00 | Stanzilla | ah |
20:15.02 | Stanzilla | typoed |
20:15.08 | Timmeh | good job :-P |
20:15.30 | Stanzilla | I still get the same message as you, znf |
20:15.57 | znf | screenshot and blank the password |
20:16.19 | Stanzilla | https://i.imgur.com/a9uhU7d.png |
20:16.25 | znf | ... |
20:16.31 | znf | remove "/quote pass" |
20:16.35 | znf | [22:12:11] <znf> PASS user:pass |
20:16.35 | znf | [22:12:12] <znf> or |
20:16.35 | znf | [22:12:17] <znf> PASS user/network:pass |
20:16.42 | Stanzilla | OK |
20:16.42 | znf | so just do |
20:16.47 | znf | PASS Stan/freenode:znf |
20:16.55 | Stanzilla | yeah i got that :D |
20:17.10 | Timmeh | OMGOD HIS PASSWORD IS znf |
20:17.14 | Timmeh | WAOW |
20:17.19 | Stanzilla | still says password required though |
20:17.58 | Timmeh | maybe you need to have it enabled in the znf settings to allow authentication like this |
20:18.04 | Timmeh | waow |
20:18.07 | Timmeh | znf settings.. |
20:18.09 | Timmeh | znc settings* |
20:18.17 | Timmeh | znf: look what you're doing to me :-( |
20:18.23 | znf | you tried reconnecting? |
20:18.33 | Stanzilla | yes |
20:18.52 | znf | how does the server dialogue looks like now? |
20:19.08 | Stanzilla | https://i.imgur.com/5MwixsL.png |
20:19.10 | znf | do you get error messages? |
20:19.18 | Stanzilla | <PROTECTED> |
20:19.18 | Stanzilla | 9:18 PM *** To connect now, you can use /quote PASS <username>:<password>, or /quote PASS <username>/<network>:<password> to connect to a specific network. |
20:19.49 | Stanzilla | it works if I enter that manually |
20:20.09 | Stanzilla | so either they blocked that because SMRT |
20:20.10 | Stanzilla | or dunno |
20:20.31 | Timmeh | maybe try "WAIT 2" on the first line and then "PASS Stan/freenode:znf" perhaps it's sending it too quickly - can you see in the log when the auto commands are sent? |
20:21.44 | Stanzilla | nop |
20:22.07 | Timmeh | then perhaps they are smart indeed, but I have a feeling znf will try it in his own irccloud :-P |
20:22.16 | Stanzilla | yes :D |
20:22.33 | znf | but I pay for premium... |
20:22.41 | Timmeh | oh |
20:22.48 | Gnarfoz | sounds terrible, over all |
20:22.58 | znf | like I said, it used to work |
20:22.59 | Stanzilla | not at all |
20:23.03 | Gnarfoz | doesn't znc do SASL so you can make IRCcloud send a server password |
20:23.09 | Stanzilla | I'm just trying to circumvent their paywall |
20:23.11 | Gnarfoz | instead of doing mIRC-like crap :D |
20:23.20 | Stanzilla | I'm just trying to circumvent their paywall << |
20:23.22 | Gnarfoz | like freenode does for services login |
20:23.34 | Timmeh | Gnarfoz: you need to pay to use that |
20:23.35 | znf | well, you can pass a server password |
20:23.36 | znf | but $$ |
20:23.42 | Gnarfoz | well |
20:23.48 | Gnarfoz | get fucked |
20:23.55 | Gnarfoz | :D |
20:24.50 | Timmeh | Stanzilla: what about `QUOTE PASS Stan/freenode:znf` |
20:24.53 | znf | I have $93 in credit on Digital ocaen :D |
20:24.59 | Timmeh | Stanzilla: as in, what you did before, without the leading / |
20:25.01 | znf | \o/ |
20:25.20 | Stanzilla | Timmeh: nope |
20:25.29 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/cnBTzfz.png |
20:25.35 | Stanzilla | I think it only runs that after the connection is established |
20:26.00 | Timmeh | that's fine, isn't it? you can connect - you just need to send the raw PASS command afterwards |
20:26.03 | znf | Stanzilla, technically the connection is established |
20:26.13 | Timmeh | 'xactly |
20:26.20 | Stanzilla | it says "handshaking" |
20:26.24 | Stanzilla | and that is not done |
20:26.33 | znf | meh, no ieda what they changed |
20:26.38 | znf | I just give them their $5 |
20:26.46 | Stanzilla | I can just enter that line manually.. |
20:27.06 | znf | yeah, but it disconnects you after 2 hours of inactivity |
20:27.07 | Timmeh | when it says "to connect now, you can use /quote PASS" you already have established a connection, since you're sending IRC commands |
20:27.10 | znf | that's why it's annoying |
20:31.33 | Timmeh | judging from this: https://blog.irccloud.com/jan-2013-recent-improvements/#commands_to_run_on_connect |
20:31.50 | Timmeh | you should use `/quote PASS Stan/freenode:znf` |
20:32.01 | Timmeh | (with leading /) |
20:34.06 | Stanzilla | hrm |
20:35.44 | Stanzilla | nop |
20:35.49 | Timmeh | maybe it just hates you |
20:37.38 | znf | I'm pretty sure it used to work with RAW commands |
20:37.39 | znf | weird |
20:38.11 | Timmeh | try /raw instead of /quote :-P |
20:38.32 | Timmeh | or a WAIT 2 instead of the /raw or /quote, again in case it sends it before znc decides to accept it, or something |
20:38.36 | Megalon | or /bareback |
20:38.53 | Timmeh | or /bristleback |
20:39.07 | Phixion | $5 for autosendcmd and cloud based irc, I should start a business |
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20:41.09 | Stanzilla | double nope |
20:41.43 | Megalon | /viscousnasalgoos Timmeh |
20:42.58 | Gnarfoz | Phixion: that's what they thought as well |
20:44.24 | Timmeh | uses /blackkingbar |
20:44.32 | Timmeh | uses /blademail |
20:44.38 | Timmeh | /calls Megalon |
20:44.56 | Timmeh | I guess that should be /berserkercalls Megalon |
20:46.05 | Timmeh | that's actually a hard choice... attack Bristleback in the back, or face his nose while you know what just came out of it... |
20:47.32 | Megalon | /quillsprays ferociously |
20:54.56 | Stanzilla | https://www.irccloud.com/faq#faq-znc |
20:55.07 | Fisker | Gonna take a million years to fix my nas Stanzilla D: |
20:58.27 | Stanzilla | what did you break |
20:59.12 | Fisker | Nothing |
20:59.37 | Fisker | Just need to fix some things because of corral |
21:00.01 | Fisker | Migrating my data and it's taking ages |
21:04.57 | Stanzilla | I see |
21:07.34 | Fisker | Think I'm gonna have to use radarr :< |
21:08.01 | Fisker | CouchPotato didn't do the best job earlier |
21:27.54 | znf | did I disconnect earlier? |
21:28.03 | Stanzilla | no |
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21:28.55 | znf | weird |
21:34.48 | znf | Stanzilla, I'm having a weird issue on my laptop with chrome |
21:35.02 | znf | all alert popups from chrome are hidden |
21:35.03 | Stanzilla | nice |
21:35.19 | Stanzilla | havent heard of that before |
21:35.34 | Stanzilla | did you set the default for notifications to "block" |
21:35.38 | Stanzilla | or do you mean alert() from js |
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22:08.50 | znf | dear Digital Ocean, I don't mind the fact that you're doing a network maintenanec, but why the fuck do you power off my droplet |
22:10.23 | Fisker | I don't think they're here |
22:10.40 | znf | Fisker, I have faith that you can relay my message |
22:10.42 | znf | thanks |
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